MotherBoard issues (dell)

[shoman24v]

I have a dell 8300, I changed out the the CPU heatsink with the OCZ elimnator. I accidently turned on the computer with the fan not plugged in, now most of the time when I start up the computer it says "Alert Previous Fan Error. Strike the F1 key to continue or hit F2 to enter setup" How do I get it to stop saying this?

Thanks

[Slayerstaps]

Haha, my brothers 8300 also does that :D
That's because i accidently killed the fan connector...
Just ignore it and push F1 not that big of a prob now is it???

[wazzledoozle]

Clear your cmos

[Slayerstaps]

No that doesn't work dude :)
it's something with the dell mobo if it doesn't find a cpu fan connected at the 3 pin connection it posts that fan failure message.....and i messed up the fan connection on my borthers dell mobo so it posts it all the time :D

[shoman24v]

i do have a fan connected at the connector, i cut the oem one and soldered it to my ocz..

[Slayerstaps]

U kno dell sucks they prolly made it that only with the original fan u won't get that error....
As soon as u get that error you can't get rid of it...(ofcourse u can by putting back the original fan :))

[ReconCX]

Ahh.. i hate getting a dell. Any retail computer I get my hands on usually leaves my hands with only the motherboard and CPU original but dells are the worst to upgrade and modify. Have you checked the BIOS to turn off the warning messages? I remember a long time ago there were options like that such as open case etc. Maybe there's one for the fan as well?

A note on the side as a possible warning to some of you people out there.
Never try installing a Nvidia card that needs more than their weak 250W tops PSU. In fact, don't buy a nvidia card if you use a dell cause dell uses propriatary psu's. They look EXACTLY the same as the standard PSU but the wires are swapped around. You can easily short circuit your MOBO. I had the luck of only getting a high-pitched whine from the PSU.

[shoman24v]

dells are pretty upgradeable......... the only thing on it thats "dell" is the motherboard, my ps is 300w max, it orignally came with an ATI 9800 pro, i put in an x800, as for expandablity they are great, at least the new ones are. :)

[Slayerstaps]

But u can't replace the mobo in a dell comp..cause dell made the mobo and it needs power from a kind of modded atx connector...The dell power supply has that kind of "special" connector..So you can't use a dell psu on any other mobo and you can't use any other psu with the dell mobo...one of those things will die for sure...

[shoman24v]

But u can't replace the mobo in a dell comp..cause dell made the mobo and it needs power from a kind of modded atx connector...The dell power supply has that kind of "special" connector..So you can't use a dell psu on any other mobo and you can't use any other psu with the dell mobo...one of those things will die for sure...

Whats so special about it, it has the two connectors, the small one with 4 prongs and that large one

[ReconCX]

It looks exactly the same except there's a small tab about the a mm in height. It doesn't actually help prevent you from pluging it in on another board cause it's plastic and so flimsy and small. Otherwise, it LOOKS exactly the same. But the wires of the PSU are all in different positions and switched, flipped, and otherwise unusable in another computer. Bring in a standard PSU to a dell and you risk frying them both as well. Again, I was lucky, I just got a high pitched whine.

[shoman24v]

Do you have a dell?? what series?

[Slayerstaps]

Whats so special about it, it has the two connectors, the small one with 4 prongs and that large one

compare the dell atx plug with a normal one...you'll see that the pin lay out doesn't match...
(i also have a dell i have a dimension 8300 besides this comp)

[shoman24v]

I was looking to upgrade to the Asus P4C800E Deluxe, Will I have to buy a new PS?

[ReconCX]

Either that or you buy that dell PSU converter, but that thing costs like $15 and is not guaranteed to work ntm dell PSU's are pretty weak so you're better off just buying a new PSU. I got a Allied 400W PSU for $30 on Newegg.com

[SunShineBurns14]

"Alert Previous Fan Error. Strike the F1 key to continue or hit F2 to enter setup" How do I get it to stop saying this?

I have a DELL 2400. I took the fan out, cleaned it up. And put it right back. Every thing as it was. Nothing has been changed. Same fan, same connection.

Yet I can't get rid of this error.

Any suggestions?

Suzi :o

[ndgoh]

Possible to disable the fan monitoring thru BIOS? :p

[mikedjr]

I have a Dimmension 4300 case with a no name 300w ps in it that I pulled from my previous home-brew pc. I bought a Dimmension 4550 mother board off of ebay, plugged the power supply into it and it works fine, no problems what so ever, nada.....

I also run an Nvidia Geforce 2MX 400 that I added a fan too, and I have 2 case fans, and my hard disk cooler running off of the 300w and everything works fine! I don't know what the deal is with your dell that the ps plug is different but obviously mine is standard. I also upgraded to a 3.06 Ghz p4, it came standard with a 2.0ghz... runs great, so upgradability is fine with the dell systems....

The problem I have is the same fan error as mentioned. I never had the original Dell fan, I thought that the first fan I had had a bad speed sensor in it and that was causing the error, but I replaced the fan and heatsink with a genuine known good intel one and still have the error.

As far as I know there is no way to turn off the fan monitoring. My suspicion is that Dell programmed in a specific speed range for the LARGE diameter fan they used standard, which runs at a SLOWER speed than any other standard heatsink mounted fan would, thus what I think is hapopening is that the speed of the replacement fan is out of the range of the MOBO's programming so it thinks there's a problem. Which means unless you want to use the inferior dell rear mounted fan with that stupid duct thing to pull air across the heatsink, you're just going to have to deal with the error.

I'm going to just build another system soon, this is agravating to have to deal with on every start-up!

-Mike-

[Polaris573]

Whats so special about it, it has the two connectors, the small one with 4 prongs and that large one

Maybe the actual wires are arranged differently.

[Jewfromdahood]

why can't the american public get it! Dell's are pieces of junk. the average lifespan is 6 months if you're lucky. HP workstations and IBM Desktops and Notebooks are the best. Because Corporate computers have to be better than consumers because if 1 or 2 consumer customers are lost no big deal, if they lose one or two corporate companies they can lose millions to billions of $$$. IBM invented the PC, NO JOKE! I have an HP workstation (see below) let me tell you it kicks any of my friends Dell's ass in both price, reliability and in performance by a long run. Because HP workstations come standard with performance tuned OS registry's, drivers and many more things. for my computer cost me $3000 (not counting monitor, soundcard and the X850XTPE, it came with a FireGL 3100 (a FireGL 7100 can whoop an X850XTPE's ass)

[Polaris573]

I'm so sick of my dell, my only option to try and keep it cool is take the side panel off. At least that way convection will sort of cool it.

[Solaris17]

well i dont like dells...first...but i dont mind the newer ones so much...second in my personal opinion the ONLY prefab comps i would buy from like a computer retailer like best buy would be sony's they make the best prefabs i think....and the prefabs i HATE the most will NEVER even touch anotherone...gateway...eh..i said it :eek: :mad:

[Robomania]

why can't the american public get it! Dell's are pieces of junk. the average lifespan is 6 months if you're lucky. HP workstations and IBM Desktops and Notebooks are the best. Because Corporate computers have to be better than consumers because if 1 or 2 consumer customers are lost no big deal, if they lose one or two corporate companies they can lose millions to billions of $$$. IBM invented the PC, NO JOKE! I have an HP workstation (see below) let me tell you it kicks any of my friends Dell's ass in both price, reliability and in performance by a long run. Because HP workstations come standard with performance tuned OS registry's, drivers and many more things. for my computer cost me $3000 (not counting monitor, soundcard and the X850XTPE, it came with a FireGL 3100 (a FireGL 7100 can whoop an X850XTPE's ass)

I have a Dell Dimension 8200, 1.7 Ghz Pentium 4 computer that has lasted for four years and is still going. They are not pieces of junk. By the way, I am planning to upgrade my motherboard to an 8300. Will my 1.7 ghz P4 still work in the 8300 motherboard?

[toddboyle]

The poster above is real high on HP computers but I have found them absolutely maddening, over the years. Example, last month I installed a replacement motherboard in a pavilion 8662c case. When I tried to powerup, the PS died. Bought another PS. Tried to powerup. This time the PS exploded into violent flames and smoke! Boom, crackle... the surges even destroyed the powersupply in my other computer plugged into the same power strip.

I won't bore you with all the details but finally found there is a metal tab, fabricated as part of the backplane of the case, which sticks up alongside the motherboard, almost as if designed to kill any replacement motherboard. The edge of the motherboard comes into direct contact, a direct short of the 6 or 7 layers of copper in the motherboard, about half an inch wide.

The environmental and economic waste from this kind of behavior, all the proprietary things, is so widespread in the economy it's a real wonder that there hasn't emerged a body of law to deal with it. Think about automobiiles-- and all consumer electronics.

It's not that complicated, it would be easier to legislate an end to this, than clean air, or antitrust.

Todd

[AshenSugar]

dell sux, its just a fact, they buy the cheapest stuff they can get then sell it for a good/great profit, they offer crapp upgrades for to much$, and god those dells with costom psu's, dont get me started.

Robomania: if the case will take a normal motherboard and psu just grab a board/chip from newegg, u can get a 3400+ athlon64 with a free board for 99bucks(the nf3 boards pretty good from my exp and what i have seen on forums very few complaints)

home dell computers do have an avrage lifespan lower then other companys, the thing is dell gets people to buy a warr package then there reps convence alot of users to upgrade with dell when they come out to fix something that shouldnt have broken.

u know who makes dells motherboards?
PCCHIPS the value value side of ECS, and they are made even cheaper then the worst ecs boards in my exp, i have seen corp comps that had blown/bulged/leeking caps allover the boards, these are DELL corp systems, never would u see that from hp,ibm,micron(best "costom" pc's u can get that are intel based) hell even packared bell had better hardware then dell, and thats sad :P

if ur looking to upgrade a dell the way u do that is you gut it, sell the parts on ebay and replace them with parts from newegg, that or just sell the whole system to somebody and buy the parts to build one/have one built.

and why would anybody want to use/re-use a p4? .........ewwww......just.....ewww