Is Limewire Illegal?

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Well, many people use Limewire, and they have one version that is free, and one that you have to pay for. Are they Legal or Illegal? I'm not sure, so I'm asking.

[DaMulta]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUe-Ebe8dWU

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Is there anything "Free" like Limewire, but "Legal"?

[DaMulta]

Yes, demos, and a few other things.

If you truly want to download look into news groups

[DaMulta]

Limewire is ok, its what you download. I truly hate people that pirate games off the Internet anymore, its hurting PC gaming BIG TIME>

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Can you give me a link to something free?

[i_am_mustang_man]

the program itself is legal
what people use it for is oftentimes illegal, and as there is no way for the company to effectively block these "unwanted" transfers, the entity "limewire" is illegal

precede everything above with an "i believe" :p

i voted it's legal, cuz i think it is, for now, there hasn't a lawsuit against it specifically

[i_am_mustang_man]

Limewire is ok, its what you download. I truly hate people that pirate games off the Internet anymore, its hurting PC gaming BIG TIME>

my response to this is oblivion, where there was no copyright lock thingy, and it sold like hot cakes :)


i think a good step companies could take to combat piracy is to include better manuals again! and maybe some sweet maps, or posters, or something!

[DaMulta]

This is kind easy

LINK (http://puzzle.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/azureus/Azureus_2.5.0.0_Win32.setup.exe)

[OOTay]

go look up uTorrent and start a new life.

[Azn Tr14dZ]

So, if I get Limewire, and I download songs, would that be Legal or Illegal? Mustang? DaMulta?

[DaMulta]

http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/azureus/Azureus_2.5.0.0_Win32.setup.exe?use_mirror=puzzle

[i_am_mustang_man]

oh ya, forgot to recommend an alternative program!

lol, mos def azureus (it's not one word i'm told, but the US version of azure) is the best bit torrent tracker out there (imo)

from what i've read, of course

[DaMulta]

So, if I get Limewire, and I download songs, would that be Legal or Illegal? Mustang? DaMulta?
Illegal, safest way to do it is torrent, no one has been in trouble yet(I don't think)because it doesn't go thru a server.

But you can download music that is legal on certain website.

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Is Azure Legal/Illegal?

[DaMulta]

the program is legal its what you decide to download.

[DaMulta]

I'm posting this so you can look, I will delete it in a few minutes.

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Ok...

[devinXkillyou]

like others have said, these programs are technically perfectly legal. what can be illegal is the content you download. now there are plenty of things to download that are legal (not much) but its out there. Thats why no matter what any government agency does, there will always be different programs popping up everywhere. you cant block the right to share media as long as that media isnt copyrighted..thats where it starts to get hazy.

[Thermopylae_480]

All these programs are legal to have. They just provide a potential means to illegal activity. Most songs you find on a program like limewire, will be illegal to download. You may do so anyway, but it is illegal. As a general rule. If it's a major label, book, film, program etc. that you would normally pay for, but you are downloading for free than what you're doing is illegal. Yes, you can listen to music, and watch music videos on sites like AOL music, but notice the annoying commerical you have to watch everytime? That's how it can be free. Stuff from Limewire, torrent sites, etc. do not have this, and you don't pay a dime. If you want to be safe, buy your songs and videos from itunes, or some other similiar place. The filesharing programs, while they can be 100% legal, are often for more shady operations, of which I don't want to see discussed here. How they are used is 100% up to the user.

Do not stray more into the world of warez than has already occured please.

[Azn Tr14dZ]

I'm trying not to...I know that we shouldn't be discussing how to do illegal stuff...but I was just wondering because I didn't know myself.

[OOTay]

oh ya, forgot to recommend an alternative program!

lol, mos def azureus (it's not one word i'm told, but the US version of azure) is the best bit torrent tracker out there (imo)

from what i've read, of course

azureus is not a bittorrent tracker, it a program that alows you to contact the tracker and connect up with the peers and seeders to download the file itself. the tracker is what is alowing you to connect to people who are also downloading the same files and help eachother complete the download.

[i_am_mustang_man]

azureus is not a bittorrent tracker, it a program that alows you to contact the tracker and connect up with the peers and seeders to download the file itself. the tracker is what is alowing you to connect to people who are also downloading the same files and help eachother complete the download.

yea yea, we all know what i meant!

sorry

http://forumspile.com/Misc-I_have_the_dumb.jpg

[AshenSugar]

Is there anything "Free" like Limewire, but "Legal"?

duno if anybody pointed you to this but
www.shareaza.com
free p2p multi network app
also there is dc++(gotta google that urself)

both are good for finding hard to find stuff, like i found the last working version of cdngo a great little cd ripper i use to use that's dev gave up making for some reasion.

[AshenSugar]

go look up uTorrent and start a new life.

the best torrent client period, i like you, your not a bitcommet/bitlord user(exploitive clients suck)

:)

[OOTay]

the best torrent client period, i like you, your not a bitcommet/bitlord user(exploitive clients suck)

:)

cant beat the good old small bittorrent clients. i love utorrent cause it allows me to use torrent at school and i like to use their connection. :D don't tell anyone shh lol

[W2hCYK]

im gonna be the party pooper here and say this isnt what the forum is for, and to take this to pm.

[OOTay]

we are discussing software. not the act of chosing what to do with and what torrents to download. merely just talking.

[AshenSugar]

im gonna be the party pooper here and say this isnt what the forum is for, and to take this to pm.

there is absolutly nothing wrong with what we are talking about, nor are torrent or download clients illegal, sure they can be used to do illegal things, so can ftp,http,pop3 and many many other things, there are fully leigal and valid uses for torrents and other download clients.

linux distrobution is one good example, torrent are VERY common way to distro large linux distro's because it dosnt take large server bandwith to do so as all clients downloading are also sharing.
also games/betas/alpha's many times use torrents to distro their product, again because it saves on server bandwith and thus caust.
fear combat has a torrent on the download page
starsiege 2845 ATR(alpha tech relise) has a torrent as well as filefront download, again to help share the load and speed up distro.

if somebody started talking about warez sites and where to get illegal downloads then yeah that would be a topic for PM but thats not what most of us are dissusing.

oh and b4 you mention shareaza/ed2k/g1/g2 they are also all valid ways companys and people distro fully leigal content without having to use up alot of bandwith on their file servers.
leigal uses of all of these arent hard to find.

a band/dj can distro their tunes to the public without any caust or overhead other then the need of a netconnection to seed the file from, a software developer can distro his program/game to the genral public OR a slect few without paying for expencive server bandwith on a webhost.

[AshenSugar]

So, if I get Limewire, and I download songs, would that be Legal or Illegal? Mustang? DaMulta?

depends on the songs you download, if they arent sold in your country then your probbly safe, i use to download ausi and euro stuff i couldnt get here, totaly leigal.

if your talking about us bands the riaa/mpaa are involved with, then thats likely illegal.

the only time its not is when the band/group is giving away songs as promotions, this happens from time to time, they use 3d2k or g1/g2 links to let you hear their stuff so hopefully u will endup buying it :)

[PVTCaboose1337]

oh ya, forgot to recommend an alternative program!

lol, mos def azureus (it's not one word i'm told, but the US version of azure) is the best bit torrent tracker out there (imo)

from what i've read, of course

I have it, it rocks. I got it for linux distros.

[zekrahminator]

On August 4, 2006, the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) sued Limewire, alleging that it was profiting from unauthorised downloads.

On September 25, 2006 Limewire countersued the RIAA for antitrust Violations.
:confused: To be honest, I'm not sure if it's illegal or not.

[OOTay]

:confused: To be honest, I'm not sure if it's illegal or not.

again we come to this, its not the Software itself... Its the ACTIONS that the user accomplishes that are illegal.

[AshenSugar]

the program itself is, just as even kazza is technicly leigal, but how people use it may not be.


and the riaa has sued dead people (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/05/riaa_sues_the_dead/) , 12year olds (http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200309/msg00072.html), and people who dont even have a computer (http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=33044)

they will sue anybody and everybody, its scare tactics (http://www.dailynugget.com/2003/08/riaa_scare_tact.php) and extortion (http://digg.com/music/RIAA_extortion_tactics) more then anything else.

give them time they will eventuly sue everybody!

oh hell they even sue people in countrys where filesharing is leigal using US law(dmca)

[OOTay]

the program itself is, just as even kazza is technicly leigal, but how people use it may not be.


and the riaa has sued dead people (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/05/riaa_sues_the_dead/) , 12year olds (http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/200309/msg00072.html), and people who dont even have a computer (http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=33044)

they will sue anybody and everybody, its scare tactics (http://www.dailynugget.com/2003/08/riaa_scare_tact.php) and extortion (http://digg.com/music/RIAA_extortion_tactics) more then anything else.

give them time they will eventuly sue everybody!

oh hell they even sue people in countrys where filesharing is leigal using US law(dmca)

in reality they just sue ppl to scare others not to do it. so they wont end up suing everyone it would cost them to much and be ineffective. they just want to make a name for them self.

[KennyT772]

thing is they don't care about cost... all they worry about is what they are being paid to do, aka stop filesharing and pirating.

any p2p program ever made is legal. what gets each shut down is the average use of it.
hell how many people used winmx and only downloaded things that are legal.

[Solaris17]

i dont miond this just keep it softwere related guys kk? not y well last time i illegaly downloaded something was now(only for liability that way if forced to by the kgb i cant say names) and no why you should too here i have the illegaly downloded version of lime wire pro right here (linkey) ya that cant happen kk? thnx.

[Azn Tr14dZ]

Yeah, I just realised that it's the Software itself. I believe (not sure though) that when you install it, it asks if you use it for Copyright Infringement, and if you choose yes, you can't download.

And other (Super)Mods, if you want to, Close this thread if it doesn't feel like we're talking about the right things here. I'm not a mod for this Forum, so can't do myself.

[Thermopylae_480]

I'm going to close it. Although I feel it has not really crossed the line as a whole, it has spilled over slightly on occasion as well as constantly maintaining a presence close to the edge. It just provides to much opportunity to get out of hand, and allow for the discussion of pirating methods and practices. I would personally prefer that it was closed. ;)