0.25 Beta 15

[W1zzard]

Add support for X1900 GT, X1800 GTO, X1950 XTX and others
Fixed wrong memory clock on NVIDIA G7x
On ATI cards with 2D/3D modes ATITool will automatically switch to 3D Mode until a dystem restart
Changed ATI clock setting method
BIOS dump will work on all X1000 cards now


http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/341

[W1zzard]

Sorry about the huge delay. I had a lot of things to do in real life and ATI has made X1000 overclocking EXTREMELY painful from a developer side :(

Please report back your findings with this version so it can be improved quickly. I really want to get this working ASAP.

[millyons]

i dont know if im doing something wrong but when ever i install it its beta 14, witch i uninstaled previoously

[W1zzard]

sorry .. i uploaded the wrong file .. 1 sec

[Doomsoldier]

Showing up as beta 14 for me too !!

[millyons]

kk just let us know when u upp the right one

[Doomsoldier]

W1zzard, You are too fast for me man.

[millyons]

lol its like a chat room now :)

so with these changes for the x1xxx cards we dont have to enable the services or do we

[creidiki]

Welcome back! \o/

[W1zzard]

ok new file is online, same link ... no need to disable services or anything

[millyons]

eu mirror is still old :)

but tried it and unfortinatly i cant use it :(

I have a x1800gto2 with a xt pe bios and unfortinatly my mem cant handle 800mhz and the scteen aftifacts as soon as i open ati tool

i dont feel like flashing bioses atm but ill test it out a bit sooner or later

with the gto support u put does that also mean the gto2 since its a x1800xt with a different bios?

[gR3iF]

hm not working on my x1900xt after starting i can see myself in front of a black screen only restart fixed it

[some1]

Yep, the old power save blank screen problem is still there, as the card switches between 2D and 3D modes

[millyons]

when i think about it, i honestly wouldn't like 3d mode as soon as i start atitool and until i restart, i like it better like it is now when i can change between them or have atitool automaticly switch when it detects 3d mode, in other words i would probably stick to beta 24 even if this one worked for me

my 2cents

[mR Yellow]

w000t :toast: :respect:

Finally my fav oc tool is updated :cool:
Thx W1zzard! I've been checking your site on a regular basis for an update.
I even thought that the TOOL died. But thnk heavens its not!

[W1zzard]

millyons if your card cant handle 3d clock speeds how do you use it in games?

[ARTOSOFT]

Thanks W1zzard for 0.25 beta 15 :rockout: . Even if my problem may not solved, at least you are still maintain ATITool.

Regards,
Arto.

[pt]

cool, i now have temp. control, voltage regulator, and fan regulator for my X1800GTO,
Thanks W1zzard :)

(no more rivatuner for me now)

[ace80]

Cheers for the update Wizz :)

Re-flashed my x1800gto with original bios to see if it works, as pt mentions all fan, voltages and temp monitoring works. Unfortunalty finding max core and mem dont. When i hit find max core it runs for 3 secs then freezes, same for mem. I've tried enabling and disabling both ati services with no difference. Any ideas?

[W1zzard]

yeah the problem seems to be that with the new clock setting methods the steps in clock are quite big .. i'll work on this .. but i found it important to get out a new version for the gt(o) users and x1950 testers

[HaZe303]

Nice!!! Good Work you guys... this one was long over due!! ;)

Thx

[Dr.Dos]

Just wanted to stop and say "cheers and thanks a lot for your hard work". Hope your real life effort paid off for you.

Greetings from Cologne

[ace80]

yeah the problem seems to be that with the new clock setting methods the steps in clock are quite big .. i'll work on this ..
Cool wizz no probs, hope u get it working.
I'll just reflash the card and go back to b14 for now.

[millyons]

millyons if your card cant handle 3d clock speeds how do you use it in games?

all ati stuf is disabled so i just set it with atitool for gaming at 700core 750mem i just forgot that i have xt pe bios flashed with 3d clock of 800 for the ram, witch my ram can't handle

[Lt_JWS]

Just wanted to say thanks to W1zzard :D Keep up the good work!

[b1lk1]

How about X1800 XT owners? I am having major issues, clocks not setting, memory won't go past 792, lockups, freezes. One thing I must say, when it works right, I can get 700 on the core on stock VGPU. Any suggestions?

[b1lk1]

Also, still not working for my crossfire setup very well. Sets the Master to 3D mo problem, but getting the slave into 3D is a challenge. In fact, it will not change the clocks on my slave card at all. What a bummer.

[powerup]

W1zzard

When I open ati tool on my X1600Pro and let it scan for 1 second, the program freezes. I dont know if its my windows or somthing but idk why it does that

[Haste]

Hi W1zzard and welcome back,

I've tried Catalyst 6.8 + Beta15 release and there are some issues:

1. It's nice to see you working on the new way to overclock via ati2evxx
2. It works a bit weird. Setting core frequency works great even switching between 2D/3D modes. BUT, thats all i think. Its not possible to set memory frequency higher then 792MHz unless u have it saved in profile from B14 release. Another big issue are 3D voltages. You can set them as you wish BUT they do not stay for 3D mode and are reset to default 3D voltages (1.45V read via RivaTuner). The same problem is with VDDCI voltage, after entering 3D mode the VDDCI is reset to 1.486V.
3. ATiTool reads Catalysts 6.8 as Catalyst 6.7
4. Loading a profile is not working correctly as it was in previous release. (Core speed OK, MEM speed at default 2D, voltages at default 3D?)

AMD X2 3800+
2GB Corsair
Sapphire X1900XT 512MB
ATI Crossfire Xpress1600(A8R-MVP)
WindowsXP SP2

I hope it helps.

[danstar25]

Wizzard, thanks for the update and your time spent on ATI tool.

I have x1800xt crossfire setup and had a little time before i left this morning to download it and give it a try. I uninstalled old, saved the settings, rebooted, downloaded and installed new. As soon as i started it up, screen garbled artifacts. Rebooted, uninstalled beta 15, this time did not save settings, rebooted. This time I reenableb the 2 ati services. Reboot again, Installed beta 15 started it up and got screen garble again. This time when I rebooted, the found new hardware device came up trying to install some new hardware. In the ballon in the bottom right it said found new hardware "atitool driver". I tried to fire up ati tool again and i got same results as before.
I had minimal time this morning, so ill try again later tonight. I may have had to many beers last night:toast:

This was with offical cats 6.7

[Dippyskoodlez]

my X850XT is working great with this beta. :) (actually, its working better than B14)

[aloha]

:( i no found to up volt. x1600pro

[ARTOSOFT]

:( i no found to up volt. x1600pro
I guess x1600pro doesn't have this voltage feature. I am using x1600pro card too.

Regards,
Arto.

[webman]

Many thanks for your hard work, have been using atitools for 2 months now since I got my first ati card and so far I'm very happy with it. But I'm afraid I'm having major screen corruption with this new release. It doesn't happen all the time but sometimes my screen goes like this (http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2593/003kd2.jpg) when I try to lauch atitool.(also my screen momentally goes black) When I'm lucky vpu recover kicks in after few seconds and my screen goes back to normal, but usually I have to hard reset my PC when this happens. I have x1800xt and I'm using catalyst 6.8. I'm now back to 0.25 Beta 14 beta so no problem here, just thought maybe I should report this. Cheers.

[superfarstucker]

I can't exceed 792 MHz on my X1900XTX which, obviously, is really weak. With 6.3 beta 14 I could bench @ 800/900 and play at 750/850. I haven't had any success since 6.4 and above, which is extremely irritating, in fact I just updated to 6.8 from 6.3 tonight, hoping beta 15 would rectify the situation. Core clocks seem to be free ranging but it won't allow me to set the proper memory speed. In fact, the whole clockspeed control seems to be very buggy as it won't downclock automatically or anything for me, after I go into 3d clocks i'm stuck.

Still, a vast improvement over 6.4-6.7 with beta 14, which, for me, resulted in a black screen whenever I tried to change clock speeds. The new ATi drivers suck, It makes me want to take a shit on the developer's pancakes and piss in their coffee, and that would only be reciprocal.

[giorgos th.]

also recognizes my 7900GT and shows properly mem clock,pipelines etc.
nice work there..

[GLD]

Thank you W1zzard for your incredible work on your excellent ATi tool. I am endeared to it for the fan control and temp. logs for my X850XT. Thank you for your continually awesome work!

PRICELESS! :)

[SPHERE]

ati tool icon isnt showing up in task bar (windows xp x1900gt sp2)

thanks for the update w1zz :)

[aloha]

artosoft
why hi write what one can do ?



sorry my english

[Apocalypsee]

I just updated to this new one and to my surprise it cant overclock a single MHz!!! It keeps revert back to the default speed. I use X1800GTO flashed to XL BIOS which is working fine before

[Rurouni Strife]

On my Sapphire X1800GTO, I can't change the clock settings. At all. It won't let me OC. Beta 14 worked fine though.

[Cpt.nemo]

only default 500\500 on Powercolor 1800gto.on beta 14 Gpu555\Mem666!

[Rattle]

thanks for the update W1zzard will try it out

[eloko]

I like more the Beta 14 for GT, because the beta 15 doesn't let me oc and doesn't let me change voltages..
Another bug that the beta 14 have for GT, when i play Hitman or GTA my OC change to default

[superfarstucker]

If you terminate the process ati2evxx or whatever you will not be able to ramp up the clock speeds

[Rurouni Strife]

Yea, i fixed that and it still didn't work. It seemed like it did at first but after i set the slider options to apply immidately, stopped even acting like it. I'm using b14 for now and it works fine.

[Nobleatreides]

ATI Tool Beta 15 does not set my clocks when I adjust the slider, or manually enter the digits. ATI X1800XL 256M, Asus A8N-E, Fresh install of XPSP2, lots of RAM, too many HDD letters. No biggie, the 3D front for gaming is for the pits nowadays. Waiting, and spit shining my Widescreen LG204 for CNC3.

[Nitrogliserin]

I just updated to this new one and to my surprise it cant overclock a single MHz!!! It keeps revert back to the default speed. I use X1800GTO flashed to XL BIOS which is working fine before


same here :banghead:
I'll back to 14

[eloko]

If you terminate the process ati2evxx or whatever you will not be able to ramp up the clock speeds

that service is not working, and only happend on games..

[ElAguila]

I posted this feedback in the beta 14. Sorry about that. Made some progress with this build. My system doesn't crash when viewing an avi and when viewing an mpg file the clocks are still set back to the 2D default. But before they would be set to 100MHz or more below the default.

UPDATE:

working great!! I am getting ready to install the 6.8 cats and see how it does.

[superfarstucker]

If you cannot change clocks you must: set ati hotkey poller to "auto" in services.msc and REBOOT the machine. I can confirm this works with 6.8 & b 15. I get no functionality at all with b 14 and 6.8, the machine simply freezes whenever a clock change is attempted, so at least this is an improvement, albeit with severe limitations.

[Gnerma]

Count me among those X1800 GTO + cat 6.8 users who can't set clock speeds. Both of my ATi services are set to auto. I'm using my card's original bios although I had flashed an XL bios to have access to voltage etc.

[IluvIntel]

If you cannot change clocks you must: set ati hotkey poller to "auto" in services.msc and REBOOT the machine. I can confirm this works with 6.8 & b 15. I get no functionality at all with b 14 and 6.8, the machine simply freezes whenever a clock change is attempted, so at least this is an improvement, albeit with severe limitations.

Right, so thats the problem...:banghead: I was annoyed when disabling ati hotkey poller like we use to do and then beta14 would o/c alright. BUT now its the other way around... I'm glad I read this forum now !

Using cat 6.8 and beta15 woudl result in blank screen before, so I hope this new technique fixes that.:)

[Steevo]

With a flashed BIOS to a XTPE and default 3D at 695-792 1.3core 1.8mem, I could launch and it ran up to 720 core before I got a screen full of green and yellow lines (vertical in case you were wondering). After a couple times of trying this I started overclocker and set my core to 1.375 and memory to 1.9 and ran up to 765 core before I got errors, the VPU stopped responding.

If the 2D-3D change is made before the launch when is the voltage change applied? And why such big steps in frequency?

[Steevo]

OK, if the voltage reading is correct then it is adding voltage beyond what is specified for the 3D switch. At the switch ATItool is showing vcore to be 1.45 volts where as overclocker is showing 1.375 volts.

After much testing I have determined that either I am underpowering the card (PSU in general) or that AA/AF is bringing me to my knees on clocks-power.

Stable at 545core (showing 1.42 volts core)with no AA/AF in CCC 6.7's it locks if AA/AF is applied and the same clocks-power are used.

Now for more power as my temps are still sub 70C at 100% fan. But tomorrow for that.

[BlueKnight]

Hail,
first of all tnk W1zzard for this new beta.

Now, whit my PowerColor X1800XT 512Mb i have a lot of problems. Whit 2 ATI services active, i can create a 3D Profile in the game and modify them, but i can't modify default profile used in 2d whit frequency i desire.
Whit 2 service block i can't set any frequency different from 600/700..if i try they return immediatly to 594/693.

In the 2 case i can't setting frequenxy under the defualt and so i can't create a 2D profile as in beta14 351/351.

Bye bye

[ElAguila]

A couple of things that I had to do to get it working for me. Maybe it will help someone else. First if you have been using the ccc overdrive you should remove ccc and then install it again so it will lock the overdrive and reset the default speeds. After doing this, do a clean install of atitool beta 15(as in remove the older version first). Make sure you do not terminate the ati services with this version. After I did these things, I was able to oc and have my clocks stay where I wanted them. Great job W1zzard!:respect:

[YeCkeL]

I am having an issue with the newist beta i am having up to 70% cpu usage from atitool and ati2evxxx.exe. And it causes massive slow downs in the 3d window. Any ideas what i could be doing wrong?

[ARTOSOFT]

Just want to inform W1zzard, the main page: http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/ still shown v0.25 beta 14 instead of v0.25 beta 15.

Regards,
Arto.

[BlueKnight]

Just want to inform W1zzard, the main page: http://www.techpowerup.com/atitool/ still shown v0.25 beta 14 instead of v0.25 beta 15.

Regards,
Arto.

Probably because the b15 give a lot of problems and the b14 at last is stable ;)

[mR Yellow]

Im having the same issue with clocks not sticking or rather i can't even change them! I have no problems with rivatuner...but thats not my OC tool of choice.

I'm using 1800XL.

[ElAguila]

I am getting a lot of artifacts with this version. I can get my clocks to stay but I get artifacts just clocking to the normal 3d speeds.

[some1]

At last i can overclock my X1900XT

However, only having managed to reach 654/792 i have noticed something.

To overclock the gpu past 654mhz, i need to increase the vgpu voltage to 1.450v, seems fair enough, but ATITool 0.25 beta 15 cannot and does not seem to remember my voltage selection. Always defaulting back to 1.425v

Secondly, how do i get past the problem of only reaching 792mhz for the ram?

[YeCkeL]

At last i can overclock my X1900XT

However, only having managed to reach 654/792 i have noticed something.

To overclock the gpu past 654mhz, i need to increase the vgpu voltage to 1.450v, seems fair enough, but ATITool 0.25 beta 15 cannot and does not seem to remember my voltage selection. Always defaulting back to 1.425v

Secondly, how do i get past the problem of only reaching 792mhz for the ram?

Make sure you hit in the profile box properties and check the voltage to load on profile to! :rockout:

[some1]

Make sure you hit in the profile box properties and check the voltage to load on profile to! :rockout:

I hear ya, but i checked today, loaded ati tool after booting pc, and clicked to load my 3D profile, clocks at 661/792 and vgpu voltage was saved to 1.450v, and it says 1.425v

[ssgwright]

ok with my x1900xtx cat 6.8 and beta 15 i can save my clocks with ati tool but i have 2 problems...

1. my voltage won't save to my profile and when a 3d app runs it reverts back 1.425

2. memory won't go above 792 (im assuming this has something to do with CCC since CCC won't go above 792 either

can anyone help?

[dertimaushh]

I'cant downclock my x1800xt 512 anymore. Using Cat. 6.8. Always when i set the clocks below default something resets it to default Speeds :banghead:

With b14 and Cat 6.3 erverything worked fine, but i think Cat 6.3 is a bit outdated. :( I've flashed the PE Bios for now. But my Card needs to much power in 2d Mode for 24/7. That why i want to downclock it in 2d to 400/400 @0,95V (lowest rock stable setting). Maybe i'll try to flash these numbers in the Bios? What to you think?

[ssgwright]

ok with my x1900xtx cat 6.8 and beta 15 i can save my clocks with ati tool but i have 2 problems...

1. my voltage won't save to my profile and when a 3d app runs it reverts back 1.425

2. memory won't go above 792 (im assuming this has something to do with CCC since CCC won't go above 792 either

can anyone help?

now i heard something to the effect of if you save your settings from the 14 beta and put them into the new beta 15 directory they'll work, is that true?

[ssgwright]

At last i can overclock my X1900XT

However, only having managed to reach 654/792 i have noticed something.

To overclock the gpu past 654mhz, i need to increase the vgpu voltage to 1.450v, seems fair enough, but ATITool 0.25 beta 15 cannot and does not seem to remember my voltage selection. Always defaulting back to 1.425v

Secondly, how do i get past the problem of only reaching 792mhz for the ram?

missed this post, this is my exact problem too

[BlueKnight]

I'cant downclock my x1800xt 512 anymore. Using Cat. 6.8. Always when i set the clocks below default something resets it to default Speeds :banghead:

With b14 and Cat 6.3 erverything worked fine, but i think Cat 6.3 is a bit outdated. :( I've flashed the PE Bios for now. But my Card needs to much power in 2d Mode for 24/7. That why i want to downclock it in 2d to 400/400 @0,95V (lowest rock stable setting). Maybe i'll try to flash these numbers in the Bios? What to you think?

SAME PROBLEM! ;)

[ssgwright]

SAME PROBLEM! ;)

well with the new beta 15 make sure you DON'T stop the ati proccesses or unlock the catalyst control center overdrive (if you did just uninstall CCC and reinstall it)

then when you overclock it will automatically switch to whatever clocks you set it at when a 3d app starts.. so say you set your clocks and u start a 3d app when u exit the application the clocks will revert to stock BUT run the app again and alt-tab and check your clocks they should be where u set them.. the only problems with this beta is the memory timmings won't go higher then catalyst control center allow and also the voltages won't save, they will revert back to stock settings

[YeCkeL]

Hey now i still have a high cpu usage issue does any one else own a amd and have the dualcore opimizer installled?

[iLLestOne]

Does this mean that I can set the clocks in ati tool, and then just leave it running and they will stick when I go to 3d (and volts will stick)?
1900xt (BAD oc'er so far...only like 650/735 so far :( : ( )

[ElAguila]

I think there is definitely something about these newer drivers that ati is not talking about. When I had the 6.3 drivers with atitool beta 14 I could oc to 702/783 without any artifacts or issues and game for quite some time. With the same card and upgrading to the cat 6.8, the ccc overdrive will only give me 689/720. If I use beta 15 of atitool I get artifacts at 600 on the gpu. I am not sure what is going on but I am getting ready to go back to the 6.3 drivers.

[ssgwright]

your probably not making sure your voltages are at least at 1.425 (they're probably in 2d voltage mode) also to illestone i can get the clocks to save but the voltages revert back to stock CCC volts

[Mk4ever]

To the wonderful person who developed a tool, made it available for everyone for free, made a forum to hear from us and is fixing and adding features he'll probably never use: Many thanks man. your effort is truely appreciated. :)

Not to take a lot of ur time:

1- 9800se with and without softmod is detected wrongly to have default core 13.5 / memory 2.31 starting from version .25 beta 9 till the last version (beta 8 also gave wrong but different numbers than those mentioned).
2- testing the card gives crashes at any given speeds.
3- (out of subject) softmodded catalyst 6.7 is giving error messages (cannot copy *** file). don't know if it's me alone or other people have that problem.

1st and 2nd problem are discussed at rage3d forum here (http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33865003) if u need more details.

Again many thanks.

[ElAguila]

I have the voltages set the same on mine. I am going to go back to the 6.3 cats tomorrow and see how they do with the new beta 15. I guess the question now is do I leave the atihotkey poller service running in the 6.3 cats that I do right now in the 6.8 cats.

[Hotdog]

Howdy hoo.

Using an X1900XT, and the newest version of Omega Drivers (based off of Cat 6.7), is there any way to overclock with ATITOOL?

Ati Tray tools won't let me, and ATI Tool is stuck at the stock speeds, ie, keeps resetting when I move it.

thanks :)

[THunDA]

Just for the record im having problems setting my memory speed.. no matter what I select it always moves back to default as soon as I press set clocks.. Core speeds seem to stick ok though.. I'll be looking foward to the next release !

[ARTOSOFT]

I am just realized that beta 15 doesn't allow me to overclock my card. Back to beta 14 and everything back again (overclocking is ok).

Regards,
Arto.

[BlueKnight]

well with the new beta 15 make sure you DON'T stop the ati proccesses or unlock the catalyst control center overdrive (if you did just uninstall CCC and reinstall it)

then when you overclock it will automatically switch to whatever clocks you set it at when a 3d app starts.. so say you set your clocks and u start a 3d app when u exit the application the clocks will revert to stock BUT run the app again and alt-tab and check your clocks they should be where u set them.. the only problems with this beta is the memory timmings won't go higher then catalyst control center allow and also the voltages won't save, they will revert back to stock settings

Sorry, but what VGA have you?!

[Assimilator]

First of all, I'd like to say a big THANK YOU to W1zzard for this great tool. When I had my 9800 SE/Pro ATITool was the only app I used for tweaking; with my move to the "dark side" (nVidia) I have found less use for it, but it's still one of my preferred overclocking tools.

Anyway, now onto the bug report ;). I'm using a GeForce 6800 GT, but while I can easily find the max memory frequency, using "find max core" causes a STOP error when the core clock gets to around 418MHz. (XP says that the device driver nv4_disp.dll went into an infinite loop.)

I know it's not a problem with the card itself, as manually setting the core to anything higher than that (e.g. 425MHz) works fine. This has happened on ATITool 0.25b14 with both the 91.31 and 91.45 ForceWare drivers, I will download 0.25b15 and test tonight to see if it's still an issue.

[ssgwright]

Sorry, but what VGA have you?!

x1900xtx

[ssgwright]

I have the voltages set the same on mine. I am going to go back to the 6.3 cats tomorrow and see how they do with the new beta 15. I guess the question now is do I leave the atihotkey poller service running in the 6.3 cats that I do right now in the 6.8 cats.

with beta 15 you should be able to leave the services running

[wetlegs6]

Hi w1zzard,

This new beta doesnt work on my X1600 AGP.

Its the 256Mb version by Sapphire, whenever I tell it to find either core or mem the cube loads and starts the "No errors for" thing but as soon as it gets to 3 seconds the program freezes and nearly takes down Windows with it...

It worked fine on Beta 14...

[BlueKnight]

x1900xtx

WE HAVE a X1800XT...and all we have this problem.

[ARTOSOFT]

Hi w1zzard,

This new beta doesnt work on my X1600 AGP.

Its the 256Mb version by Sapphire, whenever I tell it to find either core or mem the cube loads and starts the "No errors for" thing but as soon as it gets to 3 seconds the program freezes and nearly takes down Windows with it...

It worked fine on Beta 14...
Me too, x1600pro AGP 512MB. I am back to beta 14. Work fine for me. Hopefully W1zzard fix it on next beta (or release).

Regards,
Arto.

[ElAguila]

Here are a couple of things that I noticed. I removed the 6.8 cats and installed the 6.3 cats again. I used beta 15 and the clocks regardless of what I set them to would always go to the stock 3d settings. If I stopped the atihotkey poller service it would keep my selected clock settings but I couldn't oc as high as I did on 6.3 with beta 14. I installed beta 14 and all was well again. ATI has definitely changed something and I don't know if they are trying to force users towards their overdrive or what but something screwy is going on and I take my hat of to W1zzard for trying to sort it all out and give us a good oc program.

[BlueKnight]

Here are a couple of things that I noticed. I removed the 6.8 cats and installed the 6.3 cats again. I used beta 15 and the clocks regardless of what I set them to would always go to the stock 3d settings. If I stopped the atihotkey poller service it would keep my selected clock settings but I couldn't oc as high as I did on 6.3 with beta 14. I installed beta 14 and all was well again. ATI has definitely changed something and I don't know if they are trying to force users towards their overdrive or what but something screwy is going on and I take my hat of to W1zzard for trying to sort it all out and give us a good oc program.

The Catalyst are changed from version 6.4 and following. An example is the management of the audio and video flows. On the X1800 if you see a normal video whit the Cat 6.4 and the frequency are overcloked or downclocked...all crash. Whit Cat 6.3 no problems. This is for me, and i think for all possesors of a X1800 the only problem of b14, all was OK.

Bye

[n8236]

Thank you for your dedication Wiz.

Using Apple MacBook Pro w/ ATI x1600 and .25b15 isn't working for me either. Screen goes to NEAR darkness when i run it and the mem/core would jump to 945/945 which doesn't make sense.

.25B14 works like a charm though.

[Drewster]

Well firstly, I just wanted to thank you W1zz. You have made a great program that I have been using for as long as I can remember.

Currently Im running an X1800 XT, before beta 15 I have never been able to keep the clock speeds set to what I wanted them to be when I ran a game - beta 15 fixed this, however I have only one small issue.

I overclock my card to 695/792 Core/Mem, yet for some reason I cant seem to get my Memory speed past 792...anyone else having any issues like this?

Its possible It could be my voltage settings however another issue I have found is that my voltages dont stay to what I set them to after I have saved them, but could it be possible I cant push my memory further because Im not giving it enough voltage? - Also i dont even have CCC installed if that could be a factor, I just use the display driver.

Anyone with an X1800 XT, if you wouldnt mind, post what ur clock speeds and voltages are just to see what is a safe zone and what isnt.

Lol sorry for all the reading, any help at all would be greatly appreciated :)

Thanks

[BeJotHaDe]

Beta 15 doesn't work on my Sapphire Radeon x1600 pro AGP neither with BIOS version 2C8501SA-004 nor latest BIOS 2C8501SA-007 and Catalyst 6.7 (i thought i had just installad 6.8 :confused:)

Overclocking and "Try to keep GPU temperature at:" both don't work

[Raovac]

:pimp:
Drewster, Set your VGPU to 1.325V, and your MVDDQ to 2.124V. Leave the MVDDC @ 2.097V. You should be able to hit 700/801 with no problem. ;)

[Drewster]

Thanks for the reply Raovac,

I changed the voltages to what you said however, I am still not able to get my memory clock speed above 792, I think its just a problem with beta 15, also the program seems to lag now when changing clock speeds (if that hasnt been mentioned already).

Just some info for ya W1zz for the next version :)

[iLLestOne]

Any recommended volts for a 1900xt? My max right now is around 655/745 w/ a 4400 @ 2.9ghz and ram at 290 2.5-3-3-8...the only thing holding me back is my crappy 1900xt! any recommendations on oc'ing this thing? ATI tool just goes up by 10mhz a a time, and then makes my comp freeze around 280mhz on the core....it doesn't run like older ati tool's ran on my x800xt-pe....

[bonbon]

hi, its a great tool :)

but i have a mysterious problem when i confirm to start atitool with windows...
when i play a game - all is fine
but when i exit the game and start an other, than i have no more anti aliasing and all other imagesettings are very low in the game oO

dont know why?! :(

sorry bad english =D
in german:

beim starten eines spiels ist das bild noch einwandfrei, beende ich es und starte dieses spiel oder ein anderes nochmal, dann hab ich plötzlich kein antialiasing usw mehr im spiel :( das passiert immer, wenn atitool mit windows startet :(


"I overclock my card to 695/792 Core/Mem, yet for some reason I cant seem to get my Memory speed past 792...anyone else having any issues like this?"

same here!!!!!

[vesper8]

well.. i noticed one thing which may be of some importance to some of you. Yesterday I reinstalled my catalyst 6.8s and this time I only installed the WDMs and the DD, I forfeited the CCC.. and since I've done that AtiTool beta 15 now runs a lot better. I now have access to the 'driver tweaks' section whereas before any changes I made there would just revert back the moment I clicked my mouse elsewhere. The AA/AF settings also now work inside AtiTool.

I did not disable any of the ati services.

I did not try to OC either.. I'll wait for the beta 16 since it seems screwy now with voltage settings not being remembered and the memory clock limitations.

One other thing I've noticed is the clocks aren't always updated on the main AtiTool page.. even though they DO get changed with 3D detection.. sometimes it doesn't look like they did and I have to hover over the AtiTool icon to confirm that they did indeed switch.

[ARTOSOFT]

well.. i noticed one thing which may be of some importance to some of you. Yesterday I reinstalled my catalyst 6.8s and this time I only installed the WDMs and the DD, I forfeited the CCC.. and since I've done that AtiTool beta 15 now runs a lot better. I now have access to the 'driver tweaks' section whereas before any changes I made there would just revert back the moment I clicked my mouse elsewhere. The AA/AF settings also now work inside AtiTool.

I did not disable any of the ati services.

I did not try to OC either.. I'll wait for the beta 16 since it seems screwy now with voltage settings not being remembered and the memory clock limitations.

One other thing I've noticed is the clocks aren't always updated on the main AtiTool page.. even though they DO get changed with 3D detection.. sometimes it doesn't look like they did and I have to hover over the AtiTool icon to confirm that they did indeed switch.
What is your VGA card?

It is interesting, since many of us fail to overclock using beta 15, that we need to back to beta 14 (like me).

Regards,
Arto.

[vesper8]

i have a x1900xtx

at first I wasn't able to change my clocks at all.. and 3d detection did not work. But then I re-enabled the ati hotkey poller and ati smart services. And then I was able to change clocks again. But I couldn't make changes to the driver tweaks

it was only after I uninstalled my drivers using the catalyst uninstaller and then driver cleaner pro in safe mode.. and I reinstalled only the DD and WDM without the CCC.. that I was able t get atitool to work perfectly.

Though I haven't tried OCing it past 792.. and I don't think I will try.. there's really no need to OC my card it runs fine as it is.

the key is.. don't disable the ATI services. And if you're having trouble.. uninstall everything and reinstall without installing the CCC

[Drewster]

Ya....I dont even install CCC anymore because it causes stupid issues with ATI Tool, The beta 15 is workin great lately..my only damn problem is I cant get my memory clock speed past 792! :( regardless of voltages, o well I'll just have to wait for beta 16.

Anyways, for those of you who are having issues with ATI Tool, try not running/installing CCC, just install the driver. That has done wonders for me.

Drewster :)

[ssgwright]

i cant get my voltages to save??

anyway the memory set it to 792, then set it to something like 820 then click set clock- it should revert to 792 BUT run a 3d app and alt tab then check your mem, it should say 820 then with the 3d app running hit save and u should be good to go

[HaZe303]

I have one issue with this latest edition... I dont have ATItool in autostart mode, but whenever i do start the app it sets my clocks to 3d speeds when in Desktop. So instead of 500/600 the clocks go up to 625/725 even when im not gaming. So i have to push the "default clocks" button on ATItools screen??! Please fix this... Otherwise i love this app!!

[Plug]

Guess all those with problems will be waiting a very very long time as the updates to this program are incredibly slow.. lol

[Immacolata]

Glad to have you point out the obvious for us, Plug. Why don't you do us a favour out and play in the traffic?

Report: Running with Cat 6.8 on X1900XT

I notice that when ever I exit 3d-mode, clocks reset to default, but I must manually set a new clock when launching a 3d-app. ATI tool does not automatically change the clocksettings to my profiles selection.

There can be some crashes if you exit Ati Tool and run it again too soon.

[ssgwright]

gave up with ati tool so i just found a program and edited the x1900xtx bios, i put my voltages where i wanted em and the clocks where i wanted em and everything is perfect now :p

[Plug]

Glad to have you point out the obvious for us, Plug. Why don't you do us a favour out and play in the traffic?

Report: Running with Cat 6.8 on X1900XT

I notice that when ever I exit 3d-mode, clocks reset to default, but I must manually set a new clock when launching a 3d-app. ATI tool does not automatically change the clocksettings to my profiles selection.

There can be some crashes if you exit Ati Tool and run it again too soon.

lol,, guess you havent been reading this thread have you... as that problem is happning for everyone that installed beta 15 ROLL ON NOOBIE lol

[Plug]

gave up with ati tool so i just found a program and edited the x1900xtx bios, i put my voltages where i wanted em and the clocks where i wanted em and everything is perfect now :p

I would be very intrested to know what program you used as i tryed to use rabit the latest version and when i edited the bios and set the clocks aswell as temps then flashed my XT-X the clocks reported in CCC where default 2d clocks as requested in 3d mode hehe....

[Immacolata]

i have a x1900xtx

at first I wasn't able to change my clocks at all.. and 3d detection did not work. But then I re-enabled the ati hotkey poller and ati smart services. And then I was able to change clocks again. But I couldn't make changes to the driver tweaks

it was only after I uninstalled my drivers using the catalyst uninstaller and then driver cleaner pro in safe mode.. and I reinstalled only the DD and WDM without the CCC.. that I was able t get atitool to work perfectly.

Though I haven't tried OCing it past 792.. and I don't think I will try.. there's really no need to OC my card it runs fine as it is.

the key is.. don't disable the ATI services. And if you're having trouble.. uninstall everything and reinstall without installing the CCC

Hmm I might want to try that. I have an X1900XT so it should be identical installation. How did you manage to install without CC? Just point the driver update wizard to the directory with unpacked cat 6.8 drivers?

And Plug, I read the thread. I just didn't see anyone mentioning that. Everyone keeps blabbing about voltages, but that is not my concern. Noob back at ya.

[Drewster]

In regards to Immacolata,

All you need to do to install without CCC is when installing go to custom installation and uncheck CCC, just have the driver checked.

And btw, what are the ATI services you can or cannot enable? Im still having trouble, cant OC past 792 on my mem :( However, I have a different card than you guys (x1800xt) but its still the same problem...So anybody got any ideas to fix that? besides changing voltages, i have already tried to do that.

Any help is great, thx guys.

Drewster :cool:

[ssgwright]

i used the latest rabit editor that lets you change the default, overdrive 1 and overdrive 2 modes it also lets you change your core voltage, i just wish i could change the vddci in this editor, with the volts cranked on that i can get an extra 50-75 Mhz from my memory

[Plug]

i used the latest rabit editor that lets you change the default, overdrive 1 and overdrive 2 modes it also lets you change your core voltage, i just wish i could change the vddci in this editor, with the volts cranked on that i can get an extra 50-75 Mhz from my memory

I found out why i get problems with Rabit, for some reason you cant go over 700 on the core or 800 on the memory otherwize when you flash back your 2dclocks are your 3d clocks aswell in ccc lol

i wonder if this guy will update rabit to v2.2 with vddci included :D
and also break the limit of CCC so flashing with a say 720core and 860 memory will show up right in ccc hehe

[vesper8]

um nay.. if you goto ATI's website to download the drivers, you can download the 3-in-1 or you can download the DD, CCC and WDM seperately.. I just didn't download the CCC individual install

[coksakinol]

my graphic cards is ASUS X1800XT and b14 working well.There is a little mistakes but b14 working well.But when the b15 run, my comp. freeze.To occur vertical lines and freeze.Why????? sorry my bad english.I come from turkey.

Note : When I to use SmarTDoctor (asus graphic card overclocking program) in the same way to occur vertical lines and freeze.

[Immacolata]

um nay.. if you goto ATI's website to download the drivers, you can download the 3-in-1 or you can download the DD, CCC and WDM seperately.. I just didn't download the CCC individual install

Without the CCC, how do you adjust settings such as Display refresh rate override? For some reason the catalyst drivers thinks my screen is unable to display above 60 hz. Really irritating, so I always must make overrides in the CC display section. Once to get 85 hz on my 1360x1024 desktop and once more to make sure I get 100 Hz in OpenGL games.

How would I do that without the CCC?

[Wizard17]

Without the CCC, how do you adjust settings such as Display refresh rate override? For some reason the catalyst drivers thinks my screen is unable to display above 60 hz. Really irritating, so I always must make overrides in the CC display section. Once to get 85 hz on my 1360x1024 desktop and once more to make sure I get 100 Hz in OpenGL games.

How would I do that without the CCC?

Only for DirectX games, you can do Start-> run -> type dxdiag
On the last tab you can do a refresh-override...
Why would you have 100Hz for games anyway?

In your advanced display-settings, under the monitor-tab, see if you can uncheck the "Hide modes this monitor can't display" thing...

[Immacolata]

What EVER number, mate, it is not the point. The point is that without using override abilities of CCC my windows desktop will display at 60 Hz, no matter what I do unless I use

CCC -> Display Manager -> and set the Refresh rate to higher than 60 hz here


And for OpenGL games. How much exactly do you think fiddling with the DirectX controls changes for OpenGl games, mate?

To not play Half-Life 2 or Doom in 60 Hz, I must use CCC again

CCC -> Display Options -> 3D Refresh Override (set to 85 hz)

Now, I wonder how I will get about making those adjustments without CCC installed. Using Windows XPs own refresh rate options does not work.

[some1]

What EVER number, mate, it is not the point. The point is that without using override abilities of CCC my windows desktop will display at 60 Hz, no matter what I do unless I use

CCC -> Display Manager -> and set the Refresh rate to higher than 60 hz here


And for OpenGL games. How much exactly do you think fiddling with the DirectX controls changes for OpenGl games, mate?

To not play Half-Life 2 or Doom in 60 Hz, I must use CCC again

CCC -> Display Options -> 3D Refresh Override (set to 85 hz)

Now, I wonder how I will get about making those adjustments without CCC installed. Using Windows XPs own refresh rate options does not work.

Why don't you download and install the old control panel? You can get cats with the control panel from http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=Files&go=cat&dwn_cat_id=18

I use them because i don't like CCC much

[Immacolata]

Ill try that. Can you still manipulate all the same settings, including AI? How about the Chuckpatch for 6.8? I want to have that installed so I can play Oblivion with AA and HDR lighting.

[edit]

Ah, now you can set those values in ATI Tool Driver tweaks. Wasn't possible before, with CCC taking care of that. I guess I will try and install the chuck patch 6.8 later.

[some1]

Ill try that. Can you still manipulate all the same settings, including AI? How about the Chuckpatch for 6.8? I want to have that installed so I can play Oblivion with AA and HDR lighting.

[edit]

Ah, now you can set those values in ATI Tool Driver tweaks. Wasn't possible before, with CCC taking care of that. I guess I will try and install the chuck patch 6.8 later.

As you say, AI etc can be manipulated via ATITool, but the monitor settings you require do appear to be in the standard control panel...

[Wizard17]

Ill try that. Can you still manipulate all the same settings, including AI? How about the Chuckpatch for 6.8? I want to have that installed so I can play Oblivion with AA and HDR lighting.

[edit]

Ah, now you can set those values in ATI Tool Driver tweaks. Wasn't possible before, with CCC taking care of that. I guess I will try and install the chuck patch 6.8 later.

I said, that trick only works for DirectX games... OpenGL games are unaffected by that... Many times, you can change refresh rate from within the game itself...

If you can't change to anything above 60Hz, check you have a monitor profile installed (Check manufacturers website for one), or choose one that's a close match (for example: IIyama 17 inch, just use ANY IIyama 17" monitor profile))...
If you're on LCD, 60Hz is normal and any higher won't work anyway...

If none of the above are satisfactory, try ATI Tray Tools for that purpose... If your aim is having possibility to adjust settings, but not overclocking, get rid of ATITool and use ATI Tray Tools instead... Covers all but OCing settings...

[Raovac]

:pimp:
I use "Refreshforce" for my refresh rate adjustments. AtiTool for my tweaks, and Cat display and WDM drivers only. Nice combo for me. :D

CCC Sucx! :p

[Immacolata]

Was just around old control panel. Yech! Back to CCC. Properly configured its fast to open and rather easier to use than the old CP. But thanks for the tip.

[Celsi]

Great work, wizzard !

My recent problems with x1900xtx (did not jump to full 3D clocks in 3D mode) are gone with b15 !! THANKS !!!

I now can even overclock again.

But there is another, rather unimportant thing: I cannot underclock it now, (in 2D mode I used to run it with 400/450 @ 1,00 Volt, it wont let me set less than 500/600 which are the x1900xtx´s standard 2D clocks.
I think that has to do with ATI Tool now having no own 2D/3D switch anymore for x1900 series, but using the cards 3D-Detection ?
Or do I make something wrong and underclocking is possible ?

Celsi

Edit:
Sorry, found another, more important issue which (in its current state) makes the ATI Tool b15 useless for me:
At system startup the 2D profile is not loaded as set in the "startup" option. Fails with "registry" and with "autostart" option.
Instead the standard 3d clocks of the card (648/748) are "loaded". Actually they cannot really be loaded, because none of my 3 profiles (2D, default, 3D) does have this clocks. Must be something the card sets. When I manually load the 2D profile in ATI tool, it will work, loading the 2D profile automatically with startup does not work.

[mpeg3s]

I have a Laptop with the ATI X600 Mobility chipset.

I have the following problems without overclocking:

At default with nothing added the display driver locks my PC up.

With beta .25 B 15 the Default clock also display the wrong stuff lie 25 & 25 Mhz


2006-09-03 23:03:22 ATITool v0.25 Beta 15 started.
2006-09-03 23:03:23 D Successfully connected to driver, version 124
2006-09-03 23:03:23 D Found ATI device: 0x1002 0x3150 bus 3 dev 0
2006-09-03 23:03:23 D fbPhy: 0xD0000000, mmrPhy: 0xFEAF0000.
2006-09-03 23:03:23 D mmapped mmr to 0x1EF0000
2006-09-03 23:03:23 D BIOS at 0xC0000
2006-09-03 23:03:23 D mmapped bios to 0x1F00000
2006-09-03 23:03:24 D LM63 temp chip detection: failed (0x0)
2006-09-03 23:03:24 D F75373 temp chip detection: failed (I2C)
2006-09-03 23:03:24 D Temperature monitoring: Not detected
2006-09-03 23:03:24 D Device initialized successfully
2006-09-03 23:04:15 Application terminated.

:confused:

[YeCkeL]

So i am still the only having high cpu usage and the inability to o/c :( i will reformat soon once i get these new drives to do a 4 hd raid see if i have the issue after that.

[W1zzard]

pre-beta 16 testing for you guys:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=16851

[Wizard17]

pre-beta 16 testing for you guys:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=16851

What are the requirements? Using Cat 6.2, AHP service disabled... prebeta16 crashes... Can't get it to work... Kept my settings, thought that was the problem, but no... enabled AHP service, didn't help. Simply crashes on startup...

[Immacolata]

Try using cat 6.8. The new series are supposedly build to work with the new catalyst drivers 6.4 and up.

[anvil]

Hello, I've bought a new sapphire X1900Gt with the new PCB and the new frequencies, 512Mhz for the core and 660 Mhz for the memory.

I've some bugs with both the Catalyst Control Center (in fact there is no Overdrive in the CCC) and ATI tool 0.25 beta 15. I can't have the voltage control...

I used the 0.25 beta 14 but with this version there was no monitoring of the température and the fan speed so I tried the beta 15. With this newer version I can see the temperatures and the fan speed to, but no voltage control. I also tried the beta 16 and I have the new X1000 overclocking part but again no voltage control.

All this seems strange.... I'll try a newer installation of win XP...

[Python4]

Hello, I've bought a new sapphire X1900Gt with the new PCB and the new frequencies, 512Mhz for the core and 660 Mhz for the memory.

I've some bugs with both the Catalyst Control Center (in fact there is no Overdrive in the CCC) and ATI tool 0.25 beta 15. I can't have the voltage control...

I used the 0.25 beta 14 but with this version there was no monitoring of the température and the fan speed so I tried the beta 15. With this newer version I can see the temperatures and the fan speed to, but no voltage control. I also tried the beta 16 and I have the new X1000 overclocking part but again no voltage control.

All this seems strange.... I'll try a newer installation of win XP...

I think ANVIL we have the same new type of Sapphire 1900GT:toast: .
Because i have exactly the same problem :banghead: plus I am sure our card doesnt switch between 2D and 3D :confused: .
What oc have you reached my is now 590/840 stable and i hope we solve this voltage issue to go higher with core ;) .
My post in prebeta16 topic: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=152396&postcount=201

[anvil]

I think ANVIL we have the same new type of Sapphire 1900GT:toast: .
Because i have exactly the same problem :banghead: plus I am sure our card doesnt switch between 2D and 3D :confused: .
What oc have you reached my is now 590/840 stable and i hope we solve this voltage issue to go higher with core ;) .
My post in prebeta16 topic: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=152396&postcount=201

My card does the same for the 2D and 3D switching mode.

for the Overclock I have a problem... I can reach almost 590 Mhz for the GPU but the GDDR can't be OC at all... even 1 little Mhz is impossible... I use also the 0.25beta13pre3 version of ati tool...

[Python4]

My card does the same for the 2D and 3D switching mode.

for the Overclock I have a problem... I can reach almost 590 Mhz for the GPU but the GDDR can't be OC at all... even 1 little Mhz is impossible... I use also the 0.25beta13pre3 version of ati tool...


Funny, I have experienced other problems on the beginning - when i installed the card i was overclocking to 570/840 with no problem but in 3dmark's i went down with the score. But this was solved with clean instalation of winXP - before i had an msi6600gt so the system was a mess probably.
But i dont understand why your memory doesnt go higher, the temperature of my card newer goes higher than 66C with 590/840 stock cooling.
I hope we can somehow fing out how to adjust voltages.
I will try today the ati oveclocker for adjusting voltages but till now it looks like it doesnt work with it.

[anvil]

Funny, I have experienced other problems on the beginning - when i installed the card i was overclocking to 570/840 with no problem but in 3dmark's i went down with the score. But this was solved with clean instalation of winXP - before i had an msi6600gt so the system was a mess probably.
But i dont understand why your memory doesnt go higher, the temperature of my card newer goes higher than 66C with 590/840 stock cooling.
I hope we can somehow fing out how to adjust voltages.
I will try today the ati oveclocker for adjusting voltages but till now it looks like it doesnt work with it.


I've already tried ati overclocker... as you've said it doesn't work...

I've tried to OC my card with Rabit 2.0 RC16 and I've reached 570/740...but I think it can go higher...

Your 840 for the GDDR is completely amazing for a stock cooling and a stock voltage!

[Python4]

I've already tried ati overclocker... as you've said it doesn't work...

I've tried to OC my card with Rabit 2.0 RC16 and I've reached 570/740...but I think it can go higher...

Your 840 for the GDDR is completely amazing for a stock cooling and a stock voltage!

Yeah, the same opposite 740 is less compared to me, meaby i was too lucky with my card.
I made a long therm testing now for 5 hours my teperatures are not exceeding 66C and the fan runs on 50% by this temperature. The scores in 3dmark3,5,6 are 15780, 9912, 4394.
Config is: 9npa+, 939 athlon64@2600, 1gb ram, audigy4, 160gb hdd.
When i use ati overclocker it looks like it doesnt change the voltege it writes the new one but i am not able to clock higher. And it looks like that default voltage is 0.850 for core and 1.8 for mem, if this is true then what i know we can go up to 1.4v for core amd 2.2 for mem on default cooler. I will now wait what w1zzard does with ati tool and when it doesnt work maybe we can adjust more voltage throu flashing modified bios.

[anvil]

Yeah, the same opposite 740 is less compared to me, meaby i was too lucky with my card.
I made a long therm testing now for 5 hours my teperatures are not exceeding 66C and the fan runs on 50% by this temperature. The scores in 3dmark3,5,6 are 15780, 9912, 4394.
Config is: 9npa+, 939 athlon64@2600, 1gb ram, audigy4, 160gb hdd.
When i use ati overclocker it looks like it doesnt change the voltege it writes the new one but i am not able to clock higher. And it looks like that default voltage is 0.850 for core and 1.8 for mem, if this is true then what i know we can go up to 1.4v for core amd 2.2 for mem on default cooler. I will now wait what w1zzard does with ati tool and when it doesnt work maybe we can adjust more voltage throu flashing modified bios.

I think y'ouve got a problem... I've got an opty 165 @ 2.5 Ghz with 2Gb of G.Skill and in 3Dmark05 I make 10176 points :wtf:

look at the screen....

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/5336/05x1900gt5677382520mhzdg2.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05x1900gt5677382520mhzdg2.jpg)

I make 9300 points in 3dmark05 with stock frequencies so with your 570/840 it's impossible to do only 9900 points :wtf:

And you can see on the screen that I can OC with Rabit..

So wtf with your scores?

[Python4]

I think y'ouve got a problem... I've got an opty 165 @ 2.5 Ghz with 2Gb of G.Skill and in 3Dmark05 I make 10176 points :wtf:

look at the screen....

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/5336/05x1900gt5677382520mhzdg2.th.jpg (http://img131.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05x1900gt5677382520mhzdg2.jpg)

I make 9300 points in 3dmark05 with stock frequencies so with your 570/840 it's impossible to do only 9900 points :wtf:

And you can see on the screen that I can OC with Rabit..

So wtf with your scores?
You are right something is wrong,i was never testing on stock cloks only on the max clocks but when i test on your setings i have 9880 and on my setings 9912???? I have now used rivatuner and the results were the same. The difrence in 300 can be because of CPU but why the hell when i run 590/840 its only 100 points more???
I am using catalyst 6.8 no change in settings, have you disabled the ati services??
PS: its not rabit but rivatuner or? rabit is for bios editing?
One more thing pls post details of your bench 3dmark2005 by this 10k points, my are:
GT1- 41,2
GT2-28.4
GT3-53.2
CPU score 5521
cpu test 1 - 2.9
cpu test 2 - 4.6
Thx

[anvil]

For me all the ati services (spoiler and smart) are inactivated.

And if your score is not so high it's (I think) because of artifacts... that perhaps you can't see...

Here is another screen with the details score...You can se the score with the opty @ 2.5ghz and the card @ 550/740

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7524/sanstitrepl3.th.jpg (http://img165.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sanstitrepl3.jpg)

Of ourse I was wrong I use Rivatuner in order to OC my card.

I've doscovered today that with the fan @ 100% I can reach higher memory frequencie... so I'll try it tomorow evening 'cause my girlfriend won't like this mess (fan 100% inside):D

I'll keep you in touch.

PS: the 6.9 ati catalyst is out today, so let's try it!

[Python4]

I am not sure but when i play BF2 and hl2 -e1 on 590/840 i see no artifacts and ati tool doesn detect any too.
It looks like a problem with 3dmark because when you look on the details of the tests in cpu tests i have 1500 less score than you - conclusion diferent cpu higher clock an bigger mem this is ok it can make 300-500 points.
But the funny think is game tests GT1 i have 2fps less than you but in gt2 and gt3 more fps than you but why? If i am slover on the most easiest test an by heavy load i am faster!
So i think there is problem somehow on the first test i was running it and looking by 570/740 and 590/840 and i never go with the fps higher than 65 /this is on the beginning of the test/ and avarege is always 41.1 - 41.3fps.
So maybe we should use some diferent test to compare the ressults, any idea what test???
The new 6.9's i will try today when i come home.

[veckans]

I can only reach 547/711MHz on my Powercolor X1900GT (with the new PCB). I have tried latest ATITool ATITool_0.25_b16pre3, but i get 500p more in 3Dmark 05 with beta14. I want 590/840MHz too cause right now the OC on my card is crap.

What version of catalyst/atitool are you using?

My other specs:
AMD 3200+ @ 2,5GHz
2048MB DDR @ 833MHz

About 9500 3DMarks in 05 with this card :/

[anvil]

I have good news!!!

I didn't try the CAT 6.9 but I tried Rabit...and another software called ATIwinflash.

With ATI winflash I back up my graphic card BIOS (named r580.rom)

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/4310/1cj4.th.jpg (http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1cj4.jpg)

I open with Rabit the r580.rom file and I customize it...

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/6852/2tl9.th.jpg (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2tl9.jpg)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/2263/3yf6.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3yf6.jpg)

I lowered my frequencies just to check this was working.

After this I tried some bench...

Here are the result. You can see that the cpu score is higher than yesterday and this because yesterday plenty of process were running during the bench, so today is only bench process!

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/1411/05x1900gt587738125v2520mhzks7.th.jpg (http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=05x1900gt587738125v2520mhzks7.jpg)

I'll put some others benches after...

[Python4]

So you have flashed a modified bios or what this i didnt understand?

I have clocked my CPU to 2610 and now i reach with 590/840 app. 10200, but i stil think there is some problem that he diffrence to stock clock is app 1000 points.

The diffrence in your and my score is coused by the CPU, you have an opteron on 2700 i have only athlon on 2600 and my memory is 241mhz. Thats why i have to search for some game test or syntetic game test where the difrence in cpu is not counted into the score and then i can compare.

I installed 5.9 but no diffrence, voltage doesnt go in ati tool and in ati overclocker too.
I still dont have override in ccc and 2d/3d is not switching.

[veckans]

So you have flashed a modified bios or what this i didnt understand?

I have clocked my CPU to 2610 and now i reach with 590/840 app. 10200, but i stil think there is some problem that he diffrence to stock clock is app 1000 points.

The diffrence in your and my score is coused by the CPU, you have an opteron on 2700 i have only athlon on 2600 and my memory is 241mhz. Thats why i have to search for some game test or syntetic game test where the difrence in cpu is not counted into the score and then i can compare.

I installed 5.9 but no diffrence, voltage doesnt go in ati tool and in ati overclocker too.
I still dont have override in ccc and 2d/3d is not switching.

You won't get any overdrive unless you change the bios (if its even possible that way). These new X1900GT arent supposed to have any overdrive so thats why there arent any in CCC. However there might be voltage control in a newer version of ATITool, ATI Tray Tools or some other clocking program. Dont know if its still possible to do with this new pcb, maybe the programmers behind those programs can add any info?

[anvil]

My opty is only @^ 2.5ghz ant not 2.7Ghz... 'cause 2.7 Ghz is the max benchable for me....

I think you better try with lower frequencies...

I tried the VPGU up to 1.35v but with no good results... I think the changes in Rabit (Voltage only) doesn't happened in reality (my english is so bad excuse me for me frenchly english)...

I also test some bios in Rabit and with the "old" X1900GT ant the X1900 XT and XTX I can see that 2D and 3D are separated but with new X1900GT there is no 2D and 3D separation....

I think we got to wait that some power users test their new X1900GT to find the good tricks to overvolt the GPU and GDDR.... because with a vcore of 1.2v or 1.35v I only reach a 580/590 barrier for the core....

With rabit I can only modify the graphic card bios (changing the default frequencies only neither the voltage nor the fan speeds)...

And I agree with you veckans! Let's spent some time...

[anvil]

Veckans I have a question for you, can you send me the bios of your powercolor card... just to check the differencies beetwen the sapphire X1900GT and the powercolor one...

To back up your bios you can use ati winflash http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/281

Thank you

[veckans]

Sure, here's the bios:
http://www.freewebs.com/jesaja/Powercolor%20X1900GT2%20BIOS.rar

[anvil]

Sure, here's the bios:
http://www.freewebs.com/jesaja/Powercolor%20X1900GT2%20BIOS.rar


Really thank you! I'll tell you what are the diferencies...

[DMX]

Hello out there,

i got a question, how reliable are the readouts under "SETTINGS" of the AtiTOOL on x1xxx G-cards ?

I got the problem that the AtiTool shows me a chip reference on an x1600 SE witch isn´t the same which the vendor mentioned...

Vendor says it is an RV530 but AtiTool says it´s an RV515 an has only 4 pipes and 64Bit RAM Bus ?

How isn´t telling the truth ?!


greets
~D~

[pt]

x1600 SE


:wtf:

wich card do you have?

[DMX]

It isn´t my card, it´s the card for what id like to know how reliable the AtiTool is
It´s an x1600SE build in and Packard Bell system. See x1600 SE (http://support.packardbell.com/de/item/index.php?i=spec_video_radeonx1600se256_128bits&ppn=PB34325503) from Packard Bell.

The problem i have is that AtiTool 25b14 shows following readings under settings:

Core clock: 635.00
Memory clock: 350.00
DeviceID: 7140
Chip name: RV515
Host Interface: PCI-E
Catalyst Version: 6.7
Memory Size: 256MB
Memory Type: DDR2
Memory Bus Width: 64Bit
Active Pipelines: 4
Default GPU clock: 635.00 MHz
Default Mem Clock: 350.00 MHz
GB_PIPE_SELECT: 0x1E4

these are different from what Backard Bell described the Card. And now i wanna know which is true...


~D~

[Dippyskoodlez]

It isn´t my card, it´s the card for what id like to know how reliable the AtiTool is
It´s an x1600SE build in and Packard Bell system. See x1600 SE (http://support.packardbell.com/de/item/index.php?i=spec_video_radeonx1600se256_128bits&ppn=PB34325503) from Packard Bell.

The problem i have is that AtiTool 25b14 shows following readings under settings:

Core clock: 635.00
Memory clock: 350.00
DeviceID: 7140
Chip name: RV515
Host Interface: PCI-E
Catalyst Version: 6.7
Memory Size: 256MB
Memory Type: DDR2
Memory Bus Width: 64Bit
Active Pipelines: 4
Default GPU clock: 635.00 MHz
Default Mem Clock: 350.00 MHz
GB_PIPE_SELECT: 0x1E4

these are different from what Backard Bell described the Card. And now i wanna know which is true...


~D~


Chances are, ATitool is correct. It reads the clocks from the card itself. ;)

Memory speed looks 50mhz off, and us is reading as 64 bit instead of 128bit..

If you get *REALLY* poor performance, then chances are it is a 64 bit card and packard bells specs are way off.

If that is infact a 64bit card, I'd rather use dog crap as a GPU.

[DMX]

Okay, i tested the card with several Futuremark versions, and every time the card was loosing... so i starded investigations... With AtiTool, i found that there are only 4 active pixelpipelines, only the half Memory Bus width and that the GPU seem´d to be an urban x1300 chip.
What i´m aiming at is to proove thus here. Because if i´m right i´ll have to think about legal action against PB !

[pt]

Okay, i tested the card with several Futuremark versions, and every time the card was loosing... so i starded investigations... With AtiTool, i found that there are only 4 active pixelpipelines, only the half Memory Bus width and that the GPU seem´d to be an urban x1300 chip.
What i´m aiming at is to proove thus here. Because if i´m right i´ll have to think about legal action against PB !

take the heatsink and see wich core does it have, and sue pb to their last $ :)

[Skycaptain]

ATI Tool 0.25 beta doesn´t let me overclock. Using Cat 6.10.


When I press "Set clocks", the sliders just drop down to where they were. Any idea why?


I´m using Club3d x1800rx, the Club 3d x1800GTO it is.
I have 2 of them, in cablefree crossfire. Disabling crossfire and all cli.exe startup entries, ati hotkey poller, and ati smart doesn´t have make any difference.

Ati Tool let´s me see my cards, run 3d window, set voltage etc, just the overclock isn´t doable, any idea why is this?

Thanks for any help... :)

[Skycaptain]

My comp reboots if I close Ati tool and start it again. Every time.

[tkpenalty]

My comp reboots if I close Ati tool and start it again. Every time.

Did you uninstall the previous installation of ATI tool?

Wtf... why is this stuff happening? 0.25 is stable...for my computer at least... its better than 0.24 though.

[ARTOSOFT]

Move on guys! There are v0.25 beta16 supersede v0.25 beta15 :pimp: .

Regards,
Arto.

[propaganda]

Can't see the 3D Viewer to OC & scan for artifacts. Been happening for the last few versions that I've tried. Running a 9800Pro (old school =/ )

[pt]

Can't see the 3D Viewer to OC & scan for artifacts. Been happening for the last few versions that I've tried. Running a 9800Pro (old school =/ )

there is version 0.26 out ;)

[-=l32andon=-]

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[Kursah]

Hello,

I am wondering if W1ZZARD can answer a question, when will ATI Tool fully support the x1950 Pro's? I have a Powercolor X1950 Pro 256 Xtreme Edition, and it is amazing. But I am very limited with the tool, and I loved using it with my X850XT PE. I'd rather use it than the ATI CCC. Just curious, as I'm sure this question has been asked umpteen million times. Thanks.

[SPHERE]

Hello,

I am wondering if W1ZZARD can answer a question, when will ATI Tool fully support the x1950 Pro's? I have a Powercolor X1950 Pro 256 Xtreme Edition, and it is amazing. But I am very limited with the tool, and I loved using it with my X850XT PE. I'd rather use it than the ATI CCC. Just curious, as I'm sure this question has been asked umpteen million times. Thanks. not sure but i dont think some of the features in ati tool will work on that card because of hardware issues (what you got in ati tool i think is as good as it will ever get) I THINK.. right guys?

[caveman_1990]

I am new in ati tool. I have a 7950GT core:550, mem:700(1400)
I clicked on "Find maxium core" after it tune up to 600mhz I started to see artifacts but the core just keeps going up until 620mhz then the computer froze I can move my mouse but nothing else. The temperature just before it freeze was 56*c not high at all.
What could be the fault?

[SK-1]

I am new in ati tool. I have a 7950GT core:550, mem:700(1400)
I clicked on "Find maxium core" after it tune up to 600mhz I started to see artifacts but the core just keeps going up until 620mhz then the computer froze I can move my mouse but nothing else. The temperature just before it freeze was 56*c not high at all.
What could be the fault?

I believe you will have better luck with a utility for NVIDIA not ATI.

[caveman_1990]

Is there an auto oc'ing tool for NVIDA cards???

[LiNKiN]

Coolbits and rivatuner.

[serpa4]

I'm running ATI tools on my 1505, ATI x1400. I hit find max memory. How long does this run for? Its been a little while, about 45 minutes. The only option is abort. Next will be, if it finishes memory, find max core. How long does it run in vista? I can't figure out how to just enter clock speeds and just leave it. The only options are core: 1439 and memory: 1304. How does this relate to the speed fo the two items. I'm used to looking at mem:491 and core: 432. I'd just like to enter say 550 and 500 and try. I haven't overclocked anything in about 7 years! New to this again.