View Full Version : Big problem please help cooling!!
petepete
08-06-2006, 07:31 PM
Hi, i purchased an aftermarket cooler the Zalman
CNPS9500 LED or something like that, to cool my intel pentium 4 3.6 Ghz, and its constant at 49 ' C !!!!!! I only overclocked it to 3.8 Ghz and it is 49 ' C.. Someone please help me!!.
P.S- Do you think the fan is on the other way around??
The blue light is facing my intake and the other side is exhaust.. please help me
cdawall
08-06-2006, 07:38 PM
it is fine i have seen ppl run those things at 65c oc'd
you didnt forget to apply thermal compound did you??
btw why did you get a zalman there a cheaper/better coolers out there??
petepete
08-06-2006, 07:40 PM
My friend told me that would be good, and i can afford it. I dont care if its as good as a 20 dollar one, i just dont want it to break down.
I put Arctic Silver 5 on it for thermal compound
cdawall
08-06-2006, 07:49 PM
ok well you should be ok at 49c and if you want to know if it is facing the right way just put your hand near while it is on if it blows out the exhaust and in thru the intake you have it right
jph1589
08-06-2006, 07:57 PM
it is fine i have seen ppl run those things at 65c oc'd
you didnt forget to apply thermal compound did you??
btw why did you get a zalman there a cheaper/better coolers out there??
It probably ISN't fine. That cooler installed properly on that cpu with such a small overclock should be idling in the low 40c range.
Make sure the cooler is installed in the correct direction with the fan blowing across the fins and out the back of the case. Also make sure you applied the Arctic Silver 5 exactly the way they recommend on their website. Only a drop the size of a grain of sand or a b-b. Don't spread it out and just install the heatsink and let that distribute the compound from it's weight.
I would shut everything down and remove the cooler and look at how the AS5 is distributed and see if you did it right.
I have my 2.8 prescott overclocked up to 3.5hgz and it idles at 39-41c with a much cheaper cooler. So you should be seeing much better temps from yours. Don't listen to people who say it is ok. If you wanted it to idle at 49c you would have left the stock cooler on.
Edited........you people are nutz........the guy didn't spend all that money to have his cpu running at 49c. Stop telling him it is ok and help him get it right.
jph1589
08-06-2006, 08:07 PM
This is what it looks like with the fan installed properly. You should be able to see the zalman label on the fan.
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The fan blows across the copper fins and should be aimed so that the heat goes out the back of the case.
petepete
08-06-2006, 08:08 PM
yes that is how it is, and it looks like the silver was put on nicely.. i dont see a problem, my case is an armor JR and it has good airflow
jph1589
08-06-2006, 08:12 PM
yes that is how it is, and it looks like the silver was put on nicely.. i dont see a problem, my case is an armor JR and it has good airflow
Post your complete system specs.
Also, what cooler was on before and what were the idle temps with that cooler?
petepete
08-06-2006, 08:14 PM
Intel Pentium 4 3.6 Ghz overclocked to 3.8 Ghz
Asus P5WD2-E
1 intake
1 exhaust fan
what else do you need to know?
i put the thermaltake cooler right away before it even started up
edit: it was the big intel cooler it started off with, but i never put it on
mikelopez
08-06-2006, 08:15 PM
btw why did you get a zalman there a cheaper/better coolers out there??
This would be more constructive if you gave examples of "cheaper/better" coolers. And even that would only apply if he hadnt already purchased the Zalman.
petepete
08-06-2006, 08:16 PM
my friend Clocked has built many computers and he put it on himself. hes on the forums here. i dont think he would mess up
Azn Tr14dZ
08-06-2006, 08:17 PM
it is fine i have seen ppl run those things at 65c oc'd
you didnt forget to apply thermal compound did you??
btw why did you get a zalman there a cheaper/better coolers out there??
You obviously don't know what you're talking about since the Zalman CNPS9500 is one of the best air coolers out there. It beats all of the cheap CPU coolers you're talking about.
petepete
08-06-2006, 08:18 PM
can someone please help me i dont know whats going on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stop proving people wrong and add a little bit of help!!!!!
please
Azn Tr14dZ
08-06-2006, 08:20 PM
I can prove people wrong if I want.
What program are you using to monitor temps?
petepete
08-06-2006, 08:20 PM
AI booster
Sys Tool
Bios
edit: speedfan
g12rxz
08-06-2006, 08:21 PM
In my honest opinion it's fine, it's a Prescott, it's going to run hot. 49C isn't that bad, besides, you should try and find out what temperature its reaching at load, if it only goes up to 55-65c then I would say its in an acceptable range for temperature.
petepete
08-06-2006, 08:21 PM
it doesnt go up at all
EDIT: its not a prescott
jph1589
08-06-2006, 08:25 PM
Intel Pentium 4 3.6 Ghz overclocked to 3.8 Ghz
Asus P5WD2-E
1 intake
1 exhaust fan
what else do you need to know?
i put the thermaltake cooler right away before it even started up
edit: it was the big intel cooler it started off with, but i never put it on
I assume your exhaust fan is in the back of the case?
Also, did you install the fan controller that comes with the Zalman or are you just controlling it from the motherboard?
petepete
08-06-2006, 08:26 PM
just from the motherboard, and i didnt see a fan controller that came with it :S
yes exhaust in back sir
jph1589
08-06-2006, 08:31 PM
it doesnt go up at all
EDIT: its not a prescott
We were assuming i guess that since it was a 3.6 775 socket that it was a prescott. But that doesn't really matter now that you said the temp doesn't go up at all on a load?
I smell a problem. Run super pi to 32million and watch the temp. If it doesn't change at all then there is a problem with whatever is monitoring your temps.
Then go into the bios into the temp monitor and let it sit on that screen for 10 minutes and report what that temp reads.
Solaris17
08-06-2006, 08:41 PM
We were assuming i guess that since it was a 3.6 775 socket that it was a prescott. But that doesn't really matter now that you said the temp doesn't go up at all on a load?
I smell a problem. Run super pi to 32million and watch the temp. If it doesn't change at all then there is a problem with whatever is monitoring your temps.
Then go into the bios into the temp monitor and let it sit on that screen for 10 minutes and report what that temp reads.
this is the best course of action i seriously hope you listen because this is what i was going to reccomend minus some punctuation and proper grammer.
jph1589
08-06-2006, 08:42 PM
In my honest opinion it's fine, it's a Prescott, it's going to run hot. 49C isn't that bad, besides, you should try and find out what temperature its reaching at load, if it only goes up to 55-65c then I would say its in an acceptable range for temperature.
Don't quit your day job.
jph1589
08-06-2006, 08:43 PM
this is the best course of action i seriously hope you listen because this is what i was going to reccomend minus some punctuation and proper grammer.
I had a boss who was an english teacher in his former life. I got tired of him getting out his red pen. But I do slip at times.
Even if it's not a Prescott t still use the Netburst arquithecture, and it still runs hot is it 90 or 65nm?
Is your case well ventilated?
cdawall
08-06-2006, 09:06 PM
ok there are to better hsf for $50 you can get a thermaltake 120 for $40 and some ok 120mm fans and it IS the best cooler out there and like i said befor does the fan blow toward the exhaust or the opposite if yoy couldnt tell w/ your hand just use a small piece of paper and if it is blown away or sucked toward you will know which way the fan blows
btw intel runs hot OK if you want it to run at like 30C get watercooling 49C is not that bad my AMD a64 3000 is at 2.44ghz and hits 55C under load (idle at 45C) and it uses a stock cooler\
edit if you want intel numbers i have a pentium d 930 w/ a $30 thermaltake jungle 512 that keeps it at 40C idle 45C load
petepete
08-07-2006, 03:53 PM
yes its an armor jr front intake side exhaust and back exhaust, and theres a space in the top where air comes out of
jph1589
08-07-2006, 03:56 PM
yes its an armor jr front intake side exhaust and back exhaust, and theres a space in the top where air comes out of
Did you do what I recommended earlier? Super pi to 32 mill and then bios temps monitoring?
WarEagleAU
08-07-2006, 04:24 PM
BTW, when you get this problem fixed and your TIM has had time to cure, your temps will be alot better. Just an FYI
jph1589
08-07-2006, 04:50 PM
BTW, when you get this problem fixed and your TIM has had time to cure, your temps will be alot better. Just an FYI
Curing will only make about a 1-2c difference. There is much more to address than that. I don't think he is interested anymore though. Too many people have told him his temps are ok and I think he is just willing to listen to them.
In closing, people who don't know what they are talking about should stay out of conversations like this. You really don't help people at all. This guy bought one of the best air coolers on the market and should be getting idle temps that are about 10c lower than they are, but since you all told him they are ok, he is going to leave it be. That is pretty SAD!!
cdawall
08-07-2006, 04:54 PM
if it is such a big temp diff maybe it is the cooler and needs to be rma'd
WarEagleAU
08-07-2006, 04:57 PM
Just for the record, I didnt tell him it was ok. Clarify next time.
jph1589
08-07-2006, 04:58 PM
if it is such a big temp diff maybe it is the cooler and needs to be rma'd
We won't ever find out.
jph1589
08-07-2006, 05:11 PM
Just for the record, I didnt tell him it was ok. Clarify next time.
Read the whole post and you will see I wasn't talking about you.
tigger
08-07-2006, 07:34 PM
i have my 930 65nm at 4.2ghz at 1.435vcore and my temp is 44c idle with a arctic freezer 7 pro.
i did consider the cpns9500 but it is noisier at the higher fan speed of that and so i got the arctic.
petepete
08-07-2006, 07:44 PM
Im not using my fan controller do you think that is the problem?
Boneface
08-07-2006, 07:51 PM
ok there are to better hsf for $50 you can get a thermaltake 120 for $40 and some ok 120mm fans and it IS the best cooler out there and like i said befor does the fan blow toward the exhaust or the opposite if yoy couldnt tell w/ your hand just use a small piece of paper and if it is blown away or sucked toward you will know which way the fan blows
btw intel runs hot OK if you want it to run at like 30C get watercooling 49C is not that bad my AMD a64 3000 is at 2.44ghz and hits 55C under load (idle at 45C) and it uses a stock cooler\
edit if you want intel numbers i have a pentium d 930 w/ a $30 thermaltake jungle 512 that keeps it at 40C idle 45C load
ive seen the 9500 cool a friends intel t 39c at 4.2gigs from 3.2...seeing that pretty much sold me on buying it....mine sits anywhere from 25 to 29c at 2.44 and load temps go no higher then 37c depending on what im doing.....And i dont use the fan controller for mine and it does fine so i wouldnt think thats it
cdawall
08-07-2006, 11:24 PM
kick maybe it will work :)
jph1589
08-07-2006, 11:28 PM
Im not using my fan controller do you think that is the problem?
You got very good advice in this thread and ingore it.
You also said there was no fan controller included.
You are now officially wasting peoples time since you refuse to respond to logical requests for information.
It really bugs me when rich little morons spend good money and then wont use the frigging brains!!
cdawall
08-07-2006, 11:30 PM
You got very good advice in this thread and ingore it.
You also said there was no fan controller included.
You are now officially wasting peoples time since you refuse to respond to logical requests for information.
It really bugs me when rich little morons spend good money and then wont use the frigging brains!!
thats just mean dont hurt the noobes feelings but realy give us some simple info and we can help you
jph1589
08-07-2006, 11:32 PM
thats just mean dont hurt the noobes feelings but realy give us some simple info and we can help you
He said his friend installed it and he also said his friend is a member of this forum. It think it is all bullshit.
He said his friend installed it and he also said his friend is a member of this forum. It think it is all bullshit.
PetePete, who's your friend?
cdawall
08-07-2006, 11:46 PM
PetePete, who's your friend?
i agree what is this some load of bs your trying to pull
mikelopez
08-07-2006, 11:49 PM
my friend Clocked has built many computers and he put it on himself. hes on the forums here. i dont think he would mess up
Here is the answer to the friend questions.
cdawall
08-07-2006, 11:53 PM
way 2 go mike but i still think he is full of it
petepete
08-08-2006, 10:22 PM
why would i be full of it because i havent had enough time to run a super pi check?
your a big loser, why would i lie about someone building my comp you retard, go pm Clocked i a dare you..
dont jump into conclusions you big dumbass
btw ur comp specs dont deserve to be on this site, probably on ebay on sale for 80 bucks max
cdawall
08-08-2006, 10:34 PM
o now you are going to insult people because there parents did shove ,oney out to by them a computer to break
jph1589
08-08-2006, 10:37 PM
The children are just playing.
cdawall
08-08-2006, 10:47 PM
The children are just playing.
thank you i agree
His specs aren't so bad, anyway stop insulting each other or you probabily get yourself banned
cdawall
08-09-2006, 04:56 PM
His specs aren't so bad, anyway stop insulting each other or you probabily get yourself banned
ummm thanks i guess
Besides the card, there are a lot of ppl with a worse computer
cdawall
08-09-2006, 09:35 PM
yeah i need to replace the vid card it is getting sad but it still gets 10k in 3dmark 2k1se
Clocked
11-14-2006, 10:19 PM
haha... u guys make me laugh.....
I did in fact build his rig, everything is put on good. guys, it's not the first computer that i've built.....
The cooler that he has is good, other then the AC Freezer 7 pro, there arn't much coolers that can match the profromence of the 2 with out sounding like a F16.
seeing that no one PMed me and everyone is on his ass.....
I think his temps are are but high my self, But it's not the the point of frying ths chip.
One info that you guys should have asked is the voltage he has running to his core......
lol.... sorry for bring up a old topic
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