X800 Pro VIVO to XT PE Bios Mod

[Urlyin]

Hmmm so I guess my Saphire x800Pro VIVO PCI-E fell from the sky as a gift from the god . . . hehe

Neways you may talk about it some more over the next 23 pages but I dont wana look over it and it was an old post so im sure you updated it. Anyhow I have -=Saphire x800Pro VIVO PCI-E=- just wondering what the best bios flash would be for it, its running the r423 chip type 450/475 12 pipes. LEmmy know :) thanks a lot guys

On the next page ...
Well you're right about them being made. Their just not available yet, read this review for some good info http://firingsquad.com/hardware/ati_x800_x600_xt/ .

ASUS doesn't put anything different on their boards than any other mfg (other than PCB color and HSF mfg specific). There is a difference between an XT and a XT Platium Edition, about 20mhz I believe. All XT's come with VIVO (ati rage theater chip)

Which brand might depend on the bundled software and price. Each card preforms differently. ASUS usually has a good software bundle but is priced 20 to 50 dollars more than say a Powercolor with a limited bundle or why get the ASUS if you already have the software. ASUS does throw in a videocam as well...

Also don't buy a high end card if you're running a low end system. The card will never reach it's potential...

...long ...long thread .... first backup your original one and I haven't looked lately to see what BIOS W1z had for the PCI-E cards. But I'd try the latest ATI BIOS first, it may be you'll need to test a couple to which one works best for your card ... update to my last quote is that ASUS does use a different temp chip in some of it's cards. Maybe W1zzard can verify that ...

[Unregistered]

Is there a 500/500 or 520/520 ATI X800xt bios out?
I looked in the collection but only have one listed under pci-e

[Urlyin]

Is there a 500/500 or 520/520 ATI X800xt bios out?
I looked in the collection but only have one listed under pci-e

AGP XT 500/500 BIOS under Connect3D and Sapphire ...

[Unregistered]

I recently bought a retail sapphire X800 pro vivo card and attempted to flash the bios.After about six different bios files i found this post and decided to remove my heatsink.Imagine my shock when i seen that the laser cut was on my card which contains the yellow vivo plug.I guess they caght on and nixed anyone buying the newer pro vivos to activate the extra pipes.So if you are having trouble this is probably why.

[Ropey]

I bought a Sapphire x800 pro VIVO with 1.6 ms Samsung Ram. Flashing went well with recognition as XT PE, flawless at stock speed and mem 520/560.

I had that problem when I used the Doom3 fix 4.9 cat beta drivers... try the 4.8 cat drivers... it worked for me ... also I thought the ATI BIOS worked the best...
The two unknown devices are:

1. ATI WDM Rage Theatre Video NSP

and

2. ATI WDM Specialized MVD Codec

I let windows search the install Sapphire disk and it found the proper drivers.

Is there a way to get a AGP card to post after accidenly clearing the BIOS and having the machine restart on you? I have put in a PCI card set it to the default display int he bios but when I put the X800 in there the comptuer will not POST it just cont to beep, any idea's? I know once I get it post I will be fine and able to flash it again
You need to clear the cmos and remove the AGP card leaving the video card in the PCI Slot. Then go into the bios and set to boot to PCI first rather than AGP. Then install the AGP card again and startup. The bios will initialize the PCI video card first and you will be able then to reflash the bios of the agp card.

Regards and thanks for the clear method to give me this rocking Mod :)

Ropey

[Urlyin]

Ropey ... those are for the VIVO, use drivercleaner3 to uninstall the ATI drivers and then install the latest cat drivers from ATI ...

[Unregistered]

when i type flashrom -s 0 oldbios.bin for save the old bios , it says that the command or the filename is wrong!!!!

[Urlyin]

when i type flashrom -s 0 oldbios.bin for save the old bios , it says that the command or the filename is wrong!!!!

Review the page here (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/34), make sure it's a zero and not the letter 0 .... which flashrom tool are you using?

[codestrom]

Sorry to post a bit off topic, but this is clearly where advanced users are looking. I have Dell 5150 with ATi mobility 9000 m9.. atiflash, flashrom and atitool all dump 0 byte rom file. I'm guessing this is a Dell/ATi locking the rom issue. Dos prompt > debug does give output, but not savvy enough to create a .rom file from it. Normally, I use Linux and have a spare HD for my laptop and trying to get some permanate boost from my video card. *Unaware of any way to do this from xorg or ati closed Linux drivers. Thanks thanks and sorry for off topic. It doesn't make any difference if I'm booting off USB device? Device ID is 4c66

[Unregistered]

I have a PCI-E Club 3D X800 Pro ViVo.Which BIOS should i use for the 16 pipes Mod? I`ve tried with the ATI X800 XT BIOS for PCI-E but it don`t work!!!!!!!
(when you can , answer in German)

[Urlyin]

I have a PCI-E Club 3D X800 Pro ViVo.Which BIOS should i use for the 16 pipes Mod? I`ve tried with the ATI X800 XT BIOS for PCI-E but it don`t work!!!!!!!
(when you can , answer in German)

Sorry... I don't know German. But in what way did it not work... A lot of the PCI-E Pro VIVO have laser cuts and the BIOS flash does not enable 16 pipes ...

[Unregistered]

are the new sapphire x800 pro vivos 8xagp

*Manufacturer SKU:
100580VIVO

are they laser cut or uhh no?
and what is the percentage rate of flashing rate to xt pe?

i plan on getting one. i know it's kinda late in the game. i'm just wondering if its too late and that sapphire has blocked it. i tried reading lotsa forums :-/ havent found any answers.. so any reply would be great

[Unregistered]

sorry abotu the mess.. just wanted to add.. to flash and obtain same power/speeds as x800 xt pe, should i get a new heatsink/fan or is the current one good

[Urlyin]

sorry abotu the mess.. just wanted to add.. to flash and obtain same power/speeds as x800 xt pe, should i get a new heatsink/fan or is the current one good

Your chance are still good that it will flash to a XT at 500/500 may need a vmod to get it to a PE .. should be okay with the stock fan with the XT PE speeds

[uselessnanhai]

volt mod.. is using the pencil thing?

[Urlyin]

volt mod.. is using the pencil thing?
Pencil or Varible resistor

[jammnrose]

i am almost certain that i do not have the VIVO card...no yellow connector...but are there any markings on the outside of the box that would tell me otherwise??
i also read somwhere in this thread that non-vivo cards made by ati themselves do not have the cut... is this true? is there a way to verify this w/o taking heatsink off?
otherwise i would have to do a hard mod i which i dont think is a good idea....right?

thanks

[Urlyin]

i am almost certain that i do not have the VIVO card...no yellow connector...but are there any markings on the outside of the box that would tell me otherwise??
i also read somwhere in this thread that non-vivo cards made by ati themselves do not have the cut... is this true? is there a way to verify this w/o taking heatsink off?
otherwise i would have to do a hard mod i which i dont think is a good idea....right?

thanks

Look at the back of the card to see if there a Rage Theater Chip... you can save your original BIOS try the flash and if it doesn't work flash back .. no it will void the warranty and it's only a slim chance it will work ...

[zaptone]

Are the current PCI-e x800 PRO VIVO's still moddable by doing this?

[Mr. Howard]

Hi.... I Tried to flash my bios with modified flashrom and stuff on my powercolor x800 pro vivo!!!
It worked.... Windows spotted a x800 xt pe after flashing:)

But when I opened Atitool I saw that my active pipelines where still 12 and not 16!!!

I Did it the way you told us to do it W1zzard but I do not have 16 pipelines yet!!!

Please help....

btw!
The Flashing went very well and no error messages or something like that!!
Everything exept unlocking the pipelines went successful!!

Please help me....:(

[Urlyin]

Hi.... I Tried to flash my bios with modified flashrom and stuff on my powercolor x800 pro vivo!!!
It worked.... Windows spotted a x800 xt pe after flashing:)

But when I opened Atitool I saw that my active pipelines where still 12 and not 16!!!

I Did it the way you told us to do it W1zzard but I do not have 16 pipelines yet!!!

Please help....

btw!
The Flashing went very well and no error messages or something like that!!
Everything exept unlocking the pipelines went successful!!

Please help me....:(

Mr. Howard is your card a PCI-E?

[Mr. Howard]

Nope... My x800pro vivo card is not a pci-e its agp!!

Bought it for about 5 months ago!!

[Mr. Howard]

Btw..

Do I have to use gigabyte bios perhaps??

[Mr. Pipi]

hi,
first:i´m from germany and so i hope u excuse for my english.
well, i got a sapphire x 800 pro vivo and flashed my bios to different xt pe bios from diffrent producer like sapphire,connect 3d etc. benchmarks like aquamark 3 or 3d mark 05 work without problems but when starting far cry, in some levels i got a bluescreen or freeze.and when i check this problem with ati tool "scan for artifacts" there appears the first error after 0.0 sec. so i flashed my old bios again and checked for my max core and mem.it increased up to 530/570 and perhaps it would increas more and more if i didn´t stop the test.so i thougt that my x 800 could run stable with a xt pe bios and so i´ve checked out an other bios. i ´ve chosen the power colour xt pe bios.far cry runs now stable and there doesn´t appear a bluescreen yet. but when testing with ati tool "scan for artifacts" there still come errors, but now after 3.5 min. a little improvement. so i increased the fan speed up to 100%.
and then the error appears after 7.5 min.i have the ac ati silencer 4.
could anyone help me with my problem. i want the scan test run for infinity min without problems.
so what could i do without flashing a xt or pro bios, i want the best matching xt pe bios for my x 800.
so i ´d like to thank u for ur answers

[EC]

I just got a sapphire x800 pro vivo card to replace my 9800 pro. I removed my 9800 pro from my mb and put the x800 in and started up. I loaded up ati tool and tested core and memory at xt speeds without any problems. I then flashed the bios to ATI x800xt pe. When I check the pipes in ati tool, I saw that it was now reporting 16 pipes, however when I started the scan for artifacts test, my computer froze immediately. I rebooted and decided to start up quake3 to see if it would have any problems, it froze immediately and I got an ATI GPU error after a few seconds. I flashed it back to x800 pro bios and have been running it for a couple of days without any problems. I just can't figure out why I can't do anything after flashing to xt. I tried the regular xt bios and had the same problem. I flash the xt pe bios again and underclocked the core and mem back to pro speeds. same lockup problem. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

[Urlyin]

Btw..

Do I have to use gigabyte bios perhaps??

If the Flashrom by W1zzard didn't do it... I am not sure the Gigabyte will ... It's worth a try though ... I don't recall any of the AGP cards having the lazer cut and having it for 5 months as well ... have you tried to uninstall and reinstall the ATI cats? It should have worked, does your card have the Rage Theater chip on the back? ...

[Urlyin]

I just got a sapphire x800 pro vivo card to replace my 9800 pro. I removed my 9800 pro from my mb and put the x800 in and started up. I loaded up ati tool and tested core and memory at xt speeds without any problems. I then flashed the bios to ATI x800xt pe. When I check the pipes in ati tool, I saw that it was now reporting 16 pipes, however when I started the scan for artifacts test, my computer froze immediately. I rebooted and decided to start up quake3 to see if it would have any problems, it froze immediately and I got an ATI GPU error after a few seconds. I flashed it back to x800 pro bios and have been running it for a couple of days without any problems. I just can't figure out why I can't do anything after flashing to xt. I tried the regular xt bios and had the same problem. I flash the xt pe bios again and underclocked the core and mem back to pro speeds. same lockup problem. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

With the Original BIOS do some testing and see if the card can handle the XT or XT PE speeds ... I have yet to see a Pro VIVO not handle at least the XT speeds of 500/500 ... or like you said run the XT PE BIOS at the Pro speeds ...

[EC]

I reloaded the original bios and had not problems at either xt or xt pe speeds. I loaded the XT PE bios and I can't start up the ati tool artifact test at any speed, pro speeds or less even. I loaded the new ATI drivers that came out yesterday and it didn't improve my problem. I'm at a loss here. I haven't seen or heard of anyone having a problem with this mod. Any additional help would be much appreciated.

[Urlyin]

I reloaded the original bios and had not problems at either xt or xt pe speeds. I loaded the XT PE bios and I can't start up the ati tool artifact test at any speed, pro speeds or less even. I loaded the new ATI drivers that came out yesterday and it didn't improve my problem. I'm at a loss here. I haven't seen or heard of anyone having a problem with this mod. Any additional help would be much appreciated.

Your right I have not heard of anyone having issues like that either... Which BIOS have you tried? ATI XT PE and one of the XT BIOS ... are you using the flashrom tool from W1zzard? First use the empty.bin BIOS and then flash it to a Sapphire XT 500/500 bios or try the 16pipe Pro VIVO BIOS ... IMPORTANT that you have the Sapphire and empty BIOS on the disk to flash the Sapphire BIOS right after you use the empty.bin BIOS ...

[Unregistered]

who got also a sapphire x 800 or know sth about my problem?thx

[Mr. Pipi]

sorry,it was me who asked that question.i forgot to log in.

[Unregistered]

If the Flashrom by W1zzard didn't do it... I am not sure the Gigabyte will ... It's worth a try though ... I don't recall any of the AGP cards having the lazer cut and having it for 5 months as well ... have you tried to uninstall and reinstall the ATI cats? It should have worked, does your card have the Rage Theater chip on the back? ...


I have tried the softmodded drivers but with no success... and my card have the Rage Theater chip on the back!!!
I will try to uninstall my drivers and try the originals!!!!

btw...
I have a powercolor x800pro agp card!!!!
Does that make any sense to you???

[LouieV]

I bought one of BB ATI X800 Pros being sold by COMPUSA. I started this business by flashing the card with the X800 Pro VIVO/16P bios to enable the 4 extra pipelines. No problems, worked great.

Well after running artifact tests on my card for 5-6 hours using ATITool set at 520/560. I haven't received any artifacts/errors. So I decided to flash to the ATI X800 XT/PE bios and like before, the flash went perfect, no problems encountered.

After re-installing my video drivers, the card is recognized as a X800 XT/PE and the drivers load with no problem.

Video card temps are at 35C (idle) and 54C (at load) after 2 hours of playing UT2004 and Brothers in Arms. Also, after 3 more hours of testing, temps are staying at 53C/54C (at load) and I haven't received any errors with any other game or program I've tried.

From what I've read in this thread, 54C is well within the acceptable heat range for this video card at load. Will someone please correct me, if I am not understanding this right.

I used the modified flashrom 237 and ATI XT/PE Bios files that are linked at the beginning of this thread. I not 100% sure about the temps, but so far, I think this has worked great.

A big thanks to Wizzard for sharing your modified flashrom tool & knowledge.

[djbbenn]

use modified flashrom and flash your original bios back to get 12p

So w1zzard you can flash back 12p? because i did the mod and my card artifacts like crazy now!! :eek: I tried to go back to orginal just by flashing the old bios but the 16p are still enabled... :confused: plz help!! thx

[chrisnic0]

hi guys was looking for a little help im a newbie so bear with me.
Ive got a gigabyte x800 pro vivo, and i have 16 already enabled out of the box.
I was wondering what i do now in terms of flashing the bios. (ive never done this b4)
Also can u use other companys bios over gigabyte as the gigabyte X800 XT only runs at 500 500 and i was looking for 520 560?
thanks for ur help
Nico

[Unregistered]

hi guys was looking for a little help im a newbie so bear with me.
Ive got a gigabyte x800 pro vivo, and i have 16 already enabled out of the box.
I was wondering what i do now in terms of flashing the bios. (ive never done this b4)
Also can u use other companys bios over gigabyte as the gigabyte X800 XT only runs at 500 500 and i was looking for 520 560?
thanks for ur help
Nico


If u have the 16p already enabled u don;t have to flash the bios. u can download atitool and just overclock to those speeds. Hope it helps :)

Dan

[Unregistered]

x800 pro sapphire flashed to ati x800 16p ati tool shows 16 pipelines. will post back after a few hours of hl2.

[Unregistered]

Ok it all looks stable no artifacts :D

[Unregistered]

x800 pro sapphire flashed to ati x800 16p ati tool shows 16 pipelines. will post back after a few hours of hl2.

Is that AGP or PCI-E? Thanks.

[Unregistered]

I have an MSI x800 PRO VIVO AGP card. I've confirmed that it has the Samsung 1.6ns memory. Unfortunately, it begins to show artifacts in ATITool a bit lower than 560 on the memory clock.

Is my best option to use the ATI x800 PRO VIVO 16p BIOS and then overclock from there?

Or, would I want to use the MSI x800 XT PE BIOS and underclock from there?

Also, how do I save my current BIOS, or is that an option inlcuded in the modified flashrom utility?

Thanks!

[Unregistered]

I have an MSI x800 PRO VIVO AGP card. I've confirmed that it has the Samsung 1.6ns memory. Unfortunately, it begins to show artifacts in ATITool a bit lower than 560 on the memory clock.

Is my best option to use the ATI x800 PRO VIVO 16p BIOS and then overclock from there?

Or, would I want to use the MSI x800 XT PE BIOS and underclock from there?

Also, how do I save my current BIOS, or is that an option inlcuded in the modified flashrom utility?

Thanks!

Answered my own questions with a little more research. I dumped the old BIOS with the atiflash utility. Then, I flashed it with the MSI x800 XT PE BIOS. As expected, I had a few artifacts at 520/560, but still stable. So, I just reflashed my old BIOS without using the "-newbios" command line with atiflash. Now, I've got the original OEM BIOS and 16 pipelines enabled. I can overclock from the factory defaults, now.

The only odd thing is that my CPU fan maxes out on bootup now. I have to run corecenter and apply CoolnQuiet to get it to auto-adjust. I wouldn't have expected a video BIOS flash to mess with the system fan speeds... Guess I'll have to investigate that, now. I never used to run CoreCenter at all, but now I have to click apply for C&Q everytime I restart the machine if I don't want all the fans maxed constantly.

[intoruble]

Hi I have a Sapphire X800pro which i modded to X800XT PE about 3 months ago, I also added an ATI4silencer/cooler to the card, which has run happily for about 3/4 months at stock speeds.. now however the card has started crashing or the screen has started to break down into either big purple or yellow blocks and sometimes a white grid all over the screen, after about half an hours use - i'm being told that there is an error with my Graphics accelerator, and that VPU is resetting the card. Is my card burnt out? or can this be fixed

Thanks in advance..

[introuble]

got it sorted thanks for all your help you kind people...

[Unregistered]

I just got a x800 pro vivo pci-e today. Just wondering where I can download a x800 XT/PE PCI-E bios.

[nixus]

I just got a x800 pro vivo pci-e today. Just wondering where I can download a x800 XT/PE PCI-E bios.There is a link on the upper left side of this site's home page (www.techpowerup.com) to a list of ATI bios files.

Does anyone know if this can be done on an x850 Pro Vivo? I have one (PCI-E) but I have not had any success in getting the last pipe quad unlocked. I'd just like to know if there is any point in continuing to try. If not - fine - but if there is a chance then I will continue to research it.

Any comments or advice would be appreciated.

[I love ATI]

so, can someone tell me which brands have X800 Pros PCI-Express cards that don't have laser cut pipelines? I hear a lot of them do and I don't want to get one that I wouldn't be able to flash.

[Unregistered]

I just got a x800 pro vivo pci-e today. Just wondering where I can download a x800 XT/PE PCI-E bios.

I couldn't find one ether man! I finally found a Asus one, I uploaded it to my geocities site here. Heres the link:

http://www.geocities.com/kraytdragon2003/AsusX800XTPEPCIe256MBSamsung-Rev01.zip

Good luck man and let me know how it works. BTW, what brand is your card?

[nixus]

I couldn't find one ether man! I finally found a Asus one, I uploaded it to my geocities site here. Heres the link:

http://www.geocities.com/kraytdragon2003/AsusX800XTPEPCIe256MBSamsung-Rev01.zip

Good luck man and let me know how it works. BTW, what brand is your card?There are x800 xt pci-e bios files on this site!
http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/

Do a search (ctrl-f) for x800 xt - there are at least two. I stopped searching after that because I don't need it. You can also find some at mvtech.net.

[Unregistered]

no, I was talking about finding a X800XT PE, you know, the Platinum Edition. There aren't any officail PCI-E versions of this card. Thats why it took me forever to find a BIOS for one. I think someone just took a X800XT BIOS, changed the clock speeds and what it shows up as in Windows. Trust me, search newegg.com and you won't find a X800XT PE PCI-Express card.

[nixus]

I'm not sure what you mean by "official" - if you mean you cannot find them at the sites of manufacturers then perhaps you are correct, but I believe these at this link are dumps contributed by users with those cards:
http://www.mvktech.net/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=26&func=selectfolder&filecatid=8

[schwill]

I have a ati x800 pro vivo, and flashed the bios to x800 xt pe, everything goes good. ati tool shows im runnin 16 pipes, fps are way up, but I am getting some ugly vertical lines all over my monitor. Uninstalled all drivers, lines go away, reinstall drivers, lines come back. Tried several different bios from the site, same problem. The lines are no where to be seen when i am running 12 pipes at pro and xt speeds. Is this a problem with the drivers, the card, the bios, or what?

[schwill]

update, the lines are only visible when i am on the windows desktop. When I load a game (I used Risk II), the lines dissappear, and the graphics work flawlessly. This is sounding more and more like a problem with the drivers I used, which are new stock catalyst drivers. I have uniinstalled and reinstalled the drivers in every imaginabable order, but still no success. I have just reinstalled windows and have not been able to connect to the internet to download sp2 or direct x c yet, could this be contributing to the problems? ANyone have any ideas?

[gR3iF]

hm u have to have dx 9 to let the driver work,
sp2 isnt necessary but it includes dx 9 so install it fast

[djbbenn]

I have a ati x800 pro vivo, and flashed the bios to x800 xt pe, everything goes good. ati tool shows im runnin 16 pipes, fps are way up, but I am getting some ugly vertical lines all over my monitor. Uninstalled all drivers, lines go away, reinstall drivers, lines come back. Tried several different bios from the site, same problem. The lines are no where to be seen when i am running 12 pipes at pro and xt speeds. Is this a problem with the drivers, the card, the bios, or what?

I had a very simular problem. The mod seemed to work great. Nothing looked wrong, Atitool had no errors and temps were good. But as soon as I played a game I got the checkard board effect. I tried uninstalling the drivers. I played a game with just windows drivers and the blocks were gone. But it didn't work with the offical drivers installed. Put it back to 12p at XT PE speeds and it worked great. Must be deffective pipes for me, but it sounds to be the opposite for you were you get it in windows and not games. :confused:

-Dan

[gR3iF]

for him it might be better :D or ati was just doing some kind og thing?
maybe try dna or omega driver just to see if they are gone.

[Unregistered]

wait, and you guys are all using the PCI-Express version?

[schwill]

I tried the omega drivers, and still the same problem. I am assuming that I got a card with bad pipes. My x800 is agp(in response to previous post)

[djbbenn]

Same here, got AGP.

-Dan

[dnile]

Well, I can confirm another success with this mod - I got a Powercolor X800 pro vivo, and after running the various 3DMarks, I flashed the bios using the modified flashrom program. I used the Powercolor X800XT-PE bios, just because my card was Powercolor to begin with. After I restarted and reinstalled drivers, I opened ATITool to confirm, and now my card is running at X800XT-PE speeds (520/560) with 16 active pipelives. The highest temperature it's ever been to is 67C, and that's at 66% fan speed, using the automatic settings. All this with stock cooling. Before I bought it, I had some concerns about the number of people having to buy 3rd party coolers, but I looked at pictures of the X800 pro vivo and the X800XT-PE, and they use exactly the same cooling anyway, at least the Powercolor ones do. I figured then, that with a bit of luck, my card should run at XT-PE speeds with stock cooling - and it did, so I guess I was just lucky.

Good luck to anyone else who tries this mod.

[nixus]

Was that AGP or PCI-E?

[gR3iF]

agp stands for advanced graphic port
and pci express is an port for a new type of cards which gives u a theoretic performance boost

[Eigner]

Hi
My new power Color X800 pro can't run at 560mhz on mem - only 552mhz, so I have to just do the 16pixel line flash. How do I do that?
1) how/which files do I need to make the boot disk for WinXP SP2
2) Which flash software?
3) Which flash file?

Thanks.

[djbbenn]

Hi
My new power Color X800 pro can't run at 560mhz on mem - only 552mhz, so I have to just do the 16pixel line flash. How do I do that?
1) how/which files do I need to make the boot disk for WinXP SP2
2) Which flash software?
3) Which flash file?

Thanks.

Well if you flash the XT PE bios you can just clock it down a bit. Or you can use the X800pro 16p bios. For a bootdisk I used drdflash.exe (http://motherboards.mbarron.net/download/) . For the flashrom (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/100/images/flashrom16p.zip) . And for the bios, you can either use th XT PE bios or the X800pro16p bios found here (http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/) . If you use the XT PE bios makesure you turn the mem clocks down if your card can't handle it. Flashing instructions are here (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/34) . And save you orginal bios first. Is your card a VIVO? Becuase it has to be to unlock the pipes. Hope it helps.

-Dan

[gR3iF]

or unlock the pipes manuall

[djbbenn]

You mean hardmod gR3iF?

-Dan

[gR3iF]

jup i did one yesterday night (:S) i was bored and so i tried but it worked

[djbbenn]

Nice. :D

-Dan

[Unregistered]

jup i did one yesterday night (:S) i was bored and so i tried but it worked
Cool... Can you briefly describe your method? Did you do any cutting or just connect the dots?

Do you know anything about the x800se cards as far as unlocking pipes go? They come with 8 enabled but should have 16 and seem to ramp up well when overclocked.

[Eigner]

Hi.. its a vivo. ill try your guide in a moment - hopefully it will work

[Unregistered]

Well if you flash the XT PE bios you can just clock it down a bit. Or you can use the X800pro 16p bios. For a bootdisk I used drdflash.exe (http://motherboards.mbarron.net/download/) . For the flashrom (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/100/images/flashrom16p.zip) . And for the bios, you can either use th XT PE bios or the X800pro16p bios found here (http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/) . If you use the XT PE bios makesure you turn the mem clocks down if your card can't handle it. Flashing instructions are here (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/34) . And save you orginal bios first. Is your card a VIVO? Becuase it has to be to unlock the pipes. Hope it helps.

-Dan

Thx.. It took about 3 mins and now I have 16Pixel pipelines. great! and the core clock speeds are atleast xt - unfortunately my mems could only go to 552mhz - just 8mhz from xt pe - but what the **** its all right anyway :D

[djbbenn]

That extra 8MHz wont make any difference to what you see. It might give your mem another .5Gb/s bandwidth, but you wont notice it. The pipes are the main thing and where you get them, your set. :D

-Dan

[dnile]

My card is an AGP card, Nixus - I managed to get an increase of about 1200 in 3DMark05 after doing the mod. At the moment I'm getting about 6000, but that's because I can't overclock my processor and run the XT-PE at the same time - need a beefier power supply.

[Aksu]

i initially had some difficulty with the proper bios (I have a Asus X800 Pro TVD) - but after trying the ati bios, and uninstalling all drivers with driver cleaner and installing the latest catalyst 5.4 - everything is running smoothly - im waiting for my ati silencer rev 4 to see if i can up the frequenciess - ive had about a 1000 increase in 3d mark 05.

I would like to whoever came up with this and those who keep on giving advice - you guys are awesome - peace.

[nixus]

i initially had some difficulty with the proper bios (I have a Asus X800 Pro TVD) - but after trying the ati bios, and uninstalling all drivers with driver cleaner and installing the latest catalyst 5.4 - everything is running smoothly - im waiting for my ati silencer rev 4 to see if i can up the frequenciess - ive had about a 1000 increase in 3d mark 05.

I would like to whoever came up with this and those who keep on giving advice - you guys are awesome - peace.AGP or PCI-Express? I'm curious about the success rate for pci-e since that's the kind of board I have.

Thanks!

[Unregistered]

Hi..

I have just bought a Gecube x800PRO Vivo AGP card. It clocked just fine, 520/553 aproxx.

I have tried to falsh the bios to ATI 16 pipes, no clocking and now with ATI x800xt pe bios.

HL2/CSS, doom3, warhammer 40000 runs great, but I get artifacs in 3dmark 2001 SE, and ATI tool. They are like squares in the background in ATI tool, looks nasty. What can i do?? Do I have broken pipes?? My card doesn't complaine running x800 pro 520/560, in any test??

Please help me. :)

[djbbenn]

Sounds like you have defective pipes. The only why to get rid is to go back to the orginal bios. Sometimes...omega drivers will clear it up, but is doubtfull. I had the same problem and I had to go back to 12p :(

-Dan

[Azrael_NZ]

Well, I bought a GeCube X800 Pro VIVO with the entire purpose of ramping it up to XT PE. I bought a Thermaltake Giant 3 for my old videocard, so I was pretty sure it would run at XT speeds. After the flash, everything went fine. 16p, around 40% speed boost. But it soon started artifacting. Most noticible in ATITool, it was kind like a grid of flashing white pixels. But all my games were handling it fine, only being able to see them when you look really really hard. But Vampire: Bloodlines hated it. It looked terrible, lagged like crazy, and then crashed. Reverting back to my Original BIOS it all went fine. I tried a number of XT PE BIOS's (3 Stock ATI ones, 2 GeCube ones, and a Gigabyte one) to no avail. I also tried the ATi Pro VIVO 16p one, but it still rooted up. I figured that I had dodgy pipes, and was fucked. But maybe not. For no good real reason, I tried other X800 Pro VIVO 12p Bios's (An ATi one and a Gigabyte one) and got the exact same problems as with the 16p ones, except ATItool only found 12p, so I started thinking what the problem was, and figured that it had to be a problem with the chip, or something...

And how do i tell if its 1.6ns ram? All the online specs I found just say GDDR3, nothing about the ns specs. Dont tell me I have to rip off the stupidly large hsf again, the shitloads of thermal paste just go everywhere.

So, any thoughts oh masters of the uber ATi hack-y ness?

[nixus]

And how do i tell if its 1.6ns ram?You look on the ram chips. Look for a number ending in either gc20 or gc16. This will indicate 2.0ns or 1.6ns ram.

[Unregistered]

After reading the thread I'm still a little confused. Has anyone been able to get the 16 pipes to work with the PCI-X versions of the card? I'm looking at the SAPPHIRE 100600L-Red Radeon X800PRO 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI-Express x16 Video Card - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102466) and am curious if this card has the laser cuts or not. Actually it's almost certain I'm going to get the card regardless as it fits my needs/budget right now, and I'm only really interested in the 16 pipes and not the higher speeds, but I'm wondering what (if anything) to expect.

[Urlyin]

Well, I bought a GeCube X800 Pro VIVO with the entire purpose of ramping it up to XT PE. I bought a Thermaltake Giant 3 for my old videocard, so I was pretty sure it would run at XT speeds. After the flash, everything went fine. 16p, around 40% speed boost. But it soon started artifacting. Most noticible in ATITool, it was kind like a grid of flashing white pixels. But all my games were handling it fine, only being able to see them when you look really really hard. But Vampire: Bloodlines hated it. It looked terrible, lagged like crazy, and then crashed. Reverting back to my Original BIOS it all went fine. I tried a number of XT PE BIOS's (3 Stock ATI ones, 2 GeCube ones, and a Gigabyte one) to no avail. I also tried the ATi Pro VIVO 16p one, but it still rooted up. I figured that I had dodgy pipes, and was fucked. But maybe not. For no good real reason, I tried other X800 Pro VIVO 12p Bios's (An ATi one and a Gigabyte one) and got the exact same problems as with the 16p ones, except ATItool only found 12p, so I started thinking what the problem was, and figured that it had to be a problem with the chip, or something...

And how do i tell if its 1.6ns ram? All the online specs I found just say GDDR3, nothing about the ns specs. Dont tell me I have to rip off the stupidly large hsf again, the shitloads of thermal paste just go everywhere.

So, any thoughts oh masters of the uber ATi hack-y ness?


Try one of the XT 500/500 BIOS ....

[Urlyin]

After reading the thread I'm still a little confused. Has anyone been able to get the 16 pipes to work with the PCI-X versions of the card? I'm looking at the SAPPHIRE 100600L-Red Radeon X800PRO 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 VIVO PCI-Express x16 Video Card - Retail (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102466) and am curious if this card has the laser cuts or not. Actually it's almost certain I'm going to get the card regardless as it fits my needs/budget right now, and I'm only really interested in the 16 pipes and not the higher speeds, but I'm wondering what (if anything) to expect.

Most of the X800 Pro VIVO PCI-E have had the lazer cut .... :mad:

[Azrael_NZ]

Try one of the XT 500/500 BIOS ....

The only ATi 500/500 one I could find was an PCI-E card. I have AGP...

But I did find a few others, preferring to go with a Gigabyte one and a Powercolor one. Not too sure If them shall work right, But I shall get back to yall.

[Azrael_NZ]

Well it still artifacted. The artifacting in ATiTool is kinda hard to describe, so I took a screenshot. http://noobie4567.95mb.com/images/artifacting1.jpg

But I made a pretty imporant discovery. Final Fantasy 7 goes fine. No biggie. But Diablo 2 in DirectDraw goes fine too. Switching to D3D it immediatly roots itself. So maybe my RAM is 1.6ns (I'm not really all that sure, but everything goes fine). But, does DirectDraw actually use the Pixel Pipes??? I'm just not too sure...

Oh, took a screenie of Morrowind's water effects, in which you can see the artifacting only slightly. Apart from Vampire: Bloodlines, pretty much every D3D game looks like this. V:B rooted itself really badly. As did D2...

http://noobie4567.95mb.com/images/artifacting2.jpg

[Azrael_NZ]

Stupid fucking thing

http://noobie4567.95mb.com/images/artifacting1.jpg

http://noobie4567.95mb.com/images/artifacting1.jpg

http://noobie4567.95mb.com/images/artifacting1.jpg

[Azrael_NZ]

Oh, just fucking great. Mods!?!?!?!

[Unregistered]

Oh, just fucking great. Mods!?!?!?!

What do you need mods for? lol

[Azrael_NZ]

To delete my fucked up posts. Thats why.

[Unregistered]

Ok, I have tried flashing my powercolor x800 pro vivo, but it refuses to flash. No error messages or anything, it just goes through the procedure, but doesnt change the bios. I run the -l command and it came up serial rom locked, does this have anything to do with it. I am using the modified flashrom from w11zard and bioses from this site. Any help would be much appreciated.
thanks guys - pete...

[Unregistered]

nevermind got it sorted. 16 glorious pipes, 0 artifacts! thanks guys
pete...

[wolfran]

I have a question regarding this bios flashing thing.
Well, I just bought a MSI X800pro VIVO and have successfully enabled the 16 pipelines by using the ATI X800pro VIVO 16P bios with no problems whatsoever. I'm very grateful to W1zzard for this.

My question: is it better to leave the bios with this ATI bios or should I flash it back to the original MSI bios while still enabling the 16 pipelines?
My worry is that bios is the one that driving the functions and features of a hardware. Now if I keep this ATI bios will I lose image quality or some other functions/features that MSI has but not ATI?

[Unregistered]

Well, I bought a GeCube X800 Pro VIVO with the entire purpose of ramping it up to XT PE. I bought a Thermaltake Giant 3 for my old videocard, so I was pretty sure it would run at XT speeds. After the flash, everything went fine. 16p, around 40% speed boost. But it soon started artifacting. Most noticible in ATITool, it was kind like a grid of flashing white pixels. But all my games were handling it fine, only being able to see them when you look really really hard. But Vampire: Bloodlines hated it. It looked terrible, lagged like crazy, and then crashed. Reverting back to my Original BIOS it all went fine. I tried a number of XT PE BIOS's (3 Stock ATI ones, 2 GeCube ones, and a Gigabyte one) to no avail. I also tried the ATi Pro VIVO 16p one, but it still rooted up. I figured that I had dodgy pipes, and was fucked. But maybe not. For no good real reason, I tried other X800 Pro VIVO 12p Bios's (An ATi one and a Gigabyte one) and got the exact same problems as with the 16p ones, except ATItool only found 12p, so I started thinking what the problem was, and figured that it had to be a problem with the chip, or something...

And how do i tell if its 1.6ns ram? All the online specs I found just say GDDR3, nothing about the ns specs. Dont tell me I have to rip off the stupidly large hsf again, the shitloads of thermal paste just go everywhere.

So, any thoughts oh masters of the uber ATi hack-y ness?

There is no guarantee that the cards the downloaded bios files came from and your card have the same block of four pipelines faulty, those 12p bioses are probably switching four of the good pipelines off. For various reasons I was not able to back up my Gecubes bios, and am now having to find one that switches the right four pipelines off just in case I need to revert to 12p later, although all the games that I have run including Bloodlines are fine.

[Cisko]

did someone succed the hardmod on laser cut ??? and get the 16 pipe stable on a sapphire x800pro vivo pci-e ?

[Unregistered]

es geht nur mit einer Pro _VIVO_
ja es geht nur um das bios das du drauf flashst

Hi W1zzard.
Scheine irgendwie zu blöde zu sein,meiner Sapphire X800Pro Toxic 256 die 4 zusätzlichen pipelines "einzuhauchen!!?
Darf ich Dich mal bitten mir,mit Links,zu den Dateien die ich dafür brauche und evtl.zu ner deutschen Anleitung wie es geht,zu antworten??Ich möchte NUR die 16 Pipelines nutzen können und nicht die Karte hochtakten oder ne XT draus machen,da die Karte ja einiges selber hochtaktet!
Ich wäre Dir sehr dankbar dafür!

Gruß
Der Unregistered User "Bueller"

[Unregistered]

es geht nur mit einer Pro _VIVO_
ja es geht nur um das bios das du drauf flashst

Hi W1zzard.
Scheine irgendwie zu blöde zu sein,meiner Sapphire X800Pro VIVO Toxic 256 die 4 zusätzlichen pipelines "einzuhauchen!!?
Darf ich Dich mal bitten mir,mit Links,zu den Dateien die ich dafür brauche und evtl.zu ner deutschen Anleitung wie es geht,zu antworten??Ich möchte NUR die 16 Pipelines nutzen können und nicht die Karte hochtakten oder ne XT draus machen,da die Karte ja einiges selber hochtaktet!
Ich wäre Dir sehr dankbar dafür!

Gruß
Der Unregistered User "Bueller"

[obvious]

I've seen reports that the x800 pro's now have the fourth quad (pipelines 13-16) burned out to prevent modding but don't know if this is just a rumour so I wonder if any of the current PCI-E lineup at newegg would be worth trying?

http://tinyurl.com/8eo6g (newegg.com)

Thanks !

[nixus]

I got one and I haven't had any luck, either with soft or hard mod. I won't be buying anymore x800 pro pci-e vivos in hopes of that mod. Card's great though - runs xt pe bios stable @ 520/560.

[Azrael_NZ]

There is no guarantee that the cards the downloaded bios files came from and your card have the same block of four pipelines faulty, those 12p bioses are probably switching four of the good pipelines off. For various reasons I was not able to back up my Gecubes bios, and am now having to find one that switches the right four pipelines off just in case I need to revert to 12p later, although all the games that I have run including Bloodlines are fine.

So I'm fucked then...
Great. Oh, and I know that the card can handle XT PE speeds. Cranked both GPU and RAM voltages up to 650MHz each, and ATiTool only artifacted a little after about 10 mins.

[obvious]

Just got a Sapphire X800 Pro VIVO and it has this core :-

http://tinyurl.com/9pjfx

It doesn't look good :(

[Unregistered]

So I'm fucked then...
Great. Oh, and I know that the card can handle XT PE speeds. Cranked both GPU and RAM voltages up to 650MHz each, and ATiTool only artifacted a little after about 10 mins.
I d/led all the x800 pro vivo agp bioses and tried then one after the other (Gigabyte and ASUS required a repair reinstall of the ATI control panel) and found on the ninth try a bios that gave me 12 pipelines with no artifacting. I don't know how many times a card can be safely flashed but it should be quite a few.
I would assume that doing a second atiflash (with a bios from the cards manufacturer), this time without -newbios would allow the manufacturer data to be reset without the pipelines being affected by the second flash.

[Azrael_NZ]

I d/led all the x800 pro vivo agp bioses and tried then one after the other (Gigabyte and ASUS required a repair reinstall of the ATI control panel) and found on the ninth try a bios that gave me 12 pipelines with no artifacting. I don't know how many times a card can be safely flashed but it should be quite a few.
I would assume that doing a second atiflash (with a bios from the cards manufacturer), this time without -newbios would allow the manufacturer data to be reset without the pipelines being affected by the second flash.

No no no. I have a 12 pipe GeCube X800 Pro VIVO bios on it now, the one it came with. It goes fine. But I'm still after 16p...

[Unregistered]

Hi,

ich hoffe ihr könnt mir ein paar Tipps geben.

Also ich habe gerade meine HIS X800Pro IceQII nach der anleitung auf die XT Platinum geflasht.
Nun habe ich 16 Pipelines. Allerdings bekomme ich abundzu kleine Bildfehler.
Woran könnte das liegen ?

Also ich habe den Coretakt vor dem Flashen getestet und ATITool sagt maximal 583.20 MHZ möglich
also über 100 mhz mehr als normal. Den Speicher habe ich nur auf 500MHZ getestet lief aber ohne
probs. Wenn ich nun den Speichertakt und den Coretakt runtersetzte habe ich immernoch ein paar
kleine Bildfehler. Einer is immer am "Start"-Button in Windows.

THX für die Hilfe

und klasse anleitung !

[Unregistered]

So,

also ich habe nun mal getestst woher die Bildfehler kommen könnten.
Also wenn ich den 16 Pipelines flash mit x800 Takt flashe habe ich auch Bildfehler.
Also müssten die Bildfehler doch an den 4 extra-Pipelines liegen oder ?
Oder kann es daran liegen, dass ich die Karte auf einem 860mhz Duron 256MD Sdram
und 2x AGP-Board betreibe ?

Also hier die getesten maximalen Taktraten ohne Hänger.

Core: ca. 555 MHZ
Mamory: ca. 550 MHZ

Besteht für mich noch eine Hofnung, dass ich meine Karte mit dem XT flash (muss nicht der PE sein)
zu 16 Pipelines flashen kann ohne Bildfehler zu bekommen ?

THX !

[Sled Dog]

Hmmm, I should really register... ;-)

I am choosing between an x800 pro and an x800 XL. I can can the pro for 350$ CAN. That versus the 450 needed for the XL! SO that's why this whole modding thing appeals to me. Its a sapphire that I can get so its reassuring to know that there are others who have done it with sucess! So. I checked out the BIOS collection here and there are no Sapphire XT PE for PCI-e. Where did y'all get yours???

Also in light of ATIs crossfire, does the driver recognize the Pro as a full blown XT PE? Like as in 100%? As in it doesn't know the difference???

Thanks very much... I should join this forum.

[orac07]

Cheers worked well on my GeCube 800pro .
The extra pipes were worth another 600 3D Mark 2005 bench points over the same speed pro .

[Azrael_NZ]

Cheers worked well on my GeCube 800pro .
The extra pipes were worth another 600 3D Mark 2005 bench points over the same speed pro .

What BIOS did you use, and did you have to do anything special? My GeCube X800pro refuses to work properly...

[Sled Dog]

OK, I've figured out my former question on my own, but thanks anyway... but still one really simple question...

When getting the new BIOS, does it matter what brand the BIOS is? For example, if I had a Sapphire x800 Pro VIVO, would it matter if I used an ASUS XT PE BIOS, or Powercolor XT PE BIOS, or HIS XT PE BIOS??? Just wondering this because their is no Sapphire x800 XT PE BIOS for PCI-e.

Thanks... just a "yes" or a "no" will do.

[Bruno_Ratnieks]

Hey guys,
ive read all the forums but i couldnt find people modding this board,
MSI VIVO PRO 256 VTD.

Following this steps,
Clean all drivers uninstalling and using driverclean
flash the bios with success (ive tried x800pro16.bin, gigabytex800xt.bin, atix800xt.bin) with success.
I restart the box.
Windows boot up in vga mode, then it ask for drivers (X800 XT Platinum Edition).. then ask for reboot
So I reboot, and during the boot process, on the windows logon, with good resolution (Win 2k SP4), the monitor turns off (led blinking), and the system hang..

The specs of the board: MSI RX800Pro 256-VTD, has the yellow connector and 1.6 ns Samsung memory.
Note: After the flash, in windows with standard VGA driver, ive look at AtiTOOL, shown the XT clocks (520/560) but in the pipelines shown 0 (zero).. this is show after the drivers are loaded only?

I rollback the bios flash to the backup, x800orig.bin and windows boot up again..

If YOU! can help me reply this thread or contact me by email/msn..

Email: sniffer@sniffer.net
MSN: brulacerda@hotmail.com

thanks,
Bruno Ratnieks

[Unregistered]

HI. I AM COMPLETLY NOOB wen it comes to most OCing. I am planning on building my own pc soon and im thinkin x800 pro vivo is the way to go. But seeing as i am noob i was wondering how hard it is to do this. How much experience i need. Is all i do to do with bios cuz on another forum at another site ppl said i had to souter stuff and be good with electrical stuff. Also what is "flashing" and "flashrom". Last thing, do i need the PSU watts of the x800 xt or can i have x800 pro's

[gR3iF]

buy a pcie x800xt :D

[Urlyin]

Hey guys,
ive read all the forums but i couldnt find people modding this board,
MSI VIVO PRO 256 VTD.

Following this steps,
Clean all drivers uninstalling and using driverclean
flash the bios with success (ive tried x800pro16.bin, gigabytex800xt.bin, atix800xt.bin) with success.
I restart the box.
Windows boot up in vga mode, then it ask for drivers (X800 XT Platinum Edition).. then ask for reboot
So I reboot, and during the boot process, on the windows logon, with good resolution (Win 2k SP4), the monitor turns off (led blinking), and the system hang..

The specs of the board: MSI RX800Pro 256-VTD, has the yellow connector and 1.6 ns Samsung memory.
Note: After the flash, in windows with standard VGA driver, ive look at AtiTOOL, shown the XT clocks (520/560) but in the pipelines shown 0 (zero).. this is show after the drivers are loaded only?

I rollback the bios flash to the backup, x800orig.bin and windows boot up again..

If YOU! can help me reply this thread or contact me by email/msn..

Email: sniffer@sniffer.net
MSN: brulacerda@hotmail.com

thanks,
Bruno Ratnieks

Bruno ... if's it a PCI-E card then it's more than likely has the lazer cut ... which means you'll not be able to open the pipes with a flash ..

[Dyno]

Hey guys can this crad be modded to 16 pipes?
Sapphire X800Pro Toxic 256MDDR AGP8X VIVO

The reason i ask is because it has other features that normal X800Pro's dont have.
If it will work should i use the ATI XTPE bios or Sapphire XTPE bios?

Developed for the enthusiast, Sapphire believes in empowering our family of hardcore tweak addicts by including a built-in calculated performance enhancements with the inclusion of the A.P.E. , TMR and Lethal Cooling technologies . The Automated Performance Enhancement (A.P.E.) allows for the optional increase of memory clock speed to pre-tested levels while maintaining the hardware's health.

Thanks for any help

[Urlyin]

Hey guys can this crad be modded to 16 pipes?
Sapphire X800Pro Toxic 256MDDR AGP8X VIVO

The reason i ask is because it has other features that normal X800Pro's dont have.
If it will work should i use the ATI XTPE bios or Sapphire XTPE bios?



Thanks for any help

Dyno... Most if not all of the AGP VIVO flashed to XT or XTPE .... I'd go with the ATI first but generally the mem settings are the main difference between the BIOS ... you may have to try more than one to find the one that works best for you card ... If you read through some of the threads there are post from members using BIOS editors that go more into the BIOS settings

[Azrael_NZ]

My AGP ViVo still refuses to go right, even though another guy bought the exact same card, and his goes fine....

[delas52]

whaT are my chances of getting a non lazer cut saphire x800pro vivo from newegg?? PCI.E.

[PCI-E Sadness]

Hi all,

I have tried and re-tried multiple bioses and hardmod attempts on my PCI-E X800Pro VIVO(Sapphire, was laser cut). I cannot get 16P. Has anyone got 16P on their PCI-E cards?

Have I spent the last 2 days trying for nothing?

Would love to hear people's experience with PCI-E!

[Dyno]

Succesfully flashed Sapphire Toxic X800 Pro to XT PE
Used sapphire bios and it works perfectly.

Very happy chap at the moment, so thanks W1zzard for the excellent guide

[SilentEcho]

I have been trying this I have the HIS x800 pro VIVO. I did everything right did driver cleaner, but when it reboots it doesnt automatically installs it says it cant find it, than I cancel that one and the next one pops up and installs the pro. I checked with ATITool and still have 12pipelines but with the high default clocks. Can anyone help me out on this?

[Unregistered (Help!)]

i did the flash and then tried to turn it back using empty bios and then put on the old bios like it said and it came up with an error, rebooted the pc and then it didn't recognise my graphics card

[celloman]

Thank you guys for good instructions. I got my connect3d x800 pro VIVO agp card modified by using the ATI x800pro vivo 16p -bios. Now everything works great and faster than before, but the noise from the fan almost vanished after the flash. To get both less noise and more pipes is fantastic, but i was just wondering whether the fan speed is meant to be this slow. Connect3d uses the default x800 fan, so shouldn't the fan rpm:s be same with both connect3d and ati bios?

[djbbenn]

i did the flash and then tried to turn it back using empty bios and then put on the old bios like it said and it came up with an error, rebooted the pc and then it didn't recognise my graphics card

Don't ever restart after doing the empty flash and then the other not working. Your probably going to need to do a blind flash or if you have a pci video card, you can set that up and see what your doing. Go here (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/34) and read the article down the bottem on how to recover form a bad flash.

-Dan

[Unregistered]

Just to say thankz for all the help that i got from the guide at the beggining of this thread, was really helpfull. I managed to flash my Connect3D X800 Pro VIVO to a XT PE. Not running at XT speeds tho as i prefere to run at pro stock speeds. Had a bit of bad expierence with the 9800 Pro flashed to a 9800 XT. The card just gave up eventually after a year running at XT speed. I just wanted to unlock the pipelines on the x800 pro, which unlocked first time with no problems. Also got the ATI silencer 4 and it works a treat.. current temp is 38C. On full load it goes to about 55C. I think thats pretty cool. Anywayz thankz all!!

[w167akm]

Hiya,
I just flashed my X800 PRO VIVO and have got bad picture: *Attached.

Have tried going back, but still same. (*still got 16 pipes enabled[U])
Have wiped and reinstalled: Catalyst 5.3 5.5 5.7. same
Have tried latest MB Bios. same
Have tried different GPU Bios'. same (saphire x800pro/x800xt/x800xtpe connect3D x800xtpe)
Have wiped+reinstalled Battlefield 2. same

I'm guessing I have faulty Extra pipelines.
all other games purfect. I cant get back to only 12 pipes. Accidently wiped Original backup bios.
Can you please help?
Does any1 have original Connect3D x800provivo Agp Bios?
Does any1 know how to restore original 12pipes?
Thanx All....Michal

[djbbenn]

Did you use the modified flashrom to go back to 12p?

-Dan

[w167akm]

YES / NO !!!

Yes got back to 12 pipes........
No, still got graphics problems????

1 Does any1 have any suggestions why I could have this graphics problem?
Even now that I have gone back to original Bios I am still having problems.

2 Do you think this rules out Bios issues ? and leaves me with hardware problem?
3 Is it possibly software? as it only happens in Battlefield 2.


Thanx Michal..................... :..(

[armzilla]

Long time reader, first time poster :D

I am out of luck! I cannot find Sapphire's X800 XT PE for pci express. I have the X800 pro vivo by sappire. I am reluctant to use the ati bios in fear of creating paperweight. Please recommend a course of action.

thanks,
arm

[djbbenn]

armzilla > Are your trying to flash a PCI-E card, if so, you have a very small chance of it working. Very few have suceeded with it. Just a heads up.

-Dan

[djbbenn]

YES / NO !!!

Yes got back to 12 pipes........
No, still got graphics problems????

1 Does any1 have any suggestions why I could have this graphics problem?
Even now that I have gone back to original Bios I am still having problems.

2 Do you think this rules out Bios issues ? and leaves me with hardware problem?
3 Is it possibly software? as it only happens in Battlefield 2.


Thanx Michal..................... :..(

Try reinstalling your drivers.

-Dan

[w167akm]

Hey Thanx Dan, I do appreciate the tips. But the Mofo card even after fresh wipe/install of drivers still has the problem!

The only thing left that I can think of is that even after a Flashrom back to original Pro Bios(12 pipes 450/475), the card still has a 210+ fps in ATItool. Originally it was 185fps. So this proves its not flashed back to Original x800 PRO VIVO Bios that it had. Maybe thats why it has ATRIFACTS at ANY speed I set it at.

Any Ideas Any1, plz Mike.......

[djbbenn]

What are your default clocks then at the moment?

-Dan

[w167akm]

12 pipes 450/475

[djbbenn]

One thing, don't use Atitool as a benchmark, the average FPS can change a lot on that program. If your card is reading as a X800PRO and the device ID is 4A49, then its back to the orginal. So this only does it in BF2 aswell? Do you get aritfacts in Atitool? Try reinstalling BF2.

-Dan

[w167akm]

Yeh m8, I get Artifacts in AtiTool at any speed I set it at. :( its funny coz when the cube is spinning it looks purfect, but when i press checking for artifacts key, it has exactly the same faults, in the same places on the fluffy cube picture every time.
I'm guessing that the card is damaged................

[djbbenn]

Hmm...doesn't sound to good. What kind of temps do you get?

-Dan

[w167akm]

I have tried cooling the card down with additional fans and it was deffo cold. So cant be that either.
Well at least it still works kindof.....could be worse. :(

[w167akm]

pic

[djbbenn]

That is defective pipes my friend. Thats called the checkard board effect. Cause by super tiling, certain parts aren't being rendered properly because of the defective pipes. You might have to flash an empty bios and then your orginal.

-Dan

[sin4me]

Ok, after reading this thread I was gonna see if I could get some opinions. Basically, I can pick up a ATI x800xl from my local BB for 249.99 on sale or I can get a refurbed Sapphire x800 pro vivo agp from newgg for 280. so my question, is it worth it to pay the extra money on a refurbed card (never bought a refurb before...) and try to flash it with the xt bios or just get the x800xl? i'm current running a 9800 pro 128mb that i have flashed to an xt. any thoughts/input/suggestions would be appreciated. thanks.

[gorber]

I just bought this card and it comes with 425/400 clock and only 4 pipelines. It is now overclocked to 571/598 but... how about those pipes?!?! Does it need a different bios mod than the usual VIVOs?

[Citrus Man]

Righto, first thanks for the guide, was nice and easy to follow. I now have a Connect 3D X800 Pro made into a X800 XT PE. However I have a few questions.

What would be the best option to use in ATITool for the fan settings? I'm using the stock cooler. I currently have it at 'try to keep GPU at 70 celsius'. Is that good?

Also, I have one of those generic 400W PSUs. Bad idea or will it be fine?

[3dconnect fella]

Interesting to hear some fellow users comments on this card.

I followed the guide, but my mem doesn't like it above 530, core is happy right up to 560 and beyond on stock cooling.

I installed xt Pe bios anyway with success. However I get artificing in Atitool, and if I enabled overdrive in drivers, all manner of strange things were happening.

Settled back to ATI pro vivo 16 bios and totally stable at 530/550 mem/core

How come some 3D connects are getting xt pe stable? Is it possible we have different memory chips? 1.6s or 2.0s? not samsung??

I have a crappy dell dimension 8300, which I believe has poor cooling properties? but card temps where in the 60 idle/ 70 load when testing in Atitool

I am happy with what I have (probably load xt bios 500/500 next) just curious as regards more successful 3d connect soft mods???

[djbbenn]

Righto, first thanks for the guide, was nice and easy to follow. I now have a Connect 3D X800 Pro made into a X800 XT PE. However I have a few questions.

What would be the best option to use in ATITool for the fan settings? I'm using the stock cooler. I currently have it at 'try to keep GPU at 70 celsius'. Is that good?

Also, I have one of those generic 400W PSUs. Bad idea or will it be fine?


Your better off using dynamic fan settings. So have it something like above 30C-50%, 40C-55%, 50C-65%. Something like that. And once you get to say 60C, put the fan at 100%. For the PSU, it should be fine, a better one will help, but that should be fine as long as your stable in voltages.

-Dan

[djbbenn]

Interesting to hear some fellow users comments on this card.

I followed the guide, but my mem doesn't like it above 530, core is happy right up to 560 and beyond on stock cooling.

I installed xt Pe bios anyway with success. However I get artificing in Atitool, and if I enabled overdrive in drivers, all manner of strange things were happening.

Settled back to ATI pro vivo 16 bios and totally stable at 530/550 mem/core

How come some 3D connects are getting xt pe stable? Is it possible we have different memory chips? 1.6s or 2.0s? not samsung??

I have a crappy dell dimension 8300, which I believe has poor cooling properties? but card temps where in the 60 idle/ 70 load when testing in Atitool

I am happy with what I have (probably load xt bios 500/500 next) just curious as regards more successful 3d connect soft mods???


For starters the clocks for the XT PE ar 520/560 (Core/Mem). Turn you core to 520 and try to get the mem up 560. Also make sure your mem is 1.6ns, if not that will hurt your overclock and you chance for the mod to work good. And you said your card aritfacts, did it make block like things on the cube?

-Dan

[3dconnect fella]

I know the stock xt pe speeds, but can't get memory to 560 (safely/stable), 530 is error free though.

Opened up and checked the memory modules and they are the required 1.6ns samsung units. So why can't it run higher than 530?

Environmental temperature on idle is in the high 40s (47-49) and under load rises to 60 (surely this is high), card is fixed at 70, and the fan kicks in on 100%.

The artifacts are yellow dots, and sometimes they form cloud like shapes (not regular shapes).

Installed regular xt bios (500/500) with no problems.

It maybe my low Oem dell psu or high in case temperatures? (Card is very close to OEM p4 cooler)

Ps. I am over the moon to get the performance boost where it is already, just confused why I can't unlock the cards full potential safely...

[3dconnect fella]

If i have 1.3 voltage across mem & gpu would this explain the discrepency? Where's that digimeter..

[djbbenn]

I know the stock xt pe speeds, but can't get memory to 560 (safely/stable), 530 is error free though.

Opened up and checked the memory modules and they are the required 1.6ns samsung units. So why can't it run higher than 530?

Environmental temperature on idle is in the high 40s (47-49) and under load rises to 60 (surely this is high), card is fixed at 70, and the fan kicks in on 100%.

The artifacts are yellow dots, and sometimes they form cloud like shapes (not regular shapes).

Installed regular xt bios (500/500) with no problems.

It maybe my low Oem dell psu or high in case temperatures? (Card is very close to OEM p4 cooler)

Ps. I am over the moon to get the performance boost where it is already, just confused why I can't unlock the cards full potential safely...

I was just making sure that you didn't have the clocks mixed up, because you were talking about a 560 core and thats what the mem should be. Back to subject, not all of the pro vivo's can get to the clocks of the XT PE. Some need to be voltmodded. It could be your PSU but it might not be. If you managed to flash it to a the XT bios unlocking the 4 remaining pipes, your doing good. The only difference with the XT and XT PE bios is a little higher clocks and tighter mem timings. If I were you, I'd just keep it at the XT bios and overclock your core/mem more if you can, form what you are saying. ;)

-Dan

[Veggie]

Hi, I have Sapphire X800Pro Vivo, but the memory is 2.0ns not 1.6ns So this means i can't flash to XT or PE?:(

[Veggie]

Forgot to add it's OC, GPU is 550mhz and memory is at 550mhz with no error's ,With stock cooling when idle temp is around 37-38C, When the card is maxed out 74-75C.At stock card scored 4929 in 3Dmark 05 free edition, OC scored 5768.One thing confusing me, I have AMD 3500+64 venice which scores around 4450 in 3Dmark 05 in the CPU test, Since i OC my x800 pro in the CPU test th CPU is scoring 4990-5010.I've ran it 4 times now over past few days.Any idea's why this is happening?

[Unregistered]

He people, just a quick question to all the connect 3D card holders out there, which drivers are u using and did u use the connect 3d XT PE bios? or the ATI XT PE bios?? Thankz.

[djbbenn]

Forgot to add it's OC, GPU is 550mhz and memory is at 550mhz with no error's ,With stock cooling when idle temp is around 37-38C, When the card is maxed out 74-75C.At stock card scored 4929 in 3Dmark 05 free edition, OC scored 5768.One thing confusing me, I have AMD 3500+64 venice which scores around 4450 in 3Dmark 05 in the CPU test, Since i OC my x800 pro in the CPU test th CPU is scoring 4990-5010.I've ran it 4 times now over past few days.Any idea's why this is happening?

It still runs through the graphics card, so with the higher clocks might have boosted it a bit. Hard to say, wouldn't worry about it though. As for the 2.0ns mem, I am pretty sure you can still mod, as long as the mem can do the 560MHz. You have less of a chance of it working with 2.0 mem. :(

-Dan

[djbbenn]

He people, just a quick question to all the connect 3D card holders out there, which drivers are u using and did u use the connect 3d XT PE bios? or the ATI XT PE bios?? Thankz.

Use the bios that is the same make as your card. If it doesn't work, then try another bios. For drivers, most just use Cats, but others use the Omega's. Your choice most of the time.

-Dan

[icywater]

hi guys, i have a sapphire x800pro vivo AGP (no laser cut and the mem is 1.6ns),
I was able to clock it to 575 core and 600 mem. The problem i have is blackscreen when i softmod it to xt. I followed the procedure step by step and try like 20 bioses, i get black screen at the same place verytime. The OS dectect the card and install the new driver and reboot. It loads the OS and i got in windows up to the part where the monitor screen flash, normally the monitor screen flash twice in windows. For me the first monitor screen flash is ok, but the second one stay black screen and the light on the monitor is flashing. I am run out of idea what to do next. Anyone have any suggestions what to do next?

[djbbenn]

hi guys, i have a sapphire x800pro vivo AGP (no laser cut and the mem is 1.6ns),
I was able to clock it to 575 core and 600 mem. The problem i have is blackscreen when i softmod it to xt. I followed the procedure step by step and try like 20 bioses, i get black screen at the same place verytime. The OS dectect the card and install the new driver and reboot. It loads the OS and i got in windows up to the part where the monitor screen flash, normally the monitor screen flash twice in windows. For me the first monitor screen flash is ok, but the second one stay black screen and the light on the monitor is flashing. I am run out of idea what to do next. Anyone have any suggestions what to do next?

You might have to reinstall your drivers. Go through safemode to delete them.

-Dan

[icywater]

You might have to reinstall your drivers. Go through safemode to delete them.

-Dan


I did a clean os install and still got the problem, I runout of ideas what to do next.

[djbbenn]

Sounds like the card is shutting down from VPU Recover. It may not be able to handle the new settings for some reason. What temps were you getting when you overclocked the card? Also, what flashrom did you use?

-Dan

[icywater]

Sounds like the card is shutting down from VPU Recover. It may not be able to handle the new settings for some reason. What temps were you getting when you overclocked the card? Also, what flashrom did you use?

-Dan

These are the bioses that i used gigabyte xtpe, powercolor xt, sarphire xt, ati xtpe, ati provivo with 16 pipe, gexcube and other , i use so many that i can't remeber all of them.

it definitely not the temperature, because the gpu is water cool , never go over 33 degrees under load. that is run at 12 pipe core 575 mem 595. So i don't really know what is the problem. It drives me crazy when so many with sapphire card mod to xt and i can't.

[icywater]

forgot to say, i use the modify flashrom from this site.

[djbbenn]

Not all cards can do it, I know mine didn't so your not alone. If you can get an overclock like you just said stable, I envy you for that. Thats a huge overclock for a non-modded card, if its isn't. Maybe try flashing an empty bios then your new bios. If not, just overclock that baby to its max and enjoy it. :D

-Dan

[icywater]

Maybe try flashing an empty bios then your new bios.
-Dan

this is one option i haven't try, i will try it when i get home .

[icywater]

well i guess i stuck x800pro vivo can't mod, it is like sapphire has some kind of protection to stop the card from working 16 pipes, it works ok under safe mod, but if very time it load the driver "boom" blackscreen. My hard disk still loading but the screen is black. :confused:

[djbbenn]

That sucks, but at least you can get a sweet overclock.

-Dan

[The_NME]

I modded two AGP MSI x800 Pros some time ago and had no problems with the mod. Now I'm moving up to PCI-E so I bought the 100600SR x800 Pro Sapphire card from NewEgg ($231 after rebate). Today I flashed the only XT PE PCI-E BIOS in the collection (Asus) and guess what I have now? (see attached) 8 pipes in ATITool and unknown clocks. RaBiT reports XT PE speeds though...

Anyhow, this is after connecting the cut bridge via silver pen. Just wondering if anyone who does have a stock XT PE PCI-E card would be willing to post their BIOS...

Edit: Everest reporting x800 SE with 12 pipes and 520/400 clocks. Weird...

[Richyp]

I just got my x800 pro VIVO from sapphire. Im trying to flash the bios and have read all instructions. However when i restart my pc and boot using floppy drive i just get a blank screen with white flashing (-) in the top left for a while then windows loads. I have put all flashrom drives and the downloaded bios onto a floppy. However im not sure which files to use from bootdisk.com to make it bootable. I tried the files for XP PRO QUICK and the one above that. I am using XP PRO service pack 1. Can somebody please help me with this, to which files to use and to make it bootable. Maybe i am writing the files wrong?

[djbbenn]

Try drdflash.exe (http://motherboards.mbarron.net/download/) Richyp.

-Dan

[Richyp]

thanks a lot dan that did the trick. i now got 16 pipelines and x800 XT PE! however i scan for artifacts and theres a few. running at 520/560 and im using Zalman VF700-CU. do i need to give it more power?? crappy PSU?? or is it just a bad cooler? lol. ill lower the clock speeds for now.

i saw u mention something about voltmodding. can you explain? maybe i need more power to get higher clock speeds and no artifacts.

[djbbenn]

thanks a lot dan that did the trick. i now got 16 pipelines and x800 XT PE! however i scan for artifacts and theres a few. running at 520/560 and im using Zalman VF700-CU. do i need to give it more power?? crappy PSU?? or is it just a bad cooler? lol. ill lower the clock speeds for now.

i saw u mention something about voltmodding. can you explain? maybe i need more power to get higher clock speeds and no artifacts.


Congrats...ya some of the vivo's need higher voltages to get the higher overclocks. Try lowering your clocks, but if that doesn't the trick you may have defective pipes.

-Dan

[cableguy]

Hi everybody, I've bought a Sapphire x800 pro PCI-E (Vivo) version graphics card. It came with 2ns samsung memory modules that can be overclocked to 570mhz (stable), and the Gpu to 580mhz (stable). Question: was anybody ever in human history successful in unlocking the missing 4 pipelines on THESE Sapphire cards?? I've read a lot about the topic but it is very confusing.. What I would like to know if there is PROOF that somebody really made it and it worked after... I don't want to ruin my card so I would only try if somebody was ever successful... (if yes, then which bios was used?)

[djbbenn]

It is possible, but the chances of it working are very slim. First you will have to hardmod the card (connect what the lazer cut disconnected) if it has a laser cut. All of the PCI-E cards have to laser cut to my knowledge. You can check by removing the cooler. Then you have to do the softmod (flashing the bios with the XT PE bios). You can try but it probably will not work.

-Dan

[slayer322]

wht has everyone used to connect the 2 contacts on the card to get the extra 4 pipes??

[djbbenn]

Most people use a conductive pen.

-Dan

[The__NME]

cableguy, I'm with you. Only problem is the only BIOS I have seen (the one hosted here) doesn't work right

[slayer322]

where would you find one of thoose

[icywater]

That sucks, but at least you can get a sweet overclock.

-Dan
since i can't unlock the 4 pipes, i did the next best thing.
i just did VR volt mod on the card, now i run it at 626/590 stable.
What is the maximum volt i should use? Right now GPU 1.60v underload is 36 degrees.

[djbbenn]

since i can't unlock the 4 pipes, i did the next best thing.
i just did VR volt mod on the card, now i run it at 626/590 stable.
What is the maximum volt i should use? Right now GPU 1.60v underload is 36 degrees.

Nice job on the overclock, for water I wouldn't go over 1.7 volts.

-Dan

[colcliff]

Anyone know if this method of flashing the bios will work to flash an asus x800xt vivo to an asus x800xt pe, or will it only work when starting with a Pro? and if it does work will it be worrth doing?

thanks

[DarkSol]

Hey are the asus x800pro vivo cards still packed with 1.6ns?

[djbbenn]

Anyone know if this method of flashing the bios will work to flash an asus x800xt vivo to an asus x800xt pe, or will it only work when starting with a Pro? and if it does work will it be worrth doing?

thanks

Yes you can flash the card to a XT PE. Just makesure the card can handle the higher clocks of 520/560.

-Dan

[djbbenn]

Hey are the asus x800pro vivo cards still packed with 1.6ns?

They should be, but I am not sure.

-Dan

[DarkSol]

Oh well =] Guess I'll find out, it should be arriving tomorrow. I'll let you guys know if it still has 1.6

[Veggie]

Got core 555mhz,Memory will go upto 580mhz with couple error's so i left memory at 570mhz all is stable.Now all thats left is to find out where to buy this conductive pen and to get brave enough to proform the mod lol.I'll let you guys no how it turns out :)

[djbbenn]

Good luck there Veggie. ;)

-Dan

[DarkSol]

Got my asus x800pro vivo today, still 1.6ns memory and no artifacts when unlocking the pipes. BUT, it worked after installing the drivers, then i was trying to play some cs source to test it out and it crashed after a little while (like 2-3min). after that it wont boot windows anymore and just hang at the loading screen. Anyone else had this problem before? I flashed the bios with the asus x800xtpe bios agp 256mb samsung 1.6.

[djbbenn]

Go into safemode and delete your drivers and then reinstall them. If it does it again, you might have to go back to a pro.

-Dan

[DarkSol]

hmm okay, I'm going to see if the x800pro 16p bios works

[DarkSol]

ah dammit, i flashed with x800pro bios 16p and now its not even booting anymore
any way to reflash it? will a pci graphics card work?

[djbbenn]

So you get no picture on your screen? You ill have to put a PCI card in there and flash with that. If you get no picture from the PCI card, yo will have to take the AGP card out and just boot with the PCI card and go int the bios. The set the PCI card as the primary device. The put the AGP card back in and flash. Or you can blind flash...

-Dan

[DarkSol]

yeah i've blind flashed before but the system hangs... :( so i guess i'll be looking for a pci card then hehe

[djbbenn]

It hangs? flash your orginal...did you backup your old BIOS? It shouldn't hang with the orginal.

-Dan

[DarkSol]

yeah it doesnt boot at all / show boot screen or anything it completely prevents the system from doing anything. i hope it doesnt do the same when i try the pci card...else im screwed and will probably have to rma it .. :/

[DarkSol]

Didn't work out with pci either, the pc still wouldnt boot, tried it in 2 comps and they both wouldnt boot(black screen nothing else works) I guess i'll have to rma then :(

[djbbenn]

Try flashing the card with the empty bios found here. (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/100/images/empty.bin) Then fllash your regular bios afterwards. Don't reset between the flashes cause you don't need to. What flashrom are you using?

-Dan

[DarkSol]

How? Monitor shows no signal screen and there arent any p.o.s.t. beeps or anything.. And it doesnt boot with a pci graphics card set to primary either..

[edit]I used the modified flashrom from the 1st post.

[djbbenn]

Flash it blind...put it ths way, the state your at, it doesn't hurt to try anything. And if you do RMA, don't tell that you flashed the bios. You shouldn't really RMA it cause its not truthfull, but what can ya do. ;)

-Dan

[DarkSol]

the pc doesnt show any sign of activity at all besides the fans/hdd's that are on. I don't see 3,5'' activity either...it just stops before it can even show the boot image/ post message.

btw, the shop might just give me a brand new one and rma mine for themselves if i tell them that it never worked to begin with :)

[Gonzito]

Hey,

I bought the Connect3d Radeon X800 Pro Vivo and put the XT PE bios on it. The PC immediately recognised it as the XT PE but when I checked the settings with ATITool, although it was running at 520/560 there were still only 12 active pipes? I have tried cleaning off the drivers and reinstalling them but it didn't make any difference. I've also tried the 16 pipe X800 pro Vivo bios but that still only ran 12 pipes?

At the moment I am running it with the XT PE bios and WOW runs great but it would be nice to have those extra 4 pipelines! Please does anyone have a suggestion of how I can activate the extra pipes or why it won't work for me?

Thanks

[KsK]

one question masters ... if i have a X800PRO (not VIVO) and solve the laser cut as in AMD XP processors ... it will work?

[djbbenn]

Hey,

I bought the Connect3d Radeon X800 Pro Vivo and put the XT PE bios on it. The PC immediately recognised it as the XT PE but when I checked the settings with ATITool, although it was running at 520/560 there were still only 12 active pipes? I have tried cleaning off the drivers and reinstalling them but it didn't make any difference. I've also tried the 16 pipe X800 pro Vivo bios but that still only ran 12 pipes?

At the moment I am running it with the XT PE bios and WOW runs great but it would be nice to have those extra 4 pipelines! Please does anyone have a suggestion of how I can activate the extra pipes or why it won't work for me?

Thanks

Did you use the modified flashrom found here. (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/100/images/flashrom16p.zip)

-Dan

[djbbenn]

one question masters ... if i have a X800PRO (not VIVO) and solve the laser cut as in AMD XP processors ... it will work?

Yes it should work, but it doesn't mean that it will work. If the pipes are defective it wont.

-Dan

[Gonzito]

Hi Dan,

Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure I used the modified flashrom. The link you gave me downloads an invalid archive but the file size is different to that of the flashrom I previously downloaded so I would guess that I didn't originally use it. I used the link to flashrom from the instructions originally.

Please can you tell me where to get a good copy of the modified version?

Thanks

[RoadKruuzer]

Put my order in 7/13/05 and the card I got (Sapphire Radeon X800 Pro VIVO 256MB) is laser cut. Not sure when the revision was made. Just an update

[djbbenn]

Hi Dan,

Thanks for the reply. I'm not sure I used the modified flashrom. The link you gave me downloads an invalid archive but the file size is different to that of the flashrom I previously downloaded so I would guess that I didn't originally use it. I used the link to flashrom from the instructions originally.

Please can you tell me where to get a good copy of the modified version?

Thanks

Do you have winrar to open the file with? Cause the link I gave you is to the officasl site for it. Get winrar here. (http://www.rarlab.com/rar/wrar350.exe) . And then try to open the file with that.

-Dan

[sacharja]

Hello,
I have a Sapphire X800 Pro ViVo with 1,6ns and flashed it with a bios of XT by the modified flashrom. After reboot when no driver is installed 2 uknown devices are recognized, how it should be. After I installed catalyst the card is correctly recognized as X800 XT and Secondary Device, but there are 2 more devices (both unknown "driver cannot be installed for this device").

Means with the new firmware and after catalyst installation there are 2 unknown devices that are not existing physically.

Has anybody recognized the same?

[Skombekje]

It worked! 16 pipelines. Had to force the bioschange (-f) in flashrom, but then it did the job. Thanx!

[Gonzito]

Just to say thanks to Dan for putting me right. I hadn't used the "modified" flashrom and once I found it I ran through the process again and it worked! Yeah! 16 pipes now :D

Great instructions, great forum, great advise! thanks again! :)

[Redshock]

First time post so go easy.

I’ve tried the softmod on a Connect3D X800 VIVO card I got from ebuyer. I removed the heatsink and fan and theirs no laser cut.

I’ve run the BIOS mod for an X800XT and ATITOOL says that I’ve unlocked the four pipelines, I now have 16, but in no way can I get the card to anywhere near XT PE speeds.

I’ve tried most of the BIOS’s for an X800XT, all with out success, ATITOOL crashes in a few seconds when I run scan for artifacts. I’ve started at an XT core and memory speeds and gone backwards trying to find a stable overclock speed. I’ve tried the 500/500, core/memory BIOS, again with no luck.

The only BIOS that works is the original BIOS, clocked at the original speed of the card, perhaps I’ve just got a card that doesn’t clock very well, if at all.

Unless I’m doing something wrong, but I think I’ve followed the guide carefully and didn’t encounter any errors when flashing the card.

So anyone with any ideas?

[djbbenn]

Hello,
I have a Sapphire X800 Pro ViVo with 1,6ns and flashed it with a bios of XT by the modified flashrom. After reboot when no driver is installed 2 uknown devices are recognized, how it should be. After I installed catalyst the card is correctly recognized as X800 XT and Secondary Device, but there are 2 more devices (both unknown "driver cannot be installed for this device").

Means with the new firmware and after catalyst installation there are 2 unknown devices that are not existing physically.

Has anybody recognized the same?

Did Windows install drivers for eh ATI Rage chip? Some people seem to have problems with the Rage chip not working and becaue its not working another device wont show. Try another bios, and see how it works. You might also have to get drivercleaner to completely get ride of everything that has t do with ATI and then reinstall your drivers.

-Dan

[djbbenn]

First time post so go easy.

I’ve tried the softmod on a Connect3D X800 VIVO card I got from ebuyer. I removed the heatsink and fan and theirs no laser cut.

I’ve run the BIOS mod for an X800XT and ATITOOL says that I’ve unlocked the four pipelines, I now have 16, but in no way can I get the card to anywhere near XT PE speeds.

I’ve tried most of the BIOS’s for an X800XT, all with out success, ATITOOL crashes in a few seconds when I run scan for artifacts. I’ve started at an XT core and memory speeds and gone backwards trying to find a stable overclock speed. I’ve tried the 500/500, core/memory BIOS, again with no luck.

The only BIOS that works is the original BIOS, clocked at the original speed of the card, perhaps I’ve just got a card that doesn’t clock very well, if at all.

Unless I’m doing something wrong, but I think I’ve followed the guide carefully and didn’t encounter any errors when flashing the card.

So anyone with any ideas?

Did you try to overclock the card without the pipes enable to the XT PE speeds? If the card just can't handle the the speeds use the X800Pro Vivo 16P bios (http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/ATI.X800PROVIVO16P.256.Samsung16.040511.bin) , that is just the the pro bios modified for the 16 pipes.

-Dan

[dil]

hello all,
i've got a Sapphire x800 pro vivo (pci-e) and i've flashed the bios with a asus X800 XT PE (PCI-E) (asus seem the only one's to have the bios (xt pe) for a pci-e card.
after flashing the speeds are running correct 520/560 (atitool) but windows sees the graphcs card as X800GT and not x800xt pe, could that be changed some how, every thing else if fine and stable.

Thanks all in advance

[dil]

1 more question can i unlock the 4 pipelines from 12 to 16 (i cant find a bios for it)

after flashing the bios to x800xt pe the pipelines were at 12.

Thankyou :)

[highwind86]

hello all,
i've got a Sapphire x800 pro vivo (pci-e) and i've flashed the bios with a asus X800 XT PE (PCI-E) (asus seem the only one's to have the bios (xt pe) for a pci-e card.
after flashing the speeds are running correct 520/560 (atitool) but windows sees the graphcs card as X800GT and not x800xt pe, could that be changed some how, every thing else if fine and stable.

Thanks all in advance

I have the same exact card and the same exact problem. It says X800GT after I install the asus x800 xt pe pci-e bios and still says 12 pipelines...its very strange. Also, once windows automatically installs "x800 GT" drivers, the clock speeds in ATI tool become symbols like "=#%" or something like that...I'm using the modified flashrom and everything...I just don't know what I'm doing wrong. Maybe I need a different bios. I've also tried the sapphire x800 XT pci-e bios and it was pretty much the same thing except with the non PE speeds before it loads the drivers and becomes...symbols.

[djbbenn]

Just try another bios. I have heard of them dectecting as x800se, and that meant you have the wrong bios. So its should be the same if it detects it as a GT.

-Dan

[dil]

i have tried 4 different bios's (ati) x800xt, (asus) x800xt pe, (asus) x800xt, (Sapphire) x800xt, according to ati tool the core and memory are at the correct settings but windows wil not recognise it as a x800xt or x800xt pe.
the bios flashes i have used have been for the pci-e as mine's a pci-e (sapphire).
and i'm doing this in win 64bit! could that be somert to do with it. or could someone recomend what bios i should flash it with.
Thanks in advance

(can i use agp bios's on my pci-e, i havent tried that)

[highwind86]

i have tried 4 different bios's (ati) x800xt, (asus) x800xt pe, (asus) x800xt, (Sapphire) x800xt, according to ati tool the core and memory are at the correct settings but windows wil not recognise it as a x800xt or x800xt pe.
the bios flashes i have used have been for the pci-e as mine's a pci-e (sapphire).
and i'm doing this in win 64bit! could that be somert to do with it. or could someone recomend what bios i should flash it with.
Thanks in advance

(can i use agp bios's on my pci-e, i havent tried that)

Like I mentioned earlier, I have the same exact problem as you and the same card, sapphire x800 pro vivo on PCI-E, and I'm not on 64bit windows. Although I did mention that the clockspeeds looked verrry strange in ATI Tool after windows loaded the x800 gt drivers or whatever but then I switched from using modified flashrom to the ATI Flasher and that still gave me x800 gt but the ATI control panel actually works with it and everything seems stable. My 3D Mark 05 scores went up 600 points but it still says 12 pipelines...and I'm unsure how comfortable I am with the bios being listed as X800GT...

So yeah, I'd also love to know if it would be okay to try an AGP bios with my PCI-E x800 pro vivo.

[djbbenn]

DO NOT use a AGP bios on a PCI-E card! That will mess the card up. Did you guys hardmod to get unlock the pipes? You have to hardmod the PCI-E versions before flashing or else it will only show 12p cause thats all there is. If you don't hardmod, it doesn't matter what bios you flash, you will not get the pipes, because they are physically cut on the chip. Where it showing up as a GT, I really don't know. The GT was just released, and I don't even think you can get the GT bios form this site. The GT is also based on the R480chip with 8p, while the X800pro's are the r420(AGP) and the r423(PCI-E). So I don't know why its showing as a GT. Sorry but I can't help you there.

-Dan

[dil]

i have not done the hardmod, i have been looking all over but i need instructions on how to do it, could you post a link in you know one where i can follow the instructions for the hard mod.

will i still be able to hard mod it now eventhough i have flashed the bios to the asus x800xt pe or will i have to revert to the original bios before hard moding it.

Thanks.

[djbbenn]

You don't have to revert to do the hard mod. To to the mod simply take the heatsink off and get a conductive pen and join where y