x1900xt people

[Seany1212]

i have on order a x1900xt, i need to know what to expect from the card as the one i had was a 9800SE, so anyone who has a x1900xt, what do you get with it e.g. on CS:S, BF2, rome TW, 3dmark, etc.can it run those on maximum settings and such. just want to know what to expect for the amount i paid

[technicks]

I don't know the scores. But i do now that with your card you can play everything on max settings. I have the X1900GT 256 mb, and i can run most games on max settings. Only games like Oblivion not. I asume that you have the X1900Xt 512 mb. That will make the difference. Also the extra pipes and shaders i think.
Great card.:toast:

[Changis]

well, if you have an old 1800+ cpu or something, don't expect games to run smoothely.. you need quite a new CPU to run alongside theese cards

[Seany1212]

will 3800+ x2 do?

[Lt_JWS]

Yup i had a 3800X2 for a while with my X1900XT worked great :D, i play CSS @ stock and get over 180FPS score on the stress test with all in game settings maxxed @ 1440x900, 4xAA, 16xAF, Your in for alittle of a speed increase lol

[Seany1212]

:twitch:, thanks for info

[trog100]

"I asume that you have the X1900Xt 512 mb. That will make the difference."

no it wont.. in most cases the 256 card u have will go just as well..

nice to be proved wrong sometimes.. my overclocked 1900xtx 512 wont play oblivion at max settings either.. he he

in spite of what most folks "assume" 256 is still good enough..

trog

ps.. not counting the "gt" factor here just the amount of memory.. never noticed that..

[x800professor]

"I asume that you have the X1900Xt 512 mb. That will make the difference."

no it wont.. in most cases the 256 card u have will go just as well..

nice to be proved wrong sometimes.. my overclocked 1900xtx 512 wont play oblivion at max settings either.. he he

in spite of what most folks "assume" 256 is still good enough..

trog

ps.. not counting the "gt" factor here just the amount of memory.. never noticed that..

The x1900XT is powerful enough to use more than 256. Anything weaker than a 7800GT doesn't need more than 256, but the X1900XT can use it. It will make a difference in games like Half Life 2 and FEAR on MAX settings. Now, a 512MB 7600GS is useless. So is a X1600PRO with 512MB.

http://www.pureoverclock.com/article33-5.html

You can see that a 7800GT, which is much weaker than an x1900XT, can utilize more than 256 megs. Now, it doesn't make a huge difference, but it does make a difference. As far as oblivion goes, you can’t max out absolutely everything on any card or multi-card system in existence. It will cripple ANYTHING while outside on those settings. However, it will still look amazing with an x1900GT, XT, XTX, regardless of whether it has 256 or 512.

[i_am_mustang_man]

oh man! 9800 --> x1900xt? that's gonna rip majorly! you are going to love it!

pretty much i am just seconding what everyone else is saying, it will be awesome

also, if you oc that x2 (you should get 2.6ghz i bet, most 3800+x2 do) you will be rocking so hard! good luck, have fun, and keep us posted!

[savor_of_filth]

Anything weaker than a 7800GT doesn't need more than 256,Now, a 512MB 7600GS is useless. So is a X1600PRO with 512MB.

geforce 4 mx 4000 512mb??:)

[trog100]

"The x1900XT is powerful enough to use more than 256. Anything weaker than a 7800GT doesn't need more than 256, but the X1900XT can use it. It will make a difference in games like Half Life 2 and FEAR on MAX settings."

only at totally unplayable resolutions.. at playable ones it dosnt.. upping frame rates from 12 to 13 at 2040 x 1536 aint the real world now is it... he he

trog

[x800professor]

"The x1900XT is powerful enough to use more than 256. Anything weaker than a 7800GT doesn't need more than 256, but the X1900XT can use it. It will make a difference in games like Half Life 2 and FEAR on MAX settings."

only at totally unplayable resolutions.. at playable ones it dosnt.. upping frame rates from 12 to 13 at 2040 x 1536 aint the real world now is it... he he

trog

256MB: 12.9 fps
512MB: 24.6 fps

That's more than 1fps.

[KennyT772]

256MB: 12.9 fps
512MB: 24.6 fps

That's more than 1fps.

ur getting this from where?

[trog100]

yep.. from where..

trog

[KennyT772]

looking at those numbers they seem very linear... there is hardly a difference between 256/512 same as there was barly a difference between 128/256 a few years ago.

if you have over a gig of system ram 256/512 makes little difference. with a gig at ultra settings and a 256mb card you have a smaller chunk of ram left over for the game itself verses having that extra 256mb available on card. few games make effective use of 512, its mainly used as short term storage.

[ARTOSOFT]

The x1900XT is powerful enough to use more than 256. Anything weaker than a 7800GT doesn't need more than 256, but the X1900XT can use it. It will make a difference in games like Half Life 2 and FEAR on MAX settings. Now, a 512MB 7600GS is useless. So is a X1600PRO with 512MB.
You are right. But for x1600pro, if the 512MB card is only USD20 more expensive than 256MB card, it is worth to get 512MB card, IMHO.

Regards,
Arto.

[x800professor]

ur getting this from where?

The article I had posted in this forum.

http://www.pureoverclock.com/article33-5.html

"Now we are reaching the same levels of memory usage as HL2 in 2048x1536 with everything maxed out. Though the results show huge performance differences they simply cannot fully describe what I felt while playing the game. With 256Mb it was absolutely unplayable with stuttering at every turn, sometimes the screen would not refresh for half a second. This was blatant cache thrashing in action. In comparison the 512Mb card was behaving as it should, no stuttering at all. The average frame rate was low and it wasn’t very enjoyable, but it was a thousand times better than with the 256Mb card. The average frame rates for both cards are as follows:

256MB: 12.9 fps
512MB: 24.6 fps"

As far as the x1600PRO goes, it will simply never use that much texture memory. It will display a slide show long before that, but if it makes you feel better, it's your money.

[KennyT772]

HL2 in 2048x1536 with everything maxed out

who in their right mind would game on a 30" lcd on a x1600?

[stealthfighter]

Who in thier right mind would HAVE a 30" lcd?? Damn, I would be truning my head o.o

[x800professor]

Who in thier right mind would HAVE a 30" lcd?? Damn, I would be truning my head o.o

Someone with waaay too much money in their pocket.

[trog100]

back to what was said.. no gain at all except with silly unplayable resolutions..

i know with fear for example.. my 128 meg laptop plays okay up to the resolution the card can handle.. my x850 does the same with 256 meg.. my 1900xtx the same with 512 meg..

the limit in all cases is the power of the card not the amount of memory it carries.. adding more memory to any of the cards wont make the sightest difference.. and i am pretty sure my 1900 card would be happy with 256.. 30 inch lcds not being in the ballpark.. he he he

i cant even run my widescreen 20 inch at its native 1680 x 1050 with fear and the likes..

trog

[Tatty_One]

Don't want to hack all you 1900** owners off but on my 256MB x1800xt @740/900 I genuinly play Oblivion on MAX everything @1280x1024 as smooth as a babies bottie, well i say smooth, that may have a different meaning to each of us, to be precise 36-46FPS on average, no stuttering, pauses, jumps or slowdowns.

However, for some very strange reason, 1800XT's seem to be particularily good at Oblivion and I do think I read a review that in real world benching the 1800 did beat the 1900 in that game only.

[x800professor]

back to what was said.. no gain at all except with silly unplayable resolutions..

i know with fear for example.. my 128 meg laptop plays okay up to the resolution the card can handle.. my x850 does the same with 256 meg.. my 1900xtx the same with 512 meg..

the limit in all cases is the power of the card not the amount of memory it carries.. adding more memory to any of the cards wont make the sightest difference.. and i am pretty sure my 1900 card would be happy with 256.. 30 inch lcds not being in the ballpark.. he he he

i cant even run my widescreen 20 inch at its native 1680 x 1050 with fear and the likes..

trog

The only real way to tell what is holding back your card would be to measure video memory usage. On most cards on most settings, it won't even hit 256. On the very top end cards, it would go past that on very, very high settings. That's rather surprising that you can't handle FEAR at 1680 x 1050. I wonder if that is true of all X1900XTXs?

[KennyT772]

fear is hard game on hardware. end of story.

i play almost every game maxed at 1280*1024 or on high settings at 1600*1200.

[Tatty_One]

fear is hard game on hardware. end of story.

i play almost every game maxed at 1280*1024 or on high settings at 1600*1200.

Ditto me too!

[Tatty_One]

proffessor, do you have fear? It makes oblivion seem like sonic the hedgehog! (Ok a slight exaggeration there I admit) I have always beleived, that in basic terms, there is not much point in common real world resolutions such as 1280x1024 in having a 1900xt coupled with a Semperon 2800, however if you own a 15 inch LCD no matter what CPU you have there is absolutely no point in having a high end card as at 1024x768 resolutions or below a low end card will be more than enough to run most games.

We all know tho to a certain degree the story is not always as simple as that so my rule of thumb is that if you own the very best high end card you should compliment it with a fast processor but generally in games the GPU is going to be more important than the CPU, unfortunatly there are quite a few people out there with very fast conroe's for example and x700 or 6600 series cards who are wondering why they cant get decent framerates/detail in fear and oblivion, shame really.

[x800professor]

proffessor, do you have fear? It makes oblivion seem like sonic the hedgehog! (Ok a slight exaggeration there I admit) I have always beleived, that in basic terms, there is not much point in common real world resolutions such as 1280x1024 in having a 1900xt coupled with a Semperon 2800, however if you own a 15 inch LCD no matter what CPU you have there is absolutely no point in having a high end card as at 1024x768 resolutions or below a low end card will be more than enough to run most games.

We all know tho to a certain degree the story is not always as simple as that so my rule of thumb is that if you own the very best high end card you should compliment it with a fast processor but generally in games the GPU is going to be more important than the CPU, unfortunatly there are quite a few people out there with very fast conroe's for example and x700 or 6600 series cards who are wondering why they cant get decent framerates/detail in fear and oblivion, shame really.


I have fear. I run it on an x800GTO@16pp. It runs it at 1024x768. It is a system killer, that's certain, but I think oblivion, outdoors, with grass all the way up and everything else is even worse. I have a 22" CRT. In other words, 2048x1536 if I want to. I hate LCDs. The only good point in them is the fact that they are thin. I don’t like the color they produce or the fact that they have a native resolution. My system is mostly pieced together from what I could afford at the time. Personally, I would love to have a X1950XTX…but I think I’m going to hold off on buying that when I put together my Conroe system in around a month. I’ll just buy something like a 7600GT and then wait for DX10.

The problem I see is people spend all their money on either the CPU or the GPU. If you buy an X6800, and then have no money left for a decent GPU, you should have just purchased an E6600 and a higher end video card because I really would never recommend spending the extra money on the X6800. You can overclock the crap out of any Conroe and have plenty of money left over for a decent GPU if you don’t buy the extreme edition. Well, as long as you have the right motherboard. The ASUS DH Deluxe seems to be about the best board out there, but it’s about as easy to find as a half sasquatch, half unicorn hybrid. Anyway, if you do have a Conroe, your CPU will NOT hold you back, so yes, you should have a good GPU too. Then again, four core processors are coming out soon…I wonder how cheap Conroes will be then?