Microsoft Windows Vista Goes Gold [Archive]

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11-08-2006, 08:33 PM

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Microsoft announced today that Windows Vista has been released to manufacturing. Vista will mark the first big shift in Microsoft consumer operating systems in over 5 years. With Vista, Microsoft promises increased security with an improved firewall and Windows Defender and User Account Control. Other fresh additions include integrated desktop search, Internet Explorer 7.0, Windows Sidebar, Windows Sideshow, built-in system diagnostics, improved gaming support, fully integrated Speech Recognition as well as support for Windows SuperFetch, Windows ReadyBoost and Windows ReadyDrive. Windows Vista will be available in four distinct retail versions: Windows Vista Home Basic-$199/$99.9(full/upgrade), Windows Vista Home Premium-$239/$159, Windows Vista Business-$299/$199 and Windows Vista Ultimate-$399/$259.

Source: DailyTech (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4862)

Darksaber

11-08-2006, 08:39 PM

wow...

talk about expensive

WinXP Pro only sets you back 150 Dollars...

It would be quite smart to go buy a notebook and get a free vista upgrade with these prices.

cheers
DS

EviLZeD

11-08-2006, 08:56 PM

yea there pricey the upgrade versions i dont understand how it works if u wer to format u wud have to install xp then use the upgrade cd

RickyG512

11-08-2006, 08:56 PM

dat is one nice case

newtekie1

11-08-2006, 09:01 PM

wow...

talk about expensive

WinXP Pro only sets you back 150 Dollars...

It would be quite smart to go buy a notebook and get a free vista upgrade with these prices.

cheers
DS

But that is for the OEM version of XP Pro, those are the prices for retail copies of Vista, we have yet to see what the OEM versions of Vista will costs. The retail price of the XP Pro upgrade is $199, the same as the price for Vista Business Upgrade.

yea there pricey the upgrade versions i dont understand how it works if u wer to format u wud have to install xp then use the upgrade cd

It is most likely just like XP and 2000 were. You don't actually have to have the previous OS installed before you use the upgrade. You can just boot from the Vista CD like you normally do when doing a fresh install. Then it will get to a certain point in the install processs and ask you to insert a CD from a prevous version, or maybe put in the license key from the previous version also.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/upgradeinfo.mspx

In fact if you look at that link, a lot of the upgrades require a clean install of Vista, which leads me to believe upgrading will be the same as it always has been.

Tory

11-08-2006, 09:09 PM

Oh noes, a whole $9 more tha XP! How will I ever save up enough...?!?

RickyG512

11-08-2006, 09:29 PM

any links to any websites that are selling laptops with the coupon/oem vista cd or anything like that free with the laptop ?

Darksaber

11-08-2006, 09:37 PM

any links to any websites that are selling laptops with the coupon/oem vista cd or anything like that free with the laptop ?

http://event.asus.com/vistaupgrade/index.htm

here ya go :)

cheers
DS

newtekie1

11-08-2006, 10:32 PM

Also, there are copies of XP on Newegg that come with coupons for upgrade versions of Vista. I don't know if the same deals are available elsewhere though.

Alec§taar

11-08-2006, 10:54 PM

Chewy

11-08-2006, 11:00 PM

I concider upgrading, ncix has the deal where if you buy xp pro you get the vista business upgrade for free, and xp pro is on sale atm.

but this http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=18851&highlight=buy+vista has me wondering if I will be able to rent a movie and copy it for future viewing "vista is so bs that it wont even let you work around bugs you find, or play mpeg4 videos."

Dippyskoodlez

11-08-2006, 11:06 PM

Ah, new OS releases always get me... I am curious, I will admit it, to try it out!

:)

* I like what I run now though immensely, in Windows Server 2003 fully patched current, & it does what I need & stable: Ms' got it right on this one imo, but that doesn't mean I won't be curious to try new OS from them!

APK

Yeah, I'm giving it a shot on my laptop soley because its a free upgrade for me to the home premium :D

My desktop will remain a windows 2000 professional install until I need otherwise....

bornfree

11-09-2006, 01:22 AM

Dippyskoodlez

11-09-2006, 02:15 AM

Thanks but I'll pass on anything from MS - especially their bug ridden O/Ss.

I wonder if that pretty Vista package helps much with BSODs, security breaches, identity theft, Spyware, phishing, etc. ? No I doubt it will.

Thats nothing new.

But my job requires it... and I really don't feel like splitting my 60gb laptop drive :shadedshu

GLD

11-09-2006, 02:34 AM

I found some downloadable pdf Vista coupons here at ZZF. DL them all now to be sure to have them: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Special/MS-Vista-Express-Promo-103006.jsp?intpromo=MS-Vista-Express-Promo_103006_HPG

newtekie1

11-09-2006, 05:49 AM

Thanks but I'll pass on anything from MS - especially their bug ridden O/Ss.

I wonder if that pretty Vista package helps much with BSODs, security breaches, identity theft, Spyware, phishing, etc. ? No I doubt it will.

BSOD, I haven't had one actually caused by Windows XP in years, most of them are crappy drivers. Though my OSX machine completely froze up just a few hours ago...

I don't have any problem remaining secure on Windows, I never get spyware, or have to worry about phishing. I can only assume Vista will be better...

Rodster

11-09-2006, 12:02 PM

Also, there are copies of XP on Newegg that come with coupons for upgrade versions of Vista. I don't know if the same deals are available elsewhere though.

Yup here you go :)

http://www.newegg.com/ProductSort/SubCategory.asp?SubCategory=368

Rodster

11-09-2006, 12:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by bornfree View Post
Thanks but I'll pass on anything from MS - especially their bug ridden O/Ss.

I wonder if that pretty Vista package helps much with BSODs, security breaches, identity theft, Spyware, phishing, etc. ? No I doubt it will.

BSOD, I haven't had one actually caused by Windows XP in years, most of them are crappy drivers. Though my OSX machine completely froze up just a few hours ago...

I don't have any problem remaining secure on Windows, I never get spyware, or have to worry about phishing. I can only assume Vista will be better...

You gotta love the generalized comments from Mac users like the wheels are falling off every XP system. I've had one BSOD in 5 years of using XP Pro and like you it was driver related. XP Pro has been very stable for me borderline 'Rock Solid' and I use it for heavy gaming as well.

I wish I could say the same for Mac OSX (v10.3.9) where I can't use Safari because it crashes unexpectedly. I've had to force quit many a program in v10.3.9 due to lockups.

The world ain't perfect and neither is OSX.

Now that MS has changed it's licensing regarding upgrades I'm looking forward to it now. :)

Alec§taar

11-09-2006, 01:29 PM

Thanks but I'll pass on anything from MS - especially their bug ridden O/Ss.

I am another person that has had good experiences w/ Microsoft's Operating Systems, & I have found them very stable as well as flexible & powerful. Ever since around 2000-2001 in fact. Moreso today.

I wonder if that pretty Vista package helps much with BSODs

LOL - probably not in that capacity!

security breaches, identity theft, Spyware, phishing, etc. ? No I doubt it will.

This much you can get around, though I dislike saying it, by NOT running IE 6.x (or later) & Office (any model) on your home machines.

Using IE is ok too though, but imo ONLY on INTRANET type applications, but imo, not yet on the "public internet"...

(Well, IE can be safe online on the public internet as well IF you cut off the ability for it to use ActiveX/ActiveScripting & Java/JavaScripting too, as the IE 6.x version Windows Server 2003 SP #1 (fully hotfix patched OR NOT) does).

APK

Munkul

11-09-2006, 01:37 PM

i remember 98/ME crashed lots; xp has never been bad with me (apart from bad drivers like everyone else)

Dippyskoodlez

11-09-2006, 02:47 PM

I wish I could say the same for Mac OSX (v10.3.9) where I can't use Safari because it crashes unexpectedly. I've had to force quit many a program in v10.3.9 due to lockups.

Yeah, because safari is such a vital part os OS X. :rolleyes:

Please, thats not even related to OS X. Unlike windows, Safari is just an APP that can be completely removed simply by dragging it to the trash. GFG IE. GFG. its widely known safari codewise sucks ass. It is not "os x", so I dont see how that relates to OS X's stability in any way shape or form?

Or perhaps I should factor in the countless moments Ive had to kill explorer.exe's process via task manager and start it up again..

Oh wait, nevermind, that is a vital part of windows..:rolleyes:

Rodster

11-09-2006, 03:55 PM

Yeah, because safari is such a vital part os OS X. :rolleyes:

Please, thats not even related to OS X. Unlike windows, Safari is just an APP that can be completely removed simply by dragging it to the trash. GFG IE. GFG. its widely known safari codewise sucks ass. It is not "os x", so I dont see how that relates to OS X's stability in any way shape or form?

Or perhaps I should factor in the countless moments Ive had to kill explorer.exe's process via task manager and start it up again..

Oh wait, nevermind, that is a vital part of windows..:rolleyes:

Whether Safari is an App it doesn't matter, it's broke. I'm not an Apple apologists and for all the claims in their commercials that says we're great...you suck. OSX and every App should work flawlessly since it's a closed enviroment meaning Apple decides and chooses to match it's hardware to it's OS.

I give a lot more credit to MS who has possibly hundreds of thousands of configurations around the world running it's OS.

Safari and all the force quits and hangs just proves the point that OSX isn't perfect. ;)

Firedomain

11-09-2006, 04:19 PM

ok..... may i just say.. WTF is Safari... & while im at it.. WTF is OS X! :laugh:

no serious gamer or computer enthusiast gives a shit bout apple.....
seriously, what good is it.....:shadedshu

when u have a look at windows how much more customizable is it.....
& not 2 mention a WAY better interface....:respect:

& viruses & shit are no prob at all 4 me. all u need is a descent virus scanner & it'll block all that crap!

i would switch to Vista but am currently happy with XP & dont wanna spend the $ & i reckon i'll hold out till it runs games better......2 much of a game fanatic 2 switch now...:banghead:

i've beta tested Vista & its pretty damn cool... just used Acronis partitionExpert 2 split my HDD & installed it on the 2nd partition.... just 2 check it out without messing round with my files.:D

purely out of curiosity i wonder how long it'll take hackers 2 work a way around the piracy protection....:confused:

I'll give it maybe a week at max.....
& from there i'd say after the 1st M$ patch it'll take maybe a day for the next hack....
after that i doubt M$ will be able 2 keep up with the hackers attemps...:nutkick:

Rodster

11-09-2006, 04:31 PM

ok..... may i just say.. WTF is Safari... & while im at it.. WTF is OS X! :laugh:

no serious gamer or computer enthusiast gives a shit bout apple.....
seriously, what good is it.....:shadedshu

OSX is the name of Apples Operating System and 'Safari' is OSX's Web Browser. And you are right if you're into games then XP or Vista (DirectX) can't be beat as a gamer's platform.

Firedomain

11-09-2006, 04:37 PM

cheers Rodster.

i meant no disrespect for mac users btw!!!!!!

......i wish that were believable.....

Rodster

11-09-2006, 04:40 PM

cheers Rodster.

i meant no disrespect for mac users btw!!!!!!

......i wish that were believable.....

Why ?? the way they behave about their OS and Computers and seeing their commercials they deserve it IMO. :nutkick:

killatia

11-09-2006, 04:40 PM

i'll wait for the oem versions to come out since they're the same as retail.

overcast

11-09-2006, 04:42 PM

i'll wait for the oem versions to come out since they're the same as retail.
Except they are locked to one computer, and one configuration only. OEM != RETAIL.

Rodster

11-09-2006, 04:42 PM

i'll wait for the oem versions to come out since they're the same as retail.

Me too ! :toast:

Has Microsoft said which version of Vista will allow for unlimited amount of Computer upgrades?

Dippyskoodlez

11-09-2006, 05:22 PM

Me too ! :toast:

Has Microsoft said which version of Vista will allow for unlimited amount of Computer upgrades?

Retail versions.

Dippyskoodlez

11-09-2006, 05:22 PM

Safari and all the force quits and hangs just proves the point that OSX isn't perfect. ;)

Yeah, IE's perfect too. Wait, isnt that a closed enviroment too? :rolleyes:

overcast

11-09-2006, 08:32 PM

Me too ! :toast:

Has Microsoft said which version of Vista will allow for unlimited amount of Computer upgrades?
Do you know what OEM means? And subsequently why it costs 50% less?

Rodster

11-09-2006, 09:05 PM

Yeah, IE's perfect too. Wait, isnt that a closed enviroment too? :rolleyes:

Again a typical Mac user response. It's easy for a Mac user to bash XP or anything Microsoft makes. You still continue to ignore or sidestep the issue that OSX is not perfect either and has it's share of faults, i.e. App crashes, hangs, force quits and even kernal panics (BSOD). :shadedshu

Judging from the Mac commercials one would think the OS and their computers walk on water and are absolutely perfect. Since i've been using a Mac since the first release of Aqua in 2001 I can tell you honestly they are not. Apple does make a nice product and a nice OS but not at the expense of me calling one OS garbage and the other a gift form god i.e. Steve Jobs :respect:

Microsoft and it's users know better and are not that smug or elitist and don't come off that way. That's the biggest turnoff for me as a Mac user seeing the bashing of MS's products at the glory of anything Apple makes.

Again as you have read on this thread which is about the Microsoft OS most users have been quite happy including me with XP and I look equally forward to Vista. I have found their products to be reliable and stable for the most part, but I would be an idiot to claim they are perfect as no product ever is and if you put any product under a microscope you will see it's flaws rather quickly.

Peace ! :toast:

Dippyskoodlez

11-09-2006, 10:18 PM

Again a typical Mac user response. It's easy for a Mac user to bash XP or anything Microsoft makes. You still continue to ignore or sidestep the issue that OSX is not perfect either and has it's share of faults, i.e. App crashes, hangs, force quits and even kernal panics (BSOD). :shadedshu

Yeah, I admin over 500 macs. I also handle over 600 desktops running windows.

I've seen more than my faiur share of EVERYTHING..

However, the windows side brought many, many, many more headaches. :wtf:

Now, if you have any experience admining a large 500+ pc active directory network from both sides, I'd love to hear your argument.

Otherwise, yeah, windows policies are a pain in the ass. OS X from a pure tech support perspective is like a Hospitals uptime, compared to an enthusiast PC uptime.

newtekie1

11-09-2006, 11:20 PM

I worked front line tech support for over 300 users(all I did was fix problems all day long), a pretty even mix of Macs and PCs, both can be pains in the ass equally. Though I can tell you after doing it for 2 years, I welcomed the calls to Windows machines a lot more then OSX machines. Most Windows problems can be fixed in under 5 minutes. When OSX works it is great, when it doesn't it is rarely a quick fix. Though almost all the problems I encounted were faults of the idiot user and not the OS.

Though that is just my experience with the two OSes. I am sure there are plenty of people that disagree with me.

Rodster

11-10-2006, 12:30 AM

Yeah, I admin over 500 macs. I also handle over 600 desktops running windows.

I've seen more than my faiur share of EVERYTHING..

However, the windows side brought many, many, many more headaches. :wtf:

Now, if you have any experience admining a large 500+ pc active directory network from both sides, I'd love to hear your argument.

Otherwise, yeah, windows policies are a pain in the ass. OS X from a pure tech support perspective is like a Hospitals uptime, compared to an enthusiast PC uptime.

Once again you sidestepped the issue. I'm not here to go toe to toe with you on credentials my point is neither OS is perfect in fact both are far from it IMO. If you have a preference or expertise in one particular OS you are more likely to favor that one over the other.

Again based on the Mac commercials I've seen and rants from Mac users is that Windows is utter crap and OSX walks on water. My angle has always been neither is true.