Marijuana?

[Cj_Staal]

I don't know what happened to my last thread....
If this is against the posting guidelines please remove it and send me a PM.
Anyways, who is Pro-Marijuana?
heres a couple links
http://100777.com/drugs/marijuanaconspiracy
http://www.iahushua.com/Hemp.html
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...conspiracy.htm
http://www.ukcia.org/potculture/20/lies.html
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Harry_J._Anslinger <--just one of Anslingers many lies

After reviewing those links, Pro-Legalize?

EDIT:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12943013/ link wazzle gave, very good

[POGE]

You are special.

[rh535]

Doesn't it kill short term memory?

[Cj_Staal]

na not really only when your high :D (and even then, isnt very often, I can remember EVERYTHING after I smoke)
And uhh it actually can help regenerate long term memory cells.

[wazzledoozle]

Marijuana doesnt cause cancer-
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12943013/

He theorized that tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, a chemical in marijuana smoke that produces its psychotropic effect, may encourage aging, damaged cells to die off before they become cancerous.

Also since marijuana does not have nicotine, it is not addictive unless you use it a LOT.

[Cj_Staal]

Not even alot... it can be mentally addicting but thats only if the owner thinks he needs it... and that subisdes after a day or 2 and no withdrawel effects

[POGE]

LMAO @ votes. :P

[Cj_Staal]

POGE, change it back

or whoever did it

[POGE]

I have no powers...

[Alec§taar]

See my subject-line/title above: Legalize it by ALL means!

(& tax the heck out of it (like liquor) & use the monies from said taxes to set the nation straight vs. the national debt, or even state-based debts!)

:)

* I have NEVER seen anyone be violent or commit violent crimes that smokes pot & imo @ least, it is nowhere near as dangerous as opiate type drugs like coke or heroin either!

Grow it nationally & create NEW JOBS too, an ENTIRE NEW INDUSTRY!

(Think about it folks...)

APK

P.S.=> You can't really stop folks from puffing weed, so the gov't. ought to get smart about it & use that to its advantage & make it legal (people that smoke it would be patriotic more-or-less, lol, helping the debt problems nations' have)...

It'd be better to see the monies from it go to taxes than illegal gain which is untaxed! apk

[Cj_Staal]

Forgot about that view!
But yes ABSOLUTELY good point indeed
And man alec, if you smoke, then that PROVES that it does nothing to intellect
Hell, enstein smoked, bill gates, all people who work at Mac LOL.

[Alec§taar]

Forgot about that view!
But yes ABSOLUTELY good point indeed

Thanks, because it makes sense - making pot illegal is about as effective as prohibition was... it's NOT!

Grow it nationally & create NEW JOBS too, an ENTIRE NEW INDUSTRY!

(Think about it folks...)

Tax it during sale? Make even more money for offsetting national debt!

And man alec, if you smoke, then that PROVES that it does nothing to intellect

Thanks, but I can't admit it one way, OR the other (Sorry)... I am just out to make a point & a method of cleaning up financial difficulties any nations have via this route! Might as well use potheads to clear it... right?

"Fix the debt up & LIKE IT, be a patriotic pot puffer" would be the slogan more-or-less!

(See, I just have to make a point about people, & their recreational needs (you can't stop folks who like it from smoking it, anymore than you can people having sex really. They just like it - so, that said? Might as well use that to the nation's advantage!))

Pot is NOT "in the same league" as the 'crazo' drugs like PCP, Coke, Heroin, Crystal Meth, OR others... not by a long-shot! I have yet to see anyone who smokes pot be somekind of violence case or crazo because of it (sure, there may be SOME cases, but not the majority I am certain)

Hell, enstein smoked, bill gates, all people who work at Mac LOL.

I don't know if those gents did or do (like President Clinton inhaling: Didn't matter to me what the guy did - he did his job & was BEST PRESIDENT I have EVER seen), but I am sure that one way or another?

Pot is not like somekind of "violent drug" or 'brain crusher' if you don't abuse it.

Heck, eat too much food? You can ruin yourself too!

Amsterdam has hashish legal (weed concentrated) & they seem to do pretty well... gee, I guess pot destroys all eh? NOT!

APK

P.S.=> I am telling you one thing: If I EVER ran for political office? This would be one of my platforms... no joke, because it only makes good sense for all parties concerned... another would be legalized prostitution (that's right - it is in Las Vegas, why not the rest of the nation too? It'd be regulated to keep diseases down & taxed also like any industry)

BET I'D WIN IN A HUGE LANDSLIDE, & for sure, get MOST of the MALE vote @ least, lol!

NOW, who TRULY keeps it "illegal"? Those making illegal monies from it, that's who (they make enough cash to bribe people & create lobbyist groups, they don't want to give up a source of income imo)...

Wake up, if you think otherwise!

Personally? I'd rather see those monies from pot (illegal ones, not taxed etc.) go to a legal industry that creates jobs & a taxable good to offset debts & such! apk

[Cj_Staal]

The best thing about marijuana is it is Natural... Unlike ciggarettes with additives or having to ferminate it like alcohol... or extract it like coke or opium.

[wazzledoozle]

Bush Jr. was addicted to heroin and was an alcoholic before he became a "born again christian" and went on his path to politics.

And now he and his buddies run the country...

[Alec§taar]

Bush Jr. was addicted to heroin and was an alcoholic before he became a "born again christian" and went on his path to politics.

And now he and his buddies run the country...

And, then there is the BEST PRESIDENT THIS NATION EVER HAD in Bill Clinton (yes, womanizer & pot inhaler ("just once"))... same w/ JFK on the womanizing!

(Heck - in a STRANGE WAY? I respect guys that get a lot of "tail" - & those 2 guys were the best this nation's seen as heads of state this century no less!).

:)

* It ALL depends on the individual & his/her character...

APK

P.S.=> When you come right down to it though & read behind the lines? Guys like BUSH don't run the nation, not really... BIG MONEY does!

Gee!

Now, isn't the same type of folks George Sr. & Jr. come from (Oil money - the ONLY industry (well, insurance may be another "selling fear" the way they do, a VERY powerful motivator) that in its entire history has NEVER had a losing year, & only 1 "breakeven" one)

Wonder why THAT is? See gas prices lately?? (Think there is a shortage of oil out there??? B.S.!)

(The kind that imports the drugs & sits in board of directors chairs EARNING PAY RATES NOBODY DESERVES & I don't care what anyone says (entire company payrolls or more in 1 year in fact - wtf is wrong w/ stockholders? Can't they SEE that??) & for whom there is NEVER ENOUGH MONEY TO BE MADE)

And, the TRULY 'dangerous' ones? They are their henchmen - the ones who SIT BEHIND THE MAN IN THE CHAIR - the J. Edgar Hoover types who run the CIA & such for 30++ years & the power corrupts them (absolutely)... NOW, there was a real case of "absolute power corrupting absolutely"...

IMO @ least - Nobody should hold offices of SUCH power like that for more than 4 years imo - nor should they be allowed subsequent appointments to "lateral posts" like it (just shifting their title really is all)!

Think the CIA doesn't pull crap like import drugs? WAKE UP! They got caught for it iirc, importing/smuggling coke into the U.S. to finance weapons buys for the Iran Contra affair (or some lunacy like that in the 1980's iirc)... apk

[Cj_Staal]

Mr bush was quite fond of a certain "white powder" :)

[Cj_Staal]

Read this quote "For a minute there, dude, I thought my life had turned into a musical. And I was so...excited....just standing here, waiting for my cue to burst into song." Now is that that bad?

[GLD]

Alec, I agree with you on Bill Clinton, BUT, I would myself have to add Ronald Regan to that list. Look at how he handled the Cold War, he was THE MAN that brought the hammer to the wall, etc., if you know what I meen.
On the marijuana issue: Well I live in California and we have this thing called prop. 215. It is such that with a doctors recommendation, you can grow and possess a certain amount of marijuana. So I guess it is kind of legal here. It is still illegal as far as the Feds. are concerned. This prop. 215 works, I guess. You have to have a legit medical problem to get your prop. 215 card. I guess I can live with that form of "legality". What I wouldn't want to see is it being more legal, like tobacco. Any kid can get some form of tobacco, chew, smokes, whatever. Would we really want our youth taking hits from the bong as freely as they already smoke tobacco??? I wouldn't want it to be like that. On another angle, would we want or teachers and bus drivers, and cops, and fireman, etc. to be stoned??? Again, I wouldn't.
I have smoked my share of pot, but have no desire to anymore, so for "medical" purposes only I can agree with some legality.

[wazzledoozle]

Alec, I agree with you on Bill Clinton, BUT, I would myself have to add Ronald Regan to that list. Look at how he handled the Cold War, he was THE MAN that brought the hammer to the wall, etc., if you know what I meen.
On the marijuana issue: Well I live in California and we have this thing called prop. 215. It is such that with a doctors recommendation, you can grow and possess a certain amount of marijuana. So I guess it is kind of legal here. It is still illegal as far as the Feds. are concerned. This prop. 215 works, I guess. You have to have a legit medical problem to get your prop. 215 card. I guess I can live with that form of "legality". What I wouldn't want to see is it being more legal, like tobacco. Any kid can get some form of tobacco, chew, smokes, whatever. Would we really want our youth taking hits from the bong as freely as they already smoke tobacco??? I wouldn't want it to be like that. On another angle, would we want or teachers and bus drivers, and cops, and fireman, etc. to be stoned??? Again, I wouldn't.
I have smoked my share of pot, but have no desire to anymore, so for "medical" purposes only I can agree with some legality.
Well people can get drunk which impairs their ability to judge and motor skills just as bad or worse than marijuana, and anyone can walk into a store and buy beer.

People have to use these things responsibly, and they will as most people do with legal drugs right now. Of course you will have your idiots driving while high, but anyone who is willing to do that is probably already doing it. Prosecute the criminal drug abusers, not law abiding citizens having fun in their own homes.

[Alec§taar]

GLD, I'd rather see monies made on weed illegally, go to taxable products & also create legit and taxable income in the form of jobs... that's all!

:)

I know 1 thing: You can't stop people who are in the grip of vices of ANY kind... might as well NOT fight 'em, but use them to the national advantage as consumers of it who are taxed @ purchase time.

Prohibition was tried in the 1930's... successful? NO! Well, for organized crime it was... & no taxation gained either. Didn't work, & in fact, worked to disadvantage.

I've seen prostitution get legal in Las Vegas - there's another "Contradiction in Terms", why not everywhere else too? Regulate it so disease is kept down, & you make taxable products.

Casinos, & gambling - popping up ALL OVER THE COUNTRY? Do I agree w/ gambling?? No, not really... but, you cannot control folks to that extent imo - because after all? IT IS THEIR MONEY.

Heh, on a "side-note": Do you think the "war on drugs" is being waged effectively to its FULL extent? Heck no, I don't @ least!

It gives the "DEA" a 'raison d' etre', & they do NOT want it stopped, else they would invade columbia, mexico, & even B.C. Canada where weed is produced... & BURN THE FIELDS!

Think about it!

They're no more angels than the CIA was when it got caught smuggling in coke to finance their little "private wars"... that is fact as well!

APK

P.S.=> I wouldn't want to see folks "stoned" 24x7, but most folks imo @ least? Aren't! They keep sober when they need to, & after work etc. they can do what they please in my book @ least - just show up for the job ontime tomorrow & do what you're paid for... that's all!

You wanna drive stoned? YOU GET BUSTED FOR IT, just like DUI is for alcohol... simple! apk

[Cj_Staal]

There is an actual fact that
"the percentage of people making more money than middle-classed jobs has a higher pecent of pot smokers than those with middle-classed jobs... I'm talking about LAWYERS smoking; well shit, they know the real reason it was made illegal
oh yeah and that wasnt a direct quote

[wazzledoozle]

Anyone seen Half Baked? Awesome movie :D

[Cj_Staal]

never saw it yet... but imagine watching the matrix high... woah that would be deep

[wazzledoozle]

never saw it yet... but imagine watching the matrix high... woah that would be deep
Some good deep movies-
Donnie Darko
Fight Club
Matrix 1 :)
Oceans 11

[Cj_Staal]

good movie
Corkey Romano

[Alec§taar]

And, then there's that old-time "cult-classic" on the subject here:

"Reefer Madness"

http://www.rapbay.com/catalog/images/reefer%20madness.jpg

:)

(It is hilarious in a "StRaNgE" kind of way!)

APK

P.S.=> If you haven't seen it? Then do... apk

[Dippyskoodlez]

Marijuana doesnt cause cancer-
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12943013/



Also since marijuana does not have nicotine, it is not addictive unless you use it a LOT.


Actually, when smoked, it has almost if not the same effects as smokking (the SMOKE effect to lungs.. i.e. carcinigins)

[wazzledoozle]

Actually, when smoked, it has almost if not the same effects as smokking (the SMOKE effect to lungs.. i.e. carcinigins)
Yeah there is more tar in marijuana, but that also depends on how you smoke it. But I doubt it really matters unless you are smoking EVERY day or something.

[Cj_Staal]

The cannibinoids (well, 6 if you wnat to get specific) are the ones killing off aged/retarded/cancerous cells....

[Alec§taar]

Carcinogens, afaik? Are materials that have a HIGH likelyhood of causing cancer...

:)

APK

[Cj_Staal]

lies :)

[Cj_Staal]

Anyone saying "no" Please state your case :)

[GLD]

I guess with this thread what we get is, to see who the real resin heads are in the TPU community. :slap:

[Alec§taar]

I guess with this thread what we get is, to see who the real resin heads are in the TPU community. :slap:

LOL!

:)

Actually, I am a LOT more like you than you think, & hold your viewpoints on weed @ a personal level...

I guess what I was really trying to get across is, the fact you cannot deny human nature really, not forever.

Folks have ALWAYS had vices of various sorts, it is how we are! I know once folks are in the grip of them, only THEY can change themselves...

If you are an abuser of ANYTHING imo @ least? Eventually, you get tired of being sick & tired (or dead in some cases) is the saying, right?

Still, regardless: People are going to smoke pot, legal or not... why not make it a gain, instead of a loss (because that IS fighting a losing battle - just like 1930's prohibition of alcohol was, point-blank)?

Why fight w/ it, when it's NOT a real "problem causer"... use it to the advantage of a nation & tax the hell out of it, create a NEW industry around it (jobs), & get benefits out of it!

(Better than organized crime profiting by it imo @ least.)

* Turn a "problem" (note the quotes, that sarcasm) into an asset is all!

APK

[Chewy]

Legalize it and it should lean people away from the ilegal comunity of bad drugs.

I've quit smoking weed for over one year, at about 10 months I noticed a big leap in my memory. It might take 3 months or so to get it out of your blood/fat cells, but it lingers in your brain for longer I believe. (had a great arctical on Marajuana and its effects but I misplaced it).

I quit because of the cost and it was not helping me get anywhere in life, all my friends still smoke though :P.

[GLD]

I hear ya' Alec. Im not really disagreing with anyone here, or trying to in this post. The idea of legalizing it with the gov. taxing it, creating jobs etc. sounds great, but I see it as a double edges sword I guess. Here in the county I live in there is a no smoking ordenance. Can't smoke in public buildings, restaurants, even bars. Thank goodnees for that, I dislike second hand smoke. If I were in a public establishment in some other part of our great country, there may not be a no smoking ordenance, and I might get my ass kicked (stoned) by somebody smoking there doobie.
There are arguments for both sides, I know. Im not trying to sound like a tard, just giving my 2cents. (My signatre was on a petition to get CA. prop. 215 passed)

[Alec§taar]

Legalize it and it should lean people away from the ilegal comunity of bad drugs.

Absolutely. Big part of the point I was trying to get across above, in addition to economic incentives possible via its legalization.

I've quit smoking weed for over one year, at about 10 months I noticed a big leap in my memory. It might take 3 months or so to get it out of your blood/fat cells, but it lingers in your brain for longer I believe. (had a great arctical on Marajuana and its effects but I misplaced it).

That is going to happen, for sure - I "broke" a girl I used to live with of it, she came 1100 miles to live where I was from where I first met & dated her, & point #1 was "NO WEED IN HERE"...

She improved TONS & got her act together again (she had messed up pretty bad, I felt bad for her & imo, was only way to help her out again). Took about 9-10 months too iirc... I was happy for her in that regard. You could TELL there was an improvement in her mental facilities overall, period.

I have NO ISSUE w/ anyone that puffs pot, but you can abuse it like anything else (even food, sex, etc. & other pleasures in life).

I quit because of the cost and it was not helping me get anywhere in life, all my friends still smoke though :P.

That's true... you can save money breaking away from things!

:)

APK

P.S.=> The reason it lingers in your brain so long, is we are all "fat heads" basically... your brain is a mass of neurons, but insulated largely in FAT! What does weed stick to? Fat... it is a "fat soluble" compound, not water soluble... apk

[Dippyskoodlez]

I hear ya' Alec. Im not really disagreing with anyone here, or trying to in this post. The idea of legalizing it with the gov. taxing it, creating jobs etc. sounds great, but I see it as a double edges sword I guess. Here in the county I live in there is a no smoking ordenance. Can't smoke in public buildings, restaurants, even bars. Thank goodnees for that, I dislike second hand smoke. If I were in a public establishment in some other part of our great country, there may not be a no smoking ordenance, and I might get my ass kicked (stoned) by somebody smoking there doobie.
There are arguments for both sides, I know. Im not trying to sound like a tard, just giving my 2cents. (My signatre was on a petition to get CA. prop. 215 passed)


Sadly, with a republican run government, we will NEVER be able to legalize marijuana.

Why? The religious zealot mothers. Marijuana has earned a "reputation" that the religious assholes will never let it live down.

[Alec§taar]

Sadly, with a republican run government, we will NEVER be able to legalize marijuana.

Why? The religious zealot mothers. Marijuana has earned a "reputation" that the religious assholes will never let it live down.

Ah, it's a bunch of hooey!

They are the ones making monies from it illegally, because (and I have had some exposure to this type of people in my time sadly) it's NOT the "Street Dealer" who is usually the problem in the communities where drugs show up in ghettos etc. but businessmen importing it and paying off cops to "turn a blind eye" to them importing it in & distributing it 9/10 times!

They get ahold of, or pay off, lobbyist/special interest groups (like outraged moms looking for some "crutch" to soothe their anger/sadness/rage) & off they go... self-activating on auto-pilot screaming to high heaven... never knowing they are just puppets of the greater criminals out there, playing them to their OWN ends.

Why? Heck - so they can gain by it being illegal (tax free profits).

They are trying to assign it somekind of b.s. like that... it's just like how the Irish have their "catholic vs. protestant" mask around the REAL issue - a struggle for POWER! Political power...

APK

P.S.=> Put it THIS way: Anyone who tries to come off as "lily white/pure" etc.? Don't you trust them... that's about ALL I have to say about that! apk

[wazzledoozle]

Absolutely. Big part of the point I was trying to get across above, in addition to economic incentives possible via its legalization.



That is going to happen, for sure - I "broke" a girl I used to live with of it, she came 1100 miles to live where I was from where I first met & dated her, & point #1 was "NO WEED IN HERE"...

She improved TONS & got her act together again (she had messed up pretty bad, I felt bad for her & imo, was only way to help her out again).

I have NO ISSUE w/ anyone that puffs pot, but you can abuse it like anything else (even food, sex, etc. & other pleasures in life).



That's true... you can save money breaking away from things!

:)

APK

P.S.=> The reason it lingers in your brain so long, is we are all "fat heads" basically... your brain is a mass of neurons, but insulated largely in FAT! What does weed stick to? Fat... it is a "fat soluble" compound, not water soluble... apk
Is fat soluble the reason you get the munchies?

[Alec§taar]

Is fat soluble the reason you get the munchies?

Afaik no... that is a "side effect" of it lowering blood sugar or something & your bodies' trying to compensate for it & draw in more via nourishment.

:)

* Don't quote me on that one though, as that one I am NOT 110% sure of...

APK

[bigboi86]

See my subject-line/title above: Legalize it by ALL means!

(& tax the heck out of it (like liquor) & use the monies from said taxes to set the nation straight vs. the national debt, or even state-based debts!)

:)

* I have NEVER seen anyone be violent or commit violent crimes that smokes pot & imo @ least, it is nowhere near as dangerous as opiate type drugs like coke or heroin either!

Grow it nationally & create NEW JOBS too, an ENTIRE NEW INDUSTRY!

(Think about it folks...)

APK

P.S.=> You can't really stop folks from puffing weed, so the gov't. ought to get smart about it & use that to its advantage & make it legal (people that smoke it would be patriotic more-or-less, lol, helping the debt problems nations' have)...

It'd be better to see the monies from it go to taxes than illegal gain which is untaxed! apk

I figured it out... you get stoned and type your ass off during these posts :)

I'm the opposite.. I want to say a lot but fuck it.

[spectre440]

i have only two words on this topic:

hell yeah.

:D

[wazzledoozle]

i have only two words on this topic:

hell yeah.

:D
*looks at avatar

[G.T]

I guess with this thread what we get is, to see who the real resin heads are in the TPU community. :slap:
Those of us with domain names like ganjataz.com and ganjataz.co.uk can't really hide the fact we smoke weed. ;)

[G.T]

Some good deep movies-
Donnie Darko
Fight Club
Matrix 1 :)
Oceans 11
pfffft at least set the bar high dude.

Get stoned, watch Dune or 2001.

[bbriand]

pfffft at least set the bar high dude.

Get stoned, watch Dune or 2001.

Or Cosmos - Carl Sagan :D

[Solaris17]

pfffft at least set the bar high dude.

Get stoned, watch Dune or 2001.



fucking right dude the orig dune and 2001 that would fucking BLOW your mind id be fucked id be like......................o SHIT!!!........................:pimp:

[G.T]

The Directors version of Dune man, the cut to fuck version is just not as good.

Oh and how could I forget, Blade Runner is so worth watching when stoned. =]

random thought brought to you by bong productions inc.
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[Solaris17]

The Directors version of Dune man, the cut to fuck version is just not as good.

Oh and how could I forget, Blade Runner is so worth watching when stoned. =]


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DUDE BLADE RUNNER!!! iv been trying to buy that for so fucking long but i cant find it im pissed that would be another good one though

[Cj_Staal]

Woah, got a lot of vies, that's for shure.... I'ma be chillin today with friends yo :pimp:

[G.T]

/has a copy on VHS tape =]

Just hunt eBay. ;)

http://search.ebay.com/blade-runner

[Solaris17]

/has a copy on VHS tape =]

Just hunt eBay. ;)
http://search.ebay.com/blade-runner



EFFIN RIGHT DUDE THANK YOU!!!!

[Cj_Staal]

Who listens to AfroMan

[G.T]

EFFIN RIGHT DUDE THANK YOU!!!!
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[Cj_Staal]

Legalize?

[Cj_Staal]

You have to check the Avatar option in your control Panel.

[G.T]

Refresh your cache if you are still seeing your old avatar.

[Solaris17]

My b-day is 420


4-20-88

[Alec§taar]

Yes. Why can't I see it!

It's there, I can see it!

"I love you sweet leaf, though you can't hear... oh yea baby!" Ozzy Osbourne & Black Sabbath.

:)

* Man, you guys are STILL going @ it here... the view count is way, WAY up from last nite!

My b-day is 420


4-20-88

Solaris17: "BORN TO SMOKE WEED!"

("It is your destiny, Luke"...)

lol...

APK

P.S.=> 2:1 ratio in favor of marijuana legalization so far on this poll's vote-count!

That tells me by the time you guys are running things (you younger folks that is) you'll probably get right & make it a legal taxable product & build an entire industry around it to help "fix up" what the generation prior to mine ("The Baby Boomers") that is running things have MASSIVELY economically screwed up! apk

[Cj_Staal]

14 say yes (13 already yes and 1 convert)

[bbriand]

Its basically legal in Canada. You need something like an ounce before you get put in jail. Anything less is a personal fine - no record.

Bill

[spectre440]

Its basically legal in Canada. You need something like an ounce before you get put in jail. Anything less is a personal fine - no record.

Bill


lol, i can go through an ounce in about a week...

[G.T]

Last me about 3 days. =]

[Ketxxx]

lol i can see it now, instead of folk in the pub chanting and yelling "down it! down it! down it!" their all gonna be yelling "puff! puff! puff! puff! puff!" :D

[Cj_Staal]

Yooo I'm So High Right Now!

[wazzledoozle]

Yooo I'm So High Right Now!
Hey dude I heard you can overclock your mouse by putting it in the microwave. Increases the DPI of the laser.

[Cj_Staal]

haha not THAT high :)

[bigboi86]

Yooo I'm So High Right Now!

OMFG cool dude!

[strick94u]

Doesn't it kill short term memory?
what kills short term?huh?

[OOTay]

Yooo I'm So High Right Now!

figures...

[Cj_Staal]

wow ootay, anti-marijuana? You should read the links

[Alec§taar]

wow ootay, anti-marijuana? You should read the links

He does have a point - weed doesn't exactly HELP your brain @ all, it hinders it to high hell IF you constantly smoke it!

I.E.-> THC creates barriers around brain cell neurons since they are largely insulated in FAT, & THC? Fat soluble ONLY!

(That hinders transmission of electrical impulse between neurons signalling, iirc, @ the serotonin level... it's evident too, in what was called a "burnout" in my day (heavy pot smoker)).

My point about it was a "human nature" one, you can't deny it - folks are gonna do what pleases them/makes them happy etc. & vice is a part of that 9/10 times in most folks!

Hey... we've ALL got those to some extent & depending on what you classify as vice.

E.G. #1 - Some folks are "workaholics"...

To me, @ least?

That's vice as well, albeit a monetary profit one that sometimes you lose health due to practicing it... even GOOD things can harm!

Eat too much? You get fat & risk your life too, if you don't offset it with diet &/or exercise... too much of a "Good Thing" can wreck you too...

E.G. #2 - Sex? Heh, go @ it TOO much w/ too many folks, you end up w/ an "STD" eventually (it IS a numbers game here & dangerous too)... if not dead via AIDS/HIV, &/or Herpes, a lifelong curse!

Anyhow - since you can't stop folks from enjoying vices like drugs?

Why fight it??

Make it legal, take away organized crime's profits & apply it to a taxable good, & a new industry that creates jobs (& thus, more taxable income, PLUS disposable income in folk's wallets/purses)

See, imo @ least & the fact that 10% of the U.S.' population controls 90% of its wealth?

The fact is (sad one in a way, others not) - most folks, sad to say, are lousy @ saving money (the Holy T.V. makes sure of this telling you "IF YOU DRINK THIS BEER, you will get women" & b.s. like that, lol).

It's NOT necessarily bad either - what YOU spend, helps the next guy stay alive... it all comes back around to YOU too (in that the company you work for sells its inventories, & yes on an accounting balance sheet? Carrying costs are a LIABILITY, not an asset, & that is what inventories not selling are classed as)... it's a symbiotic circle of a system (economics).

This is WHY "downsizing" is a DUMB ASS IDEA in essence & ESPECIALLY in the longterm, as well as "outsourcing" because the monies for wages are not totally spent internally to YOUR local economy or national one...

Do think about that!

The cause imo? The Stock Market & greed inherent in it... not mgt.!

Think about it... Prohibition didn't work in the U.S.A. in the 1930's for squat, other than letting organized crime profit (lol, & the Kennedy family too - illustrating it IS the "rich man" making monies from illegal drugs & what-not perfectly in them!)

APK

P.S.=> Turn "big brothers" methods against him I say - USE druggies who do weed to the advantage, make it an industry... just like how the wealthy payoff law enforcement, politicians, & use special interest groups/lobbyists to THEIR advantage (keep weed illegal, keep getting tax free profits, especially at the HUGE top level @ kilos/tons of profits, which face it, poor ghetto street dealers are just tools here as well)... apk

[Solaris17]

wow ootay, anti-marijuana? You should read the links

easy cj and alec he just said figures that doesnt mean he doesnt like it or that he's against it. He could have just been picking on cj ;)

[Alec§taar]

easy cj and alec he just said figures that doesnt mean he doesnt like it or that he's against it. He could have just been picking on cj ;)

Could be, I wasn't picking on anyone, but making solid points... ones I invite discussion/debate/dispute over.

I am ALL for legalization of pot... for economic health reasons, not personal ones...

APK

[Solaris17]

LOL



sorry that made me laugh for some reason o alec your one of my favorites. lolhahahahqahaahahahahaha

[Alec§taar]

Stupid Bush wants to up his ratings (why would he, its his last term?) so he wants the stupid "christian mothers" on his side and by doing that he will veto any bill that is pro abortion, marijuana, gay marrige, macs and stem cell research, and I am pro all of these.

Bush... he is FAR from stupid! Believe you me... he "plays stupid" imo, to keep folks off guard against his REAL machinations w/ "Darth Cheney"...

I.E.-> The republican party in this nation is TYPICALLY "wealthy" or those trying to ride the wealthy's coattails... think the "ghetto street dealer" has the means, or brains/saavy/connections to import from Columbia or Mexico for instance?

Sometimes yea, he does (see the film "BLOW" w/ Johnny Depp - a true story based on George Jung, the original cocaine king of the west coast in cahoots with none other than Pablo Escobar)... but not most times & NOT at the ghetto level!

OR, think the typical street dealer spends the cash to spend paying off law enforcement @ national or local levels to turn the blind eye (yes, they do, but not like the "big cheese behind it all" does, including political payoffs/kickbacks)?

NO way... but, the "rich man" (for whom there is NEVER enough dough to be stolen if possible), does.

IMO, & the CIA bore this out for me, as well as the Kennedy family bootlegging whisky during prohibition!

The rich in collusion/collaboration w/ organized crime import the drugs, profit by them tax-free as well... legalize weed, make it taxable & create jobs for an industry around it??

You get a healthier overall economy.

APK

P.S.=> Ever heard of "Special Interest Groups", or "lobbyists"? Well, if you haven't see the film "The Aviator" & get a picture of WHO really runs nations (the powerful & wealthy do, those who control the money, control the people... banking, media, politics, etc. you name it)... they turn folks with a gripe into THEIR advantage!

Take a pissed off Mom whose son Junior is a heroin addict & give her some funding? Her nature as a Mom is a weapon in YOUR favor (as the drug importer for sure... & imo, the rich & powerful do that level of the drug trade for pure tax free profits)... her passion is convincing, & it keeps weed illegal.

Thus, the true "puppet masters" importing drugs keep getting away with tax free profits.

Prohibition is a PRIME example of trying to "squash" vice - didn't work for normal folks, & organized crime profited hugely. The Kennedy family did as well (in case you didn't know that & it is a PRIME EXAMPLE of the "rich getting richer" keeping things illegal guys).

Or, didn't our own CIA show anyone this when they were caught importing cocaine into the U.S. for sale to finance weapons for their own "puppets" in other nations? apk

[Alec§taar]

sorry that made me laugh for some reason o alec your one of my favorites. lolhahahahqahaahahahahaha

Well, my point is this:

You guys, you young folks? You're the future... seize you, we can seize a BETTER future, because I am sick as "PHUCK" over what I see going on out there now... aren't you?

:)

* The damn "Baby Boomers" (post WWII U.S. folks iirc is what this classifies out to be, born prior to 1965 as of this year 2006)?

They have screwed it ALL up bad... too greedy!

The Stock market is the PRIME CAUSE of this too... it's no better than a casino, & that is geared to take YOUR MONEY, always, & if it was built on a foundation of winners mostly? There would be no casino... it would be impractical.

Same with stock brokers, banks, insurance companies, oil companies... heck, you win or lose? They ALWAYS win!

(or haven't the stock & mgt. scams of the past 20 years shown any of you this? All "short-term/immediate profits" oriented... not long term.)

Heh, think this harms companies/corporate bodies? LOL, not! IT gets passed back in increased prices to you & I as end-users/consumers... that's all! The very ROOT of inflation in fact... that & credit.

They grew up in prosperity... that makes for greed. You taste the GOOD life, you'll do nearly ANYTHING to keep it... including thinking short-term.

(Ever wonder WHY boxers for example, do better when they are poor? They are HUNGRY for more... you make them "soft" & they screwup by getting lazy!)

That, or they turn into 'short term profit oriented' greedy monsters, just like the Baby Boomers did, & who pays?

YOU AND ME!

APK

[Solaris17]

Well, my point is this:

You guys, you young folks? You're the future... seize you, we can seize a BETTER future, because I am sick as "PHUCK" over what I see going on out there now... aren't you?

:)

APK


as much as id love to discuss it and trust me alec i do this is not the thread for it we cant be having any high jacks now can we ;) so


back to pot.

[Alec§taar]

as much as id love to discuss it and trust me alec i do this is not the thread for it we cant be having any high jacks now can we ;) so

back to pot.

It all relates man... a vicious symbiotic circle.

:(

* I would read what I wrote, analyse it for weakness, & just think it over!

for some reason o alec your one of my favorites

I am glad you say that, because again: I feel obligated to expose you guys to things, and make you think about the future... AND, to make you find weakness in MY statements too!

(ONLY MAKES ME STRONGER, & YOU TOO + both of us, better informed)

APK

P.S.=> You ARE the future you know, like it or not (AND, your kids' future, your unborn)... AND, it is in your hands to a large extent! apk

[bigboi86]

figures...

It's not that I don't like weed.. I smoke it everyday.. but I think that should be my own personal business...

Bragging about doing drugs isn't smart.

[Alec§taar]

So is hitlers

Was hitler "bad" for germany?

(... or was he just bad for those that control the media, banking & finance, medicine, & law + politics today?)

All in the eye of the beholder, & those that control publishing houses in media of ALL forms, legal field, politics, & 90% of the wealth worldwide... wake up.

His methods were outrageous, but not w/ out cause... did you know the Jews were warned to leave Germany, MONTHS before anything happened to them?

Above all else - you have to ask yourselves this: WHY WERE THEY ASKED TO LEAVE? There are solid reasons you won't read about... no, that's never mentioned!

They are shunned & disliked thruout history worldwide... why is that?

Gee, I wonder why? Because the "infamous they" that control the presses, legal & political system & banking since WW I make it so as to WHY you never hear the other side of the story perhaps...?

Remember - GERMANY is not the United States. It is THEIR house, telling someone how to live in someone's house or not leaving when asked? Well, the results spoke for themselves.

APK

P.S.=> You have to remember one thing - 1/2 of what you're told is b.s., & geared to misinform you... remember that. You have to go to the horses mouth sometimes to ask, just like verifying what you see in tests online yourself on your PC regarding programs you use, or hardware etc. NOT ON WHAT YOU READ/HEAR... apk

[magibeg]

Well hitler was good for germany but bad for everyone else! Bush is borderline retarded (according to an IQ test based on speech patterns he scores a lowly 88). Money does run everything. So its no wonder we need legal pot... its to relaxe us from everything being so messed up :P


-I have also heard the jews practise aggressive business tactics however, you can't group them like that because theres always going to be a rotten few in any situation. Hitler had a vision of a 'perfect' race and the jewish people were not part of that :P.

[Alec§taar]

Well hitler was good for germany but bad for everyone else!

Bad, because just like the war in the middleeast today (& this comes back to special interest groups w/ political power & money out the ass)?

It dragged us into it... ALL major wars start this way: Some little bitch brother goes running for backup like a coward would is why. Everytime, show me otherwise in the case of WWI & WWII for example...

Bush is borderline retarded (according to an IQ test based on speech patterns he scores a lowly 88). Money does run everything. So its no wonder we need legal pot... its to relaxe us from everything being so messed up :P

Bush isn't running it, he's just a figurehead (Cheney is the main man imo @ least, in collusion with Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, Kellogg Brown & Root, & all other "war profiteers" while guys like my brother and possibly yours too, get shot at for it... you young folks? YOU fight the old rich man's wars for him)

Those that gain, are. Corporate America... you got it right, BIG money does...

APK

[Solaris17]

So is hitlers


so was cpt. sulu's

met that guy really cool.

[magibeg]

Well bush is definately a puppet. He could be 'playing' dumb but theres just some of his sentences that just can't have been made up. For example think back to the debate between him and kerry. That is the one time you dont want to look like an idiot, but he still did... (and still won the election somehow which makes me wonder how many people were actually watching the debate. Supposidly the 'southern factor' has to do with it).

The difference between hitler and what happened in the middle east was that hitler was actually seeking out other countries to take over where in the middle east WE got involved because its in our interest to use the oil. Hitler had a vision.

Strangely enough communism is essentially the perfect government. The other thing that stops it from working perfectly (look at ants for example) is human nature. Why we're stuck in a democracy run by people who munipulate other people :P

[Alec§taar]

Well bush is definately a puppet. He could be 'playing' dumb but theres just some of his sentences that just can't have been made up. For example think back to the debate between him and kerry. That is the one time you dont want to look like an idiot, but he still did...

The perfect disguise, the guy you NEVER see coming imo @ least... play dumb, nobody thinks you have the smarts to be TRULY dangerous... & imo?

Smart people, the masters of psychology & sociology + monetary & political clout & saavy with GOOD education??

THEY ARE TRULY THE MOST DANGEROUS OPPONENT THERE IS. The "Brain Villain" not the "Soldier Villain" in essence...

Especially when they control what is fed to the easily stirred up & lazy masses that aren't willing to QUESTION things they hear/see!

Easy example from forums: Do you read every word of every URL someone puts out as evidence? Do you seek contradicatory info. that might dispute it, or accept it as "the word of God himself"??

I hope not!

Think about it... think your news isn't "edited for effect" in newpapers or t.v. media to favor one political party or viewpoint over the other contradictory one?

Wake up if you think not!

(This is the #1 lesson I got from my collegiate HISTORY professors & philosophy teachers in fact, Jesuits: QUESTION EVERYTHING! Get those 2nd doctors opinions & don't believe the hype of "4/5 dentists chew trident" because I took a TON of statistical mathematics in my time & they teach you 1 lesson - always question the sample set used for a particular statistic).

AND (edit part) DON'T THINK THE VICTORS DON'T REWRITE HISTORY BOOKS! Very important... especially if they control the media & presses as well as legal & political trades/arenas!

Heh, let's put this @ "street level" - ever see a guy get picked on that just sits there & does nothing & takes it? That is, until he knocks the hell out of the bully bugging him... usually that bully "takes it easy, or is not threatened" & gets taken off guard & blown the hell away...

(and still won the election somehow which makes me wonder how many people were actually watching the debate. Supposidly the 'southern factor' has to do with it).

Yea, lol... Ohio polls & voting booths being shut off... Florida in the election before it... gee, real undisputable stuff, eh?

(The primaries... the tool which is what determines these "key states" in the b.s. electoral college process - NOT a democratic vote by any means: ONE GEARED BY SPINMASTERS FOR REPUBLICANS to know which states they have to 'twist' things in their favor for no less).

Yes, the United States was founded as a republic, that much I concede, but we are supposed to be a democracy NOW... catering to the majority.

Does the electoral college do this? Hell no... it allows the controllers & gamesters their odds & what to concentrate on - pure sociological weaponry.

Wake up if you think otherwise!

Now, some will say "Oh, what about states like Kansas, who have less poplulation? They won't be represented fairly?"

TOO BAD! Get more populace by running your state right maybe, & you will get the populace... wake up guys, the electoral college is bullshit.

Your 32-bit PC could could nearly the ENTIRE PLANET'S POPULATION VOTE, w/ 4 billion digit numbers possible in it... 64-bit? Heck, for generations to come...

Why isn't the actual majority represented then? Read the above, & WAKE UP!

The difference between hitler and what happened in the middle east was that hitler was actually seeking out other countries to take over where in the middle east WE got involved because its in our interest to use the oil. Hitler had a vision.

And, BUSH in his "war for freedom" (who's freedom? War profiteers & oil men?) isn't doing the same, albeit via a dishonest mask of b.s. (that I will give hitler, he said it STRAIGHT OUT, not masking it with easily seen thru crap).

Strangely enough communism is essentially the perfect government. The other thing that stops it from working perfectly (look at ants for example) is human nature. Why we're stuck in a democracy run by people who munipulate other people :P

In theory... & I think I said that earlier on these forums myself, same thing (search communism on the forums categories wide)...

APK

[Alec§taar]

Are you talking to me?

I quoted you, about Hitler (editing it in)... but it was a general commentary on my views on him, NOT the mass media's! I am entitled to THAT much!

So... I don't know, am I?

Are you afraid of something I stated??

(Why if so??? Remember - in my nation I can state anything I want, it is up to others to read it is all, & if they accept it, great... if not? Why worry??)

:)

* Ever think I may be talking to ME? Might surprise you...

(You're Russian Jewish, aren't you? Right?? Bet I am... Your reaction is typical, & I have seen & dealt w/ it a zillion times already on this particular topic - if not, why the reaction to my statements above???? After all, they were NOT directed or addressed to YOU, specifically)

APK

P.S.=> Psychology my boy... pure psychology.

Now, you I know some things about from your posts:

E.G.-> You ought to be able to SMOKE me here, you are the person with the 200++ IQ, right? After all, didn't you state that in the IQ thread (& I was the ONLY person there that actually posted their results... nobody else did, very funny).

I bet you say I am a Nazi, a racist, etc. et al (not very effective reply, but go for it, you have no idea who you are talking with as far as racial/ethnic background & I warned about that already for your sake in fact above).

Name calling isn't effective...

E.G.-> When you call someone a name, think it is what hurts THEM? You have NO idea w/ out research what hurts anyone, you cannot read their mind... can you?? Heh, maybe, you can... just judging by reactions (never let anyone see you sweat).

BUT, when you toss names, or react accusing others as you have me of attacking YOU in particular?

Well, you surely give away what hurts you now, don't you???

"Nothing hurts like the truth" now, does it... now, what exactly bothers you about my statements?

You're free to dispute them...

I will listen, but it may suprise you I am talking more to myself than anyone... I'll tell you more about that after I hear your reply! apk

[Solaris17]

Well alec you sure opened it up know haha. and I might even jump in young yes but it would surprise you the things I can talk about and still keep it mature though i am legaly an adult since when does physical age represent ones maturety level?

[Cj_Staal]

OMGG my first, very sentimental bowl just broke :cry:

[Alec§taar]

Well alec you sure opened it up know haha.

Always... I am by NO MEANS afraid to by any stretch of the imagination... just to get guys your age & folks your age to look things over CAREFULLY, & question anything you see, by ALL means!

Just like you do info. about PC's & such!

That includes my statements, & I have said that repeatedly thru here in fact... even in the tail end of what russianboy quotes above in fact, in very real essence.

and I might even jump in young yes but it would surprise you the things I can talk about and still keep it mature though i am legaly an adult since when does physical age represent ones maturety level?

Please do - I take on ALL comers...

:)

APK

[Solaris17]

im sorry to hear that cj i have to get off my ass and build a new one

as for you alec haha take on? whats to say i wasnt on your side to begin with?

[Alec§taar]

im sorry to hear that cj i have to get off my ass and build a new one

as for you alec haha take on? whats to say i wasnt on your side to begin with?

It's not about argument man... it's about ANALYSIS!

:)

* I dunno, 200++ IQ is taking a LONG while to reply to what I wrote out in seconds...

APK

[Solaris17]

* I dunno, 200++ IQ is taking a LONG while to reply to what I wrote out in seconds...

APK


WTF? are you challenging me?





*Edit* lol this convo is taking off faster than the main page can update who posted last.

[Alec§taar]

WTF? are you challenging me?

LOL, no... in the IQ thread from a few days ago, Russianboy CLAIMS to have a 200++ IQ, but we never saw his results, or anyone's from the website it was taken on by numerous amounts of us...

Afaik? Heck - I was the ONLY one who posted his results (mine) in fact for all to see!

Now, his utterly "odd" defensive reaction noted earlier, as if I were talking directly to him... telling you ANYTHING?

It does me... read my posts closing the last page, says it all - pure psychology, judging based on a reactionary remark directed DEFINITELY my way!

Ah, closest you CAN come to reading someone's mind, IS reading their reactions... just like a lie detector does in essence!

APK

P.S.=> He's taking a awful long time to reply to my post, after he confronted me on mine (where mine was just generically directed to ANYONE reading, nobody in particular)...

Funny, for a 200++ IQ he isn't coming back very fast now, is he? I rattle off my stuff in seconds... literally!

The time being taken, I'll wager, is talking to others of his "kind" to try to get the better of me, so I don't influence you all... lol!

Seen it before... & I welcome it.

NOW the TRULY funny part is, it's going to surprise the HELL out of him just who is his kind as well... or, what I strongly suspect it to be based on reaction (& POSSIBLE accusations etc. I may get in reply from him later) directed MY way, directly - this is how I interpreted it... apk

[Cj_Staal]

I looooveedd my pipe... the memories with the po-po and all

[Alec§taar]

I looooveedd my pipe... the memories with the po-po and all

It's an omen man...

:)

* LAY OFF THE WEED DUDE!

(lol!)

APK

P.S.=> At some point today, I have to take off, but will read these later... keep it factual, no name tossing please etc. if it gets outta hand. This is all about learning, & getting stronger... that's all!

EDIT PART - it's doubtless going to "degenerate" into an "Ad-hominum" attack directed my way, I have seen it before as I state above (not too effective though imo @ least, attack my points, not me - I never attacked anyone in particular, but was strangely accused of it for some "STRANGE" reason, lol)... apk

[Cj_Staal]

I'm thinking about getting this
http://shop.grasscity.com/images/item_detail/mdbu4_600.jpg
Whatcha guys think?

[Alec§taar]

I'm thinking about getting this Whatcha guys think?

To quote Mr. Spock, from Star Trek original series episode (and title of my current system) "The Doomsday Machine":

"You have that right: BUT, I would advise against it"

:)

* I admire you one thing Cj_Staal - you're a man w/ out fear & I respect that!

(It's a real rarity today in a world of what I call "not men" - G.T. is another here imo as well, he lets his nuts hang as you younger folks say!)

Sure, some folks call folks like that stupid, but I have little respect for those kinds of people... they're weasels, & collaborators, that is all.

However, I know folks like Cj_Staal, &/or G.T. don't have much to hide & are SURE of themselves too...

(They're not pussies and cowards who have had big money bail their ass & hide it a time or two when they did screwup, and talk behind someone's back weasels & sleep well @ nite because of it!)

Because personally? I never judged a man by the size of his wallet... ever!

APK

P.S.=> No fear of being "politically correct", the b.s. line of the 20th & 21st century & the maker of MEN into freaking WEAK ASS MICE, from a media controlled by puppet masters (or, so they would like to think & their BIGGEST single mistake throughout history... that, & greed to NO end)!

(And, STILL I am waiting on 200++ IQ reply... gotta 'rattle his cage' a bit, because I took his statement as confronting me, I did respond to his hitler statement earlier, so imo, his question was "non-sequitur" & he ought to know I was replying to him) apk

[Cj_Staal]

oh man alec, I couldn't understand that :)

[Alec§taar]

oh man alec, I couldn't understand that :)

You'd have to see that episode from "Star Trek" the original series...

:)

* One of those things... "you had to be there", or just get a GOOD solid viewpoint from someone who WAS there, & not edited for effect in their replay of it (like our media today does)!

APK

[GLD]

These long arse post in this thread, I wonder if the resin heads have the attention span to sit there and finish the read? :roll:

[Alec§taar]

These long arse post in this thread, I wonder if the resin heads have the attention span to sit there and finish the read? :roll:

LOL!

:)

* Good point, but I imagine some will or are... it's fairly interesting stuff!

APK

[GLD]

I don't smoke the stuff anymore, but have found my self loosing my concentration on some of the long reads. So I would dare to say, that if you smoked as much as I had when I was younger, you to may find yourself with a clouded attention span. Beware of the copious bong hits, beware! :slap:

[GLD]

I'm thinking about getting this
http://shop.grasscity.com/images/item_detail/mdbu4_600.jpg
Whatcha guys think?


That thing looks like part of the female reproductive organs to me. :eek:

[straybeat]

See my subject-line/title above: Legalize it by ALL means!

(& tax the heck out of it (like liquor) & use the monies from said taxes to set the nation straight vs. the national debt, or even state-based debts!)

:)

* I have NEVER seen anyone be violent or commit violent crimes that smokes pot & imo @ least, it is nowhere near as dangerous as opiate type drugs like coke or heroin either!

Grow it nationally & create NEW JOBS too, an ENTIRE NEW INDUSTRY!

(Think about it folks...)

APK

P.S.=> You can't really stop folks from puffing weed, so the gov't. ought to get smart about it & use that to its advantage & make it legal (people that smoke it would be patriotic more-or-less, lol, helping the debt problems nations' have)...

It'd be better to see the monies from it go to taxes than illegal gain which is untaxed! apk

There is a large number of us that have been saying this exact thing for about 37 years now. It really surprised us when Gore Vidal agreed (look him up if you're too young).

Stray

[Alec§taar]

I don't smoke the stuff anymore, but have found my self loosing my concentration on some of the long reads.

Yup, & I would wager there is a HUGE correlation & body of solid research to support that VERY point.

My point is, don't fight something you can't win...

That's DUMB!

BUT, if possible?

Instead, do turn it into an asset if possible (very optimistic person here, because the best laid plans of mice & men... nobody knows ALL the possible outcomes of any given situation. For every thing you can think of? 10 more will go wrong is what I have found... you have to be smart ahead of time & think of a LOT of "plan B's")

Legalizing pot, is imo @ least?

A GOOD economic move (you can't fight folks in the grip of vice imo, & they can only change themselves... sounds like you have, kudos! Wisdom, whatever THAT is, comes with age, & in some ways? So does stupidity!)

Create taxable product from it, & a job creating industry... instead of feeding organized crime & untaxed profit.

I think you know where I am coming from here, on ALL fronts mentioned. It sounds it.

So I would dare to say, that if you smoked as much as I had when I was younger, you to may find yourself with a clouded attention span. Beware of the copious bong hits, beware! :slap:

You are the voice of experience, albeit only one, but still the voice of having been there & gotten loose!

I know guys that "bong out" &/or "drink like fishes" & rock @ things... even over years of it! Some folks are just "unbreakable", lol!

:)

* I don't knock anyone for their vices! I have mine, no doubt about it, but had to back off from quite a few... they were getting the better of me, or knocking me for loops of various kinds!

(All in moderation: Food, Sex, Drugs, Alcohol, Gambling, you name it... even working!)

APK

[Cj_Staal]

:) I always do :)
(read long posts)

[magibeg]

Whats this about an iq thread? and about someone with a 200+ iq? The smartest known man in american rght now has an IQ of 196 so someone having a 200 iq is hard to believe. Mensa only needs a 132 IQ to get in and there are various other elite groups out there which someone with an iq that high could join. 1 in 30 people can join mensa but i believe its something like 1 in 10 million have an iq above 160.

[Alec§taar]

Whats this about an iq thread? and about someone with a 200+ iq?

Search the "General Nonsense" area... it's there OR should be (edit part)!

I think POGE (or one of the other mods/admins here in fact I am fairly certain of) started the thread up in fact, to see if our results would be consistent w/ what we've seen before on other tests like it in our pasts.

The smartest known man in american rght now has an IQ of 196 so someone having a 200 iq is hard to believe.

Others stated that in the thread as well, as well as some saying anyone stating that is full of it etc. (I don't know either way, I only know what tests like those tell me & they HAVE been consistent for me, varying 10-15 points either way).

One guy stated in it he had a 139 IQ in his profile too, but his test score disappointed him... it's possible he had an "off day" & the test was WAY diff. than what he had before too!

Mensa only needs a 132 IQ to get in and there are various other elite groups out there which someone with an iq that high could join. 1 in 30 people can join mensa but i believe its something like 1 in 10 million have an iq above 160.

I was invited to 10++ years ago, did not feel like being "the idiot amongst the savants" or the idiot savant (this lol, is what my sister calls me to get my goat in fact, lol!).

Family - they DO know how to "push our buttons" don't they?

APK

[Alec§taar]

There is a large number of us that have been saying this exact thing for about 37 years now. It really surprised us when Gore Vidal agreed (look him up if you're too young).

Stray

Yea well... you KNOW who's holding it back! Those that profit by it HUGELY, & it's not that corner dope dealer 9/10 times.

(ALL done via special interest groups & lobbyists they pay off & use as tools... sociology & psychology, VERY POWERFUL tools!)

I.E. -> Use the nature of people & things against people & things... (by all means, & PROFIT by it, standing in the shadows behind the curtain like the Wizard of OZ, laughing all the while on the way to the SWISS or Kamen Island offshore account bank - you know, where the dirty money goes!)

E.G.-> Believe me - I don't knock MADD (mothers against drunk driving) or others like them, but they should be reading between the lines too, & study who funds them. I feel for them the most, they're Mom's!

Still - Every time a law passes? ALWAYS ASK YOURSELF - who is REALLY gaining by it, and how... then, you start seeing the skull behind the mask of a smiling face imo!

APK

[Alec§taar]

Woah, I just said that 4-20 was Hitlers birthday for fun, not so I get flamed and change the subject. (and here I am wondering why everyone is talking about Hitler, lol).

My bad then - I may have misinterpreted you, & I took it for a confrontational attack! I mean, you SAW I quoted you, so why ask?

:)

* Still, are you Russian Jewish? Don't answer if you don't want to, because it REALLY doesn't matter!

(See, I have had SO many russian jews & jews in general attack me for my views, it's nuts... not attacking points I put up, but me personally ad-hominum etc. et al)

The IQ thread though... what DID happen to that? I just searched it... gone??

APK

P.S.=> No, I am not a Nazi, or Racist (Polish & yes, part Jewish here) & I have heard it ALL directed my way as far as racism & such... doesn't bother me really, I know better!

You can say what you want imo & in this nation especially - if others don't like it? Tough... it's opinion (albeit sometimes backed by fact, not from history books that are "filtered" for particular viewpoints & yes, it happens LARGE (editorial staffs galore))... apk

[GLD]

I thought this was a thread on marijuana, not race or religion. :confused:

[Alec§taar]

The "infamous IQ Thread" is here:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=14506

:)

APK

[GLD]

An experiment anyone? Take the IQ test on a sober day, then take it again on a stoned day and reply with both results. :p

[Alec§taar]

I thought this was a thread on marijuana, not race or religion. :confused:

It's not, but I am stating part of WHY I took the tack I did...

First of all: I felt confronted!

Russianboy asked me if I was talking to him, I quoted him... he may have felt that way, or not, but it was directed to EVERYONE/ANYONE reading is all!

(Plus, usually I have found that if someone states hitler stuff in my experience? Well, I say what I do, out of experience from being attacked on it... & won't back down on my views on it either, unless someone can show me different.)

I got part of what I know from it from books, others from folks that lived thru it (including my own family who were in Hitler's labor camps, & also German folks themselves - I like seeing BOTH sides, of any picture).

APK

P.S.=> Books, histories, news... it all gets edited! apk

[drade]

Dont drink and drive, get high and fly

[Alec§taar]

No, I am not screaming at you and calling you racist...yet (J/K). Yes I am Jewish/Orthodox.

I knew it (I used the force luke, lol)... I am in part, see above.

About the I.Q. I don't know. My dad has and I.Q. of 186 I am not sure of my moms but my family puts education first. (and Simpsons second:) ) I didn't post a link because after the IQ I was watching porn and had to clear the history, lol.

It varies by tests, & how you're feeling that day, your reading ability & TONS more... I don't put a TON of stock into those, anymore than I do a synthetic benchmarking program (both indicate POTENTIAL only - 3dmark isn't playing REAL games we own for example, & IQ Tests aren't life or your work performance etc.! POTENTIAL only then only some of that... the rest is personal character & will imo + work ethics).

No hard feelings, I thought you hated me or something after I posted the 4-20 thing

None, we're the same folks (slavic tribal descendants & also jews)... but, I get REALLY defensive whenever hitler comes up, been attacked on it MANY times!

(My jew friends think I am an ass for my views, but they are my HONEST opinions, based on not only filtrated books, but from those that went thru it, Germans, Poles, Jews, & yes, Russians alike).

APK

P.S.=> Afaik, & this is some trivia? Hitler was also part Jewish from what I understand, but it may be b.s. (something about Herr Schickelgruber etc.) apk

[Alec§taar]

I guess so.

My man, I KNOW so... I don't trust what the TOOB tells me anymore, or even books.

See, I was in Canada years ago, after hearing U.S. news one nite, & heard a TOTALLY diff. story while across U.S. borders... it taught me A LOT!

Besides I get REALLY pissed when Im talking to someone and they say, you can't be Jewish, your Russian and I'm like "your thinking of Nazis" and they are like "thats right, you cant be Jewish if your GERMAN" (isn't that the most inaccurate thing you ever heard)

Sure you can be... why not? I agree here...

Just another symptom of the RPG virus, most of Germany was Jew.

What bothers me is, nobody states German folks' views on it, or other European nations... it's ALL too one-sided!

I also get defensive, my familyt was through the Holocaust AND Chernobyl. Talk about hardship.

Same here... Polish side mostly on the latter one!

APK

[Cj_Staal]

http://www.student.cs.uwaterloo.ca/~jthean/ThreadDirection.jpg

[Alec§taar]

http://www.student.cs.uwaterloo.ca/~jthean/ThreadDirection.jpg

"Oh, IT'S TWOO" Lily Langtree, Blazing Saddles...

:)

* LOL!

APK

P.S.=> Anyhow/anyways, I have my views on this & stated them for what I think are legitimate reasons for the good of economies worldwide (legalize weed dammit, & tax it for monies to offset the national debt & create an industry with it making jobs, creating disposable income on folks parts further fueling economic engines!)

AND - stop letting organized crime run by big business & rich men or @ least they are in collusion w/ it, run away w/ tax free monies as they are & I am utterly convinced they are!

(I have seen, first hand, some things that might blow a few folks corks in my time is why that "verified" it for me for myself)

Plus, the CIA being caught importing coke & selling it to U.S. Citizenry no less!

(That imo, is the really dangerous stuff with PCP, Heroin, opiates in general)

ALL to fund their offshore wars & puppet gov't.'s out there, & seeing folks like the Kennedy family get rich running booze during Prohibition (a total failure that ONLY really aided & abetted crime profits)... apk

[OOTay]

easy cj and alec he just said figures that doesnt mean he doesnt like it or that he's against it. He could have just been picking on cj ;)

hes right i was picking on cj.

[Batou1986]

guess i put my 2 cents in well actualy its worth a lil more than 2 cents now :respect: the :pimp:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/MthcSephiroth/DSC01868.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/MthcSephiroth/DSC01867.jpg

yes that is my hand and do not live in the us

[Batou1986]

no

[Alec§taar]

"Holy Smoke" (literally, in regard to the photos above)

:)

(Pardon me Lord, don't mean to associate you w/ weed (even though you built it & all that) & especially not to use your name in vain (& yes, I mean this much, it's NOT sarcasm from my end) not that I really did use the Lord's name in vain, but... being safe & all that & sincere too!)

"God don't build no junk" as the saying goes... so, that said? HOW BAD CAN WEED REALLY BE?

APK

[Cj_Staal]

Just smoked a 3 gram blunt of regs then a 1 gram blunt of haze then a bowl then I packed the bluntclip in a bowl :)
Woah, today turned out good
Expecially since i was so close to getting laid
but a bum was following us so we couldn't do anything :(

[Cj_Staal]

Don't got anymore... but I'ma have some tomorrow... and the next day and then wendsday my friend is gettibng 3 ounces

[bigboi86]

Can you send me some?

Why are you trying to get someone to send you something dude? That just looks bad...

Sending weed through the mail is a federal offense.. you, or anyone on this forum isn't worth going to jail for.. so um.. I highly doubt someone is going to do you this kind of favor.

Oh, and Batou1986, you might wanna get some bigger pots soon. ;)

[GLD]

You know what they say about a guy with small pots... :laugh:
A small Kola. :laugh:

[tigger]

is the weather hot enuff for you to grow that weed outside were you are?.

just wondered lol

[Batou1986]

yea the weathers hot like 40-55 c and its in the ground now since it was 2 plants growing in one pot

[i_am_mustang_man]

i support it's legalization, but I don't advocate it's use. I don't like it because it is still smoke in my lungs, but my biggest beef with it is it's legality. if they find you with any on your person, you are not only in possession, but almost always slammed with intention to sell/distribute as well, which is ludicrous. the gov could tax it and that would be great because most deaths associated (not due to!) is because of 'dirty' weed, ie laced or some shit. don't smoke it if you don't want to, but even us nonsmokers shouldn't take away their rights. i believe dui is still inorder, btw, it should be treated similarly to tobacco or alcohol, imo as far as age and stuff

[Cj_Staal]

Use vaporizers, no smoke :) no carbon dioxide, no pullutants :)

[DanTheBanjoman]

Jesus, I'm gone for a few days and you guys start a 15 page drugthread. Evil you's.

As for my opinion, I couldn't give a damn, it's already freely available here :)

[Alec§taar]

Jesus, I'm gone for a few days and you guys start a 15 page drugthread. Evil you's.

As for my opinion, I couldn't give a damn, it's already freely available here :)

It is a weed, it grows almost anywhere from what I understand... not a "pot farmer" here though, so I am probably talking out my you-know-what, but it's what I have heard!

APK

[Alec§taar]

Use vaporizers, no smoke :) no carbon dioxide, no pullutants :)

Well, will wonders never cease: New 21st century technology for intake of THC...

:)

* Amazing... what will they think of next?

APK

P.S.=> See, this is exactly what I mean - there's even "mainstream" technologies being applied to it!

So how are you going to stop it really?

There's a sub-culture out there even designing tools & methods like that one above so they don't have to burn their lungs smoking weed!

Creating a "take away" of the worst bad effect of anykind of smoking it sounds like & something I wasn't aware of as being possible, apparently it is... what the heck IS that & how does it work - now, you've got even ME curious! apk

[i_am_mustang_man]

Well, will wonders never cease: New 21st century technology for intake of THC...

:)

* Amazing... what will they think of next?

APK

P.S.=> See, this is exactly what I mean - there's even "mainstream" technologies being applied to it!

So how are you going to stop it really?

There's a sub-culture out there even designing tools & methods like that one above so they don't have to burn their lungs smoking weed!

Creating a "take away" of the worst bad effect of anykind of smoking it sounds like & something I wasn't aware of as being possible, apparently it is... what the heck IS that & how does it work - now, you've got even ME curious! apk

good point cj! I have seen those before, and they supposedly rip the shit for getting you ripped to shit, so to speak... I totally forgot about em tho, cuz it was most of my friends in high school who did that, not so much in college, so i've fallen behind/stagnant

[technicks]

Hi there.

This is a friend of mine holding up some nice homegrown dutch weed.
You got to love it.

[Cj_Staal]

http://shop.grasscity.com/shop/grasscity/vapormed.html
What happens is it uses electrical current to heat up a hotplate and it brings it to a percise temperature where only the THC vaporizes and nothing else... and the THC doesnt even combust! (They have cheaper systems also)

[Cj_Staal]

idk yet, all I know is I am getting that bubbler from there

[Cj_Staal]

Man I haven't smoked for like a week almost :(

[Cj_Staal]

I'm getting a half-ounce of White Widow, anyone want some?

[OOTay]

I'm getting a half-ounce of White Widow, anyone want some?

cuase im sure you would send it first class ups ;)

[Cj_Staal]

lol maybe I will ;)

[i_am_mustang_man]

i love the photos of the people in the bottom of the vapomed ad

lol all over the fucking floor

hahahhah

[Gibbs]

am picking up a half-o of orange bud at lunch time today.

Am gonna be wiped at work and i love it

[Cj_Staal]

I'ma smoke a blunt before summerschool woot :)

[tigger]

i just got some really NNNIIIIICCCCEEEEEE.sticky black goldseal.

so i'm gonna have a fat one(no sick comments please)

[Cj_Staal]

I'ma smoke another blunt before summer school tuesday. I already passed it we just got mon-tues left

[Cj_Staal]

7 blunts this night man, and were gunna smoke 1 more!

[Cj_Staal]

Just say no one has ever died from marijuana and you have to smoke your entire body weight to overdose.

[stealthfighter]

Smoke still kills lungs o.o
when you're sixty and can't walk up that flight of stairs w/o loseing your breath you'll know what I mean
and it's expensive

[Cj_Staal]

not really....

[Cj_Staal]

*bumpalump* hows everybody!

[G.T]

Sadly not high. =/

[Slater]

Bumping this again.

[Skitzoid]

I say lagalize it:) :) :) :):rockout: :toast: :respect:

[Skitzoid]

ever here of anyone OD ing from weed?
No and it is not addictive in anyway.