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wtf8269
05-02-2006, 11:45 PM
Other than just raw power, are the x1900's better in crossfire than x1800's? Meaning more bugs worked out etc. I know some of the big issues like the old limitation of 1600x1200 @ 60hz is gone with the new CF chipsets out. I'm planning on probably getting a x1800xt CF edition along with a DFI CFX3200 sometime this summer. So I was wondering if it'd be worth it to sell my x1800xt for an x1900xt and get an x1900 cf edition instead?
wtf8269
05-04-2006, 03:42 AM
Bump.
Azn Tr14dZ
05-04-2006, 04:45 AM
Yeah, I think that the R580's are better in CrossFire, because they're more powerful cards. But the X1800 Series have gotten cheaper lately(like an X1800 XT 512MB for low $300). If you're willing to spend the money, go X1900, but X1800's aren't that bad either for CrossFire. personally, I can't afford both, I'm ghetto.
wtf8269
05-04-2006, 06:10 PM
Well I'm not talking about just being more powerful, I had figured they would be faster. I was wondering if the x1900's were less glitchy in crossfire or had more bugs worked out than the x1800's did. Thanks for the reply though.
Mome
05-04-2006, 06:25 PM
As far as I know, there aren't any further bugfixes...

But the X1900 CF cards are much cheaper to buy, than the X1800 CF cards...
wtf8269
05-04-2006, 06:34 PM
I must disagree with you on that. $386 (http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/product.asp?dept%5Fid=268&pid=13476&sid=KVXW8GVML6R38NADFSLJP42BBTUDDD97%%3E#packageco ntent) vs $570 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814195001). However thanks for the reply. I think I'll just go with the r520 CF then. :)
Mome
05-04-2006, 06:49 PM
Ok...

semms so, as if the Prices were much different in Germany.
In Germany its hard to acchive a X1800CF card and they are very expensive (klick) (http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a180971.html) and the X1900 CF card is cheaper (klick) (http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a185501.html) ...

Didn't really think about the opportunity, that the prices could be so different in America :rolleyes:
trog100
05-04-2006, 11:02 PM
in the UK the 1800 master works out at about the same price as the 1900 master.. which kinda makes the 1800 master a rip-off.. it also tends to suggest to me ati dont really want u to take c/f 1800 way.. he he

i think the 1800 way is the sensible way thow.. the power requirements aint so dramatic.. the nice cheap x1800xt makes up for the rip-off master i recon..

trog
Azn Tr14dZ
05-05-2006, 01:55 AM
If I were you, I would actually wait until the driver for X1800 GTO CrossFire comes out. You still have a pretty powerful card for about $200 and lower. Just get two, and you don't need that external CF dongle. It has the on-chip CF Bridge.
wtf8269
05-05-2006, 02:54 AM
Ok...

semms so, as if the Prices were much different in Germany.
In Germany its hard to acchive a X1800CF card and they are very expensive (klick) (http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a180971.html) and the X1900 CF card is cheaper (klick) (http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a185501.html) ...

Didn't really think about the opportunity, that the prices could be so different in America :rolleyes:
Yeah guess not. I wouldn't have either. If you ever need anything cheap from the states though I'd be glad to help you out.
If I were you, I would actually wait until the driver for X1800 GTO CrossFire comes out. You still have a pretty powerful card for about $200 and lower. Just get two, and you don't need that external CF dongle. It has the on-chip CF Bridge.
Not a bad idea, but selling my card and getting 2 GTOs would be less than two XTs. It would save me money, but I'd imagine the gain of 2 GTOs over a single XT wouldn't be huge. And if I do end up needing to save money, I could just ditch this idea. The whole thing is pretty crazy anyway. It's pretty sweet that the CF GTOs won't need the dongle though; however the dongle doesn't particularly bother me.
Azn Tr14dZ
05-05-2006, 03:01 AM
They'te both good though, either GTO's or XT's. One reason why I like the GTO's is that they're not dual-slot. And they don't run as hot. It gives both the cards some breathing room. If I ever get two cards (which I might soon) I'll use liquid cooling.
tofu
05-05-2006, 03:02 AM
If I were you, I would actually wait until the driver for X1800 GTO CrossFire comes out. You still have a pretty powerful card for about $200 and lower. Just get two, and you don't need that external CF dongle. It has the on-chip CF Bridge.

Yes, I agree as well. GTO's in Crossfire are worth every penny. Besides, I heard you can unlock them, no? Some people say you can't, but HKEPC makes it sound so believing... :respect:
wtf8269
05-05-2006, 03:31 AM
That's the other thing I was wondering is how do you overclock when you've got two cards. Does it overclock them together as one, or do you have to do them individually? I can't even overclock the XT I have now. ATITool always crashes with it, even with the latest beta versions.
Azn Tr14dZ
05-05-2006, 05:32 AM
Oh, I didn't notice that you already have an XT.
wtf8269
05-05-2006, 06:45 PM
Well, Allstarshop got the XT CF edition back in stock, but it's back up to $450 after rebates. I'm still willing to pay that, but it's not as nice of a deal as $360. So I can get the pure ATI CF retail version for $450, an OEM version of the same card for $409, a Sapphire retail version for $399, or I could get a Gigabyte x1900 CF on Newegg for $490. I'd rather not get the Gigabyte because it's a different card and a company I'd rather not get. Everyone I've known that has gotten a Sapphire has had problems with it. (My one friend had to RMA his 3 times and eventually just got another card after the 3rd time.) The OEM version if I'm correct comes with no warrenty. So I think that I'll still end up getting the retail x1800 CF. Any suggestions that I do otherwise?