pre-Beta 16 testing (latest: pre 7)

[mascaras]

with my old x1800xt and x1900xt the scan for artifacts works great in atitool 0.24 , 0.25 and this new beta 16


regards

[JamesBong420]

Why???? the memory timings its nothing new , its same as in the other atitool releases ( always OFF or else you got a bad score)


so its not going to be like my x850.. where i can change the timings independently? i thought thats what memory timings were.. laaawwwlll.......

[mascaras]

so its not going to be like my x850.. where i can change the timings independently? i thought thats what memory timings were.. laaawwwlll.......


i dont see nothing of that , only X1000 overcloking with a option >> memory timings auto tuning (enable/Disable)


regards

[smiffy]

Hi All
When installing beta 7 and 8 and running Ati tool i get this

Ati tool.exe.Entry point not found

The procedure entry point GetProcessImageFileName W could not be located in the dynamic library PSAPI.DLL

25 beta14 is fine

Any ideas

Ta

Smiffy

[DRDNA]

i dont see nothing of that , only X1000 overcloking with a option >> memory timings auto tuning (enable/Disable)


regards

its to the left of the settings button on the front of atitool.exe

[DRDNA]

W1zzard , same thing it will not overclock my slave card...It acts like it is going to but then after entering a 3d app and then check atitool.exe only the master card is holding the clocks.Yes i do config BUS2 as well:banghead:

[W1zzard]

Hi All
When installing beta 7 and 8 and running Ati tool i get this

Ati tool.exe.Entry point not found

The procedure entry point GetProcessImageFileName W could not be located in the dynamic library PSAPI.DLL

25 beta14 is fine

Any ideas

Ta

Smiffy

which operating system are you on? does this exe (http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool.exe) fix your problem?

[ARTOSOFT]

ATITool v0.25 beta16pre8 work even better than pre7 :respect: .

I can fine tune Core and Mem to 572.40/470.57. This Core and Mem clock on my card is artifact free.

If I increase Mem 1 step from 470.57MHz, I got artifacts (something like noise) everywhere on 3D window, even before I press "Artifact Scan" button.
If I increase Core 1 step from 572.40MHz, I got artifacts (after 2 or 3 seconds) after I press "Artifact Scan" button.

The only remain problem is NVIDIA window still appear randomly every start. This NVIDIA window will not appear if I start ATITool manually (not via autostart with window).

Regards,
Arto.

[Flashnc]

Wizzard.....

i havent used ATITOOL in along time...

but as someone who has always apprectiated your generous and time consuming work that you provide us all for FREE...i have to say THANK YOU for all that you do for us overclockers...:toast:

im going to give the newest pre beta version a go on my x1900cf cards....

again and i dont think i can say it enough :respect: :respect: :respect: ;)

[Pyr0]

still haven't been able to use atitool to overclock the x1950pro memory, even a small oc results in a blank screen

the "Mem" button on the front page of atitool just tells me "Changing memory timings is not supported on this chipset."

are the voltages of the x1950pro cards locked?
is there any possibility of having an option to set the same settings as the first card (fan speed, clocks etc.) on the second card in a crossfire pair automatically?... pretty please :respect:

[binormalkilla]

I too have a X1950 Pro (Sapphire), or at least will in about 12 hours, so I am wondering if anyone has gotten the pre8 to work on this card.....I'm looking for OCing software that will support this card other than CCC.......thanks for the great support wizzard!

[Brama]

An other problem can be these:

found a new bug chained whit the first i found yesterday. I found it casually;

if someone use the functions "Load on Windows Startup" and setting a profile different then default...there are a lot of problems in performance!!!



I have the very same issue!

Did you try to start AT automatically with Windows, load the default profile, start 3DMark with an AT overclock profile switched automatically by AT 3D switching function.......how is the final score?

[BlueKnight]

I have the very same issue!

Did you try to start AT automatically with Windows, load the default profile, start 3DMark with an AT overclock profile switched automatically by AT 3D switching function.......how is the final score?

If i start ATITool whit a profile different default i made 8200 at 3DMark...if i start ATITool whit Windows and default profile i meake 9200 at 3Dmark05.

The only solution is not load profile at windows start

[mascaras]

its to the left of the settings button on the front of atitool.exe


OK thnks :D


anyone with a x1900XT can give me the memory timings ???


regards

[BlueKnight]

with my old x1800xt and x1900xt the scan for artifacts works great in atitool 0.24 , 0.25 and this new beta 16


regards


Bha...for me doesn't work...i have this whit my eyes on my x1800..so here is not possible crate a survey or a pool...but i want ask at other if Scan Artcifact work on theyr pc...

for work work on my pc...but if i set high frequncy and low voltage i see artifacts on cube and the program don't revelate this.

[smiffy]

which operating system are you on? does this exe (http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool.exe) fix your problem?

Hi Wizzard
Thanks for the help.Running Windows XP Pro.Attached exe file didn't help.
Ta for assistance
John

[spajdr]

Hello Wizzard, any hope for us Nvidiots to change fan speed on Geforce 8800GTX on future version? :)

[Sachsen Paule]

Hi W1zzard,
i have still some switchin Probs beetween Profiles on my x1900xt.
The Prob is, when i switch to lower Profile wiht less V Core on the GPU i became sometimes a Black screen. I think it can be that the Voltage is switch, but der Freq. is high.
If i switch under full load off the GPU, the problems are bigger.

can you implemtate a routine like this.

If new GPU Freq>GPU Freq
{
set new Voltage
wait 20 msec
set new GPU Freq
set fanspeed
.....
}
else
{
set new GPU Freq
wait 20 msec
set new Voltage
set fanspeed
.....
}

[Kasparz]

Why???? the memory timings its nothing new , its same as in the other atitool releases ( always OFF or else you got a bad score)

Because this is first release with timings manual control, you can tighten timings to improve score.

[ARTOSOFT]

Hi W1zzard,
i have still some switchin Probs beetween Profiles on my x1900xt.
The Prob is, when i switch to lower Profile wiht less V Core on the GPU i became sometimes a Black screen. I think it can be that the Voltage is switch, but der Freq. is high.
If i switch under full load off the GPU, the problems are bigger.

can you implemtate a routine like this.

If new GPU Freq>GPU Freq
{
set new Voltage
wait 20 msec
set new Cpu Freq
set fanspeed
.....
}
else
{
set new Cpu Freq
wait 20 msec
set new Voltage
set fanspeed
.....
}
Why you want to set CPU freq?

Regards,
Arto.

[Sachsen Paule]

Oh, sorry, thx, i have edit the orgpost.

EDIT it, the tow Erros are now fixed :p

[ARTOSOFT]

Oh, sorry, thx, i have edit the orgpost.
There are 2 "set new CPU freq"... :rolleyes: .

Regards,
Arto.

[Brama]

About memory settings in pre 8, I noted that the refresh interval changes after a switch between my 3D profile and 2D profile.

As soon as I start AT from a reboot, without loading any profile (default), I have refresh interval of 0x1E.
If I save these memory values to 2D profile, theoretically, when I load the 2D profile, also the memory values would be reloaded.

In real world, when I switch between 2D and 3D and back to 2D, I always see a refresh interval of 0x6.

Still very unstable when switching clocks and voltages: sometimes it works perfectly for half an hour with tenth of switches; sometimes at first switch from 2D to 3D, blank or green screen with PC most of the time completely locked.

[FranticFish]

In light of all the talk about memory timings dropping performance I re-did my 3dmarks and found i had lost 700 marks in 05 and 500 in 06, compared to a previous version (not sure which unfortunatly:ohwell: ). So i disabled auto tuning and found that initially it would still do 702MHz on the memory, but when i tried to load the profile it crashed horribly. I then tried redoing the OC with tuning disabled and easily reached 700Mhz+ but once again it crashed when i tried to load it. I was using pre7 when i first noticed this, but the problem has persisted in pre8.

[mascaras]

no one with a x1900xt to give the memory timings????


regards

[rippling]

any word on x1950 pro support now that catalyts 6.11 supports the card?

[cr0w]

Any possibility to add VDDCI control for X1900 AIW?

[mascaras]

catalyst 6.11 dont suport x1950xt , why???

i got same error like other drivers wich not the driver that came with VGA CD --- no hardware compatible driver found --- something like that


regards

[Brama]

catalyst 6.11 dont suport x1950xt


Really?

It seems that ATI people are a little confused after AMD acquisition or you have an unique card.

This is taken directly from Catalyst 6.11 release notes:

"AMD Desktop product family support

The Catalyst® software suite is designed to support the following AMD desktop products:

* Radeon® X1950 series
* Radeon® X1900 series"

[mascaras]

ok , i friend mine that have a x1900xt give me the timings and the memory timigs of the x1950xt like i already suspected are more relaxed :



X1950XT memory timings : 11-11-15-15-10-44-0-0-15-6-11-13-32-25-14-54-10



X1900xt memory timings :

8-8-12-12-10-35-0-0-15-6-12-13-27-21-10-45-8




ok i change the timings just a lilte and the score goes up 250 marks :D


X1950XT DEFAULT CLOKS , DEFAULT memory timings : 11-11-15-15-10-44-0-0-15-6-11-13-32-25-14-54-10 || E6400 @ 3200mhz >>> 12330 marks


X1950XT DEFAULT CLOKS , Change memory timings :10-10-14-14-10-40-0-0-15-6-10-13-30-23-12-50-9 || E6400 @ 3200mhz >>> 12580 marks


X1900xt memory timings :8-8-12-12-10-35-0-0-15-6-12-13-27-21-10-45-8



http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/4264/x1950timingsin4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



:D :D :D

regards

[GaS]

Hmm thats weird. My default timings for x1900xt are:
6-6-10-10-9-28-0-0-13-6-10-11-24-18-9-33-7

[GaS]

And I am running them at 855@1.940V, thats 0.1V more.

[smiler2505]

and the xtx overclocked timings?

[Brama]

I found another issue (bug?):

- from x1000 overclock window enable the finer steps of clocks (checking the third square from top)

- close the program

- open again the program

- the option is no more checked and if you try to load a profile saved with finer steps enabled, the video card crashes.

[coksakinol]

Hi all

25 beta14 is fine.But When installing all lather version Ati tool,
PC freeze and green vertical lines
Any ideas?
Ta
coksakinol

[binormalkilla]

Hey Wizzard, any ideas when we will have support for the X1950 Pro card? Nobody supports it for overclocking, and I can't even get Overdrive to go past 608core 705 memory......6.11 Catalyst official here

[mascaras]

Hmm thats weird. My default timings for x1900xt are:
6-6-10-10-9-28-0-0-13-6-10-11-24-18-9-33-7

i got here Two SS of 2 diferent x1900xt 256mb and the memory timings are the same in both (diferent than yours)



x1900xt 256mb from a friend

http://aycu39.webshots.com/image/7158/2004056180238569596_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004056180238569596)









X1900XT 256mb from other friend

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5175/dddsn7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2866/atitooluz4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)




BTW: with this new 6.11 drivers no need more mastercards for crossfire :D



We have just received a Catalyst driver based on the 6.11 version that is supposed to eliminate the need for a master card, effectively enabling Crossfire with two regular graphics cards. We’ve put it to the test on our Conroe 975X setup with two ASUS EAX1950XTX cards, and guess what – it works!

http://it-review.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=686&Itemid=91



regards

[Brama]

The first six values of memory data are the most significant in terms of performances.

8-8-12-12-10-35 are the relaxed values set by catalyst after a 3D fullscreen program.

If your friends get the memory data after booting, without having switched to 3D, they are normally 6-6-10-10-9-28

[SPHERE]

feature request: (in driver tweaks catagory) have options for crossfire enabling and af and aa options including crossfire exclusive aa modes and the high quality af seen in ccc if possible :)

i've tried using ccc but its pretty much a piece of crap imo that often doesn't launch and it just isn't nearly as convenient as ati tool



btw im still having problems with ati tool locking up my comp when i launch the program (locking up the vid card more specifically) it seems to only happen on my main comp and the only differences that i think might be to blame are that that my main has a dual core proc, a x-fi, and a x1900 xt as apposed to my other comp having single core, audigy 2, and a x1900gt

it also seems to only happen if i've opened up a mpeg video program (dvd player or capture viewer)


thanks w1zz :)

[Tutti-Frutti]

A little weird problem here, and I am now almost sure it is caused by atitool.
When I go to play a game like BF2, vertical sync is turned OFF after installing&running atitool. I can't get it turned on again. I have loaded driver defaults, I have vertical sync set at "always on", but that doesn't matter, when I go play, vertical sync is off :(.
The only solution is to reinstall the driver.

Anyone with the same problem here ?

Running with a Crucial X1900XTX & cata 6.11 (but problem was also with 6.10).

[BIOHazard87]

pre 8: Heres the story, sorry for its longness but it is all needed to be said IMO.


I have a nvidia GO 7900GS in my laptop, I ran it, artifacted in like 5 seconds, ran it again, artifacted in like 5 seconds, ran it again, and there were no artifacts for minutes. It also doesnt detect my fan speeds, only my core temp, which may be because there is no sensor for the fan im not sure.. but thats my story :)

[mascaras]

Hmm thats weird. My default timings for x1900xt are:
6-6-10-10-9-28-0-0-13-6-10-11-24-18-9-33-7

you chek that timings with atitool or with rabit???


The first six values of memory data are the most significant in terms of performances.

8-8-12-12-10-35 are the relaxed values set by catalyst after a 3D fullscreen program.

If your friends get the memory data after booting, without having switched to 3D, they are normally 6-6-10-10-9-28

My memory timings are always the same , after reboot or after playing


regards

[pt]

you chek that timings with atitool or with rabit???


atitool latest prebeta ;)

[Tutti-Frutti]

A little weird problem here, and I am now almost sure it is caused by atitool.
When I go to play a game like BF2, vertical sync is turned OFF after installing&running atitool. I can't get it turned on again. I have loaded driver defaults, I have vertical sync set at "always on", but that doesn't matter, when I go play, vertical sync is off :(.
The only solution is to reinstall the driver.

Anyone with the same problem here ?

Running with a Crucial X1900XTX & cata 6.11 (but problem was also with 6.10).

Sorry, I was wrong.. Stupid catalyst turn my vsync off radomly .. really strange, nothing to do with atitool.

[Brama]

you chek that timings with atitool or with rabit???

My memory timings are always the same , after reboot or after playing



Probably you have a x1900xt with 1.2 ns memories.
If not, try to flash a bios of Sapphire or ATI and in 2D you will see memory config that I wrote.
I checked with last atitool

[BooStFeD]

I found another issue (bug?):

- from x1000 overclock window enable the finer steps of clocks (checking the third square from top)

- close the program

- open again the program

- the option is no more checked and if you try to load a profile saved with finer steps enabled, the video card crashes.

I have same problem with latest beta pre 8.
Any solution to this yet?

How long should artifact scan run to determine if a overclock is stable or not?

[ARTOSOFT]

How long should artifact scan run to determine if a overclock is stable or not?
To find out max core or max mem clock (now I never use auto find max core and mem), I am using artifact scan for about 10-20 seconds. No artifact, increase core (or mem) a bit (1-2MHz). Do it one by one==> core first, after that mem (after you remembering core clock and bring it down a bit ~10MHz). If you found max mem, put back max core clock.

Using max core and mem clock, I run artifact scan for about 30-40 minutes to see whether that clock is stable or not.

Regards,
Arto.

[BooStFeD]

To find out max core or max mem clock (now I never use auto find max core and mem), I am using artifact scan for about 10-20 seconds. No artifact, increase core (or mem) a bit (1-2MHz). Do it one by one==> core first, after that mem (after you remembering core clock and bring it down a bit ~10MHz). If you found max mem, put back max core clock.

Using max core and mem clock, I run artifact scan for about 30-40 minutes to see whether that clock is stable or not.

Regards,
Arto.

Thanks for the info. :toast:

I normaly run artifact scan for about 5 minutes after finding a max core / max mem. with a specific voltage setting. I guess running artifact scan for 5 minutes is more than enough to test an overclock :D .

I have noticed with latest version pre-8 if i let artifact scan run say for about 10 minutes + i sometimes end up with a black screen and have to reset the pc. It never picks up any artifacts just after a 10+ minutes scan the screen will go black.

[TH€_BR@!N]

is the x1950xtx "find max core" prob fixed? (crash/freeze)

[pcforce]

Just tried pre-beta 8 on Windows Vista Ultimate RTM x86 - no core/memory clocks detected and no new clocks can be set, 3D window cant be shown. Driver is modified Forceware 97.27

[Drewster]

Just tried pre-beta 8 on Windows Vista Ultimate RTM x86 - no core/memory clocks detected and no new clocks can be set, 3D window cant be shown. Driver is modified Forceware 97.27

Believe ive been trying to see if ati tool or any other overclocking tool works in vista, they just dont. Its the kernal-device driver locking shit they have done with vista that is hurting a lot of software. So ya, ati does not work in Vista.

[Echelon]

Believe ive been trying to see if ati tool or any other overclocking tool works in vista, they just dont. Its the kernal-device driver locking shit they have done with vista that is hurting a lot of software. So ya, ati does not work in Vista.
my ati tool was working for a couple of times until i reboot the x86 rtm. i am still using the beta 14. but i am guessing now if i try another beta, it will do the same thing. i will test er out then.

[kyky]

why don't have one not access to the vgpu with the x1950pro?

I use atitool 0.25 beta16 pre 8

Bios Club3D X1950pro 512mo
bios club3d512 (http://membres.lycos.fr/kyky69/atitool/club3d512.bin)

[trans am]

why don't have one not access to the vgpu with the x1950pro?

I use atitool 0.25 beta16 pre 8

Bios Club3D X1950pro 512mo
bios club3d512 (http://membres.lycos.fr/kyky69/atitool/club3d512.bin)

same here. is there a plan to unlock voltage for x1950pro cards??

[rippling]

ati tool doesnt work on my x1950 pro at all , if a set core or mem seepds or move them at all , it locks up the card

[kyky]

I doesnt know if it is possible to have access to the mod vgpu with x1950pro

[trans am]

ati tool doesnt work on my x1950 pro at all , if a set core or mem seepds or move them at all , it locks up the card

You can use ati tool for your core but not the mem. If I change my mem clocks even if its 10mhz the system will lock up and I get a black screen(even if you disable mem timings in x1000 series menu) . I've been using winclock to overclock this card. Its seems like the only thing that works except the fan controller. I use ati tool for that. i set the fan speed in ati tool for 100% and set it to load on windows startup. then open winclock and key in your desired speeds(the screen will flash black for a second). then use the ati tool with winclock and you can monitor artifacts. heres a screenshot. THis is just 1 x1950 pro. Another oc tool that works great is ati tray tools.

[nicepun]

I think ATiTool 25Beta14 works fine with Core and Mem but you loose the fan control and the temp monitor. Also, I don't know if ATiTool will be able to control the vmem and vgpu at all since this is a different architecture (80nm). However, HERE (http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4190&s=7) is some stuff that you might find informative.

[trans am]

I think ATiTool 25Beta14 works fine with Core and Mem but you loose the fan control and the temp monitor. Also, I don't know if ATiTool will be able to control the vmem and vgpu at all since this is a different architecture (80nm). However, HERE (http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4190&s=7) is some stuff that you might find informative.


Hey nicepun! Its a small world. WHat are you using for crossfire overclock?

[GaS]

I have to say that this prebeta8 works just great. Is it possible to add an option like in ATT, to show framerate when in 3d mode? It would be great, but as I said, just an idea..;)

[ARTOSOFT]

I have to say that this prebeta8 works just great. Is it possible to add an option like in ATT, to show framerate when in 3d mode? It would be great, but as I said, just an idea..;)
I like that idea. Better if ATITool reported it (via plugin) to mbm or lcd-smartie. Reporting via lcd-smartie is better, so we can view the fps through LCD (or palm device running palmorb) outside the monitor.

But, if this idea somehow make ATITool unstable, we better not to have it on ATITool.

Regards,
Arto.

[nemesis.ie]

Hi W1zzard,


Feature request:

To make CrossFire OCing a little easier, would it be possible to have a "link cards" option that applies any changes made to one card to the other that has been "linked".

If this link flag was then saved in the profile, loading a profile would apply that profile to both cards.

While not as flexible as manually configuring each card, it would certainly be a lot easier.

Another option would be to save the card ID to the profile so individual profiles could be saved for each card and then have an option to load multiple profiles in order at the click of a button or during startup.

Sorry if these have been suggested before. :)

P.S. PR 8 seems to be running rather nicely. :-)

[DRDNA]

Hi W1zzard,


Feature request:

To make CrossFire OCing a little easier, would it be possible to have a "link cards" option that applies any changes made to one card to the other that has been "linked".

If this link flag was then saved in the profile, loading a profile would apply that profile to both cards.

While not as flexible as manually configuring each card, it would certainly be a lot easier.

Another option would be to save the card ID to the profile so individual profiles could be saved for each card and then have an option to load multiple profiles in order at the click of a button or during startup.

Sorry if these have been suggested before. :)

P.S. PR 8 seems to be running rather nicely. :-)

nemesis, are you even able to get the slave card to hold the overclock???? I know my slave card does not, if i set clocks on both cards then every thing on the slave shows as being overclocked but if i luanch a 3d app then go back and look at my clocks on the slave card then no more over clock, right back to 2d settings:banghead: the master card on the other hand still holding the overclock.

[nicepun]

Hey nicepun! Its a small world. WHat are you using for crossfire overclock?

I'm waiting to to put some zalman vf900 on these badboys before I sart overclocking them. I had initially bought some AC Accelero X2s but I don't like the fact the fan plugs in the same place as the stock one so I opted for the zalman vf900 instead. I'll give some results later on. It's been a busy week, I just the VF900 today so once I get time to install them I'll post some results.

[binormalkilla]

Has anyone been able to OC a X1950 Pro yet using any ATI Tool version? I'm having some major issues with all of the OCing programs, including overdrive.

[nicepun]

Has anyone been able to OC a X1950 Pro yet using any ATI Tool version? I'm having some major issues with all of the OCing programs, including overdrive.


If you already have good cooling try ATiTool25Beta14. If not, then get the latest RivaTuner 16.2 which controls the fan and monitors the temps (ATiTool25Beta14 doesn't, later versions do). Give it a go.

[binormalkilla]

What's up guys......I have a Sapphire X1950 Pro and I can't get the clocks past core594, memory 708.75 with any software....the only one that I can get the memory OCed with is Winclock. I can get the clocks to set, but the screen goes black (core) or the screen has full screen distortion (artifacting?)...except my temps are no where near their limits-62C. Also, how do you get Winclock to set the clocks at windows startup? I'm getting really frustrated.
I've tried the ATI Tool 0.25 beta 14 and I can't get the clocks over 594 either...the screen goes black after locking up for a minute or so. The memory won't OC either.
Nicepun: have you been able to OC your card(s), and if so, to what clocks?
Here is a screeny for my Winclock window and ATI Tray Tools window showing my OC at 594/715.5 MHz.....under the ATI Tray Tools 3D renderer it maxed at 72C, then when I closed the renderer the temps IMMEDIATELY dropped to 65C....I'm about to test when playing prey and I'll post the max temp..I have the temps to dump to a log file.
Ok my graphics went totally beserk when I hit only 71C, I thought that this card could handle more......this was after around 10 minutes of playing prey at clocks: 594/715.5.....guess I will have to go with 594/715.5 until I get the Zalman VF900 and ramsinks. I have arctic 5 on the core, and I bet that the core can go higher without artifacting, so anyone have any ideas? Any of the ATI Tool versions?
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6774/winclockandatitraytoolork0.png

[r350]

I've got a strange problem with the pre 8. I've created a 2D profile for my X1900XTX with 300/300 Mhz and 0,995v for GPU. And I am receiving pixel faults in .jpg pictures! (the blue dot in the picture below) How can that be? In 3D the card works stable.

http://home.arcor.de/cupra580/forumdeluxx/X1000overclocking.jpg

[coksakinol]

Hi all

25 beta14 is fine.But When installing all lather version Ati tool,
PC freeze and green vertical lines
Any ideas?
Ta
coksakinol

My problem to continue.Any ideas pleasee?

[Spacehead]

Would you like to share different bios - images from these X1950 Pro cards? I don't know if it helps overclocking or developing ATITool.

I currently use Rivatuner 2.0 RC 16.2 to OC my card. I have watercooling, so temps don't raise above 40 c @ 100% load.

ATITool seems to lock system when overclocking Mem, and it seems also little unstable when clocking the core. But it is useful for artifact scanning. RV570 core needs more volts, maybe 1.4V would be great (core @ 800 Mhz would be superfast)

I have managed to get 654Mhz/1.47Ghz stable with Rivatuner. Now testing artifacts with ATITool @ 668/1.5

[Concorde Rules]

I've been doing some testing with my X1900XTX.

Timings before 3D Mark 2005: 6-6-10-10-9-28-0-0-13-6-10-11-24-18-9-33-7
Timings after 3D Mark 2005: 6-6-10-10-9-28-0-0-13-6-10-11-24-18-9-33-7

Yes, its the same.

Once i've got my core clocked more with the 2nd core voltage I will go onto find my best clocks at those timings and possibly lower them :D

[jasoncoder]

Under Vista x64 Ultimate with an X850 XT PE AGP the driver installs (no kernel mode craptastic warning) and shows in the system tray.

When I try to run it I get an error message about a missing driver, that one is needed to comm with the device driver. It also suggests that if I just upgraded from an earlier version (which I had) that I may want to reboot and reinstall. Well I did that as well with the same result.

It no workie. Any ideas or is this a current limitation?

[Pyr0]

until a vista compatible version of ati tool is available, each time you reboot vista x64 you can press f8 and select the option to disable the enforcement of driver signing

[binormalkilla]

Hey Wizzard: any ideas when voltage adjustments will be availible for the RV570 core in the X1950 Pros? Nobody else has this option, I've been told this is due to the digital PCB. Please, I want to overclock more!
BTW I haven't been able to get any of the ATI Tools versions to OC past 594 MHz core, and can't OC the memory at all.....I have read that the memory is rated at 800 MHz, but is clocked at 700 MHz stock.

[Demos_sav]

Hey Wizzard: any ideas when voltage adjustments will be availible for the RV570 core in the X1950 Pros? Nobody else has this option, I've been told this is due to the digital PCB. Please, I want to overclock more!
BTW I haven't been able to get any of the ATI Tools versions to OC past 594 MHz core, and can't OC the memory at all.....I have read that the memory is rated at 800 MHz, but is clocked at 700 MHz stock.

Have you disabled overdrive?

[trans am]

What's up guys......I have a Sapphire X1950 Pro and I can't get the clocks past core594, memory 708.75 with any software....the only one that I can get the memory OCed with is Winclock. I can get the clocks to set, but the screen goes black (core) or the screen has full screen distortion (artifacting?)...except my temps are no where near their limits-62C. Also, how do you get Winclock to set the clocks at windows startup? I'm getting really frustrated.
I've tried the ATI Tool 0.25 beta 14 and I can't get the clocks over 594 either...the screen goes black after locking up for a minute or so. The memory won't OC either.
Nicepun: have you been able to OC your card(s), and if so, to what clocks?
Here is a screeny for my Winclock window and ATI Tray Tools window showing my OC at 594/715.5 MHz.....under the ATI Tray Tools 3D renderer it maxed at 72C, then when I closed the renderer the temps IMMEDIATELY dropped to 65C....I'm about to test when playing prey and I'll post the max temp..I have the temps to dump to a log file.
Ok my graphics went totally beserk when I hit only 71C, I thought that this card could handle more......this was after around 10 minutes of playing prey at clocks: 594/715.5.....guess I will have to go with 594/715.5 until I get the Zalman VF900 and ramsinks. I have arctic 5 on the core, and I bet that the core can go higher without artifacting, so anyone have any ideas? Any of the ATI Tool versions?
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6774/winclockandatitraytoolork0.png

1st off don't use atitray tools. it will misread your memory clocks. Plus from your screens it looks like you are running atitray tools, ati tool, and winclock. probably using too many at the same time and they are screwing up your system.

first thing I would do is close all 3d overclock utilities.

open ati tool beta. 0.25 #16 (I lost count) I think im on the latest one. set your fans at 100% and disable the mem timings auto tuning setting in x1000 series settings.
then open winclock and set your clocks. most cores will do 641 on stock voltage and air cooling. set ram at 750 and see if it takes it. then click on the ati tool window and you should see the clocks change in ati tool as well (after setting them in winclock) then use the artifact scanner and try increasing your mem some more and repeat. 1 of my x1950 pro mem craps out at 769 the other at 830 so your results may vary. mine is asus and it uses samsung 14suffix (700mhz) check your ram ics. i know nicepun has sapphire and his suffix 12 (800mhz)
I took a screen to prove this actually works. FOr those of you that think winclock doesn't oc the memory then heres another screen with both gpu cores at the same frequency and mem is the only thing I changed.
648/702
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4709&stc=1&d=1164933459

648/823
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4708&d=1164931389


@wizzard
You guys know winclock works so is it possible to configure ati tool to work with x1950 pro as well?

[Spacehead]

1st off don't use atitray tools. it will misread your memory clocks. Plus from your screens it looks like you are running atitray tools, ati tool, and winclock. probably using too many at the same time and they are screwing up your system.

first thing I would do is close all 3d overclock utilities.

open ati tool beta. 0.25 #16 (I lost count) I think im on the latest one. set your fans at 100% and disable the mem timings auto tuning setting in x1000 series settings.
then open winclock and set your clocks. most cores will do 641 on stock voltage and air cooling. set ram at 750 and see if it takes it. then click on the ati tool window and you should see the clocks change in ati tool as well (after setting them in winclock) then use the artifact scanner and try increasing your mem some more and repeat. 1 of my x1950 pro mem craps out at 769 the other at 830 so your results may vary. mine is asus and it uses samsung 14suffix (700mhz) check your ram ics. i know nicepun has sapphire and his suffix 12 (800mhz)
I took a screen to prove this actually works. FOr those of you that think winclock doesn't oc the memory then heres another screen with both gpu cores at the same frequency and mem is the only thing I changed.
648/702
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4709&stc=1&d=1164933459

648/823
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4708&d=1164931389


@wizzard
You guys know winclock works so is it possible to configure ati tool to work with x1950 pro as well?

I tried exactly what you said.
+I have ATI Hotkey Poller disabled
+I have VPU recover ON

I can set both clocks. But when I start ATITool artifact scanning , it gives just an black screen after ~1 minute , this happens when both core and mem are overclocked.

Edit: no crash if mem is not set too high

[binormalkilla]

Ok how do you disable overdrive? By reinstalling the driver and never unlocking Overdrive? I know that disabling the ATI Hotkey Poller service will inadvertently disable Overdrive, but this will leave you will stock 2d voltages, as I have read that this service controls the 2d/3d clock switching as well as the 2s/3d voltage switching.....BTW I'm on the Xtremesystems forum with you (I assume it's you), so you can post there too....I posted on the "ASUS X1950 Pro in the house" thread.
BTW I wasn't using ATI Tray tools to OC, I only was showing the difference in the readings of the memory. I use the program for the screenshots, hotkeys, tray temps, etc.
Also, I am OCing using Overdrive at the moment, and I can get the memory clocks to stick with it. I am now going to set my clocks back to stock (they were at 594 and 709 without artifacting when I scanned using the ATI Tray Tools scanner) and I will
Oh yea I have the VF900 ordered now, can't wait!
Ok I tried it with the core only first and BOOM black screen on this measly clock:
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2150/untitled1au8.jpg
So I'm going to try setting the clocks with Overdrive and keep the Hotkey Poller enabled (so I can keep my 3d voltage) and scan for artifacts using ATI Tools....I'll get back with you guys when I get the VF900 installed.
Meanwhile PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE Wizzard can we have some voltage adjustments! I would love you platonically forever!

[Millennium]

Memory timings (in Mem dialogue) don't apply to system when profiles (within which memory timings info are stored) are loaded at startup, though the settings - startup dialogue states 'load profile'. This happens in pre-8.

by the way, I posted about this in another thread, but I wanted to make sure it get fixed, as the difference between stock and optimised timings is not negligable! Obviously we would have expected manufacturers to tweak these timings before release, but in the current situation, we can do it ourselves so it's worth looking into. Wizzard thanks for ATITool please add this startup feature!

[Spacehead]

http://spacehead.foppa.fi/X1950PRO/x1950641atitoolstable.jpg

see previous posts for my steps. this is not highest stable OC, just tested. For some reason FEAR crashes at lower gpu clocks. Maybe the artifact scanner should be made for stronger shader load.


I have Club3DX1950Pro watercooled with Swiftech MCW60-B, Hynix 1.4ns chips

[Spacehead]

So I'm going to try setting the clocks with Overdrive and keep the Hotkey Poller enabled (so I can keep my 3d voltage) and scan for artifacts using ATI Tools....I'll get back with you guys when I get the VF900 installed.
Meanwhile PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE Wizzard can we have some voltage adjustments!

Yeah, it's me allright :D

What I have measured, this card does not have vgpu states for 2D/3D modes , it just idles, my card is 34 degrees C then.

[trans am]

Ok how do you disable overdrive? By reinstalling the driver and never unlocking Overdrive? I know that disabling the ATI Hotkey Poller service will inadvertently disable Overdrive, but this will leave you will stock 2d voltages, as I have read that this service controls the 2d/3d clock switching as well as the 2s/3d voltage switching.....BTW I'm on the Xtremesystems forum with you (I assume it's you), so you can post there too....I posted on the "ASUS X1950 Pro in the house" thread.
BTW I wasn't using ATI Tray tools to OC, I only was showing the difference in the readings of the memory. I use the program for the screenshots, hotkeys, tray temps, etc.
Also, I am OCing using Overdrive at the moment, and I can get the memory clocks to stick with it. I am now going to set my clocks back to stock (they were at 594 and 709 without artifacting when I scanned using the ATI Tray Tools scanner) and I will
Oh yea I have the VF900 ordered now, can't wait!
Ok I tried it with the core only first and BOOM black screen on this measly clock:
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/2150/untitled1au8.jpg
So I'm going to try setting the clocks with Overdrive and keep the Hotkey Poller enabled (so I can keep my 3d voltage) and scan for artifacts using ATI Tools....I'll get back with you guys when I get the VF900 installed.
Meanwhile PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE Wizzard can we have some voltage adjustments! I would love you platonically forever!

Yes, its me from xs. funny how you me, spacehead and nicepun(all xs members) are all in here trying to find a fix for these damn cards. I should have my p5b deluxe and my crossfire bridges from ati tonight. I'm going to swap boards and I 'll finally be able to run these in crossfire. The results should be interesting because I am attempting to run 2 x1950 pros in crossfire on a p965 board and beta catalyst 6.12. I'll post on xs

[Spacehead]

Yes, its me from xs. funny how you me, spacehead and nicepun(all xs members) are all in here trying to find a fix for these damn cards. I should have my p5b deluxe and my crossfire bridges from ati tonight. I'm going to swap boards and I 'll finally be able to run these in crossfire. The results should be interesting because I am attempting to run 2 x1950 pros in crossfire on a p965 board and beta catalyst 6.12. I'll post on xs

Yeah, we all seem to try to find all routes to heaven :D

When I bought this card, I was in an impression that this card would be the best bang for the buck(or euro ;) ) But I horribly forgot that I love overclocking, these cards sadly won't satisfy my needs for now, but at least they are a bit faster than my wrecked (and maybe killed) Nvidia 6800GS (ran it 600/1200 @ 1.67V (~3300, ~7100, ~15600, ~27000, 06, 05, 03, 2001).

[binormalkilla]

I have read that the issue with the core not OCing well is because of the VRMs overheating. Here:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/forums/showthread.php?t=8522&page=14&pp=10
This guy made a heatsink for the VRMs, the only thing is that he had the issue with an aftermarket cooler, and mine is still stock.

[Spacehead]

I have read that the issue with the core not OCing well is because of the VRMs overheating. Here:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/forums/showthread.php?t=8522&page=14&pp=10
This guy made a heatsink for the VRMs, the only thing is that he had the issue with an aftermarket cooler, and mine is still stock.

I installed memory heatsinks to those. And at same shit VRMs heatspreader took off. Now it is glued with superglue and I have some AS5 between there, dunno if it is ok... Should buy some real thermal glue

[binormalkilla]

I installed memory heatsinks to those. And at same shit VRMs heatspreader took off. Now it is glued with superglue and I have some AS5 between there, dunno if it is ok... Should buy some real thermal glue

Awesome dude.....could you by any chance post some pics? Also, did you have to mod the heatsinks any? I.e. are the RAM modules the same siize as th VRMs?

[Spacehead]

Awesome dude.....could you by any chance post some pics? Also, did you have to mod the heatsinks any? I.e. are the RAM modules the same siize as th VRMs?

Actually, those VRMs are quite a bit smaller than mem chips. I'll think about if I take some pictures.

[smiffy]

Hi All
When installing beta 7 and 8 and running Ati tool i get this

Ati tool.exe.Entry point not found

The procedure entry point GetProcessImageFileName W could not be located in the dynamic library PSAPI.DLL

25 beta14 is fine

Any ideas

Ta

Smiffy

Hi Wizzard

Re-installed XP,works fine now

Smiffy

[binormalkilla]

I installed memory heatsinks to those. And at same shit VRMs heatspreader took off. Now it is glued with superglue and I have some AS5 between there, dunno if it is ok... Should buy some real thermal glue

Ok I'm picking up my Zalman fan tonight the f$%king UPS man didn't even come to my apartment, or even leave an infonotice.......I think that he took a early lunch and said screw my package. Anyhow I'll have it at 8:00 Central American time, so I'll post my results. I am also ordering my Swiftech heatsinks for the VRMs today, so maybe I will be able to OC the core some more..

[oxolotl]

Hi all,i have just registered with the forums and this is first real quest into overclocking.

I have a connect 3d x1900xt 256mb

I was recently using the 0.25 beta 14 and was having some issues with that..despite loading the profile for the clocked card it would not have a great impact on the fps when showing the 3d in the tool (like 200 fps) However if i ran 3dmark06 and ran the first test, it would suddenly shoot up to about 650 fps next time i opened it. Highest 3dmark06 i managed was approx 5900

Anyhoo,

Now i'm trying out this beta version and i can get it to overclock to roughly 688 core, 792 mem so far. I'm a little confused how to operate it, am i right in assuming that it now can run fine with all the ati stuff running, and it just forces 3D overclock? Is it best to 'detect 3d' and run my overclocked settings then, or load them with windows?

Now with this all working, 3d view gives me somewhere around 350 fps, and 3dmark06 approximately 5000 score with very low frame rates on the first 2 tests.

As i am somewhat new to this, i have not tried to play around with the voltages too much, but i notice now that the memory voltages are at 1.8 in ati tool, whereas from looking online people clame the default voltages when 3d apps are running should be somewhere around 2.1? Is this where i am going wrong? Any help would be appreciated.

(Edit) As an update to this, after overclocking a little more with voltages tweaked, 3dview shows around 350-400 fps. i ran 3dmark06 got approx 5400...after this i run 3dview in atitool again and i'm getting around 630 average and 3dmark score goes up to 5723.

Program seems very good to use however and i hope i can sort these problems out as i am sure i shouldn't be getting such low scores with an overclocked x1900xt, unless the 256MB memory is having a big effect?

(Edit) So after further testing, it does appear to be a strange problem

I load up my profile, i get slow fps in 3d view .i can then do 'scan for artifacts' which doubles fps..load oblivion, get roughly 20-22 fps where i saved...

close oblivion, open 3d view...get 630 fps average, load oblivion and i get 35-36 fps where i am saved..Very odd.

[kyky]

Traduction Babel Fish Aide


I acquired the gecube x1950pro 512mo, with atitool I do not have an indication of temperature.

http://membres.lycos.fr/kyky69/atitool/atitools..JPG

bios Gecube x1950pro 512mo
gecubex1950pro.bin (http://membres.lycos.fr/kyky69/atitool/gecubex1950pro.bin)

I have also the bios MSI and CLUB3D to have Vgpu (if it is possible)
club3d X1950pro 512.bin (http://membres.lycos.fr/kyky69/atitool/club3d512.bin)
Msi X1950pro 512.bin (http://membres.lycos.fr/kyky69/atitool/Msi%20x1950pro512mo.bin)

[W1zzard]

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/436

atitool 0.26