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W2hCYK

06-10-2006, 07:30 PM

Team number 50711 for Folding@home is up!

Join in the number crunching and get those WU's going while youre asleep.

Heres links and valuable information for using F@H

Use the console version vs. the graphical. The Graphics use more cpu power. The console knocks off WU's much faster.

Link to stats: http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=50711

If you change your name, WU's wont transfer over, once you finish a WU, its tied to that name. You can change information by right clicking, going to configure, and then changing stuff in there.

I find that these settings work the best.

Advanced Tab:
Core priority: Slightly Higher
Checkpointing Frequency: about half of the slider.
Deadlines: Ignore Deadlines. Dropdown box, Deadlineless. and uncheck the last box.

This post is an effort to provide the information you may want or need to understand Folding @ Home and hopefully decide to participate.

I've started to go through the info at the FAH site and I am going to attempt to present it in a simple, easier reading format. I find the site can present a difficult read and this may discourage possible donors :(. This is all FAH info and can be found at http://folding.stanford.edu/ and it's various links, I've only modified the presentation a bit. I hope this is helpful :)

FOLDING@HOME
By Skitzo

Folding@Home is a distributed computing project that takes advantage of computing resources made avaliable by donors to study protein folding, misfolding, aggregation, and related diseases. Scientists have sequenced the human genome, giving us the blueprint for all of the proteins in biology. This project allows the proteins to be studied in order to understand what they do and how they do it.

A Protein:

A protein is a necklace of amino acids, a building block of biology. A protein can perform many functions; as an enzyme they drive all the biochemical reactions that make biology work. As structural elements, they are the essential parts of bones, muscles, hair, skin and blood vessels. As antibodies they recognize "invaders" and allow the immune system to remove them.

In order to perform its function a protein must first self-assemble, a process known as "folding". Scientists believe that diseases such as Alzheimer's disease, cystic fibrosis, BSE (Mad Cow disease), an inherited form of emphysema, and even many cancers are the result of misfolding. These misfolded proteins can clump together or "aggregate" and build up in the brain.

Become a Donor:

You can participate in the research as a donor by downloading a client(s) to run on your hardware. The clients are designed to run in the background with minimal effects to daily use. They take advantage of the resources you are not using at the moment and release them if you should need them. There is a selection of clients, so choose the best fit for you.

Results:

Unlike other distributed computing projects, Folding@home is run by an academic institution (specifically the Pande Group, at Stanford University's Chemistry Department), which is a nonprofit institution dedicated to science research and education. They will not sell the data or make any money off of it. Moreover, they will make the data available for others to use. In particular, the results from Folding@home will be made available on several levels. Most importantly, analysis of the simulations will be submitted to scientific journals for publication, and these journal articles will be posted on the web page after publication. Next, after publication of these scientific articles which analyze the data, the raw data of the folding runs will be available for everyone, including other researchers, on the Folding@Home web site.

This is a link for the FAH home page:
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Main

This is a link to the FAH pdf Executive Summary, it provides a brief descrpition of the FAH project:
http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/FoldingFAQ.pdf

This link gives a more detailed explanation of protein's and folding:
http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/folding/science.html

Clients:

There are different types of clients ready for download . Clients have been designed for Windows, Linux, Mac, and PS3. For each os/platform, there may be more than one client to choose from. The non beta release clients are known to be more stable and should be considered if adequate attention isn't available or instabilities will have negative impacts on other tasks the hardware is responsible for. Some beta clients are tested less and have a higher risk of failed work units; because of the "experimental" nature of these clients, bonuses are awarded for completed work units.

Depending on what you want to do and what hardware you run, you can utilize different single clients or a combonation of clients.

The gpu client utilizes a small percentage of processing power from a single cpu core while taking advantage of the gpu processing power for folding. The available cpu clients can utilize the remaining processing power. Again, depending on your cpu, a choice of clients are available. For single core processors the choice would be the single core client. For multicore processors you can use either the single or multicore clients. In the case of a single core client on a multicore processor, you can copy the downloaded executable file to multiple folders and run a client on each available core. A client will run on the core that is handling the gpu client, but because it it sharing the core, it will be less productive. The smp client will take advantage of all remaining processor power (all cores) with one client and at this time has a higher ppd value("experimental" nature of the beta with bonuses). If you use a passkey with your folding name, afaik the smp does not support passkeys.

To run the gpu client along with a cpu client(s), program priorities may need to be adjusted to ensure the gpu client gets the cpu time it needs to run. When installing the clients, set the cpu client priority to idle and the gpu client to just above idle. If these settings don't allow the gpu client to run, the process priorities may need to be adjusted in the task manager. When running the gpu client it is best to avoid running programs with high graphics demands. (turn off the gpu client until you are finished)

Downloads can be found here:
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/Download
and Windows high performance beta clients here:
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/DownloadWinOther

Clients and Faq/install page:

Windows Clients:

windows supports 8 clients at the moment, 5 that are beta releases, and 1 backwards compatable.

1. Windows 2000/XP/Vista Graphical client V 5.03
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinGraphicInstall

2. Windows NT/2000/XP/Vista text-only console (with built-in Windows-service-install option) V 5.04
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinConsoleInstall

3. Windows XP/2003/Vista/2008 System tray client w/installer 6.10 Beta 3,
Read this forum post first! http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1459
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinGraphicInstall

4. Windows XP/2003/Vista/2008 Console client (with service install option) V 6.10 Beta 3
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinConsoleInstall

5.Windows: V6 Beta GPU2 Client V 6.12 Beta 8 (ATI 26xx+, nVidia)
read this http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?t=3186)
http://www.stanford.edu/group/pandegroup/cgi-bin/index.php?n=English.FAQ-ATI2

6. Windows XP/2003/Vista/2008 SMP client console V 5.91 Beta 6
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-SMP

7. Windows XP/2003/Vista/2008 SMP client console V 5.92 Beta upgrade from 5.91,
Read this forum post first! http://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1783
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-SMP

8. Windows 98/ME Graphical client V 4.00
(not recommended for Windows 2000, XP, or Vista)
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/WinGraphicInstall

Linux Client:

Linux supports 1 client and at present it only supports 64-bit

1. Linux (x86) and BSD *combined uniprocessor and SMP client* (64-bit required for SMP) V 6.02 (full release)
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/LinConsoleInstallSMP

Mac Clients:

Mac supports 6 clients at present, 2 being beta versions

1. Mac OS X (Intel) SMP OS X 10.4+ V6.10 Beta 2
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/MacSMPInstall

2. Mac OS X (Intel) SMP OS X 10.4+ V 6.02 Beta 2 (console release version)
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/MacSMPInstall

3. Mac OS X Graphical client (PPC) V 5.02
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/MacGraphicInstall

4. Mac OS X (PPC) OS X 10.3+ V 6.01 Beta 2
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/MacGraphicInstall

5. Mac OS X Screensaver (PPC) V 5.02
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/MacOSXScreensaver

6. Mac OS X Text console (PPC) V 5.02
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/MacOSXConsole

PS3 Client:

There is one client available for the Platstation 3

1: Playstation 3 V 1.3.1
http://folding.stanford.edu/English/FAQ-PS3

this will tell you about dual gpu configurations:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=850811&postcount=1440

FAHMon is a useful program for monitoring the progress of your clients.
http://fahmon.net/

There are site's hosting stat pages that provide some interesting data as well.
http://http://kakaostats.com/
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_list.php?s=
Our Team Stats:
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=50711

Something to keep in mind: this will use power and produce heat. If your pc's are in a location where either of these two factors will have a large negative impact, configure the clients to suit what you can manage.

There is a decent amount of information available on Folding, people to share it too:) If you have more questions I'm sure someone can provide some answers :)
Happy Folding :toast:

i_am_mustang_man

06-10-2006, 07:56 PM

joined*

OOTay

06-10-2006, 08:18 PM

how do you join?

Alec§taar

06-10-2006, 09:11 PM

I would like to know the method of joining also, & I will contribute to this project as well!

:)

(You do it when you FIRST start the program, right?)

APK

P.S.=> TIA for info., in advance, & I will try this out myself, why not? I am just getting my SETI@Home "RAC" up a bit this past week, but once that's done?? I'll "kick-in" some contributions for THIS project for this forum's teams... I've always wanted to, because it's a good cause (cancer cure research)! apk

i_am_mustang_man

06-10-2006, 10:00 PM

google folding at home

dl it from a stanford.edu hosted site

when it first boots up, it will ask for your name, and then a team #
put in your tpu sn if you want, and the team code of 50711.

or you can access the team code anytime just by right clicking the tray icon, and hitting configure

username and team name are in the first (farthest left tab) tab. fold away!

OOTay

06-10-2006, 10:11 PM

Thanks!

FLY3R

06-10-2006, 11:36 PM

I just added 2 of my computers to it, Will be adding a Dual proc server, and another 2 sytems..later.

W2hCYK

06-11-2006, 12:36 AM

I'm running 5. :-) my main, my laptop, sisters, downstairs family comp, and a school's dual xeon server, muhahahah.. :-D

If you change your name, WU's wont transfer over, once you finish a WU, its tied to that name. You can change information by right clicking, going to configure, and then changing stuff in there.

I find that these settings work the best.

Advanced Tab:
Core priority: Slightly Higher
Checkpointing Frequency: about half of the slider.
Deadlines: Ignore Deadlines. Dropdown box, Deadlineless. and uncheck the last box.

FLY3R

06-11-2006, 03:07 AM

wazzledoozle

06-11-2006, 03:36 AM

Cool, I've got a 1.1 GHz Via server im gonna be running this on 24/7

OOTay

06-11-2006, 03:56 AM

as soon as i get my new rig, ill be running this on this comp 24/7 which is a 3.06ghz intel.

PVTCaboose1337

06-11-2006, 05:09 AM

Now running 24 / 7 as of the post time...

W2hCYK

06-11-2006, 06:13 AM

I'll give little updates to everybody about team stats.

So far its just me with 2 units. I'm about to finish 4 others. :-) yay for 5 cpu's

I heard the console version runs better? im going to switch to that tonight on my laptop. 30 mins till its done its WU, and if I like console, ill go to console on all the rest as they finish their current WU

PVTCaboose1337

06-11-2006, 03:10 PM

Damn, I am going on only 1 cpu, this is bad... But I will still get some WUs in... I can always at least help.

Solaris17

06-11-2006, 05:19 PM

Joining FTW!!!!

Polaris573

06-11-2006, 08:30 PM

It's giving me an ETA of 208 days for one WU! Is that correct? Not that it really matters, if it takes 200 days to compete a WU I'm game.

OOTay

06-11-2006, 08:40 PM

it will speed up...

Baum

06-11-2006, 08:48 PM

Alec§taar

06-11-2006, 10:49 PM

See subject line!

:)

* I have to see how high I can drag my SETI@Home "RAC" (recent average credit) score on SETI with this new rig of mine (see signature for specs) vs. how high I was able to on my other/2nd/older rig (P4 3.2ghz)...

(It ought to be interesting, because most of the "optimized clients" (ones done by independent coders with diff. compilers & geared to speedup the processing speed of the native/oem model of SETI@Home & BOINC) are geared to Intel CPU's due to the optimizing compilers utilized, like Intel's 9.0 compiler with the IPP 4.1 floating point libs...)

The optimized client programs really do tend to give intel rigs an advantage, believe it or not, over AMD cpu's... so, I want to see "what's-what" here on that account.

Even though AMD CPU's are FAR in advance of Intel ones on Floating Point calculation abilities (the SETI@Home internal benchmark evidences this alone), Intel CPU's tend to do better on SETI @ least.

Given the difference in power overall on my newer rig, vs. my 3 year older system? I want to see what the diff. will be between the 2 systems, on the same project & data more or less...

APK

P.S.=> Once I'm done seeing the results on that? I'll be on this team for this...

OH, IMPORTANT QUESTION: ARE THERE OPTIMIZED CLIENTS FOR FOLDING@HOME, like there are for SETI@Home? TIA! apk

Solaris17

06-12-2006, 01:46 AM

Sorry I have no clue about your posting, i'm running an 800Mhz VIA Server as a File Server that's all and as far as i read it look simillar to seti@home.
So if you need some more CPU Power i could join but you have to say at least because of what.
THX

its studying how proteins combine/react etc.... and all the info is used for a bunch of things mosty big deseises like Cancer H.I.V. and stuff like Parkinsins. the proteins affect all of this so every protein we crank out info for is used to find a cure for 1 or all of the diseses folding at home is looking at.

Solaris17

06-12-2006, 01:51 AM

why does it just say one name no one else shows up thats pretty gay..:(

even if we havent done alot our processors should be recorded.

PVTCaboose1337

06-12-2006, 01:58 AM

I know, I have done 2600 frames... why do I not show up! I have to complete a work unit... :(

W2hCYK

06-12-2006, 02:27 AM

PVTCaboose1337

06-12-2006, 02:36 AM

Cus solaris is a haxor and haxed.

PVTCaboose1337

06-12-2006, 02:41 AM

I also was using the graphical, switching to console...

PVTCaboose1337

06-12-2006, 03:43 AM

W2hCYK

06-12-2006, 03:48 AM

when you first start, you can set options, when you get to the point of asking for "Advanced Options" type in yes

then it will ask to run as a system task at boot up.

if that doesnt work(doesnt on my laptop) then google for "Setting programs for startup" in google.

PVTCaboose1337

06-12-2006, 04:41 AM

No, not that, but... I want it to be by my clock, you know, in the icon tray down on the start bar...

W2hCYK

06-12-2006, 05:19 AM

idk how to do that. I dont think you can do it with console. i think its just with visual..

FLY3R

06-12-2006, 06:37 AM

idk how to do that. I dont think you can do it with console. i think its just with visual..

Yes only with visual.

Its great to see every one jumping on this, its for a great casue, KEEP UP the folding, nice work every one!!

Polaris573

06-12-2006, 07:25 AM

I tried the linux console. Every time I started the program it downloaded a new WU. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, I'll have to play with it some more.

Alec§taar

06-12-2006, 10:12 AM

See subject line: I asked this last page, but got no reply (but, I wrote it in on an "edit" so, it could easily have been overlooked during the page-to-page transition with others posting)...

Guys, is there an OPTIMIZED CLIENT for this project, as there is for SETI@Home?

Meaning, others that took its BASE sourcecode, & ran it thru better optimizing compilers, & for certain CPU's &/or instruction sets, via better compilers (especially for floating point/fpops oriented data, which this like SETI, probably is as well mostly, rather than integer oriented data types) &/or tweaks to the code line inlined asm code use, or other "tricks" (e.g. instead of div commands, iirc, shr2 does it faster for example).

AND, since many of you are performance fiends here?

Well, it may be something for us ALL to know - this type of work done by 3rd parties to the stock codebase (via compilers AND hand-tuning) made HUGE diff.'s in seti processing times for me, for example, so... I am interested in this point.

:)

* This 'dovetails' into the points about the character/console/tty mode client being FASTER than the pure graphical gui client options... it's true in SETI@Home as well, bigtime (less overheads).

TIA for the info. on this guys!

APK

PVTCaboose1337

06-12-2006, 01:04 PM

WOW! The console is MUCH faster than the graphical...

Alec§taar

06-12-2006, 01:17 PM

WOW! The console is MUCH faster than the graphical...

Want to try an experiment?

If you have a DualCore CPU (especially this type, vs. H/T stuff), try to set the calculating process' to HIGH (or possibly REALTIME, because this doesn't lockup dualcore/SMP, or H-T rigs as it would a single CPU rig) first, & see if it "ups" its processing speed (improves it).

Also - If this project does more than 1 unit @ a time, & I believe it can via the -local switch, & running diff. instances of it out of diff. folders on disk?

Setting processor affinities MAY help as well... because you can additionally set it to a certain CPU core, AND up its timeslice/priority allotment as well!

APK

P.S.=> I do that very set of things on SETI@Home, which usually runs while I am away from home (work mostly) or sleeping etc.!

That is with EVERYTHING else possible, 'cranked off', including the explorer.exe shell itself, all services possible (etc. just enough to keep me online) as well, & other backgrounded apps... that's so the calculating/workhorse portion gets as much CPU as possible!

Theory sometimes, really works, depending on HOW the app itself is coded (not much timeslicing/multitasking calls which sometimes is considered bad practice & I agree @ times), & how much the process can actually 'suck up' CPU cycles-wise! apk

Solaris17

06-12-2006, 02:15 PM

You have to do a whole work unit, and then it takes about 1 to 2 hours to update the system.

Work units finish faster with the console vs. visual. I'd recommend that everyone get the console instead. It runs as a background task if you choose to.

I'm going to put the stats link in the first post.

Stats update for now:

W2hCYK: Points: 724, Work Units: 4
Solaris: Points: 1, Work Units: 1

Solaris, why 1 pt for 1 WU? lol..

because i didnt crunch over night my parents are in the room next to mine and the wall was built its like 1/4 of an inch thik and my comp it load as shit and wakes them up. o ya and they see the light from my fan my uncle has been wicked pissed to because he works out in the rain not a good time to do it at night. i will be thuogh i feel really strong about this shit i need another 10ft ethernet cable and my server (466mhz beast) will be crunching all night Solaris17 for a total of 2 cpu's.

gygabite

06-12-2006, 02:27 PM

Wow, those protein molecules look awesome!

Thermopylae_480

06-12-2006, 04:19 PM

Seems like CPU life will be significantly reduced since it will be running at 100% all day long.

Polaris573

06-12-2006, 04:50 PM

Seems like CPU life will be significantly reduced since it will be running at 100% all day long.

Only if you have heat problems. There is only a five degree differnence between my CPU at idle and under load so I'm not too concerned.

May I suggest that this Thread be made into a sticky so new forum members will know about the team?

W2hCYK

06-12-2006, 10:57 PM

Can i get a cool little name under my username for F@H guy? hahaha.. jk.

Not like it matters, we'll all have new cpu's in 2 years, lol

FLY3R

06-13-2006, 06:26 AM

Can i get a cool little name under my username for F@H guy? hahaha.. jk.

I actualy dont think thats a bad idea, It would be nice to have an icon under your name if your a frequent folder, kinda like a friendly compation for rank. Just to show other people and new mebers might get inspiered to start folding.

wazzledoozle

06-13-2006, 06:30 AM

Stickied. If anyone has a spare socket A cpu I will throw it in a rig and fold with it 24/7

i_am_mustang_man

06-13-2006, 05:08 PM

wow, i looked away from this thread for 3 days tops, and whoa!! this is awesome! i'm getting my gf's comp running it 24/7 and my laptop too, both 2.8 p4 so that'll be chill. F@H!!!

W2hCYK

06-13-2006, 05:38 PM

solaris, whats going on with your work units? 14 points for 4 units? lol...

Set your settings to what I said in the first post, it will let you accept bigger WU's, worth more points.

FLY3R

06-13-2006, 11:25 PM

Just added another 3.2 gHz cpu Rig and 2.8gHz cpu Rig, folding 24/7.

W2hCYK

06-14-2006, 12:37 AM

w00t for you!!! how long do you think till we break 1k WU's? lol.. :-)

FLY3R

06-14-2006, 12:40 AM

w00t for you!!! how long do you think till we break 1k WU's? lol.. :-)

It will be a long time, but if we get 100+ people Folding for a great casue, then we could reach that pretty fast. I think we should make a section on the forums dedicated to this.

W2hCYK

06-14-2006, 01:34 AM

Yea that would be really neat, we could have everyone post the specs of their system in threads, or have a main thread with a super huge poll with system specs to see what we all have.

Fold on! ;-)

PVTCaboose1337

06-14-2006, 01:36 AM

That would be great! My comp is running the prog on and off... I will make 1 WU at 2AM tomoro!

W2hCYK

06-14-2006, 01:51 AM

I added another celeron 2.4GHz and my friends Opteron 165 Denmark @ 3GHz, w00t

**scratch the denmark, he thinks F@H is stupid, and he says he wants to use his computer for rendering videos at night, not folding, but I told him that rendering uses one core, not both, but he doesnt care so yea... lol..

PVTCaboose1337

06-14-2006, 03:30 AM

You are crazy, how many comps do you have going?! At least this is helping humanity...

W2hCYK

06-14-2006, 03:58 AM

lol..

I have my laptop, desktop, sisters desktop, school's xeon, downstairs computer, stupid crap celeron, and i would have had my friends, agh! lol...

FLY3R

06-14-2006, 04:33 AM

lol..

I have my laptop, desktop, sisters desktop, school's xeon, downstairs computer, stupid crap celeron, and i would have had my friends, agh! lol...

That Xeon must be producing WU like crazy, WOOT!!

W2hCYK

06-14-2006, 05:23 AM

I have yet to see a WU from it, so I'm hoping its working, i'm able to get into the room that its in tomorrow, so I'll have a look, but tomorrow is the only day I can get in there until never again, lol.. I'm transferring schools next year, never going to see it again, i'm hoping they leave it on over the summer, hahaha.. ;-)

FLY3R

06-14-2006, 04:24 PM

lol, how come you can only go into that room once,lol..

Any way, in-order to get a thread designated for Folding@Home, I think we should talk to Wizzard. One of us should PM him.

W2hCYK

06-14-2006, 08:09 PM

ill pm him,

and the reason i cant get into it anymore is because its the server for the lower part of the school, and its in the room that used to be my homeroom before classes. now we're taking exams, and i cant get into my "homeroom" anymore because we go right to the exam class.

didnt get to go to it today either, we had a morning assembly.. :-\

wazzledoozle

06-14-2006, 11:26 PM

This IS the thread for F@H...

W2hCYK

06-15-2006, 02:18 AM

not just a thread, a subtopic/forum is what I think they mean, and thats what I asked W1zzard about.

FLY3R

06-15-2006, 04:44 AM

not just a thread, a subtopic/forum is what I think they mean, and thats what I asked W1zzard about.

Yeah, that would be awsome, and it would bring much needed attention to Folding@Home.

By the way what school do you go to, im asking because i went to a school and they called them homerooms and they have a dual Exon server in there.

W2hCYK

06-15-2006, 12:13 PM

im transferring from a stupid private school, st rose.. agh i hate it!!!

FLY3R

06-15-2006, 03:29 PM

yeah private schools are good for the education and teachers, thats about it, i graduated from mine thankfuly. Well good luck with the new venturs.

W2hCYK

06-15-2006, 04:42 PM

omfg they are not, all the teachers suck and the education is soo poor, theres such a lack of classes, and i hate it so much, i explained this to my mom, thats why I'm transferring.

I'm not catholic either, and its a catholic school, i HAVE to use my electives on 2 religion courses, but when i transfer next year, i'm going to take digital photography and music theory.

they have forensics and such as well

**Kflyer, your in 1st on the team, haha.. what 4 cpu's do you have?

W2hCYK

06-15-2006, 06:34 PM

Hrm. too bad html is turned off, or I could run the HTML code right to the forum for live stats showing on this thread's first post. :-P

PVTCaboose1337

06-16-2006, 01:42 AM

You can use HTML to the post, not to the sig... Or maybe pm w1z to enable it for you in your sig...

W2hCYK

06-16-2006, 03:31 AM

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Thats what it says in the bottom left of this page. I have the HTML saved, so if it happens to come on, i'll pop in the stats update.

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<TD><b>Date of last work unit</b></TD>

<TD align=left> 2006-06-15 07:15:04 </TD>

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<TD><b>Active CPUs within 50 days</b></TD>

<TD align=left> 13 </TD>

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<TD><b>Team Id</b></TD>

<TD align=left> 50711 </TD>

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<TD><b>Grand Score</b></TD>

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3667

(<A href="http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/tcert.php?u=50711&pts=3667" target="_blank">certificate</A>)

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28

(<A href="http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/tcert.php?u=50711&pts=28&t=wus&bg=4" target="_blank">certificate</A>)

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<TD align=left> 10265 of 44364</TD>

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<TD align=left> <a href=http://www.techpowerup.com/> http://www.techpowerup.com/ </a> </TD>

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<TD><a href="main.py?qtype=userpage&teamnum=50711&username=Kfly3r"> Kfly3r </a> </TD>

<TD><a href="http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Kfly3r&pts=1520" target="_blank"> 1520 </a> </TD>

<TD><a href="http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Kfly3r&pts=9&t=wus&bg=3" target="_blank"> 9 </a> </TD>

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<TD><a href="main.py?qtype=userpage&teamnum=50711&username=W2hCYK"> W2hCYK </a> </TD>

<TD><a href="http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=W2hCYK&pts=1349" target="_blank"> 1349 </a> </TD>

<TD><a href="http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=W2hCYK&pts=10&t=wus&bg=3" target="_blank"> 10 </a> </TD>

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<TD><a href="main.py?qtype=userpage&teamnum=50711&username=i%5Fam%5Fmustang%5Fman"> i_am_mustang_man </a> </TD>

<TD><a href="http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=i_am_mustang_man&pts=544" target="_blank"> 544 </a> </TD>

<TD><a href="http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=i_am_mustang_man&pts=4&t=wus&bg=3" target="_blank"> 4 </a> </TD>

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<TD><a href="main.py?qtype=userpage&teamnum=50711&username=wtf8269"> wtf8269 </a> </TD>

<TD><a href="http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=wtf8269&pts=241" target="_blank"> 241 </a> </TD>

<TD><a href="http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=wtf8269&pts=1&t=wus&bg=3" target="_blank"> 1 </a> </TD>

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<TD><a href="main.py?qtype=userpage&teamnum=50711&username=Solaris17"> Solaris17 </a> </TD>

<TD><a href="http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Solaris17&pts=13" target="_blank"> 13 </a> </TD>

<TD><a href="http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=Solaris17&pts=4&t=wus&bg=3" target="_blank"> 4 </a> </TD>

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Thats for anyone who wants to give it a shot at posting.

PVTCaboose1337

06-16-2006, 03:58 AM

Oh yeah, I see it sry. PM w1z!

Steevo

06-16-2006, 04:25 AM

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=108334

I left the team I was on as the site was becoming a bunch of retarded assholes. I have a little to contribute. :D

Steevo

06-16-2006, 04:27 AM

Won't be till next week that I can get going prolly on all of them though. Or mebey I could go in and change all the configurations to this team.

FLY3R

06-16-2006, 05:08 AM

Won't be till next week that I can get going prolly on all of them though. Or mebey I could go in and change all the configurations to this team.

This is Awsome Steevo, glade your ready to start producing those WU for TPU!! I recently am going through ISP changes and will not have a router for a bit, so my folding is also going to slow down.

**Kflyer, your in 1st on the team, haha.. what 4 cpu's do you have?

rig#1- 3700+ @ 2.6gHz
rig 2 & 3 are P4 @ 3.2gHz each.
One of them has DDR2 witch helps for he larger WU
rig# 4 is a 2.8 gHz IBM

I ll be adding a few more P4 later on when my modem is back.

wazzledoozle

06-16-2006, 05:25 AM

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=108334

I left the team I was on as the site was becoming a bunch of retarded assholes. I have a little to contribute. :D
I got banned from EOCF. The admins there are a bunch of Nazi's :shadedshu

Welcome to TPU@Home :toast:

FLY3R

06-16-2006, 05:38 AM

Dang Steevo earlyer i just glanced at your Folding, but now that i had a better read, wow, how many comps do you, or should i say had folding.

gygabite

06-16-2006, 03:44 PM

Wow, i got 202 points :D

W2hCYK

06-16-2006, 07:01 PM

yay gigabite!

FLY3R

06-16-2006, 11:11 PM

lol tell any one you know to Fold and also if you are a Folder, every one put what i have in my sig exactly like it, if every one has an icon about folding and it is seen in other threads it will get more attention, so please if you are an active folder put "Fold for Tech Power Up!!" like mine in your sig.

magibeg

06-16-2006, 11:41 PM

Well i figure just for kicks i'll start folding too! I notice though, its only doing 50% of my cpu. Probably a hyperthreading issue there somewhere. And woot just noticed 40,000 out of 4,000,000 steps or something... long way to go

Jimmy 2004

06-16-2006, 11:56 PM

I can't normally seem to get work - from the console version I just keep getting "Error: Attempt #x to get work failed, and no other work to do."

Anyone know how to fix this. I can't find anything useful on Google, I've allowed port 8080 through my firewall and my internet is working fine. I can even ping the server which it tries to connect to, I just can't get work.

W2hCYK

06-17-2006, 04:42 AM

erase everything, make a whole new folder with the .exe in it and go from there

FLY3R

06-17-2006, 05:25 AM

woooh hooo, Where folding like crazy, keep it up guys, and put that wording in your sig so more people will see it.

W2hCYK

06-17-2006, 06:00 AM

Wow you're knocking the pants off everyone with those WU's. I'm heading off to bermuda now(random i know), so all my cpu's will be unlimited F@H access for 7 days straight. Looking forward to seeing how I rank next week, haha.. Adios everyone!

FLY3R

06-17-2006, 07:57 AM

Have fun! We will see, i wont have a modem in a little bit so it will be touch and go.

gygabite

06-17-2006, 08:43 AM

magibeg

06-17-2006, 05:40 PM

Just noticed theres a lot of teams that seem to have been doing this for a very long time :-O Need to fold hard and long to catch up!

FLY3R

06-18-2006, 02:22 AM

Just noticed theres a lot of teams that seem to have been doing this for a very long time :-O Need to fold hard and long to catch up!

Now thats the Idea.

I got the Internet back so my Farm is back up and Folding. :)

wazzledoozle

06-18-2006, 02:32 AM

Got my 160 gb drive for my server, will set it up later tonight :)

FLY3R

06-18-2006, 08:10 AM

Got my 160 gb drive for my server, will set it up later tonight :)

Nice, what are the specs?

wazzledoozle

06-18-2006, 08:22 AM

Nice, what are the specs?
Via 1.1 gigapro, 256mb of ram. Nothing special, just very low power consumption and silent.

Jimmy 2004

06-18-2006, 10:58 AM

Found out my problem I posted earlier is firewall related - I can connect when I use DMZ on my router. The problem is I can't work out which ports to forward, I've tried both 80 and 8080 with no success. If no one can help I'm going to have to give up already :(.

Polaris573

06-18-2006, 04:09 PM

Have you tried asking for help on the folding@home forums? Those people would be more familiar with the progam than we would.

Jimmy 2004

06-18-2006, 07:36 PM

Have you tried asking for help on the folding@home forums? Those people would be more familiar with the progam than we would.

I will post - all the other forums I've looked at with people having my problems never get a result other than the server being down, and I know that's not the problem. Anyway, I'll give it a go, I'd really like to contribute my spare MHz.

magibeg

06-18-2006, 07:43 PM

What size folding projects do you guys normally get, my first one was 4,000,000 and now my second one is 20,000,000 so big :S. Wonder how a conroe would do in this situation. it certainly makes my prescott chug along pretty good.

Alec§taar

06-18-2006, 07:49 PM

& Hello Folding@Home!

:)

* It'll be cool joining this team's forums for it, because most folks here have one heck of a powerful system - & that ought to translate out to many results units generated (for a potentially great cause).

Once more - The reason(s) for my delay in joining was simple:

A.) I wanted to see how HIGH of a SETI@Home "RAC" (recent average credit) granted per unit I could get outta this AMD rig, vs. the older Intel P4 3.2ghz 2nd machine I keep here (was my primary unit before this one & is now relegated to server-work only)

&

B.) To see how far I can get into my teams "top computers" rankings (made it as high as 12 w/ my P4 before, & this time I can't seem to crack the top 25 w/ an undoubtedly superior CPU in my AMD now).

Also, what I am finding is, on these types of projects (because I also view them as a long-term benchmark as well as being decent pursuits):

1.) Intel CPU's do seem to do better, & these types of projects are cpu-cycles dependent (& it seemed that even though the P4 only has 512kb of L2 cache on it, its 800mhz superior clock outweighs L2 cache amounts, because my AMD has 4 times that (2mb shared between the dual cores present), but runs @ 2.4ghz)...

&

2.) That the compilers out there for software DO tend to favor Intel CPU's, over AMD ones (this is widely known @ SETI@Home) & optimize custom clients for their work better...

Even though AMD cpu's blow AWAY Intel ones in the Fpop (floating point) ALU fpop superiority, & also have more L2 cache by far than a Pentium 4 does, which SHOULD matter here (the built-in seti benchmarks prove this every time)?

Intel cpu's still win out, & it's due to optimized clients being better for them as well as more mhz, because the compilers used apparently are geared more to Intel CPU's. It's GOT to be this, what else could it be?

(E.G.-> The AMD cpu I have here knocks the you-know-what outta my older Intel P4, hands-down on every test there is, including SETI@Home's built-in benchmark, but the results show quite the opposite oddly enough!)

It probably will be the case for FAH as well, but no biggie (because I heard its units aren't as "uniform" in their finish times either as are the SETI ones, which also aren't always "the same" each time they finish either, but tend to not vary as widely as finish times are concerned)...

APK

P.S.=> I do wish, however, that somebody did an "optimized client" for FAH!

The optimized custom client build types that optimize for various instruction sets (floating point processing stuff usually, via MMX, 3dNow, SSE/SSE2/SSE3) DO run massively faster & are JUST AS ACCURATE, @ least in SETI@home + far faster & just more efficient...apk

FLY3R

06-18-2006, 10:12 PM

P.S.=> I do wish, however, that somebody did an "optimized client" for FAH!

The optimized custom client build types that optimize for various instruction sets (floating point processing stuff usually, via MMX, 3dNow, SSE/SSE2/SSE3) DO run massively faster & are JUST AS ACCURATE, @ least in SETI@home + far faster & just more efficient...apk

I hate to relay you to another forum that i was banned from, i hate to do it, put becuase it is such a great Soruce of Information about F@H here it is: http://www.overclock.net/faqs/30105-opinion-complete-folding-guide-getting-most.html#post313828

I hate that place because the moderaters are a bunch of soul less people and they banned me becuase of some one's else actions, anyways thats a good guid. And the person that wrote it is cool so i decided to post it.

Alec§taar

06-18-2006, 10:48 PM

I hate to relay you to another forum that i was banned from, i hate to do it, put becuase it is such a great Soruce of Information about F@H here it is: http://www.overclock.net/faqs/30105-opinion-complete-folding-guide-getting-most.html#post313828

Hey, thanks man... I appreciate it, as it will save me time in having to "manually experiment/learn" on my own.

I hate that place because the moderaters are a bunch of soul less people and they banned me becuase of some one's else actions, anyways thats a good guid. And the person that wrote it is cool so i decided to post it.

Ah, don't worry about it: It's happened to me before too & it makes me laugh!

(I.E.-> If forums mods have to resort to that? They didn't win a thing, & odds are you were getting the better of THEM, not the reverse! And, in order for dolts of THAT "calibre" to save their face? They "ban" you... about as effective as a wet paper towel as a barrier, to anyone that knows what they're doing IP-wise)

* Sometimes & I am certain you may agree here on this note? It's deserved, but it's best to watch them nuke themselves in the end & they ALWAYS do...

APK

P.S.=> Edited: I was "p.o.'d" today (hey, it happens, we all do it) when I wrote it (Bad day, you don't want to know, & I do NOT want to get into it, lol!)... apk

FLY3R

06-19-2006, 03:53 AM

Ah, don't worry about it: It's happened to me before too & it makes me laugh!

(I.E.-> If forums mods have to resort to that? They didn't win a thing, & odds are you were getting the better of THEM, not the reverse! And, in order for dolts of THAT "calibre" to save their face? They "ban" you... about as effective as a wet paper towel as a barrier, to anyone that knows what they're doing IP-wise)

In some cases, in my experience, some were just lucky their site didn't get "shut off" (mysteriously), or suddenly over time, attendance drops SHARPLY...

LOL!

I can't outright admit to having done that one before here, because it's just not prudent (if you catch my drift)

BUT, sometimes? You HAVE to 'school lesser mortals' & all that - & just to teach the dolts out there a lesson or two & to show their member constituency just what can be what, & who can get the better of whom, with ease...

* Sometimes & I am certain you may agree here on this note? It's deserved, but it's best to watch them nuke themselves in the end & they ALWAYS do...

APK

Well Said, i agree. Im glade that helps. :)

POGE

06-19-2006, 03:59 AM

I hate to relay you to another forum that i was banned from, i hate to do it, put becuase it is such a great Soruce of Information about F@H here it is: http://www.overclock.net/faqs/30105-opinion-complete-folding-guide-getting-most.html#post313828

I hate that place because the moderaters are a bunch of soul less people and they banned me becuase of some one's else actions, anyways thats a good guid. And the person that wrote it is cool so i decided to post it.
I have to agree with you 100% there they banned me and a bunch of my closest friends (about 10 members of their forum) for starting our own forum. Then they had their members spam our forum. Overclock.net treated me like shit and I will never, ever go there again. I had over 3000 posts there, and they wasted a lot of my time. They didnt even warn me. They are the strictest site I have ever been on, and they have a warning system, where if you get 20 points you get banned. Spelling errors get you 1 point. Isnt that silly? Sorry for my rant. :)

magibeg

06-19-2006, 05:54 PM

I just noticed that TPU still hasn't recognized my 1 completed WU that finished on sunday afternnon. How long does it normally take to show up?

Alec§taar

06-19-2006, 06:11 PM

I just noticed that TPU still hasn't recognized my 1 completed WU that finished on sunday afternnon. How long does it normally take to show up?

From what I have read/understood from BRIEFLY looking about on the SETI@Home forums (they discuss other BOINC projects as well & this one as well)?

The finish times on this one tend to "fluctuate" a LOT more than SETI@Home ones do... more variation in finish time & just not as "consistent"...

APK

P.S.=> Now, I could be wrong, because I am operating on "hearsay" here, but that is what I got out of my brief readings about it online from other forums etc.... apk

Alec§taar

06-19-2006, 06:15 PM

Im glade that helps. :)

It will, hopefully!

And, anything to aid in my finding (hopefully) an AMD & Intel optimized set of recompiles for THIS project... as I will be contributing to this forum's teams SHORTLY!

(Most of this week, I am trying to break into the Microsoft Team top 20 (been there before on my Intel rig, score was 453 iirc, & now I am @ 367 "rac" on my AMD rig... have to run it the rest of this week to break into TEAM Microsoft TOP 20 list once more, or, see if I can with my AMD rig here))

I have a AMD SETI@Home SSE2/3 instruction optimized client, but typically & I think I mentioned it here earlier?

AMD cpu's, though superior in L2 cache bearing over my P4 3.2ghz & also having better Floating Point capabilities, for SOME reason, don't do as well as Intel ones do (I went into why I think so earlier here iirc i.e.-> mhz less on AMD, & also compilers used tended to favor Intel chips).

Well Said, i agree.

Well, it upset me to see others being treated that way as well!

Like I said above - I know what it's like (and, you don't seem like an offensive dork either, but a decent person imo), & especially when you DAMN WELL KNOW you are not "in the wrong"...

The funniest part is? It is VERY SIMPLE to skirt most forums bans... or, worse. IMO, it's more of an effort NOT to "retaliate"...

APK

P.S.=> What works best is, find another & better forums! It's the safest & best thing to do... There are PLENTY of good forums out there! Whoever banned you must think they are "the only show in town"... lol! apk

FLY3R

06-19-2006, 07:52 PM

Well, it upset me to see others being treated that way as well!

Like I said above - I know what it's like (and, you don't seem like an offensive dork either, but a decent person imo), & especially when you DAMN WELL KNOW you are not "in the wrong"...

The funniest part is? It is VERY SIMPLE to skirt most forums bans... or, worse. IMO, it's more of an effort NOT to "retaliate"...

APK

P.S.=> What works best is, find another & better forums! It's the safest & best thing to do... There are PLENTY of good forums out there! Whoever banned you must think they are "the only show in town"... lol! apk

Thanks buddy! :)

Now Every one lets get those CPUs folding, start telling other ppl in the froums, and by the way this is the best forum and i plane to contribute for a long time.

FLY3R

06-20-2006, 03:58 AM

So whats the deal about getting a section for Folding@Home on the main threads page? W2hCYK Did you ask Wizz yeat??

POGE

06-20-2006, 04:22 AM

If I remember correctly I asked w1zz about a TPU folding team a few months back and he wasnt for it. Not sure, but thats what I recall. So I wouldnt count on anything official.

FLY3R

06-20-2006, 06:06 AM

If I remember correctly I asked w1zz about a TPU folding team a few months back and he wasnt for it. Not sure, but thats what I recall. So I wouldnt count on anything official.

Ohhh, alright, well bummer :( , wow your post is #100:cool: .

Alec§taar

06-20-2006, 06:30 AM

See title/subject line: You can BANK on it, that I will be on this team doing FOLDING@Home, by Saturday this upcoming weekend, sometime...

:)

* Giving SETI@Home my last run this week.... seeing how far AMD CPU I have will "push its rac score" vs. the scores I know I obtained on my P4 3.2ghz Intel unit!

(Only thing still holding to SETI@Home is seeing that comparison happen here, as I mention here in this thread earlier!)

APK

FLY3R

06-20-2006, 06:39 AM

Alec§taar

06-20-2006, 06:54 AM

Sweet!! How many rigs will you have folding and are they going to be 24/7? :)

This one, in my signature, for starters... the other will be my Pentium 4 3.2ghz!

They'll be largely on, all-the-time most likely/as-per-usual.

:)

(Evidence thereof @ this URL below)

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8294882&show_all=1&sort=rpc_time

* The "DoomsDay Machine & RUSH 2112"...

APK

P.S.=> They ought to make a fine set of contributors imo, because they BOTH do great SETI scores, landing me in Microsoft's "top 13 (P4) -25 (AMD, so far)" of 1217 (they are #51 on chart of ALL teams as well, good company (Figureatively, as in "MS rocks", & literally in terms of the power of the machines (& legions of them @ that team)))... apk

Steevo

06-20-2006, 05:56 PM

Make this a official TPU thing and I will start adding my systems.

18 systems and over a terraflop of processor power a day. Average system spec 2.4Ghz Intel 512Mb RAM 14 hours of unloaded time and 25-70% load for the other.

Then my systems at home.

Jimmy 2004

06-20-2006, 06:57 PM

Steevo

06-20-2006, 07:17 PM

System-Network Admin.

wazzledoozle

06-20-2006, 08:09 PM

FLY3R

06-20-2006, 11:55 PM

Ok, I declare it official. Now get your beasts folding :)

lol.

dANG Steevo that kinda Knarly don't you think.. Great to have you aboard, now get folding!!!

Steevo

06-21-2006, 01:20 AM

Just didn't want to start all my systems an waste a few hours so we could be told to go away. Plus I have spent $$$ on coolers for a few systems so I could run this, and am needing to spend another $60 on a cooler for our server 3.8Ghz Intel machine, built by meh.

SO after I did all that the mods at the last place started becoming dicks. Essentially I have had too much bullshit handed my way this year. So unless we get official TPU-W1zzard backing hand over a few greenbacks so I don't waste my time and money, again.

FLY3R

06-21-2006, 05:29 AM

BigD6997

06-22-2006, 12:37 AM

just joined!

FLY3R

06-22-2006, 05:56 AM

just joined!

Awsome!! :)

Did you add your main rig or are there others?

wazzledoozle

06-22-2006, 06:07 AM

Steevo

06-22-2006, 06:37 AM

I'm not asking for a handout. I have no problem supporting the team with a few, but if you guys want a full barrage of what I have got, I would like to see the "team" recognised by the site. Or a few greenbacks to buy the HS/F so I can fold with our server. :D

BigD6997

06-22-2006, 09:25 AM

Awsome!! :)

Did you add your main rig or are there others?
my main rig is not always on... i added the dell in my other room thats always on.. its a p4 1.7ghz beast :rolleyes: , but it folds non stop, im only on it when i need to post or look at sumthin when my main rig is being assembled or disassembled modded w.e

BigD6997

06-22-2006, 09:28 AM

humm it doesnt show me on it yet... wierd

Jimmy 2004

06-22-2006, 12:12 PM

humm it doesnt show me on it yet... wierd

Don't think it shows you until you've completed at least one wu.

BigD6997

06-22-2006, 08:24 PM

FLY3R

06-23-2006, 01:19 AM

oh ok well im at 910/1000 frames on my first W/U and its only been a day so woooo....:D

god i hate this computer i used to use it as a cs:s server but then i had to move it into my brothers room and put it on wireless internet... that doesnt do good stuff for ping :mad: ... so its now nonstop folding!

Yeah wireless is crap for a nonstop signal. Thats why i took my moms modem and gave her wirless becuase it doesn't cut out on her and she dosen't do anything besides E-Mail and surf the web. bah.

magibeg

06-23-2006, 01:35 AM

Folding seems like it takes forever sometimes. Chugging along on 2 folding projects at once because of hyper threading and i'm about 41 and 36% done each one. 20 million is a big number to step up to :S

Jimmy 2004

06-23-2006, 12:04 PM

Yeah wireless is crap for a nonstop signal. Thats why i took my moms modem and gave her wirless becuase it doesn't cut out on her and she dosen't do anything besides E-Mail and surf the web. bah.

Lol. I'm really pleased with my Belkin Wireless stuff now - haven't had one signal drop in the two months I've had it now and whenever I run ping tests I get 100% completion. The only problem is sometimes the ping can jump from 2-3ms to 700ms once every now and again. Still good for online gaming most of the time. :)

Alec§taar

06-23-2006, 04:14 PM

Well, I told myself Saturday would be the mark where I transition away from doing SETI@Home into Folding@Home...

:)

* Tomorrow's that day.

(I'll be seeing you all on the FAH team @ some point then!)

APK

P.S.=> I did an experiment, to compare Intel CPU processing times vs. those of AMD for SETI@Home, by now ONLY running SETI on my AMD here.

And, that said?

It seems I can't break past #22 (of 1271 members total iirc) into the top 20 for "SETI@Home - Team Microsoft":

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_display.php?teamid=26482&sort_by=expavg_credit&offset=20

Mainly because I am only running 1 of my systems doing it of 2 possible here (I can't surpass guys with farms of machines doing it, like Steevo here is doing for THIS project for this team, big asset imo)...

My Intel rig got me up to 453 "rac" (recent avg. credit score) whereas my AMD now, even though it is FAR superior in Floating Point ops (via SETI benchmark), is falling short @ ~ 411 tops... this indicates a 10% difference so far, in favor of Intel CPU's using optimized clients, & yes, I am using a SSE3 optimized AMD client too!

Could not find such a recompile for specific cpu's for FAH though... @ least not so far.

My current AMD in my signature (fast as it is, & on MOST things, faster than my Intel P4 3.2ghz) is not outperforming my Intel older rig in it & I gave it PLENTY of time to show what it can do by way of comparison in SETI...

Again: Compiler code optimization for optimized clients is showing thru in favor of Intel.

Anyhow - I did my "experiment" & it is a fitting way to close off 7 years on/off doing SETI@Home & transitioning into FAH!

See you in the a.m. people... apk

Jimmy 2004

06-23-2006, 05:47 PM

Well, it now seems to work even with the firewall up so I am joining you guys folding at last! I'll probably also try to put my folks 2.2GHz Celeron on sometime because that seems to always be left on when it's not being used.

Steevo

06-24-2006, 01:42 AM

I added one and will be running config on the others tomorrow for a total of about 15.

I need to buy a new http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=373500

For the fucking server at work. I built it and it works a little too good for data serving, but runs too hot for my taste with the stock cooler with F@H. And my machine will not be joining the race, but I have a couple others here that will.

W2hCYK

06-24-2006, 03:12 PM

I'm back! weee.... great trip!

and great to see that alot of people are folding for us! Keep it going guys!!!

Alec§taar

06-24-2006, 08:59 PM

I'm back! weee.... great trip!

and great to see that alot of people are folding for us! Keep it going guys!!!

Finishing my "AMD vs. INTEL" cpu/SETI@Home 'experiment/comparison' today, & will be on this team by nightfall doing Folding@Home...

:)

APK

FLY3R

06-25-2006, 02:29 AM

Nice to see that you will be joinging us Steevo! Great guys were getting alot more folders. And AlecStaar glade to see you joing the ranks soon.

Alec§taar

06-25-2006, 03:06 AM

Ok, guys... I know I said I would join up Folding@Home TODAY, but I am now @ #21 on my team here, & want to break-into the "top 20" again:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/team_display.php?teamid=26482&sort_by=expavg_credit&offset=20

:)

* Would anyone be upset if I took 1 more day to join, just (lol) so I can get the screenshot of it? Yea, I know, lol... but, I want it!

APK

P.S.=> I don't think anyone will mind my taking a LITTLE LONGER to join this team here, but I think it is the "polite/cool" thing to do, because of what I said earlier... IMO, I have a decent motive for delay here! apk

magibeg

06-25-2006, 03:22 AM

You disappoint me alec, making us wait like this! Think of the poor proteins that need folding :cry:

Alec§taar

06-25-2006, 03:27 AM

You disappoint me alec, making us wait like this! Think of the poor proteins that need folding :cry:

Ah, but... I am SO CLOSE, 2.4 points away iirc, from breaking into Team Microsoft SETI@Home "top 20"!

:)

* You've GOTTA cut me some slack for lagging, I am only @ most imo, a day off of my original estimates!!!

APK

P.S.=> Last reply for today imo, it is late here... & I have to go finish watching a OLD 'classic film', circa 1935, w/ Errol Flynn "Captain Blood"... it is actually pretty good! Nostalgia... apk

FLY3R

06-25-2006, 03:38 AM

Alec§taar

06-25-2006, 03:47 AM

Come on dude start Folding...lol.. I dought any one minds, get your top 20 screen shot TPU's Folding@Home ranks will be waiting for you.

Edit: By the way i don't know if i have asked you this yet, but how many comps will you be adding to F@H and what are there specs???

See signature for current primary rig, & this is my other rig:

Pentium 4 3.2ghz H/T enabled
512mb Corsair SDRAM
BFG GeForce 6800 GT OC
Western Digital "Raptor" 36gb 10k rpm 8mb buffer

"The evidence/habeas corpus", lol:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/hosts_user.php?userid=8294882&show_all=1&sort=rpc_time

* Unlike SETI@Home? I'll be running BOTH systems on this team's project, concurrently, & I never did THAT for the SETI project!

APK

P.S.=> 1 more day, it's not going to 'hurt anything', & I'm back where I didn't think this rig would take me (whereas that 2nd rig above, did) again - into MS Team SETI top 20 once more, & for the last time!

"The Proteins need folding!!!" & I'll be starting that up tomorrow... apk

W2hCYK

06-25-2006, 04:33 AM

stats update, sorry for the delay, i'll continue regularly next wednesday.

FLY3R

06-25-2006, 07:48 AM

stats update, sorry for the delay, i'll continue regularly next wednesday.

yeah i was wondering where u went.

wazzledoozle

06-25-2006, 07:54 AM

Damn the harddrive I got is DOA. So my server is going to be down for another week or so :(

BigD6997

06-25-2006, 08:25 AM

how do i add another comp to teh F@H cuz im going to run my dads duel core (pentium d)?

Jimmy 2004

06-25-2006, 11:20 AM

Damn the harddrive I got is DOA. So my server is going to be down for another week or so :(

Who was it made by? Maxtor by any chance? :laugh:

wazzledoozle

06-25-2006, 11:24 AM

Who was it made by? Maxtor by any chance? :laugh:
No, seagate. It has a 5 year warranty though, so sending it back.

Alec§taar

06-25-2006, 12:57 PM

See title/subject line:

I am not going to make my "goal" of breaking into the Microsoft SETI@Home team's "top 20" systems again, in time today!

(I.E.-> The power has gone out 2 times this a.m. & I ran SETI@Home from a Solid-State drive (which demands power is in it, & even if it has a backing powersupply, when the power goes out, it goes out - it's not a UPS, just an external power cable)).

So, that all said - here I go to join this team for "Folding@Home" now, finally!

:)

* Ah, "the best laid plans of mice & men"... one door closes, another one opens.

APK

P.S.=> Edit part - joined, got my units downloaded & joined team # 50711, & am now running the console client, & playing w/ using "Processor Affinity" w/ it... apk

Jimmy 2004

06-25-2006, 07:54 PM

Well I've got two rigs folding now. The problem is the 2.2GHz Celeron is really slow (nearly always on mind) and my gaming rig (see system specs) is normally gaming or turned off. Still done more frames than the Celeron though!

FLY3R

06-25-2006, 10:58 PM

Alec§taar

06-25-2006, 11:12 PM

I am only running what's in my sig right now doing this project, as far as systems dedicated to it, or @ least partially so.

I am using some commandline switch stuff & running 2 instances of it in their own folders off my SSD, & setting their CPU affinity as 1 to each processor I have in this DualCore jobbie by AMD, plus @ HIGH cpu priority on each.

:)

(However, imo? The BEST part is, I gave the app unliimited CPU, & yet I can play Doom III or Quake 4 smp or watch DvD's here, & there is NEVER a hiccup, even setting "FAH" the way I have above running it while I do those activities, which are cpu heavy imo!)

* It doesn't mess with apps I want to use on the weekend, usually games or multimedia (tunes, films via DvD or WinTV32 USB) & multitasks/coordinates with them very well apparently... this is why I love DualCore/SMP/H-T cpu setups!

Of course, I'm cutting into the "protein folding" calculation speed & processing as efficiently as possible w/out a doubt doing that stuff above as well, I have to admit, but I do have to also enjoy myself &/or get stuff done on this machine too!

Still, soon, my production counts'll get plenty more done on this machine while I sleep & better (I even cutoff the OS gui shell, explorer.exe & run it while I doze off)...

Then, I'll get rig #2 here "rigged up" for it (w/ SQLServer 2005 & IIS6.x only being used for learning here - it's constant) - I've been meaning to see what both of my systems, together, can do on a project like this.

APK

P.S.=> I wish they'd release the DDRDrive PCI-e x1 slot SSD though, I want to put this one (CENATEK) back into my older rig where it came from so it has that advantage for things PC too... & set the machine in my sig below up with that DDRDrive! apk

Alec§taar

06-26-2006, 03:20 AM

I see FAH504-Console.exe, & FahCore_65.exe... I use the console mode client, lighter & faster usually.

(Running 2 sets of these above on my AMD Athlon x2 4800+ dual cores - need/want to maximize cpu use efficiency for units processing speeds)

:)

* I need to know, playing w/ CPU priority allotted for each: The one that does the actual unit process work is going to get HIGH, & the mgt. portion, LOW (assuming it is setup this way in those .exe's running above).

"TIA" for answer...

APK

P.S.=> I want to see if playing w/ their affinity & cpu priority allotted makes a diff. in their processing runs speeds/efficiencies over a long term... apk

Alec§taar

06-26-2006, 07:39 PM

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=50711

(#7 of 12 members, 2 units scoring 482 so far... hope to "boost" that via diff. commandline switches & CPU affinity + priority use here on this project's processes as they are running).

Made it onto the team report chart @ this point, so I know it's working over here...

-----------------------------------------------

Still, if possible (especially from you guys that have been running this project's processes for a long time, iirc, Steevo is one such person)...

I would like an answer to my questions above regarding WHICH of the 2 executables this process runs is MOST directly associated with the actual work-in-process on the unit data!

E.G./I.E.-> FAH504-Console.exe, OR FahCore_65.exe (noted above in my last post).

-----------------------------------------------

:)

* The answer to my question above should help me allocate/deallocate cpu priority & affiniity properly to the processes @ hand being done in the console mode application, hopefully resulting in faster/better performance!

APK

P.S.=> So far, the console mode app's working well w/ various switches here, now it's just time to "zero-in" on which portions of this process (which .exe's really) need to have me "play with" their affinity &/or priority here... apk

Jimmy 2004

06-26-2006, 07:49 PM

You guys are powering ahead of me. I've really got to get this AMD folding more.

Alec§taar

06-26-2006, 07:59 PM

You guys are powering ahead of me. I've really got to get this AMD folding more.

Well, join up & get on it Jim, if you're not already (you may be, just on another team, I don't know)...

:)

* It's fairly interesting to "play around" with, especially the console version of the app imo... many possible 'performance-oriented' switches to mess about with & all that!

(Runs best undisturbed here while I sleep imo, because that's when I even cut out explorer.exe GUI shell from running & leave this project's 2 console sessions motoring along, only)

APK

P.S.=> I always looked at SETI@Home as an "informal, long-term" benchmark of system memory bandwidth & cpu power, & do w/ this one currently as well - especially on the machine I am running it on (Dualcore type cpu)!

The switchwork I use (-forceasm -verbosity 1 -local) tends to help imo, but I really need an answer to the questions above (so I can set CPU affinity & priority allotted properly, to the actual "workhorse" of the project's .exe files that do the actual unit data processing - not any "mgt." portion, which I suspect one of them to be really)...

I haven't made or gotten a determination on that yet from my question above... I get that? Everyone on the team can gain by it... apk

Jimmy 2004

06-26-2006, 08:03 PM

To find out which is most associated just look in teh task manager which one is using 100% of your CPU! FahCore_65.exe should be the one that does all the work, just don't set priority to 'Realtime' because then you'll never get your system back without rebooting :(.

Edit: Done 94 out of 400 frames on my AMD so far, so still a long long way to go. The Celeron's done about 130 frames over the last couple of days, mine's only really been running a few hours.

Jimmy 2004

06-26-2006, 08:10 PM

Everyone who's folding remeber to add the

Fold for Tech Power Up!!

into your sig by copying and pasting the code below:

Fold for Tech Power Up!!

Alec§taar

06-26-2006, 08:13 PM

First of all, see subject line/title Jim:

To find out which is most associated just look in teh task manager which one is using 100% of your CPU!

Oddly, the "FAH504-Console.exe" is starting up @ HIGH cpu priority here, & it was what I suspected was the "mgt. portion", which is much how SETI@Home works using the "BOINC" client-server system!

This I can 'correct for' easily enough though, using taskmgr.exe, & setting the FAHCore_65.exe to HIGH (or yes, even REALTIME) as an experiment @ least...

(I did note, that when I set BOTH .exe's @ HIGH (FAH504-Console.exe AND FAHCore_65.exe, in BOTH instances of it I run on each cpu core here)?

My system lagged large!

However, if I set one or the other as HIGH, & the other to LOW (usually FAH504-Console.exe @ low), my system chugs right along... no lockup though, duallie helps on this account!)

FahCore_65.exe should be the one that does all the work, just don't set priority to 'Realtime' because then you'll never get your system back without rebooting :(.

I am guessing that too, & tend to agree with your guess on which .exe does what!

However, so far?

Well, I don't "lockup" (but do lag) if I set them ALL to "HIGH"!

So, based on your guess, I will go (for now, until I hear otherwise from others replying here) with FAH504-Console.exe @ LOW cpu, & maybe even try the FAHCore_65.exe @ REALTIME (w/ each instance here of them (2 @ once) on a particular CPU core, via taskmgr.exe "affinity" settings).

:)

* Can't hurt to experiment @ this point!

APK

P.S.=> Just out to get the "MOST" I can out of this project & this system, then I will kick my other system into gear onto it as well... apk

Steevo

06-26-2006, 08:26 PM

If the mods will allow I will make a .zip file that I use on all my systems available. It is a complete service installer package with our team number and preconfigured for hih point-speed units.

The file is 1.6MB if this does not work I can-will create a yahoo mail address and provide the user-password via PM so all can download it at yahoo's bandwidth.

Or if I get my FTP back up I can make it available tonight.

W2hCYK

06-26-2006, 08:29 PM

I'm interested, and i think that would be a great help to everyone. Preconfigured and everything, would prevent alot of confusion.

I'm not a mod, but i'd love to see this be done. talk to wazzle

Alec§taar

06-26-2006, 08:36 PM

See subject line/title: and, answer this question if you know the answer to it please, tia!

(I also wrote you in "pm" as well, regarding this line of questioning)

:)

I would like an answer to my questions above regarding WHICH of the 2 executables this process runs is MOST directly associated with the actual work-in-process on the unit data!

E.G./I.E.-> FAH504-Console.exe, OR FahCore_65.exe (noted above in my last post).

APK

P.S.=> Others have responded (Jimmy2004) but, I would like a "2nd opinion" to verify this, as it can affect what I am "up to" here in messing around w/ the console mode variety/version of this project suite's apparently "client-server"/"mgt.-workhorse" design (what it appears to be like to me, much how SETI@Home/BOINC work)... thanks! apk

Steevo

06-26-2006, 08:42 PM

Fahcore is the working unit, and the priority is fine as low. You will notice the numbers and letter behind change to represent the core that is being used a the time.

The core "Fahcore65" etc... if the actual shell that the work is done in, to see your unit ID you will need to open the GUI or in the console version open the worklog.txt, then you can compare the workunit number to what is listed onthe FAQ page for folding to see what you are actualy working on.

Alec§taar

06-26-2006, 08:57 PM

See subject line/title: Thanks guys!

:)

* NOW, time to try to "put this to work" & experiment more + see how it works out!

APK

P.S=> In addition to the console mode app's commandline switchwork I use now:

-local -forceasm -verbosity 1

Next, it's running the actual "workhorse" portion (apparently FahCore_65.exe since both of you guys noted this to me) @ HIGH cpu, & on each of my 2 instances running from their own folders, onto their own CPU core as well!

(All done via taskmgr.exe's affinity & priority settings via the process tab right-click on processname feature)... apk

Alec§taar

06-26-2006, 09:42 PM

See subject line/title: May save some of you experimenting time...

E.G.-> I set the 1st instance of it to "REALTIME" for FAHCore_65.exe (& now I startup the process for the FAHConsole.exe to LOW, via start /low in a .cmd file (32-bit batch basically)).

(& it's doable IF you only run 1 instance of it (via the -local switch) set with AFFINITY to CPU 0 for instance & set to REALTIME on said 1st possible instance via the -local switch for the consolemode/tty/DOS commandline client).

BUT, when I tried setting the 2nd instance to HIGH cpu priority (and set affinity to CPU 1, the 2nd core here on this CPU) & the system stayed up & running (but laggy)!

HOWEVER, when I kicked up the 2nd instance & set it to REALTIME (w/ affinity to 2nd CPU 1)? The appearance of "lockup" happened...

* Oh, taskmgr.exe eventually responded so I could "kill" the process, but I wouldn't recommend this, even on a DualCore/SMP rig.

(Wouldn't even TRY it on an Intel single core, even with HyperThreading)

APK

P.S.=> It appears that going with HIGH cpu priority works ok though, for BOTH instances... apk

Jimmy 2004

06-26-2006, 10:26 PM

I would say 'told you so' but as it was an experiment to find out if it did happen I doubt you'd care!

Alec§taar

06-27-2006, 01:07 AM

See title/subject-line, & check it:

I would say 'told you so' but as it was an experiment to find out if it did happen I doubt you'd care!

I will do it that way, while I sleep (HIGH, or @least AboveNormal (cpu #1 affinity & priority), & REALTIME (cpu #2 & priority)), it'll work!

(I did things like this with SETI@Home, you just have to find the right "mixture" of what you leave running - all else is @ minimum! Even explorer.exe gui killed + trimmed to a minimum of services only (nothing else))

:)

I may not be able to do BOTH @ REALTIME cpu priority assigned, 1 to each cpu, but I can do 1 of them that way, & the other @ AboveNormal, or even HIGH!

(This much I know I can pull off... or @ least think so in theory, going to find out again!)

APK

P.S.=> The minute I close Opera, from posting here?

Back up she goes running dual instances of it as proscribed above priority & cpu affinity-wise, & then I will see how it is later (if I can pull up taskmgr.exe to kill instance #2 in REALTIME) & if I can 'pull out of it'...

I did to post this - so it will be doable again later! apk

Alec§taar

06-27-2006, 03:41 PM

I am keeping it @ 1st & 2nd instances running @ HIGH cpu priority!

I had to "toss" doing 1 @ REALTIME, & 1 @ HIGH (or, AboveNormal) cpu priority allotted PER CPU by using AFFINITY settings as well!

(The problem is, that if done that way? It is WAY too hard to get out of it: I.E.-> It takes a lot of time to get taskmgr.exe up on the screen to get the system actually DOING things again, after it has been interactively commanded by me to do so via taskmgr.exe & the mouse/keyboard (even these lag setup that way - device driver driven, or not)).

:)

* Experiment goes on, but I think that is the way I will run it from now on...

APK

P.S.=> The "rumors" I heard while on the SETI@Home team for MS is true as well/also - the units processing times on "FAH" are a great deal longer as well imo... apk

Jimmy 2004

06-27-2006, 03:50 PM

Well my AMD has now overtaken the crappy Celeron. I've left it on for almost 5 hours so far today and I've broken the 200 frames barrier :). How long does it take everyone else to do a frame? On my quick system it takes about 4m 10s.

Steevo

06-27-2006, 06:31 PM

Frames are dependant on the work unit being processed.
Larger frame count work units process faster. IE 400 frame count unit has higher processing-memory and network load than a 2000 frame count.
Some QMD cores "96" are very large and only get assigned to specificly.
Intel CPU's
More than 512Mb of free RAM
Higher than 2.0Ghz (from what i have seen) processors.
Only with the -advmethods, large WU's tags used. (this is setup as default in the service installer)

I still have 6 machines to add. In order of power.
1) 1Gb RAM, 3.2Ghz P4
1) 512Mb RAM. 2.4Ghz P4
2) 512MB RAM, 2.0Ghz Celery
1) 256MB RAM, 1.3Ghz Celery
1) 512MB RAM, 400Mhz K6-2 (fear this bitch!!!) :D

Plus I am trying to get another tower as my really old Compaq server at home is out of space, plus the SCSI drives are whining. I have to go wipe some systems for sale and I might bargain one out of them and add a few drives on a RAID card for my FTP.

Steevo

06-27-2006, 07:05 PM

The zip file is now available on yahoo mail, with a username and passoword that I will give to anyone interested.

PM me.

Alec§taar

06-27-2006, 09:29 PM

-verbosity 1

* That consolemode/tty/Character mode is in effect/place here, in use as I write this...

:)

APK

P.S.=> Gotta fly... apk

Jimmy 2004

06-27-2006, 10:01 PM

-verbosity 1

* That consolemode/tty/Character mode is in effect/place here, in use as I write this...

:)

APK

P.S.=> Gotta fly... apk

What does that command actually do?

Alec§taar

06-27-2006, 10:07 PM

What does that command actually do?

Stall charmode/consolemode/tty output to the screen - that too, is overhead, so it improves performance by not doing it & taking those cycles for the actual data-processing.

Arguments: -local -config -forceasm -verbosity 1

:)

* Best performance I can get out of it... software-config. side concentration, whereas I was working on the timeslice & affinity portions earlier OS-side (hardware see below, this runs from the SSD, 2 instances, 1 to each CPU, mgt. portion @ LOW cpu, & unit processing client portion @ HIGH cpu across 2 cpus)!

APK

Jimmy 2004

06-27-2006, 10:10 PM

Stall charmode/consolemode/tty output to the screen - that too, is overhead, so it improves performance by not doing it & taking those cycles for the actual data-processing.

APK

You know a lot of stuff...

268 frames so far!(on my AMD) :rockout: :rockout: Finally folding properly.

Edit: we should make it our goal to break into the top 1000.

Alec§taar

06-27-2006, 10:13 PM

You know a lot of stuff...

Not really, I just read about it during its setup & went @ it, making it not even report frames... I've written this stuff for years and output to screen (or any device) costs cycles, heavier ones imo.

To get the MOST out of it & toying w/ my OS (stalling services & the GUI shell even while I sleep & this runs) + other running apps (stopping them) as well before that.

APK

P.S.=> I've done 2 units so far, 482 credit, means I can "push" apparently 241 per cpu scoring so far...

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=50711

That's GOTTA be up there for a single-system score, per-cpu output, on our team (you have to look @ it machine by machine & avg. per-unit though to determine this)! apk

Jimmy 2004

06-27-2006, 10:24 PM

What is the credit score based on exactly? How fast you do it?

Alec§taar

06-27-2006, 11:30 PM

See subject-line/title, & this image:

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/awards/cert.php?u=AlecStaar&pts=482

:)

* There/here we go... out to help cure some bogus disease hopefully!

APK

P.S.=> What is the credit score based on exactly? How fast you do it?

Simple - I did 2 units so far, & scored 482 - division (do the math):

If these stay @ least SOMEWHAT LINEAR, you can get a performance index out of it of somekind, vs. peer machines/systems on your team @ least, & over time, one of your system vs. itself really!

Programs like these?

They're benchmarks too imo, depends on how you use them & their data output - I viewed SETI@Home as a benchmark of sorts (cpu/caches/RAM/disk I-O etc. used)... apk

FLY3R

06-28-2006, 03:02 AM

Frames are dependant on the work unit being processed.
Larger frame count work units process faster. IE 400 frame count unit has higher processing-memory and network load than a 2000 frame count.
Some QMD cores "96" are very large and only get assigned to specificly.
Intel CPU's
More than 512Mb of free RAM
Higher than 2.0Ghz (from what i have seen) processors.
Only with the -advmethods, large WU's tags used. (this is setup as default in the service installer)

I still have 6 machines to add. In order of power.
1) 1Gb RAM, 3.2Ghz P4
1) 512Mb RAM. 2.4Ghz P4
2) 512MB RAM, 2.0Ghz Celery
1) 256MB RAM, 1.3Ghz Celery
1) 512MB RAM, 400Mhz K6-2 (fear this bitch!!!) :D

The zip file is now available on yahoo mail, with a username and passoword that I will give to anyone interested.

PM me.

OH, this is awsome! I am interested in getting this from you. Can you give me a list of the options that you pre-configured? And also if i am running the console version, not as a service, where do i go to enter comand lines or edit it, where are you guys adding -advmethods with the console version. Because I am only knolagable of how to and -advmethods and other lines when running the console version as a service.

Steevo

06-28-2006, 06:27 AM

PM sent.

Jimmy 2004

06-28-2006, 10:18 AM

Guys, if I set priority to idle does it have ANY effect on my gaming performance with it in the background? Or does it not alter it in any way and just go to sleep?

Alec§taar

06-28-2006, 02:00 PM

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=teampage&teamnum=50711

On 06/27/2006 -> 7th place, AlecStaar, 482 score/2 units done = 241 per unit

On 06/28/2006 -> 5th place, AlecStaar, 964 score/4 units done = 281 per unit

4 units done @ score of 964 = 281 per unit avg. score thusfar (that's up 40 points from my previous 2 unit avg. of 241 per unit)

What I was hoping for appears to be correct - That the switchwork + CPU priority allocation & affinity work are working effectively for me as well : As my avg. score (PER UNIT AVG.) shot up 40 points more ~ 20% increase apparently using those techniques.

Console mode client switchwork I use is as follows (for others reference so they too can run as fast/efficient as possible - the -local one might ONLY be for DualCore/SMP setups though imo):

Arguments: -local -config -forceasm -verbosity 1

Why'd I go & do all of this? Because of what I outlined in this thread here:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=110181#post110181

Projects like these do well with L2 cache being "clean" as possible, & the ONLY way I know to do that, is to use AFFINITY settings (see that url above about how L2 cache works, & how you can get it to work more efficiently using affinity settings - avoiding "cache pollution")

:)

* It also appears the data is SOMEWHAT "linear" in nature, which is good - I wasn't sure if the units here were of a uniform nature in complexity/size & processing duration periods is why I say that.

(It can be used as a sort of benchmark then imo)

APK

P.S.=> Besides being a great cause, this can be used to measure system performance as well to some extent - too bad there aren't AMD cpu or Intel cpu SPECIFICALLY OPTIMIZED CLIENTS, as there is in SETI@Home - those also make projects like these run even faster/more efficiently!

Guys, if I set priority to idle does it have ANY effect on my gaming performance with it in the background? Or does it not alter it in any way and just go to sleep?

IDLE is as low a priority as you can make it - it shouldn't "seriously" interfere if it is set that way (I play Doom III &/or Quake 4 smp while it runs, they play seamlessly here on this system @ least while "FAH" runs in the background).

When you sleep though & nothing is being done interactively on your system? Heck - stop EVERYTHING you can, & let it run @ HIGH priority, done via right-clicks in taskmgr.exe while in its PROCESS tab (I even kill off the explorer.exe GUI destkop shell instance & all other trayicon + services oriented apps I can (enough to keep system online only is left))!

That makes it run better/faster/more efficiently, by setting the FAHCore_65.exe (actual unit processing client workhorse) to HIGH & FAHConsole.exe (mgt. server portion) to LOW! apk

Jimmy 2004

06-28-2006, 03:43 PM

Just realised something strange - the time that Folding@Home reports is not actually correct - it's an hour behind the system clock. I'm guessing it could be something related to daylight savings.

Alec§taar

06-28-2006, 04:06 PM

Just realised something strange - the time that Folding@Home reports is not actually correct - it's an hour behind the system clock. I'm guessing it could be something related to daylight savings.

Maybe they're just in a diff. timezone than yourself, all based off (iirc) "the prime meridian" & "GMT" (greenwich mean time)...

:)

* I run into that madness quite a lot on websites for stats myself & have wondered about it also & figured it was based on WHERE they report from & what time system is used!

APK

W2hCYK

06-28-2006, 04:38 PM

new stats update!

Good job so far guys!!!

Fly3r is storming ahead. May I ask, what core are you working on?

Alec§taar

06-28-2006, 04:50 PM

Good job so far guys!!!

I'm having some fun with it personally, so far!

I have been pulling some "experiments" here, mainly for the "dualcore/smp crowd"!

Just to see what we can do to operate MORE EFFICIENTLY/FASTER, using CPU affinity & process priority "tricks" & using switches for the consolemode/tty/charactermode clientware for this project (combining software characteristics & OS process/cpu affinity control)!

That's done to keep the cpu cycles dedicated to this process as high as possible (w/out undue "lockup", or the appearance of it happening)!

I.E.-> To keep the L2 cache clean via CPU affinity use (keeping SAME code running on a particular CPU, so its L2 cache keeps "sane" & doesn't change up code running on it for this process, via diff. threads taking over with their data).

L1-L2 cache amounts matter to distributed programming projects from what I have seen/heard over time (even from Steevo here in another thread, "FAH" is JUST LIKE SETI@Home in this regard)...

Keep the CPU L1-L2 cache "unpolluted" & theory says it will operate faster & this MAXES out whatever L1-L2 cache you have (regardless of amount).

My experiments above, so far @ least? Tend to "prove that/second that motion" so far... I gained a clean 20% over doing it w/out using CPU affinity &/or process priority settings!

Fly3r is storming ahead. May I ask, what core are you working on?

Heh, gimme time - I'll catch him!

:)

(I haven't brought my 2nd rig into this yet... that's going to be what does it for me, catching the leader!)

APK

P.S.=> I wish someone from the "SERIOUS ENTHUSIASTS" bunch @ the "FAH" forums would do a recompile, for the BEST optimization possible from this program for SPECIFIC CPU families & their instruction sets (e.g.-> AMD 3dNow/SSE1/SSE2/SSE3) &/or (e.g.-> INTEL MMX/SSE1/SSE2/SSE3) because I saw that happen w/ SETI@Home, & it made HUGE differences... 2x as fast many times, or nearly so! apk

Steevo

06-29-2006, 06:43 AM

Just added 5Ghz in two systems of computing power.

Now to bed.

FLY3R

06-29-2006, 06:04 PM

Im not sure what cores that i