X800 Pro VIVO to XT PE Bios Mod

[NoObStIcK]

Hay guys, recently I just bought GeCube x800 pro agp vivo, it says i got 12 active pipelines so I need to flash it to enable the other 4 pipes, but today I just use ATI tool and overclock it to the PE speed, and run the artifacts, found no artifacts for around 10 mins.....but then the temperature got up to 68!, is that normal? and so does that mean I should get a better cooler??

[farns]

Success...Used XT PE AGP bios and forced using modded flashrom.
No laser cut on board, reached 540/590 x 16 pipes but card ran very hot.
Fixed with Arctic Cooling ATI 5 fan...

Max temp 63C....
Idle 43C....

[dolf]

Gregor, do the fuse research and post results here. How to do read here: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5367. Your card is AGP and should be moddable to 16 pipes.

Good luck

[Gregor]

I have managed to modded it to 16 pipes few days ago.
Tnx dolf anyway.;)

[DarkTrooper]

Hi, I got my Connect3D X850Pro AGP VIVO, it is the 2.0ns Version of the board... even with no oc it is very hot, around 69°/48° I can go to 530/530 and have 70°/49°. Seems quite for the default value. Is there a way to see if it is none the less modable to 16 pipes without removing the cooler ?

Greetz

Marc

[privateer0506]

Success...Used XT AGP bios and forced using modded flashrom.
laser cut on board, reached 519.5/540 x 16 pipes card running at 35C / 36C with Arctic Cooling ATI 5 fan... running straight for 16 hrs no artifacts, etc. Varied loads and games.

How hot can I let the temp get?
I ran it at 540/590 temps went up to 55C/63C is that OK? Usually leave the PC on all the time and don't want to fry card.

Thanks
:confused:

[zOaib]

Success...Used XT AGP bios and forced using modded flashrom.
laser cut on board, reached 519.5/540 x 16 pipes card running at 35C / 36C with Arctic Cooling ATI 5 fan... running straight for 16 hrs no artifacts, etc. Varied loads and games.

How hot can I let the temp get?
I ran it at 540/590 temps went up to 55C/63C is that OK? Usually leave the PC on all the time and don't want to fry card.

Thanks
:confused:

under 70 is decent !

[Attila]

First of all I have to congratulate W1zard on a very well written article. Very concise and easy to follow. I successfully followed the instructions and was able to flash my card to enable all 16 pipelines. The only thing is my system (or the card perhaps) seems to have trouble with the new core and memory speed which are 520/560 as opposed to the Pro version which is 475/450. When I keep it at the 520/560 speed my games (and the desktop of my computer) seem to alternate in Refresh rates so that the desktop or the game screen size changes to beyond the viewable area and then eventually freezes. Through experimentation and running ATI Tool I have determined that setting the speeds at 490/475 seems to allow my system to be stable and instead I installed the X800 Pro VIVO 16P version of the bios.

My question is, why can I not run my card at those higher core and memory speed settings? Is it because the voltage needs to be increased to the card somehow through the BIOS settings? My card is an HIS Excalibur X800 PRO VIVO card with the Ice QII cooling technology. I have an Athlon FX 3500 Newcastle processor slightly overclocked running at 2.4 G with 2 GB of OCZ EL Platinum low latency Ram.

[Storm_Uk]

Hi people, i am getting a MSI X800 Pro VIVO from ebuyer. Just wondered if anybody has had success with this card? I know my friend had a Connect 3D Vivo which he flashed to a XTPE and he said all went fine but then after a few weeks the card just crashed once and then when he rebooted there were a lot of curruption and big white blocks on screen. He said that he tried to flash back to original bios and that didn't work. So he had to RMA it. Anyone experianced this before? Any advice would be great thankz.

[sniviler]

Hi people, i am getting a MSI X800 Pro VIVO from ebuyer. Just wondered if anybody has had success with this card? I know my friend had a Connect 3D Vivo which he flashed to a XTPE and he said all went fine but then after a few weeks the card just crashed once and then when he rebooted there were a lot of curruption and big white blocks on screen. He said that he tried to flash back to original bios and that didn't work. So he had to RMA it. Anyone experianced this before? Any advice would be great thankz.

probably got to hot once to often and fired something:twitch:

[Storm_Uk]

probably got to hot once to often and fired something:twitch:

Not the case as he had an ATI Silencer 4 fixed to it and it never went above 57 degrees. His computer is one of the coolest ive seen so i doubt it was that.

[Star]

hey i have a Connect3D x800GTO and was sucessful in using a modded x800GTO bios to unlock it to 16p. I'd like it to display x800XT or x800XT PE in windows, but i don't see a XT or XT PE version in the bios collection for PCI-E. will the AGP version of the bios work? it has the same specs. also are each manufacturer's bios different? (i guess they are since there is a need for many different BIOS') would for example, a saphire x800 XT PE bios work on my card?

[BlackPearl]

You might want to use one of the bios for 2.0 ns Samsung memory - perhaps the Powercolor X800XT PCIe/Samsung 2.0 bios? I haven't used it personally because I just use ATITool to set any speed I want with the modified C3D 16p bios, but some users of this card have reported success.

[flapjack]

Hey everyone. This is quite the thread. I've read about the last 20 pages and am still stuck on a decision.

Basically, I can get an ATI retail boxed X850 Pro for $260 shipped, plus a $30 rebate for a total price of $230. This is after a $15 dollar off coupon I have at Buy.com.

Here's the link (http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=201701063)

I would love to flash it using the instructions in the first post, but I'm a little hesitant after reading about all these problems.

Can anyone even at least take a shot what my chances are of success? Based on the fact that it's an ATI card, would my chances be better or worse?

[JLBENEDICT]

hey i have a Connect3D x800GTO and was sucessful in using a modded x800GTO bios to unlock it to 16p. I'd like it to display x800XT or x800XT PE in windows, but i don't see a XT or XT PE version in the bios collection for PCI-E. will the AGP version of the bios work? it has the same specs. also are each manufacturer's bios different? (i guess they are since there is a need for many different BIOS') would for example, a saphire x800 XT PE bios work on my card?


If you are not sure which BIOS to use, try what I have done.
Since you are successful in using the unlocked 16 pipe BIOS, do a BIOS dump.
Use RaBiT and edit this BIOS; edit the "Device ID" and change it to 5D57.
Now save it, and reflash your video BIOS with this. Turn off your system, and turn it back on.. Windows will now detect a new VGA adapter on bootup.. and of course, it will now be an X800XT.

[bobyjo]

Hey everyone. This is quite the thread. I've read about the last 20 pages and am still stuck on a decision.

Basically, I can get an ATI retail boxed X850 Pro for $260 shipped, plus a $30 rebate for a total price of $230. This is after a $15 dollar off coupon I have at Buy.com.

Here's the link (http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=201701063)

I would love to flash it using the instructions in the first post, but I'm a little hesitant after reading about all these problems.

Can anyone even at least take a shot what my chances are of success? Based on the fact that it's an ATI card, would my chances be better or worse?

If you are interested in purchasing a lower end card and flashing to the upper end card.
You would do better to go with a X800 Pro VIVO, or a X800 XT card.
This card will flash to the X800 XT pe version and virtually no problems.

[flapjack]

If you are interested in purchasing a lower end card and flashing to the upper end card.
You would do better to go with a X800 Pro VIVO, or a X800 XT card.
This card will flash to the X800 XT pe version and virtually no problems.

Actually, I'm not interested in the X800's at all. If that were the case, I'd probably go with a 6800 GT and mod that.

I would like to mod the X850 Pro into an X850 XT PE. The deal in the link I sent was pretty good. $230 for the Pro is not bad at all. Even better if I can get it to XT PE speeds.

Do the ATI cards have low success rates nowadays? Or just the 850's in general?

[zOaib]

Actually, I'm not interested in the X800's at all. If that were the case, I'd probably go with a 6800 GT and mod that.

I would like to mod the X850 Pro into an X850 XT PE. The deal in the link I sent was pretty good. $230 for the Pro is not bad at all. Even better if I can get it to XT PE speeds.

Do the ATI cards have low success rates nowadays? Or just the 850's in general?

all the ati x850 pro's even vivo are laser cut , cannot be modded ! i think the asus x850 pro isnt , and also if u can get your hands on a x800 gto2 , which actually has a 480 chip on it , can be successfully moded to an x850 xt pe 16p

[flapjack]

all the ati x850 pro's even vivo are laser cut , cannot be modded ! i think the asus x850 pro isnt , and also if u can get your hands on a x800 gto2 , which actually has a 480 chip on it , can be successfully moded to an x850 xt pe 16p

Are we talking about even the AGP cards?? If so, this is a bummer.

[sniviler]

The BBATi x850pro vivo can be unlucked, did 3 in the last 2 months:toast:

[flapjack]

What card is that? I tried every price search engine and couldn't find it.

I also tried "BBA x850"

[sniviler]

What card is that? I tried every price search engine and couldn't find it.

I also tried "BBA x850"

BBA = BUILT BY ATI:D

Like this http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/product.asp?pid=12650&sid=QDX22S12LVAK9H0SXE6A8GW5K1594H60

[flapjack]

BBA = BUILT BY ATI:D

Like this http://www.allstarshop.com/shop/product.asp?pid=12650&sid=QDX22S12LVAK9H0SXE6A8GW5K1594H60

No wonder I couldn't find it! Now what I find to be weird, is others are saying ATI has modified the card to not allow unlocking. Read the last few posts where someone is telling me ATI has "caught on".

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1334013458#post1334013458

[flapjack]

Man, now you got me wondering what my chances of unlocking this bizatch are. CompUSA has it this week for $250, no rebate. The only problem is it doesn't have VIVO. Does that make it unmoddable?

http://compusa.shoplocal.com/compusa/default.aspx?action=browsepagedetail&storeid=2402193&rapid=198589&pagenumber=15&listingid=-2096182351&ref=%2fcompusa%2fdefault.aspx%3faction%3dbrowsepag esingle%26storeid%3d2402193%26rapid%3d198589%26pag enumber%3d15

Even sweeter is that I have a $100 gift card to use there.

[sniviler]

Man, now you got me wondering what my chances of unlocking this bizatch are. CompUSA has it this week for $250, no rebate. The only problem is it doesn't have VIVO. Does that make it unmoddable?

http://compusa.shoplocal.com/compusa/default.aspx?action=browsepagedetail&storeid=2402193&rapid=198589&pagenumber=15&listingid=-2096182351&ref=%2fcompusa%2fdefault.aspx%3faction%3dbrowsepag esingle%26storeid%3d2402193%26rapid%3d198589%26pag enumber%3d15

Even sweeter is that I have a $100 gift card to use there.

All BBA X850 agp PRO's have vivo, if you read the side of the box. If they have a yellow connector on the card, they have vIvo.

[flapjack]

Ahhh, ok. I was looking at the outside of the card on the slot plate.

So that one I posted a link to at CompUSA can possibly unlock.... what are the chances? You say you've done 3 in the last two months? Do you build computers for people or just host LAN parties? ;)

Also, how did you unlock? Did you flash, or use software. If you used software, please post what type. Details man... DETAILS! I'm getting excited. I think I'll get one tomorrow.

I'll be bummed if it doesn't unlock, though....

[sniviler]

read here http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=5103

yes i build computers and host party's

[flapjack]

Do you have a good BIOS that works well for this card?

I just want the XT PE BIOS with the stock Pro speeds. From there, I can soft OC to find it's sweet spot, do a BIOS dump with ATI Tools, edit the ROM with RABit, and reflash, right?

Running an XT PE BIOS at 500/500 for a while should give me time to order and install a ATI Silencer, too. Is it worth trying to find the Silencer 5, or is the 4 enough?

[zOaib]

Are we talking about even the AGP cards?? If so, this is a bummer.

yes sir , my friends is stuck with one , he then purchased the pci express which was also laser cut , all original ati products are made sure they cannot be softmodded they are hardlocked ..............

[zOaib]

The BBATi x850pro vivo can be unlucked, did 3 in the last 2 months:toast:

check the production date it has to be an earlier release , the new ones arent , friend bought it from bestbuy and couldnt do it !

[sniviler]

check the production date it has to be an earlier release , the new ones arent , friend bought it from bestbuy and couldnt do it !

can only tell you that all the cards I unlocked were bios dated 2/18/05

[zOaib]

can only tell you that all the cards I unlocked were bios dated 2/18/05

asked my friend what bios date he had , and he says his is 08/20/05 ............ so makes sense !

[flapjack]

Well, I guess we'll see. I just picked up my card from CompUSA about 30 minutes ago. I have to work tonight, so I won't be able to mess with it until tomorrow afternoon.

How do I tell which BIOS revision I have? What else should I look for on the card? I'll take it to work with me so I can look it over.

[flapjack]

Ok, I opened up the card and was a little dismayed to see half of these 8 little chips on the board were soldered differently. DeR on the Rage3d forums though that was an indicator of "unlockability" because his wouldn't unlock. He exchanged it, and got one with an older serial. It had the funny soldering, but unlocked just fine! I compared my serial with his, and it was the same series!

I also have the 1.6ns memory chips. 1000 / 1.6 = 625mhz! Has anyone actually bought an X850 Pro with the 2.0ns chips (1000 / 2 = 500mhz.... :P )

[flapjack]

Oh yeah... here's the thread where he posted the serial numbers. Definitely worth the read if you're looking into getting one of these.

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1334015306#post1334015306

[zOaib]

Well, I guess we'll see. I just picked up my card from CompUSA about 30 minutes ago. I have to work tonight, so I won't be able to mess with it until tomorrow afternoon.

How do I tell which BIOS revision I have? What else should I look for on the card? I'll take it to work with me so I can look it over.

i am glad u got a good one , cheers :toast:

[flapjack]

I hope I did! I'll post my results tomorrow.

[flapjack]

Ok, after screwing with the card and almost giving up, I finally got it unlocked. The funniest thing is, I couldn't get it unlocked with flashrom. I had to use atiflash. Now I have all 16 pipes and I flashed to the Pro BIOS for fan control.

Now, this is what worries me. Before I flashed it, I tried seeing what it would OC to. The chips are 1.6ns Samsung, so they should theoretically be good for 625mhz (1000 / 1.6 = 625). To be safe, I tried 590, the XT PE speed. I ran ATITool, and it detected artifacts immediately. I lowered it 5 at a time until I could go a minute w/o artifacts. My result on the memory was 575, which seems really low to me.

Next, I decided to tackle the core. I started with 540, the XT PE speed just to see if it would do it. Ran the artifact tester in ATITool and got an immediate hard lock. I kept going down by 5 until I got to 510mhz. Still, as soon as it gets to 74C, it locks up. I definitely made sure the fan was running.

I'm starting to worry that I have a bum card. My computer is put together well, and the inside temps never go above 40C.

The scariest part of all this, I have the clocks at 500/500, and I got a lock up after 15 minutes of playing F.E.A.R. at 1280x960 resolution. There's no way in hell I should get that w/o even overclocking, right????

What do you all think?

[zOaib]

Ok, after screwing with the card and almost giving up, I finally got it unlocked. The funniest thing is, I couldn't get it unlocked with flashrom. I had to use atiflash. Now I have all 16 pipes and I flashed to the Pro BIOS for fan control.

Now, this is what worries me. Before I flashed it, I tried seeing what it would OC to. The chips are 1.6ns Samsung, so they should theoretically be good for 625mhz (1000 / 1.6 = 625). To be safe, I tried 590, the XT PE speed. I ran ATITool, and it detected artifacts immediately. I lowered it 5 at a time until I could go a minute w/o artifacts. My result on the memory was 575, which seems really low to me.

Next, I decided to tackle the core. I started with 540, the XT PE speed just to see if it would do it. Ran the artifact tester in ATITool and got an immediate hard lock. I kept going down by 5 until I got to 510mhz. Still, as soon as it gets to 74C, it locks up. I definitely made sure the fan was running.

I'm starting to worry that I have a bum card. My computer is put together well, and the inside temps never go above 40C.

The scariest part of all this, I have the clocks at 500/500, and I got a lock up after 15 minutes of playing F.E.A.R. at 1280x960 resolution. There's no way in hell I should get that w/o even overclocking, right????

What do you all think?


did u flash your card with a ati x850 xt pe bios yet or , just unlocked the 16 pipes only ???

[flapjack]

did u flash your card with a ati x850 xt pe bios yet or , just unlocked the 16 pipes only ???

Well, you need to use either the XT or the XT PE BIOS to unlock the pipes. At first, I was using the plain XT BIOS with flashrom, but had no luck. Then, I tried atiflash with the XT PE BIOS, but kept getting a "part number not matching" error. After looking it up, I found I could use the -f switch to force the XT PE BIOS on it.

Without rebooting, I flashed the X850 Pro BIOS back on without the -newbios switch, so it'd keep the pipes.

[zOaib]

Well, you need to use either the XT or the XT PE BIOS to unlock the pipes. At first, I was using the plain XT BIOS with flashrom, but had no luck. Then, I tried atiflash with the XT PE BIOS, but kept getting a "part number not matching" error. After looking it up, I found I could use the -f switch to force the XT PE BIOS on it.

Without rebooting, I flashed the X850 Pro BIOS back on without the -newbios switch, so it'd keep the pipes.

my bad i was thinking about the x800 pro vivio flashing bios which has only a bios which unlocks to 16p without changing core clock speeds and mem .............. okay then now looking at your situation u may have a bad card ! i recommed flashing it to original bios and try returning or sell it on ebay if u live in USA ............. and then get a GTO2 saphire , which is a very ncie card to unlock to x850 xt pe .......... but thats pci express , i think u have agp right ?

[sniviler]

flapjack, overclocking is just luck of the draw, some cards are better then others.

I had stability issues at first my games kept crashing, freezing............ after 2 weeks found out just lowering my FRONT SIDE BUS from 200 to 198 fixed it.

I also had to replace for 400 watt power supply with an Antec smart power 500watt.

did you set your fan manually to 100% using atitool ?

[slaney30]

I did the mod to my x850pro and flashed it with an x850xt bios which appeared to have run successfully.

I ran ATItool and it did in fact increase my core clock speeds to 520/540.

I looked at the number of pipelines and its still stuck at 12. I tried uninstalling drivers and redownloading them through ati and reinstalling only to find the same thing happening. I then proceeded to reflash it, and still no luck.

I also reinstalled ati tool and i still get the same results.

ANY IDEAS?

I used the modified flash device from the article and downloaded the correct bios from their listings.

Thanks,

Jesse

[sniviler]

I did the mod to my x850pro and flashed it with an x850xt bios which appeared to have run successfully.

I ran ATItool and it did in fact increase my core clock speeds to 520/540.

I looked at the number of pipelines and its still stuck at 12. I tried uninstalling drivers and redownloading them through ati and reinstalling only to find the same thing happening. I then proceeded to reflash it, and still no luck.

I also reinstalled ati tool and i still get the same results.

ANY IDEAS?

I used the modified flash device from the article and downloaded the correct bios from their listings.

Thanks,

Jesse

use the ATIFLASH rom....... like this ATIFLASH -F -P -NEWBIOS 0 XXX.BIN

[slaney30]

I tried that, but when it reprograms the bios it only reads a 10000 kbytes instead of the 58000.

It's also strange that ati tool actually shows it running the xt's bios clock speeds, but the pipelines are just not enabled.

I am wondering if the new batch of cards are locked... There are a few others out there that have just bought the cards having problems.

I've tried the XT PE bios also , and it doesn't work. Im running out of things to try here...

I've heard that I should try using Gigabyte's flash utility, however im unable to find it online at all.

Any ideas I'd appreciate it.


Thanks.

[sniviler]

TYPE atiflash -i before you flash and see how many bytes, pretty sure it is 10000 normaly

[slaney30]

No its normally 65338 or something like that...
Looking at the size of the bins they are much larger than that.

I will try that....I can return the card if it gets hosed...

Any thing else to try?

Thanks

[slaney30]

I tried exactly as you said, and still only 12 pipelines. This is driving me crazy....

[slaney30]

I returned my card to Best Buy for the oldest x850pro on the shelves and retried the bios flash to make it an xt to open up the pipelines.

Everything worked! Pipelines are now at 16. I believe the newer x850pro cards are not unlockable as I have talked to others that have not been able to open up the pipelines...

I can't be 100% positive but exchanging for one with a little older serial number seems to have done the trick.

[Racer X]

Slaney,
Just out of curiosity, what is the serial number on the box? The reason I ask is that I bought an X850 Pro from Best Buy 4 or 5 weeks ago. I tried for an entire evening to flash and unlock the 4 remaining pipes but was unable to do so. I found out about a week or so later that the card I had purchased was indeed locked another way besides just a BIOS lock. So I went and bought a brand new X800XL off of eBay for less than I paid for the 850. Of course when I benched the X800XL it was slower in every benchmark I threw at it. Not by much, but enough to annoy me. I read all of the reviews where the XL beat the Pro by a few frames, sometimes quite a few. Anyway, I had reflashed the X850 back to its original BIOS and it was running perfectly, just with 12 pipes active.
So one day I brought it with me to work and at lunch I went to the Best Buy up the road and looked to see if they had any more on the shelf. They had two left and I looked at the serial numbers just for kicks and they were 1805299XXXXX and 1805309XXXXX. Now the serial number on mine was 1805360XXXXX. I figured I would try the one with the oldest S/N and try to unlock it. I told them I was having temperature problems with mine and they offered to refund or replace the card. I took the latter option. Sure enough it unlocked with the BIOS flash and has been running with 16 pipes enabled for 2 weeks now. I reflashed my original BIOS back after I unlocked the 4 pipes to regain dynamic fan control because the XT and XT/PE BIOS's change the way the fan works and the card gets real hot real quick. It runs at 500/500 16 pipes and by opening all of the pipes my benchmarks went up. 400+ points in 3DM05, almost 900 points in 3DM03 and 250 points on 3DM01. Aquamark went up about 2000 points also.
Anyway, if you can return it for an older serial number you might find one that unlocks. Be sure to check out the sticky at the top of the video card forum pertaining to using ATI Tool to check the fuses of your card before you throw in the towel. You need to see both "F"'s in the first and second fuses in the right places or the card cannot be BIOS flashed to unlock. My first card had a "B" in the first fuse and an "E" at the end of the second. By comparison, the new card has both F's in the right place and the BIOS flash took first try.
Sorry for the long reply. But I figured I would chime in here 'cuz I went through this recently and maybe the info might help. Good luck in finding one to mod. It's a pretty decent card when it's unlocked.

edit: well I posted this exactly 10 minutes after you posted that you did what I was suggesting to do. Glad to hear it worked out for you.

[slaney30]

The serial number of my old one was 18053061xxxx, I exchanged for 180529902737-01 and the pipes unlocked. ATI definitely got smart.... they realized what was going on and changed the newer radeons... I think if you get a PRO with a serail number starting with 1805299 you'll get one of the last unlockable items... Of course I cant be sure, but with what you are saying and with what I encountered its a good bet.

[Schwarz]

I have a little question about ATItools that i will post later on but i will explain my case.

I just got a x850 PRO from Ati.
Flashed it to a x850 XT PE but as soon as i started a game it crashed on me.
I then flashed it to a x850 XT (clocked at 520 560)
Everything runs fine so far except that i get artifacts in ATI tools.
I then used a ATI Bios tuner (RaBit)
and modified a XT to run at 500/580.(Do not get nothing with mem running at XTPE speeds)
Even got it up to close 599 but after 600 i get crap appearing all over...)
The problem then was that the fan on the card would never spin.
Quickly fixed that though i just pluged the video card's fan straight to my power suply at 12 VOLTS to run it 100%(Makes a nice little humming sound.)
I did not like the fact that my system would boot up without the fan spinning.
And had to wait for ATItools to get it to spin...

My question though is when i ran it at 520/560
I did not get any artifacts in any games but only in ATItools...
Should i keep running it at 500/580+ or get it up to XT speed round 520 ...
(I know 540 hangs me up)
The highest i can get with ATItools is 504 then 505 gives me artifacts...
My temps in 3dmark 2005 is normal at 520 (50) 60 is the highest I got.

[BigTommy]

hey guys im getting a connect3d x850 pro vivo agp and im wondering if another manufactuers x850 xtpe bios will work on my card + will the vivo thingy will still work coz i didnt see at the bios page any xtpe bios with "vivo"

[utetopia]

How do I use the empty.bin file? I've downloaded the ISO and burnt it with the X800XTPE file but want to remove the previous BIOS data from my card. Thanks.

[Sh0K]

Hi all this is my first post on this forum :rockout:

Can I mod an x800 with 12 pixel pipeline with R430, to X800XL with 16pixel pipeline?

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I tried some bios of x800xl downloaded here using latest atiflash (atiflash -p 0 x800xl.bin -f -sst) but on reboot i have black screen :banghead: and i have to use a pci card to flash original bios.....
Where is the problem? Please help me :confused:

ps: sorry for my english ;)

[bobyjo]

Hi all this is my first post on this forum :rockout:

Can I mod an x800 with 12 pixel pipeline with R430, to X800XL with 16pixel pipeline?

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I tried some bios of x800xl downloaded here using latest atiflash (atiflash -p 0 x800xl.bin -f -sst) but on reboot i have black screen :banghead: and i have to use a pci card to flash original bios.....
Where is the problem? Please help me :confused:

ps: sorry for my english ;)

atiflash -p 0 x800xl.bin -f -sst

You did not follow instructions, this is the way to place the switches before flashing.
atiflash -p 0 -f x800xl.bin

www.techpowerup.com/bios/Sapphire.X800XT.256.Samsung16_040624.bin
Download this bios and flash to it with the floppy disk way.

Why are you wanting to flash to the XL version?
Which memory chips does your card have?

[Sh0K]

atiflash -p 0 x800xl.bin -f -sst

You did not follow instructions, this is the way to place the switches before flashing.
atiflash -p 0 -f x800xl.bin

www.techpowerup.com/bios/Sapphire.X800XT.256.Samsung16_040624.bin
Download this bios and flash to it with the floppy disk way.

Why are you wanting to flash to the XL version?
Which memory chips does your card have?
If i flash with your command line i got error and i can't flash because the card is locked, if i flash with my command line the flash is ok but on the reboot the monitor is black :banghead:
Your URL point to another graphic card with another chipset (R420), i want to flash my card to x800xl because have the same core of my card (R430)
My card have Infineon 2ns i'm searching one bios of x800xl backuped with atiflash:
atiflash -s 0 RIALTO.bin
atiflash -s 1 R430.bin

ps:the latest atiflash isn't upgraded to support r430 infact if i do atiflash -i the asic is R423

[bobyjo]

If i flash with your command line i got error and i can't flash because the card is locked, if i flash with my command line the flash is ok but on the reboot the monitor is black :banghead:
Your URL point to another graphic card with another chipset (R420), i want to flash my card to x800xl because have the same core of my card (R430)
My card have Infineon 2ns i'm searching one bios of x800xl backuped with atiflash:
atiflash -s 0 RIALTO.bin
atiflash -s 1 R430.bin

ps:the latest atiflash isn't upgraded to support r430 infact if i do atiflash -i the asic is R423

www.techpowerup.com/bios/Sapphire.X800XL.256.Samsung16_050120.bin

OK Then flash with this bios.

www.techpowerup.com/bios/ATI.X800XL.256.Samsung16_050120.bin

Or this one. Both are XL bios but they are also 1.6 ns memory chips.

[Sh0K]

www.techpowerup.com/bios/Sapphire.X800XL.256.Samsung16_050120.bin

OK Then flash with this bios.

www.techpowerup.com/bios/ATI.X800XL.256.Samsung16_050120.bin

Or this one. Both are XL bios but they are also 1.6 ns memory chips.
I tried both bios but on reboot i receive black screen. What is caused by?
I used atiflash -p 1 x800xl.bin -f -sst

adapter 0 is the bridge RIALTO
adapter 1 is the R430

I think that i need 2 backup bios:
atiflash -s 0 rialto.bin
atiflash -s 1 r430.bin
who can help me?

[bobyjo]

I tried both bios but on reboot i receive black screen. What is caused by?
I used atiflash -p 1 x800xl.bin -f -sst

adapter 0 is the bridge RIALTO
adapter 1 is the R430

I think that i need 2 backup bios:
atiflash -s 0 rialto.bin
atiflash -s 1 r430.bin
who can help me?

USE these switches:::atiflash -p 0 -f X800xxxx.bin

PLace your bios where I have the X800xxxx.bin
I just flashed my X800 to a pe version again.
This works even if the codes are a mismatch.

[Labg11]

Is there any bios to just unlock the 4 remaining pipelanes on a x850pro???, just like the bios on the x800xl 16P does?.

I really don't want to mess with the clock speed i like my fan at 54% and 40ºC Vpu and board.

Thanks in advance.

[flapjack]

USE these switches:::atiflash -p 0 -f X800xxxx.bin

PLace your bios where I have the X800xxxx.bin
I just flashed my X800 to a pe version again.
This works even if the codes are a mismatch.

You'll probably need to put the -f switch at the end, too.

I got the "The part numbers do not match" error until I did this.

[flapjack]

Is there any bios to just unlock the 4 remaining pipelanes on a x850pro???, just like the bios on the x800xl 16P does?.

I really don't want to mess with the clock speed i like my fan at 54% and 40ºC Vpu and board.

Thanks in advance.

AGP = yes
PCI-E = no

[BigTommy]

hey guys im getting a connect3d x850 pro vivo agp and im wondering if another manufactuers x850 xtpe bios will work on my card + will the vivo thingy will still work coz i didnt see at the bios page any xtpe bios with "vivo"

[Zoors]

Yes the VIVO will work, at least the VO... It did so on my Club3D X800Pro now biosed as a Sapphire XTPE.

[redcoat]

Hello!
I just flashed my Saphire X800 Pro VIVO bios to Asus X800 XT PE. I have run tests on F.E.A.R. and I'm getting 82 fps instead of prior 72 fps. So I have improvements. However, the atitool says I still only have 12 pipes running though I do have improvements?? Any ideas?
Thanks!

[flapjack]

Try ATI Tray Tools. I have had much better luck with it.

[dnalevelc]

I have a BBA X800Pro VIVO AGP 256. I can't even get the bios to save itself. I have tried to use atiflash and flashrom. I have used the options -s 0 oldbios.bin and it won't let me access the cards bios. I checked and it tells me the bios is locked. is there anything I can do? I jus want to try and get the 16 pipes activated. I can't go to XT speeds or higher. I found out if I go over 480 on either my core or mem it decides to corrupt my display. Please help me. If you need any more info or the exact wording that it tells me when I try to backup I will get it for you.

:banghead:

Thanks
DNA

[flapjack]

Well, first off... you can much more easily back up the BIOS by doing a BIOS dump with ATI Tray Tools.

Then, flash using ATIFlash.

[dnalevelc]

thank you for the fast reply. I will try that. I also jus did the Rivatuner test to see if my registers showed the right info and they do. I hope this works. I am just not happy that I can't go over a 480 speed on my core or mem.

thanks again

DNA

[jeehaa]

goodday all.

I'm trying to flash my:

Sapphire x800 pro vivo 1.6 ns (gc16) to a x800XT PE.

I've downloaded atiflash and the modified flashrom (16p) but i'm using atiflash.

i've made a startup disk (boot) and a disk with:

atiflash.exe (latest)
atiflash.CHG
oldbios.bin (backup of my own bios: atiflash -s 0 oldbios.bin)
pebios.bin (renamed file, original was: ATI.X800XT.256.Samsung16.040609.bin (latest from bios list)
sbios.bin (renamed file, original was: Sapphire.X800XT.256.Samsung16_040624.bin)

If I understand everything well, I'll have to flash with pebios.bin

so when I try I get this:

atiflash -p 0 pebios.bin

result:

OLD SSID: 0D62
NEW SSID: 0002

SSID MISMATCHED (error) and then you'll have to press 1 to continue

Why shouldn't I try the Sapphire bios? It's a sapphire card so I don't understand why I should take the ATI bios...

anyway when I try the Sapphire bios I get the same:

OLD SSID: 0D62
NEW SSID: 1576

SSID MISMATCHED (error) press 1 blablabla

What am I doing wrong/what should I do?

which bios to use?

[Zoors]

http://www.techpowerup.com/bios/Sapphire.X800XT.256.Samsung16_040624.bin

That was what I used on my X800Pro VIVO 256, and it worked fine...
I think there was a note about "if u get error , you have to use the switch...xxx"

In the flash guide (http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/34/8)you find these words:

If you are trying to flash a BIOS for a different card then you will get a security warning that the BIOS does not match your card. If you are absolutely sure that the BIOS is compatible you can use the -f parameter to force flashing. For example atiflash -f -p 0 BIOS.bin

[jeehaa]

ok i missed that, sorry for that. I'll download the one you posted and try right away.

edit:

alright the flash worked, but I still have 12 pipes active. I used the ATIflash tool again; should I use the modified flashrom instead?

[Zoors]

ok i missed that, sorry for that. I'll download the one you posted and try right away.

edit:

alright the flash worked, but I still have 12 pipes active. I used the ATIflash tool again; should I use the modified flashrom instead?


I used the modified...

[JourneyMan]

Hey ya'll, I have a Sapphire x800pro VIVO PCI-16x and I performed the flash using the flashrom and the Sapphire x800 xt bios from the list, since there wasn't a single xt pe bios listed for PCI-16x.

The flash worked (shows up as a GT though), but I still only have 12 pipes. I've tried uninstalling my drivers and then reinstalling them, but I get no more pipes.

Acually, when I first did the flash it showed 8 pipes, them I un/reinstalled my drivers and it picked up to 12. I've tried the pro version with 16 enabled pipes and it won't even work, and I tried the ATI x800 xt bios, but it gives visual errors in my PC bios. I just want my 16 pipes, I'll OC the rest, so bios edition doesn't matter if someone can get me to 16 pipes.

[jeehaa]

I used the modified...

you've just made my day! it worked out well and now I have 16 pipes. thanks!

[dnalevelc]

i used ATI Tray Tools to make a backup of my bios and I flashed my card with the X800Pro 16P bios. I knew my card couldn't handle the speeds of the XT or the XT PE. I have a success. I played BF2 last night with 16 pipes and it was perfect. I even played NFS Most Wanted today. I wanna say thanks to everyone for posting your trials and tribulations, and thanks to you Wizzard and Flapjack for reminding me about the Tray Tools.

DNA

[kaikai601]

Hi guys this is my first time on the forum, I have followed the directions and flashed my ATI X850Pro with the XT bios...after I reboot and run ATItool it still shows as 12 pipes, but the clocks are XT speed...I've tried to reinstall the drivers, but it still shows as 12 pipes, can anyone help me please? Thanks.

[kevindangit]

could anyone do me a huge favor and post step by step instructions on how to create a bootable CD that takes you to DOS so you and run the flashrom? ive been trying for hours to make one to no avail. all the guides ive looked at are so vague... thanks in advance guys! (i dont have a floppy drive)

[wiggedy]

Damn I didn't see that this thread has 82 sides. puh.
I have a MSI RX850Pro-VTD256 and like to patch it to x850xt. there is one thing I didn't understand. There is not Bios for a MSI X850xt PE. Can I use every Bios file for a X850XT PE ? or do I have to use the one from MSI.

[jeehaa]

Hi guys this is my first time on the forum, I have followed the directions and flashed my ATI X850Pro with the XT bios...after I reboot and run ATItool it still shows as 12 pipes, but the clocks are XT speed...I've tried to reinstall the drivers, but it still shows as 12 pipes, can anyone help me please? Thanks.


I think you can use the modified flashrom (16p) here

[kaikai601]

oh can you post that here so i can download it please? thanks

[jeehaa]

try to use the search or search the flash guide:

http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/100/images/flashrom16p.zip

[kaikai601]

i have ATI Radeon X850Pro...which bios should I use with this modified flashrom 16p?

[jeehaa]

dunno, you can try the ATI x850 XT PE; as I understand it right, it's not nessesery to have one from MSI

[Jouixs]

iff the cut you make on the grafikcard melts or dosent work because i usede Car repair window kit ?
Comp wont boot ?
usede another grafikcard
it boot ?
Any one know this ?

[brandnamesocks]

Hi
I'm a newbie to all this flashing and what not but decided to try it becuase the techpowerup faq looked pretty easy.
Does anyone have experience with a connect3d x800 pro agp vivo? Would love to hear if you had any problems and what files you ended up using. Also the card i ordered was refurbished which I hope is ok.
TIA

[highwind86]

Hey everyone. Back when I first got my Saphire x800 pro PCI-E, I was checking up on this forum and thread very often, curious as to what the status on unlocking 16 pipes on the PCI-E version was. Its been so long since I last checked, however, and there are many many more pages. While I search through to see if I find any information regarding the PCI-E saphire x800 pro, I'd really appreciate if anyone knowledgable could fill me in. Has any new information been released? Last I remember, people with the saphire x800 pro vivo were having a hard time unlocking the extra 4 pipes using the bios flash. Some even used a hardmod with a special pen and couldn't unlock the pipes. Some considered flashing their bios with an AGP x850 xt bios but were reccomended not to, and many (like me) were told our card was an x800 GT after flashing with any bios. The weird thing is, several of the reviewers of my card on newegg.com claimed that since it was the vivo "red" version, they were able to unlock the pipes.

Has anyone here unlocked all 16 pipes on their saphire x800 pro PCI-E version?

[Jhaske]

Cheer for me!!!! I finally got one that is flashable :D. I bought an ATI stock card at
CircuitCity, after I had them match Compusa's price ($249.99) and then used a 10% off coupon. Unfortunately it was locked I knew a good card was out there so I proceeded to go to a diffrent CircuitCity for 6 days (on my way back and forth to work) till I got one.
I guess they do not pay attention to the return reciept??? LOL, I payed cash so I signed nothing...

Now for cooling I was thinking of attatching these to the mem chips http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=331984&pfp=SEARCH

What do you guys think?

[redcoat]

I flashed my Saphire x800 Pro VIVO with the bios of 800XT PE, and there is definite improvement in F.E.A.R. where my fps went from 72 to 85. Though when I use ATITOOL it says I am only running 12 pipelines??? Any Ideas? What is anyone else getting fps on games like F.E.A.R. with their XT PE???

[bobyjo]

I flashed my Saphire x800 Pro VIVO with the bios of 800XT PE, and there is definite improvement in F.E.A.R. where my fps went from 72 to 85. Though when I use ATITOOL it says I am only running 12 pipelines??? Any Ideas? What is anyone else getting fps on games like F.E.A.R. with their XT PE???

If you used atiflash engine.
Did you have these switches after atiflash -p 0 -f xxx.bin

If not maybe you should flash again.

[weskes]

Hi, first pardon my English!
Second, it appears I bought the wrong card, but I'm not sure. I want to use the softmod to open the pipes. Strange enough ATItool shows only 8 active lines, while everest shows 12.
Is there anyone who suceeded to open them on the same card. Here are two pic's of ATItool. I will post my bios here, but it's a bin file and I can't make anything out of it.
Maybe I could manage to open the pipes with a bios from Connect 3d for a x850 xt agp, but I can't find one. If anyone can help me, plz do so:respect:
Great work BTW;)

[bobyjo]

Hi, first pardon my English!
Second, it appears I bought the wrong card, but I'm not sure. I want to use the softmod to open the pipes. Strange enough ATItool shows only 8 active lines, while everest shows 12.
Is there anyone who suceeded to open them on the same card. Here are two pic's of ATItool. I will post my bios here, but it's a bin file and I can't make anything out of it.
Maybe I could manage to open the pipes with a bios from Connect 3d for a x850 xt agp, but I can't find one. If anyone can help me, plz do so:respect:
Great work BTW;)

Go to the bios selection page on this thread. There find a bios that matches your card but of a better upgrade.
If your bios is a 55kb size, download a new bios of any make with the same size as your bios.
When you flash your card read the post directly below this one.
One more thing, make a sig listing all the hardware you are running and out to the right of these components.
Make a note of which drivers are used with that component or the make and model # of that component.
List only the major components that matter::
Memory= Make & model
Video card= Make Model and which drivers version
chipset=Which drivers
With this info, we could offer a much better idea of what direction we should tell you to go.

[weskes]

Go to the bios selection page on this thread. There find a bios that matches your card but of a better upgrade.
If your bios is a 55kb size, download a new bios of any make with the same size as your bios.
When you flash your card read the post directly below this one.
One more thing, make a sig listing all the hardware you are running and out to the right of these components.
Make a note of which drivers are used with that component or the make and model # of that component.
List only the major components that matter::
Memory= Make & model
Video card= Make Model and which drivers version
chipset=Which drivers
With this info, we could offer a much better idea of what direction we should tell you to go.
I can't find a bios for a 850pro/xl/xt pe vivo, if someone can mode mine it would be great.
If you look at ATItool picture you can see that the value that should be F in my case presents an E. I've managed to flash the card twice, but the only thing that changed was the speed, there were still 12 lines active. Maybe it's not possible to softmod it. If you are willing or there is someone with the same card who did manage to mod the card, plz inform me. Ofcourse, I would be very pleased to be able to do the same.

[blsnelling]

There are a lot of posts in this thread that are either wrong or could be very misleading. First of all, this thread is ONLY about the AGP version, not PCI-E. The PCI-E PRO VIVO cards are NOT moddable. Only VIVO cards are moddable as well. Due to misinformation, I found out the hard way. It's way too hard to sift through everything here and find out the facts. If I understand correctly, many of the AGP X850PRO VIVO cards are locked as well. Correct me if I'm wrong. Does this include later AGP X800PRO VIVO cards as well? I would just like to help anyone coming along to be able to find the truth without having to pay restocking fees like I did. If you're not 100% sure about something, say so. No info is better than bad info. Thanks for listening. Rant off.:)

[damo]

Hi, i bought a Powercolor x800 Pro Vivo AGP and this mod worked perfect..Thanx , but

after the change im not able to run 3dmark 05 anymore.

It says i cannot run any demo because the graphics card will not support vertex shader model 2.0..the standard thing
wenn you have a graphics card only dx 8.0.
Before the mod i was running fine...after the mod i can play all games stable and with 30% more rendering power..

If anyone has same problems or can give some help .....

[raydawg]

Hi guys. I followed this thread for a while and eventually picked up an x800pro agp version for $150 on ebay. What I didn't realize (and the seller didn't realize either) was that the card was a VIVO! So when I got it I was pleasantly surprised and came back to these forums. I went with the x800pro16p bios, which flashes your card to 16 pipes but leaves default clocks at x800pro speed. I did that after trying x800xt pe speeds in atitool and getting a few artifacts. I have 1.6ns RAM, but strangely it was the RAM holding me back and not the core! Anyway, I was able to get the core to 520 eith room to spare, and the RAM managed a mere 545 before artifacting. So I backed it off to 535 to be safe. I haven't tried to see how far the core would go yet as I'm really happy with the 520 performance.
Anyway, to give an idea of the kind of performance upgrade I got: I had a 9700pro before this.
I got the x800 pro and at the time had an athlonXP 2400+. Stock 3dmark scores were 03-8900, 05-4100. After 16p and overclock I got 03-10900, 05-5300. Lastly, when I upgraded my proc, mobo, and memory to a 64 3200+, asrock 939 dual sata2 and corsair value select, I got 03-12000(on the dot), 05-6148.
So, all said and done, just overclocking and unlocking the pipelines and upgrading the proc gave me a 32% increase in performance from a stock x800pro :eek:
Not to mention the overall increase from the original 9700pro - 150%:rockout:
So thanks guys for posting up this howto. :respect:
It worked flawlessly on mine, and talk about a ridiculous performance gain - 30% over the stock x800pro - sick

[raydawg]

I flashed my Saphire x800 Pro VIVO with the bios of 800XT PE, and there is definite improvement in F.E.A.R. where my fps went from 72 to 85. Though when I use ATITOOL it says I am only running 12 pipelines??? Any Ideas? What is anyone else getting fps on games like F.E.A.R. with their XT PE???

don't forget people said we need to reinstall the drivers for it to actually detect the new pipes.
The only post you really need on this forum is the first one; it has all the directions and links even that you would need.
72 to 85 in fear sounds about right for an overclocking result to me. as you flashed the bios it is probably clocking at x800xt pe speeds right now I'm guessing. reinstall the cats and see what happens.

[Psyclone]

I have a question. I have an x850 pro VIVO that I want to flash to a PE version. In the original post, in the steps listed to perform the flash, it says to download and use the NON PE bios if you are flashing an x850 pro and a x800 PE bios if you are flashing an x800 pro.

I want to be clear before I do this that, you are in fact supposed to use the regular NON PE bios for the x850. I am just making sure that they are in fact different procedures for the x800 vs the x850, I don't want to mess up and hose my card.

[brandnamesocks]

Hi
I'm a newbie to all this flashing and what not but decided to try it becuase the techpowerup faq looked pretty easy.
Does anyone have experience with a connect3d x800 pro agp vivo? Would love to hear if you had any problems and what files you ended up using. Also the card i ordered was refurbished which I hope is ok.
TIA


Hi
So i got the card and it is a sapphrire r420 not laser cut and has 1.6 memory. I think i am a little lost on what to do next...i dl the programs in the guide, and am confused, do i make a boot disk with the flashrom files and a driver of my choice? And theses are the only files i need on the cd? (no floppy). And how do i save my old bios?
If anyone could list out exactly what to do, I am a real newbie here!
TIA

[flapjack]

Hi
So i got the card and it is a sapphrire r420 not laser cut and has 1.6 memory. I think i am a little lost on what to do next...i dl the programs in the guide, and am confused, do i make a boot disk with the flashrom files and a driver of my choice? And theses are the only files i need on the cd? (no floppy). And how do i save my old bios?
If anyone could list out exactly what to do, I am a real newbie here!
TIA

Read my instructions at Rage3D: http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1334053383#post1334053383

Here's is a copy/paste for your convenience:


Here's what you do.

1) Go here (http://www.ultimatebootcd.com) and download an ISO image of the Ultimate Boot CD.

2) Burn all the applicable files needed for flashing on a CD-RW (recommended, I went through 4 discs before I had all the files I needed). At a bare minimum, I'd have the original BIOS obtained from a dump using ATI Tray Tools, an XT PE BIOS with the core/mem speeds set to default Pro speeds, and finally ATIFlash.

3) Boot up with the UBCD. After booting, hit "F1" for "Mainboard Tools", right-arrow twice to bring you to BIOS Utilities, then "F1" again for the first BIOS utility.

4) After the BIOS utility starts loading, hit "OK" each prompt to accept defaults (these should be fine for most systems). You'll be at a command prompt that looks something like:

T:\dos\apps>

5) Do a: "cd t:\" (without quotes) to bring you to the root dir of the disc, then pop your BIOS disc in.

6) Run your flasher. Typical usage would be:

Step 1:
atiflash -f -p 0 xtpe.bin -newbios
(substitute "xtpe.bin" for whatever you named the 16-pipe BIOS you'll be using)

Step 2: (without rebooting)
atiflash -f -p 0 oldbios.bin
(no "newbios" switch, oldbios.bin being the backup you made with ATI Tray Tools)

6) Reboot into Windows and use ATI Tray Tools or ATI Tool to check if your pipes are unlocked.

Good luck!

[flapjack]

If the above link for UBCD is not working, try this: http://www.ubcd4win.com/

[brandnamesocks]

thanks alot, I'll try it right now!

[brandnamesocks]

Read my instructions at Rage3D: http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1334053383#post1334053383

Here's is a copy/paste for your convenience:


IS it enough to extract teh ubcd and burn it straight onto a disk or do i have to go through the whole pebuilder route?
thanks

[flapjack]

IS it enough to extract teh ubcd and burn it straight onto a disk or do i have to go through the whole pebuilder route?
thanks

You should just be able to burn the ISO using Nero or whatever you use for burning.

[Jetfire]

Hope someone can help me here...

I have ans Asus A8V MB with an Athlon X2 4200+ and an AsusAx800Pro VIVO card.

I ran the ATI tool to test the card at XT PE speeds and all went well, so I boot with a floppy, flash the Asus XT-PE BIOS from the collection.

All goes well using -f to force the flash. reboot the computer and nothing

I put a PCI graphic card in and set the primary graphic in the BIOS to PCI and still nothing... I made a backup of my BIOS but how can I flash it back?

I heard the term Blind flashing but what does that mean? The system won't even post if the AGP card is in...

Suggestions?

[brandnamesocks]

You should just be able to burn the ISO using Nero or whatever you use for burning.

Thanks for all your help...I finally got the boot cd burned, but now when i choose the bios or a couple other programs in the menus, dos loads for a bit then hangs and says "...sectors 0, assuming 63"? I've waited a bit and nothing seems to happen after that.
Is there another boot program that you can point me too or will any version of dos be enough?
thanks again!

[flapjack]

Success...Used XT PE AGP bios and forced using modded flashrom.
No laser cut on board, reached 540/590 x 16 pipes but card ran very hot.
Fixed with Arctic Cooling ATI 5 fan...

Max temp 63C....
Idle 43C....

What brand? BBA? If so, what is the first 6 digits of the serial number. Mine is 180529.....

[flapjack]

Thanks for all your help...I finally got the boot cd burned, but now when i choose the bios or a couple other programs in the menus, dos loads for a bit then hangs and says "...sectors 0, assuming 63"? I've waited a bit and nothing seems to happen after that.
Is there another boot program that you can point me too or will any version of dos be enough?
thanks again!

Hmmm, that's weird. The only problem I've had with the UBCD, is once in a while after using it, I'll reboot and get a "no keyboard found" error. I just reboot again and it goes away.

There are other bootable discs out there, but I haven't had much luck with them.

Can anyone else suggest a boot CD?

[bobyjo]

Hmmm, that's weird. The only problem I've had with the UBCD, is once in a while after using it, I'll reboot and get a "no keyboard found" error. I just reboot again and it goes away.

There are other bootable discs out there, but I haven't had much luck with them.

Can anyone else suggest a boot CD?

I have never ran across a CD-DVD burning program that would "NOT" make a bootable
CD-DVD.
Just go into the Easy Media Creator, or whatever you use. Go to burn a disk and select make CD-DVD bootable.
This way you will make your own.
You will have to copy all the files you need to flash whatever to the CD-DVD after making it bootable.

[dotagious]

I purchased my x800 pro agp a few weeks ago. I read this thread (among others) and thought it would be possible to unlock the pipes. It can not be done with this card unless you come across one manufactured earlier. ATI must be finally catching on. I now wish to have purchased the x800 XT, which is the same price (or cheaper), has 16 pipes, and can be overclocked to x850 Pro levels. In fact, every benchmark I've seen indicates the x800 XT blows this card out of the water. I should have done more research.

[Hicks-MofG]

I have an Power Color X850Pro (VIVO)

I have flashed the x850tx pe Bios using the flashrom moded and with atiflash i have also flashed empty befor putting the pe bios on.

But i still cant unlock the extra 4 pipelines ive reinstalled the drivers and still nothing I know the flash is working though because i have the higer clock speeds.

However when the card is recognized it just says X850 series. Any reccomendations.

on my last flash i emptyed and

flashrom -f -newbios -p 0 XTPE256.bin

is this command right.

i have also tryed it with just the -f and just the -newbios

[Sh0K]

I have an Power Color X850Pro (VIVO)

I have flashed the x850tx pe Bios using the flashrom moded and with atiflash i have also flashed empty befor putting the pe bios on.

But i still cant unlock the extra 4 pipelines ive reinstalled the drivers and still nothing I know the flash is working though because i have the higer clock speeds.

However when the card is recognized it just says X850 series. Any reccomendations.

on my last flash i emptyed and

flashrom -f -newbios -p 0 XTPE256.bin

is this command right.

i have also tryed it with just the -f and just the -newbios

Try without -newbios. Check with flashrom -i or atiflash -i to see if your bios is locked.
You have to see under the option Lock, it should say Yes if its locked, if your bios isn't locked try to flash with flashrom -f -p 0 X850XT.bin or atiflash -f -p 0 X850XT.bin.
Your card is AGP or PCI Express?

Sorry for my english

[Hicks-MofG]

Thanx for the fast reply i really apreciate it.

Its a Pci-E

[NoObStIcK]

hay guys, well, today I just flash my GeCube x800pro vivo agp card to XTPE, after I install the driver and ATITool, I run the 'Scan Artifacts' to check in ATITool to check if there is any artifacts, and then I saw this vertical Green dots band (3 bands, ATITool say no error), these artifacts show up in 3DMark 2k3 as well.

I didn't give up so I flash it to a 16 pipeline Prov bios, samething happens..><

I am just wondering does this mean I got defactive pipeline? Now I am back to 12p and everything is fine~ I hope somehow I can flash it to XTPE without the artifacts ><

I attach a screenshot of the Artifact~

[Hicks-MofG]

Try without -newbios. Check with flashrom -i or atiflash -i to see if your bios is locked.
You have to see under the option Lock, it should say Yes if its locked, if your bios isn't locked try to flash with flashrom -f -p 0 X850XT.bin or atiflash -f -p 0 X850XT.bin.
Your card is AGP or PCI Express?

Sorry for my english


Yea my bios are locked is there any way arround this. Even a hardware mod, i can solder but i would guess that its programmed in right?

[Sh0K]

hay guys, well, today I just flash my GeCube x800pro vivo agp card to XTPE, after I install the driver and ATITool, I run the 'Scan Artifacts' to check in ATITool to check if there is any artifacts, and then I saw this vertical Green dots band (3 bands, ATITool say no error), these artifacts show up in 3DMark 2k3 as well.

I didn't give up so I flash it to a 16 pipeline Prov bios, samething happens..><

I am just wondering does this mean I got defactive pipeline? Now I am back to 12p and everything is fine~ I hope somehow I can flash it to XTPE without the artifacts ><

I attach a screenshot of the Artifact~

Before you proceed to flash your original bios try to downclock your card with default core and memory (475 core 1000 ram), it seems that your card isn't lucky :(
Can you say us what is written on the ram of your graphic card? You should remove the stock cooling....

Yea my bios are locked is there any way arround this. Even a hardware mod, i can solder but i would guess that its programmed in right?

Try to flash with:
atiflash -p 0 x850xt.bin -f -sst

Before you proceed change the core and ram clock with rabit with your default values, or try to clock your original card with the frequency of x850xt and x850xt pe.

[NoObStIcK]

hay, i am sure my ram is 1.6ns, cos i checked them before, i guess i got a unlucky card, i might try to flash it some other time, but for now, ill just leave it like it is :(

[possessed]

Hi, first post on techpowerup :D

I've got a Connect3D X850Pro AGP, I've tried to do the softmod with no go (I had not much hope since the fuse strings on atitool didn't have the right "F"s on it)

A few days ago I've put a Zalman VF700-Cu and took a closer look to find confirm the existence of a lasercut on the gpu and there it was.

Now, anyone tried to do an hardmod on it using a pencil?

[harlekin]

hmmm strange things going on ;)
i have a sapphire x850 pro vivo (you guess right... with the false fuses...)
but i tried my luck by softmodding...
i took x850xt sapphire bios (from collection) flashed it... restarted
and what happened... i got 16 pipelines in everest... (im damned for taking no screen... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: )
then i installed the new catalyst... restarted...
12 pipes... :mad: :mad: :mad:
then i tried the other biosses... nothin happened alwys the same fuckin shit ... 12 pipes...

now... can anybody explain... why i got 16 pipes first... with the bad fuses... ?!?!
i cant explain it to me... and im trying to get them again.. but... i dont...
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

greetz harle

[KingsHead]

Hi All, I have successfully soft-modded 2 Asus AX800Pro Vivo with the X800 16p BIOS. At least ATI Tray tools shows the 16 pipes lol. I tested both cards @ the 520vpu/560mem clocks and both run well, if warm @ 71C.

Would I see any benefit flashing to the X800XT PE BIOS instead of the X800Pro with the 16 pipes enabled ?

Would the ATI X800XT PE Bios be better/same/worse than the Asus X800XT PE BIOS ?

Thanks for any/all replies

[Sh0K]

Hi All, I have successfully soft-modded 2 Asus AX800Pro Vivo with the X800 16p BIOS. At least ATI Tray tools shows the 16 pipes lol. I tested both cards @ the 520vpu/560mem clocks and both run well, if warm @ 71C.

Would I see any benefit flashing to the X800XT PE BIOS instead of the X800Pro with the 16 pipes enabled ?

Would the ATI X800XT PE Bios be better/same/worse than the Asus X800XT PE BIOS ?

Thanks for any/all replies
I think that you have to flash a modified bios of Asus X800XT PE, change the clock of this bios with rabit and set the clock of your original card (it's useless have a video card always overclocked, IMHO)

[BIOHazard87]

arent there commands that u need to know in able to flash the card?

[gorber]

Anybody have any idea what bios to use for unlocking extra pipes on the POWERCOLOR X800 VE AIW (AGP) 256 MB ?. I have shorted the lazercuts but am wondering what is the best BIOS to use...

thanks! /Gorber

[possessed]

let me know if it worked ok and post some info for us on the lasercut mod

[Safezone]

so is it correct still that ATI x800 PCI-E cards (ViVo or non-ViVo) can NOT be modified this way to unlock the 16 pipes?

so ONLY AGP cards can use this method, and the PCI-E cards must be modified with pencil or some other such hard-modification?

just verifying if there was any updates on this

Thanks

[BIOHazard87]

so is it correct still that ATI x800 PCI-E cards (ViVo or non-ViVo) can NOT be modified this way to unlock the 16 pipes?

so ONLY AGP cards can use this method, and the PCI-E cards must be modified with pencil or some other such hard-modification?

just verifying if there was any updates on this

Thanks

VIVO ONLY pci-e x800/850's can unlock with a bios flash using the modded flashrom

[Bloodwolf808]

I loaded ati flash with a bootable floppy, and I tried 2 different flashes. x850 XT/x850 XT PE.
Tried "atiflash -p 0 (biosname).bin" and i get this message.


Old SSID:0002
New SSID:0B12
SSID mismatched

ERROR 0FL01: Press "1" to continue.

Please help me thanks in advanced.

[Sh0K]

I loaded ati flash with a bootable floppy, and I tried 2 different flashes. x850 XT/x850 XT PE.
Tried "atiflash -p 0 (biosname).bin" and i get this message.


Old SSID:0002
New SSID:0B12
SSID mismatched

ERROR 0FL01: Press "1" to continue.

Please help me thanks in advanced.
You have to force the flash with the flag f:
atiflash -p 0 (biosname).bin -f

Try to see if your card is locked by using atiflash -i , you have to see under Lock, if it say yes you have to use the flag -sst

atiflash -p 0 (biosname).bin -f -sst

[Bloodwolf808]

thansk Sh0K im going to try that right now :)

[Bloodwolf808]

under ATI tool is says 520 core/540 mem but only 12 active pipelines... The mem and the core are the from the flash but I'm not sure wats wrong with the pipelines. Anybody help?

[FiShBuRn]

Can someone mod by Connected X850PRO bios to 16 pipes?

Thanks

[Xenn0X]

did any one try to flash a x800 pro to x850?
have a stable x800 to x800 xt pe (526/573)
but was just wondering if i could flash in a x850 bios into this card.

[BigD6997]

X800 and X850 series have different chipsets, correct me if im wrong

so i dont think it would work

[hogie]

I have been able to successfully flash my x850 Pro Vivo to an xt with fan control and run stable at those clock speeds. I have also flashed to the x850 pro modified 16 pipeline.
However, when my drivers are uninstalled it will show 16 pipelines unlocked. When in this state my ATI tools wont display 3d view. It will tell me to go to system, display, and then enable my graphics card. Unforetunetly this wont come up and I cant enable it.

When I do install my drivers it drops back down to 12 pipelines. The attached word doc shows my fuses, the 16 pipes, and then the 12 pipes again.

If anyone could let me know what I am doing wrong and what i need to do to keep all of the pipelines functioning I would appreciate it.

I cant figure out why it would unlock and then drop them.

Thanks in advance.

[Bloodwolf808]

I flashed the thing but only the core clock and the memory are loaded the flash i did the pipelines are still locked!! Please help tell me what flash to use.

[i r friend]

maybe it has been asked before, but 80 pages of posts is just a bit much :)

can laserlocked cards still be flashed to unlock the 16 pipes with the Gigabyte bios and flashing tool?

thx for ur help

[Fr8nkl3n]

I am going to try and unlock the extra pipes on my sapphire x800 pro vivo pci. Core and memory settings are already 475/500 so I may not try and overclock. The extra pipes will be a nice release and maybe enough work for the stock fan.

Now, after being very clear at the start of this thread how to do it, I have become concerned at the end of it that it may not be able to be done.

Can someone just point me in the right direction? Do I just follow the directions at the beginning and choose the X800 Pro 16P bios and leave the xt pe bios alone?

Thanks

[Fr8nkl3n]

Hogie
Do you reckon the latest drivers from ATI reset this softmod?
(In line with the comment that ATI may be trying to stop softmodding pipelines)
Would earlier drivers (say from 12 months ago) give a different result?

[LiNKiN]

Im not having any trouble with the current ATI drivers. Im using 6.1 and my X800pro
w/ X800 XT PE Bios still has all 16 of its pipes.

[hogie]

Hogie
Do you reckon the latest drivers from ATI reset this softmod?
(In line with the comment that ATI may be trying to stop softmodding pipelines)
Would earlier drivers (say from 12 months ago) give a different result?
Sounds quite possible....I must try the 6.1

THanks

[kevinb70]

maybe it has been asked before, but 80 pages of posts is just a bit much :)

can laserlocked cards still be flashed to unlock the 16 pipes with the Gigabyte bios and flashing tool?

thx for ur help

laser locked cards can be unlocked to 16 pipes only if there is NOT a defective quad which is internally disabled in the die and can never be unlocked.. there are two types of locks possible...

I just found out that $179 refurb ATI X800 Pro AGP 256MB [ordered from ati.com] was softmodable to unlock my 12 to 16 pipes now!!! Running as a X800 XT PE [looks like ati tool is giving me 510/513 w/16 pipes but I had been playing 543/543 with 12 pipes (I don't think i did an artifact test at this speed but had played lots of bf2 with no problems)

:toast:


http://www.overclockers.com.au/wiki/Video_Card#How_to_check_if_an_X800.2FX850_series_c ard_can_be_unlocked

Run rivatuner with those command line parameters and then check the 5th digit of the 990 field and the last digit of the 994 field... you can see if you have faulty pipes which are permanently disabled :mad: or which are unlockable OR if you are luckly like me, you have a VIVO card (yellow connector at the back of the card) which only requires a couple of BIOS flashes to go from 12 to 16 pipes and anotehr flash to put the XT PE BIOS in there....

[Cataclysm_J]

I followed this accuratly and went from Powercolor X850 Pro to Powercolor XT PE. It worked in the sence that my card booted but I still had 12 pipes and the fan wasn't running, I had to run the fan from Atitool. I used the modified Flashrom as I was ment to so where did I go wrong.

Thanks in advance for any help ;)

ATitool info:

CONFIG_DIE_FUSES 0xFFFFFFFF
CONFIG_SUBSTRATE_FUSES 0XFFFFFF9E
CONFIG_ROM_FUSES 0X3E1
GB_PIPE_SELECT 0X2724

[willem]

:confused: Hello,

I followed the instructions on the page to move the 850 pro to 850 xt. Everything went well, only after flashing the nbr of pipelines remains 12 in Atitool, it seems not to make a difference. What do I do wrong?

[jpadron_uy]

Hello, I have a Asus X800 PRO VIVO AGP, and after read instructions to unlock 12 pipes restrictions, no work :(.

Flash the bios whit Asus X800 XT PE (AGP), the flashing was ok, but after restart windows, and open ATITOOL > Overclocking > Active Pipelines: 12, system say that my card is X800 XT PE, but Active Pipelines don`t was increase to 16 ppl.

After, try to flash other bios, only to enable 16ppl, whitout modify speeds, and the same, rigth bios update, but active ppl is 12 :(.

My card is VIVO, don`t understand.

Any sugestion ??
Thanks.

[obl]

This worked great for me. Thanks!!
I bought an X850pro VIVO, Used AtiTools to dump my bios,a hex editor to edit the number of pipes, RaBiT to set clocks to XT settings and the modded flash tool to flash the X850XT bios.
After flashing the card things acted a little strange so I uninstalled all ATI software and drivers, rebooted and reinstalled all ATI software and drivers.
Now it is running as a stock X850XT-VIVO with all 16 pp.
This is an ATI built card I bought on sale at Compusa for $239.00 tax included.
Once I have acquired heat sinks for the memory and a better GPU cooler I will play some more, but I found all the info and tools I needed in this thread.
Thanks a bunch!

By the way, this was done without any board or GPU mods.

[Cataclysm_J]

obl, what hex editor did you use and how did you do it. I have the same card as you but the flash didn't work.

[obl]

Did you use the modified flasher? If not, it will ignore the pipe settings.
You can get it here:
http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/100/images/flashrom16p.zip

I will also attach a copy of my modified bios.

The hex editor was free and I got it here:
http://www.hhdsoftware.com/free-hex-editor.html

Make a real DOS boot disc and copy all of the file contained in the flashrom16p.zip file to the DOS floppy then copy the X850XT.bin to the floppy. (if you are using a floppy drive to boot to DOS)

The command line you will have to use to flash your bios is:
flashrom -f -p 0 X850XT.bin
(that is - flashrom space -f space -p space 0 space X850XT.bin) The spaces are important.

When you reboot you should have an X850XT @ 520/540 and 16 pipes if you use the attached X850XT.bin

Like I said in my previous post I did have to un-install all ATI drivers and software and reinstall to get everything working right, but I could have had driver issues prior to the card update and you may not have to go through all that. I hope :)

Also, if I did everything right there is a picture of the old and new bins attached.

[Cataclysm_J]

Cheers, I'll try that tonight. I did use the modified flashrom but i'll download it again to make sure.

Also i tried it with the atiflash using the -newbios command

[Cataclysm_J]

I used the bios there but I got X850GT. Tried reinstalling drivers but that didn't help.

This has been the best bios so far because the fan actually span whereas on the others it was just dead and I had to run it from ATitool. There is still only 12 pipelines but theres probably a laser cut, I haven't had the heatsink off yet, want to wait until I get the artic silencer for it.

[obl]

Well, I was hoping it would work for you :(
I guess the bright side is you now have a bios that makes the fan work :)

[Cataclysm_J]

If I take the heatsink off will the thermal paste have dried and gone hard? If not then I can put it back on again and the contact should be ok but if it goes hard then i'll need to get some more to replace it.

[obl]

Never re-use Thermal paste.
Clean GPU and heat sink carefully and apply just enough NEW thermal paste to cover GPU then re-install heatsink.
It is very important that you do not contaminate the paste.

[Cataclysm_J]

What should I clean it with, is there something I can just find around the house that will do it properly?

[obl]

Just wipe it with a clean cloth then dampen the cloth with 99% alcohol to finish cleaning.
Not rubbing alcohol (has too much water in it)

[yeba]

Hi, I just purchased an x850 pro AGP and flashed it x850xt nonpe. I got 16 pipes now. However, the fan completely stops at boot up and only runs after windows is loaded. How do I fix this?

Also, is there any benefit of using the XT bios vs the pro(w/ 16 pipes)? I have not decide if I want to stick with the x850xt bios or the modded x850pro bios with 16 pipes.

also, I removed the stock cooler and replaced the stock gpu paste with artic ceramique. My card is running cooler now.

Thanks.

[obl]

I don't think there is any advantage to using the XT bios other than the identification ( XT as opposed to PRO)? and it sets the GPU and Memory Clocks higher and you can do that yourself with RaBiT.

The Pro clocks are normally 499/499 and the XT are 520/540

[Cataclysm_J]

My Pro clocks are 507/520, its a powercolor. I've got it up to 600/600 but it runs best at 570/590

[obl]

There are cards that are clocked faster than 499/499.
I was just going by the ATI card specs. :) to try to keep the answer simple.

[GoodCanadianKid]

Thanks for this. I picked up a ATI x850 Pro VIVO at BB the other day and a Zalman VF700-cu cooler from a computer shop and went to work on this mod. After removing the GPU HS/fan I considered packing it in because I noted the 2ns chips. Then I decided I had come to far to not at least try.
My first attempt botched because I didn't use the -newbios switch. So I booted and was hugely disppointed to see only 12 pipes (although the ATITool and the driver figured out I had an X850XT PE...
I did some more research and found the switch and reflashed the card again. Success!
ATITool reported the 16 pipes. At normal operation I'm getting temps of 33 deg. Variable temps with different benchmarks etc. but all completely acceptable. I also found I could overclock it more that the XT PE speeds but have rolled it back to the stock XT PE settings as I'm happy to have a card that performs the same for under $300!
BTW - I found that one RAM sink interferes with the rear bracket on the Zalman VF700-cu... it was just one of the pointy lugs so I clipped it with some wire cutters and that corner slid under the bracket and the sink is centered properly on the chip.
Attached are some ATITool screen grabs and my board...
Final flash command (using ATIFlash) was ATIFLASH -newbios -f -p 0 newbios.bin for those who might be interested.

[yeba]

My x850 pro is not a good overlocker. Max core at stock is 530, with pencil vmod, it reached only 555. Max memory is 580. SHould i keep this card or have it replaced?

My previous x850 pro that I rma'ed could reach 580 at stock settings.

[dejanb13]

hello, is it possible to flash my x800pro vivo without floppy drive... maybe with bootable cd... and how to make one:confused:

[CrazyCanuck777]

Hello,

I've tried flashing my x800pro VIVO with flashrom 3 times using the flashrom -f -p 0 ***.bin command and each time I boot into windows it still shows up as having 12pipes . All 3 times Ive flashed it It said its verified and it played a song.

any help would be great :)

[lyno]

Hey, could anyone link me to a site which will allow me to buy a PRO card that has been proven to be able to unlock the 4 pipes and ships to the UK.


thanks,


Lyno


EDIT: forgot to add that it must be AGP

[obl]

This is where I ordered mine and according to their shipping page they do ship internationally.
I go to the local CompUSA store a lot and they are very honest and good to do business with in my opinion.
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=332729&pfp=cat3&tabtype=pi#moreinfo

P.S.
I did unlock all pipes on this card with no problems and no HW Mod.
With the guide here it was easy.

[lyno]

This is where I ordered mine and according to their shipping page they do ship internationally.
I go to the local CompUSA store a lot and they are very honest and good to do business with in my opinion.
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=332729&pfp=cat3&tabtype=pi#moreinfo

P.S.
I did unlock all pipes on this card with no problems and no HW Mod.
With the guide here it was easy.

Thanks for the quick reply, although it seems it's sold out and the "Limited Availability" note makes me think they'll not be getting anymore in stock, i'll just have to wait and see i guess :(

anyone know anywhere else?

[shoemaken]

I've just spend the better part of 4 hours trying to unlock my ATI x850 pro from 12 to 16 pipelines. Like many other people, I was partly successful becuase my card would be recognized as an x850xtpe with xtpe clocks, but I couldn't get the added pipleines. And the pipelines are what I really wanted. I flashed several times with many different bios (.bin) files. But I finally found a combination that worked. I went to the following link and downloaded the followng files from the bottom of the page.

http://www.overclock.net/faqs/44936-how-flash-your-x850pro-xt-pe.html

1. flashrom16p.zip (114.0 KB)

2. x850 xtpe 1.6 fan control agp.zip (34.3 KB)

3. before flashing anything, completely uninstall all ATI drivers.

4. Reboot to windows.

5. Reboot to DOS and flash bios.

6. Reboot to Windows and install ATI drivers (I used Cat 6.2)

7. Reboot to Windows.

I tried atiflash several times before eventually realizing that it was not opening the correct sized bios (.bin) file. I had to switch to flashrom. Make sure you check the .bin file size you download against the size verified at the flash screen.

I'm gonna go run some benchmarks now and see if all this trouble was worth it. I'll post the results when I'm done.

[shoemaken]

Running at stock x850pro speeds (500,500), I'm seeing about a 8% increase in my 3dmark03 score. Thats awsome!

[rogur]

If the theres a laser cut on my X850 pro built by ati can I close it with silver laquer (Like closing bridges on Athlon xp Chip to unlock multi)? My card has the rage theater chip and the yellow connector on it and I can use video in video out but it is laser cut..Dont want to trash it but will it work?

[testemo]

hi guys,

i am trying to do the mod on a "connect3d x850pro vivo agp".
so far i have not been successful :-(
can anyone recommend a good bios for this card? i'd like to keep the stock clocks but want to enable the 4 remaining pipelines.

and before i forget ;-)
how do i check if my card has 1,6 ns or 2,0 ns timings on the memory?

any help is much appreciated!

greets

[el_guapo]

Hi all,

Mockinson500 - I just had the same problem over the weekend. You sure you're not running an AX- or EAX850?

I got a new card over the weekend (asus extreme ax850pro pci-e) and flashed it with the XT bios but no luck unlocking the pipelines. After looking at the card serial numbers I realised it wasn't going to work so I flashed it back to the original bios. Unfortunately, like your card, my fan has stopped ramping up as needed. It seems to be running, but at a bare minimum, and like yourself my temps are much higher - somewhere about 70c idle / [crazy]c load. I can't run any heavy 3d stuff now as the temps just keep on climbing.

I've all the lower pci slots mostly cleared out (for a bit of breathing room) in the meantime, but I put in an order for a molex to fan power splitter today, so I'm going to try running the fan off that and see if it helps wih the temp problems (should do!). Then my only problem's gonna be finding earplugs ;) I'll let ya know if it does.

So can anyone else hazard a guess why this has happened? Is it some asus specific quirk? Any suggestions? I also can't find a copy of the original bios for this card - is it slightly different from the regular x850s?

Cheers

El Guapo

[jcc39]

Hey guys I haven't had a chance to read through the entire 93 pages of this thread, but I just got a BBA X850 pro AGP with VIVO. Is the information in the beggining of this thread still valid? Meaning can I flash my bios to the XT to unlock the extra 4 pipes? According to this article it says any X850pro VIVO can be unlocked, but according to one of the other modding FAQ's here: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcard/127 I don't have F's where it says I need to to unlock the pipes. So which is correct, should I bother trying to unlock, or just leave it be and overlock the card. Thanks for any help

[despiser]

It may be mentioned somewhere, but I could not find it so I'll simply restate: You should not flash to xt with a standard fan. Fortinately, I was cautious and immediately lowered my clock to 452/452 from 500/500 on a 850 pro and was suprised to see that the temp was 95 degrees after running 3dmark05. Also the score was still about 150 less than the 12 pipe bios overclocked at 533/540.

[DrunkenMonkey42]

Hi, This may have already been addressed but i dont feel like reading 93 pages of a thread. I am trying to flashmod my x800pro vivo pci-e card to an x800xt pci-e. Apparently the platinum edition does not exist for pci-e. I tried all four bios' that were listed in the link for this card, and each time windows detected it as an x800 gt, which actually diabled 4 pipelines and lowered the clocks. The one bios that was the x800pro but with 16 pipes was corrupted, and i had to reverse the flash blind. Has anyone had success flash modding a pci-e card? if so, could you post and give me a link to download the bios, or i can give you my email and you can email it to me, thanks.

[P5y]

Ok about FAN Control.

I did the mod to normal X850XT. I lost the fan. It didnt work. But when I went in ATI Tool, and set the Fan at 100% it worked. So basically I just need to start up everytime with ATI tool loaded overiding fan control to 100%. At 80% ther fan doesnt work...so I assume only 100% works. If I Turn off ATI Tool, and restart ATI tool , the fan says it will run at 81% and my fan stops working. So every time , I have to make sure the FAn gets activated by ATI tool at 100% :-/


Are there any Bios out there that are default set to 500 core and mem , but come with 16 pipelines?

[midas]

hello guys,

today i received my new Connect3D x850 Pro Vivo and i was more than happy that my the pipes not lasercuted!!!

so i wanna mod to x850 XT PE but if i search 4 the bios i must see that´s techpowerup´s database not included this bios :(

it´s a Connect3D RADEONTM X850 XT PE 256 MB DDR TV-Out + DVI`s bios which i need!!
(btw @ connect3D page are writen thats the x850 xt pe are new in their Portfolio)

can anybody help that i get this bios

thx anyway

greetz

midas

[bobyjo]

hello guys,

today i received my new Connect3D x850 Pro Vivo and i was more than happy that my the pipes not lasercuted!!!

so i wanna mod to x850 XT PE but if i search 4 the bios i must see that´s techpowerup´s database not included this bios :(

it´s a Connect3D RADEONTM X850 XT PE 256 MB DDR TV-Out + DVI`s bios which i need!!
(btw @ connect3D page are writen thats the x850 xt pe are new in their Portfolio)

can anybody help that i get this bios

thx anyway

greetz

midas

I suggest you download the bios for a Sapphire X850XTPE card.
X850 XT PE (AGP) 256 MB
This is if you are using the AGP format, if PCEe format just select that bios file.
Be sure you place the -f switch in the command line when you flash. This way you will not receive any errors about not being a Connect 3d bios.

[OOTay]

Ok Well i have an ATI X850PRO AGP SamSung 1.6ns memory that i just want the pipes unlocked from 12 pipes to 16 becuase i dont have a third-party heatsink. Can anyone please unlock the pipes for me? And here is the Memory id just in case you need it:
Samsung K4J553230F-GC16

Thanks ahead of time!

ATI.X850PRO.256Samsung16 bios (http://ootaysworld.com/ATI.X850PRO.256Samsung16.bin)

[whyteo]

Sapphire X850 Pro AGP with yellow VIVO thingy.

It took a long time. I thought I was defeated. :shadedshu But alas I triumphed!:rockout:

What I did was go for the modify the existing card BIOS using the HEX editior.
(Change the 0000070 and A to 60 from 61)

When you save it and boot up into DOS, and flash this new16.bin you get an invalid file error.
"atiflash -p 0 new16.bin"

Now, If you force the flash with the "-f" parameter it should work.
"atiflash -f -p 0 new16.bin"

Before I did this I also flashed the empty.bin bios - got (another) error message - so I'm not sure if this opened the way for flashing to succeed.

Finally the ATI Tools showed up the yummy 16 pipelines!


Summary:

Requirements:

1) ATiTools - to see if card is flashable, to make backup of existing BIOS, and finally to see if 16 pipelines are open.

2) Hex Editor to modify existing BIOS

3) ATiFlash to flash the new modified BIOS

4) Optional - Nero Burning ROM 6 - To create Bootable CD (Can use other methods)


a) Get copy of card BIOS using ATiTools
b) Make a copy on the desktop and rename new16 (leave out .bin - it will be there auto)
c) Open new16.bin in HexEditor and change 61 to 60 {six-zero}
d) Make bootable CD with ATiflash progam file and new16.bin
e) Restart computer (may have to enter main motherboard bios to boot from CD first)
f) change to CD drive (eg. "d:" )
g) enter: "atiflash -f -p 0 new16.bin" {that is a zero not a o}
(Not sure if you may need to flash with the empty.bin found on this site first)
h) restart computer (without bootable CD) and check pipelines in ATiTool

i) Ta-da!

Hope this helps - It took me AGES to get it right. :roll:

Ollie.

[nicus]

Hi all..

I want to flash my HIS Excalibur x800 Pro VIVO to a x800 XT PE.
A short Question, do the BootCD.iso works with this card? Or should i download the Excalibur x800XT PE Bios from the techpowerup Site?

Does the BootCD.iso increase the Clock? I think my Card can handle it, there is a Silencer installed.

Thanks for answers and sorry if my Question already answered somewhere in this Thread.

nicus

[eon007]

I recently tried to mod my AGP vivo ATI x850 pro to unlock the 16 pipes. I couldn't get the 16 pipes to stay unlocked no matter what bios I used. ATItool would report the 16 pipes prior to loading the Catalyst drivers. After the the drivers intalled...bam... back to 12 pipes. The flash does change the clock speed. I was wondering if anybody had this happen as well. ATITool reports 16 active pipes until the Catalyst drivers are installed. Any help?

[puntarenas]

Hi,

I ordered my first ATI-Card ever (ASUS EAX850PRO/HTVD) and want to try if I can unlock it as soon as it will arrive.

Just one question, it's suggested to use the latest x850XT bios for x850PRO boards to unlock the additional quad, but will it also be possible to use a x800XT bios?

The idea is to have the card slightly uderclocked (507/520 to 500/500) and keep it cool and silent that way. I wonder if there are any drawbacks because of internal changes from R423 to R481 gpu's that demand special bios settings.

Kind regards

puntarenas

Edit: Unfortunately the card was not moddable to 16P, so my question is obsolete!

[HellSy]

Sapphire X850 Pro AGP with yellow VIVO thingy.

It took a long time. I thought I was defeated. :shadedshu But alas I triumphed!:rockout:

What I did was go for the modify the existing card BIOS using the HEX editior.
(Change the 0000070 and A to 60 from 61)

When you save it and boot up into DOS, and flash this new16.bin you get an invalid file error.
"atiflash -p 0 new16.bin"

Now, If you force the flash with the "-f" parameter it should work.
"atiflash -f -p 0 new16.bin"

Before I did this I also flashed the empty.bin bios - got (another) error message - so I'm not sure if this opened the way for flashing to succeed.

Finally the ATI Tools showed up the yummy 16 pipelines!


Summary:

Requirements:

1) ATiTools - to see if card is flashable, to make backup of existing BIOS, and finally to see if 16 pipelines are open.

2) Hex Editor to modify existing BIOS

3) ATiFlash to flash the new modified BIOS

4) Optional - Nero Burning ROM 6 - To create Bootable CD (Can use other methods)


a) Get copy of card BIOS using ATiTools
b) Make a copy on the desktop and rename new16 (leave out .bin - it will be there auto)
c) Open new16.bin in HexEditor and change 61 to 60 {six-zero}
d) Make bootable CD with ATiflash progam file and new16.bin
e) Restart computer (may have to enter main motherboard bios to boot from CD first)
f) change to CD drive (eg. "d:" )
g) enter: "atiflash -f -p 0 new16.bin" {that is a zero not a o}
(Not sure if you may need to flash with the empty.bin found on this site first)
h) restart computer (without bootable CD) and check pipelines in ATiTool

i) Ta-da!

Hope this helps - It took me AGES to get it right. :roll:

Ollie.

I just got the same card, and according to the ATiTools i think i can unlock the pipes..

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/9100/aaa1nq.jpg

http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/1681/aaaa4mw.th.jpg (http://img169.imageshack.us/my.php?image=aaaa4mw.jpg)

What hex editor did you use? Because i can't find that 0000070 column.. i tried Hex Workshow and everything that is listed there but couldn't find the 0000070. I just want to unlock the pipes.. i don't want my core speed to jump up that much.. i'll increase that manually.

Since you got the Sapphire X850 Pro ViVo [2.0ns], can you give me your bios?

Just in case i'm gonna upload my bios..

[Radont]

Hey, great post W1zard. I flashed the bios to an X800 XT PE and my system detected it as such but tray tools still told me I had 12 pipelines instead of 16. Is this because I use the omega drivers or could it be because I used the winflash program?

EDIT: Nevermind, it was because I used the winflash app instead of the DOS one. I have all 16 now and my cock speeds are up. Stock fan and heatsink too.

[jaffers]

Hello All,

I have a Sapphire X800 Pro VIVO PCI-e card purchased in mid 2005. I tried the softmod using Sapphire, ATI, Gigabyte and Powercolor bioses for XT and XT PE of PCI-e flavor Everything failed and after the mod my card becomes GT because of the ASIC ID.

There is no laser cut I checked that and tried, ATIflash with -newbios and flashrom with -p -f 0 flags. No matter what the pipes are 12.

My questions are:

1. Are the newer cards that is summer 2005 and onwards are