View Full Version : looking for a cheap Motherboard just for the mean time
I just want one thats cheap just untill i save some $ and get the better stuff when they come out. So i want to be able to OC my stuff but dont really know whats the best bang for my buck. if you need any more info. let me know
Processor
Intel Pentium 4 HT 520 2.80GHz (Prescott) LGA 775
Memory
1GBX2 PNY DDR2-533 PC4300
jph1589
08-03-2006, 02:57 AM
I have the ECS C19-A SLI. You can get it for about $75. It is a very stable board with new drivers recently released and 2 bios updates in the last month.
The only big problem is that the pci express slots only run at x8 no matter if you have one or two graphics cards installed. According to some, that isn't a problem since the GPU can't push it above x8 anyway. I have no idea if that is correct.
I have a P4 520J installed with 1gb 2x512 of Corsair VS DDR2 533. The FSB runs easily at 1000 and that puts my cpu at 3.5ghz. It runs perfect and fast. I am about to put a 550J into it just to get me by until the core 2 problems all shake out.
I'd be glad to answer any questions you might have about it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135225&ATT=13-135-225&CMP=OTC-yah00TT
so where did you buy it? can you over clock the ram? so is that bad that the pci-e only gets x8 ? so whould you know if there is other ones that would also a good choice?
Azn Tr14dZ
08-03-2006, 03:10 AM
You can get it from newegg. X8 isn't bad because the 7950GX2 only takes up X6 BandWidth...
i_am_mustang_man
08-03-2006, 03:12 AM
i have that sameboard in a rig i built to sell. it's probably the best price/performance ratio of sli 775 out there. my fsb and ram is a little weird because i have a celeron with a 23x multiplier, but it's not mine to figure out, i just looked. in the bios there are two separate places to oc: your cpu and then your ram. i can take my ram up from 533 to 667 or 800. it didn't change after i changed the clock on the cpu either, so i don't know what's exactly up, but there are a bunch of tweakable options
jph1589
08-03-2006, 03:16 AM
so where did you buy it? can you over clock the ram? so is that bad that the pci-e only gets x8 ? so whould you know if there is other ones that would also a good choice?
You can adjust the PCIE, FSB, Ram speeds and the vcore and ram voltage. You can link the fsb to the ram or set them separately.
I have mine on expert and my PCIE is set to 110mhz. fsb is set to 1000. ram is at 533 (because it is VS and doesn't overclock well), cpu voltage is at auto and the ram is at 1.8v.
well i got to go to work, so if thats the cheapest thats the best or is there any other that good let me know. well i'll be on when i get home in the moring :twitch: :toast:
jph1589
08-03-2006, 03:18 AM
so where did you buy it? can you over clock the ram? so is that bad that the pci-e only gets x8 ? so whould you know if there is other ones that would also a good choice?
Is the MSI P4n SLI-FI
It is a very good and stable board also. It has the ability to control the fsb and nbridge voltage also. The ECS board won't do that.....if you even care.
so these are two boards i ve been suggested
Open Box: MSI P4N SLI-FITotal: $58.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130362R
ECS C19-A SLI Total: $84.12
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135225
so does any one got any other suggestions? are the open box ones like bad ones that ppl sent back ?
jph1589
08-03-2006, 02:49 PM
so these are two boards i ve been suggested
Open Box: MSI P4N SLI-FITotal: $58.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130362R
ECS C19-A SLI Total: $84.12
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813135225
so does any one got any other suggestions? are the open box ones like bad ones that ppl sent back ?
The open box boards for the P4n SLI are probably from their early release when they had trouble with some compatibility on some pentium d models. That is just an assumption. You have to weigh the risk yourself. You won't get all the accessories or the I/O shield with it. So that is up to you.
There are some new ones available for a little more money.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=241182&prodlist=pricerunner
this is an open box or used right?
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=11026709
is newegg the only place to get anygood motherboards for cheap?
Azn Tr14dZ
08-04-2006, 12:59 AM
Newegg is the best place to buy, great customer service.
Asus has a great motherboard too, the P5ND2 SLI:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131578
But the recent customer reviews aren't that great...
If you're gonna get a new motherboard, you'll have to get a new case since they won't fit in Dell.
Newegg is the best place to buy, great customer service.
Asus has a great motherboard too, the P5ND2 SLI:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131578
But the recent customer reviews aren't that great...
If you're gonna get a new motherboard, you'll have to get a new case since they won't fit in Dell.
yea i know i need a new case so is this one better then the MSI P4N SLI-FI nForce4 SLI like in the features i can oc with
Azn Tr14dZ
08-04-2006, 01:14 AM
I would go with the C19 SLI, mid-range, best bang for the buck, and really good reviews. Don't go with the MSI.
Have you found a case you like yet?
I would go with the C19 SLI, mid-range, best bang for the buck, and really good reviews. Don't go with the MSI.
Have you found a case you like yet?
well not really i hav'nt looked yet, just going to get a cheap a$$ one, cuz well today my gf got a job and going to start 21st, so dont wanna spend to much cuz after i finish paying my tv in nov. going to see if i could build me a good one with better stuff cuz going to find out friday moring how much of a raise there going to give us at work
and am i going to need a new HD?
Azn Tr14dZ
08-04-2006, 01:31 AM
No, but you have to reinstall XP.
No, but you have to reinstall XP.
lol i think i still got that cd some where i think i hope i brought it with me when i move here need to look in the boxes if i dont need to call moms she better not have trashed it:twitch:
so what happens if i dont reinstall xp cant find it
Azn Tr14dZ
08-04-2006, 02:10 AM
It's not gonna be very stable...but for some it works ok. Depends on your luck;) But it's best to re-install it.
It's not gonna be very stable...but for some it works ok. Depends on your luck;) But it's best to re-install it.
well my moms looking if its back home. so could i like use a burned one or you cant make copy of it
Azn Tr14dZ
08-04-2006, 02:17 AM
It's illegal to make a copy or give CD keys...;)
jph1589
08-04-2006, 03:08 AM
so what happens if i dont reinstall xp cant find it
You have to re-install XP. There are no other options. DO NOT try to do it without reinstalling XP!!!
In order to do that, you need YOUR CD and YOUR PRODUCT KEY. Also, after you do that you will have to activate it again. There is a 99.999% chance they will make you do it over the phone. Just tell them your motherboard fried and you had to replace it and reinstall and then tell then it isn't installed anywhere else. They will give you the code to type in and you will be set!!
You have to re-install XP. There are no other options. DO NOT try to do it without reinstalling XP!!!
In order to do that, you need YOUR CD and YOUR PRODUCT KEY. Also, after you do that you will have to activate it again. There is a 99.999% chance they will make you do it over the phone. Just tell them your motherboard fried and you had to replace it and reinstall and then tell then it isn't installed anywhere else. They will give you the code to type in and you will be set!!
WELL IT WAS NEVER FOUND :cry: SO AM I GOING TO HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER ONE OR WILL SOMEONE SELL ME ONE ?;)
jph1589
08-05-2006, 03:37 AM
WELL IT WAS NEVER FOUND :cry: SO AM I GOING TO HAVE TO BUY ANOTHER ONE OR WILL SOMEONE SELL ME ONE ?;)
You don't want to buy a used copy. It causes too much hassle activating.
You also want to be careful buying oem copies. The dell copies don't include software that they don't need for dell systems (LIKE RAID DRIVERS). Who knows what else they exculde.
Get a retail full install copy and keep track of the cd and product key.
You don't want to buy a used copy. It causes too much hassle activating.
You also want to be careful buying oem copies. The dell copies don't include software that they don't need for dell systems (LIKE RAID DRIVERS). Who knows what else they exculde.
Get a retail full install copy and keep track of the cd and product key.
SO WHICH ONE SHOULD I GET HOME, PRO XP
jph1589
08-05-2006, 04:01 AM
Read the features and differences on microsofts website. You managed to get here, I'm sure you can get there. LOL!
Read the features and differences on microsofts website. You managed to get here, I'm sure you can get there. LOL!
WELL THIS IS THE WHAT IM LOOKING TO BUY
Microsoft Windows XP Home Upgrade with SP2 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837116194
IS IT THE SAME AS
Microsoft Windows XP Home with SP2 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837116193
Azn Tr14dZ
08-05-2006, 04:13 AM
The upgrade is if you're upgrading from previous Windows...so I think you have to buy the full version.
well this one work
its oem but lot of good reviews
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102059
jph1589
08-05-2006, 02:02 PM
probably
probably?... i need to know by the end of the month so i can order it
so which one is the best from these for OC or is there any other around that price range i missed
ASUS P5ND2-SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131578
BIOSTAR TForce4U
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813138276
JetWay J775GT4-G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813153041
jph1589
08-05-2006, 07:47 PM
probably?... i need to know by the end of the month so i can order it
so which one is the best from these for OC or is there any other around that price range i missed
ASUS P5ND2-SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131578
BIOSTAR TForce4U
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813138276
JetWay J775GT4-G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813153041
I'm not going to buy it and test it for you. Come on!!
As for the three boards, those are not the boards we have been discussing.
On another note, to some extent you have to take responsibility for some of this research yourself. You can't just post after post demand people to answer your questions. I try to answer things as best I can, but I don't have all the answers. Hopefully some of the data I type will give you ideas of what to search on to get the answer yourself. I am sorry if this seems harsh, but that is how forums are supposed to work. You aren't suppose to just sit and wait for the information to be handed to you.
DO SOME OF YOUR OWN RESEARCH!
lol i just never did any of this stuff before so im kind of lost well i was looking at the mb's the ASUS was one by Azn Tr14dZ and the other two dont even suport HT :ohwell: so where can i RESEARCH your mb and the ASUS P5ND2-SLI cuz i really dont know where to look
so here it goes
case Linkworld
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16811164040
HD SAMSUNG SpinPoint P
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16822152020
CPU HS/FAN Thermaltake Big Typhoon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16835106061
Thermal Compound Arctic Silver 5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16835100007
MB ASUS P5ND2-SLI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16813131578
OS Microsoft Windows XP
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E16837102059
Total: $339.24
the only thing i really am not sure is on the HD Interface dont know the difference between the other kinds, so i would like some help before ordering :confused:
noneed4me2
08-12-2006, 11:01 AM
Your build is fine, I take it your ok on power supply and cooling. Your hardrive matches up with your motherboards SATA 3.0 ports. They use smaller cables and you may need a molex to SATA power connector if your psu lacks those type of connections. You can pick these up at the Newegg or Compusa might have them. Everything else looks good. Can't tell what bios options you will have as far as overclocking, but look up what others have done with a google search on your boards; add review to your search and you should fin plenty of info on what others think and done, this will help inform you of any hardware problems or incombatibility. One other thing, your using an ATI vidcard on an nvidia chipset. You know that you can't do crossfire on that but if your switching to Nvidia based cards in the future your fine. XP oem from egg are ok, I haven't had any issue with say getting a Dell copy of XP only Microsoft copies with general drivers and software. With a legit copy, MS should be able to help you if you have install issues. Good luck and keep posting your progress and the good people here will help if you have any problems. Remember we were all noobs at one time.
Edit: I see in your build specs the same psu as me your cool on all connections.
Your build is fine, I take it your ok on power supply and cooling. Your hardrive matches up with your motherboards SATA 3.0 ports. They use smaller cables and you may need a molex to SATA power connector if your psu lacks those type of connections. You can pick these up at the Newegg or Compusa might have them. Everything else looks good. Can't tell what bios options you will have as far as overclocking, but look up what others have done with a google search on your boards; add review to your search and you should fin plenty of info on what others think and done, this will help inform you of any hardware problems or incombatibility. One other thing, your using an ATI vidcard on an nvidia chipset. You know that you can't do crossfire on that but if your switching to Nvidia based cards in the future your fine. XP oem from egg are ok, I haven't had any issue with say getting a Dell copy of XP only Microsoft copies with general drivers and software. With a legit copy, MS should be able to help you if you have install issues. Good luck and keep posting your progress and the good people here will help if you have any problems. Remember we were all noobs at one time.
Edit: I see in your build specs the same psu as me your cool on all connections.
thanks :toast: but i got another case $10 from raidoshack with MIR but i didnt know i coiuldnt do crossfire. have you used Bill Me Later from newegg dont pay for 90 days ?
noneed4me2
08-12-2006, 11:30 AM
Credit is a dangerous game,I know i have backup credit bills since my accident owe alot and have no way of paying for now. Use it only if you already have the money and want to establish credit, otherwise i say pay for it now and own it free and clear.
noneed4me2
08-12-2006, 11:34 AM
Heres a list of boards some of which can do crossfire, I recommend the Asus at the top. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010200022+1070907495+107191003&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=22
Heres a list of boards some of which can do crossfire, I recommend the Asus at the top. http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?N=2010200022+1070907495+107191003&Submit=ENE&SubCategory=22
:slap:lol but i got a p4 all those are amd but this one i wanna get is better the the ones with ati chips right
noneed4me2
08-12-2006, 11:43 AM
My bad, not up to speed on Intels recent outings, If I recall some intel boards support dual x16 pci/e which allows dongle free crossfire support in x1600 vidcards and below. But i am not sure which ones thats is. here is another place I frequent with sections dedicated to Intel and AMD and alot of stuff inbetween http://www.overclock.net/ THey love answering questions.
well thats not a bad mobo is it ? cuz ati ones kind of suck the fsb are like 800 high one is 1000 but its 184 pin i got ddr2 240 pin and the ASUS intel cost to much so i think that one it good for the mean time cuz i had got a 6800gs but it didnt want to work on my comp but i then found like last week when i updated my md bios the was one that was for the 6800gs i was like :banghead: cuz it has sm3
noneed4me2
08-12-2006, 12:06 PM
That board will be fine your X800xl should work fine in it. If you want dual nvidia graphics later thats the way to go. Intel spec is all over the place and I honestly don't know what to recommend. Do searches over at Overclock.net in the Intel motherboard section, they should provide you with better understanding of what you need. Just from a compatibilty standpoint all is well I think.
That board will be fine your X800xl should work fine in it. If you want dual nvidia graphics later thats the way to go. Intel spec is all over the place and I honestly don't know what to recommend. Do searches over at Overclock.net in the Intel motherboard section, they should provide you with better understanding of what you need. Just from a compatibilty standpoint all is well I think.
well i looked on newegg the intel ones are much higher Intel P965 Express one in stock the lowest one $250:eek: i think i going with that one ive already picked
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