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zekrahminator
10-13-2006, 02:20 AM
AMD has turned to NVIDIA to create the chipset for it's 4x4 technology. The as-of-yet unannounced chipset will run with two PCI Express x16 slots and two PCI Express x8 slots. AMD's 4x4 technology is going to be AMD's first entry into the quad-core market, and is very powerful. A test system was running two maxed-out games on two separate monitors, while running a high definition video, encoding another one, and streaming a game video in Internet Explorer. Even with all that load, the 4x4 system ran both game windows smoothly. When AMD releases 4x4 processors, all but one model is expected to be under $1000.

Source: TheINQ (http://www.theinq.com/default.aspx?article=35049)

bebobsa
10-13-2006, 02:26 AM
WTF!!!!!:eek:

With that power even Intel would pee in their pants.

Alec§taar
10-13-2006, 02:34 AM
"MuLTi-TaSkInG MeGaToN PoWeR!!!" ˛...

:)

* It's truly, the 'wave of the future'... (in BOTH hardware & software!)

APK

P.S.=> I have the Os/2 2.1 promo page from February 1993 from OS/2 Magazine, Premiere Issue on my wall here, & it says:

"Can your PC pass this simple screen test?"

(& the 5th test is: "Play Multimedia files, format a disk, & format a spreadsheet @ the same time?")

Heh, & there was a time when THIS was considered "revolutionary"... & because of the footwork done in Os/2 by IBM & Microsoft @ the earlier 32-bit OS level for PC's via threads & preemptive multitasking?

Well, We have this now & take it for granted on Windows NT-based OS' (32-bit preemptive multitasking)...

(Because Windows 9x (16-bit/32-bit) could do it, but only "ok" imo @ least, & forget it on Windows 3.x (16-bit cooperative multitasking))... apk

15th Warlock
10-13-2006, 02:36 AM
WTF!!!!!:eek:

With that power even Intel would pee in their pants.

Have you seen the preliminary Kentsfield Core 2 Quadro benchmarks? I think Intel has all its bases covered.

DaMulta
10-13-2006, 02:42 AM
The 580 is the chip to be looking for with ATi 4x4. I know the guy that came up with the 4x4 idea, and have seen a Nvidia 4x4 setup. Very cool stuff indeed.

tvdang7
10-13-2006, 03:23 AM
Have you seen the preliminary Kentsfield Core 2 Quadro benchmarks? I think Intel has all its bases covered.


those are benches tho. im not saying they wont be as good just id take real life over benches.

they got some real life stuff and it sounds good. 2 games...2 dvds and streaming a download...... dang not bad. must need seperate hardrives tho im sure.

Polaris573
10-13-2006, 03:54 AM
I find it more interesting that AMD isn't terminating their partnership with Nvidia.

xylomn
10-13-2006, 04:08 AM
I find it more interesting that AMD isn't terminating their partnership with Nvidia.

exactly what I was thinking.. with amd now having ati I would have thought they would have went with one of their own.

demonbrawn
10-13-2006, 04:20 AM
Diddo. Why not show off some of the latest cards under your own belt? Seems like an opportunity lost to display not only your cpu lineup, but also the video card lineup you just bought...

bornfree
10-13-2006, 07:00 AM
Actually I think AMD/ATI will do just fine in both the integrated and high end graphics segments. ATI currently has a definite advantage and existing revenue streams with integrated graphics that AMD can leverage with Turion laptops. You can be certain that ATI's 4 x 4 will perform every bit as well as Nvidia's. Nvidia probably just has some lead time advantage so that is why you are hearing about it now.

randomperson21
10-13-2006, 07:05 AM
bejebus this is gonna be expensive tho. about $1k x 2 for cpu's, maybe another $200 for a top of the line mobo. plus sli... you're looking at more than $3500 there for a decent 4x4 setup.

but think of the raw POWER!

JC316
10-13-2006, 07:06 AM
I find it ironic that AMD/ATI is using Nvidia, ATI's only rival. So now ATI's rival is actually working with it.

pt
10-13-2006, 10:40 AM
I find it ironic that AMD/ATI is using Nvidia, ATI's only rival. So now ATI's rival is actually working with it.

pheraps AMD conviced Nvidia to make their chipsets crossfire compatibe :D
pheraps they've done some black mail "if you chipsets aren't crossfire capable we're going to terminate relations with you and your products" :)

DanTheBanjoman
10-13-2006, 10:50 AM
I'm not that impressed. My current Xeons can already play Q4 perfectly while encoding DivX and burning a DVD. That's only two 5 year old cores.

Mad-Matt
10-13-2006, 01:21 PM
"MuLTi-TaSkInG MeGaToN PoWeR!!!" ˛...

the 5th test is: "Play Multimedia files, format a disk, & format a spreadsheet @ the same time?")

Heh, & there was a time when THIS was considered "revolutionary"... & because of the footwork done in Os/2 by IBM & Microsoft @ the earlier 32-bit OS level for PC's via threads & preemptive multitasking?

Well, We have this now & take it for granted on Windows NT-based OS' (32-bit preemptive multitasking)...

(Because Windows 9x (16-bit/32-bit) could do it, but only "ok" imo @ least, & forget it on Windows 3.x (16-bit cooperative multitasking))... apk

I was enjoying preemtive multitasking on the Amiga long before any windows/Os2 thaught about atempting to do it :)

And windows still cant do it right, I mean knocking the cpu usage meter upto 80+% for using the scroll wheel ...something aint right ;)

DanTheBanjoman
10-13-2006, 01:24 PM
I was enjoying preemtive multitasking on the Amiga long before any windows/Os2 thaught about atempting to do it :)

And windows still cant do it right, I mean knocking the cpu usage meter upto 80+% for using the scroll wheel ...something aint right ;)

Amiga uses seperate specialised chips for everything. That's a huge part of it's power.
Amiga is still alive as well, runs on very expensive PowerPC boards and at least up to 2 years ago or so they developped the OS.

v-zero
10-13-2006, 01:31 PM
Maybe they are using nVidia because they are able to offer SLi with the system... Lack of SLi is hurting Core2...

DanTheBanjoman
10-13-2006, 01:34 PM
Maybe they are using nVidia because they are able to offer SLi with the system... Lack of SLi is hurting Core2...

Perhaps in a marketting point of view, besides that it doesn't really matter. Most people don't use SLI.

Alec§taar
10-13-2006, 01:52 PM
I was enjoying preemtive multitasking on the Amiga long before any windows/Os2 thaught about atempting to do it :)

I believe it, & I was using it on UNIX, VMS, &/or IBM midrange OS' (System 34/36/38 - Os400) before that was around too, but I kept it strictly PC based OS here as much as possible that used the x86 instruction set.

Mainly regarding what we use today, in Windows largely (and where the groundwork was done & laid for today's Windows based OS, which we MOSTLY use (especially gamers) on PC's).

And windows still cant do it right, I mean knocking the cpu usage meter upto 80+% for using the scroll wheel ...something aint right ;)

Sounds like a driver issue on your end if you see THAT MUCH CPU use!

See, I just monitored mine (you got me curious here is why) via taskmgr.exe's "PERFORMANCE" tab, & it never went above 2% CPU usage on either of my dualcores here.

APK

Alec§taar
10-13-2006, 02:05 PM
Amiga uses seperate specialised chips for everything. That's a huge part of it's power.
Amiga is still alive as well, runs on very expensive PowerPC boards and at least up to 2 years ago or so they developped the OS.

That is how I tried to "structure" my system here (only my SOUND is "pure-CPU driven" because I use 'onboard sound')...

I.E.-> I tried to offload as much as possible to dedicated sub-processors (GPU = video of course, but I also did this on my Promise Technology 128mb Caching disk I/O controller, because it has an INTEL CPU onboard (500mhz) unit & a good driver (filtering/intercepting type no doubt)):

# Intel IOP333 XScale I/O processor (500 MHz)
# 128MB DDR ECC on-board controller cache

(So it 'offloads' the SYSTEM MOBO CPU from doing Disk I/O related tasks via redirecting interrupts most folks' systems handle via mobo CPU, to the controller's onboard Intel one))...

* This use of dedicated sub-processors/ASICS results in MORE CPU available for applications processes, not running hardwares... much like the Amiga (and the other OS' + their hardware designs I mention above in ESPECIALLY the As/400, which used dedicated processors & backplanes far before PC's did)...

APK

P.S.=> UltraScSi's been doing it for years on their controller cards (Adaptec is one I know that does on relatively "higher-end" ScSi controllers, not ALL have this)!

I even STILL HAVE an ISA + VLB later version of TekRam caching controller(s) from back as far as 1994 iirc when I got them on a VLB 486 here (had ISA setup w/ same stuff almost in it too before it), that have their own I/O cpu onboard them!

Via their driver, they use redirecting Disk I/O based interrupt requests to their onboard CPU for it, saving general/mobo system CPU cycles for other tasks... apk

RickyG512
10-13-2006, 03:00 PM
wat do you get for $1000

1 cpu
2 cpu
2 cpu plus mobo

what ?