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pt
08-03-2006, 01:56 AM
Just got super pi and decided to run it at the CPU/MEM stock speeds

Edit: can't upload image

the time for the 16K was of 00.279s
and for the 32K was of 00.718s

Is this a good result for a AMD 3000+ at 1800mhz?

Alec§taar
08-03-2006, 02:09 AM
One thing to note about "Std." version of SuperPI:

It's a SINGLE-THREADED program, & will NOT fully extoll the abilities/virtues present/inherent in DualCore/SMP/HyperThreaded CPU bearing systems!

(Keep this in mind)

IIRC, there IS a way to "rig" the std. model to fully exploit the virtues of SuperPi std. build, but I cannot recall the specifics needed though... sorry on that account/note!

Could I think of a "rig job"? Sure - when you start 1 instance of it?? Using taskmgr.exe to set its affinity to a particular CPU core prior to starting the test will do it... you would run 2 instances of the single thread model of it this way, 1 to each core...

:)

* There IS a version that IS "multi-threaded" designed, & thus, inherently SMP/DualCore ready & capable coded, but, on a single CPU machine?

ALSO, do keep THIS point in mind as well:

Technically, single threaded code RUNS FASTER, & has less overheads in the process scheduler than multithreaded code would, on a SINGLE cpu system (single core that is). The single threaded model will be the "Best/Better" performer on a single core system!

(InfraRed I am fairly certain, has D/L links for that model... name of file is: SuperPi 2004 (download filename = sp2004exe_20060405.cab) iirc! Double-Check w/ InfraRed)

APK

pt
08-03-2006, 02:37 AM
i used the one on the TPU download section, i have a single core cpu, so i think it works fine, what i want is to compare times on AMD cpu's, but thanks for the advice

cdawall
08-03-2006, 04:25 AM
50s stock 41s w/ oc -1m
.343s stock .282s w/ oc -16k
.718s stock .594s w/ oc -32k

for a64 3000+ (s754)
2ghz stock ram timings 2.5-2-2-6 1T ddr2100 266mhz
2.44ghz oc ram timings 2.5-2-2-6 1T ddr2100 326.6mhz

dccool879
08-03-2006, 10:18 AM
my amd 3000+ @ 2.6 ghz is 35 sec for 1M, not sure what it is stock

tigger
08-03-2006, 10:21 AM
heres my pi score-

http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/a13562piu228.jpg

infrared
08-03-2006, 10:51 AM
P4 640 @ 4.88ghz = 27.000 superpi :D

memory 1:1, 650mhz 4-4-4-9

I can do better still when i get some better memory. My target is 26s

http://img.techpowerup.org/060803/27ssuperpi.jpg

pt
08-03-2006, 02:30 PM
for 1m at stock speeds it took 52.9
Pretty good times Infrared, how much did it do at 5.0?

infrared
08-03-2006, 02:31 PM
5ghz isn't stable :(

pt
08-03-2006, 02:46 PM
with an overclock it does 35,4 s in 1M, a 17 seconds increase

mikelopez
08-03-2006, 03:16 PM
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=109515

http://img.techpowerup.org/060803/superpi.jpg

pt
08-03-2006, 03:32 PM
Nice overclock and nice CPU, i want one too :(
It's yours?

magibeg
08-03-2006, 03:36 PM
lol, i just find it funny a low end conroe just beat the crap out of everyones scores :P (yes i realize it is overclocked but still!)

mikelopez
08-03-2006, 03:59 PM
Nice overclock and nice CPU, i want one too :(
It's yours?

Thanks, and yes it is mine. Look here:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=14404

lol, i just find it funny a low end conroe just beat the crap out of everyones scores :P (yes i realize it is overclocked but still!)

This isnt even close to what these guys are doing:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=106685&page=2

Alec§taar
08-03-2006, 04:26 PM
I took this test, single-threaded code or not (see my first post in regards to my thoughts on that), & used the "stock/oem" model 1.4, & ones also geared to speed up its calculations via the SSE2 &/or SSE3 instruction sets for floating point calculations.

Here are my results:

Super-Pi 1.4 stock/oem model:

http://img.techpowerup.org/060803/SuperPi14ResultAPK.jpg

Super-Pi 1.4 SSE2 enhanced model:

http://img.techpowerup.org/060803/SuperPi14SSE2ModdedResultAPK.jpg

Super-Pi 1.4 SSE3 enhanced model:

http://img.techpowerup.org/060803/SuperPi14SSE3ModdedResultAPK.jpg

:)

* Oddly, though the SSE2 &/or SSE3 enhanced models in theory OUGHT TO HELP imo, more than they did?

Well - I don't see radical increases, yes some (small) but nothing "mind-blowing" either, about 1.1 seconds diff.!

APK

P.S.=> I kept it @ the 1M calculations mark/19 iterations... & MAN!

You guys have some FAST machines boy... whew! apk

cdawall
08-03-2006, 05:00 PM
well you all still beat my crummy best of 41s though i am going to try super pi at 2.5ghz :)

cjoyce1980
08-03-2006, 06:15 PM
see below

Lekamies
08-03-2006, 06:24 PM
http://koti.mbnet.fi/lekaj/dfi/superpi1M.jpg

pt
08-03-2006, 07:27 PM
http://koti.mbnet.fi/lekaj/dfi/superpi1M.jpg

What cooling are you using on your 3000?

dccool879
08-04-2006, 03:05 AM
is it safe to go to 1.7 volts on the 3000+??? :wtf:

pt
08-04-2006, 04:23 AM
is it safe to go to 1.7 volts on the 3000+??? :wtf:

if you have proper cooling you can go higher than 1.7

dccool879
08-04-2006, 05:01 AM
i thought it was rule of thumb that over 1.6 starts to reduce ur cpu's life

Lekamies
08-04-2006, 12:33 PM
What cooling are you using on your 3000?

Watercooling like this(only pump is different) (http://www.vapochill.com/main/page.asp?sideid=706), Idle temp 26-28c and 100% cpu usage 36-40c (after over 9 hour divx packing temp was 42c)

over 10 months it has been 1,7v 24/7 without problems ;)

cdawall
08-04-2006, 04:19 PM
well i still have a stock amd hsf run at a little over 1.7v and the highest temp i have seen was 55C so you should be plenty safe at 1.7v just dont try what i got witha stock hsf you will toast your s939

Boneface
08-04-2006, 06:59 PM
heres mine at 38s at 1m

infrared
08-04-2006, 07:13 PM
Nice one ;)

Solaris17
08-04-2006, 07:18 PM
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=109515

http://img.techpowerup.org/060803/superpi.jpg


we just got fkin oWned

pt
08-04-2006, 07:50 PM
Damn conroe :shadedshu

tigger
08-04-2006, 07:56 PM
loverly conroe.:roll: :roll: :roll:

infrared
08-04-2006, 08:26 PM
dammit... got pwned again :laugh:

i_am_mustang_man
08-04-2006, 08:33 PM
i'm at40s, boooo

btw i really like your xp theme/skin or whatever it is boneface

what is it?

i'll try getting mine sub 40, no need to post right now

Boneface
08-04-2006, 09:36 PM
i'm at40s, boooo

btw i really like your xp theme/skin or whatever it is boneface

what is it?

i'll try getting mine sub 40, no need to post right now


its from a thing called Tune-up utilities everyone in my clan uses it... http://www.coreclan.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=6

cdawall
08-04-2006, 10:01 PM
i'm at40s, boooo

btw i really like your xp theme/skin or whatever it is boneface

what is it?

i'll try getting mine sub 40, no need to post right now


lol me too i cannot get lower than 41s but that is the rams fault when i get a gig of ddr400 (2x512) vs. the 512 of ddr266 ill prob get about 37s with the right ram :)

_33
08-04-2006, 11:32 PM
This now is the best scores I can publish for now with my Kingston valueram (1M and 2M):

_33
08-05-2006, 02:01 AM
SuperPI 1M score of 9 seconds (http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=fr%7Cen&u=http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D84270&prev=/language_tools)

Coolaler................ grrrr :mad:

:o

:D

i_am_mustang_man
08-05-2006, 06:46 AM
I just got 36s

2500mhz oc (+500), and dual channel, but only at 266, i am in the middle of figuring out top oc and then working ram back up.

http://img.techpowerup.org/060805/36s superpi.jpg

cdawall
08-05-2006, 08:00 PM
nice _33 30s wonder if i can get that w/ mine w/o modding chip

pt
08-05-2006, 08:56 PM
Just run the program on a friend of mine pc, and it took 10min to calculate 1M
System specs:
P4 3.2 skt 775
P5S800
512mb CL3
FX5200
ETC.

Is this a normal result for this computer?

magibeg
08-05-2006, 09:11 PM
not at all, my p4 at 3.4 does it in 38.... 37 if i shut everything down :P

pt
08-05-2006, 11:15 PM
he was browsing the Internet at the time i will try it shutting everything down

Alec§taar
08-05-2006, 11:39 PM
SuperPI 1M score of 9 seconds (http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=fr&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=fr%7Cen&u=http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D84270&prev=/language_tools)

Coolaler................ grrrr :mad:

:o

:D

Well, we now know what an Intel Conroe E6800 can do...

:)

* As for the guy who did that? It's great, but... nothing life altering either!

HEY, when you come down to it, in this field and any other? PERFORMANCE/SPEED = MONEY... & the supply must equal the demand for the masses!

(It is REALLY just monetary & timing advantages, + availability of product being equal to all, nothing you or anyone else couldn't do given superior hardware!)

E.G.-> Like usual, for a good stretch there? Only SOME folks had access to CONROES like reviewers etc..

(PLUS, he is from the orient (taiwan), & guess where CPU's & other microprocessor circuitry largely hails from? That's right - right over there! They have earlier shots @ the stuff than most do I would wager!)

APK

P.S.=> Yes, it takes some "saavy" to learn some tricks with hardware (@ some nutty levels too, "EE" stuff ALMOST (note InfraRed's VDroop mod, that to me, is fairly impressive for instance))

Also with software, & BIOS techniques, for more performance...

Still, it is nothing mind-blowing either, it can be learned & made current faster than other disciplines in this field imo @ least... apk

Boneface
08-05-2006, 11:47 PM
wooowhooo i dropped er down to 37s in 1m...lol

pt
08-06-2006, 12:05 AM
wooowhooo i dropped er down to 37s in 1m...lol
COOL, there is almost no diference between a 3000+ skt 754 overclocked to 2500mhz, and a 3000+ skt AM2 overcloked to 2500mhz too, nice, wich are your temps at 2500mhz?

breakfromyou
08-06-2006, 01:50 AM
my best = 29.531s 1M with my 4400+ at 2.8 GHz.

Boneface
08-06-2006, 02:12 AM
COOL, there is almost no diference between a 3000+ skt 754 overclocked to 2500mhz, and a 3000+ skt AM2 overcloked to 2500mhz too, nice, wich are your temps at 2500mhz?


temps are at 25c idle dont know about full yet

i_am_mustang_man
08-06-2006, 06:35 AM
ok, check this out:

http://www.motormice.com/_images/p5wdh805@4ghz.JPG

that's only 2s faster than what i get, so i'm amped

my celeron 346 does it in 43-44s un oc'ed, so i'm wondering what's the big deal with getting the d805 to 4ghz if it didn't help that much, other than dual core

damnit, i pretty much just answered my question. anways.... that's a 4ghz cpu and we're all right there!

Azn Tr14dZ
08-06-2006, 06:46 AM
AMD architecture compared to the Intel architecture...it matters more than speed.

cdawall
08-06-2006, 07:51 PM
lol w/ a real cooler i could get that

Alec§taar
08-06-2006, 09:14 PM
AMD architecture compared to the Intel architecture...it matters more than speed.

Well, I come mostly out of the "Intel background" over my history w/ PC's, & this is ONLY my 2nd AMD architecture system!

(My last AMD one (K6-III @450mhz circa 1998) was not even REMOTELY like their stuff is today combined w/ NVidia NForce 4 stuff on the mobo)...

I like what I have been learning on this note, on AMD's architecture, on these forums... stuff I was COMPLETELY unaware of before, as I was using INTEL stuff, ONLY, for years (decade++ actually)!

Especially how HTT/LDT works, via a SINGLE controller for access to memory & other peripherals...

* IMO @ least, it's pretty "genius" stuff & probably more efficient than "northbridge/southbridge" & possibly less costly to manufacture (1 controller vs. 2 etc.).

(That is, unless an Intel person can tell me different - I would like to hear an Intel person's side of things, especially w/ their latest-greatest stuff Pentium D - CONROE).

APK

pt
08-06-2006, 10:51 PM
AMD mobo are usually cheaper

gR3iF
08-07-2006, 12:02 PM
http://img.techpowerup.org/060807/Capture004.jpg

cdawall
08-07-2006, 05:50 PM
my best ever!

Solaris17
08-07-2006, 06:02 PM
http://img.techpowerup.org/060807/Capture004.jpg





OMFG Dude crank that thing up and show us whats up. i mean 21 sec at 1.6 GHZ *Solaris has a spasm and hits the floor.*

pt
08-07-2006, 06:24 PM
Here is my best result until now:
http://img.techpowerup.org/060807/superpi.jpg

pt
08-07-2006, 06:44 PM
Results until now:
TOP 3 owned by Intel :(

Mikelopez - 19s - Intel Core 2 Duo E6300@3000mhz
gR3iF - 21s - Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Infrared - 27s - Intel Pentium 4 640@4880mhz
Lekamies - 29s - AMD ATHLON 3000+@2785mhz
breakfromyou - 29.531s - AMD ATHLON x2 4400+@2800mhz
tigger69 - 30.109s - Intel Pentium D930@4200mhz
_33 - 30.469 - AMD ATHLON 3000+@2856mhz
Alec§taar - 32s - AMD ATHLON 64x2 4800+@2761mhz
dccool879 - 35s - AMD ATHLON 3000+@2600mhz
PT - 35.453S - AMD ATHLON 3000+@2500mhz
i_am_mustang_man - 36s AMD ATHLON 3200+@2500mhz
BoneFace - 37s - AMD ATHLON 3200+@2500mhz
magibeg - 38s - P4 550@3400mhz
cdawall - 1M - 40.812S - AMD ATHLON 3000+@2440mhz

Alec§taar
08-07-2006, 07:52 PM
pt,

New/Better score for me (new o/c today is why)!

Super-Pi 1.4 std. mod (32 seconds):

http://img.techpowerup.org/060807/APKSuperPi14NormalMod32578Score.jpg

Super-Pi SSE2 instruction set mod (31 seconds):

http://img.techpowerup.org/060807/APKSuperPi14SSE2Mod31Score.jpg

Super-Pi SSE3 instruction set mod (31 seconds):

http://img.techpowerup.org/060807/APKSuperPi14SSE3Mod31Score.jpg

:)

* BOTH the SSE2 &/or SSE3 instruction set show me @ 31 seconds, vs. 32 before...

APK

P.S.=> AND, the std. Super-Pi 1.4 mod version shows me @ 32 seconds now, vs. 33 before! apk

pt
08-07-2006, 08:16 PM
My bad, i was going to but 31 but i probabily made a mistake :o

UPDATED
Mikelopez - 19s - Intel Core 2 Duo E6300@3000mhz
gR3iF - 21s - Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
Infrared - 27s - Intel Pentium 4 640@4880mhz
Lekamies - 29s - AMD ATHLON 3000+@2785mhz
breakfromyou - 29.531s - AMD ATHLON x2 4400+@2800mhz
tigger69 - 30.109s - Intel Pentium D930@4200mhz
_33 - 30.469 - AMD ATHLON 3000+@2856mhz
Alec§taar - 31s - AMD ATHLON 64x2 4800+@2761mhz
dccool879 - 35s - AMD ATHLON 3000+@2600mhz
PT - 35.453S - AMD ATHLON 3000+@2500mhz
i_am_mustang_man - 36s AMD ATHLON 3200+@2500mhz
BoneFace - 37s - AMD ATHLON 3200+@2500mhz
magibeg - 38s - P4 550@3400mhz
cdawall - 1M - 40.812S - AMD ATHLON 3000+@2440mhz

Alec§taar
08-07-2006, 09:52 PM
My bad, i was going to but 31 but i probabily made a mistake :o

No, I think you had it RIGHT for last round of tests I did... new o/c here, faster still, & I quite literally SHAVED 1 second off my times from before!

APK

cdawall
08-07-2006, 10:31 PM
cut off somemore forgot to snap a shot on the actual screen here is overall though
edit
that was almost a .5s shave w/ ram tweaks

mikelopez
08-07-2006, 10:43 PM
@ gR3iF

UNLEASH that hound!!!

mikelopez
08-07-2006, 11:47 PM
Check it out:

http://img.techpowerup.org/060807/sp-430fsb.jpg

pt
08-08-2006, 01:18 AM
Check it out:

http://img.techpowerup.org/060807/sp-430fsb.jpg

19s... :twitch:
very good time on that E6300, but i still love my AMD :p

Ketxxx
08-08-2006, 01:25 AM
Sorry, gonna take more than a SPI score to impress me, its all you intel boys seem to whip out. Less SPI, and more relative performance tests eh?

pt
08-08-2006, 01:33 AM
Sorry, gonna take more than a SPI score to impress me, its all you intel boys seem to whip out. Less SPI, and more relative performance tests eh?

see the ScienceMark thread on my signature

Ketxxx
08-08-2006, 02:14 AM
still not impressed. im not seeing anything that equates to any substantial real-world gain.

Lt_JWS
08-08-2006, 03:07 AM
Got my conroe today :D

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/4610/capture87200690335pmey7.th.jpg (http://img512.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capture87200690335pmey7.jpg)

@ mikelopez, updated your superpi version may give you better time :)

Edit: 3.3Ghz Stock Air :D

http://img348.imageshack.us/img348/145/capture872006111736pmky5.th.jpg (http://img348.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capture872006111736pmky5.jpg)

gR3iF
08-08-2006, 12:10 PM
my conroe is running under intel speedstep so super pi was made with 2,4gig
afterwards the cpu goes to idle modus 1,6gig


atm i dont like to oc my cpu^^
i have no ln2 cooling so the 8seks from coolaler are out of reach and i dont want to loose warranty atm :D^^
wait a week^^

JBolho
04-10-2008, 03:04 AM
Well, don't know if this is good or bad, judging from what i have seen so far i guess it's inside the average :)
Vista sucks with overclocking and doesn't let my X2 (5200+ 2.6Ghz stock) go past 2.86Ghz (XP lets it go to at least 3Ghz) but i lack the pacience to go back to XP and so far this rig runs everything without problems.

farlex85
04-10-2008, 03:16 AM
Wow, you dug up a 2 year old thread. Its funny looking at the old scores from you tpu vetrans. btw jb there is a newer 1m superpi thread. Much newer.