Cooling Ideas

[Azn Tr14dZ]

So, my ThermalTake BigWater SE didn't fit in my case, so I'm now looking for new coolers.
Here are my choices:
Zalman CNPS 9500 LED
or ThermalTake BigTyphoon

Which one is better for my Intel Pentium D 820? I'm also adding an 80mm exhaust fan for my side panel and maybe a 120mm exhaust fan for my rear, both Antec TriCool w/ Blue LED's.

Any suggestions, thanks!

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Anyone? I need to know which is better before I buy tonight.
Thanks,
Azn

[markkleb]

first whats the case and whats inside?

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Here's my case:
http://www.digiconcepts.com/supertalent_cases_05.htm

The only difference is the door and mine has a window.

I have 1 120mm Antec TriCool fan intaking air in the front to the harddrives. Than fan is fine with me, I don't want to change it. Then, I have 1 generic 80mm fan that came with the case, which I want to change. I also have 1 generic 120mm fan that came with the case. I want to change those 2 with 120mm and 80mm Antec TriCool Blue LED fans.

I think that airflow should be fine.

Now, my processor is an Intel Pentium D 820 2.8GHZ @ 3.3GHZ. So, which one would be better, Zalman CNPS 9500 LED or the TT BigTyphoon?

Thanks!

[markkleb]

I would def get the zalman. Facing the back it will suck from the front and blow out the back.

Thw TT big Typh will just blow at the mobo spreading warm air all over the place.

And I would not put a fan in the window unless I used the Big typhoon.

better to suck air in from front and spit it out the back. If you add stuff in the middle it messes up the flow of the air.

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Are you sure?

Would my airflow be good enough though, with the three Antec's intaking in frone and exhausting on the side and rear?

[markkleb]

how many fans intaking in front?

[markkleb]

For your comp I would cut out the front 2 fans. But make sure the metal is trimmed away from the fans and this will be killer.

[Azn Tr14dZ]

One 120mm Antec Fan intaking in the front(79 CFM). I'm also going to get one Antec 80mm fan for the side window(34CFM) and one more Antec 120mm fan in the rear(79CFM).

So... which cooler should it be? This is my setup for now. If you have any more suggestions markkleb, say so.

Thanks

[markkleb]

No side fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Azn Tr14dZ]

What!?! Why not? What's wrong with it? Should it be intake or exhaust? It has duct that I can take out too!

[Azn Tr14dZ]

For your comp I would cut out the front 2 fans. But make sure the metal is trimmed away from the fans and this will be killer.

The metal came trimmed on the back anyway. I'm too lazy to trim the front one!

[markkleb]

If you arent going to listen why ask for advise?

I have said why several times so far...

[markkleb]

than this is just a waste of time..

[Azn Tr14dZ]

I'm listening to your advice. Don't worry.

I think I have good airflow right now. Almost the same as that pic.
79CFM intaking in front, 79CFM exhausting in back, and the PSU is also exhausting.

Now, all I need is a CPU Cooler.

Would it be fine if my side panel fan was also intaking, or should I just remove it and put a fan guard(grille) on it?

[markkleb]

If there is metal in front of ur fan you have mabye 1/4 to 1/2 of its flow. Plus the plastic case front.

[Azn Tr14dZ]

There is noe metal in the back. it's like the first pic you posted. The front one has little metal, but like you said, I'll cut it.

Should I just take out the side fan?

What cooler should i get? I'm going to go out and buy in an hour, BigTyphoon or Zalman CNPS 9500 LED?

[bigboi86]

I cut the intake and exhaust on my case, it helped dramatically.

http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/261/6.jpg

These are all sunon 40CFM fans, and my case literally feels like a wind tunnel.

BTW, both heatsinks are awesome, you can't go wrong with either. I've personally seen a Zalman 9500 in action, and I recommend it highly, but I have also heard great things about the big typhoon, just ask Drade what it did for his system.

He had a BigWater, he swapped to a BigTyphoon and temps went down a lot.

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Hmm... nice bigboi86. I'll try that.
What CPU Cooler should I get though, the Zalman CNPS 9500 LED or the TT BigTyphoon?

Along with those two, I'm getting an Antec 120mm fan for the rear exhaust.

Thanks

[bigboi86]

I edited my post above, but after doing some more research people seem to favor the Big Typhoon.

It is also upgradeable, you can always put a high CFM fan on with a fan controller, so you can have nice overclocking sessions with the fan on high, but turn it down for daily use. It would be extremely hard to change the fan on the Zalman.

So go with the BT.

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Alright, thanks! I'll get the bigTyphoon then.

here's what I'm going to get tonight or tomorrow:
1x Antec 120mm TriCool Blue LED fan(for rear exhaust)
1x Antec 80mm TriCool Blue LED fan(for side panel intake or exhaust)
Maybe another Antec 120mm for the BigTyphoon(the BigTyphoon fan is only 54 CFM, the Antec is 79CFM)

So basically, it's going to be 120mm fan in front intaking(79CFM), one in side intake/exhausting(34CFM) and one on rear exhausting(79CFM). Sound good bigboi?

Should i even change the BigTyphoon fan, or does 54CFM sound good for now?

[bigboi86]

Alright, thanks! I'll get the bigTyphoon then.

here's what I'm going to get tonight or tomorrow:
1x Antec 120mm TriCool Blue LED fan(for rear exhaust)
1x Antec 80mm TriCool Blue LED fan(for side panel intake or exhaust)
Maybe another Antec 120mm for the BigTyphoon(the BigTyphoon fan is only 54 CFM, the Antec is 79CFM)

So basically, it's going to be 120mm fan in front intaking(79CFM), one in side intake/exhausting(34CFM) and one on rear exhausting(79CFM). Sound good bigboi?

Should i even change the BigTyphoon fan, or does 54CFM sound good for now?

54CFM is plenty to give great temps, but if you want REALLY high performance air, get a ~100cfm fan and put it on there. Some people will find this overkill, and it's gonna be loud, but that's why you put it on a fan controller.

[Azn Tr14dZ]

54CFM is plenty to give great temps, but if you want REALLY high performance air, get a ~100cfm fan and put it on there. Some people will find this overkill, and it's gonna be loud, but that's why you put it on a fan controller.

The Antec's are quiet though, and they also have a fan controler with 3-speed settings.

I don't really care much about noise. I don't wwant it to be 60dba or something like that but 40-50 is fine because most of the time I either have really loud rap music(my neighbors get mad) or a headset!

I'm probably going to get an Antec for the BigTyphoon, but not now, later.

[Casheti]

Hey Azn Tr14dz, how did you overclock your Pentium D 820?? I've got a Pentium D 920 running at the stock 2.8GHz. What did you use to do it, and how?

[bigboi86]

Hey Azn Tr14dz, how did you overclock your Pentium D 820?? I've got a Pentium D 920 running at the stock 2.8GHz. What did you use to do it, and how?

He probably used the BIOS to overclock, like 99% of everyone else.

You should read some overclocking guides before you mess something up.

[Casheti]

Well, how do I overclock using the BIOS? i want to give a pic of the bios, but it bloody well doesn't upload. Either too big or my 1mb broadband isn't fast enough.

[bigboi86]

Well, how do I overclock using the BIOS? i want to give a pic of the bios, but it bloody well doesn't upload. Either too big or my 1mb broadband isn't fast enough.

Google "overclocking guide" and learn :)

[Casheti]

Google "overclocking guide" and learn :)

Or... I can just ask Azn Tr14dZ, seeing as he has my processor, and did it.

[bigboi86]

Or... I can just ask Azn Tr14dZ, seeing as he has my processor, and did it.

Or.... you can learn for yourself seeing as how every motherboard and system performs differently.

But go ahead and start blindly OCing.

[Casheti]

Actually, if you care to look, he has my motherboard as well. I only want to OC to roughly 3.0GHz and nothing under.

[bigboi86]

Actually, if you care to look, he has my motherboard as well. I only want to OC to roughly 3.0GHz and nothing under.

Ah, but the same memory and power supply as well? Every system performs differently. No two processors are exactly alike. Not all motherboards and PC parts are equal.

Overclocking is an art. You should take the time to learn it.

The first step you can take, is adjusting the FSB speed through the BIOS, make sure your ram is either running at or below it's rated speed by using dividers(unless you have good overclockable ram).

A CPU speed is determined by a simple equation; "FSB X CPU multiplier" when you raise the FSB the cpu speeds goes up.

How far you can overclock your processor depends on the ability of the CPU, motherboard, ram, and power supply, as well as cooling.

This is just a brief introduction, it would take an hour to write a full guide.

Noone wants to help someone who refuses to help themself, knowledge is only a google away.

[Casheti]

I just wanna jump in the ring and box with the big boys. The big muscley OC boys.

[bigboi86]

I just wanna jump in the ring and box with the big boys. The big muscley OC boys.

Read up then, and become one of the best.

[Casheti]

Can't I just wait for Mike Tyson (Azn Tr14dZ) to step into the ring and give me a lesson I wont forget. Im sure our computers aren't THAT different. Please could you check my specs and see if I'm up for OC to 3.0GHz?

[Casheti]

Oh, and why does my BIOS say my memory is PC 4200, and all software tells me its PC 4300?

Whats the difference?

[PVTCaboose1337]

Ok, mem is fine better than mine, PSU scares me but is also fine. Cooler is BAD for ocing, might be ok for a minor overclock, but other than that, no. Also, read some guides, cannot point you to a good one, but do. Basically enough, you want to go up by about 5mHz at a time, and as the comp "hits the wall," you slowly make the vcore rise. Personally, I don't let my cpu (a northwood like yours at 3.2 stock) get over 65c or 1.55v. Read a guide, thats just the gist.

[Casheti]

Well, would it make any difference if I just blew a giant desktop fan onto all the components?

I found out mine has a presler core. SysSpec was telling me wrong.

[bigboi86]

Well, would it make any difference if I just blew a giant desktop fan onto all the components?


:rolleyes:

Some people just never learn.

[Casheti]

Well, I just wanna ask Azn Tr14dZ how he did it first. If he did it a way I cant, then I'll look up the guides. Azn Tr14dZ PLEASE TELL ME WHEN YOU ARE ON AND I NEED YOUR OC SKILLS TO PASS DOWN A GNERATION!!!

[Azn Tr14dZ]

What temps are you getting on your Pentium D 920 now, Idle and Load?

[Casheti]

How can I check?

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Oh yeah... you have an HP. My MoBo only came from an HP too (that's why in the case gallery it said came from HTPC case).

Wait, I'm deoing some research right now. Where do you live?

[Casheti]

Im in South East England, so nowhere near you basically. What method did you use to overclock the CPU??? I imagine it would work for me too.

[KennyT772]

again dude read guides.

what azn will say is only on your board.
i can gauntee you will one more then one pc you with to overclock
read guides(availble everywhere) and u only need to be told once
ask questions like this and you have to be told every time in specifics for each mobo so just read the friggin guides


oh and google is your friend

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Well, you can get CPUFSB, for around $18 and when you overclock it, it saves it so that everytime you turn it on your overclock applies. If you don't want to pay, get limewire and download the full for free.

[bigboi86]

again dude read guides.

what azn will say is only on your board.
i can gauntee you will one more then one pc you with to overclock
read guides(availble everywhere) and u only need to be told once
ask questions like this and you have to be told every time in specifics for each mobo so just read the friggin guides


oh and google is your friend

Thank you!! :D

[Azn Tr14dZ]

^LOL. Thanks you guys. I didn't want to be rude and tell him off but if he asked again I would.

[Azn Tr14dZ]

I'm bored now, because I can't help anyone...

[trog100]

the zalman looks pretty.. he he

trog

[Casheti]

So, Ill just get CPUFSB and OC my CPU. I hope this works.

[Casheti]

Any way i can "flash the BIOS", so my MOBO is overclockerble?

[Azn Tr14dZ]

There are ways but it's not guaranteed to work, and it might damage your MoBo so you have flip the CMOS switch.

[bigboi86]

Any way i can "flash the BIOS", so my MOBO is overclockerble?

Nope.

You will find no BIOS that it can be flashed with. Get a new motherboard and read some guides :)

[Casheti]

Bah. Now HP AND Dell are on my hitlist.

[Casheti]

And on Limewire, CPUFSB just comes up with .exe files. Not the actual program. :( :mad: :wtf: :banghead:

[Casheti]

I guess Ill just buy a new gfx card, and it'll all go away! (Well, no it wont, but it will ease the pain, DX10 HERE I COME!!!) BTW, how long till DX10 gfx cards are released?

[bigboi86]

And on Limewire, CPUFSB just comes up with .exe files. Not the actual program. :( :mad: :wtf: :banghead:

There is a really awesome thing called search engines.

One of them that is very well known, is www.google.com. Please go here, and type "CPUFSB" in, and click search.

You will then be able to find CPU FSB home page.

This is an example of what I came up with: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=420

Download this. It will be an executable, which will install the program.

Goodluck on your mission. This can be quite hard for some people, downloading and installing a program and all...

[Casheti]

erm, excuse me, i was tld to get it off f limewire, cos it costs.