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Devil_Inside
10-06-2006, 05:22 PM
WOW that is impressive! I guess I am doing something wrong again :cry:

Let me ask you something...is it better to use ATI tools instead of TRIXX that I got on the CD with my VGA? My other question is wich one is a reliable program to monitor the temperature of the GPU? Thanks

Dolf, could you explain how to do that thing with the BIOS that you mentioned? How to replace the BIOS once I have successfully overclocked the VGA?

dolf
10-06-2006, 10:23 PM
WOW that is impressive! I guess I am doing something wrong again :cry:

Let me ask you something...is it better to use ATI tools instead of TRIXX that I got on the CD with my VGA? My other question is wich one is a reliable program to monitor the temperature of the GPU? Thanks

Dolf, could you explain how to do that thing with the BIOS that you mentioned? How to replace the BIOS once I have successfully overclocked the VGA?


Use both utilities (to see whether the results will be comparable).

You can do "that thing" like that:
1. Save the original BIOS with ATITool
2. Use RaBit 1.7 or newer to open the BIOS
3. Change the clocks as desired (save the new BIOS typing xxxx.bin name) it will be saved like .bin (if you just mame the BIOS with xxxx and press "save" it will be .rom) - you can use both (rom and bin) files
4. Prepare bootable floppy disk and copy on it: atiflash, the original BIOS and the custom BIOSes (all the bios names should be not longer than 8 symbols)
5. Boot from the floppy and use the following command line:

atiflash -f -p 0 biosname.bin (or .rom) - press "enter"........wait; remove the floppy disk; restart

Done

wilmur
10-08-2006, 04:51 AM
I got a Saphire Radeon X800 GTO 256 AGP from Egghead last week. Great card, I,m impressed with it already. R480 core and samsung 1.6 memory. It ran pretty hot so I upgraded to a zalman zf900 now thats under control. Also upgraded the psu. Antec 500 wattwith 17 amps on 12v-1 and 18 on 12v-2. It oc's smoothly with the core at 570 and the mem at 600 according to atitool. But can I get 16 pipes?

I am going to try to insert images of atitool fuses since it seems to hold the key. Thanks in advance.

wilmur
10-08-2006, 04:59 AM
http://www.citlink.net/~wmurray/atitool-1.jpg

http://www.citlink.net/~wmurray/atitool-2.jpg

http://www.citlink.net/~wmurray/atitool-3.jpg

hope this works

dolf
10-08-2006, 01:07 PM
http://www.citlink.net/~wmurray/atitool-1.jpg

http://www.citlink.net/~wmurray/atitool-2.jpg

http://www.citlink.net/~wmurray/atitool-3.jpg

hope this works

Yes you can unlock to 16 pipes :D . Try with that utility but first save the original BIOS just in case. Also attach here your BIOS and tell me red or blue is yor card.

Download link: http://www.savefile.com/projects/733218

wilmur
10-08-2006, 03:50 PM
I am attaching a copy of my original bios file. Also my card is blue color. many thanks.

wilmur
10-08-2006, 05:05 PM
way cool. it worked like magic. in 1 week I went from 54 fps with my 128mb gforce fx5200 to a stock saphire 256mb x800 gto @ 800 fps and now with 16 pipes and modest 520-540 overclocking i see 1500+ fps. all I can say is WOW. kudos to DOLF.

Motivator
10-08-2006, 07:53 PM
wanted to check and see what my deal is. Everything is correct as per the ATI tool info, and the RaBiT info, just need to check the P/N. So long as it's all good, which bios do i take for the unlock?

-edit-

just checked the p/n. I'm good to go

also, not sure, but how do i check the realto? was that included in the pdf?

Devil_Inside
10-09-2006, 02:52 PM
I got a Saphire Radeon X800 GTO 256 AGP from Egghead last week. Great card, I,m impressed with it already. R480 core and samsung 1.6 memory. It ran pretty hot so I upgraded to a zalman zf900 now thats under control. Also upgraded the psu. Antec 500 wattwith 17 amps on 12v-1 and 18 on 12v-2. It oc's smoothly with the core at 570 and the mem at 600 according to atitool. But can I get 16 pipes?

I am going to try to insert images of atitool fuses since it seems to hold the key. Thanks in advance.

Could you please send me a link to this card? I bought one from Newegg few days ago and I can't unlock the pipes, so I plan to return it. Could you send me the link to the one you bought? Thanks a lot!

wilmur
10-09-2006, 08:11 PM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102042

not sure how url's work in this forum but this ought to get you to it or go to egghead and cut and paste the next line into their search

14-102-042 VGA SAPPHIRE X800 GTO 100131L BLUE

Devil_Inside
10-09-2006, 08:45 PM
I just bought this one from Newegg - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102609 ...and it has the 480 core but it doesn't overclock that good (the best I could do was 587/493) and I cannot unlock the additional pipes...I will try to exchange it for the one you bought and I hope I will be able to do it this time :cry:


P.S What is the difference between the red one and the blue one? :banghead:

BodySnatcher
10-11-2006, 06:08 AM
I just bought a BLUE one from the egg. Fired up ATItool ...bam 16 pipes stock. Haven't overclocked it ...yet.

dolf
10-11-2006, 07:49 AM
I just bought a BLUE one from the egg. Fired up ATItool ...bam 16 pipes stock. Haven't overclocked it ...yet.

It should be with R480 :D ehh...

BodySnatcher
10-11-2006, 06:03 PM
It should be with R480 :D ehh...

That was the surprise, it is reporting as a R430 !?! Soooo... Sapphire, the egg, or ATI, or something is unlocking the pipes as a stock offering.

Scores in 3Dmark03 like a stock X800XL.

Tried a mild overclock of 5% last night on the core and memory with no problems.

I'm going to let it burn in for a couple of weeks before I push it. Then I'll slap the big cooler from my dead 9800pro modded to a 9800XT on it and get it settled in for the holiday gaming season.

Giskard
10-14-2006, 01:39 AM
I just got the blue pcb AGP slot X800 GTO from newegg.

Shows as a 430 chip

16 pipes enabled by default.

Overclock attempt on ATI tools, monitor turned off at about 436 core. Had to power system off to get it to restart.

It runs rather hot.. running the rotating cube on ATI tools leads it to hit 78 degrees.

My guess is that the stock heatsink/fan is crappy.

Has 1.6ns memory.

dolf
10-14-2006, 10:53 AM
I just got the blue pcb AGP slot X800 GTO from newegg.

Shows as a 430 chip

16 pipes enabled by default.

Overclock attempt on ATI tools, monitor turned off at about 436 core. Had to power system off to get it to restart.

It runs rather hot.. running the rotating cube on ATI tools leads it to hit 78 degrees.

My guess is that the stock heatsink/fan is crappy.

Has 1.6ns memory.

It should be R430 with that poor overclock :mad: .

Angelz0fwar
10-14-2006, 10:58 AM
i have a radeon x300 in a computer that cost me out my arse, in my game last yr it was dynamite, now its issues! is it the game? the company who made it for being a cheap arse on it or my card>? some1 please give me info!:confused:

Giskard
10-14-2006, 03:57 PM
It should be R430 with that poor overclock :mad: .

Dolf, should I keep the X800 GTO with the R430 core? or keep my AIW X800 XT vid card which overclocks better for the core?

dolf
10-14-2006, 11:43 PM
Dolf, should I keep the X800 GTO with the R430 core? or keep my AIW X800 XT vid card which overclocks better for the core?

I would keep X800XT AIW ;) .

Giskard
10-15-2006, 02:12 AM
I would keep X800XT AIW ;) .

Its settled then.

Thanks for the help and advise :D

speedy11131
10-15-2006, 11:30 AM
Hello, I bought a Sapphire X800GTO from newegg a few months ago. I am wondering if I can flash my BIOS to 16 pipes.

Here are my fuses:

http://img.techpowerup.org/061015/speedy11131X800GTO.png



If it is possible to unlock my card, what chances do I have of getting artifacts?
BTW: I have a 420W power supply.

Here is the dump from my videocard BIOS...

dolf
10-15-2006, 12:00 PM
Hello, I bought a Sapphire X800GTO from newegg a few months ago. I am wondering if I can flash my BIOS to 16 pipes.

Here are my fuses:

http://img.techpowerup.org/061015/speedy11131X800GTO.png



If it is possible to unlock my card, what chances do I have of getting artifacts?
BTW: I have a 420W power supply.

Here is the dump from my videocard BIOS...

Yes it is possible to unlock and you will unlock :D . The chance to get artifacts is less than 10% (my personal opinion) - don't worry about because the process can be reversed.

Use the automated flash utility from here: http://www.savefile.com/projects/971168

Success

speedy11131
10-15-2006, 12:06 PM
Yes it is possible to unlock and you will unlock :D . The chance to get artifacts is less than 10% (my personal opinion) - don't worry about because the process can be reversed.

Use the automated flash utility from here: http://www.savefile.com/projects/971168

Success

Thanks for the fast reply!!

Just one more question.

Does it matter which one of these I use?
Just wanted to make sure.

Automated Flash Utility X800GTO AGP (R430)&Realto
Bootable CD image (.iso)
(Filetype: zip, 0.82MB)
Automated Flash Utility X800 AGP R430&Realto_ver.1
Bootable CD image (.iso)
(Filetype: zip, 0.8MB)
Automated Flash Utility X800 AGP R430&Realto_ver.2

Again thanks for the fast help!

dolf
10-15-2006, 08:44 PM
Automated Flash Utility X800GTO AGP (R430)&Realto Bootable CD image (.iso)
(Filetype: zip, 0.82MB) ;)

speedy11131
10-15-2006, 10:33 PM
Automated Flash Utility X800GTO AGP (R430)&Realto Bootable CD image (.iso)
(Filetype: zip, 0.82MB) ;)

Thank you for the wonderful Boot CD!! :respect: I have now successfully flashed my X800GTO to 16 pipes!! :toast:

Pic for proof.

http://img.techpowerup.org/061015/speedy11131X800GTOAFTERUNLOCK.png

dolf
10-16-2006, 07:38 AM
speedy11131 use ATITool to overclock it (find max. core/memory) and tell us what are your maximum overclock with 16 pipes.

devram
10-17-2006, 11:52 AM
Hi,

Im just hoping someone can point me in the right direction, as to what files to use to flash my x800GTO.

Core is R430, not sure about what brand it is, anything i can use to see who made it?

memory is: Samsung K4J55323QF-GC20 8MX32 DDR3 500MHz uBGA 144 M28

Fuses seem to be right with the F where its supposed to be.


thanks

dolf
10-17-2006, 05:41 PM
Hi,

Im just hoping someone can point me in the right direction, as to what files to use to flash my x800GTO.

Core is R430, not sure about what brand it is, anything i can use to see who made it?

memory is: Samsung K4J55323QF-GC20 8MX32 DDR3 500MHz uBGA 144 M28

Fuses seem to be right with the F where its supposed to be.


thanks


It is VIVO BIOS. That's why (I don't know what card you have AGP or PCI-E) flash it with just moded to 16 pipes BIOS.
Use atiflash in DOS mode with the following command line:

atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 x80gto16.bin

devram
10-17-2006, 09:18 PM
It's an agp card, so it should be fine with this bios?

thanks

dolf
10-17-2006, 09:39 PM
It's an agp card, so it should be fine with this bios?

thanks

This BIOS is your BIOS moded to 16 pipes. Try the max. core/memory clocks with ATITool just to check for R480 but after unlocking to 16 pipes.

devram
10-17-2006, 11:31 PM
max overclock without artifacts is 438/499... oh well

thanks dolf

dolf
10-18-2006, 07:41 AM
max overclock without artifacts is 438/499... oh well

thanks dolf

It is R430 ;) .

chresk
10-19-2006, 01:50 AM
hello, dolf, you help me yes?

I buy SAPPHIRE 100131L BLUE Radeon X800GTO, here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102042

Is say I have 12 pipelines, I want 16 unlock.

How to do this? tuner riva program say it have r480 12pixelpipelines, 256 bit, 256mb ddr3 memory

Please help, and apology of bad english :)

ladepa
10-19-2006, 04:50 PM
Hi,
I have this x800gto - AGP , core 430 ,red color, 2.0 ns Samsung memories , 256M/256 bits
with this fuses:


http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4069&stc=1&d=1161272231
1.JPG


http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4070&stc=1&d=1161272248
2.JPG


http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4071&stc=1&d=1161272260
3.JPG

Is it unlockable to 16 pipes?
If it is ,please help me with some automated flash utility ,like Dolf`s tool.
I`m very new in computers but very decided in games ;)
Thanks,you`re all great, pals!
My card also has VIVO - forgot to tell you.
...
And , just in case ,here is the original bios:

stevorob
10-20-2006, 01:13 AM
Sorry dude, your card is not unlockable. :(

shawnmos
10-20-2006, 04:21 AM
I just bought one of the blue SAPPHIRE X800GTOs from Newegg. It came with the R480 core and one of the first things I did was flash it to unlock all 16 pipelines. Now it overheats and causes the computer to crash just running the ATITool's 3d renderer for a few minutes. I watched the temperature and it reached 88C before the picture became corrupt and the computer hard locked. Even at idle it it sits at 58C.

Is this card defective or is the stock cooler really that bad? I was going to try and reflash it back to 12 pipes but I forgot to make a backup of the original bios. I used the bios16.zip file in this thread to flash it. Should I RMA this and see if I get a better one or should I just buy a cooler for it?

stevorob
10-20-2006, 04:47 AM
The stock cooler is really that bad... how's your case airflow?

I would buy a new cooler for it... it's a great card for a cheap price.

shawnmos
10-20-2006, 05:00 AM
The airflow is pretty good. It overheats with the case open also.

ladepa
10-20-2006, 01:54 PM
Sorry dude, your card is not unlockable. :(


It is because of that `laser cut` isn`t it?
BTW where to verify that? under the heatsink or on the back of the card somewhere?

dnzn23
10-20-2006, 02:26 PM
hello, dolf, you help me yes?

I buy SAPPHIRE 100131L BLUE Radeon X800GTO, here: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102042

Is say I have 12 pipelines, I want 16 unlock.

How to do this? tuner riva program say it have r480 12pixelpipelines, 256 bit, 256mb ddr3 memory

Please help, and apology of bad english :)



I have that same exact card and it is unlockable. I've already flashed it and got the 16 pipes. But the stock cooling does suck! You'd be lucky to even run any games on it without unlocking the 16 pipes or overclocking. I ordered a new Cooler for it and hopefully that should fix the problem.

stevorob
10-20-2006, 04:32 PM
It is because of that `laser cut` isn`t it?
BTW where to verify that? under the heatsink or on the back of the card somewhere?

I don't think they laser cut R430's. What brand X800gto is it? Almost all red sapphire AGP R430s have been able to unlock... if yours is a sapphire, this is one of those rare cases where it can't be.

Assuming yours is a sapphire, if you just bought, I would try to get an RMA and get another. Chances are it will unlock.

Your fuse data doesn't match... I don't think it's the laser cut fuse data either...

In order to check you have to take your cooler off and look at the core die. It's in one of the corners.

ladepa
10-20-2006, 08:21 PM
you know ,it`s a strange board,don`t know what brand is.i bought it from ebay as x800 gto , i found now it`s a vivo also ,it has that `rage theatre`.
into an other post somebody said it`s a
x800 xl vivo ,i think it is true - but seems unlockable from fuses.
After some research based on the way it looks i can guess is a powercolor x800 xl vivo agp (http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4122&stc=1&d=1161373299) with different cooling sistem.
another guy from my country also bought this (http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4123&stc=1&d=1161373299) card from ebay - his (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=17784) card is unlockable.

if i flash it with the same bios he did what the worse could happend?

Grog6
10-21-2006, 02:22 AM
I have read thru this thread, and bought a x800gto blue card from newegg; it seems to have all the pipelines, but is locked at 12 in the bios, going from the info here.

Which bios should I use to get the pipelines; I'm planning a mild overclock, and am upgrading the cooling. it has 1.6nS memory; I haven't pulled the heatsink, so I'm not sure which chip it is.

stock clocking is 400/490.

the atitool info is:

config die fuses 0xFFFFFFFF
config substrate fuses 0xFFFFFF9F
config rom fuses 0x261
GB pipe select 0x2724

What do you guys think?

stevorob
10-21-2006, 03:35 AM
AGP or PCIe?

In ATI Tool, you can check and see what chip you have.

You can unlock your extra pipes.

You bios should be in this package http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/332

Grog6
10-21-2006, 04:29 AM
I downloaded the bios update boot cd, and loaded the unlock bios; no issues whatsoever.

I'm currently seeing what the fastest stable clock speeds are, and will probably use the 500/550 bios, if its stable at those speeds.

I'm putting this in my athlon m 2500 based system, which is running over 3GHz actual clock speed; not a bad overclock for a 1.8G chip...

This is definately the best deal I've ever gotten on a video card!
$130 from newegg; the card that matches the specs I'm running at is more than double that.

I'm adding a better heatsink, and cooling the RAM and bridge chip with glue on heatsinks;

Does anyone know what kind of heatsink compound is on the stock cooler? I may pull it off, and redo it with artic silver, until I get my new one...

Thanks, everyone, for this thread!

stevorob
10-21-2006, 05:27 AM
I wouldn't waste time re applying AS to the stock heatsink... just wait for your new one to come.

Congrats on the unlock, and looks as if you have an R480 chip from your overclock.

Grog6
10-21-2006, 07:29 AM
I took the heatsink off, lapped the cast copper to a mirror finish, put AS5 on it, glued heatsinks to all the memory chips with thermal epoxy, and it rocks pretty well. Two of the memory chips are under the stock HS, so I made copper spacers to couple them to the main HS...didn't glue them to the chips, but did to the HS...used AS5 between the chips and spacers.

My max temperature is running 72C/40C now, at 500/500, a little bit higher in FEAR...

The stock cooler had globs of an AS looking paste on it, which is bad; but even worse, there is a rubber standoff that is poorly placed, and was keeping the HS from seating fully; I moved it so the HS sits flat on the chip, and it cools much better.

This is a 680 chip, for sure, it looks just like the pic in the howto Dolf posted; every detail is the same. Thanks Dolf, for the howto, and disks!

My 7800GTX in my main system has better performance, but not 6x, the difference in cost.

I wonder how two of the pci express cards would do in crossfire mode? Are they also moddable?

ladepa
10-21-2006, 07:55 PM
I don't think they laser cut R430's. What brand X800gto is it? Almost all red sapphire AGP R430s have been able to unlock... if yours is a sapphire, this is one of those rare cases where it can't be.

Assuming yours is a sapphire, if you just bought, I would try to get an RMA and get another. Chances are it will unlock.

Your fuse data doesn't match... I don't think it's the laser cut fuse data either...

In order to check you have to take your cooler off and look at the core die. It's in one of the corners.

I took off the HS and i don`t see any laser cut ,you were right about this.

I mod an old duron HS and i replace the orig with it,i lost two PCI slots but now it works super! 32 degrees on iddle at stock speeds , 38 celsius at 450/515 , and never exceeds 65
at full load.
Great board, too bad it can`t be unlocked:(

speedy11131
10-23-2006, 02:04 AM
speedy11131 use ATITool to overclock it (find max. core/memory) and tell us what are your maximum overclock with 16 pipes.

Couldn't post this earlier as I didn't have access to the computer with the card.

Anyway, Core max is 430. Ran for hours with no artifacts.
Memory went up to 510 before crashing the computer... :wtf:

Still having the thing unlocked to 16 pipes is awesome, so thanks again Dolf!

Nervax
10-25-2006, 02:21 AM
Hey Dolf? Is this one unlockable?


Sapphire Radeon X800 GTO
Chip Type: R430
Active Pipelines: 12
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES: 0xFFFFBFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES: 0xFFFFFFFE

stevorob
10-25-2006, 04:32 AM
Hey Dolf? Is this one unlockable?


Sapphire Radeon X800 GTO
Chip Type: R430
Active Pipelines: 12
CONFIG_DIE_FUSES: 0xFFFFBFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES: 0xFFFFFFFE

Sorry, you're stuck with 12 pipes. :(

Nervax
10-25-2006, 05:41 AM
Shucks! Aw well, at least I've got 12 :) Thanks

Hershey
10-25-2006, 08:57 AM
In order to help me I know you will need to know some information

I do have the Sapphire x800 GTO .. atm I am at 12 pipe lines and a OC using Trixx too 400 VPU Clock and a 490 Memory AGP 8x.

Now what I am trying to do is unlock to 16 pipelines (if possible, hopefully it is), and dont know where to start, Looking for some help here. What do you guys need from me inorder for this to happen?

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b371/osprey12/techpowerup.jpg


Btw, I did my first successful OC of my system I had a sempron 2500+ and a NFII-400AL mobo, orginally 1.75 ghz, OC'ed now to 2.17 Ghz!!!

Hershey
10-25-2006, 10:11 AM
and i was searching for like a .txt on a "how to" flash Video card if anyone has a link to that, that would be awsome

Hershey741@yahoo.com if anyone can help out

dolf
10-25-2006, 02:43 PM
and i was searching for like a .txt on a "how to" flash Video card if anyone has a link to that, that would be awsome

Hershey741@yahoo.com if anyone can help out

I have feeling that you will need my automated flash CD on bootable image for X800GTO AGP (there are more flash utilities but you need exactly that - read the flash intructions file).

Download link: http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/332

About the VGA flashing you can read here: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/34

Good luck

Hershey
10-26-2006, 11:37 AM
Sigh, im so confused on what to do lol... I read the PDF and etc... im pretty sure im sopouse to use the Automated Flash Utility X800GTO AGP R430 (Realto) zip , but inside that one is 3 more files, which one should i use?

Flash_CD_X800GTO_AGP_R430.zip
X800_AGP_R430_Flash_CD_ver.1.zip
X800_AGP_R430_Flash_CD_ver.2.zip


and when i open up the zip, there is no file

Now im sure there is a reason for that, being it a hidden file (bios) , but how do i burn something i cant find? lol


<--- This newbie is confused as hell :banghead:

Then after I do findout which one to use, all i need to do is burn it by burning an image and then part two rebooting with bios set to boot from cd first .. and after that im a little fuzzy .. according to the pdf, im gonig to be given an option? lol im a little confused and lookin for some help!

p.s and Dolf you said something about flashing my VGA, do I need to do two seperate flashes here?

p.s.s , is there a way i can find the bios im on now, so if i f'ed it up i can put a old pci card in and have it detect that, then restart in bios and change it to Init Display First so im able to reinstall this card? ;)

Hershey
10-26-2006, 11:44 AM
Also I heard I could use a program called WinFlash to bypass going though a bootable flash cd... Would that be better than doing it though the flash/cd? Just wondering

dolf
10-26-2006, 11:24 PM
Sigh, im so confused on what to do lol... I read the PDF and etc... im pretty sure im sopouse to use the Automated Flash Utility X800GTO AGP R430 (Realto) zip , but inside that one is 3 more files, which one should i use?

Flash_CD_X800GTO_AGP_R430.zip
X800_AGP_R430_Flash_CD_ver.1.zip
X800_AGP_R430_Flash_CD_ver.2.zip


and when i open up the zip, there is no file

Now im sure there is a reason for that, being it a hidden file (bios) , but how do i burn something i cant find? lol


<--- This newbie is confused as hell :banghead:

Then after I do findout which one to use, all i need to do is burn it by burning an image and then part two rebooting with bios set to boot from cd first .. and after that im a little fuzzy .. according to the pdf, im gonig to be given an option? lol im a little confused and lookin for some help!

p.s and Dolf you said something about flashing my VGA, do I need to do two seperate flashes here?

p.s.s , is there a way i can find the bios im on now, so if i f'ed it up i can put a old pci card in and have it detect that, then restart in bios and change it to Init Display First so im able to reinstall this card? ;)

Obviously you didn't read the pdf carefully. Don't try to open the iso because it seems empty. Just burn the image using "burn image" option (don't burn it like data file and adding the image into the compilation). Save your original BIOS, open it with RaBit and see the version. Compare with those in the utilities (they contain different versions of BIOSes for your card and should work - all of them). Just check the picture and be sure that your card is equal (on the back side you should see the Realto chip - the biggest near the AGP slot).

Yes you can use atiflash in Windows but you can't open the pipes from Windows ;) .

superfreak121
10-27-2006, 04:53 AM
Hello Everyone..!! I have a quick question about this Sapphire GX800 GTO Unlock. If for some reason I am unable to unlock and start getting artifacts, will I be able to flash back and get rid of that problem, or am I stuck> I just ordered the GTO today from NewEgg.. I am running an Intel 3.2GHZ P4, Abit AS8 mobo, 2.5GB DDR 2700 Memory, Sata 150 HHD's, Also, I'm running AGP .

I am buying this card spacifically to play BF2 and would like to run "it balls to the wall!" Was this a good choice over the Sapphire X1600 PRO 512MB GDDR2 AGP 4
Specs on the X1600 PRO are :#
Core clock: Overclocked Version - 575MHz
D-SUB: 1
DirectX: DirectX 9
DVI: 1
Memory Interface: 128-bit
OpenGL: OpenGL 2.0
PixelPipelines: 12
TV-Out: HDTV/S-Video/Composite Out
VIVO: No
# Model #: 100158L

Thanks in advance for any suggestion and/or insite on this. You guys ROCK.!!!!

stevorob
10-27-2006, 06:22 AM
Yeah, if you flash it and start to get artifacts, you can revert back to your original BIOS.

If you bought the red PCB x800gto, then you should have bought the ATI Silencer5 to go along with it for an extra $20. The stock cooling on the x800gto's are not good at all, and limit the overclocking potential of the card a little because it won't cool good enough. If you end up with an R430 core, your overclock won't be good anyways, but if you get an R480 that unlocks, I would definitely buy a new fan an overclock that bad boy.

Hershey
10-27-2006, 07:05 AM
I just wanted to say thanks to everyone for helping me unlock my video card... thank you dolf!! and all

Jeb
10-27-2006, 08:16 PM
Hi folks!!

I just got my sapphire X800 gto, I have the r430 core and I have the right fuses for the unlocking info.

Can somebody help me whit my bios???

Here my atitool screenshot and my bios dump.

Many thanks for your help!!!

Jeb
10-27-2006, 09:25 PM
Forget about my last post!!!!

I just did it whit the automated cd and it worked like a charm.

I should read a little bit more before posting.

Anyway!!! Thanks for this awsome cd!!!!

anticlutch
10-30-2006, 11:46 PM
Hi, I was wondering if you guys could help me with my graphics card... it's a Sapphire x800GTO with a red board, r430 core (bought from newegg).

Here is the screenshot of my fuses:
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4338/anticlutchx800gtofusesmz9.jpg

Also, I was just curious about the stock fan... simply put: is it enough to withstand overclocking and the flash? ATI Tool says it's idling at 44C with 418.50 core and 544.50 mem...

stevorob
10-31-2006, 12:05 AM
Hi, I was wondering if you guys could help me with my graphics card... it's a Sapphire x800GTO with a red board, r430 core (bought from newegg).

Here is the screenshot of my fuses:
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4338/anticlutchx800gtofusesmz9.jpg

Also, I was just curious about the stock fan... simply put: is it enough to withstand overclocking and the flash? ATI Tool says it's idling at 44C with 418.50 core and 544.50 mem...

Use the automated tool found in the downloads section of this site.

I would recommend getting a different fan for that card, as the stock fan will not keep it cool enough after flashing or with any sort of OC.

anticlutch
10-31-2006, 12:06 AM
Thanks for the quick reply :D

I'll flash it right now and edit this if it's sucessful

Edit: I sucessfully flashed it to 16 pipes... thanks guys :D

WebSurfer80
10-31-2006, 09:50 AM
Hi all,

Here is a screenshot from atitool, and an attached bios.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k187/WebSurfer80/FUSES.jpg

can you please unlock my pipes :)

My Current 3DMarks are:

8757 400/490 (Default)
9505 441/591 (OverClocked)

email: saed_swedan2000 at yahoo dot com

Thanx in advance...

dolf
10-31-2006, 11:52 AM
Hi all,

Here is a screenshot from atitool, and an attached bios.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k187/WebSurfer80/FUSES.jpg

can you please unlock my pipes :)

My Current 3DMarks are:

8757 400/490 (Default)
9505 491/591 (OverClocked)

email: saed_swedan2000 at yahoo dot com

Thanx in advance...

Your card will unlock :D . Please tell me what is the colour of the PCB (red or blue)? With that core overclock 491MHz is should be equiped with R480 ;) . You can use that automated flash utility to unlock to 16 pipes: http://www.savefile.com/projects/971168 (the first one which contains the very same BIOS)

After unlocking to 16 pipes test again the max. core/memory and post it here.

If your card has R480 (like it seems) you can also use the other flash utility which contains R480 BIOS for X800GTO with Realto bridge and also overclocked BIOSes: http://www.savefile.com/projects/733218

Success

WebSurfer80
10-31-2006, 12:06 PM
if by PCP you mean the color of the Cards' board, then it's red, it's exactly like the one in your unlocking guide with PN=1024-CC66-00-SA. and in the ATITool it says "Chip Type = R430". my current idle temp. is 36C and 50C at max load (Overclocked).

Thank you very much for the new bios, i'll try it and post the new results. :respect:

dolf
10-31-2006, 12:53 PM
if by PCP you mean the color of the Cards' board, then it's red, it's exactly like the one in your unlocking guide with PN=1024-CC66-00-SA. and in the ATITool it says "Chip Type = R430". my current idle temp. is 36C and 50C at max load (Overclocked).

Thank you very much for the new bios, i'll try it and post the new results. :respect:

I have corrected the PCP (mistake) to PCB (yes this is the card's board). After you have the overclock results I will mod the device ID for R480 which should give you better performance at same clocks. Also I need your stable overclock in order to prepare overclocked BIOS for you.

WebSurfer80
10-31-2006, 01:05 PM
sorry, in my previous post i wrote 491 core clock, but it was 441 (it's corrected now) :p.

i flashed the card with the first bios in the bootable CD. it's now 16 pipes :D. but should i use this bios or should i use the X800XL bios (in the same bootable CD) (the last choice in the menu) and what's the difference.

my current Stats are (after unlocking):
on 3DMark 2003
9546 400/490 (Default)
10396 436.91/579.27 (Over clocked)

Idle temp. 35C, and ~52C at max load.

in my previous post that was my stable overclock for 12 Pipelines, now it's 436.91/579.27 with 16 Pipelines. any higher clocks give me artifacts.

dolf
10-31-2006, 03:40 PM
sorry, in my previous post i wrote 491 core clock, but it was 441 (it's corrected now) :p.

i flashed the card with the first bios in the bootable CD. it's now 16 pipes :D. but should i use this bios or should i use the X800XL bios (in the same bootable CD) (the last choice in the menu) and what's the difference.

my current Stats are (after unlocking):
on 3DMark 2003
9546 400/490 (Default)
10396 436.91/579.27 (Over clocked)

Idle temp. 35C, and ~52C at max load.

in my previous post that was my stable overclock for 12 Pipelines, now it's 436.91/579.27 with 16 Pipelines. any higher clocks give me artifacts.


This is R430 definitely. You can use X800XL BIOS because in fact your card is XL AGP. Benefit ... just recognition like X800XL. I consider that the beter idea is to use the overclocked BIOS 420/525MHz.

WebSurfer80
10-31-2006, 04:21 PM
Thanks very much for your help, you've just brightened my day :).

all is working well, and i'm very happy with the result.....

god bless you for all your hard work :D.

vrm4
11-02-2006, 07:06 AM
New member hear and sucessfully flashed my Sapphire x800gto using dolf's utilities, verified w/ atitool and just wanted to say thanks for your help, looking forward to learning and ocing more. Thanks Dolf!

Pavlos3
11-02-2006, 03:48 PM
hi guys ,,

i am new here and i want to unlock my pipes too

unlocking them does mean better cooling solution, or i can stay with the stock cooling for a while...

4316

ReggieMC
11-06-2006, 09:39 AM
I was upgrading from a 9600 Pro, so pretty much anything would be a step up. After about a week considering what card to purchase i decided on the Sapphire X800 GTO 100131L Blue mainly from finding this forum and seeing it could reach x850 Pro speeds with ease. When reading reviews of this card and its tendency to get really hot i decided beforehand to purchase a Zalman ZM80D-HP Dual Heatpipe Noiseless VGA Cooler and bought the optional Zalman ZM-OP1 fan to go with it. After i received it, i was curious about the other reviews I'd read about this card and so I installed it for 30 minutes just seeing for myself how bad the stock cooler is. Using Lavalys' Everest Home Edition to monitor the temps, it ran 65c idle for 15 minutes, then i loaded up a game that still had my low settings from my 9600 pro and i was shocked that it hit 80c after gaming for 5 minutes.

After that, i removed the stock cooler and installed the Zalman ZM80D-HP and the fan on the videocard, which was kind of a pain (could've been because it was 1:00am when i started the project) but well worth it as it dropped the GPU temp 21c and never went over 50c under 100% load before flashing and overclocking it. I used the FlashCD_X800GTO_AGP_R480 file from the Flash Utilities.zip found on this site and i was able to unlock the 4 pixelpipelines and used the 520/540 modded BIOS and i still have room to OC if i ever feel the need to. Idle GPU temp is 48c and under 100% load gaming for over an hour it stays around 65c. Clock speeds went from 400/490 to 520/540 without a problem.

The one problem i had is i had to move my hard drives up because the heatpipes stuck out too much and i had to take out my floppy drive, which was useless anyway. So i guess it really wasn't a problem, just more or less gave me an excuse to get rid of the floppy.

If you do buy a x800 GTO, strongly consider getting a aftermarket cooler

Oh yeah, and i would also like to thank Dolf :rockout:

http://img.techpowerup.org/061106/MyComputer974.jpg

Pavlos3
11-06-2006, 10:24 AM
guys i dont know how hot can my core go during games, cause i dont have any games to install - play - and check temps.

I am seeing all this load at AtiTool ( find max core, find max mem ) where if u leave them running the temps after a while will go to 90c...

I just dont know how to measure temps on load ...?

Sorry i have install artistic silver ( ceramic ) on it and my temps drop 4c-6c ( on idle ).

p-jack
11-06-2006, 10:38 AM
ok, when you use the "find max core/find max mem" in ATITool (you see the fuzzy dice left to the main window) your core temp reaches 90°C.... :eek: this is way too hot. mine never goes above 65°C.

I just dont know how to measure temps on load ...?

ATITools fuzzy dice puts more load on both your cpu and gpu than most games will, so you CAN monitor temps on load.

ReggieMC
11-06-2006, 10:39 AM
what i did to check my temps was to leave Everest Home Edition up, started my game, played for an hour and closed it down and the temps are right there

Taz100420
11-09-2006, 03:43 AM
does it have to be sapphire to unlock the extra pipes? cause what is the difference? the stock cooling?

dolf
11-09-2006, 03:41 PM
does it have to be sapphire to unlock the extra pipes? cause what is the difference? the stock cooling?

The difference is that Sapphire has the advantage to be one of the most "reliable" ATI partners and usually gets the best cores (most of the 16 pipe cores). When they finish the stock of the "bad" (lower than 16 pipes) cores they begin to install the available one (understand 16 pipe R430 and R480 mainly) on the low budget cards. The other companies has only the needed 16 pipe cores for the high-end. The rest cores (4, 8 and 12 pipes) are installed on different PCB's with reduced number of elements (power supply elements) which make the final product cheaper.
Hope that the above will be interesting for you and will answer to the question.

Taz100420
11-09-2006, 03:53 PM
The difference is that Sapphire has the advantage to be one of the most "reliable" ATI partners and usually gets the best cores (most of the 16 pipe cores). When they finish the stock of the "bad" (lower than 16 pipes) cores they begin to install the available one (understand 16 pipe R430 and R480 mainly) on the low budget cards. The other companies has only the needed 16 pipe cores for the high-end. The rest cores (4, 8 and 12 pipes) are installed on different PCB's with reduced number of elements (power supply elements) which make the final product cheaper.
Hope that the above will be interesting for you and will answer to the question.



Oh thanks that has explained alot to me, really.

abie72
11-10-2006, 06:06 PM
hi to all guru's out there im new member and ive been reading here around for few weeks now and finally i decided x800gto agp a try coz i also have agp system,i already installed the card to my system and it scored 4430 at 3dmark 2005 @ stock speed i want some juice from this card to last a year or more for gaming, i purchase this card at ubid.com as an open box but the website says that this is only ATI RADEON X800GTO AGP i dont know if this is a SAPPHRE OR NOT there is no logo of any manufacturer on the board except ATI , If this is not sapphire can i still flash this to 16pipes? and what bios will i use?.... please help me, here's the pic....

http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/6140/2006087773536064081_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2006087773536064081)

dolf
11-11-2006, 10:17 AM
It will unlock. Post here the original BIOS and the PCB Part Number (board's number) - top front part of the board (something like PN 109-xxxxxxx-xx).

abie72
11-11-2006, 02:02 PM
HI dolf.. thank you for you kind reply....which bios should i use?
PART NO. is P/N 102A4900500 000001
heres my original bios , while youre in the download page wait 15 sec,
http://d.turboupload.com/d/1197812/abie12pbios.zip.html

dolf
11-11-2006, 11:12 PM
HI dolf.. thank you for you kind reply....which bios should i use?
PART NO. is P/N 102A4900500 000001
heres my original bios , while youre in the download page wait 15 sec,
http://d.turboupload.com/d/1197812/abie12pbios.zip.html

Just to be on the safe side use your own BIOS moded to 16 pipes. Use atiflash in DOS mode with the following command line:

atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 16pbios.bin

abie72
11-12-2006, 04:44 PM
Just to be on the safe side use your own BIOS moded to 16 pipes. Use atiflash in DOS mode with the following command line:

atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 16pbios.bin


Wow! thanks dolf i have now 16pipes! it works...it gives me 400pts improvement in 3dmark05@ stock speed,my temp didnt change 64-66c on load with 3dmark05 also i didnt change the cooler of the card.. do i need to upgrade my cooler at this temp? im not planning to overclock it now it can play all my games flawlessly, thanks again man!
heres my atitool pic @16pipes.


http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/6290/2002004685506369997_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2002004685506369997)

dunnleed08
11-20-2006, 11:38 PM
hey....i have a sapphire x800gto and it came out of the box with 16 pipes...but it can only overclock to about...430/545....is it worth flashing the bios and voiding the warranty for the performance boost????....oh yeah r430 core with vantec iceberg cooler

dolf
11-21-2006, 07:36 AM
hey....i have a sapphire x800gto and it came out of the box with 16 pipes...but it can only overclock to about...430/545....is it worth flashing the bios and voiding the warranty for the performance boost????....oh yeah r430 core with vantec iceberg cooler

No sense to flash it.

dunnleed08
11-21-2006, 07:37 AM
i just thought i might be able to get higher clocks out of it......but..prob. not enough to lose warranty

dolf
11-21-2006, 08:10 AM
i just thought i might be able to get higher clocks out of it......but..prob. not enough to lose warranty

To overclock it to the max. - YES but no sence to flash it ;)

Ruckerduck
11-22-2006, 04:03 AM
After reading the posts in this board and paying close attention to what Dolf and other gurus wrote, I tried to mod the x800GTO Sapphire I have from 12 to 16 pipes ... the fuse and substrate strings on my card matched the cards in which it was recommended to use ATIFlash to unlock the additonal 4 pipes. After making a boot disk, I loaded it with ATIFLASH, the old bios (bios.bin, saved after dumping from ATITools), and 16pbios.bin ... rebooted, then I entered "atiflash -f -p 0 16pbios.bin <E>" ... the screen then reported

OLD SSID 1600
New SSID 0302
Old P/N 11X-006600SA-003
New P/N 113-A49002-101
Flash Type M25P05/C
10000/10000h bytes programmed
10000/10000h bytes verified

and wouldn't you know it, there is nothing but a blank screen now! I reinstalled the old 9600 to get the computer back in operation - is there a way I can reinstall the old bios (bios.bin) onto the x800GTO to use it again? It was a nice card, for the 3 weeks I had it ... thanks.

abie72
11-24-2006, 09:04 PM
from where did you got that 16pbios you used? you should post your ati tool reading and your original bios so others (like dolf) can check it and make suggestion how to do it... maybe you have the wrong bios... in my case , dolf modified my original bios to 16pipes.

dolf
11-25-2006, 12:21 AM
After reading the posts in this board and paying close attention to what Dolf and other gurus wrote, I tried to mod the x800GTO Sapphire I have from 12 to 16 pipes ... the fuse and substrate strings on my card matched the cards in which it was recommended to use ATIFlash to unlock the additonal 4 pipes. After making a boot disk, I loaded it with ATIFLASH, the old bios (bios.bin, saved after dumping from ATITools), and 16pbios.bin ... rebooted, then I entered "atiflash -f -p 0 16pbios.bin <E>" ... the screen then reported

OLD SSID 1600
New SSID 0302
Old P/N 11X-006600SA-003
New P/N 113-A49002-101
Flash Type M25P05/C
10000/10000h bytes programmed
10000/10000h bytes verified

and wouldn't you know it, there is nothing but a blank screen now! I reinstalled the old 9600 to get the computer back in operation - is there a way I can reinstall the old bios (bios.bin) onto the x800GTO to use it again? It was a nice card, for the 3 weeks I had it ... thanks.


Looking the SSID's and the BIOS P/N you have flashed wrong BIOS (probably wrong type - PCI-E instead AGP or vice versa). Now card could be repared but it will be dificult.

You can find someone to unsolder the EEPROM and to re-prodramm it on external programmer or to try the hot swap trick. (Look the forum for that procedure because it has described from a member).

Good luck

pandadandan
11-30-2006, 12:30 AM
Hi there, another newb with the same age-old questions.

I seem to have the exact same card as abie72 (the ATI-only branded x800gto),
which carries most of the same readings save for the "catalyst version" which on mine reads as 6.11
With that in mind I'm definitely not going to wade in without some advice, so here I am.
I (think) I've posted up a real lo-fi screengrab of my atitool readout and a bios dump from the card (hex editing terrifies me).

The card PCB no is as follows:
PN 109-A49001-00

So (fingers crossed) some kind person will be able to help me unlock the card. Then I can overheat it and cry at a later date :laugh:

Many thanks in advance!

pandadandan
11-30-2006, 12:32 AM
http://img.techpowerup.org/061129/atitool.gif
Oh yeah........the atitool readout......
silly me

dolf
11-30-2006, 08:03 AM
Hi there, another newb with the same age-old questions.

I seem to have the exact same card as abie72 (the ATI-only branded x800gto),
which carries most of the same readings save for the "catalyst version" which on mine reads as 6.11
With that in mind I'm definitely not going to wade in without some advice, so here I am.
I (think) I've posted up a real lo-fi screengrab of my atitool readout and a bios dump from the card (hex editing terrifies me).

The card PCB no is as follows:
PN 109-A49001-00

So (fingers crossed) some kind person will be able to help me unlock the card. Then I can overheat it and cry at a later date :laugh:

Many thanks in advance!

The fuses are OK and you will unlock it to 16 pipes. Looking the PCB PN and the BIOS it should be X800XL VIVO AGP board which mean that you can use X800XL VIVOAGP BIOS. I will attach moded to 16 pipes BIOS and also X800XL VIVO AGP.

Flash one of them using atiflash in DOS mode with the following command line:

atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 bios16.bin

or

atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 X800XL.bin

mboggs
12-03-2006, 03:09 AM
Hi dolf,

I'm trying to mod my Sapphire X800 GTO AGP (R430 chip) to have 16 pipes. I've browsed through this forum, but I'm still not certain what I should do. As I understand it, you have created a CD image which others have had success with. Could you send me this image? I'm attaching a screenshot of the ATITool. I'm also attaching a dump of my card's bios.

I appreciate any help!

mboggs
12-03-2006, 03:12 AM
Oh, I forgot to mention, the part number for my card is:

11X-CC6600SA-004

Thanks again!

stevorob
12-03-2006, 06:52 AM
The image is in the package that can be downloaded from this page.

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/332

All the directions are in there as well. Good luck :)

ChrisMG
12-05-2006, 10:52 PM
Ok, so I've just spent the better part of a half a day reading this entire thread. Interesting stuff. Even more interesting because I just ordered a Sapphire X800GTO from Newegg. believe its the blue PCB version...yeah, the one that seems to melt due to heat problems. Great, kind of wish I'd have gotten the red PCB now.

Anyway, I'm pretty confident in being able to identify the bios and unlock the pipes if they're unlockable (and if I feel the need to). I don't have a question about that, but rather about power consumption. I'm still running on an old 300W PSU and I'm not sure that it will be hefty enough to supply the needed power to the card. I don't have very much running on it though:

Sempron Palermo 3100+ OC'ed to 2.2Ghz
One (1) 60GB WD HDD (5400 rpm)
1GB Corsair PC3200
One (1) Sony DRU-510A DVD Burner
One (1) No name Cd-Rom (50x)

And thats about it. My board has onboard sound and I have no other devices connected, including any USB devices. Do you fellas think that my PSU now will be enough to power the card seeing as I have a very minimal system? Otherwise, I'd need to buy a new PSU (Probably a 380W or 400W Fortron) but if I can get away with what I've got now, that would be great. Oh yeah, as an afterthought, I should add that I _do not_ plan to unlock the pipes or OC the card unless I have to. I'm moving from a 4 pipe Radeon 9200SE sporting a 64-bit interface to this X800, so I'm pretty sure that I'll be amazed even with the 12 pipes and 256-bit bandwidth architecture. A shame? Sure it is, but I'm a Police Officer with a family and I don't make near enough money to buy a new video card should I blow this one to pieces or melt it.

Any thoughts would be helpful. Oh and Dolf, Error_Force and the several others who seem to know what you're talking about, great job.

Edit: I don't have the card yet, so I can't post any information or specs on it. Just thought I'd get the jump on this thing before I get it.

stevorob
12-06-2006, 05:39 AM
I ran my X800GTO in my Dell... it only had a 300w power supply, and I don't even think it was a good one at that... some OEM garbage.

I was able to run my card at 16 pipes with a mild overclock. You should be fine.

I would also advise a new cooler, since all the X800 coolers are junk. If you get the blue one, I think you'll have to go with the zalman vf700 or vf900, but if you got the red one, I suggest the Arctic silencer 5 just because it vents the heat out of the case.

caamsa
12-08-2006, 01:21 AM
I have an X800GTO Sapphire R430 core and want to unlock it. I just want to make sure I have the right bios. My card is the red one with the larger heat sink. The picture of it is in the instructions that I down loaded from a link on this site. I just had a hard time finding the right bios to use. Can anyone help me out. Also is it better to use a bootable floppy instead of the CD I had a hard time last time I used a bootable CD. Thanks in advance.

caamsa
12-18-2006, 12:25 AM
Thanks to Dolf for helping me get my Sapphire X800GTO unlocked to 16 pipes. NewEgg still sells these things for 130 bucks. I flashed my card with each bios. I saw no difference between the X800XL, the X800GTO overclocked, or stock with just 16 pipes. I was running 3Dmark 2001 but they scored all the same. Thought that was strange. I have it unlocked to 16 pipes and will try a manual overclock. With the current stock heat sink the card runs at about 38c which I thought was kinda low I assume ATI tool is giving me an accurate reading. O well that is all for now. :toast:

makivili
12-18-2006, 06:41 AM
what are normal operating temps for the sapphire x800 gto? i've been looking, and i was just wondering what temps i should try to keep. Mine is running 39c idle and 62-63c load. I have ati tool set to keep at 65c since i've never seen it get that high. I do have 16pipes with the overclock via. Dolf's cd. r430

dolf
12-18-2006, 08:28 AM
what are normal operating temps for the sapphire x800 gto? i've been looking, and i was just wondering what temps i should try to keep. Mine is running 39c idle and 62-63c load. I have ati tool set to keep at 65c since i've never seen it get that high. I do have 16pipes with the overclock via. Dolf's cd. r430

Guys always try the max. core clock because it is absolutely possible to receive such (red) card with R480 but to miss that ;) . If the core can pass 460MHz and more than you are damn lucky to have R480.

walter34payton2002
12-18-2006, 11:24 AM
Hello. This is my first post to this forum. I read this thread and thought it was very informative and Dolf is quite a master, but it left one thing unclear to me. I have the Sapphire X800GTO AGP card with the R480 core. I got the impression that this card cannot be unlocked. Does anyone know if this card can be unlocked, or does this thread refer to those with the R430 core or R480 PCI-E only??? I have also read contradictory and confusing info. and I would like to put this to bed once and for all. Many thanks.

dolf
12-18-2006, 01:50 PM
Hello. This is my first post to this forum. I read this thread and thought it was very informative and Dolf is quite a master, but it left one thing unclear to me. I have the Sapphire X800GTO AGP card with the R480 core. I got the impression that this card cannot be unlocked. Does anyone know if this card can be unlocked, or does this thread refer to those with the R430 core or R480 PCI-E only??? I have also read contradictory and confusing info. and I would like to put this to bed once and for all. Many thanks.

These cards may come with R430 (most probably) or with R480. R480 usually can be met on blue boards the R430 on red one's but of course R480 is also possible.
For bot cores R430/R480 can't be accepted as a rule that they will / won't be unlocked. It is matter of producer and luck all together. The only way to say with 100% sure whether one core can or couldn't be unlocked to 16 (or less) pipes are the fuse values. If you post here your fuse values I can tell you whether is possible to unlock your exactly core (card) to 16 pipes.
With Sapphire the chance is great but with Power Color for instance your chance is very small.

caamsa
12-18-2006, 11:34 PM
Im not sure what the normal operating temps are for this card. I know my 7950GT in my main machine runs between 50c to 56 no matter what I seem to be doing. I am going to remove the gpu heatsink on my GTO to check the chip and add arctic silver to it since it seems to be a pretty good stock cooler. Will prob put my Zalman 900 on my 7950GT.

Waldoinsc
12-19-2006, 01:30 AM
I have the red PCB R480 Sapphire X800GTO. Temp at stock clocks and cooler was in the mid 50C range. If I OC'd more than 5%, the temp would shoot up. Highest I let it get was 80C before throttling it back. After I installed an Arctic Cooler 5 (w/ AS5), the card ran in the upper 30C range at stock, and the highest I have ever seen it is 62C (when I let ATITool find max core...which ended up around 560MHz). The R480 OC's well, unlike the R430. I have the ATITool set to OC for 3D app's at 530Core/590mem. I have no issues with the card, and run a Samsung 904b 20 inch monitor at 1600x1200, and the card normally runs at 50-55C.:cool:

walter34payton2002
12-19-2006, 08:02 AM
Many thanks Dolf. I have the Sapphire blue card. My fuse values are as follows:

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x261
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x2724

I physically examined the core and it is indeed the R480 core. Remember this is the AGP version.

I would very much appreciate your expertise, Dolf.

stevorob
12-19-2006, 08:47 AM
Use the flash utility in this download package.

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/332

dolf
12-19-2006, 09:01 AM
Many thanks Dolf. I have the Sapphire blue card. My fuse values are as follows:

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0xFFFFFF9F
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0x261
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0x2724

I physically examined the core and it is indeed the R480 core. Remember this is the AGP version.

I would very much appreciate your expertise, Dolf.

I would suggest also a direct link to "your" utility: http://www.savefile.com/projects/733218
(Automated Flash Utility for X800GTO AGP with R480 and Realto bridge). Read the flash instructions before to start flashing.
Please to report what are your max. core / memory after unlocking to 16 pipes. When you determine the max. core/memory you can choose one of the overclocked BIOSes included within the utility.

Good luck

walter34payton2002
12-20-2006, 03:12 AM
I would suggest also a direct link to "your" utility: http://www.savefile.com/projects/733218
(Automated Flash Utility for X800GTO AGP with R480 and Realto bridge). Read the flash instructions before to start flashing.
Please to report what are your max. core / memory after unlocking to 16 pipes. When you determine the max. core/memory you can choose one of the overclocked BIOSes included within the utility.

Good luck

Dolf....you are truly a man amongst boys when it comes to this stuff man. Flash worked perfectly and your time is very much appreciated, my man. I will post my core and mem max shortly. I am hoping I can repay the favor sometime. Many thanks!

walter34payton2002
12-20-2006, 07:14 AM
Dolf, I decided to go with your 500/500 overclock. Once again, many thanks. Got my score to 5535 on 3dmark05 with your overclock and 16 pipes. With 12 pipes and a higher overclock of 573/490 I got 5160. So it is safe to say I got atleast 400 points more with the unlock considering that my score with 12 @ higher OC was almost 400 points lower.

walter34payton2002
12-21-2006, 08:39 AM
Sorry for the separate posts, but I post em when I know em. Actually I clocked it down to original specs and ran it to get an exact idea of the improvement with 16 pipes. At same clocks but with 16 pipes open, I scored 1545 points in 3dmark05 higher than with 12. Wow.

On a side note....What would be the best way to edit the overclock in the BIOS to a custom setting of my choice?

caamsa
12-21-2006, 01:16 PM
What I would like to know is there any difference in the GTO 16 pipe bios and the X800XL 16 pipe bios. I tried both and did benchmarks and saw no difference. Also flashed the overclocked 16 pipe bios and saw no improvement over the 16 pipe gto. Should the X800XL bios improve my benchmarks in some games/apps????

anth0ne
12-22-2006, 12:43 AM
:banghead: :banghead:

in the last couple days ive noticed some really bad display problems. my display is showing horizontal hatch marks all over the screen that get worse with movement. check this pic i snapped while i was running ati tool.


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/100/305119662_e15c4b1365_o.jpg

you can see the horizontal red lines developing within the browser and the distortion the rotating cube is showing in ati tool. it says no artifacts though

previously i was running with my card with a slight overclock(nothing beyond what the sapphire utility said i was capable of) and since then have reflashed and reset everything to stock speeds yet the problem remains. i also have a zalman vf700 cooler installed and working properly.

the guys over at the abit boards and sapphire boards think my card may be bad. i want to get one final confirmation before i go ahead and try to return it

comments and suggestions?
__________________

stevorob
12-22-2006, 03:12 AM
Looks like it is going bad. What kind of temps are you seeing?

IonJoe
12-22-2006, 02:53 PM
I just bought the Sapphire X800 GTO [AGP] from NewEgg.

I received the Red pcb with the R430 chipset and according to ATItool I have 16 pipes out of the box!

My questions are:

1.) Should I flash it to any other bios, like the X800XT?
2.) Should I overclock it at all with the stock cooler? If so what speeds?
3.) If I upgrade to an Artic Cooler can the R430 chips handle the recommended 500/500 overclocking or do I need the R480? If not what is recommended for the R430.

Thanks to anyone who can answer these questions!:respect:

caamsa
12-22-2006, 03:31 PM
IonJoe im not sure. I unlocked mine and then unlocked with the overclock and then flashed the bios to the X800XL but saw no difference in the benchmarks. Of course I never updated or reloaded the drivers maybe that might make a difference.

I would say use ATI tool and use the auto overclock and see what you get. I have the same card that you have and the stock cooler seems sufficient. Mine runs at 38c stock and with a mild overclock. Have not really pushed it yet. Good luck.

IonJoe
12-22-2006, 05:05 PM
Thanks for the input caamsa.

It appears you can not really overclock the R430 chips, so I will probably leave it at stock speed and with the stock cooler.

Since it came with all 16 pipes unlocked, I guess it is basically a X800XL which still runs for around $300, so I should be happy.

?Question?
Which one would be faster:

1.] A 16 pipe R430 at stock speed
OR
2.] A unlockable 12 pipe R480 which you can heavily overclock?

anth0ne
12-22-2006, 05:06 PM
Looks like it is going bad. What kind of temps are you seeing?

the trixx software never went over 60c. usually it would hover around 30-40 depending on the application. it only approached 60c during gaming.

stevorob
12-22-2006, 06:02 PM
Thanks for the input caamsa.

It appears you can not really overclock the R430 chips, so I will probably leave it at stock speed and with the stock cooler.

Since it came with all 16 pipes unlocked, I guess it is basically a X800XL which still runs for around $300, so I should be happy.

?Question?
Which one would be faster:

1.] A 16 pipe R430 at stock speed
OR
2.] A unlockable 12 pipe R480 which you can heavily overclock?


R480 with a heavy overclock is usually faster. However, hope you can get the R480 that unlocks AND can overclock well. :)

the trixx software never went over 60c. usually it would hover around 30-40 depending on the application. it only approached 60c during gaming.

You may have just gotten a bad card. If temps arent extreme, and you're already seeing errors like that, that gpu is dying and you'll need to replace it.

Shannon
12-23-2006, 08:30 AM
I just wanted to share my experience about the X800GTO AGP I just recieved from Newegg. I was following this forum with great interest before I ordered it. First the card I recieved was blue not red as was advertised on Newegg. It was fully labled as an X800GTO and the box advertised VIVO. When I installed it and checked it with ATItool it show that it had an R420 chip with a default core 475/ memory 450. Newegg advertised it as core 400 / mem 490. Catalyst Control Center showed the card as an X800Pro. I was dissappointed at first but being the adventurous type I decided to use Dolf's auto flash for X800PRO vivo to 16 pipes only. It did not work and I still had only 12 pipes in ATItool. I tried again, this time flashing the X800XT bios with 500/500 clocks. On reboot it worked! Device manager and Catalyst Control Center showed the card as an X800XT with the 500/500 clocks. ATItool showed 16 pipes and the new clocks. The card sets at about 38c and runs Half-Life2 at 55c. Just as a matter of interest my old pentium 4 rig did 3DMark03 at 11500 with Omega drivers and 11800 with Catalyst drivers so I am going to have to stick with Catalyst. I just wanted to thank Dolf for all the great work he is doing on this forum.

stevorob
12-23-2006, 08:31 AM
That's good to hear.

How much of an overclock have you been able to get with the card?

Shannon
12-23-2006, 08:51 PM
All I have done is try to scan for maximum memory clock using ATItool. It never showed any artifacts although the card shut down and caused me to reboot in the 550 range. I thought I should leave well enough alone. GRAW and HL2 look great so I'm happy.

ozzie
12-23-2006, 10:47 PM
Here is a screen shot of some info from my X800 GTO card

http://img.techpowerup.org/061223/biosinfo.jpg

and I have attached a zip of my bios. (If it can be modified....)

I believe the card is unlockable to 16 pipes. But is there a modded bios I can download from somewhere to flash the card? :confused:

caamsa
12-23-2006, 10:52 PM
Can anyone tell me the difference in the unlocked X800 GTO bios and the X800XL. When I benched the card with each bios.......no overclock just the unlocked 16 pipes their speeds were pretty much identical. What does the X800XL bios do? If anything at all........:rolleyes:

dolf
12-23-2006, 11:14 PM
Can anyone tell me the difference in the unlocked X800 GTO bios and the X800XL. When I benched the card with each bios.......no overclock just the unlocked 16 pipes their speeds were pretty much identical. What does the X800XL bios do? If anything at all........:rolleyes:

Just the name ;) .

dolf
12-23-2006, 11:17 PM
Here is a screen shot of some info from my X800 GTO card

http://img.techpowerup.org/061223/biosinfo.jpg

and I have attached a zip of my bios. (If it can be modified....)

I believe the card is unlockable to 16 pipes. But is there a modded bios I can download from somewhere to flash the card? :confused:

Your card will unlock to 16 pipes. Flash it with the attached bios in DOS mode using atiflash.

atiflash -f -p -newbios bios16.bin

After unlocking to 16 pipes find max. core/memory with ATITool and inform us about the results :) .

Shannon
12-24-2006, 02:11 AM
I overclocked to 520/560. Screen went black and I had to reboot. :( I guess I'll stick with 500/500 for stability.

stevorob
12-24-2006, 02:20 AM
Up that memory some. Find the max on the mem, drop it about 10-15 mhz, and you're card should run slightly better than with it sitting at 500mhz.

Core doesn't seem to want to be responsive, so I suppose 500mhz is good on that.

ozzie
12-24-2006, 03:30 AM
Ok, I am doing something wrong, cause it's not working.....

http://img.techpowerup.org/061223/command prompt.jpg

even after I restart the machine, ATItool still shows only 12 active pipes.:(

stevorob
12-24-2006, 03:36 AM
Are you trying to flash it in windows?

I believe you have to flash it off of a floppy or USB drive. There are tools out there that will make a USB drive into a bootable drive.

Or you could make a boot cd.

ozzie
12-24-2006, 03:40 AM
so I just put atiflash and the modded bios onto a CD, change the bootup sequence in CMOS/BIOS to read the disc drive first, then enter the command line?

stevorob
12-24-2006, 03:42 AM
Yeah, that should work.

ozzie
12-24-2006, 04:53 AM
Didn't work :(
I put a boot file on a floppy, along with ATIFlash, and the modded bios, entered the command line, and still got the same result

Said: "Format: ATIFLASH -p <adapter num> <filename>"

Shannon
12-24-2006, 05:46 AM
Stevorob

I followed your advice and just tried to overclock the memory. I saw artifacts appearing at 545 so I set the memory at 530 and ran 3DMark03 at 500/530. My score went up from 11800 to 12042. I think I will leave it there as long as it stays stable. The temperature reached 71c and I don't want to change from the stock cooler right now. I plan on a couple hours of HL2 to night so I'll know if it will be stable. Thanks.

stevorob
12-24-2006, 05:46 AM
I don't think format is part of the command line. There is a post where dolf has the command line written out.

dolf
12-24-2006, 09:55 AM
Didn't work :(
I put a boot file on a floppy, along with ATIFlash, and the modded bios, entered the command line, and still got the same result

Said: "Format: ATIFLASH -p <adapter num> <filename>"

Your floppy disk should be bootable (you can make it bootable from windows XP when you format the floppy disk), should contain atiflash and the desired bios16 ;) .

Shannon
12-25-2006, 04:58 AM
The last X800GTO AGP at newegg has been purchased and they took the page down completely. :cry:

stevorob
12-25-2006, 05:06 AM
Stevorob

I followed your advice and just tried to overclock the memory. I saw artifacts appearing at 545 so I set the memory at 530 and ran 3DMark03 at 500/530. My score went up from 11800 to 12042. I think I will leave it there as long as it stays stable. The temperature reached 71c and I don't want to change from the stock cooler right now. I plan on a couple hours of HL2 to night so I'll know if it will be stable. Thanks.

That's good to hear. A 200 point increase on just memory overclock is really nice. I would definitely look into aftermarket cooling. An ATI SIlencer 5 or a zalman vf-700 / 900 would really help out with both core and mem overclocks. That extra cooling will provide the stability.

The last X800GTO AGP at newegg has been purchased and they took the page down completely. :cry:

So are they not going to be getting anymore? If not, it's a sad sad day in the x800gto world :(

BigJohn82
12-25-2006, 10:01 PM
Merry Christmas Everyone!

I just wanted to post as today I received my new video card, the Sapphire Radeon X800 GTO 256mb AGP card from my Wife for Christmas. I am very glad she got it when she did as NewEgg doesnt have them available anymore. I originally was asking for an X850 Pro until out of the blue they didnt have them anymore, just like these now. So im happy to have one.

I lucked out and got the R430 Core already unlocked at 16 Pipes so im very happy I dont have to flash the bios. I have overclocked it from the 400/490 stock to 425/535 stable with 70 mins checking for artifacts with ATI Tool with the temp reaching 58-59 max. I have now upped it to 435/546 to see if I can go a little higher but I just started testing, only 8 mins in, and its fine so far reaching 59 max temp. I think this card will be a big improvement over my X700 Pro 256mb that had only 8 Pipes and was overclocked from 425/432 to 461/515 stable. What do you think?

Anyways, thanks for all the informative posts and mad props to Dolf for all his hard work in helping everyone out.
Merry Christmas
John

ozzie
12-26-2006, 03:29 AM
Your floppy disk should be bootable (you can make it bootable from windows XP when you format the floppy disk), should contain atiflash and the desired bios16 ;) .

I have made a bootable floppy, containing atiflash, and the bios16.bin files

I type "atiflash -f -p -newbios bios16.bin"

the exact response given back is

"Format: ATIFLASH -p <adapter num> <filename>"

still only running 12 pipes.

I dont know what the adapter number is, or If I am meant to type it in the command line either :(

Definitely booting from a startup/restart of the machine, with windows NOT running.

Shannon
12-26-2006, 06:46 AM
Newegg is not selling anymore AGP X800 cards. I did see 2 AGP X800PRO cards on zip zoomfly. They have the same clocks as the card I just got from from newegg ; 475/450. They are asking $330 and up for these cards. I just paid $130 for this card and with Dolfs utility I flashed it toa X800XT for free. How can they charge that much for these cards? You can get an Nvidia 7800GT for less than ZZ is asking for the X800 series AGP cards. What's is going on?
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=320869-OP
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=320802-OP

ozzie
12-26-2006, 02:44 PM
Right, got it working

First off, i typed "atiflash -i"
this told me the adapter numbers..(there were 2)
i then typed
"atiflash -f -p 0 bios16.bin"

then rebooted to windows, and viola! 16 pipelines open :)

Now to find out how much extra overclock I can push!

Actually, I think I am going to have to invest in a better cooling fan first.
The one currently on the card is patheticly small and useless

IonJoe
12-27-2006, 04:13 PM
Newegg still has some open box X800GTO [AGP] for sale.
At only $88.00 it's a heck of a deal if you can open all 16 pipes...


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102002R

dolf
12-27-2006, 07:35 PM
I have made a bootable floppy, containing atiflash, and the bios16.bin files

I type "atiflash -f -p -newbios bios16.bin"

the exact response given back is

"Format: ATIFLASH -p <adapter num> <filename>"

still only running 12 pipes.

I dont know what the adapter number is, or If I am meant to type it in the command line either :(

Definitely booting from a startup/restart of the machine, with windows NOT running.

Probably I forgot to write it but you should add the adapter number:

atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 bios16.bin

Shannon
12-28-2006, 05:26 AM
Newegg still has some open box X800GTO [AGP] for sale.
At only $88.00 it's a heck of a deal if you can open all 16 pipes...


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102002R

All I see is PCI Express on that webpage.

IonJoe
12-28-2006, 02:32 PM
All I see is PCI Express on that webpage.

I just checked and it looks like you're right. They must have sold out of all the open box X800GTO AGP cards sometime on 12/27. It looks like that's it then.:(

bearcat500
12-29-2006, 10:42 PM
Can anyone tell me if my card is able to be mod'd to 16 pipes and if so, which bios to use?

Thanks

stevorob
12-29-2006, 10:51 PM
It's moddable.

Use dolf's flash utility and make sure you use the R430 AGP 16 pipe bios.

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/332

bearcat500
12-29-2006, 11:36 PM
Thanks Stevorob!!!! Works perfect!

stevorob
12-29-2006, 11:48 PM
No problem. :)

walter34payton2002
01-09-2007, 03:57 AM
Does anyone know what would be the optimum aperture size setting in BIOS with this card (AGP version)? I have it default at 64mb but was going to set it at 128. Has anyone benchmarked it at different settings to see what worked best. I am interested in knowing what the best setting for use with this specific card is as some cards work best with different "AGP aperture size" settings. There are all sorts of theories out there as to what is best. Anyone have any ideas regarding this? Thanks.

caamsa
01-15-2007, 10:12 PM
I think you want to set it to 256mb since the card is a 256mb card.

Rayn
01-19-2007, 12:25 AM
Hey.. I bought a X800GTO AGP open box from Newegg..
(The page actually went down like half an hour after I bought it, so I think I got the last one. Sorry everyone.:()

Anyhoo, I've checked the BIOS version against all the ones that can be unlocked to 16 pipeliness, and it fits those exactly. I downloaded the automated flash utility, but it's vague and I don't know which files to burn to CD exactly.

I downloaded 'atiflash,' but for some reason it's not recognizing that adapter 0 is a valid location.. so I don't know exactly how to use it. Is there a way to determine the adapter number?

And I don't have a floppy disk drive anymore.. can I burn a CD the same way?

I've basically tried everything and I'm still out of luck. What should I do?

Kammster
01-19-2007, 07:36 PM
u have to download the bios for which gpu u have
R430 or R480
check abroung Page 82 of the x800 bios mod sticky, use on search the thread also.

try mod ur bios yourself with the instructions in the thread.
nero can make bootable cds, with atiflash and the a 16 pipe bios
atiflash/? - list of commands
atiflash -i - list of adapters

dolf
01-19-2007, 11:00 PM
Hey.. I bought a X800GTO AGP open box from Newegg..
(The page actually went down like half an hour after I bought it, so I think I got the last one. Sorry everyone.:()

Anyhoo, I've checked the BIOS version against all the ones that can be unlocked to 16 pipeliness, and it fits those exactly. I downloaded the automated flash utility, but it's vague and I don't know which files to burn to CD exactly.

I downloaded 'atiflash,' but for some reason it's not recognizing that adapter 0 is a valid location.. so I don't know exactly how to use it. Is there a way to determine the adapter number?

And I don't have a floppy disk drive anymore.. can I burn a CD the same way?

I've basically tried everything and I'm still out of luck. What should I do?

You have to read the flash instructions file first ;) . And after that to burn the image (to use the "burn image" option) on CD. It will be bootable with everything included (atiflash, BIOSes).

David
01-22-2007, 08:11 AM
Hi,

I bought a Sapphire Radeon X800 GTO via eBay and now I would like to unlock the last 4 pipes. So I downloaded Dolfs Flash Utility. In Sapphire_X800GTO_AGP_R430_Flashing_Instruction.pdf all Informations are similar to my X800 GTO, but there is ONE difference: My Bios now is 11X-CC6600SA-002(!!!), 01/20/05, 14:19:32 instead of 11X-CC6600SA-004, 01/20/05, 14:19:32! Can I although use this version of Flash Utility?

I attached my Bios for further Information.

Greets,
David

dolf
01-22-2007, 02:54 PM
Hi,

I bought a Sapphire Radeon X800 GTO via eBay and now I would like to unlock the last 4 pipes. So I downloaded Dolfs Flash Utility. In Sapphire_X800GTO_AGP_R430_Flashing_Instruction.pdf all Informations are similar to my X800 GTO, but there is ONE difference: My Bios now is 11X-CC6600SA-002(!!!), 01/20/05, 14:19:32 instead of 11X-CC6600SA-004, 01/20/05, 14:19:32! Can I although use this version of Flash Utility?

I attached my Bios for further Information.

Greets,
David

Yes you can. 004 is newer than 002 which is something good.

cjoyce1980
01-22-2007, 03:46 PM
Does anyone know what would be the optimum aperture size setting in BIOS with this card (AGP version)? I have it default at 64mb but was going to set it at 128. Has anyone benchmarked it at different settings to see what worked best. I am interested in knowing what the best setting for use with this specific card is as some cards work best with different "AGP aperture size" settings. There are all sorts of theories out there as to what is best. Anyone have any ideas regarding this? Thanks.

Card Memory 128MB = Aperture Size 128MB
Card Memory 256MB = Aperture Size 64MB or less
Card Memory 512MB = Aperture Size 64MB or less (off if possible)

The aperture uses main memory, (your RAM) as graphics memory, this will slow the overall performance of your pc.

The Aperture was brought about in the early AGP days, but now graphics cards come with 256Mb as standard, its not really necessary.

AT-2500
02-04-2007, 10:08 AM
hello to you ;)

I read the first three pages of this thread and wondered about the posts of greven2000 on the first page.
he wrote he had the r430 and postet then his results after unlocking the 4 pp.

ello
a little update on the progress, i got as high as 457/577 mhz when i had 12pipes
and with 16pipes i was impressed, the core got as high as 582mgz!! and the memory 601mhz
not a bad increse in performence. a bang for the buck

so here is my question: Normally the R430 does not get over a certain level, but he has after the mod very much higher clocks than before. Could that be? Or has he a r480 detected as 430? Or had he just luck with his r430 being a sorted-out r480 like it can happen to you at cpus?

hellhammered
02-04-2007, 11:45 AM
I finally got my 16 pipes after much frustration, I'd like to thank Dolf for the excellent utility.
Makes me wish I'd found it much sooner. Devilishly simple....;)

ABIT IS7-G
P4 Extreme HTT
Duel CPU 2.80GHZ
Memory 2 X 512MB
Seagate (120GB)
Radeon X800 GTO 256MB AGP
MAG 996PF 19" Flat Screen CRT
Realtek AC'97 Audio 5.1 (Front)
Pioneer 150W amp
powering 2 Pioneer
4-way home speakers
Aiwa Subwoofer (Rear)

belkincp
02-11-2007, 11:31 AM
Do I use flash 1 or flash 2?? my bios was exactly as shown in the pdf file, the 11x..etc serial number.

Thanks

belkincp
02-13-2007, 01:21 AM
i want to thank the power up academy forum..and all my friends who helped me...if i messaged you and you messaged back..that means you are a good person with a good heart. :slap:

caamsa
03-02-2007, 02:47 AM
I have the R430 core on the sapphire with the red board and large cooler. My advice is to take that cooler off and put some arctic silver on there. It is a decent cooler but when I took mine off there was white paste on the gpu but hardly any on the memory. I silvered it up and it runs much cooler. :toast:

malkaviano
03-07-2007, 06:07 PM
Ok, i bought a VF-900, after installing and getting better temperatures, what clocks can my card get? I mean normally what clocks this card gets?.
By the way, my card is already a X800 XL? It came with 16 pipes from factory. No BIOS flashed.

Clock: R430.
Memory: 1.6ns. NOT SURE.
Active pipelines: 16pipes.
Sapphire AGP.

Zalman cames today, will test.

caamsa
03-11-2007, 03:45 AM
Check out this link.



http://www.guru3d.com/article/content/177/7/

aragorn309
04-13-2007, 09:02 PM
Hello Guys..
I have a little problem :(
Few days ago I have buy Sapphire Radeon X800 GTO 256/256 2.0 samsung R430 core.
400 core/490 memory Mhz
I read on the internet about this card . I found that I can mode it to card whit 16 pipelines
but I don't know how...
If it possible I wan't to mode it to x800xl ( Can windows may show subtitle x800xl INSTEAD x800 gto ?? (HOW TO DO THIS ALSO ???)
Can you help me??
PLEASE!! I will be grateful for this ...

aragorn309
04-14-2007, 05:20 AM
Tell me what I must to do and give me the programs to do this or send them into my email ---> aragorn309@o2.pl

GJSNeptune
04-24-2007, 11:56 PM
I would also like the utility: astronamy AT aol DOT com.

Is CCC recommended or are the display drivers sufficient? I have the latest CCC installed, and ATITool .26 shows the Catalyst version as 'unknown.' Is this normal?

What's the best way to wipe ATI drivers?

AthlonXP 3000+ Barton
NF7-S v2.0
Antec TrueBlue 480W
1.5GB Corsair ValueSelect CAS 2.5

MaDsCoT
04-25-2007, 03:43 AM
Hello All,

I bought my Sapphire Radeon X800 GTO AGP 256MB from NCIX a few months ago. I had no idea I could unlock an extra 4 pipes! Before I cook my card I'd like someone to identify any potential issues. I checked my cards bios with the ati tool and it looks like i'm good to go.

Running:
Athlon XP 3200+ (400Mhz FSB)
Abit NF7-S 2.0
Sapphire Radeon x800 GTO AGP 256MB
2GB (2x1GB) Kingston HyperX PC 3200 CL2-3-2-6 @ 2.7V (Dual Channel Kit)
200GB Western Digital SATA HD
SB Live! 24bit
Antec NEO HE 500W PS
1x LG CD Burner
1x LG DVD Burner

Thanks Guys - Hoping to hear a YES!

GJSNeptune
04-25-2007, 03:53 AM
Wow, we have similar systems. As far as I can tell from your images, it seems moddable. Looks the same as mine, actually, except my ATITool has 'unknown' for my Catalyst verison.

How do you like the Omega drivers? I may try them. I'm getting sick of my games having choppy gameplay. I've no idea why they aren't fluid like they used to be before I reinstalled XP Pro.

MaDsCoT
04-25-2007, 04:01 AM
I love the Omega Drivers. Never had an issue with them and they are slick. Someone recommended them to me and they stuck. Anyone else have something good/bad to say about omega drivers? Maybe a better alternative?

Dave1982
05-13-2007, 11:24 AM
Hi, i have a Sapphire X800GTO.
Itīs a AGP with 256MB.
Where can i find the modded BIOS for my card?
Can i use ATIWinFlash?

MaDsCoT
05-14-2007, 06:52 AM
Hi, i have a Sapphire X800GTO.
Itīs a AGP with 256MB.
Where can i find the modded BIOS for my card?
Can i use ATIWinFlash?

Check out this thread
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=30049

Check your fuses & then go to this thread to download the bootable cd image with the modded BIOS
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=14024

I did exactly this and unlocked my Sapphire x800 GTO. It was very easy and worked perfectly.

Double check the pdf file that comes in that bootable cd archive and make sure your card looks the same.

Just make sure it all matches up or you may screw your card!

erocker
05-14-2007, 07:03 AM
I would lose the omega drivers on that card. I have the same card and it actually runs best with the latest 7.4 drivers. Also, it should unlock nicely, I know I was sent a flash for my card early in the thread. Too bad the core didn't oc untill I installed a aftermarket cooling solution. I paired it against a r420 core x800 that wasn't unlocked but overclocked and it put it to shame.:D

Prostak
02-08-2008, 06:39 PM
Hi guys!
I just bought the Radeon X800 GTO Sapphire 256MB DDR3 256/256 1.6 samsung R480 core AGP
and i would like to set it for 16 pipes from 12 standard pipes
i will be very thankful!!

e-mail: jazz33@rambler.ru

theholmboy
02-08-2008, 07:28 PM
http://www.xmission.com/~theholmboy/FlashCDX800GTOAGPR430.zip

RHH

Prostak
02-09-2008, 12:06 PM
Hi all !
Hi theholmboy !
Hi dolf !
core - R480
I've attached my ATITool results

Prostak
02-10-2008, 09:09 AM
Hi!
I've attached photo of my card

dolf
02-10-2008, 11:19 AM
Prostak, here you are your BIOS moded to 16 pipes. Use atiflash in DOS mode (bootable floppy disk or USB flash drive) with atiflash and the BIOS (unpaked) on it.

Use the following command line: atiflash -f -p -newbios 0 X80GTO16.bin

After the flash check the number of pipes (if still the same uninstalll and install again the ATITool)

Now with 16 pipes try the max overclock of the card core/memory (with ATITool). After finding the maximums you can edit the 16 pipe BIOS with RaBit and to set new core and memory (lower with 10-15MHz than the max. stable discovered with ATITool) speeds. Finaly just flash this new "overclocked" BIOS to your card and have fun. If you plan to overclock the card you have to think for better cooling.

Prostak
02-10-2008, 01:33 PM
I am very grateful
Thank to you

Prostak
02-10-2008, 09:11 PM
Yes!
I am now on 16 pipes!
3d mark 05:
12 pipes : 4319
16 pipes : 4888
Thanks dolf

bretts31344
03-01-2008, 05:57 PM
I unlocked my Sapphire X800 GTO AGP card to 16 pipes like a year or so ago. It ran fine until it started showing artifacts in games. Now it shows artifacts on 2D stuff. I flashed it back to the original BIOS, but it still shows the same problems. Is there a way to fix it? I think it is pretty much completely broken now.

cowdude
06-08-2008, 05:29 PM
Dolf if you have time can you help me? I can post whatever info you need on my card. I have no way into dos accept trhough a bootable cd and I can burn one. let me know what you need. I attached some items that may help

Thanks in advance

dolf
07-05-2008, 03:10 PM
I will need some time to prepare the tools for you :).