Tkpenalty's X1950~HD4k Clubhouse

[Craigleberry]

He should get a nice O/C out of that....
I dont mind that case either.... Need a side window mod for it but.

[tkpenalty]

He should get a nice O/C out of that....
I dont mind that case either.... Need a side window mod for it but.

450FSB, sweet!

Yeah a case window would be fine. I would like it if i could have the case window premodded... without that gay strip large rubber strip that people usually use. I just want a square window on it.

[Craigleberry]

450FSB Is my next target once I aquire some Good RAM. I am sitting on 405 FSB Stable ATM

[tkpenalty]

450FSB Is my next target once I aquire some Good RAM. I am sitting on 405 FSB Stable ATM

Drop the RAM to the lowest multiplier... then overclock from there.

http://img.techpowerup.org/071227/Benchmark.jpg

lol, i desperately need new cooling at this rate...

Craig could you help me with something? can you tell me how much of the northbridge is covered by the 120mm fan thats in the middle? I want to install a HR-05 + HR-01 Plus and yeah, sorta worried they wont fit together. It probably will but just making sure, since we have motherboards that are almost the same in dimensions.

[Craigleberry]

Man thats going to be a tight squeeze just looking through the window It covers half of the northbridge heatsink has plenty of clearance over stock heatsink easily enough to put on a fan if I wanted.... I will post exact dimensions for you tommorow arvo got stuff to do ATM. Here is a pic of it fitted after I realized that I had it 90 deg out!!! lol. I just noticed the temps on that core 2 bloody hell!!!
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/Craigleberry/Picture181.jpg

[tkpenalty]

Man thats going to be a tight squeeze just looking through the window It covers half of the northbridge heatsink has plenty of clearance over stock heatsink easily enough to put on a fan if I wanted.... I will post exact dimensions for you tommorow arvo got stuff to do ATM. Here is a pic of it fitted after I realized that I had it 90 deg out!!! lol. I just noticed the temps on that core 2 bloody hell!!!
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/Craigleberry/Picture181.jpg

OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOL. That made my day lol....

lol don't worry about measuring it. It will fit if the larger-in-width CNPS7700CU fits, in this case it does with the NB cooler. Looks like ill have thermalrighted half my system :p.

Might even get the cooling for my RAM.

EDIT: what do you mean craig by 90* out?

[Wile E]

Might even get the cooling for my RAM.

EDIT: what do you mean craig by 90* out?Be careful. If your ram has factory heat spreaders, you may have to remove them to use the coolers. Doing so voids the warranty. I recommend a ram cooling fan instead. The Corsair or OCZ ones or nice, or you can go the route I did, and use an Antec Spot Cool.

As far as 90* out, he just means it was facing up and down, instead of blowing out the rear exhaust.

[Widjaja]

@Craigle
I noticed you had the fans pointing up in one of your earlier pics.
I wondered what was going on.

@TK
Craigleberry's CPU cooler was installed 90deg the wrong way in the pic.
Thats was the funny part. . . . .wasn't it?
Erm what were you laughing at then?:confused:
What did make your day?:wtf:

Confusing

[Craigleberry]

Thats right I took great care in fitting it to the motherboard only to mount it in there and realize it wasnt facing the right way to vent out the heat. Thats life.(I just hope that the bloody mother of a thing dosnt warp my mobo) I think he meant it made his day because I stuffed it up!! lol

[Widjaja]

Ahh I see.
I'm wondering the same thing about my CPU cooler.
It weighs 798grms without the fan.
Waht does your CPU cooler weigh?

[tkpenalty]

@Craigle
I noticed you had the fans pointing up in one of your earlier pics.
I wondered what was going on.

@TK
Craigleberry's CPU cooler was installed 90deg the wrong way in the pic.
Thats was the funny part. . . . .wasn't it?
Erm what were you laughing at then?:confused:
What did make your day?:wtf:

Confusing

I misread it as CPU cooler running at 90*C lol... nvm... i was fairly tired.

Wile E, if you had a look on the previous page there werent any heatspreaders preinstalled, and anyway I was joking. However, as i kept my HR-05 instead of giving it away, i may buy the RAM cooling. But its not for a really practical purpose anyway, not like the memory will be able to take more voltage anyway if i decide to cool it better as the modules dont even run warm at stock speed.

http://img.techpowerup.org/071227/IMG_0023.jpg

Sorta fixed up the cabling, cbf fixing it up more. HR-05 installed, imho the push pins provide better retention compared to the hooks that were present on my old motherboard.

[Widjaja]

Yeah just installed the Tuniq Tower 120 LFB.
What a B**CH to install!

Here's the story of the fiasco:-
1:-I had to literally hack the edge off one corner of the mounting bracket since a cap was in the way.
So now it's only compatible with K8 AM2 and P4 socket types.:mad:
Next thing to piss me off.
2:-It says to use the springs on the screws, but hey the damn screws will not go down far enough so I reluctantly didn't use them.:shadedshu
3:-I didn't read the instruction manual properly and found I had to take off the original stock mounting bracket on the top, and spent a while wondering why the screws were too short.
4:-After practicing at being a contortionist (I can nearly bend my hands backwards to touch my wrists now) I finally installed it with some AS5 in between.
5:- Realised it won't fit with any side fan unless I place one on the outside of the case so I
have no real form of intake now.
Seeing the heatsink was secure enough without the springs I decided to fire her up and away she went without a hitch, glowing its pretty budget LED light show!:rockout:

Now for the reward besides my now double jointed wrists.

AMD stock 4 pipe X2 heatsink 54deg-53 core 59deg uGURU clock.

Tuniq Tower 120LFB 44deg-43deg core 49 deg uGURU clock.
10deg drop in temps over stock HS.

What do you guys think of the temp drop?

[erocker]

The temp drop is good. Personally though, I would't go re-engineering my system just to put a cooler on. You may want to try to find a universal retention kit (I think Scythe makes one), just to make sure everything is on properly. I would be a little concerned about not using the springs, you don't want too much pressure on something. I would take it off and re-check it to make sure everything is ok.

[erocker]

Man thats going to be a tight squeeze just looking through the window It covers half of the northbridge heatsink has plenty of clearance over stock heatsink easily enough to put on a fan if I wanted.... I will post exact dimensions for you tommorow arvo got stuff to do ATM. Here is a pic of it fitted after I realized that I had it 90 deg out!!! lol. I just noticed the temps on that core 2 bloody hell!!!
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/Craigleberry/Picture181.jpg

My God that is huge!!! That thing puts my Scythe Infinity to shame!

[DaMulta]

WTH is that?

[tkpenalty]

Yeah just installed the Tuniq Tower 120 LFB.
What a B**CH to install!

Here's the story of the fiasco:-
1:-I had to literally hack the edge off one corner of the mounting bracket since a cap was in the way.
So now it's only compatible with K8 AM2 and P4 socket types.:mad:
Next thing to piss me off.
2:-It says to use the springs on the screws, but hey the damn screws will not go down far enough so I reluctantly didn't use them.:shadedshu
3:-I didn't read the instruction manual properly and found I had to take off the original stock mounting bracket on the top, and spent a while wondering why the screws were too short.
4:-After practicing at being a contortionist (I can nearly bend my hands backwards to touch my wrists now) I finally installed it with some AS5 in between.
5:- Realised it won't fit with any side fan unless I place one on the outside of the case so I
have no real form of intake now.
Seeing the heatsink was secure enough without the springs I decided to fire her up and away she went without a hitch, glowing its pretty budget LED light show!:rockout:

Now for the reward besides my now double jointed wrists.

AMD stock 4 pipe X2 heatsink 54deg-53 core 59deg uGURU clock.

Tuniq Tower 120LFB 44deg-43deg core 49 deg uGURU clock.
10deg drop in temps over stock HS.

What do you guys think of the temp drop?

Its a good drop, but i'd recommend you get a new case and install the cooler outside of the system.

[Wile E]

WTH is that?Thermalright IFX-14

[tkpenalty]

Thermalright IFX-14

Its known as the best air cooler out there :p

Makes stuff like the tuniq tower look like weaksauce :p

[Widjaja]

Makes stuff like the tuniq tower look like weaksauce :p

Lol:D

The IFX-14 is a monster cooler and should perform better than my brick.
2.61Ghz is achieveable with the same temps I had when at stock settings with the stock cooler, plus my system is alot quieter.
Before 2.61Ghz was quite warm.:ohwell:

Since I can't use a side fan atm I'm going to get another 120mm for the front and make a panel where there are three empty drive bay slots and install one there.
Air will be directed straight at the CPU cooler and missing everthing else.:p

Searched and found a couple of threads about the installation of the Tuniq Tower and how people have found them very difficult to install on 939skts with the springs on after noticing it myself.
People said the really solid mounting bracket actually bends a bit with the springs on.:wtf:
I've attached it well enough to make sure it isn't going to come loose or bend the motherboard and is doing it's job well.:)

[Craigleberry]

Yeah just installed the Tuniq Tower 120 LFB.
What a B**CH to install!

Here's the story of the fiasco:-
1:-I had to literally hack the edge off one corner of the mounting bracket since a cap was in the way.
So now it's only compatible with K8 AM2 and P4 socket types.:mad:
Next thing to piss me off.
2:-It says to use the springs on the screws, but hey the damn screws will not go down far enough so I reluctantly didn't use them.:shadedshu
3:-I didn't read the instruction manual properly and found I had to take off the original stock mounting bracket on the top, and spent a while wondering why the screws were too short.
4:-After practicing at being a contortionist (I can nearly bend my hands backwards to touch my wrists now) I finally installed it with some AS5 in between.
5:- Realised it won't fit with any side fan unless I place one on the outside of the case so I
have no real form of intake now.
Seeing the heatsink was secure enough without the springs I decided to fire her up and away she went without a hitch, glowing its pretty budget LED light show!:rockout:

Now for the reward besides my now double jointed wrists.

AMD stock 4 pipe X2 heatsink 54deg-53 core 59deg uGURU clock.

Tuniq Tower 120LFB 44deg-43deg core 49 deg uGURU clock.
10deg drop in temps over stock HS.

What do you guys think of the temp drop?

So it was a challenge to fit but at least you didnt let it beat you!
Bloody good temp drop what thermal paste did you use?
Any pics?

[eidairaman1]

So it was a challenge to fit but at least you didnt let it beat you!
Bloody good temp drop what thermal paste did you use?
Any pics?



You think that cooler is hard to install, try a Big Typhoon on a SKT A motherboard, those small nuts that are used are a pain to tighten down, they should of used wingnuts

[Widjaja]

So it was a challenge to fit but at least you didnt let it beat you!
Bloody good temp drop what thermal paste did you use?
Any pics?

If it seems like I'm going down I don't go down without a fight.:laugh:
I'm using good ol' AS5.

I have no intake now except for a hole with the chorme swirly grill in the center of my case window.
You can actually feel the air getting sucked through it.
2.61Ghz doesn't make me think about my CPU now since it's at the same temp as when I have it at stock clocks and voltage with my stock cooler.

I'll get some photos of my rig once I get my camera back.

[eidairaman1]

If it seems like I'm going down I don't go down without a fight.:laugh:
I'm using good ol' AS5.

I have no intake now except for a hole with the chorme swirly grill in the center of my case window.
You can actually feel the air getting sucked through it.
2.61Ghz doesn't make me think about my CPU now since it's at the same temp as when I have it at stock clocks and voltage with my stock cooler.

I'll get some photos of my rig once I get my camera back.

With my Rig i had to mount the rear fans externally, System temps didnt change regardless.

[Craigleberry]

You think that cooler is hard to install, try a Big Typhoon on a SKT A motherboard, those small nuts that are used are a pain to tighten down, they should of used wingnuts
Thumb screws atleast:laugh:

[eidairaman1]

what i was getting at is the Mobo requires 4 mounting holes which it has, but it requires a I-Plate on back and on that I Plate 4 machine screws go through the Plate through the mobo, then you mount Bronze Collars on the screws to secure them from moving then you mount the cooler then the other plate then the small nuts which if you dont have a wrench they get messed up easily and tend to be hard to tweak due to the size, TT could have thought up of using Wingnuts (Easier to work with on such small projects)

[Craigleberry]

I know what you where getting at

[tkpenalty]

I know what you where getting at

Single sentence, replies to something thats totally off topic usually kills this thread afaik.

[tkpenalty]

Anyway, I am probably soon getting an ASUS HD3850 512MB! The performance of the card completely smashes that of my X1950PRO! Not only that, I'm rather sick of the buzzing cooler.

[Craigleberry]

Cool I would be interested to see how that goes for you.
How much are you getting that sucker for?

[tkpenalty]

Cool I would be interested to see how that goes for you.
How much are you getting that sucker for?

Well, i do have one at the moment; a HD3850. I COULD test it now if I wanted to, but i'm instead testing it as soon as i finish construction of one of my customer's systems.

[Darknova]

tk, welcome to the 3800 series :D

I got a 3870 the other day. Just fitted an Accelero S1 to it because the stock fan is like a bloody leafblower. Never heard anything like it!!

[tkpenalty]

Okay.,... *Happy dance*

My AcceleroX2 came off! w00t! Now, time to buy a VF700ALCU for it. Anwyay for the meantime i bolted on a 92mm fan onto the bare fin array! Much more quiet.

[Wile E]

Okay.,... *Happy dance*

My AcceleroX2 came off! w00t! Now, time to buy a VF700ALCU for it. Anwyay for the meantime i bolted on a 92mm fan onto the bare fin array! Much more quiet.Care to enlighten me as to how you did it? I still have that X1800XT floating around with the Accelero stuck to it. (Quite literally)

[tkpenalty]

Care to enlighten me as to how you did it? I still have that X1800XT floating around with the Accelero stuck to it. (Quite literally)

Yeah i thought so too... err carefully pull on the side thats facing the rear of the case of the card (unscrew all the screws first though on your card), try to just hold onto both sides. You should see the pads slowly "expanding", then softly losing grip. Like do it with the slightest angle as those BGA modules are easy to damage. Just wait for all the pads to come off. Apparently whats holding them is their suction. Anyway guys, what cooler should I get now?

[Wile E]

Yeah i thought so too... err carefully pull on the side thats facing the rear of the case of the card (unscrew all the screws first though on your card), try to just hold onto both sides. You should see the pads slowly "expanding", then softly losing grip. Like do it with the slightest angle as those BGA modules are easy to damage. Just wait for all the pads to come off. Apparently whats holding them is their suction. Anyway guys, what cooler should I get now?
Accelero S1. :D

[tkpenalty]

Accelero S1. :D

I was thinking about that :p. $37 AUD + 2 of my 92mm fans on low... looks very desireable :).

Well, atm with the modded acceleroX2... i can only hear tiny noise, which is the CPU cooler that loves to rev at max, but its not loud at all. So, this is the list of what I'm getting:

-Accelero S1
-Thermalright HR-01 (above average, ultra hot temperatures + humid day + intel stock cooler = BAD)
-Two sets of heatspreader for RAM

[Darknova]

Accelero S1. :D

+1

[Duffman]

damn my 2900's and no good options for aftermarket coolers!!!!!!!!

(The Thermalright didn't work with either of my MB's for Crossfire.)

[tkpenalty]

damn my 2900's and no good options for aftermarket coolers!!!!!!!!

(The Thermalright didn't work with either of my MB's for Crossfire.)

I'd lap the base of the stock cooler, however taking care of NOT reducing the inset of the base. Changing the thermal paste is a good option too.

[imperialreign]

I'd lap the base of the stock cooler, however taking care of NOT reducing the inset of the base. Changing the thermal paste is a good option too

seconded on the thermal paste. I'm still using the stockers on my 1950s, and the only thing I've done is put some real deal AS5 on 'em. Before, the heatspreader on the back of the card would be hot to the touch, but now it stays a little warm. Obviously, the GPU is on the other side of the card - but that heat had to go somewhere . . .

[Duffman]

Thermal paste has been changed. I've had three different coolers on these babies already, lol. lapping is sanding the base to smooth it out correct? if i can't find a better cooler that works in crossfire, i might try that.

I ran out of AS5 switching cooler configurations around. I switched the Thermalrights around a couple times trying to get them to work and trying out the VF700alcu's too.

[pmcalduff]

I got Crysis for Christmas and in a few of the more detailed scenes it brings my poor X1950PRO to its knees. Me no happy.:(

[Craigleberry]

Bugger I dont think it works in crossfire yet either.

[Darknova]

I got Crysis for Christmas and in a few of the more detailed scenes it brings my poor X1950PRO to its knees. Me no happy.:(

It brings my 3870 to it's knees lol.

[pmcalduff]

Apparently it does okay (not really good but okay) if you have two 8800 Ultras in SLI. :eek:

[Duffman]

Welp, I have yet another set of coolers on the 2900's. My buddy bought two Zalman ZF1000's for his 8800GT's and they interfere with the SLi bridge.

They work on the 2900 in Crossfire! Yipee!! So if anyone else is looking for a better (quieter) cooling solution for a pair of 2900's, this works well! Only other thing you need are some extra ramsinks for the memory modules on the top of the card and for the little chips towards the back of the card.

[imperialreign]

Bugger I dont think it works in crossfire yet either.

naw . . . still patiently awaiting the Crysis xFire patch :ohwell:

[tkpenalty]

Welp, I have yet another set of coolers on the 2900's. My buddy bought two Zalman ZF1000's for his 8800GT's and they interfere with the SLi bridge.

They work on the 2900 in Crossfire! Yipee!! So if anyone else is looking for a better (quieter) cooling solution for a pair of 2900's, this works well! Only other thing you need are some extra ramsinks for the memory modules on the top of the card and for the little chips towards the back of the card.

Does it run cooler at all?

[eidairaman1]

http://www.powercolor.com/Global/products_features.asp?ProductID=1730

Confirmation that the AGP 3850 512 Exists!

[tkpenalty]

http://www.powercolor.com/Global/products_features.asp?ProductID=1730

Confirmation that the AGP 3850 512 Exists!

Great news :D

Some images of my latest projects:

Bye bye DFI Infinity 975X/G...
http://img.techpowerup.org/080101/IMG_0014.jpg

Victory over acceleroX2!!! Fan mod btw.
http://img.techpowerup.org/080101/IMG_0072.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/080101/IMG_0073.jpg

Anyway, moderators/admins, please when you duck over, change the clubhouse title to the X1k-HD3k Clubhouse thanks, I forgot to ask you guys earlier (and I knew I should).

Now back on topic...

I am predicting that my X1950PRO is on the way to heaven, reason being that there is a faint hissing/squeal noise that I can hear when the card is loaded. Moreover, with the VRM units poorly cooled for a majority of the year, they might be about to fail, but I'm comparing them to mosfets in this case however.

That Fanmod that I did was for fun, it proved to be rather cumbersome and ineffective; having to turn up the fans just to get a decent cooling result was what I didnt like at all. The Accelero gave results in the middle of both fans at max and fans at low.

[ShadowFold]

Can I join :p
http://img.techpowerup.org/071231/Picture%20008.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/080101/Picture%20010798.jpg

[tkpenalty]

Can I join :p
http://img.techpowerup.org/071231/Picture%20008.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/071231/Picture.jpg

Yep :) How quickly do you do your rubix? (fix up those cables!! Shove spares into 5'25 bay!)

[ShadowFold]

Well tbh I have had it for over a year... yea lets not talk about that now :D

They are shoved as far in as they can :( that psu has some long freakin cables lol

EDIT: I updated the picture of my case I did a little wire management :rockout:

[imperialreign]

Can I join :p
http://img.techpowerup.org/071231/Picture%20008.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/080101/Picture%20010798.jpg

:D Nice way to ring in the new year taking pics of your rig for TPU!! :toast:

BTW - are those PSU cab les really that fat? or have they been somehow wrapped?

[ShadowFold]

The 24pin one is massive but the rest are sleeved in a pretty thick material

[eidairaman1]

New Year= Year of Rat, which in turn for me should mean a New BUild from the Alpha software to the zener diode

[tkpenalty]

New Year= Year of Rat, which in turn for me should mean a New BUild from the Alpha software to the zener diode

O_o...

Okay, just updated front page content to be a bit more relevant to the situation at the moment. I'm planning to make another thread to archive some of the information. Changes such as more information about the HD3850/HD3870, and updated information about the R600s, etcetra.

EDIT: Guests viewing, feel free to join TPU, its free and you are more than welcome to be a part of our community :)

[Duffman]

Tk, they definately run cooler. They maxed out at about 60c under load. I'm really happy they fit.

Is that a Coolermaster 680 case for that customer's system?

I too have updated pics in my case mod gallery.
Black Knight (http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/1235.html)

[tkpenalty]

Tk, they definately run cooler. They maxed out at about 60c under load. I'm really happy they fit.

Is that a Coolermaster 680 case for that customer's system?

I too have updated pics in my case mod gallery.
Black Knight (http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/1235.html)

690 not 680

[WakeUpDead]

May I join? I have just set up my new HD3870s in CF on my X38 board. All H2O C2D rig, with MCW60s on the HD3870's, left the stock copper sinks on, they work great!

Heres a few pics!

[Craigleberry]

3870's crossfire mmmmm nice

[eidairaman1]

Didnt have to use same bios on both to make em work properly?
May I join? I have just set up my new HD3870s in CF on my X38 board. All H2O C2D rig, with MCW60s on the HD3870's, left the stock copper sinks on, they work great!

Heres a few pics!

[tkpenalty]

May I join? I have just set up my new HD3870s in CF on my X38 board. All H2O C2D rig, with MCW60s on the HD3870's, left the stock copper sinks on, they work great!

Heres a few pics!

May I please have some images of the whole interior? :)

Anwyay, yes you may, but what sort of temperatures do you get out of the WC loop? how much difference are the temps with that W/C block on each of the cards?

[Duffman]

oh yeah, btw I never really asked to join either. Is there a initiation or anything?

[Widjaja]

oh yeah, btw I never really asked to join either. Is there a initiation or anything?

Yeah won't be a moment, all the members have to get thier X1K-HD2K robes on and light thier ceremony candles, then chant the initiation. . . . .

[tkpenalty]

Yeah won't be a moment, all the members have to get thier X1K-HD2K robes on and light thier ceremony candles, then chant the initiation. . . . .

^Thats in his imagination. If you want to, I'll add you now duffman.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

anyone got cheap hd3870 links?

[tkpenalty]

_FBi;593199']anyone got cheap hd3870 links?

Look on newegg?

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

none on teh egg near msrp.

[ShadowFold]

Recommended brands:
-Sapphire (Tier 1) (PCB construction quality, RMA warranty)
-Gigabyte (Ultra Durable, good cooling, construction quality)
-ASUS (ROG edition, good cooling, Company of heroes ftw!)
-Powercolor (PCS/Extreme, excellent cooling)


Why isnt HIS on there:eek:I had to talk to there suport team and they were really fast and knowlageable. Also who can beat IceQ :rockout: also my friend has a VisionTek 3850 and it says Lifetime Warrentie on the box.

[tkpenalty]

Why isnt HIS on there:eek:I had to talk to there suport team and they were really fast and knowlageable. Also who can beat IceQ :rockout: also my friend has a VisionTek 3850 and it says Lifetime Warrentie on the box.

IceQIII is a good cooler, but not the best :p

[Duffman]

Beauty TK! Time to go grab one of the signature images.

[Duffman]

hmmmm, there aren't any 2900 signature images...

[imperialreign]

hmmmm, there aren't any 2900 signature images...

I can make one this weekend if anyone wants one . . . also one for the two 3800 cards . . .

I made a 1950XT(X?) siggie a while back, Darknova was using it in his sig for the longest while . . . I've also done a couple for craigle

let me know . . .

[Duffman]

that would be great. I'm sure the 38XX folks would be grateful also

[Widjaja]

^Thats in his imagination. If you want to, I'll add you now duffman.

Lol
I hope you didn't take it seriously.:wtf:
Also didn't see you are rather new here.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

my 7900GS is all but sold ... hd3870 here i cummm

[eidairaman1]

Hellya, Lexy Pacific Corp just sent me the RMA for the HIS Pro, time to ship off tomorrow

[Craigleberry]

Another HIS bites the dust!

[eidairaman1]

this is the one i bought back in February, started having Problems in September, i put off RMA for awhile, finally shipping it.

[Darknova]

that would be great. I'm sure the 38XX folks would be grateful also

I want a 3870 sig!!! :D

[Craigleberry]

this is the one i bought back in February, started having Problems in September, i put off RMA for awhile, finally shipping it.

My old HIS gave it up within weeks after that and reading other problems about them I now refuse to buy HIS. My Sapphire is a good card cooling is the only let down.:)

[tkpenalty]

I do have a HD2900XT sig pic... its somewhere... I'll look around my PC. Time to make a HD3850/HD3870 one. May you guys please find me a clean and good image of a reference HD3870 and a HD3850?

[Duffman]

here's a decent 3870

[tigger]

just got my his 3850 256mb today,here is my 06 score with the card stock.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080103/3d06.jpg

[Duffman]

nice, is the rest of your system oc'd? you should definately be able to break 10k with some overclocking on the card.

[tigger]

My chip is at 3,6ghz and my ram is at 900 1:1 4.4.4.12.

Its not a bad score,the best i got out of my 1950 pro was 6k.

[Duffman]

definately be able to break 10k with a lil overclocking on the card.

I'm at 16k with my setup.

[Ben Clarke]

I guess I can join, now I have my HD3850...

[imperialreign]

I do have a HD2900XT sig pic... its somewhere... I'll look around my PC. Time to make a HD3850/HD3870 one. May you guys please find me a clean and good image of a reference HD3870 and a HD3850?

that's cool, then - by all means if you want to take care of them, no problem! If you'd like, though, I could possibly work one up for one of the cards - or if you'd like one for the 2400 and 2600, I could do that, too. Thought I'd offer some help, as 4-6 sigs could be a bit of a handful all at once :p

[tigger]

Whats the best program to oc a 3850? I tried ccc but it just kept crashing,it went up to 759 on the core and 2204 for the ram.

[Darknova]

Whats the best program to oc a 3850? I tried ccc but it just kept crashing,it went up to 759 on the core and 2204 for the ram.

Pray to the ATi Gods! lol.

I really don't know. I tried overclocking my 3870 but it wouldn't set the clocks :(

[sneekypeet]

Whats the best program to oc a 3850? I tried ccc but it just kept crashing,it went up to 759 on the core and 2204 for the ram.

Try rivatuner2.06 as it worked will on the 3870's

[tigger]

I did try it thanks,it just dont seem to have the test clocks button,i just have to apply it and pray.

preliminarily i got the clocks to-

core-750mhz
mem-900mhz

[Wile E]

I did try it thanks,it just dont seem to have the test clocks button,i just have to apply it and pray.You could still use the furry cube for stability and heat testing.

[tigger]

Does any version of atitool work properly on a 3850 then?

thanks wile e

[Wile E]

Does any version of atitool work properly on a 3850 then?

thanks wile eI would stick to .27 b3, just to be safe.

[ShadowFold]

Rivatuner 2.07 lets me get to 800mhz core 942mem and i've tested them for 2 days straight.

[WakeUpDead]

May I please have some images of the whole interior? :)

Anwyay, yes you may, but what sort of temperatures do you get out of the WC loop? how much difference are the temps with that W/C block on each of the cards?


I get 33c idle and 38c load on Top card and I get 31c idle and 37c load bottom card, both set @ 805/1347(2.7ghz!)thats all on CCC, I havent installed ATItool or anything really, I been running alot of OCs first before I install all my software, may need a XP reinstall at some point you know. Anyhow 75f room temp when I took all these readings! CPU's; E6850 runs 31c/44c @3600mhz and my Q6600 ran about the same on the p35 so I would think the same for this board too. NB runs the hottest at 40c/48c(hate to think what it would be if I air cooled it), but all in all they are good temps to me.

I just spent a year saving for this rig, I wanted the best H2O first off, so the LianLi Cube 343B case, with the Magicool 9x120mm RAD, and 3 pumps was as close as I could get without going into Phase Change or a Chiller units(may tackle it soon)! I did take off the Volt Reg H2O block, I didnt really need it on the p35 so I figured I wouldnt on my X38 either. So I have blocks on the; CPU, RAM(OCZ Flex), NB, SB, GPUx2, and all one loop with a res. too. I have MCW60s on the GPUs but I have EK full blocks on there way from EK(could be a week or more)

I think these pics are from my P35 right before I switch to the x38! I dont have an pics of either build, I should have(DUH), and I need to take some of the right side also, pumps, tubes, wires, lights and window too, just not as neat looking! Let me know what you think, I know its a bit overboard but I figured I can always remove stuff, its harder to add, so there you go.

As for "Same BIOS", I just popped them in(HD3870's), it started right up and I enabled CF in CCC, so Im not sure what your saying about that?

Here are More pics though!

thanks

[Duffman]

that's a pretty darn cool case. Never saw it before. Nice setup!

have you posted that in the case mod gallery?

[tkpenalty]

here's a decent 3870

No labels please :p

[Duffman]

oh shure, make it difficult!

Photoshop FTW!!

[ShadowFold]

http://www.hardwareluxx.de/nemig/artikel/3800/ARG_HD3870_3-4_m.jpg
BTW That is the stock design, I know, my uncle works at ATi he confirmed it.

http://www.hardwareluxx.de/nemig/artikel/3800/ARG_HD3850_3-4_m.jpg

[tkpenalty]

Shadowfold, how about if you post some pics of your HIS HD3850? I'd like to see how it looks like.

[tigger]

mines a his 3850 too,tk

[Duffman]

i'm sure it'd be ok if you post pics as well! ;)

[Apocalypsee]

I would like to ask something, between HD 3850 and 2nd hand HD 2900XT, which one should I go? I play games at 1280x960, with a CoolerMaster iGreen 500W PSU

[Duffman]

With your system specs, i would probably get a 3850

[eidairaman1]

Craigleberry, whats odd is the Sapphire board i had bit the dust within 3 days, POST Problems even in another motherboard, the PSU was over capable of running the card. I just hope when i get the New board it will be based on the 1950GT, but with the sapphire AGP 3850 and Powercolor 3850 AGP i may end up selling both 1950s and go for the 3850, hey it will get me in the door with DX10, Possibly a Vista Upgrade too on a Athlon XP 2500 lolz

[ShadowFold]

Some reason my pics came out SUPER high res so I will just post links

http://img.techpowerup.org/080106/Picture025.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080106/Picture026.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080106/Picture027.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080106/Picture028.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080106/Picture029.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/080106/Picture030.jpg

[Darknova]

Shame the links don't work.

[ShadowFold]

I will use image shack one sec..

[ShadowFold]

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5944/picture025xu1.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3959/picture026hr9.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/1392/picture027bt0.jpg

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5558/picture029sc3.jpg

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5334/picture030zf2.jpg

There they all are. Again sorry bout the high res I might have messed it up when changing the settings on my cam.

[WakeUpDead]

that's a pretty darn cool case. Never saw it before. Nice setup!

have you posted that in the case mod gallery?


Thanks alot! Um they are fairly new, this past summer I think. Very spendy but this will be the last case I buy for some time(2yrs+). I think they run about $350$400 stock, anything extra like windows, 5 1/4 Bay fan addapters or HDD bay converters, all cost extra! It was alot bigger then I though, but light for its size! But for me thats good, I have big hands and I find it hard to fit all my hardware plus my hands in a full-tower anyhow!

For that price I think it should have come with, removable MOBO tray(would have been nice), tool-less bays(would think so, Not) and should have come with a few extras(HDD converters,window, something!) I built this system around the case in a way!

Ive got some pictures I can put in the case gallery, but Im going to take more tonight along with my work area, and Ill try to post them ASAP. Ill let you know when Im done!

Thanks again, for the nice words, Im glad you like it!

[Duffman]

It looks rather large

[WakeUpDead]

It is! Though I do like that its big.

I have it on top of a double drawer filing cabinet, I just thought it would have fit, thats all! It hangs over the side about 2" on boths sides, however the wheels sit about 3" in from the sides, so it works out good!

It makes me think of the "WHOPPER" from, "War Games"!

WOULD YOU LIKE TO PLAY A GAME?

Man that shows my age bad, doesnt it! LOL

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

f X2's are beign released in Jan 2008, isnt paying 249 for a 3870 a bit much?

[Steevo]

I can has a HD3870.



Benchmarks proving this are in another thread, as well as I can post a GPU-z validation.



I have had the core to 855 stable using ATI's CCC, and ATITool to push fan speed to 65% and memory to 1250 as I see no need to push it further. It is a Sapphire 512MB.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

stock cooling?

[Steevo]

Yes.


I can't seem to run GTA:SA with my new card, it starts, then it exits, never entering the game. Anyone else?

[Sydneyboi]

Ive got an Asus HD3850 ROG TOP Edition 512mb non crossfire, what tools should i go about overclocking it futher? btw can i join this club.

[ShadowFold]

Ive got an Asus HD3850 ROG TOP Edition 512mb non crossfire, what tools should i go about overclocking it futher? btw can i join this club.

You should try and get the fan going faster, dl rivatuner and change the speed around till you get good temps. Or buy an aftermarket cooler and use that.

[tkpenalty]

You should try and get the fan going faster, dl rivatuner and change the speed around till you get good temps. Or buy an aftermarket cooler and use that.

Already has aftermarket i think... gets like 36*C idle and 45*C load... from a review.

[tigger]

Mines idleing at 21c atm,its a tad cool here tho'.nice temp tho' VF900 ftw :D

[tkpenalty]

okay I'm going to wipe the VF700s off the recommended cooler list for the X1950PRO... reason being that my X1950PRO hits like 65*C on load... not exactly good. (By the way i didnt buy a new one...) Looks like I'll need a VF900 Fatal1ty.. hmm silverish cooler... goes nice with the rest of my system imho.

[Sydneyboi]

Wat about the thermalright hr-01gt or the thermaltake duorb ,there suppose to be really good. cozz personally i reckon Fatal1ty products are overated.

[Darknova]

okay I'm going to wipe the VF700s off the recommended cooler list for the X1950PRO... reason being that my X1950PRO hits like 65*C on load... not exactly good. (By the way i didnt buy a new one...) Looks like I'll need a VF900 Fatal1ty.. hmm silverish cooler... goes nice with the rest of my system imho.

Am I the only one that finds a fault with that?

65'C is a good load temp for a GPU which runs a LOT hotter than a CPU. If you said you were getting 65'C load on a CPU then yeah, I would switch to a better cooler, but on a GPU? Damn those things can take in excess of 100'C for extended periods of time.

My Passively cooled overclocked 3870 reaches 65'C under load and that's a bloody good temp.

[tkpenalty]

Am I the only one that finds a fault with that?

65'C is a good load temp for a GPU which runs a LOT hotter than a CPU. If you said you were getting 65'C load on a CPU then yeah, I would switch to a better cooler, but on a GPU? Damn those things can take in excess of 100'C for extended periods of time.

My Passively cooled overclocked 3870 reaches 65'C under load and that's a bloody good temp.

Might just be the case with my card being somewhat ancient... I havent cooled any RAM thus, might be the memory overheating... However, the VF700 is okay. But not recommended, if you look at the AcceleroS1 or X2, their prices are at the moment around the same as the VF700s, and the Acceleros do far better anyway. (Admitedly, the AcceleroX2's bearing starts dying on average in around half a year).

[tigger]

My mate got a fatality 88000gts 320mb,boy did i lol at him,it cost nearly twice as much as my 3850 whiich beats it in 3d06.

Just get a normal vf900cu if you get one.The fatality stuff is just marketing crap.

[imperialreign]

The fatality stuff is just marketing crap.



yep. Most hardware/peripherals with that moniker could've had a much better name if the developers were a little more imaginative.

[tkpenalty]

My mate got a fatality 88000gts 320mb,boy did i lol at him,it cost nearly twice as much as my 3850 whiich beats it in 3d06.

Just get a normal vf900cu if you get one.The fatality stuff is just marketing crap.

Two stores, fatal1ty is cheaper... one more thing the fatal1ty is nickel plated as well as having a nice red LED, and a faster spinning fan... I hate corrosion by the way... Damn apparently, powercolor uses hynix chips for their X1950PROs... explains why they runs so warm compared to the samsung/infineons. See, the Fatal1ty can be purchased for $45 AUD, at one store while at the other the VF900CU by itself is $50...

The RAM heatpads took like more than an hour to remove as well =_=, I'm probably not going to purcahse the fatal1ty and just buy two packs of heatsinks for the RAM.

[tigger]

Fair do's if its actually cheaper than the normal version.

[tkpenalty]

Wat about the thermalright hr-01gt or the thermaltake duorb ,there suppose to be really good. cozz personally i reckon Fatal1ty products are overated.

Yeah I know they are good; price? Not good.

[Craigleberry]

Craigleberry, whats odd is the Sapphire board i had bit the dust within 3 days, POST Problems even in another motherboard, the PSU was over capable of running the card. I just hope when i get the New board it will be based on the 1950GT, but with the sapphire AGP 3850 and Powercolor 3850 AGP i may end up selling both 1950s and go for the 3850, hey it will get me in the door with DX10, Possibly a Vista Upgrade too on a Athlon XP 2500 lolz

That is the only thing that I am peeved about is I am behind ATM with no DX10:banghead:

[tigger]

I tried my 3850 last night on hellgate london in dx10 mode,it runs fine(crysis dx10 pah) and looks lovely.

[tkpenalty]

http://www.techpowerup.com/img/08-01-08/foxconn_motherboard2.jpg[/omg] Too bad HD3870X2s cant do quadfire... imagine they could though....bye bye nvidia's king perf crown.

[Widjaja]

Quad Crossfire with this monitor sounds good.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee274/WiFry/CurvedMonitor.jpg

[Danzo]

A Moderator recommended me to this forum to see if I could get some help. I just recently purchased a HD 2900 PRO 512mb 256Bit card that I assumed would have been the 512Bit version but Voilla it is 256 Bit (Intentions were to flash to XT). Anyways my question is has anyone been able to overclock this with Windows Vista? Riva tuner does not recognize the drivers and therefore will not work. Ati tools will not work because of Vista and ATI tray tools just sits there and gives me the default clock speed and also will not adjust. AMD Guru gives me BSOD. There is no option even in the CCC for overdrive. I have been reading for 2 days on how to do this and I am stumped. Any help is appreciated. I am new at Video Card Overclocking and would like to get out of the 7000 range on 3d Mark 06 ;)

http://img.techpowerup.org/080109/shot.jpg

Thanks,
Dan

My system is:
E6750 Running at 3.2
2 Gig Adata Extreme
Eagle Tech 700 Watts PSU
TT Armor case
TT MAX ORB 2
1 SATA HDD
1 SATA DVD
Windows Vista 32

[imperialreign]

Well, if the card doesn't support hardware monitoring (which, according to my run-ins with ATI tech support, the card must be listed as an 'XT' model for hardware monitoring) - CCC won't allow Overdrive.

here - give ATI Tool 0.27 beta3 a try: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=45596

[Danzo]

Thanks for the advice I had tried that version as well. It detects card temps but when I try to make adjustments it just defaults back to its preset clock speed. Grrr! how frustrating. It also looks like several others have the same problem as well with that version. Do you have any other ideas?

[tigger]

I'm glad i put the vf900 on my 3850,the stock cooler was causing my card to lock up in games.It does'nt seem to have any control of the stock fan speed at all,it seems it was staying at low speed even in games.The temp never seems to go over 50c now.

[imperialreign]

Just to make sure - do you have the Hotkey Poller enabled?

I get the feeling it's Vista related (sorry to say); best I can figure from dredging through the ATI Tool beta threads would be to try and install beta4: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4109.html and then copy the ATItool.exe from beta 1: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=560214&postcount=140

not sure if that'll work for you or now - but it seems to clear up similar issues for other beta users. Hopefully, someone else will pop in here that has a better idea of what's going on.

[Dangle]

Ok, HD DVD is getting whooped and I'm going to be forced to ditch the HD DVD clubhouse pretty soon since there will be no HD DVD to have a club devoted to. I own a 2900XT and am an ATI fanboy. I would like to join this club.

[tkpenalty]

Ok, HD DVD is getting whooped and I'm going to be forced to ditch the HD DVD clubhouse pretty soon since there will be no HD DVD to have a club devoted to. I own a 2900XT and am an ATI fanboy. I would like to join this club.

Yep you can :)

[Wile E]

@Danzo - Have you tried the AMD GPU Clock Tool? No voltage adjustments, but it might let you at least clock it a little.

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/536/AMD_GPU_Clock_Tool_v0.7.html

If all else fails, can you exchange the card?

[tkpenalty]

lol acceleroS1... how can I say it.... is FUCKING AWESOME! Damn silent, blows my AcceleroX2 out of the water in terms of performance, and is very cheap as well! Man, my PC is... almost virtually silent, only one more thing... *attatches fanmate* done.

[Darknova]

lol acceleroS1... how can I say it.... is FUCKING AWESOME! Damn silent, blows my AcceleroX2 out of the water in terms of performance, and is very cheap as well! Man, my PC is... almost virtually silent, only one more thing... *attatches fanmate* done.

Haha, it's awesome is it not? Keeps my overclocked 3870 at 40'C idle, and never breaks 55'c under load.

[tkpenalty]

Haha, it's awesome is it not? Keeps my overclocked 3870 at 40'C idle, and never breaks 55'c under load.

:rockout::rockout::rockout::rockout::rockout::rock out:

I think we should have a slower version of that emoticon, being more animated XD. I'll post photos of the updated build later... looks really sweet :D

[Dangle]

You guys checked Futuremark hall of fame? 2900XT holds the top 10 highest '06 scores.

[tkpenalty]

You guys checked Futuremark hall of fame? 2900XT holds the top 10 highest '06 scores.

It IS a beast in 3DMarks for sure...

[TonyStark]

It IS a beast with AA & AF turned off...

*fixed ;)

[AciDCooL]

Highest I get on air cooling:

http://www.acidcool.nl/stabiel5.JPG

[tkpenalty]

Sigh... I'm in a rather irky mood atm so please dont be offended. But guys, refrain from those ridiculously short posts that are one word. Such as "fixed", there is absolutely no need to type something like that.

So guys... yes, as of late I've noticed a small and faint hissing noise, emmited from the rear of the X1950PRO (thanks to my cooling equipment being quieter and quieter...). Its that one choke, for sure on the rear of the card. Anyway, my question is, what does a hissing ferrite choke mean to my X1950PRO? Its a SMD by the way.

A rather tiny one too, only around 1mm tall and around 2mm wide and 3mm long (guessing), it has an exposed coil which is covered by a thin layer of film.

EDIT: What does a hissing ferrite choke do to the voltage as well?

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=607021#post607021 Thread's here. I'm afraid my X1950PRO MAY be on its last legs. Any electronics experts here?

[DaMulta]

My new chrome Maze4 will be here today.(Should I didn't know FedEX delivered on Sat.)

Should I cut the side out of the stock cooler and place the block where the original copper was?

[tkpenalty]

lol guys... sorry to break this to you but I'm switching to a 8800GT 512MB very soon - BUT that doesnt anything to the clubhouse! I'll keep my X1950PRO here.

[Darknova]

lol guys... sorry to break this to you but I'm switching to a 8800GT 512MB very soon - BUT that doesnt anything to the clubhouse! I'll keep my X1950PRO here.

Get him guys!!! lol

[tkpenalty]

Or should I get a HD3870...

[Darknova]

Or should I get a HD3870...

3870!!! I love mine :D

[tkpenalty]

Nah 8800... shorter PCB more performance.

[Boneface]

I just got my sapphire HD3850 512 can i join? lol. I did have a 7800gt extreme and what a difference, love it

[Wile E]

lol guys... sorry to break this to you but I'm switching to a 8800GT 512MB very soon - BUT that doesnt anything to the clubhouse! I'll keep my X1950PRO here.lol. I already switched to a Palit 8800GT 1GB. Still have my 2900, but this Palit blows it away.

[ShadowFold]

TK get a HD 3870! It runs alot cooler and you only get more frames if you have a QX9550 at 6ghz anyway..

[imperialreign]

lol guys... sorry to break this to you but I'm switching to a 8800GT 512MB very soon - BUT that doesnt anything to the clubhouse! I'll keep my X1950PRO here.

treason?! :twitch:

[peach1971]

Anyone here already owning a HIS HD 3850 IceQ 3 Turbo (X)?
Turbo: 720/1820(910)MHz, Turbo X:735/1960(980)MHz

http://www.alternate.de/pix/prodpic/450x450/j/jbxfm2_1.jpg

How about the OC headroom on these cards?

[ShadowFold]

Anyone here already owning a HIS HD 3850 IceQ 3 Turbo (X)?
Turbo: 720/1820(910)MHz, Turbo X:735/1960(980)MHz

http://www.alternate.de/pix/prodpic/450x450/j/jbxfm2_1.jpg

How about the OC headroom on these cards?

I have the Turbo HIS IceQ 3850 512mb

I have mine at 786core and 998mem 24/7 stable.

[peach1971]

What about your temps and fan sound?

[ShadowFold]

At 100% fan speed its not silent but its about as loud as my old 7600GS at 20%. I can sleep with the fan on 100% lol. Temps are up to 45C under full load and around 34-29c depending on the day.

[tigger]

I've just done the vmod on my 3850,my 3d vgpu is now 1.36v and it benches at 790 upto now,am gonna try higher shortly.

[ShadowFold]

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/7h2wd/

Heres my GPUZ-Validation. BTW it says my mem is at 936 for some reason... wtf rivatuner and ati tool say 998mhz

[ShadowFold]

lol I havent touched my voltages once.

[peach1971]

Cheapest price here 182.08 EUR = 270.72 US$.
How much did you pay for that HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ Turbo in the US?

[ShadowFold]

I payed 220$ with a 20$ rebate that I got 2 weeks later. I would still pay that much for it tho, with my slow ass X2 4200+ 2.2ghz I can still play everygame on max settings at 1440x900.

[peach1971]

Okay, that´s it:
Gigabyte MA790X-DS4, Brisbane 5000+ BE and HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ Turbo: Get ready for shipping! :rockout: :toast:

[ShadowFold]

Nice! I know that from now on I will not buy a card unless it has IceQ it freaking owns :rockout:

[thegave]

My X1950Pro AGP arrived today... Can I join the club please?

Got my core up to 654MHz... Don't think it's temps holding me back, can anyone point me in the direction of a pencil voltmod for Sapphire X1950Pro 512mb AGP? It's the one with two molex connectors. I've been looking high and low and can't find any for that specific card.

[tkpenalty]

My X1950Pro AGP arrived today... Can I join the club please?

Got my core up to 654MHz... Don't think it's temps holding me back, can anyone point me in the direction of a pencil voltmod for Sapphire X1950Pro 512mb AGP? It's the one with two molex connectors. I've been looking high and low and can't find any for that specific card.

Yep you can. I'd replace the cooling, but in your case the cooling isnt holding you back at all.

[tkpenalty]

TK get a HD 3870! It runs alot cooler and you only get more frames if you have a QX9550 at 6ghz anyway..

:rolleyes:

lol. More frames on an 8800GT plz. Need more arguments than that.

[Wile E]

:rolleyes:

lol. More frames on an 8800GT plz. Need more arguments than that.I can't say anything bad about either the 3870, or my Palit 8800GT.

Well, I can say one bad thing about the 3870 (and my 2900, for that matter), once you enable AA, it falls on it's face. Whereas the 8800GT and 3870 trade blows with no AA, the 8800 walks away once it's enabled. So I guess the big question is, do you like AA?

[tkpenalty]

Yeah I love AA... jaggies make me scream.

[Darknova]

:rolleyes:

lol. More frames on an 8800GT plz. Need more arguments than that.

As as been shown in a number of Crysis benchmarks. the 3870 is much more stable with it's FPS, much less fluctuation. the 8800 has higher max FPS, but drops to levels lower than the 3870.
It draws less power.
GDDR4 (less power again).
Potential for Crossfire X

Any frames over 60fps is just about making your e-peen bigger lol.

[tkpenalty]

As as been shown in a number of Crysis benchmarks. the 3870 is much more stable with it's FPS, much less fluctuation. the 8800 has higher max FPS, but drops to levels lower than the 3870.
It draws less power.
GDDR4 (less power again).
Potential for Crossfire X

Any frames over 60fps is just about making your e-peen bigger lol.

not convincing enough

[Widjaja]

Instead of higher than noticable fps GPU manufacturers should all be aiming for steady 60fps.

[miamimuscleboy]

Hey . check my pics on gallery crossfired 2900s at 18002 3dmark 06 , Took forever to get these F---kers working but an x38 mobo finally destroyed my 8800gts512 benchmarks !

[miamimuscleboy]

not convincing enough
Fix your settings in crysis they are very picky I run 30+ fps alll VH settings except post proc at High 2,2900s on asus maximus beats my 8800 GTS 512 GLH Gainward by at least 20 to 30 %

[thegave]

I already have an Accelero X2 waiting in the wings, just wanted to see how far I could get out of the box.

After posting I got my mem up to 756MHz so I tried upping core and it did 661/756 stable for half an hour on artifact scanner (max temp about 67, so it dropped oddly enough) and an hour or so of San Andreas, which I've always found to be a very artifact-sensitive game (compared to Source based games).

I received some very discouraging posts over in the X1950Pro Experiences poll/thread about how limited the overclocking headroom is on the X1950 but from the numbers I've seen and personal experience so bollocks to that. I'm fairly confident my card could hit 700 core with the X2 and some extra juice. Temps haven't increased at all from 580 to 661...

Pleeeease help me with the voltmod!

Also, yesterday was the first time I'd ever played a game with AA enabled and my god it was so weird having these beautifully straight lines. I had to stop and stare at the guns for a while in TF2 because they just looked so odd.

[Darknova]

not convincing enough

Then get the 8800. Sorry but if you need to look for a reason to get one over the other then you obviously don't want that one.

You see you've taken the main factor out of the equation (in your other thread) the price.

I got my 3870 for £130, the cheapest 512Mb 8800GT I've found is £180 (there will be cheaper but probably no-name or brands I wouldn't touch.

For me, the price and the smaller power draw was all I needed to convince me the 3870 was the one I wanted, oh and the possibility of Xfire at a later date.

But it's obvious to anyone who reads both these threads you have no interest in either of those reasons, or as you put it, "aren't convincing enough". So get the 8800.

It's really that simple to be honest.

[Wile E]

Hey . check my pics on gallery crossfired 2900s at 18002 3dmark 06 , Took forever to get these F---kers working but an x38 mobo finally destroyed my 8800gts512 benchmarks !
That's also 2 cards vs 1 card. I score over 16k on a single 8800GT, and I haven't even done any voltmods to it.

[imperialreign]

Fix your settings in crysis they are very picky I run 30+ fps alll VH settings except post proc at High 2,2900s on asus maximus beats my 8800 GTS 512 GLH Gainward by at least 20 to 30 %

defi possible - after being quite a bit dismayed at any performance "improvement" with the Crysis 1.1 patch - I swear, I saw 0-1FPS improvement, but a noticeable drop in image quality - I dipped into the guide over at TweakGuides.com, and was able to not only fix some of the IQ irritations, but bump it to an average 30FPS+ with my 2 1950s at 1280x1024.


I just get the feeling, though, that something is defi not right with Crysis and ATI hardare - perhaps it's just me :confused:

[ShadowFold]

I still say go with the HD 3870 like Darknova, any fps over 60 just makes your e-peen bigger. Plus there are so many reasons the HD 3870 is better, yea it doesnt run as fast but as others said it runs alot cooler and has HUGE room for OCing and is cheaper.

[imperialreign]

plus, DX10.1 - if it really matters to ya :D

[ShadowFold]

If it was DX9 I would still buy the HD 3870 over the 8800GT.. the failure rate is retarded high and I dont think you can OC it much.

[tkpenalty]

lol guys, too late to convince me. All your arguments are unfortunately invalid in my position. Anyways, back to the topic, I have to reinstall the AcceleroX2 onto my X1950PRO... apparently the RAM doesnt like getting warm, the AcceleroS1 doesnt do a great job of cooling the RAM at all. Now I see why powercolor had to downclock the AcceleroS1 just to get it to be stable.

Hynix chips run so hot :eek:

[Craigleberry]

lol guys, too late to convince me. All your arguments are unfortunately invalid in my position. Anyways, back to the topic, I have to reinstall the AcceleroX2 onto my X1950PRO... apparently the RAM doesnt like getting warm, the AcceleroS1 doesnt do a great job of cooling the RAM at all. Now I see why powercolor had to downclock the AcceleroS1 just to get it to be stable.

Hynix chips run so hot :eek:

Bugger I hate it when you do something only find out after you do it it dosnt work.... :banghead: That is why I come on this forum to try and avoid making them mistakes unless of course you are the first to make that particular mistake.:wtf:

[tkpenalty]

Bugger I hate it when you do something only find out after you do it it dosnt work.... :banghead: That is why I come on this forum to try and avoid making them mistakes unless of course you are the first to make that particular mistake.:wtf:

Nah its not a mistake, i just have to ramp that 120mm fan (look at my case gallery, check the "Tkpenalty's [Q1 2008]) to max for the RAM to be cooled properly. I could always just tie the fan onto the acceleroS1 but that wont be necessary soon when I get the 8800GT.

[imperialreign]

hynix chips might run hot - but they're reliable. I guess you gotta give a little to take a little, huh?

So, you're not going to use the Accelero on the 8800? Wouldn't it fit, though?

[tkpenalty]

Yes I will use the AcceleroS1 on the 8800, of course! I'll make sure that I get my hands on the turbo modules before I do anything.

[tkpenalty]

Dont samsung memory chips tend to run cooler than the rest like hynix or quimonda?

[eidairaman1]

so i guess your done with ATI for now then huh? Ya i found out its not worth jumping on every board that comes out, your better off skipping a Generation or 2, for example, People going from a 8800 Ultra to a 9800 GX2 are not going to get the greatest experience as a person going from a 7950GT to a 9800GX2

[tkpenalty]

so i guess your done with ATI for now then huh? Ya i found out its not worth jumping on every board that comes out, your better off skipping a Generation or 2, for example, People going from a 8800 Ultra to a 9800 GX2 are not going to get the greatest experience as a person going from a 7950GT to a 9800GX2

lol. Period. Stop talking about me and the 8800. Pretend I still use my X1950PRO :rolleyes:

[thegave]

I saw a huuge difference jumping from my MR9700 to the X1950Pro.

=) Reading what tk wrote makes me really happy I chose the X2 over the S1.

[tkpenalty]

I saw a huuge difference jumping from my MR9700 to the X1950Pro.

=) Reading what tk wrote makes me really happy I chose the X2 over the S1.

Actually S1 > X2 Bigtime in terms of core cooling. If your GPU manufacturer uses hot running memory chips then its a different story...

[thegave]

oh whaaat? =\

but looking at the ac website the temps say the X2 cool 2'C lower than the S2.

I don't actually know how hot my memory chips run. Pretty hot I think...

How is the S2 better? bigger sink?

[tkpenalty]

Yes its bigger, in my case the AcceleroS1 performs like a beast compared to the X2.

[thegave]

=(

Why did you just say on the previous post that the S1 wasn't doing so well? Your ram started heating up?

[tkpenalty]

=(

Why did you just say on the previous post that the S1 wasn't doing so well? Your ram started heating up?

Yes the RAM isnt being cooled well, but the Core is cooled well.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

does this (http://www.xoxide.com/thermaltake-tmg-at2-cooler.html) fit the hd3850?

[ShadowFold]

_FBi;614522']does this (http://www.xoxide.com/thermaltake-tmg-at2-cooler.html) fit the hd3850?

Probly, but why dont you get the HD 3850 IceQ?

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

i dunno im jsut hung up .. plus my 7900GS wont get sold ...

[ShadowFold]

_FBi;614545']i dunno im jsut hung up .. plus my 7900GS wont get sold ...

Yea my 7600GS doesnt seem to want to sell either :shadedshu

I highly reccomend the IceQ from HIS tho.

[Widjaja]

What?
No one in Jamacia wants a 7900GS?

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Nope, the only seem to want 6200's and 8600GT's and 7300's and x1650's

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

Yea my 7600GS doesnt seem to want to sell either :shadedshu

I highly reccomend the IceQ from HIS tho.

after reading this (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Thermaltake/TMG_AT2/4.html) i realise its not much better than stock ...

[tkpenalty]

_FBi;614552']Nope, the only seem to want 6200's and 8600GT's and 7300's and x1650's

Um... that TMG AT2 VGA cooler, i doubt fits the HD3850

[Darknova]

Ok....I really don't like the S1 anymore....I keep getting BSOD's after extended periods of gaming even at stock settings. And yes, I have good airflow over it, but the bastard just doesn't seem to want to let go of heat.

Think I'm going to get a Zalman VF900....if only the Accelero X2 would fit the 3870...

[tkpenalty]

Ok....I really don't like the S1 anymore....I keep getting BSOD's after extended periods of gaming even at stock settings. And yes, I have good airflow over it, but the bastard just doesn't seem to want to let go of heat.

Think I'm going to get a Zalman VF900....if only the Accelero X2 would fit the 3870...

VF900CU is worse. Um, take a photo of your setup. You NEED a 120mm fan or the turbo modules.

[Wile E]

Ok....I really don't like the S1 anymore....I keep getting BSOD's after extended periods of gaming even at stock settings. And yes, I have good airflow over it, but the bastard just doesn't seem to want to let go of heat.

Think I'm going to get a Zalman VF900....if only the Accelero X2 would fit the 3870...

Do you have a fan bolted directly to the Accelero? If not, I suggest doing so asap. You'll be amazed at the temp differences. Any 80, 92, or 120mm fans you have laying around would probably work like a charm.

[Darknova]

Do you have a fan bolted directly to the Accelero? If not, I suggest doing so asap. You'll be amazed at the temp differences. Any 80, 92, or 120mm fans you have laying around would probably work like a charm.

Strapped an old 92mm Arctic Cooling fan too it last night...still not impressed by the performance...the card is literally holding the heat in.

Going to try putting my old Accelero X2 on it tonight see if that makes a difference, or if I do in fact have a faulty card.

[tkpenalty]

Strapped an old 92mm Arctic Cooling fan too it last night...still not impressed by the performance...the card is literally holding the heat in.

Going to try putting my old Accelero X2 on it tonight see if that makes a difference, or if I do in fact have a faulty card.

As I already asked, photo of your setup please? You might have some dead heatpipes. Or try remounting it.

EDIT: I took a look, um... try the AcceleroX2 and remount the S1.

[Darknova]

EDIT: I took a look, um... try the AcceleroX2 and remount the S1.

That's what I'll try in a bit. Going to try the X2, if that works I'll just leave it alone for now.

[tkpenalty]

That's what I'll try in a bit. Going to try the X2, if that works I'll just leave it alone for now.

What temps did you get using ATi Tool? Idle and the scan for artifacts and record temps

[thegave]

Just got my X2 on... I'm having trouble deciding whether to use the stock vrm sink or cut up AC's cooling plate to stick on... Does anyone know if the two big Pulse chips need to be cooled?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/the_gave/CopyofIMG_4438.jpg

The AC plate only covers the larger, bottom one, not the top one.

Well I took the plunge and did the voltmod too.

Temps currently look set at 50'C on Artifact Scanner at stock with the X2 at 100%.

[DaMulta]

I'm thinking about setting up a NON-OCed machine. Just to have around that I know would never be messed up....


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Add a HD2900(if it will fit) to go in there, along with a 9500 or 6400. What do you guys think?

[tkpenalty]

Just got my X2 on... I'm having trouble deciding whether to use the stock vrm sink or cut up AC's cooling plate to stick on... Does anyone know if the two big Pulse chips need to be cooled?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/the_gave/CopyofIMG_4438.jpg

The AC plate only covers the larger, bottom one, not the top one.

Well I took the plunge and did the voltmod too.

Temps currently look set at 50'C on Artifact Scanner at stock with the X2 at 100%.

Err.... you dont stick ANYTHING on. The fact is that your VRMs are already covered.

[thegave]

It's a great idea. That's what I have my laptop for.

Except it goes funny on me occasionally too.

And then that's even more frustrating because you're like "What have I done to you?"

[Wile E]

I'm thinking about setting up a NON-OCed machine. Just to have around that I know would never be messed up....


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Add a HD2900(if it will fit) to go in there, along with a 9500 or 6400. What do you guys think?Is this just leftover parts? If so, I say the 6400. For video, sell the 2900, and get a 3850/70 or 8800GT instead.

[thegave]

I know but will that be better than the special heatplate Arctic-Cooling makes to work together with the X2 since it covers the big Pulse chip as well?

[tkpenalty]

I know but will that be better than the special heatplate Arctic-Cooling makes to work together with the X2 since it covers the big Pulse chip as well?

Err no that VRM plate was never designed to fit on the pulse chip.

[Wile E]

Err no that VRM plate was never designed to fit on the pulse chip.And besides, the factory sinks have more surface area to dissipate the heat.

[thegave]

Err no that VRM plate was never designed to fit on the pulse chip.

er.. Why does it fit it perfectly then? =\

[Wile E]

er.. Why does it fit it perfectly then? =\

Coincidence. That heat spreader was made because on some of the cards, you had to remove the stock fet cooling. On your card, you do not. So leave the factory heatsink there. It will do a better job than the X2's spreader.

[eidairaman1]

lol. Period. Stop talking about me and the 8800. Pretend I still use my X1950PRO :rolleyes:

well if you dont want people to know you have switched to the dark side, why is it in your specs then, lmao

[tkpenalty]

well if you dont want people to know you have switched to the dark side, why is it in your specs then, lmao

Shhhhhhh :laugh:

[thegave]

So those Pulse chips don't need to be cooled then?

What about the large (Rialto bridge?) chip covered with funny pink stuff on the back?

[tkpenalty]

So those Pulse chips don't need to be cooled then?

What about the large (Rialto bridge?) chip covered with funny pink stuff on the back?

i'd buy a set zalman ram heatsinks and stick one of them on. Stick it onto the shiny part of it btw. Make sure its clean, dont touch it. (Rialto).

The pulse chips dont need to be cooled.

[Darknova]

I swear I'm getting a run of bad PC parts...that fan was well dodgy. One of the blades was f***ed and kept catching...didn't notice until it I went to put the X2 on.

Found one of my old 80mm blue LED fans, bolted that to it and now it works like a dream.

Bastard even idles cooler than my CPU!!

[eidairaman1]

Shhhhhhh :laugh:

Man you are a character TK. LMAO:laugh::toast::respect:

In more news i expect the new Sapphire R1950 Pro AGP 512 from Althon Micro (liaison for Sapphire) UPS ground on 20080124.

No news on the HIS 1950 Pro AGP yet, they said to expect in 2 to 4 weeks

[tkpenalty]

Man you are a character TK. LMAO:laugh::toast::respect:

In more news i expect the new Sapphire R1950 Pro AGP 512 from Althon Micro (liaison for Sapphire) UPS ground on 20080124.

No news on the HIS 1950 Pro AGP yet, they said to expect in 2 to 4 weeks

I'd concentrate on upgrading the rest of your computer. Why buy AGP?

[Craigleberry]

Can anyone see anything wrong with this pic?
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/Craigleberry/goes.jpg

[ShadowFold]

Nope

[Darknova]

Can anyone see anything wrong with this pic?
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/Craigleberry/goes.jpg

22" monitor - check
1950Pro - check
Catalyst 7.12 - check

Nope. No issues...

[eidairaman1]

I'd concentrate on upgrading the rest of your computer. Why buy AGP?

This wasnt a buy it is a RMA

Oh trust me the new machine will be more current, thinking in the range of 6000 or 6550. 790FX or P35 Mobos (X38 dont have the stuff i like same with X48) 3850 and PC 12000 DDR2

[Craigleberry]

22" monitor - check
1950Pro - check
Catalyst 7.12 - check

Nope. No issues...

I didnt think I had any problems but this stupid gigabyte driver updater told me that my display drivers were out of date. lol.
I dunno about these online scans:laugh:
http://driveragent.com/gigabytepromo.php
:wtf::shadedshu
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/Craigleberry/dumbgigabyte.jpg
:shadedshu

[Darknova]

That's because 8.1 cat drivers were released a few days ago :)

[Craigleberry]

Thanks for letting me know Darknova about the 8.1 cat drivers otherwise I would still be waiting for the camel to get to me with the message. lol.
I installed them and here are my 3dmark 06 scores

Sorry bad link try this one
http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resultanalyzer.jsp?projectType=14&XLID=0&UID=13570035

[tkpenalty]

Why doesnt your score break 5k? :eek:

[Craigleberry]

i DUNNO probly need to tweak it a little
Card was running underclocked again because installing new drivers so I put it at stock specs. Still having trouble breaking that 5k.

[Widjaja]

Strange.
You shouldn't have to OC your X1950pro over stock to get over 5K.

I remember when you set the card back to stock clocks it was getting over 5200.
And now it's not breaking it at stock?

TBH I've noticed my marks getting a little lower with every new driver release.
From 7.6-7.9cat my X1950pro would get over 5K, by 7.10 it dropped below so I'm guessing the latest driver may get me even lower marks.

Are AMD/ATi forgetting about thier previous cards and make the drivers perform better for thier newer cards again?

I'd rather buy nVidia if they're going to be like that.

[eidairaman1]

Strange.
You shouldn't have to OC your X1950pro over stock to get over 5K.

I remember when you set the card back to stock clocks it was getting over 5200.
And now it's not breaking it at stock?

TBH I've noticed my marks getting a little lower with every new driver release.
From 7.6-7.9cat my X1950pro would get over 5K, by 7.10 it dropped below so I'm guessing the latest driver may get me even lower marks.

Are AMD/ATi forgetting about thier previous cards and make the drivers perform better for thier newer cards again?

I'd rather buy nVidia if they're going to be like that.

hate to break it to ya but nvidia is worse about dropping support for previous boards look at 7600 and 7300 line they are being dropped driver support wise

[Craigleberry]

My latest efforts http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resultanalyzer.jsp?projectType=14&XLID=0&UID=13578004

[ShadowFold]

My latest efforts http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resultanalyzer.jsp?projectType=14&XLID=0&UID=13578004

Grats :D