Tkpenalty's X1950~HD4k Clubhouse

[Wile E]

You might want to at least look into a Xigma HDT or TRUE 120 to hold you over until the water setup.

[imperialreign]

You might want to at least look into a Xigma HDT or TRUE 120 to hold you over until the water setup.

I was slightly entertaining such - considering how I was setup this last weekend, this Z9700 just isn't efficient enough to remove enough heat in large quantities.

The setup was good, though, just a poor cooler. I had my case positioned directly over a floor vent that was pumping out a steady stream of A/C; measured with a thermometer at about 50F right out of the vent. The CPU cores were idling at about 45C at 4GHz, and were stable with small applications and whatnot. It wasn't until putting some stress on the proc with a bench did the temps start to go thermonuclear, and it took a few minutes to get there as well. Running wPrime1024, for example, all 4 threads would hit about 55% before one of the cores would overheat and shut down.


But, TBH, I don't expect to have access to using that method of cooling for a couple of months. A larger air cooler would just be a bite in the HOH savings, IMO. But, we'll see how things go between now and then; either way, I know for sure this CPU can run 4GHz. My next goal is 4.3G :D

[Wile E]

I was slightly entertaining such - considering how I was setup this last weekend, this Z9700 just isn't efficient enough to remove enough heat in large quantities.

The setup was good, though, just a poor cooler. I had my case positioned directly over a floor vent that was pumping out a steady stream of A/C; measured with a thermometer at about 50F right out of the vent. The CPU cores were idling at about 45C at 4GHz, and were stable with small applications and whatnot. It wasn't until putting some stress on the proc with a bench did the temps start to go thermonuclear, and it took a few minutes to get there as well. Running wPrime1024, for example, all 4 threads would hit about 55% before one of the cores would overheat and shut down.


But, TBH, I don't expect to have access to using that method of cooling for a couple of months. A larger air cooler would just be a bite in the HOH savings, IMO. But, we'll see how things go between now and then; either way, I know for sure this CPU can run 4GHz. My next goal is 4.3G :DYeah, but the Xig S1283 is less than $40, and even has a $10MIR at the Egg right now. Cheap and effective. Should at least get you benchable at 4 until you can get h2o together. Plus you could probably recoup some of that money by selling the Zalman.

[tkpenalty]

well, I hit 4GHz on this quad last weekend (4050MHz); and everything seemed electronically stable - I didn't end up with any BSoD or OC related crashes . . .

but, unfortunantely, I just couldn't keep the cores cool enough for extended benching. I was running into thermal crashes :ohwell: At one point, running wPrime1024, Core 2 reached 103C before shutting down and the inevitable black screen of failure. So, I wasn't able to run long benchmarks.

But, I do have the CPU-Z screenie and a bench result from running SuperPi1M to show 4G was running . . . I know this system will run it now, and am 70% certain my config will prove to be stable once I can keep temps under control.

now to keep my fingers crossed that stoopid stuff won't crop up and suck my frivolous savings dry over the next couple of months that I can get a liquid setup together . . .

Your 9700's heatpipe fluids probably are completely vaporised; the 9700 wont cool that well anymore. The 9700 is an outdated cooler imho, old generation. I'd go for the Xigmatek, but the TRUE is good if you can be bothered with lapping it.


Realistically best if you just run at modest clockspeeds and wait it over. Buying new hardware to allow you to keep your e penis as solid as a rock is very typical-TPU-user-ish.

[mitsirfishi]

I was slightly entertaining such - considering how I was setup this last weekend, this Z9700 just isn't efficient enough to remove enough heat in large quantities.

The setup was good, though, just a poor cooler. I had my case positioned directly over a floor vent that was pumping out a steady stream of A/C; measured with a thermometer at about 50F right out of the vent. The CPU cores were idling at about 45C at 4GHz, and were stable with small applications and whatnot. It wasn't until putting some stress on the proc with a bench did the temps start to go thermonuclear, and it took a few minutes to get there as well. Running wPrime1024, for example, all 4 threads would hit about 55% before one of the cores would overheat and shut down.


But, TBH, I don't expect to have access to using that method of cooling for a couple of months. A larger air cooler would just be a bite in the HOH savings, IMO. But, we'll see how things go between now and then; either way, I know for sure this CPU can run 4GHz. My next goal is 4.3G :D

my xiggy atm keeps my q6600 well cooled even at 3.6 its voltage hungry its well worth considering until you can get some w/c kit, have you lapped your q6600 yet i know that scraped a fair few degree's off mine i can get into windows at 4ghz its abit hairy lol :roll:
imperialreign whats your VID of your q6600 ? ;)

[tigger]

Heres my results overclocking my 4850 using cat 8.7 and riva tuner 2.10.

This is 3dmark06 scores,stock setting 280x1024

core mem score
650 1000 13036
660 1050 13226-
http://img.techpowerup.org/080906/660core.jpg
670 1070 13387-
http://img.techpowerup.org/080906/670_1070.jpg
680 1090 13550-
http://img.techpowerup.org/080906/680_1090.jpg
690 1100 13653-
http://img.techpowerup.org/080906/690_1100.jpg
700 1100 13732-
http://img.techpowerup.org/080906/700_1100.jpg
710 1100 13804-
http://img.techpowerup.org/080906/710_1100.jpg
730 1100 13972-
http://img.techpowerup.org/080906/730_1100.jpg
740 1125 14141-
http://img.techpowerup.org/080906/740_1125.jpg
750 1150 14285-
http://img.techpowerup.org/080906/750_1150.jpg

I have an arctic accelero S1 R2 with a 120mm thermaltake fan on it.Temp was 41c max:rockout:

My cpu was at 3.6ghz for all the runs.

My bios is modded for 1.158v in high 3d mode.The highest it was benchable was 750/1150,i ran it at 770/1150 but 3dmark failed.

[imperialreign]

Your 9700's heatpipe fluids probably are completely vaporised; the 9700 wont cool that well anymore. The 9700 is an outdated cooler imho, old generation. I'd go for the Xigmatek, but the TRUE is good if you can be bothered with lapping it.


Realistically best if you just run at modest clockspeeds and wait it over. Buying new hardware to allow you to keep your e penis as solid as a rock is very typical-TPU-user-ish.

Well, I agree the 9700 is a bit outdated, but it's still quite an effective cooler considering its size when compared to much larger coolers . . . I can't say for sure on the heatpipe fluids, though, as the cooler still performs just as well with lower clock speeds as it did when it was brand new . . .

. . . it's just that the heat output from the quad, and from the system ambient, is just too much for the cooler to handle at those higher clock speeds.

Sadly, I've been meaning to go to liquid cooling for quite a few months now, but I've just run into one financial headache after another. Sure, I could purchase a larger air cooler, but why dump the $60+ when I can shoebox it for a HOH setup?

That 4GHz run was just a weekend ordeal, where conditions allowed me to push it that hard; I doubt I'd ever run that speed 24-7. Possibly 3.8GHz with liquid cooling, but I'm content with 3.6 on a higher BUS.




my xiggy atm keeps my q6600 well cooled even at 3.6 its voltage hungry its well worth considering until you can get some w/c kit, have you lapped your q6600 yet i know that scraped a fair few degree's off mine i can get into windows at 4ghz its abit hairy lol :roll:
imperialreign whats your VID of your q6600 ? ;)


Yeah, one of the first things I did after I got this quad was to lap it - TBH, though, I didn't see much improvement at all. Perhaps 1C average across all 4 cores. I even lapped down the 9700 to ensure it was flat as well, and reseated the cooler about half a dozen times. Still no more improvement than about 1C.

my config for 4G was stable as best I could tell - the only thing that would crash the system was if I would run a benchmark that would pull 100% load on all 4 cores, after about 5 min, core temps were high enough that one core would just shut down altogether, then blackscreen. Thermally unstable :ohwell:



As to the Q6600 VID . . . CoreTemp reports 1.2750v. Not sure if that's affected at all by my current config.

[mitsirfishi]

1.275 isnt bad for vid better than the most commen ones 1.325v like mine but i get my water cooling all up and running tommorow so should be awesome :D

[eidairaman1]

Well yall, i decided to try to find a Max GPU Clock on my Sapphire x1950 Pro (I know its old school) but anyways ATI Tray Tools Beta 1.5.8.1275 reached 641MHz from 580 and the system BSOD with a ATIDVAG in it (basically stating the card became unstable) I did notice the Temps were in the 60s, but i also noticed the fan wasnt increasing in speed. (audible noise remained the same) I was think there is possibly a Bios Limiter for the fan speed, i also noticed you cant increase the speed by 1 MHz on this card either as i tried to increase by 1 and the clock wouldnt apply. When i was finding the max clock it would jump in massive chunks. I may eventually put a cooler on the converter chip on the back of the card with a small fan, edit the bios for voltage increases since i dont have a solder kit and dead boards around to perfect soldering to pads etc.

Is there any GPU/Ram coolers recommended for this card, (i know some of yall will say its a waste of money/time to try to increase speeds on this card but i want to experiment with it since its been running stock for over a year or 2)

[mitsirfishi]

arctic accelero s1 + turbo modules/ 2x92mm fans with cable ties :)

[p_o_s_pc]

does ATItool still allow voltage adjustments on the x1950? If so maybe try that before you flash the card to see if it helps.+1 to the accelero s1 + turbo modules

[mrhuggles]

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=951930#post951930

vivo fixed in vista, possibly xp [2900xt and maybe others similar? maybe stuff with the T200 chips or whatever if ppl can test that would help]

[eidairaman1]

course that program hasnt been updated in so long, yet Tray tools has been, course im not running tray tools currently tho until i figure out a few things, wasnt there a bios editor tool out there?

[eidairaman1]

well i managed to capture a bios image of my 1950 pro as a log file using Rabit 2.2.1 and for some reason the app only detects 256MB of ram on it when i know it has 512, not sure if rabit cant detect it correctly or what.

is there a guide on how to use the tool properly because i want to overclock this sucker high.

btw this is a agp version

[eidairaman1]

i wonder if Radeon Bios Editor Supports this card

[p_o_s_pc]

It should. Sorry i can't help you much i haven't used an ATI card in awhile.

[eidairaman1]

the creator state he wouldnt support X1K cards, so that just means he never owned 1.

[tkpenalty]

the creator state he wouldnt support X1K cards, so that just means he never owned 1.

No, I do own one X1k card, the X1950PRO. However I don't feel like theres a need to support the even older cards, but I don't mind if you have any issues and need help...

Not enough time to update the purchase guide X_X.... maybe in the upcoming holidays I shall do it.

[eidairaman1]

i was talking about Radeon Bios Editor, it only supports HD2 and higher cards