New 754 Combo

[Pandaz3]

I believe that is the board I just ordered from the Egg with that super deal, the board and a 3400 Venice OEM CPU. (It will be wearing a AC Freezer 64 ) I will use a X800 Pro, after I try the onboard graphics a day or two to see how they do. I am planning on using 2 X 512 Super Talent PC3200 in it, I have that in another machine right now, it is double sided 2-3-3-6. It will have a floppy, CR-ROM, DVD-RW and a 250Gig WD 16 Meg Buffer Sata2 (I know it will be at Sata 1 transfer speeds) I will be using yet another IN-Win 583 case with the Powerman 350W PSU. I have this same case/PSU running a ASRock/ 3200 Venice combo right now. I do have a new Sparkle 400W should the need arise.

This will be another Computer for the Warden, her 2.4 Northwood is out of service, second HDD failure. I was going to strip it, but I'll just fix it later.

I am considering putting Win XP Pro X64 on it, but will likely go with Home.

I believe it to be a GA-K8VM800M-RH (I hope it is for the Lan) Motherboard and CPU were $99

The last BIOS I see on the Giggy website is FD dated December of 2005, Audio drivers are June 2006 so are pretty recent ( IF onboard is bad it will get a "Turtle Beach Santa Cruz" out of the P4) 4 in 1's are 2005, Lan 2006, If I do go Win X64 do I need to load (F6) both raid drivers? What of the VGA Driver, do you need it? Been a while since I had Via or Gigabyte.

Anything special?

[Dippyskoodlez]

If I do go Win X64 do I need to load (F6) both raid drivers? What of the VGA Driver, do you need it?

Only if you are using it. (RAID)

[Pandaz3]

No just the one Sata II drive

[Azn Tr14dZ]

If you're not going to use RAID(Only 1 Drive), then no need to press F6 and install RAID Drivers.

[Pheonix_789]

754 sucks

[Pandaz3]

754 sucks

Then don't but one. I think the 3400 Venice 754, from all I have read is a very capable single core CPU out performing a 3200 939, but is truth I have four 939s and had bypassed 754 before. I was looking for a budget machine that would outperform a P4 2.4
by a noticeable margin and I think I have found it.

The new case and PSU, $60, CPU and Mobo, $100, 250 Gig WD HHD, $97, Floppy $8. So that is $265.

I am taking the DVD Burner and the RAM out of MY computer for the Warden's and I have a spare CD-Rom. What I did do is Overclocked the order, giving a excess in parts like a new Lightscribe DVD Burner, a new AC Freezer 64 Pro for the X2 4400 939 that is tagging along, oh and the 2Gig of GSkill Ram too.

So with these extra parts from the overclocked order I hope to vastly improve my 939 machine and at the same time, stay out of solitary confinement, by giving the Warden a new spiffy 754 machine.

When you get married you will learn to survive the budget edicts thru more efficient use of overclocked orders.

Do 754's Suck? You have no idea what you are talking about! 754's Rule!

[supraman]

The Athlon 64s really didn't benefit all that much from dual channel memory so 939 never had much of a performance lead over 754. In my experience the dual channel only compensates for around 100MHz extra on the core, where AMD's numbers say 200MHz. As a result 754s tend to perform slightly better than 939s with the same rating. I’m guessing your new 3400 should just about equal a 939 3500 ;)

[Pandaz3]

I am pretty sure the Warden will be Happy, that's whats important. I did pay attention and it does seemas if 754s got a bad rap. People comparing them to a high end CPU, how about comparing to a top level Celeron? Then the 754's shine

[Dippyskoodlez]

754 sucks

Please post something useful next time instead of thread crapping with a useless spam post. :wtf:

[Pheonix_789]

Please post something useful next time instead of thread crapping with a useless spam post. :wtf:


I just upgraded from A 754 Set-up.....:wtf:

It was a peice....

Single Channel DDR1
Limited Overclocking
Horrible Memory Bottle Necks
3 Dimms of 512, Stresses the Memory controller to much

Only avaible processors are Semprons, ocasionally an Athlon

[Pandaz3]

Thats understandable, I am getting a A64, probably the last of the 754 designs with a 3rd version Mobo, I know it will not be dual channel, but I will use two 512's of good speed Ram.
She is more worried about being online than anything.

[cdawall]

i dont know why people complian about s754 so much it is not the top of the line i know that but they run pretty damn good and as for limited overclocking the only limit they normally have is the overclocker (you know an operator prob) and ram bottlenecks suck but the limit was about ddr460 what is the fastest ddr1 o/c memory im pretty sure its only ddr500 you get a total of 40mhz big f'in woop w/ good timings @460mhz you could catch the ddr500 so stop dissing the s754 cause it sure as hell blew the p4s it was targeted at look @ mine@2.44ghz it ouperformed in sisandra soft 2k5 up to the 4ghz p4 w/ my amd running ddr266 ok so dont rap on the s754 just cause its old

[b1lk1]

I just upgraded from A 754 Set-up.....:wtf:

It was a peice....

Single Channel DDR1
Limited Overclocking
Horrible Memory Bottle Necks
3 Dimms of 512, Stresses the Memory controller to much

Only avaible processors are Semprons, ocasionally an Athlon

Going from a S754 setup to a pentium D 805 is not much of a step forward.

I agree with everyone else besides you.

[cdawall]

i dont think phoenix knows about some of the plus' of a s7654 the occasional athlon you talked of are 64bit and run faster than there s939 & now s am2 counterparts

[Pandaz3]

It ended up a rev. 2 board. I have it in and running, the onboard looks good. I have XP Home and Ubuntu 64 dual booting. The Warden won't like the Linux, but I took the shells out of her gun. Apartment's T-1 line on the fritz yet again, so until I can hook it to cable I cannot update and Download some of the things I need.

Looking good so far.

[Pheonix_789]

:laugh: Going from a S754 setup to a pentium D 805 is not much of a step forward.

I agree with everyone else besides you.


754 is a dead socket ,just like AGP.

And I can play FEAR on my 805 at max computer settings, and with my video card at max settings, with no chop.

I have my processor clocked at 3.6Ghz, 800 FSB 2X 1Mb cashe , thats alot better than a my 754 set-up. This is a pretty decent budget processor, I believe its alot faster than a 3200...:laugh:

At least I can get eventually upgrade to a Core 2..

Typical AMD fan :shadedshu
Enjoy your poor memory controller..

[Pheonix_789]

i dont think phoenix knows about some of the plus' of a s7654 the occasional athlon you talked of are 64bit and run faster than there s939 & now s am2 counterparts


thats a complete joke

I like to see a 3400 754 out perform a 3800 X2(939/AM2), 3700 (939/AM2) or even an AMD Athlon FX 62.......


I like AMD just not socket 754.......

[Dippyskoodlez]

At least I can get eventually upgrade to a Core 2..

Typical AMD fan :shadedshu
Enjoy your poor memory controller..

Actually, the P5RD2-VM doesn't have the correct PWM to handle the core 2 duo, so you're f'd with the right socket, but an inadequate mobo.

http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=179&model=1020&modelmenu=1

Enjoy your dead socket.

[Pheonix_789]

I already know that, I was going to upgrade to a MSI P965 Neo-F, in the near future so I can upgrade to a core duo, notice how I said eventually lol.

[Dippyskoodlez]

I already know that, I was going to upgrade to a MSI P965 Neo-F, in the near future so I can upgrade to a core duo, notice how I said eventually lol.

Well with his socket 754 rig, he could buy a cpu and mobo aswell to upgrade to 939. The performance will be neglegible however.. unless your a performance freak that wants that 3-5fps..

So theres really no difference between a dead socket 754 and p4 only LGA mobo deal..(Except for better CPU support on the socket 754)

Except the socket 754 will perform like your P4 for 1/3 the price. :nutkick:

[Pheonix_789]

A sempron wouldnt..

[Pheonix_789]

Single Channel DDR1
Limited Overclocking
Horrible Memory Bottle Necks
3 Dimms of 512, Stresses the Memory controller to much (recommended to only use 2 Dimms at the most)

Only available processors are Semprons, ocasionally an Athlon

DEAD SOCKET

[Pheonix_789]

:shadedshu clawhammers were so hard to overclock....

[Dippyskoodlez]

:shadedshu clawhammers were so hard to overclock....

Not any different from other Athlon 64's. Besides, he got a VENICE. I bet it would stomp your P4 overclocked. Probably almost 3ghz.

A sempron wouldnt..
This is a 3400+ A64 with mobo deal for $100. theres no sempron involved, and if you were wondering, yes my AM2 sempron will put a beating on your 3.6ghz P4.
Single Channel DDR1
Limited Overclocking
Horrible Memory Bottle Necks
3 Dimms of 512, Stresses the Memory controller to much (recommended to only use 2 Dimms at the most)

Only available processors are Semprons, ocasionally an Athlon

DEAD SOCKET

There are plenty of Athlon 64's available, and the semprons are VERY capable of performing well.

Memory isnt that big of a problem. can you say4-8% performance? :rolleyes:

Try 2x 1gb dimms. :rolleyes:

This isnt an intel setup. Single channel doesnt give you performance down the drain, nor does a lack of cache.

[powerup]

I believe it to be a GA-K8VM800M-RH (I hope it is for the Lan) Motherboard and CPU were $99

Yep, I own that motherboard. It would be overclockable if the AGP/PCI clocks where locked and not unlocked but mind you I got 209fsb @ 69/36 AGP/PCI. Everyone knows this but when you go in the BIOS Press Crtl + F1 and you will unlock so much options:)

[Dippyskoodlez]

Yep, I own that motherboard. It would be overclockable if the AGP/PCI clocks where locked and not unlocked but mind you I got 209fsb @ 69/36 AGP/PCI. Everyone knows this but when you go in the BIOS Press Crtl + F1 and you will unlock so much options:)

I believe Via has been including PCI locks with the more recent chipsets havent they? :confused:

[powerup]

I believe Via has been including PCI locks with the more recent chipsets havent they? :confused:
hmm not sure with there newer boards. All I know is this motherboard would be kick but if it was locked than the AGP/PCI speeds would stay @ 66/33. If you want to put more voltage on the cpu you cant, becuase If you go to systool and go to to the voltage options and the bar shows 0.8V to 1.550V well the cpu only needs 1.5V but if you put 1.550V when you apply it the computer restarts.

But if you want to see what the BIOS is when its unlocked, I made a video for the users that are using the same motherboard has me and you

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6285876819471176193

[Dippyskoodlez]

hmm not sure with there newer boards. All I know is this motherboard would be kick but if it was locked than the AGP/PCI speeds would stay @ 66/33. If you want to put more voltage on the cpu you cant, becuase If you go to systool and go to to the voltage options and the bar shows 0.8V to 1.550V well the cpu only needs 1.5V but if you put 1.550V when you apply it the computer restarts.

But if you want to see what the BIOS is when its unlocked, I made a video for the users that are using the same motherboard has me and you

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6285876819471176193

Whats under:
AGP and p2p bridge control
LDT and PCI bus control

This is where the frequencies and/or DIVIDERS should be. :)

[powerup]

Whats under:
AGP and p2p bridge control
LDT and PCI bus control

This is where the frequencies and/or DIVIDERS should be. :)

Lol the AGP and P2P bridge control is alittle funny.
- AGP apture size 64MB, 128MB, 256MB, 512MB, 1GB
- It also has the other options like write speed etc..

LDT and PCI bus control
- HT muti 5x to 3x (I think so) and some other options.

[cdawall]

thats a complete joke

I like to see a 3400 754 out perform a 3800 X2(939/AM2), 3700 (939/AM2) or even an AMD Athlon FX 62.......


I like AMD just not socket 754.......

ok did i say that it could beat those models NO i said it could beat the idintical numbers you know a s754 3000+ against a s939 3000+ and a s am2 3000+ ok and my cheapo system can beat your stupid pentium d 805 what does it get in super pi????? i get 39s w/ STOCK cooling and a minor 480mhz o/c

[Pheonix_789]

ok did i say that it could beat those models NO i said it could beat the idintical numbers you know a s754 3000+ against a s939 3000+ and a s am2 3000+ ok and my cheapo system can beat your stupid pentium d 805 what does it get in super pi????? i get 39s w/ STOCK cooling and a minor 480mhz o/c



Seriously, get a life...

You all are a bunch of real winners..... :rolleyes:

No really.....:wtf:

[Dippyskoodlez]

Seriously, get a life...

You all are a bunch of real winners..... :rolleyes:

No really.....:wtf:
:wtf:


Let this thread die please people..