pre-Beta 16 testing (latest: pre 7)

[W1zzard]

ok guys .. i think i made a good step towards better x1k overclocking ..

http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.25_b16pre1.exe

please give it a try - note the new x1k overclocking options .. play with them .. post your feedback

users of non x1k cards do not need to bother - no changes for you

UPDATED VERSION

http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.25b16pre6.exe

ANOTHER UPDATE

http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.25_b16pre3.exe

NEW BUILD

http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.25b16pre5.exe

UPDATE

http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.25b16pre6.exe

UPDATE
http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.25b16pre7.exe

UPDATE
http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.25b16pre8.exe

[KennyT772]

insticrash

3200+/dfi ultrad/1800xt

i also reccomend editing the installer from repair to upgrade.

it installed fine and i tried uninstalling/reinstalling
when i run it my screen will flicker (such as changing refresh rates or res) and then i get a program crash error.

[W1zzard]

bug found and fixed.. new build uploaded at same link

[gR3iF]

instant grey skin vpu recover
then the cpu was working again

[Gnerma]

Thanks for the update w1zzard. I can overclock my card with this build which means its a marked improvement :laugh:

So about this "Disable memory timings auto-tuning" checkbox under X1000 overclocking. When does ATITool adjust the memory timings and to what? Did older betas do this?

[W1zzard]

file updated again .. now atitool will only switch to 3d mode once per session and not multiple times .. i think this caused the vpu recover ..

gnerma the autotune is defined by the vga bios .. depending on the memory clock the timings are altered .. when the option is checked the timings are never changed when settings clocks

[KennyT772]

on the second one i got this...

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/7619/artifactsrh8.th.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=artifactsrh8.jpg)

trying third now

[W1zzard]

that display corruption is a known issue .. it goes away when that portion of the screen is redrawn. i'm working on it but i dont have the slightest idea whats actually causing it

[SPHERE]

just installed it and launched it

it locked up my comp and turned the screen green i had to reboot

x1900xt custom bios set to 625 core 775 mem in both cat profiles under rabit win xp pro sp2 nf4 mobo

edit: humm i think it was locked up hold on ill check to see if it just needed to be refreshed

[KennyT772]

same issue with the third leading to a video crash. but that could also be me switching profiles via g15 macro.

[SPHERE]

update: i launched it again and it started with a minor bit of artifacting that quickly went away but after closing and launchng it for the third time it did the same thing as the first time except this time with a white screen

[pt]

just installed it and my screen gone black, but went back to normal after a couple of seconds, the BETA 15 worked fine for me, and this one too
btw, i got the same black screen in the BETA15

and how it is possible that my card is sucking out 24A if my power supply on the 12v lines only has 17A
http://img.techpowerup.org/060907/amp.jpg

[W1zzard]

nobody knows which line that actually is for 24A .. probably vcore which is like 1.3V

uploaded another build which may fix the 2d display corruption from setting clocks

[pt]

ok, i tought t was the 12v lines
i'm getting a new one tomorrow for better stability when overclocking the CPU:)
Wich are the max temps for this card btw?

[KennyT772]

well at 700/900 1.4vcore 2v vddc and vddq mine draws 35.5amp. most reported powerdraw by x1800xts is 120w. 35.5amp times 3.3v equals 117..could that be it?

[W1zzard]

possible .. but not sure since the amperes are for one voltage only .. and there is other stuff like memory and some extra voltages

[Mekrel]

I already know what my card is capable of due to having to use previous betas by just uping up the clocks myself.

However, with each new beta - I do try and test out the find max buttons again to test for you w1zzard.

Firsty, with the old more compatible method turned off, I get the same X1000 series problem. The cube artifacts but ATi does not react to them.

I then turned on the old more compatible method, and the scanner kept going and going and I never got any artifacts. I was getting upto 670mhz on default volts when before 625 was only achievable with alot more volts. The computer eventually froze.

So artifact scanning still quite not right. Thanks for the release.

Edit: My sig has disappeared, hmm but this is with an X1800XL.

[Drewster]

thx for the new version W1izz,

But in this version, im not sure this issue has been addressed yet but...

whenever I make an overclock profile then load up a game it goes to 695 core, 792 memory...yet I never made a profile for those clock speeds, mine were actually higher than that, yet thats still higher than my default speeds....however I just want to let you know its changing clock speeds on me, or could that be switching to 2d clocks when I minimize my game?

But then again...when I play games in windows mode the clock speeds stay right where I want them...I play CS:S in windows Mode, clock speeds are at the correct speeds, but when I play something like BF2 or Bf2142(which I dont run in windows mode) It seems that when I minimize the clocks go down to that 695/792..so Im not sure whats goin on.

I have an X1800XT, default 600/800 core/mem

Any feedback on this would be great,

Thanks

[robs03silvergts]

Hey wizzard, has that problem with the downclocking when viewing an AVI or MPEG been fixed yet?

It only happens on drivers newer than Cat 6.3.

[Plug]

WIzzard i know your doing a great job but man without the XK1 lines white papers your never going to quite figure it out...

im still mistified that no ones cards have blown up yet lol

without the white papers from ATI your just fighting a looseing battle man :/

[Drewster]

Hey guys, I was also wondering if anyone was getting a strange problem whenever they rebooted there machine with beta 16...

It keeps telling me every time I start up and boot into windows "Your Video Card has changed etc..." and it resets my settings even tho I have not touched my graphics card.

Any help on this would be great

Thanks,

Drewster

[gR3iF]

hey w1zz starting ati tool works now for me at least the switch to 3d clocks will make some deeper tests when iam back from school

[gR3iF]

i tried find max core this appears:
http://img.techpowerup.org/060908/Capture005.jpg


2006-09-08 07:22:54 Find Max Core started...
2006-09-08 07:23:01 Artifacts detected after 00:00.00. 11364 pixels don't match.
2006-09-08 07:23:01 Clocks set to: 614.25 / 720.00
2006-09-08 07:23:02 Artifacts detected after 00:01.01. 11319 pixels don't match.
2006-09-08 07:23:02 Clocks set to: 607.50 / 720.00
2006-09-08 07:23:03 Scan aborted. Total runtime: 9 seconds. Artifact-free: 1 seconds. Core: 614.00 MHz Memory: 720.00 MHz
2006-09-08 07:23:04 Application terminated.


and there was an error by ati tool saying something like image ... dont match plz report this bug, but i couldnt read it exactly

[ARTOSOFT]

W1zzard,

Pre-beta 16 work great on my x1600pro. Now it allow me to overclock GPU and Mem. I have try one game, and 2D/3D detection work great, switching default to my overclock profile also work.

I am a bit shock that first I only can overclock memory but GPU. Even GPU is downclock everytime I hit set clock (from 499.50MHz to 400MHz). This problem disappear after reboot PC.

Still, extended display (IIRC for NVIDIA card panel) problem exist (not always, 50%-50% chance, alternate every boot-up WinXP).

Fan speed, I am not sure, I flash my set of temp->fan speed to VGA Card BIOS to solve it.

Regards,
Arto.
Edit: Yes, for the extended display (IIRC for NVIDIA card panel), problem exist in alternate. Turn off WinXP, booting up WinXP, problem exist, turn off WinXp, booting up WinXP, it is ok.

[ARTOSOFT]

hey w1zz starting ati tool works now for me at least the switch to 3d clocks will make some deeper tests when iam back from school
Just my curiosity, what card are you using?

Regards,
Arto.

[W1zzard]

WIzzard i know your doing a great job but man without the XK1 lines white papers your never going to quite figure it out...

im still mistified that no ones cards have blown up yet lol

without the white papers from ATI your just fighting a looseing battle man :/

thanks for your confidence .. you are of course free to use any other oc tools ..

also i could say now "i cant get it to work" and stop developing atitool? if i did that in the first place atitool wouldnt even exist.

suggestion: buy an nvidia card where overclocking works better

[W1zzard]

thx for the new version W1izz,

But in this version, im not sure this issue has been addressed yet but...

whenever I make an overclock profile then load up a game it goes to 695 core, 792 memory...yet I never made a profile for those clock speeds, mine were actually higher than that, yet thats still higher than my default speeds....however I just want to let you know its changing clock speeds on me, or could that be switching to 2d clocks when I minimize my game?

But then again...when I play games in windows mode the clock speeds stay right where I want them...I play CS:S in windows Mode, clock speeds are at the correct speeds, but when I play something like BF2 or Bf2142(which I dont run in windows mode) It seems that when I minimize the clocks go down to that 695/792..so Im not sure whats goin on.

I have an X1800XT, default 600/800 core/mem

Any feedback on this would be great,

Thanks

do you have overclocking settings in ccc ?

[Arthalen]

W1zzard: Just wanted to say keep up the great work chap.

Currently, cannot get ATI Tool to work correctly on my X1900GT with either the stable release or Beta 15/15 (mixture of problems, really).

Will try pre-beta 16 tonight and see how it goes, and give you a test report.

[Immacolata]

I am testing now w pre-16 I just downloaded. I noticed that hitting Default button a few seconds after ATItool loaded made the PC crash.

The 3d detection switching doesn't seem to work. I must manually load profiles when going from 2d to 3d. Is there a way to store AA and AF settings in a profile?

Sorry forgot that:

X1900XT with Catalyst 6.8 (chuck patch) on XP.

It seems to happen if I change clock settings with short intervals. For example, exiting a game means the clock resets to default 500/600. I then select a new clock setting, 650 and press enter. Freeze. Seems not to be anything to do with the speed. If I load my XTs rated "3d speed" of 625/725 the system unless I load this profile as the very first thing upon the launch of ATI Tool. Waiting about 10 seconds between any change seems to avoid the crash.

I tried setting core/memory to 650/750 with the auto tuning of memory disabled. Crash. I am not going to mess around with this release any more for the time being. I fear I might fry my card if I keep going at it :)

[W1zzard]

please include which card are you using

[Immacolata]

nobody knows which line that actually is for 24A .. probably vcore which is like 1.3V

uploaded another build which may fix the 2d display corruption from setting clocks

Dont forget its 24A at 1.3 v. Not even 40 watts. The 12V rail rated for 18A means 216 watts.

Interesting. I couldn't help myself from trying the Find Max Mem and Find Max Core features. The Find Max Mem made it to 783 mhz without incident and I stopped it myself. This was with core set at 2d default of 599 Mhz. I had disabled the memory timing adjustments even. Only new thing I noticed was a constant flickering, horizontal blue artifacts zipped across the screen at each increase in speed of the memory. But they disappeared as soon as the test stopped changing speed of the memory.

But when I tried it for the core, I had a crash (BSOD in the ati2dvag.dll module) rather quickly, even before the first heatup phase of 30 seconds. I ran these tests with the slider to the slow and compatible switching between 2d and 3d mode.

[W1zzard]

the little artifacts are normal .. as long as they go away which they should now

the problem with find max seems to be that the step size is rather big .. working on that at the moment

[Immacolata]

Perhaps your solution will also prevent the system from crashing when you switch clocks too fast. Awaiting with bated breath.:toast:

[PiNoY]

the beta 15s didn't like my x1900GT

would let me clock the mem higher than 720 :(

these 16s seems great :)

finally got 648/1602 stable and artifact free with 1.375v and 2.135v

the 2D/3D switching is working perfectly

very please :)

keep up the good work

once my artic cooler arrives, i'll be pushing it much harder :)

btw your program claims i'm drawing 30A

[Immacolata]

You getting the Accelero X2?

Good luck. It it is a very efficient cooler wrapped in a piece of shit design. The cooler blows hot air right onto your motherboard. Unless you have super-good extra case cooling or a BTX design, you will notice an increased temp of your case, your cpu. Everything.

[schplade]

hey, i can't get this to overclock with my x1900gt, is there still something i have to disable with ati control panel or anything else i have to do except install it?

as for the problem, basically when i try to find max clock, it starts running then starts to artifact all over the screen and then it will restart or sometimes vpu recover might fix it.

[robs03silvergts]

the little artifacts are normal .. as long as they go away which they should now

the problem with find max seems to be that the step size is rather big .. working on that at the moment


Ok since my question was completely ignored I will ask again. Is the downclocking and locking up issue corrected when viewing an AVI or MPEG? This problem has been ever since anything newer than the 6.3's from ATI.

[Drewster]

do you have overclocking settings in ccc ?

Thanks for your response W1zz, I am using catalyst 6.8 driver, however I do not install CCC when installing the driver. I use custom installation and uncheck CCC, so that should not be an issue.

Still, when I play a game where I have to minimize (BF2, BF2142) I check ATI and I have lower clock speeds than what my profile is. And There also seems to be the issue of when I restart my computer ATI Tool will pop up saying that the video card has changed and I lose my settings, and it gives me some wierd settings, and it seems the only way to temporarily fix it is by reinstalling beta 16.

Thx for the feedback W1zz, keep up the good work.

Drewster

[PiNoY]

You getting the Accelero X2?

Good luck. It it is a very efficient cooler wrapped in a piece of shit design. The cooler blows hot air right onto your motherboard. Unless you have super-good extra case cooling or a BTX design, you will notice an increased temp of your case, your cpu. Everything.

i'm pretty sure it blows the air over the 7 heatsinks that cover the voltage regulators... just like how the stock cooling is doing it now...:S

i'd love to keep my stock cooler but its just damn too loud @ 100%

[robs03silvergts]

i'm pretty sure it blows the air over the 7 heatsinks that cover the voltage regulators... just like how the stock cooling is doing it now...:S

i'd love to keep my stock cooler but its just damn too loud @ 100%


Do the X2, I have one and its awsome. Temps inside my case stayed the exact same BTW.

The video card temps lowered near 20 deg c in load temps.

[Urlyin]

Ok since my question was completely ignored I will ask again. Is the downclocking and locking up issue corrected when viewing an AVI or MPEG? This problem has been ever since anything newer than the 6.3's from ATI.

Perhaps you could test it and be the first to report on whether it works or not ... it's just been released and it is beta ... :)

[robs03silvergts]

Perhaps you could test it and be the first to report on whether it works or not ... it's just been released and it is beta ... :)

After seeing all the other problems with it no thanks. LOL.

[Urlyin]

After seeing all the other problems with it no thanks. LOL.

Well I ran it some lastnight and it is much better than beta 15, which worked using the ATI driver... beta 16 is much more stable with cats higher than 6.3

[Steevo]

85C core temp last night @ 765Mhz 1.475 vcore


Then it started artifacting, I wasn't watching it. Runs stable at 1.465 750Mhz stock cooling 6.7 cats. But i checked the memory timings option to get the extra speed.

[W1zzard]

Ok since my question was completely ignored I will ask again. Is the downclocking and locking up issue corrected when viewing an AVI or MPEG? This problem has been ever since anything newer than the 6.3's from ATI.

i havent tried .. you give it a try and let us know :)

[SPHERE]

hey w1zz what exactly have you changed in this verson so far?

[robs03silvergts]

Well I ran it some lastnight and it is much better than beta 15, which worked using the ATI driver... beta 16 is much more stable with cats higher than 6.3

What about the AVI or MPEG? damn mabey I have to try it myself. LOL.

[Urlyin]

What about the AVI or MPEG? damn mabey I have to try it myself. LOL.

LOL ... your in the spot light now :toast: Will be waiting intently for your results :rockout:
GO rob ... Go rob ..

[ElAguila]

What about the AVI or MPEG? damn mabey I have to try it myself. LOL.

I just finished adding some hard drives and replacing my old ocz ps520 with a pc cooling 610W 49A single rail psu. I will dl this when I get home and see if the issue is still there. That was a problem that I was having.

[robs03silvergts]

I just finished adding some hard drives and replacing my old ocz ps520 with a pc cooling 610W 49A single rail psu. I will dl this when I get home and see if the issue is still there. That was a problem that I was having.

Thanks, I dont like being the lab rat! and :eek: at that 49A single rail PSU!!!

I thought i was doing well at 38amps on my single.

[ElAguila]

I don't have an mpeg to test at the moment but the avi and the m2v files played fine and it did not reset the clocks for me this time. I am using cat 6.8 driver.

[Neilsouth]

Doesnt work to well here on clock change i checked my clocks and it was still only changing 2d clocks.. Checked this with overclock.exe from driverheaven.

Also if i exit atitool and reloaded it it goes into 3d mode and blank screen and stays blank.

:wtf:

[Immacolata]

pre-16 is too unstable for me. That is, the card crashes too often when I change clocks to ati2dvag.dll and then I BSOD, so I will revert to beta 15 and await next version of alpha 16.

[robs03silvergts]

Doesnt work to well here on clock change i checked my clocks and it was still only changing 2d clocks.. Checked this with overclock.exe from driverheaven.

Also if i exit atitool and reloaded it it goes into 3d mode and blank screen and stays blank.

:wtf:

Ughh....dont like the sound of all these issues. I think I will just stay with beta 25 14 for now and use the overclock tool that I posted a while back when I use any driver above Cat 6.3.

[ElAguila]

Update on the movie files. The clocks no longer reset to default when viewing an avi and the system doesn't reboot either. When viewing an mpeg video, the clocks do reset to the default speeds. I haven't tried checking the box that says to automatically switch to 3d clocks yet to see if that makes a difference.

[BlueKnight]

NO MORE PROBLEM WHIT VIDEO, DVD AND VIDEO STREAMING USING A X1000 AND CAT 6.4 AND HIGHER!!!

THANK WIZZARD! :respect: :respect: :respect:

[BlueKnight]

Sorry for double post...but monitoring the frequency whit RivaTuner they don't change using avi, mpg2 and wmp format. I use 351/351 for GPU/DDR on my X1800XT and they don't return on default using a video.

Bye


PS W1zzard, there is not a method for change default frequency and voltages so when i use windows and internet i can put they on low?

[robs03silvergts]

Update on the movie files. The clocks no longer reset to default when viewing an avi and the system doesn't reboot either. When viewing an mpeg video, the clocks do reset to the default speeds. I haven't tried checking the box that says to automatically switch to 3d clocks yet to see if that makes a difference.

Thats the same thing im getting.

[BlueKnight]

Whit my x1800XT i can't block the 2D 3D frequncy. When i enter in a game tje VGA go to 3D Default ATI frequency, when i exit it returns at 2D default ATI frequency.. how can i use frequency and voltage i desire?

Bye and tnk


EDIT:

PS: Wizz, can't you create an ATItool version whit 2 or 3 profile to default...1 for the 2d and 1 other for the 3D, so that the utents can modify only this 2 voice precharged.

[ElAguila]

I checked the box that said switch to 3d clocks when starting. After doing that, no more speed reset when watching an mpeg.

[Neilsouth]

PS: Wizz, can't you create an ATItool version whit 2 or 3 profile to default...1 for the 2d and 1 other for the 3D, so that the utents can modify only this 2 voice precharged.

That would be great a 2D profile and a 3D profile , wish i could just change 3d clocks ati tool just keeps changing 2d clocks only :mad:

plus the blank screen on reloading ati tool

[Changis]

well don't know if this has been suggested earlier, but you should be able to view both gpu temps if running crossfire/dual cards, instead of switching adapters inside settings.
mabye even make room for 3/4 temps? (future proof) ;)

[Rattle]

can anyone point me in the right direction, need something for vista to control fan speed on a x1900...

atitool doesnt detect the vista driver. is there another way around this...

[Changis]

mabye you could flash the bios using rabit?

[ARTOSOFT]

mabye you could flash the bios using rabit?
Yes, I prefer that way too. Release some CPU processing time/load to VGA hardware.

Regards,
Arto.

[W1zzard]

Thanks, I dont like being the lab rat! and :eek: at that 49A single rail PSU!!!

I thought i was doing well at 38amps on my single.

thanks. you realize that i invest countless hours of my life for free to bring you a tool and you are not even willing to try it for 5 minutes? sometimes i think i should just deltree c:\atitool and move on

but nooo .. i power up the test rig again and spend more sunday time on this after 6 hours of sleep....

[Chewy]

Thanks, I dont like being the lab rat! and :eek: at that 49A single rail PSU!!!

I thought i was doing well at 38amps on my single.

wouldent take you to long to test it yourself... if you want to use the overclock... test it, if not than just come back another time when its done.:nutkick:

Some people just have no guts... damm pussy.

[Changis]

w1zzard, dude, I have been using ATi TOOL since my 9500, and it F*cking ROCKS ;) I'll test any version you throw at me ;) (no problems yet with this release)

[Neilsouth]

thanks. you realize that i invest countless hours of my life for free to bring you a tool and you are not even willing to try it for 5 minutes? sometimes i think i should just deltree c:\atitool and move on

but nooo .. i power up the test rig again and spend more sunday time on this after 6 hours of sleep....

W1zzard really nice application would you be able to sort these issues out?

1. Doesnt work to well here on clock change i checked my clocks and it was still only changing 2d clocks.. Checked this with overclock.exe from driverheaven.

2. Also if i exit atitool and reloaded it, it goes into 3d mode and blank screen and stays blank.

3. On loading any movie through zoom player, browser or zvcplayer it goes into 3d mode and causes a mass of lines down the screen, this only happens with ati tool.. ive tried to use the dont go into 3d mode through your tool but it doesnt work

[W1zzard]

the clock changes are not reflected by the 2d/3d setting ..
atitool forces the driver into 3d mode and then leaves it there. the card always thinks it's running in 3d. now atitool can freely change the card without the driver ever intefering.

2 should be fixed in next build (20 mins to post)

havent checked 3

[Changis]

any chance of monitoring more than one core at the time? or should i run 2 instances?

[robs03silvergts]

I checked the box that said switch to 3d clocks when starting. After doing that, no more speed reset when watching an mpeg.

I tried that but it didnt work for me:rolleyes: Also the artifact scanner is way to sensitive on this one and limits my OC severly.

[BooStFeD]

I tried that but it didnt work for me:rolleyes: Also the artifact scanner is way to sensitive on this one and limits my OC severly.

Try turning the artifact sensitivity down to less artifacts detected. Dropping mine down one notch from default helped alot.

[Neilsouth]

the clock changes are not reflected by the 2d/3d setting ..
atitool forces the driver into 3d mode and then leaves it there. the card always thinks it's running in 3d. now atitool can freely change the card without the driver ever intefering.

2 should be fixed in next build (20 mins to post)

havent checked 3

Ok would it be better if it goes back into 2D mode if you quit ati tool altogether ? id prefer that

:D

[W1zzard]

good idea .. i'll add a config switch for that

[Slater]

good idea .. i'll add a config switch for that
Is that sarcasm?
Or have you never really thought of adding that?

[W1zzard]

i never thought of it

[FR@NK]

Everything seems to be working fine for me. No problems with changing clocks while viewing mpeg or avi files. Overclocks same as .25 b15 as far as i can tell.

x1900xtx
6.8 cats "chuck" patch (with ati2evxx.exe disabled)
att .25 preBeta16

thx W1zzard

[Slater]

If you quit ATiTool and it goes back in to 2D mode then when you play video games wouldn't you need to keep ATiTool on to keep it overclocked?

[W1zzard]

new version
http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.25_b16pre2.exe

better clock switch handling on startup
much faster clock setting
option to return to 2d clocks on exit

[Drewster]

Im getting a completely black screen every time I try to overclock past what ATI Tool alraedy has, although it seems like its just when I overclock the memory I get a black screen.

Also, when I check the option for overriding BIOS parsing box, ill go back to the main menu of ATi Tool, and go back to it the box is unchecked, it seems to not be saving the setting.

Thanks,

Drewster

[Immacolata]

Crikey! I am afraid I cannot even help test this revision. As soon as I change clocks, the card hangs and BSODS in ati2dvag.dll. I first clicked find Max Core, crash. I next time tried to load my old working 625/725 profile. Crash with artifacts all over the place. Even the BSOD screen was a jumble of vertical lines.

Third time I made sure that ati tool enabled 3d clocks as soon as it starts. crash.

system in sig.

[Changis]

mabye you could implement Crossfirejack in driver tweaks so you can enable/disable crossfire without going into CCC?

[Neilsouth]

W1zzard -- Clicked on exit , reloaded ATI TOOL to test and the computer froze :cry: :cry:

I think i found the reason for the crash!

When you load ATI TOOL it goes into 3D MODE..
When you quit ATI TOOL it STAYS in 3D MODE..

So i feel when you Reload ati tool its trying to go into 3d mode again, but when its already in 3d mode it causes the system to totaly freeze up.

It needs an option like this

ON EXIT ( CLOSE TO 2D MODE )


2. Do i still need to disable Ati2evxx.exe ?


I forgot , THIS VERSION IS AWSOME!!! Best of all the ones ive used, just need to fix that damn crash freeze on reloading ati tool

[Neilsouth]

Damn it just disabled ati hot key poller , now everytime i use ATI TOOL and overclock and load a movie or a browser movie the screen flashs screen a few times :confused: :confused:

[W1zzard]

goddamn this is so frustrating .. off to more testing and coding

[Neilsouth]

goddamn this is so frustrating .. off to more testing and coding

hehe You are doing good , keep going :nutkick:

p.s you on msn? i can keep you updated there too

[Drewster]

goddamn this is so frustrating .. off to more testing and coding

ya w1zz ur doin good bro, just let us know if we can do anything for ya :)

[pt]

goddamn this is so frustrating .. off to more testing and coding

i don'know how to code, but i can help you by testing ATITOOL on my x1800GTO
ggod job on the lastes version btw

[Neilsouth]

i don'know how to code, but i can help you by testing ATITOOL on my x1800GTO
ggod job on the lastes version btw

Well i have a X1800XT so i think im testing aswell :wtf: :laugh:

Btw i just turned off the 3d mode thing in ati tool and quit ati tool, i decided to reload ati tool because i forgot to test something...

3D mode kicks in and the screen goes blank :cry:

[Neilsouth]

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3245/1pb5.jpg

Wizzard why cant it be as simple as this for us X1800 owners?


p.s although this overclocking tool is great , you cant save a profile.. and its very buggy

[SPHERE]

damn.. the people coming into this thread and not reporting bugs, but instead pointing them out and complaining about them are realy anoying..

i cant imagine how anoying it must be for w1zz. :( Guys if you got something you want changed about atitool it would be much more constructive to make a thread in the atitool forum titled ati tool feature request (or change)

@w1zz Thank you for making this app its helped me out alot :)

[ARTOSOFT]

new version
http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.25_b16pre2.exe

better clock switch handling on startup
much faster clock setting
option to return to 2d clocks on exit
W1zzard,

I am upgrade brom b16pre1 to b16pre2.

I found the step for GPU clock is finer. But, for Memory is not.

Problem report: when I load my overclock profile (577.80/468.00), it is ok, but when back to default (499.50/405.00), it give me 399.60/405.00 instead of 499.50/405.00. I press default button, it is 499.50/405.00.

When I load overclock profile again, it crash and I need to reset my pc. Confirm, try at least twice.

The b16pre1 doesn't have this problem. Back to b16pre1.

One more thing, with b16pre1, I can overclock GPU to 580.50 without artifacts, but not with b16pre2 (max GPU without artifacts is 577.80).

Regards,
Arto.

[Neilsouth]

damn.. the people coming into this thread and not reporting bugs, but



What are you on about we are reporting bugs :shadedshu

[Arthalen]

W1zzard,

EDIT: Ignore below, this was with beta 16 v.1. I'll give the newer beta a try tonight.

Unfortunately, on my X1900GT, I get Blue screens with Beta 16. Everytime I start an App that requires 3D mode, it errors in ati2dvag.dll with a BSOD.

Couldn't even test clocking or other options, had to do a full Cat 6.8 reinstall to get my system working again.

However, I will say - keep up the good work. I'll test any further releases you have.

Regards,

Arthalen

[W1zzard]

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/3245/1pb5.jpg

Wizzard why cant it be as simple as this for us X1800 owners?


p.s although this overclocking tool is great , you cant save a profile.. and its very buggy

using ati's overclocker you have a frequency step size of something like 9 mhz and you cant overclock beyond ccc limits

[Neilsouth]

using ati's overclocker you have a frequency step size of something like 9 mhz and you cant overclock beyond ccc limits

Sorry guys for taking this one off topic shortly :eek:

But i dont understand W1zzard using that application you can overclock beyond ccc limits, i know this because ive seen it being used through rivatuner hardware monitor. Its just a personal preference id rather use your application ati tool. But alas i cant use it when it gives a blank screen on reloading or flicking green screen everytime i load a movie. Only way to stop the green screen flick is to keep the ati hot key poller enabled.

Id just prefer an option in ati tool that if i EXIT ati tool it goes back into 2D mode and the clocks are reset, i dont want to be in 3d mode and overclocked 24/7:cry:

[bbjayo]

Hey W1zzard

Awesome work mate. Have been using the GT version of beta 15 and that at last got me somewhere with OCing my HIS x1900GT. Have moved onto b16pre2 and first impressions are that this version works a bit better. I still get the desktop corruption when changing clicks but that's no biggie. I jumped straight to an ambitions 677/847 and all looks OK ATM. One thing I've noticed tho. I keep AtiTools open and during a run of 3dmark06 when the CPU tests start, my clocks drop to 399/499 and don;t increase again for the last 2 3D tests. I've disabled the hotkey poller and the x1000 OC options are all ticked.

I'll keep playing around and post my findings.

bb

[Immacolata]

Are you supposed to disable the hotkey poller? Using b15 and b16 I have left CCC alone. Made sure that the Overdrive function was not unlocked, and left all other functions as they were.

[Neilsouth]

Are you supposed to disable the hotkey poller? Using b15 and b16 I have left CCC alone. Made sure that the Overdrive function was not unlocked, and left all other functions as they were.

Thats what i thought too , disabling the hotkey poller for me causes no end of problems... with ati tool Green screen flicks when i load a movie , green screen flicks when i load a trailer in my internet browser :twitch: .

[W1zzard]

it should work without disabling any ati services ..

i'm sick of this .. if you want to overclock buy an nvidia card

[Neilsouth]

it should work without disabling any ati services ..

i'm sick of this .. if you want to overclock buy an nvidia card

What are you angry about? We are giving you loads of suggestions and reporting problems
we are trying to get you to make this application the best it can be.

Pretty much all of us have said its great what you are doing and the application is awsome
just needs more work :rockout:

[W1zzard]

yeah but whatever i do its not working right.. i just put in an x1300 and its not working at all and i dont have the slightest idea whats wrong there this time

[Neilsouth]

yeah but whatever i do its not working right.. i just put in an x1300 and its not working at all and i dont have the slightest idea whats wrong there this time


Ahh i see , perhaps if you mention what exactly is the problem perhaps someone else here with coding skills can help you out?? are you working on this application solo?

Damn impressive if so :respect:

[Immacolata]

yeah but whatever i do its not working right.. i just put in an x1300 and its not working at all and i dont have the slightest idea whats wrong there this time

Beta 15 seemed to run just fine for me at least. No restarts, no freezeups. Was a bit picky about 2d and 3d mode but I managed to coerced it to work as I wanted it to. Maybe let ati tool rest for a bit. I think the author of ati tray tools have finally figured out something and is beta testing. If he really managed to do it, perhaps the release of that utility could lend some insight to what the devil is going on. He might also just be at the same stage as beta 15. Time will tell.

Maybe going back to Beta 15 and start in a different way is the way to go? Start by only grafting the extra x1000 features onto beta 15 but leave the rest alone, see what it changes? just a suggestion. I enjoy the easiness of ati tool. When it works, it works well and is fast and easy to use.

Btw, one thing that would help immensely in testing would be graphs of detected clock speeds. Im always wondering whether my card runs at teh settings I told it to when in a full screen 3d app. Once I tab out, the scores ALWAYS show default speed 500/600. If there was a graph that logged core or mem speed over time, at least I had a history to compare. A feature worth contemplating perhaps? That is unless you completely abandon the project in disgust ^^

[W1zzard]

Ahh i see , perhaps if you mention what exactly is the problem perhaps someone else here with coding skills can help you out?? are you working on this application solo?

Damn impressive if so :respect:

unless you are a bios/driver developer for ati you cant help me :/

[W1zzard]

Beta 15 seemed to run just fine for me at least. No restarts, no freezeups. Was a bit picky about 2d and 3d mode but I managed to coerced it to work as I wanted it to. Maybe let ati tool rest for a bit. I think the author of ati tray tools have finally figured out something and is beta testing. If he really managed to do it, perhaps the release of that utility could lend some insight to what the devil is going on.

Maybe going back to Beta 15 and start in a different way is the way to go? Start by only grafting the extra x1000 features onto beta 15 but leave the rest alone, see what it changes? just a suggestion. I enjoy the easiness of ati tool. When it works, it works well and is fast and easy to use.

beta 15 uses the driver to set clocks.
problems:
- smallest step 9 mhz -> breaks find max
- limited to ccc overdrive limit -> breaks serious overclocking
- doesnt work on second crossfire card -> breaks overclocking for crossfire
- more or less bugged depending on ati driver version -> creates dependance on ati + breaks overclocking
- changing memory clock autotunes memory timings and nothing i can do
- switch to 3d mode sets voltages from driver, overrides atitool setting -> breaks voltage adjustments

[pt]

i'm sick of this .. if you want to overclock buy an nvidia card

i don't wan't a nvidia card :(
we will just have to kidnap ati programmers and stuck them in a basemment with a computer, to see what can they do:)
time to bring the TPU squad back alive

not joking now: can't you ask ATI for some help, since your tool is one of the most utilized in the world?

[Immacolata]

I see, those drivers look very possessive of the card.

pt, I wonder if ATI wants overclocking only to work inside their own drivers control. Looks like it, and perhaps the only way to overclock ATI cards now outside of the drivers restriction is to hack the driver or the bios :( Not likely they will help W1z with anything regarding their cards inner workings.

[pt]

I see, those drivers look very possessive of the card.

pt, I wonder if ATI wants overclocking only to work inside their own drivers control. Looks like it, and perhaps the only way to overclock ATI cards now outside of the drivers restriction is to hack the driver or the bios :( Not likely they will help W1z with anything regarding their cards inner workings.

but they should, most reviews utilize ATITOOL if it stops and the max overclock is imposed by CCC then NVIDIA cards will take the crown, if ATI don't wan't to help w1zard they are :nutkick: themselves

ps: Wizard, have you tought about partenering with ATI TRAY TOOLS guy, he could help

[BlueKnight]

Sorry guys for taking this one off topic shortly :eek:

But i dont understand W1zzard using that application you can overclock beyond ccc limits, i know this because ive seen it being used through rivatuner hardware monitor. Its just a personal preference id rather use your application ati tool. But alas i cant use it when it gives a blank screen on reloading or flicking green screen everytime i load a movie. Only way to stop the green screen flick is to keep the ati hot key poller enabled.

Id just prefer an option in ati tool that if i EXIT ati tool it goes back into 2D mode and the clocks are reset, i dont want to be in 3d mode and overclocked 24/7:cry:

Man, if you create a 2D profile whit ATITOOL, what is your problem?
I use ATITool for stay at 351/351Mhz whit lower voltage...you can use 3d detection option...start 3D profile when enter in a game, and return in 2d profiule when you exit...

[W1zzard]

i'm already working with unwinder from rivatuner .. good team ..

ati tray has no idea how to do more advanced stuff on x1000

ati does give me some info .. how to use the driver to do overclocking .. see my previously posted lists of how well it works

[BlueKnight]

i'm already working with unwinder from rivatuner .. good team ..

ati tray has no idea how to do more advanced stuff on x1000

ati does give me some info .. how to use the driver to do overclocking .. see my previously posted lists of how well it works

W1zzard, i think that with tis beta 16 you have solved a lot of problems...

when exit from an 3d application, on my x1800xt the frequency return to 2d default. If you find a method to block every vga to 3d mode man can auto create a 2d profile and change it manually. Now i have no problems whit the option 3d detection, because when i exit or i enter in the game for 1 second the frequency go in default 2d/3d by ATI before changing in profile i choose.

If i am not clear whit language, i can send 1 image of the rivatuner graphic frequncy.

[robs03silvergts]

using ati's overclocker you have a frequency step size of something like 9 mhz and you cant overclock beyond ccc limits


Yes you can, I run 722core and 828mem with it:) I am actually using this tool right now because it does not downclock my settings when watching a movie MPEG ETC.

I would preffer ati tool but that Mpeg problem still exist after the 6.3 catalyst.

[Neilsouth]

Man, if you create a 2D profile whit ATITOOL, what is your problem?
I use ATITool for stay at 351/351Mhz whit lower voltage...you can use 3d detection option...start 3D profile when enter in a game, and return in 2d profiule when you exit...

I dont think you understand but no worries im not going to explain it over and over again :nutkick:

Yes you can, I run 722core and 828mem with it:) .

Same here

[Konky]

Hi Wizard,

Sorry for this rather big posting, this is the first time i post here so i have a lot of things in mind :-)
I'd appreciate an answer.

To start with i'd like to say that Atitool is a really nice peace of software.
It's lightweight, easy and fast to use and offers all that what i found missing in the official tools.
So even without overclocking i'd use atitool instead of the CCC.

What i think you should decide:
Atitool WITH or WITHOUT the ati "drivers" that change clocks.
In my eyes the whole 2d/3d switching is already solved in your tool, so why keep those "drivers" running in background and f*cking with atitool tweaks?
I for myself use 3 keyboard shortcuts for idle, 2d and 3d as i disliked the possibility of crashes when you forget to stop the ati service after a cataclyst update or similar.

So i suggest: really stop the service if it is running, force the atitool features instead of risking conflicts (even if it's compatible now, maybe it conflicts with the next ati driver version)
You did implement 2d/3d detection, you implemented profiles. Why should anyone require the same features two times which might even conflict each other?

At this location i might also add a problem i encountered with atitool beta 15 and the ati service (when i say service i mean the "hotkey" poller, obviously they tried to hide the real purpose :-) )
The problem derscribed here might destroy someone else card, so it's kinda serious!
I just installed my new 1900XT and disabled the service, i upgraded to the latest driver (6.8 i think), rebooted, started atitool and did a 3dmark benchmark.

What happened? somehow atitool and the reactivated service (6.8 installation) conflicted and the FAN was DISABLED at all!
I noted it when the card was at 112°C GPU because i expected more noise, so i was able to stop the whole thing just in time i guess.
My idea to force a stopped hotkey poller would avoid such problems.
deactivate and even reboot to remove all traces, then atitool has "fresh" land to play with.


Sidenote: i did not install the new prebeta, so this is about the last recent pre-beta 16
You added the new x1000 option to stop the alteration of memory timings based by frequency in the bios.
What i did not understand yet: will this reset the timings to some default when activated?
To what, and when does that happen?
But at least i can say: this change did not do anything good (or bad) to me.
My memory overclocking seems to be limited to about 750mhz, higher and i will get artifacts very soon (starts when gpu temperature is about 77°C, so i guess the memory is at about 67).
I tried playing with voltages and the new setting, but nothing changed the behaviour.
A bit more "readme" would be very useful, even when you release only a prebeta.
It is hard for us to test if we do not understand the function effects

Beside that i did not note crashes, but i miss the feature that atitool shows the last working frequencies (and voltages would be nice) after a lockup, at least i did not see any such window yet.

Also i miss a function to enter maximum ratings for temperature that offer possibilities like
"alarm sound" "profile change" "fan profile change"

And last:
I deeply searched the internet for temperature specifications and found >NONE< for Ati, the samsung rams or even this damn vt1103 voltage regulator ?!
If anyone has a datasheet to the volterra 1000 series i'd highly appreciate a PM.
Even some maximum ratings for the core, ram and regulator would help a lot

[Immacolata]

Strange. I wonder why ATI does this, if they are willing to help. Why must their driver be such a control freak?

[BlueKnight]

I dont think you understand but no worries im not going to explain it over and over again :nutkick:



Same here

I have an x1800xt and i have not this problems...has i think no other have this problems...are you sure that you don't mistake something?

What drivers you use? Catalyst 6.8? Voltage and frequency of your 2D profile or what you use for see video and movie?

[Plug]

i will try and get the ATI XK1 White papers for you wizzard.

[Plug]

http://www.ati.com/products/radeonx1k/whitepapers.html

still searching dont know if these will help though.

Without the proper white papers though its like a needle in a hay stack... we all need to combine the might and find these lol

[Slater]

Hey w1zz in ATi Tray tools they have options such at "Disable Z fog" and stuff like that. You should impliment that in to ATi Tool at TrayTools just isn't my choice of programs and kills my framerates (even if I don't have any "tweaks" on)

[BlueKnight]

W1zzard, whit pre2 i have problems entering and exit from games because the exchange of frequency and voltage is too fast...whit 3d detection and pre1 no problems

[Rattle]

any chance of a vista version of atitool anytime soon ?

[W1zzard]

i will try and get the ATI XK1 White papers for you wizzard.

congrats for best laugh of the day .. and i even watched two very good movies

[Slater]

lol w1zz that was a lil harsh :)
But still funny lol :roll:

[W1zzard]

i'm sorry but sometimes i wonder what people think about multi billion dollar companies .. you just write to support@ati.com and tell them you want their trade secrets for free for a good cause?

[Slater]

this is the funny post though
http://www.ati.com/products/radeonx1k/whitepapers.html

still searching dont know if these will help though.

Without the proper white papers though its like a needle in a hay stack... we all need to combine the might and find these lol

[Slater]

OH MY GOD I FOUND THEM
http://www.bagnboxman.co.uk/large-jpegs/brown_white_paper_bags.jpg

:roll:

[Changis]

ahh, between the brown papers.. off course! Slater: your a Genius!

[Konky]

Well i see 3 ways to get specs:
a) maybe through one of the other (smallest?) 2nd party companies that create cards with ati chips, maybe we should just create a list and try to pick on the tiniest of them (most likely you will find leaks if you search strong enough)
b) disassemble the driver
c) try to debug the driver and see what we find inside ?

Maybe picking on the linux drivers as linux offers way better tools to get indepth ?

No idea what has already been tried

[W1zzard]

b and c is what i'm doing. the linux drivers do not implement all this 2d/3d clock stuff afaik so no help

i'm working on a new idea right now .. maybe i have something soon for you to try

[W1zzard]

ok next try ..

http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.25_b16pre3.exe

added options to disable ati's control freak process :)

[pt]

trying it
it still has the same black screen problem at startup, but thefan gonne to 100% too this time for 2 secs.

[W1zzard]

the black screen is probably your card going to 3d clocks?

[pt]

the black screen is probably your card going to 3d clocks?

the card isn't overcloked it's always at 500/500 at 57ºc under idle with fan at 33%

[SPHERE]

ok next try ..

http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.25_b16pre3.exe

added options to disable ati's control freak process :) i like it! testing now on x1900gt will report back thx w1zz :)

[ARTOSOFT]

Beta16pre3 give me the same problem with beta16pre2.

When I switch profile to overclocking ==> ok. When I switch back to default profile ==> pink or light green screen with fine vertical lines from top to bottom of the screen. I need to press reset button on my PC.

Regards,
Arto.

[Mekrel]

Hi W1zzzard,

Obviously due to having an X1800XL card, I can't test 3d switching but I like testing the find max. The Pre3 Beta 16 find max for core (testing now) seems to be working. Just hit 643 and found some artifacts and then started to lower.

Obviously due to it never working for me before on this card, I do not know what im looking for. When does ATi Tool decide what it thinks the max is? Or do I have to keep and eye and average out where it maxes each time?

Edit: I've read the wiki, seems like it just carrys on going. I think it's fairly accurate though, I think with 1.25v through the core I can get 630 stable and it was on 639 and getting lower before I quit it.

[Drewster]

Beta16pre3 give me the same problem with beta16pre2.

When I switch profile to overclocking ==> ok. When I switch back to default profile ==> pink or light green screen with fine vertical lines from top to bottom of the screen. I need to press reset button on my PC.

Regards,
Arto.

Ya I'm havin the same issue, but Im also not able to go past a certain point when overclocking my memory or I get the problem again. Also seems to be giving me some issues when booting back into windows, keeps tellin me "Your video card has been changed" and then my settings are gone, have to restart or reinstall it to fix that.

Just lettin ya know W1zz for the next version

Thanks man,

Drewster

[SPHERE]

i like it! testing now on x1900gt will report back thx w1zz :)when using prebeta3 the only problems i incounter are artifact scaning doesn't detect visible artifacts using ither scaning method and there is no tray icon

i realy like that timing auto disable thingy it inreases my max mem oc by nearly 150mhz(x2for ddr) i can now bench at 800mhz on my mem when 650 used to be my max

btw nice job with those added x1k settings they are nice to have :)

sry i didnt get round to comprehensively testing out the last few betas

i haven't been using profiles so i dont know about above posts

x1900gt windows mce 2005 nf4 btw

[Mekrel]

Hmm got a bit of a problem, after aborting the find max, the interface of ATi tool seems to go crazy. It is like im pressing tab and all the buttons are being highlighted one after another. I can't select anything.

[SPHERE]

Hmm got a bit of a problem, after aborting the find max, the interface of ATi tool seems to go crazy. It is like im pressing tab and all the buttons are being highlighted one after another. I can't select anything. your card crash? or does it do it every time at stable clocks?

[Mekrel]

No the card didn't crash, I aborted it then went to click default but can't. It's as if im just pressing tab in ati tool to skip between the buttons very fast.

Hangon, just editing this and it's doing it here. The cursor is moving on its own - must be a system problem.

[JC316]

Official I love wizzard post!!!! Now I don't have to have 4 freaking programs to overclock. It works great for me.

[Athlonman]

W1zzard, you are my hero...

was having issues with EVE Online and ati2evxx.exe. Was causing graphical issues while in game. Disabled it using beta 15 and ran 2D Settings and the glitches were gone. Installed Beta 16 and tested it with ati2evxx.exe removed and no glitches in 3D Speed either...Nice thing now is LCDStudio now gets speed updates too, so when in 3D mode, my G15 reports 621/720 and 2D mode reports 500/594.

I did notice however that speeds, temps and such we not being updated on the ATI Tool window (2nd monitor) while in Full-Screen 3D. Not sure if there might be a bug there or not...CPU Temp was saying 95c on the ATITool window but on my LCD it was saying 85C...

Just curious but are there way to report GPU Volts, GPU Current, Fan Speed (percentage would be fine), etc so I can use these for my G15 LCD or are they already implemented?

The plugin for ATITool may need updated for LCDStudio also...

[Plug]

congrats for best laugh of the day .. and i even watched two very good movies

glad that made you laugh :D

what is makeing me laugh even harder is the fact without them your screwed. :P

[Immacolata]

Guys, I have a request to make of you. Put your card model and driver version in your sig, perhaps even your motherboard. Maybe this will help spotting which system can deal with the new versions, and which systems that crashes.

[Neilsouth]

Using cats 6.9 beta


1. I loaded this new version screen went into 3d mode and setup my profile no overclocking as of yet, i quit ati tool and reloaded it screen went blank and then came back so thats working :toast:


2. I setup my clocks tested for artifacts and everything worked fine , i pressed exit to test with clocks being used

Instant green screen with pink lines running down and i had to hard reboot :banghead:

3. This time i didnt quit ati tool but left it running went to play a game , game loaded but screen renamed black with no sound and i had to hard reboot.

Ati tool isnt working to well on my powercolour x1800xt graphics card for some reason

[dertimaushh]

Using Cat 6.8 feat. x1800xt 512mb and latest beta 16.

I can over- and downclock my card again. W1zzard :toast:

[Brama]

Wiz, I am happy that you are in touch with Unwinder: he is a very rude man sometimes but very skillfull on the matters involved in writing a tool like your.

Don't be frustrated by some trouble, I am sure you can "win the war" ;)

I will test today the new version of pre-Beta 16 with a 1900XT Sapphire; I let you know my results.

Bye,

[Konky]

I have new problems that appeared yesterday, i'm a bit clueless to be honest:
When i startup it can happen that the screen just goes black when atitool is loaded.
Next is a crash (reset) or it's just black but background still seems to work (you can hear it by doing stuff that creates sound output).

So it is not happening always, it just happens sometimes.
Temperatures are low to normal, nothing higher than 75° GPU ever, the other parts are all below that.

It did even happen with no overclocking at all (so default 2d voltage as i do not switch profiles automatically)

Card is a 1900xt, main cpu/memory is not overclocked
Ofcourse no ati crap is running in the background


Right now i am stresstestnig it, and it works for over 30 minutes (3dmark06) without problems, so i am really clueless about the problem ^^ Just wanted to give the info, maybe someone else experiences the same

Maybe it's the card that's somehow damaged, in that case i'll have to buy the 3rd ;/

[Immacolata]

I don't think so, but the way atitool interacts with the driver makes the VPU driver crash. I experience it as well in all the builds of Atitool where w1zzard tries to bypass the harsh driver control. Sometimes much more than others, like pre beta 16 build #2.

It could be interesting to find out WHEN his app makes your driver crash. Apparantly not always, so maybe he is on the right track with this build.

[W1zzard]

if you select "terminate" atitool will set 3d clocks when its started and then kill the ati process. after that there is no further interaction

you can manually kill ati2evxx.exe (all of them) and then start atitool, see if it works now, but it wont switch to 3d clocks

[Haste]

Well, i'm a bit terrified by reading this thread. I have to admit I was sure that using the ati2evxx service will solve the problems and now W1zzard prove me wrong. I've sent quite a lot of tickets to ATi (mentioned ATiTool many times) but my hopes seems to be misplaced. Onestly, i'm considering buying na G80 after its release cos i'm really tired of this. :cry:

ATi said to take care about overclockers and this X1k series is the right opposite of the statement. If they are NOT able to release their own OC tool that has all the features we need then they should help people like W1zzard to improve his tool. I really don't understand ATi and their politics. Without the ATiTool, ATi cards are almost useless for overclockers and it means to stay with Cat. 6.3 or don't overclock at all (and pls don't mention that stupid overdrive in CCC). We can only hope that AMD,ATi acquisition will bring us some fresh air or this was my last ATi card since R9700 ...

Sorry for OT but i had to write this somewhere :shadedshu

[passionne]

Why not launching a survey on this website with 2 questions :

1. Would you like ATI official support for ATI Tool ?

2. Would you buy an ATI card if ATI Tool would not exist ?

And, in order to obtain enough replies, this survey would be announced on other websites. A survey with a few dozens of thousands of replies may have an impact.

And in order to protect the ATI driver secrets, W1zzard might sign a non-disclosure agreement.

Your feedback ?

[Athlonman]

if you select "terminate" atitool will set 3d clocks when its started and then kill the ati process. after that there is no further interaction

you can manually kill ati2evxx.exe (all of them) and then start atitool, see if it works now, but it wont switch to 3d clocks

So without the ati2evxx.exe, atitool won't switch to 3D Modes? I take it you're using
ati2evxx.exe to get your 3D Clock information or am I misreading this...I noticed 2 running on my system, when I killed them ATITool no longer switched to 3D modes...

When I tried setting my own 3D profile last night at 621/720, it set fine, but when I tried going into a game (EVE-Online) VPU recover activated and switched me back to 2D speed. Then the system froze and I had to reboot....maybe it's something I'm doing wrong...are the voltage settings Profile dependant or is it a one voltage for all thing?

Anways thanks again....keep up the great work...

Athlonman

Athlon 64 X2 3800+ @ 2.4Ghz
ABIT Fatal1ty AN8
2 GB Corsair XMS PRO
Connect3D Radeon x1900xt
Western Digital 36 GB Raptor
Seagate 400GB Barracuda w/NCQ
HP DVD±RW w/Lightscribe
Thermaltake Xaser v1000A
Thermaltake Tough Power 700W w/Cable Management
Logitech G15 Keyboard
Logitech Media Play Mouse
Dual IBM 19" P96 Monitors (soon to be a Sceptre 20.1" LCD)

[Steevo]

I agree, mebey we all should send ATI a e-mail, letter, etc to get them on board or else. :D


I drool over the visual quality from ATI and have always been a fan since the RAGE days. But enough is enough, nvidia is OCing the piss out of their cards and we have to suffer.

[kinc]

I agree, wizz is doing alot for ATI with ATItool. Without it we couldn't do anything extreme with ATI cards. Thats a fact.

[Steevo]

https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894

877-284-1564
(Toll Free)
905-882-8440*

Phone Number for pre-sales support.


Call em, and start in on how you would like to buy a new X1900 series, but want the ability to OC to the max and feel that nvidia is a better option right now, however is they were to cooperate and help out tech power up dot com.......

[W1zzard]

i really doubt its gonna make any difference no matter how many emails you send/call them.

the ati process is used to activate the 3d clocks once, and to switch back to 2d clocks. all other changes are done by atitool on its own

[kinc]

Yeah sadly that's the truth.

[Urlyin]

I know some of you are frustrated and like W1zz said a letter to ATI wouldn’t do much good … however you can continue to support ATITool , just as you are with feed back and testing … so try to be patient and I'm sure W1zz will work out the bugs ... :toast:

[pt]

2. Would you buy an ATI card if ATI Tool would not exist ?

i would think twice, and you idea is great, but ATI will probabily don't thhink the same :(

[Mr Paul]

Forgive my ignorance, but do any changes made with ATI Tool reset to default when the PC is rebooted and ATI tool not loaded? i.e. voltage changes etc...

Cheers

Great work by the way ;)

[some1]

Forgive my ignorance, but do any changes made with ATI Tool reset to default when the PC is rebooted and ATI tool not loaded? i.e. voltage changes etc...

Cheers

Great work by the way ;)

Yes

[Brama]

I tested tonight ATT 0.25 beta 16-3 and I found a big issue when you launch a program that uses DirectX VA acceleration, like a DVD viewer.

I am at default clock of my card (499.5/599.4) and when I launch the program I see a noise on screen, like when the clock is changed.
The program starts and works as usual.

As soon as I close the program, the memory clock goes to 356.4 and from now the video card becomes unstable and strange things (GPU reset, dark screen computer lock, green screen computer lock) happen if you try to switch clock.

I am enough shure that there is a mode other than 2D and 3D, not known by ATT, that is switched by video drivers when DirectX VA acceleration is enabled and that cause instability in ATT.

I hope that my tests can give some clue to Wiz.

Bye,

[SPHERE]

I tested tonight ATT 0.25 beta 16-3 and I found a big issue when you launch a program that uses DirectX VA acceleration, like a DVD viewer.

I am at default clock of my card (499.5/599.4) and when I launch the program I see a noise on screen, like when the clock is changed.
The program starts and works as usual.

As soon as I close the program, the memory clock goes to 356.4 and from now the video card becomes unstable and strange things (GPU reset, dark screen computer lock, green screen computer lock) happen if you try to switch clock.

I am enough shure that there is a mode other than 2D and 3D, not known by ATT, that is switched by video drivers when DirectX VA acceleration is enabled and that cause instability in ATT.

I hope that my tests can give some clue to Wiz.

Bye,
gpu, os, cpu, mobo, driver ver., etc? whatcha got?

[Plug]

wizzard it might be a good idea to contact the folks over at driverheaven.

Zardon might be able to help as he has close relations with ATI tech staff.

[Haste]

gpu, os, cpu, mobo, driver ver., etc? whatcha got?

He has his "System Specs" in his profile. Just click on it ;) I have it specified the same way ...

[FR@NK]

So without the ati2evxx.exe, atitool won't switch to 3D Modes? I take it you're using
ati2evxx.exe to get your 3D Clock information or am I misreading this...I noticed 2 running on my system, when I killed them ATITool no longer switched to 3D modes...

When I tried setting my own 3D profile last night at 621/720, it set fine, but when I tried going into a game (EVE-Online) VPU recover activated and switched me back to 2D speed. Then the system froze and I had to reboot....maybe it's something I'm doing wrong...are the voltage settings Profile dependant or is it a one voltage for all thing?

Anways thanks again....keep up the great work...

Athlonman

With both processes running i can load profiles but cant manually change clocks and also will revert back to stock speeds once i run a 3d program. If i end one of thos ati2evxx.exe processes everything works perfect. No crashes, no limit on ocing and no issues with mpeg....and eve-online runs great ;)

x1900xtx
cats 6.8 "chuck"
prebeta2

i'll test to see if the same works for prebeta3 later on tonight.

Testing done.....Running prebeta3 now and doesnt work using any of the ATI clock switching settings on the x1000 overclocking page :(

Ending one of the ati2evxx.exe still works, has anyone else tested this?

My system has 2 "ati2evxx.exe" processes, its the "ati2evxx.exe" thats using more memory that needs to be ended.

I think systool is causing me to crash, could it be interfering with atitools?

[W1zzard]

I tested tonight ATT 0.25 beta 16-3 and I found a big issue when you launch a program that uses DirectX VA acceleration, like a DVD viewer.

I am at default clock of my card (499.5/599.4) and when I launch the program I see a noise on screen, like when the clock is changed.
The program starts and works as usual.

As soon as I close the program, the memory clock goes to 356.4 and from now the video card becomes unstable and strange things (GPU reset, dark screen computer lock, green screen computer lock) happen if you try to switch clock.

I am enough shure that there is a mode other than 2D and 3D, not known by ATT, that is switched by video drivers when DirectX VA acceleration is enabled and that cause instability in ATT.

I hope that my tests can give some clue to Wiz.

Bye,

this happens when you have the ati process at the suspend/terminate setting?

[Brama]

I noted that prebeta3 is not able to stop the two services ati2evxx.exe.
I tested both settings of the x1000 overclocking page that would disable or stop the above service.

If I disable manually the service, everything seems working ok, apart the memory clock reduction after using a DirectX Video Acceleration.

If I don't disable manually the service, I have random strange effects.



P.S. Wiz, I have this issue with both settings of the x1000 overclocking page (actually in my system these settings do nothing) but also manually disabling the service from service manager. With ati2evxx.exe really disabled, the only side effect is to have a memory clock reduction when closing a program that uses DirectX VA but I don't have any GPU reset or computer lock.
To switch on the DirectX VA you need the right codec as not all the codecs switch it on. I use last nvidia codec that switches on really DirecX VA.

[Konky]

systool crashes my pc as well when atitool is disabled

I use rivatuner for monitoring, the plugins are really neat

[Neilsouth]

Well i dont know whats happened but now everytime i use ati tool and load a game i just get a blank screen and i have to hard reboot

:cry:

edit : damn its because anything over 750 on the memory and it doesnt work, but does with ccc and with the clocker on driverheaven *confused*

edit : ok well its working with beta 15

Time for more testing

[Konky]

I still got regular lockups.
The overclocking is low right now, voltage ist just 0.25 volt over normal, memory and ddci is as usual.
I do get no artifacts, even after 30 minutes scan or with an hour 3dmark demo i am not able to see any bugs.
But as example why playing oblivion it happens regulary that the screen jsut turns black and/or reboot happens.
Together with this sometimes the background is locked or the background seems to work but just no monitor output anymore.

The same even sometimes happens when i just startup and atitool is loaded, you hear the fans going up (as fanspeeds are used) but no (!) profile is changed, so 2d clocks are used.
Directly after you hear the fans the pc sometimes goes black and reboots.


sapphire 1900xt
Windows xp, sp2 is fresh installed (nearly no stuff there)
No other crap is running, ati drivers are disabled
Catalyst 6.8 is used
All Atitool beta 16 versions
cpu and memory are not overclocked at all


to summerize:
It is not a temperature problem ( i am sure about this )
The overclocking is not part of the problem (happens in 2d mode as well)
It might be connected to the atitool fan driver
Can happen during usual operation, or during atitool startup
Windows does not always crash too, sometimes only the monitor turns black (like no signal)

This is a kinda new problem, it did not happen the week before.
I do not know if it related to the latest beta, but could be

[Neilsouth]

Wizzard i have found a bug

1. The bug is the voltage isnt forcing itself to what i set it to, when it auto loads my profile its only going to 1.40 VOLTS instead of 1.45 :banghead: , if i manually go to voltage and click apply it applies the 1.45 just fine. :(

It also applies it just fine if i load my profile manually , but when loading the profile automatic by 3d detection its only loading 1.40 volts
instead of the 1.45 ive saved

edit : this is with the first pre beta 16 release, the other 16's dont work at all with my games

[Immacolata]

I still got regular lockups.

to summerize:
It is not a temperature problem ( i am sure about this )
The overclocking is not part of the problem (happens in 2d mode as well)
It might be connected to the atitool fan driver
Can happen during usual operation, or during atitool startup
Windows does not always crash too, sometimes only the monitor turns black (like no signal)

This is a kinda new problem, it did not happen the week before.
I do not know if it related to the latest beta, but could be

Have you run with laxed timings or the strict timings imposed by bios? Have you tried avoiding the fan driver for atitool and let the ATI card handle it ?

[Konky]

I tried both @ Immacolata
And i did not try to avoid fan handling by atitool yet, i hate atis way of heating up the card
When i disable fan handling and play with stock clocks, is there even anything left that's activated in atitool?
I strongly guess the bug/problem lies within the fan handler, mabye there is a chance of crash in some states when fanspeeds are altered

[Brama]

As past versions the artifacts scanner sometimes works, sometimes not.
I was not able to figure how to make it work.

[Konky]

I don't understand where the problem is to general detect if there is a bigger glitch ?
Just go through all pixel and test for the reference, count the wrong pixels.
The number should tell you how "big" the error is, so some "error bar" could be displayed to at least give a hint.
it's really bad for the eyes and concentration to watch for single yellow pixels on the screen ^^

[Gnerma]

An unknown version of PB16 just showed up on majorgeeks (http://www.majorgeeks.com/ATITool_d4109.html) :rolleyes:

[Joe Camel]

W1zzard,

PLEASE dont give up !!!

as Kinc said B4, without you, ALL "benchers" would be on Nvidia cards :shadedshu



you have MY (ATi FanBoi) support !!!

:respect:

[Neilsouth]

as Kinc said B4, without you, ALL "benchers" would be on Nvidia cards :shadedshu


Ermmm well no , but he does do a damn good job :rockout:

[Losus_Deliosus]

Just tried b16pre3 last night and I've noticed a few odd things happening...which is better than the 'just crashing' the other b16's did to me.

First thing. If I understand the setting correctly, by default when starting up atitool it suspends the ati hotkey poller (ati2evxx.exe) by actually putting the service in a 'suspend' state. If that is correct then atitool cannot do that as it appears that with cat6.8 there is no way to suspend or even stop the ati hotkey poller service. What I do instead is start atitool and then using Process Explorer I suspend the ATI Hotkey Poller process itself (the one branched off of services.exe) and it appears to do just as good as job stopping 2D/3D switch and even stopping those DX VA clockings.

Now on to the bad part. If I start off from stock 3D clocks and voltages and fan speed (and stock 3D clock but agressive voltages and fanspeed) and slowly overclock, higher and higher, my x1900xt's performance gets...slower and slower...and slower, until I hit my beta14's 729/819 clocks and my card is getting about equivilent performance from various benchmarks/games/atitool 3d view as if the card was clocked at about 300/300 or something around that range. Also, if I now begin to downclock from that 729/829 my cards performance gets better and better till it hits a random grey area where the card's performance begins to get worse as it should.

Darn, and last night I thought I finally found a version of atitool that worked perfectly for me. :ohwell: Anyways, hope I didn't give you a headache. :)

[cool_recep]

:respect: W1zzard....first

I think I got the bug...gotcha...

the bug is...when you set up the ati tool and check the box to run it after the installation...and when you click the finis button the system crashes...:eek:

the screen gets fully green lines.bottom to up and the junk locks up...:D

no logs or settings of version before is stored...




wowowowow....slow baby....Update Update:D
just two minutes ago I have tested this new version again...when I run it I saw that the ati2evxx is still runnug...gues what...I closed the atitool...end these two precess...opend up again the ati tool...istantly before seeing the ait tool...with the two clicks on the icon of the tool... system locked up again...

also plesa w1zard make a bug fix list or some thing cuz if I have to read this 18 pages..I dont even try to tell you the bugs or things...the topic should be cleaned or a bug fix list must be added...

you are the best W1zzard...I am a semi-noob :D

going to bed....al crew of TP-UP good night...have nice dreams...:D

my system:

AMD 3200
MSI K8N SLI bios 1.6
Sapphire X1900 XT@XTX BIOS @675/800
twinmos 512x2 kit

if this is a real bug...I will be glad to help this perfect tool

[Losus_Deliosus]

Cool_recep, the bug is don't run atitool right after the installation, restart the computer first. I had a couple of other bugs happen to me too because I didn't restart first after installing atitool, don't know why but restarting after install seems to fix a couple of them.

[ARTOSOFT]

An unknown version of PB16 just showed up on majorgeeks (http://www.majorgeeks.com/ATITool_d4109.html) :rolleyes:
I am trying to download it. It is beta16pre3.

Regards,
Arto.

[Foca]

Hello, im new on the forums :)
Well, i ALWAYS used atitool, i had a 9800pro with r360 core and 98XT bios until last week, i got myself a provisory X1800GTO 256mb from Gecube till i get more $ for a x19xt (spent all on the new system lol)

Anyway, the first thing i noticed is that 0.24 didnt supported x1k anymore, so i downloaded the 0.25 beta 15, and i just couldnt change the core and mem clocks AT ALL, when i clicked "set clock" they just went back to 499.5 both (500/500 = x1800gto stock)... now i just got the beta 16 pre3 and now i can finally overclock BOTH gpu em vram!!! So, NICE WORK there :D

One of the only things i miss from the good ol' 0.24 days is the refresh override function, i prefer atitool's refresh override way more than CCC's, that damn ccc keeps crapping some resolutions here, with the old 98xt+atitool 0.24 that never happened...

well, anyway, keep up the good work!! i can finally set my clocks higher than 550/540 and use the find max... lol

[Athlonman]

Well, I decided to not use ATITool's or ATI's auto clock settings so I made two profiles 2D Mode and 3D Mode, since the default profile doesn't drop the VGPU voltages back, on my x1900xt. I load my 3D Mode profile, works great, load my 2D Mode profile, video gets all glitchy when I move my mouse. Load default profile and the glitchyness goes away. Kind of a pain...Is there something different going on loading the Default profile from other profiles...Is there any way to reset voltages in the default profile?

[cool_recep]

Cool_recep, the bug is don't run atitool right after the installation, restart the computer first. I had a couple of other bugs happen to me too because I didn't restart first after installing atitool, don't know why but restarting after install seems to fix a couple of them.

This is very interesting...when I install ATI tool and restart the PC a window shos up telling found new hardware....and the new hardware is ATITool driver....

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6655/atitoolny8.gif

[Immacolata]

Is that turkish?

[cool_recep]

yepp...if you need I can translate it...nevermind....I will start using Vista from now on...64 bit.....rocks...


today is going very slow....what about my bugs...where is the W1zzard..:D

[Losus_Deliosus]

This is very interesting...when I install ATI tool and restart the PC a window shos up telling found new hardware....and the new hardware is ATITool driver....

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6655/atitoolny8.gif

Is the proper version of the atitool driver being installed? Version 1.24, located in your system32\drivers folder under the name of atitool.sys, md5 of '7F7D2992069AABC80C2E744B4E676171'?

[cool_recep]

is there other verions?

[Concorde Rules]

Just got my HiS XT-X and im now in the process of overclocking it :D

Used B14 but it falls over with BF2.

However with B16 Im not sure what im supposed to do :p

Services are running, but do I save my 2D and 3D profiles? Or just set the clocks I want and apply? Same with voltages?


Cheers guys :)

[Neilsouth]

Any updates? :(

[Immacolata]

What do you think? That he would update and not post it? Stop making senseless spam bumps.

[Neilsouth]

What do you think? That he would update and not post it? Stop making senseless spam bumps.

wow nice attitude buddy , didn't get any sex from the wife lately? :rolleyes:

[gR3iF]

lol^^
dont blame each other xD
what a response

[W1zzard]

suspend means suspend.. the ati process will still be in your process list, but it will never get any cpu time

the atitool driver in device manager is completely normal. but after a reboot it should not get detected, the installer should install it automatically

[Python4]

My first post so lets try.

I just bought a new Sapphire 1900gt 256mb the new cooler on it. I was trying to overclock it with atitool.
Everything works in prebeta3 very well reached 570/840 (from 513/657) stock voltage no crashes no problems what so ever with atitool ,but I am a bit confused :banghead: :

1. I can't adjust voltages, I don't even have the option in the setting to adjust it/can someone tell me why and how to enable it/.

2. I was thinikig that there is 2d /3d mode change, but my card doesnt change clocks, it just runs on 513/657 al the time 2d and 3d. /rivatunner monitoring and atitool/ with no mods just clean install of winXP :twitch: .

3. A bit offtopic - saved bios with atiwinflash, opened in rabit 2.1 to check what core i have /for possible unlocking to XT/ but raBit writes
version/PN: 113-B04202-101
Description: B04201 BIOS
Device ID 724B - Radeon X1900 series (Unknown)
SubSystem ID:0B12
SubVendor ID:1002
So i have no idea what core it is xl, pro or le :confused: .
Bios is attached.

And I have to say very good job W1zzard on atitool it is a nice piece of software for overclocking, thanks for the efffort :respect: .

[BarboneNet]

suspend means suspend.. the ati process will still be in your process list, but it will never get any cpu time

the atitool driver in device manager is completely normal. but after a reboot it should not get detected, the installer should install it automatically

Hi W1zzard........i have a request for the new ati tool.....Can you insert an option for load 2profile in crossfire configurations???

Thank you very much;)

[Slater]

Or have fan settings saved in profiles and automatically applied :)

[luismxc]

Hello

I've just tried beta 16 R3 on my sapphire x1800 gto, and when i try to set any speed, the monitor displays strange artifacts, and then the system crashes (i must press reset).

Hope this information helps

Thanx.

[pt]

Hello

I've just tried beta 16 R3 on my sapphire x1800 gto, and when i try to set any speed, the monitor displays strange artifacts, and then the system crashes (i must press reset).

Hope this information helps

Thanx.

it didn't happened on my power color x1800gto, i can overclock it with no artifacts, could it be something else?

[luismxc]

it didn't happened on my power color x1800gto, i can overclock it with no artifacts, could it be something else?

Nope...i don't think so... but neither beta 14 worked very well... i didn't had access to the voltages... and sometimes my system would crash when it changed the mem and vpu clocks. Only when i changed them.. im now using rivatuner with no problem but i would prefer to use atitool :(

[BarboneNet]

Hi W1zzard........i have a request for the new ati tool.....Can you insert an option for load 2profile in crossfire configurations???

Thank you very much;)

:respect: :respect: :respect:

[KennyT772]

Or have fan settings saved in profiles and automatically applied :)

its already there. goto the fan screen, set the speeds u want, then click save to (whatever profile u want)

[Marioace]

i was using pre beta16 rel3 in my X1800XT and trying to oc the system hang up and need to press reset button.

[Gooseone]

I have an X1900XT 256 mb.
I can set 3dclocks but i have to set 3d voltages manually.
Also i don't know if my card's mem is weak or if it is Atitool but my mem won't budge a mere
10 mHz.
After one reboot my computer finds Atitool to be hardware:twitch:
Asking for drivers for new found hardware..Atitool !?!?
Don't think it's my Windows but can't do a clean install atm.
This is on WinXP SP2 with cat 6.8.
Keep up the good work Wizz ?!
Can't you get some info out of the programs Ati made for X1XXX overclocking like Overclocker
and WinClk.

[lane]

Problem with voltage set.
I set the clock to 792/900, but with this clock speed i need use voltage 1.575/2.25/2.25/1.503, so iset the voltage first, and when i set the speed, the screen corrupt.. this is due to the voltage is not apply and this make crash the GPU.
a settings to change in ATI tool pre beta 25.16?
No prob with the 25.14, i use it allways cause it seems the more proper for OC at this day, ( just let the soft disable the service, set the voltage, speed and all run fine.)

[W1zzard]

all ati applications use the driver to set the clocks.
refer to http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=150061&postcount=107 for a list of issues with that

[ZenZimZaliben]

I have a x1900xtx...I just upgraded my Motherboard from a DFI NF4 Ultra-D to a DFI CFX3200. On the NF4 I used ATITool B14, set 2 profiles for 2d and 3d mode, and all was good. OC'd like a dream. Was Pushing 14,100 in 3dMark05.

Well B14 doesn't like the CFX3200 at all. So I tried B15 and B16. Currently I am using B15 and it works...sorta. I can OC the Core, but the RAM stops at 792Mhz...No matter what I try. But at least it does OC the core. However it will not go Higher the 743Mhz.

On my old board using B14 I could hit 770Mhz/840Mhz.

Using B16. It appears to Overclock the card, however after benching it with/without ATItool I see 0 improvement in benchmarks. SO while it looks like I am getting an awesome OC in all actuallity it is doing what appears to be nothing.

I also setup 2d and 3d profiles, and when it launches 3d mode it plays a chime sound. It seems to always detect 3d mode propely.

B16 will not load my Voltage options that I have set for 3d profile. It loads default voltages for 3d mode based off of ATI driver, but not the increased voltage that I would like.

Guess thats it.

[SPHERE]

I have a x1900xtx...I just upgraded my Motherboard from a DFI NF4 Ultra-D to a DFI CFX3200. On the NF4 I used ATITool B14, set 2 profiles for 2d and 3d mode, and all was good. OC'd like a dream. Was Pushing 14,100 in 3dMark05.

Well B14 doesn't like the CFX3200 at all. So I tried B15 and B16. Currently I am using B15 and it works...sorta. I can OC the Core, but the RAM stops at 792Mhz...No matter what I try. But at least it does OC the core. However it will not go Higher the 743Mhz.

On my old board using B14 I could hit 770Mhz/840Mhz.

Using B16. It appears to Overclock the card, however after benching it with/without ATItool I see 0 improvement in benchmarks. SO while it looks like I am getting an awesome OC in all actuallity it is doing what appears to be nothing.

I also setup 2d and 3d profiles, and when it launches 3d mode it plays a chime sound. It seems to always detect 3d mode propely.

B16 will not load my Voltage options that I have set for 3d profile. It loads default voltages for 3d mode based off of ATI driver, but not the increased voltage that I would like.

Guess thats it.
try messing with that option for auto mem timing under "setings/x1000/" see if that lets you up the mem more

[ZenZimZaliben]

I will give that a try. I did play with those settings a little and am pretty sure I told it to not use the timings provided by the driver.

[WingMan]

I've recently bought an HIS x1800GTO, yesterday I modded it to 16 pipes and commenced the overclocking.

At first I tried to use ATi Tools 0.25 Beta 15, but no matter what it didn't let me change clocks, everytime I put "Set Clocks" it went back to stock values.

So, I downloaded Beta 16 and it did the job. Release 16 works great for me, it allows to control FAN, Clocks and Voltages. I'm very happy with it and very proud for you Wizzard.

My VGA threw 6500 points at 3DMark05, now that I oced it I got 9100 points :)
520/500 -> 715/750

Thanks again.

P.D: Oh, Wizzard... is there a little chance that you could save Voltage and Fan changes into the profiles? Because for a card like mine, overclocking it without changing vcore and vmem will result in a system hang-up.

[lane]

all ati applications use the driver to set the clocks.
refer to http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=150061&postcount=107 for a list of issues with that


Ok thanks.. so is there a possibility if i disable manuallythe 2 services ( ATi hotkeypoller and ATi Smart) i can set the voltage and clock speed like with the 25.14, using the 2D clock and voltage?

@ ZenZimZaliben,

I have no prob at all for use the 25.14 on the CFX3200, just need choose the right peripheric first, cause it choose first the chipset of ATI. I bench at ~800/900 without prob under H20. 1.575/2.25/2.25/1.503V.
Just let the ATi tool disable the services it self at start, or if you encounter prob, do it manually in the adminstrator tools / services.

[Haste]

Does anyone know how the ati2evxx works ? Where does it take the frequencies and the voltages from ? If it reads the BIOS values then how do I update the BIOS to set my own 2D/3D frequency/voltages(all 4 voltages) and fan control ?

[BlueKnight]

Sorry man, but i don't like this method used in in beta16...or i am a stupid..or i don't understand how use this new version..

first...i create a new profile which i use for game called "Game", whit my x1800xt at 650/770 Mhz..not so high;

second i open tivatuner graph for register effective frequency...


When i start a game and then exit i see by the graphs that in the game frequncy return to 625/750 as default and when i exit they go to 600/700 and in some strange case at 475/600.


I should i use this Beta 16 for the frequency if they are imposed by the drivers and these are no blocked ad in past?!?!

Bye

[ZenZimZaliben]

Lane - "I have no prob at all for use the 25.14 on the CFX3200, just need choose the right peripheric first,"

What does that mean?? Peripheric??