PC Power and Cooling releases Silencer 750

[D_o_S]

PC Power and Cooling, a company well known for high performance PSUs has released a new model: the Silencer 750.
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/06-07-27/S75EPS_photo_01_thm.jpg (http://www.techpowerup.com/img/06-07-27/S75EPS_photo_01.jpg) http://www.techpowerup.com/img/06-07-27/S75EPS_photo_04_thm.jpg (http://www.techpowerup.com/img/06-07-27/S75EPS_photo_04.jpg)
Main specs are:
+5V @ 30A
+12V @ 60A
-12V @ 0.8A
+3.3V @ 24A
+5VSB @ 3A
continuous = 750W
peak = 825W

The PSU is to be priced around $199.

Source: PC Power and Cooling (http://www.pcpowercooling.com/products/viewproduct.php?show=S75EPS&view=photos)

[Judas]

Wot a beast... nice copper finish :D

[EnJoY]

60amps on a single 12v line, that's insane. Probably not as good for SLI/XFire users as a dual or triple 12v rail system would be, but certainly superior for cpu and chipset requirements. This is almost designed for super pi benchers. :D

[Dippyskoodlez]

60amps on a single 12v line, that's insane. Probably not as good for SLI/XFire users as a dual or triple 12v rail system would be, but certainly superior for cpu and chipset requirements. This is almost designed for super pi benchers. :D


actually, I'm betting the single 12v rail would.. beat the crap out of a split rail system, when its rated this high.

If one rail gets overloaded, and the other is at max, GG psu.

I'm more worried about the wires melting from the current.. o_O

[creidiki]

the extra signal cleanness of multi-rail PSUs is a delusion. theyre all connected to a shared master overcurrent protecttor anyway.

[oldschool]

For those who don't already know, PC Power & Cooling makes the finest PSUs on the planet. They are OEM suppliers to Sun and other server companies for mission critical applications. I've tested and used a variety of their PSUs over the years and have yet to find anything even remotely close in performance, quality or value.

[Dippyskoodlez]

For those who don't already know, PC Power & Cooling makes the finest PSUs on the planet. They are OEM suppliers to Sun and other server companies for mission critical applications. I've tested and used a variety of their PSUs over the years and have yet to find anything even remotely close in performance, quality or value.


Who doesn't know? :roll:

[demonbrawn]

I hope they have it in different colors. I doubt copper would look good with most cases...

[Dippyskoodlez]

I hope they have it in different colors. I doubt copper would look good with most cases...


It isnt about looks. Its about performance. and if they used copper, theres a reason they did ;)

[SPHERE]

humm its intersting to compair the 510 sli/express to this one the express 510 has a 40a 5v and this one has a 30a 5v rail this one also has les temp and humidity tolerances but other than that specs seem to idicate that this one is far supiror in all other respects (that i can see) though i wont pass final judgment till i see someone do a stress test while monitoring voltage ripple etc (if anyone knows of a review like that plz link)

btw it isnt that much more than the express/sli 510 lol 197$ vs 199$

[demonbrawn]

Hahaha trust me I know. I mean the metal might serve a purpose in and of itself, but when you're into modding, a lot of cases just don't come with colors that match the "color" of copper. Like mine for instance is black and blue. It's just a thought. Then again, if you wanted to take the time, you could paint it, I guess...

[Dippyskoodlez]

Hahaha trust me I know. I mean the metal might serve a purpose in and of itself, but when you're into modding, a lot of cases just don't come with colors that match the "color" of copper. Like mine for instance is black and blue. It's just a thought. Then again, if you wanted to take the time, you could paint it, I guess...


From the engineers/overclockers that want performance, not looks: Bugger off.

This is marketted for performance, not modders ;)

If you want looks, buy an OCZ. lol :roll:

[WarEagleAU]

Antec makes great powersupplies as does Enermax. Thermaltake and Mushkin do too. So yes, there are PSUs just as good if not better. However, PC Power and Cooling is one kick ass PSU maker, and they've been doing it for 20 years. Just thought I would throw my 2 cents in to the piggy bank.

[Dippyskoodlez]

Antec makes great powersupplies as does Enermax. Thermaltake and Mushkin do too. So yes, there are PSUs just as good if not better. However, PC Power and Cooling is one kick ass PSU maker, and they've been doing it for 20 years. Just thought I would throw my 2 cents in to the piggy bank.

Nah, even other PSU makers will admit PCP&C = the best. period. :)

Although there are quite a few other psu makers that are more than acceptable in this market =)

[FLY3R]

Everybody needs to stop acking like they know what their talking about and put one of these babies under some stress tests. Becaue how often have you seen benches done on a PSU with 60amp on a signal +12 volt rail comparied to a dual or quad.

[overcast]

Yeh that would be such a horrible tragedy. Clashing PC parts. :rolleyes:
I hope they have it in different colors. I doubt copper would look good with most cases...

[b1lk1]

60amps on a single 12v line, that's insane. Probably not as good for SLI/XFire users as a dual or triple 12v rail system would be, but certainly superior for cpu and chipset requirements. This is almost designed for super pi benchers. :D

Exactly the opposite as a single rail PSU most benefits SLI/Crossfire users.

[demonbrawn]

Originally posted by overcast:

Yeh that would be such a horrible tragedy. Clashing PC parts. I know I know! Performance is everything, I always consider that first, I was just stating a point. Anyone who has a window in their case (I should have been clear that I was referring to people who have windowed cases) will most likely consider the color of the object they buy.

[Dippyskoodlez]

I know I know! Performance is everything, I always consider that first, I was just stating a point. Anyone who has a window in their case (I should have been clear that I was referring to people who have windowed cases) will most likely consider the color of the object they buy.


screw that, I'd be proud to have this sucker stand out! :eek:

[SPHERE]

Antec makes great powersupplies as does Enermax. Thermaltake and Mushkin do too. So yes, there are PSUs just as good if not better. However, PC Power and Cooling is one kick ass PSU maker, and they've been doing it for 20 years. Just thought I would throw my 2 cents in to the piggy bank.
let me tell you a story of 2 top of the line thermaltake psus rofl well long story short one fried with nothing more than a mobo pluged into it and the other picked a fight with a motherboard and won rofl that poor south bridge "poof!" i never skimped on psus again went out and got 2 pcpac psus and havent had to worry since

[EastCoasthandle]

But here is the caveat of this conundrum:
With CPU's using less current to operate (with GPU to follow...hopefully in the near future) high power PSU's show their obsolesce already. So, it would be advantageous to create a PSU with better tolerances then more wattage as the days of P4, netburst have come to an end. Once these new AMD (K8L) and Conroe/Kentfield CPUs enter server land...the need for high power output PSUs are no longer needed. However, this is IMO...

[Dippyskoodlez]

But here is the caveat of this conundrum:
With CPU's using less current to operate (with GPU to follow...hopefully in the near future) high power PSU's show their obsolesce already. So, it would be advantageous to create a PSU with better tolerances then more wattage as the days of P4, netburst have come to an end. Once these new AMD (K8L) and Conroe/Kentfield CPUs enter server land...the need for high power output PSUs are no longer needed. However, this is IMO...


AMD and Intel have felt the power usage stick pretty good this time around...

Ati and Nvidia however... seem to keep pushin on... :wtf:

[nicepun]

I'm gonna try this PSU, I'll let you how it can provide enough power for my rig, otherwise Zippy 850w it is.

[Dippyskoodlez]

I'm gonna try this PSU, I'll let you how it can provide enough power for my rig, otherwise Zippy 850w it is.


lmao

it will be plenty.. ;)

[nicepun]

lmao

it will be plenty.. ;)

I'll be sure to push it really hard.

[KennyT772]

somthing none of the multi rail fanboys have noticed is psu companies pool the wattage together on multirail. like 20a per rail but only 384w for 2 rails. thats actually only 16a and not nearly enough for a x1900xtx. atx12v 1.1 psus are the best for high end systems period. multi rail psus with a 20a cap per rail just dont cut it.

[Dippyskoodlez]

I'll be sure to push it really hard.

I'd only be worried if you were using a dual head phase for the gpu's and a cascade for the cpu... and overclocking ;)

[Dippyskoodlez]

somthing none of the multi rail fanboys have noticed is psu companies pool the wattage together on multirail. like 20a per rail but only 384w for 2 rails. thats actually only 16a and not nearly enough for a x1900xtx. atx12v 1.1 psus are the best for high end systems period. multi rail psus with a 20a cap per rail just dont cut it.


I don't personally like the design/idea of it anyways...

1 12v gets overloaded, so it starts pulling from the other...

if your psu isnt gonna handle it, period, you're gonna have problems.. no matter the psu design...

and I dont see how bleeding into the next 12v rail would give you any "cleaner power" as the seperation of rails will prolly give you a rougher voltage... :wtf:

[nicepun]

I'd only be worried if you were using a dual head phase for the gpu's and a cascade for the cpu... and overclocking ;)


You are quite right my friend. This PSU never missed a beat. Stayed@12.08v the whole time w/o fluctuation. I did a 3DMark05 run PD940@4.8Ghz (1.60vcore) with X1900 CF @ 724/819 (1.550/2.201/2.180/1.514) and X1900 XTX @ 745/855 (1.550/2.201/2.180/1.514). This is def a PSU to have. I'm very impressed. :rockout:

3DMark05 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2142622)

[Dippyskoodlez]

You are quite right my friend. This PSU never missed a beat. Stayed@12.08v the whole time w/o fluctuation. I did a 3DMark05 run PD940@4.8Ghz (1.60vcore) with X1900 CF @ 724/819 (1.550/2.201/2.180/1.514) and X1900 XTX @ 745/855 (1.550/2.201/2.180/1.514). This is def a PSU to have. I'm very impressed. :rockout:

3DMark05 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2142622)


it IS the best, afterall.

[EastCoasthandle]

The theory is that multi 12V rail PSUs with 16A-19A posses a threat to stability. Mutli 12V rails run the risk of over staturating 1 of the rails and not using the other. The way PSU are manufactured, there is no guarantee that once 1 rail is staturated it switches over to the un-used rail. Thus causing instability, slow downs in OC performance, etc.

Which PSUs are a candidate for this, I don't know. I am only sighting the theory behind why people prefer 1 single 60A, 12V rail over 2 18A, 12V rails.

[EastCoasthandle]

You are quite right my friend. This PSU never missed a beat. Stayed@12.08v the whole time w/o fluctuation. I did a 3DMark05 run PD940@4.8Ghz (1.60vcore) with X1900 CF @ 724/819 (1.550/2.201/2.180/1.514) and X1900 XTX @ 745/855 (1.550/2.201/2.180/1.514). This is def a PSU to have. I'm very impressed. :rockout:

3DMark05 (http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2142622)

Dude something is not right with your score. :wtf: It might be do to C2D E67 I don't know but I am only a few points away from you. I must ask, did this PSU increase your score from a previous 3D05 score with the old PSU?

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=2196310

[EastCoasthandle]

You need a enama, ATI CAT Enama

Use your uninstall program to delete the drivers
-DL/Install the lastest driver cleaner http://www.drivercleaner.net/
-DL/install the lastest Registry Mechanic http://www.pctools.com/registry-mechanic/
Side Note: When using registry mechanic options and check create a restore point... and scan files for suggested correction that is all.
OR
-DL/install the lastes Tune Up Utilities http://www.tune-up.com/
-DL/install the lastes ATI TOOL .25 beta 14 http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/ --this will also help control fan speed
-Also download lastes SysTool http://www.techpowerup.com/systool/ --this will monitor both CPU/GPU Temps
-Uninstall your video card drivers using your uninstall program.
-reboot into Safe Mode with internet connection enabled
-use the search feature using (ATI*.* or Nvidia*.* if you had that card in the past). Use your curser and place it on the file to make sure it comes up as ATI Technologies, etc.
-Do not delete ATI files found in your cab. Most of the ATI files are found in Windows\system and windows\system32 sub directories. If they pop right back that's a good sign they are XP's version and that's ok.
-once they are deleted use driver cleaner to remove all ATI/Nvidia related entries, that means all of them not the ones you think are important. Just make sure you don't delete chipset and sound drivers that maybe related to ATI/Nvidia depending on what chipset you are using. So be careful, if you are not sure of what that particular program is good for:
stop, do a websearch, once you know what it is, return back to driver cleaner and make the appropriate selections. If you had both ATI and Nvidia in the past then look to delete both ATI and Nvidia entries.
-now use Registry Mechanic or Tune-Up utilities registry cleaner and look for any Nvidia, ATI drivers or both and remove them. Again make sure you don't remove chipset or sound driver registries. You are only looking for video card related entries.
-reboot to normal XP and install your drivers.
-delete the BF2 Cache: C:\Documents and Settings\your name\My Documents\Battlefield 2142\mods\bf2142\cache\{bf322329...}---for example.
-Reboot then try to see if you are a bit more succesful with BF2142.
-Go to your cat control center then go to Digital Panel Properties then go to Attributes. Make sure that you have Alternate DVI operational mode is checked. If your monitor is 20" or more also check "Reduced DVI frequency on high resolution display. See if that helps any.

The most important aspect of uninstall Cat drivers is deleting ATI files from Windows\system\ATI*.* and Windows\system32\ATI*.* (always place cursor over file to make sure it its ATI Technology file.

Hopefully this will help some of you with your problems.

[EastCoasthandle]

well? Have you tried it, come on?

[robl756]

I have done MANY tests of PC Power& Cooling UNDER load, heavy load. And, ripple, was STILL with in their advertised tolerance. And, to the gentleman, who said single rail woud not be as good for SLI, and crossfire, WRONG. There are SO MANY people out there, that are getting only about 50% to 60% of the total output of their PSU's becuase the 4 RAILS, seperate the rails into X amount of available current per rail.. V121-A + V12-2-A +V12-3-A + V12Y-A = I total. I have a FSP Epsilon 600GLN here, and it lists WHAT comes off of each rail. I was using it on a AMD that had SLI with 2 6800's, and a FX-57, a LOT of SCSI hard drives, etc. LOTS of current. I found out, when my wife read it for me (i'm blind) that, the last two rails, were not being used at ALL. One of them, is reserved for CPU-2 (8 pin), + the 2nd PCI-E connector. My video card, did NOT have seperate PCI-E connectors. They got their extra power fromt the Molex 4 pin the mother board had mounted just for extra PCi-E devices. And, the other rail not being used, was for PCI-E-1 + (Can't remember / sorry ) any way, after my wife informing me of this, I dumped it quick, and bought ANOTHER PC power and COOling 750 Silencer. Overkill, but, THE BEST (maybe ties with Zippy Emacs) PSU's on the face of the Earth. I know, I'm using enough of them. I tried to do something stupid in the beginning. SAVE MONEY. HOW many of us have lost equipment due to trying to save a buck, where we should not have. MY HANDS UP! OK, I get stupid sometimes. Now, for cooling, I use water almost exclusively, and, the pumps, Iwaki, RD-30's. AND, I keep a couple of new spares, for when something happens, has not yet. But, Things happen. They have a 3 year waranty thank god. But, the best part is, like the PC P and C is that they DON'T NEED IT!