Tkpenalty's X1950~HD4k Clubhouse

[tkpenalty]

:D wheres my HIS :laugh:

Um guys harvest me X1950PRO, X1950XT and X1950XTX full GPU view pics. Because I cbf right now.

[SPHERE]

sup dudes im lookin for anyone with a x1950xt 256mb (lookin to get ahold of the bios) if anyone has one drop me a personal message thanks dudes :)

[boecke]

I've got an X1950 XT 256mb (PowerColor) but I don't know whether i'd be able to get the BIOS for you.

[Zubasa]

Very nice :D

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/GunbladePlatinum/PROSAPPHIREcopy.jpg

Here ya go sapphire X1950PRO freaks. The X1950XTX sig pic is universal unless your one has a different cooler (like HIS).

How do I downsize it so its under 19.5kbs?

Beautiful~:D
I don't know how to down size it, but I think the 19.5 kb limit is kinda ridiculous...

[tkpenalty]

Ow!!!.. My Fucking Generic Case Cut Me!

[xman2007]

Ow!!!.. My Fucking Generic Case Cut Me!

tightwad buy a decent case :roll:





oh wait i have a cheap generic case too :twitch:

[tkpenalty]

tightwad buy a decent case :roll:





oh wait i have a cheap generic case too :twitch:

I just found out what cut me... It wasn't the case but a god damn razor I had on the floor, trying to trim an intake undervent.

(OW MY FUCKING FINGER)

[Zubasa]

I guess I manage to make it fit by resizing it to 80%.
And I increased the compression.

[Zubasa]

O.O
It actually would fit if i reduce it to 490*98 pixels :p

Edit: The normal one will fit also :D

Edit2: And so does the XTX version :roll:

[HellasVagabond]

No XT version ? :P

[Zubasa]

No XT version ? :P
Go bug tkpenalty for that:p

[tkpenalty]

Go bug tkpenalty for that:p

Doing it... by tommorow you will have one. Zubasa, can you do the down-sizing for me?

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/GunbladePlatinum/PowercolorPROcopy.jpg

That one is for myself and others with AcceleroX2s bolted on.

[Zubasa]

Done.:D

[zekrahminator]

Your leader asked me to fix one of your sigpics (I assume final version?) so that it would fit the size limit, PM me if you want me to shrinkitize a different one to fit the TPU sig.

[DOM]

make sure you get a HIS X1950XT to :D ;)

[boecke]

Here is the R580 BIOS for the Radeon X1950 XT.
Requested by SPHERE.

[meTARGET]

I have a powercolor x1950pro extreme. Is working perfect, but monitor is not going into sleep mode. Does anyone have an answer.

[anticlutch]

I have a powercolor x1950pro extreme. Is working perfect, but monitor is not going into sleep mode. Does anyone have an answer.

Maybe you didn't change your power settings to allow it?

Right click on the desktop > properties> click on the screen saver tab > then press the "power" button. from there you should be able to set when your monitor turns off

[meTARGET]

I have done this, computer will go to sleep mode monitor does not.

[anticlutch]

I have done this computer will go to sleep mode monitor does not.

So you're saying that even after you changed the power settings (the "Turn off monitor", not the "System standby"), it still fails to go into sleep mode? Odd. That was the only solution that I could think of... you probably should just wait for more knowledgeable people to help you out :)

[tkpenalty]

Go to properties (desktop), then go to the screen saver tab, then click power. You will find the option for sleep mode.

[tkpenalty]

Your leader asked me to fix one of your sigpics (I assume final version?) so that it would fit the size limit, PM me if you want me to shrinkitize a different one to fit the TPU sig.

:toast: But...I can't see it for some odd reason.

I'm making many of them for each different model, like standard sigpics for the PRO, XT, XTX, then I will have brand specific signatures, like the sapphire and powercolor I submitted.
You can use the standard editions if you want though.

I need some Demo pics of the X1950XT... impossible to find.

[DOM]

:toast: But...I can't see it for some odd reason.

I'm making many of them for each different model, like standard sigpics for the PRO, XT, XTX, then I will have brand specific signatures, like the sapphire and powercolor I submitted.
You can use the standard editions if you want though.

I need some Demo pics of the X1950XT... impossible to find.

well i can take pic of my HIS X1950XT but well that work ?

[tkpenalty]

Okay, take it out of the case to give the demo pic, take a photo of it so most of it would fit on the sig when I downsize it, lay it on an A3 piece of white, blue or black piece of paper.
First take a picture of it installed thoug and IT MUST USE A STOCK COOLER!!!11oneoneone

(My finger still hurts...)

[DOM]

Okay, take it out of the case to give the demo pic, take a photo of it so most of it would fit on the sig when I downsize it, lay it on an A3 piece of white, blue or black piece of paper.
First take a picture of it installed thoug and IT MUST USE A STOCK COOLER!!!11oneoneone

(My finger still hurts...)

installed :confused: you already have my pic of that well it might have to wait till tomorrow cuz my wife wants to leave the house:o

[tkpenalty]

installed :confused: you already have my pic of that well it might have to wait till tomorrow cuz my wife wants to leave the house:o

Well after being an accidental emo don't you think I lost enough blood to forget? :banghead:

[tkpenalty]

Hmm... so check first page for signature update guys!

777 posts.

Heres the latest batch of them zek, post them on photobucket as everything else doesnt work :/
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/GunbladePlatinum/XTXcopy.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/GunbladePlatinum/PROcopy.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/GunbladePlatinum/XTcopy.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/GunbladePlatinum/PowercolorPROcopy.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/GunbladePlatinum/PROSAPPHIREcopy.jpg

[tkpenalty]

HIS Fans here ya go, this for all the X1950s with HIS coolers

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/GunbladePlatinum/ICEQIIIcopy-1.jpg

UPDATED: Other sigs that work:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/GunbladePlatinum/XTXcopy-1.jpg'
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/GunbladePlatinum/XTcopy-1.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/GunbladePlatinum/PROSAPPHIREcopy-1.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/GunbladePlatinum/PROcopy-1.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/GunbladePlatinum/PowercolorPROcopy-1.jpg

================================================== ================================================== =====
If you are in the club and you want a custom sig, just PM me.

[Zubasa]

The Sapphire version you have is over 19.5kb.
Use the one I am using instead.

[JdPower]

I cant put the first ATI X1950XTX in my sig... won't work. Too large?

[Zubasa]

I cant put the first ATI X1950XTX in my sig... won't work. Too large?
It shouldn't be, it is only 18kB or so.

[tkpenalty]

I cant put the first ATI X1950XTX in my sig... won't work. Too large?

One picture at a time... You can't have more than two.

[SPHERE]

Here is the R580 BIOS for the Radeon X1950 XT.
Requested by SPHERE.
thanks bro :)

[boecke]

Hey, I've just connected a ATI Radeon X1950 CrossFire Edition Card and a ATI Radeon X1950 XT card as the slave. What happens is, I turn on CrossFire Mode, reboot and try and play Call of Duty 2.. It doesn't even load up the main menu, it just freezes and reboots.

Is there a problem with my power supply? it's 550W but it's not really a great PSU considering the brand is called like "BESTA" or something.

I'm thinking of getting a ThermalTake Tough Power 600W if i have to replace it.

[tkpenalty]

Hey, I've just connected a ATI Radeon X1950 CrossFire Edition Card and a ATI Radeon X1950 XT card as the slave. What happens is, I turn on CrossFire Mode, reboot and try and play Call of Duty 2.. It doesn't even load up the main menu, it just freezes and reboots.

Is there a problem with my power supply? it's 550W but it's not really a great PSU considering the brand is called like "BESTA" or something.

I'm thinking of getting a ThermalTake Tough Power 600W if i have to replace it.

BESTA = death... Im surprised if it even manages 300W, let alone 550W

[boecke]

Oh well, So it's a new PSU for me then.
I never knew CrossFire could be so much trouble, heh :)

It's all good though, I have around $150 to spend.

[SPHERE]

BESTA = death... Im surprised if it even manages 300W, let alone 550W www.pcpowerandcooling.com :)

[boecke]

I'm not in America and I don't think those products are stocked over here so :(
I think ThermalTake will do me just fine though, I'd go with OCZ but they're not ATI "CrossFire Certified" :o

[tkpenalty]

If they are SLI certified than they are good as well (Virtually the same... just brand hogging).
I got a Cooler Master iGreen 600W SLi Certified.

With SLI you will get the same problems with that crappy, false watt rating piece of shit.

[Tatty_One]

VERY Nice siggies.....almost makes me wanna get a 1950!.......but not quite :laugh:

[tkpenalty]

VERY Nice siggies.....almost makes me wanna get a 1950!.......but not quite :laugh:

lol :toast:

Guys, anymore requests for sigs?

[tkpenalty]

Um... does anyone know a way to get rid of trapped hot air from the X1950PRO without disturbing the intake fan?

[anticlutch]

By using another fan that sucks air away from the heatsink?

[tkpenalty]

By using another fan that sucks air away from the heatsink?

That will make it worse by supplying the intake fan with hot air T_T... no choice... I have to buy a blower fan. But they are overpriced like shit! I used to have one but my dad used it for his car or something.

[boecke]

Heh, I ended up buying a ZALMAN ZM600-HP.
Has a nice bad ass Blue Internal LED and it's all black, Modular PSU aswell.

Hopefully all runs well.

[tkpenalty]

Heh, I ended up buying a ZALMAN ZM600-HP.
Has a nice bad ass Blue Internal LED and it's all black, Modular PSU aswell.

Hopefully all runs well.

Wow...Zalman is nice. Get two VF900 CUs for your PC and aim for the most silent PC you can get. Get a CNPS7700CU/CNPS9700NT(Gay nvidia) AT

[boecke]

The only thing I don't like about those ZALMAN coolers is that they're so ugly.
I suppose performance outweighs looks though, when I get enough money i'll do some looking around for cooling, maybe new RAM aswell.

[tkpenalty]

.... you hurt me on a personal level....

[Zubasa]

In terms of looks, I think the Arctic Coolers on average looks better.

Zalman is a Korean company that make good stuff, but they don't necessarily look impressive :p

[boecke]

.... you hurt me on a personal level....

Awww, I take it back.

[tkpenalty]

Zalman = Arctic Cooling.

[boecke]

What's a good Water Block for the X1950 GPU?
I'm looking at getting a whole watercooling setup later on, don't know whether it should be custom made or just a whole kit.

Over 300 posts in this thread! :O

[tkpenalty]

What's a good Water Block for the X1950 GPU?
I'm looking at getting a whole watercooling setup later on, don't know whether it should be custom made or just a whole kit.

Over 300 posts in this thread! :O

Hmm.. I like zalman ROFL, Seriously Zalman are good for water cooling but their choices are dear.

http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resultanalyzer.jsp?projectType=12&XLID=0&UID=7720598

3D Marks Score.. just need to OC a bit more.

[JdPower]

What's a good Water Block for the X1950 GPU?
I'm looking at getting a whole watercooling setup later on, don't know whether it should be custom made or just a whole kit.

Over 300 posts in this thread! :O

MCW60 swiftech with ramsinks, or you can fo to the more expensive route with the DangerGen Tyee its up to you. :D Swiftech has a kit for $350.00 which comes with a

Dual 120mm Rad, Resevoir, High flow pump, CPU block (Apogee GT), chipset block, VGA block with ramsinks and tubing, and coolant. Its I think called Swiftech H20 "Ultra" Premium Kit.

[boecke]

Borat: "Nice!"

[mikek75]

The only thing I don't like about those ZALMAN coolers is that they're so ugly.
I suppose performance outweighs looks though, when I get enough money i'll do some looking around for cooling, maybe new RAM aswell.
http://img.techpowerup.org/070123/longshot.jpg

Personally I think the Zalman looks better than the Artic, but then I'm a biker who prefers half faired bikes where you can see the engine:pimp:

[boecke]

I suppose they don't look that bad, but then again there is some pretty cool (pun) products out there. Maybe we could come up with a list of solutions for cooling on the front page of the "X1950 Owner Clubhouse" thread?

[mikek75]

Performance is bloody good as well, 42c is the maximum I've seen during gaming. It hit 46c during the Overdrive auto-clocking utility, and idles at 34c-35c. Its inaudible as well, certainly I can't hear it above the noise of my CPU fan. Well happy with it!

[tkpenalty]

I suppose they don't look that bad, but then again there is some pretty cool (pun) products out there. Maybe we could come up with a list of solutions for cooling on the front page of the "X1950 Owner Clubhouse" thread?

I've already did that :D

VF900 IMHO is so tiny! I thought it would be huuuge. It does provide better cooling for the core honestly. HOWEVER, the memory cooling isn't that good; they should use copper ramsinks or at least a heatpipe system. Well at least the aluminium came from down under; the best quality in the world. However I do have something to criticise about zalman's VF900/VF700 Series, if it IS intended to cool the memory, as well as the core, wouldn't it be logical to have a side blowing (Or angled 45* down) blower fan?

The accelero X2 has a casing to slipstream the cooling and making sure that the heat does not go backwards. Since the fan is actually an angled "reversed" blower, with the motor being slipstreamed, moves a huge amount of air. The "valleys" of the special blades are almost 90* and blow air sideways and not directly downwards.
Due to the three (four?) heat pipes which cool the memory and core. As well as a blow-out vent which cool the voltage chips on the side.
It sucks for AGP though, because some of the holes for mounting (IMHO not needed anyway) aren't there.
The air moves through the fins which dissipate heat from the heatpipes, but I reckon there

One huge problem I forsee for some X1950PRO and X1950GTs is the odd placement of the capacitors. Some Companies have done the right thing and moved all that stuff towards the right of the PCB (Also getting sort of large but better capacitors), but some people who will buy the dirt-cheap X1950GTs will be dissapointed when they find huge capacitors all over the PCB, preventing any possible installation.

[mikek75]

Those ramsinks do a good enough job though, my memory would only clock to 729 before, I'm now at 769 and have got through 3d05 at 784. You should feel the airflow that comes from the fan, which sucks air in and blows down over the chips.

[tkpenalty]

Those ramsinks do a good enough job though, my memory would only clock to 729 before, I'm now at 769 and have got through 3d05 at 784. You should feel the airflow that comes from the fan, which sucks air in and blows down over the chips.

I can do 800 :P (OMG NVIDIA CLUBWH*RES IS COPYING ALL MY IDEAS!!! TIME FOR SOME FORUM PATENTING!!!!111)

[boecke]

I'd have to agree, I say we do a drive-by on those punkass nVidia fans.

[tkpenalty]

Hey does anyone have some cool tribal tatoo designs? (not on skin, just white with the design).
I think its time to spiff your sigs up since they are taking the offensive.

[Tatty_One]

I'd have to agree, I say we do a drive-by on those punkass nVidia fans.

Lol, reckon most of your members aint old enuff to drive :laugh: and anyways, if your wheels are anythin like the 1950pro's (non HIS) stock coolers we will hear you from 10 miles away! :D

On a serious note, anyone got any info on performance for 2 crossfired Sapphire 1950pro's? I got offered a crossfire mobo (ABit, socket 939) and 2 sapphires today in part exchange for my mobo, my 1950XT 256MB (warranty replacement for 1800XT) when it arrives from Connect 3D and £50, not a bad deal mefinks.

[tkpenalty]

Lol, reckon most of your members aint old enuff to drive :laugh: and anyways, if your wheels are anythin like the 1950pro's (non HIS) stock coolers we will hear you from 10 miles away! :D

On a serious note, anyone got any info on performance for 2 crossfired Sapphire 1950pro's? I got offered a crossfire mobo (ABit, socket 939) and 2 sapphires today in part exchange for my mobo, my 1950XT 256MB (warranty replacement for 1800XT) when it arrives from Connect 3D and £50, not a bad deal mefinks.

OMG LUCKY.... :laugh:

Around 5~6k in 3DMarks 06, 11~12k in 05. (Heavily reliant on your CPU). If you are unfortunate like lazzer then... you won't see any performance increases but-HOLY SHIT 3.27GHZ!!!

[mikek75]

Here's a page from Sapphire's forum, post #234 has two 1950pro's http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/forums/showthread.php?t=9535&page=24&pp=10

[Tatty_One]

OMG LUCKY.... :laugh:

Around 5~6k in 3DMarks 06, 11~12k in 05. (Heavily reliant on your CPU). If you are unfortunate like lazzer then... you won't see any performance increases but-HOLY SHIT 3.27GHZ!!!


Gotta be more than that, I get near on 12000 now with the single 7900GTO and almost 11000 with the old 1800XT what you reckon in Crossfire with a San Diego running at 3.2Gig?

[tkpenalty]

Gotta be more than that, I get near on 12000 now with the single 7900GTO and almost 11000 with the old 1800XT what you reckon in Crossfire with a San Diego running at 3.2Gig?

Probably more.

11~15k with crossfire more like. Single would be 9k~11k

[Tatty_One]

Here's a page from Sapphire's forum, post #234 has two 1950pro's http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/forums/showthread.php?t=9535&page=24&pp=10

Thats very useful thanks, reckon I could prob hit 15000+, might just be worth doing, will need to give it some thought, the ABit Xfire mobo is sposed to be an excellent overclocker too, I would not go for it if I thought I would lose performance outta my trusty Sandy......thanks.

Edit: maybe thats being optimistic, with 2 cards would a dual core be better suited or play no part?

[tkpenalty]

Thats very useful thanks, reckon I could prob hit 15000+, might just be worth doing, will need to give it some thought, the ABit Xfire mobo is sposed to be an excellent overclocker too, I would not go for it if I thought I would lose performance outta my trusty Sandy......thanks.

Edit: maybe thats being optimistic, with 2 cards would a dual core be better suited or play no part?

Dual core would give it a tiny performance boost, but at your clocks it doesn't matter anymore :laugh:

I say get 2 AcceleroX2s and OC to 640/800

You can be a member and the signature is not compulsory :toast:

[boecke]

"Come to the darkside Luke"

[tkpenalty]

"Come to the darkside Luke"

How do you say it when the dark side is the good side?

"Come to the BrightSide Luke" ??? wtf?

[Tatty_One]

Dual core would give it a tiny performance boost, but at your clocks it doesn't matter anymore :laugh:

I say get 2 AcceleroX2s and OC to 640/800

You can be a member and the signature is not compulsory :toast:

Got 2 Accelero's already so am on me way!

[Tatty_One]

have already got one foot in the darkside.....1800XT remember. Do single cards really get 11000 without like a C2D running at 3.5Gig....ie mainstream? Most of what I have read in here suggests nearer 10000?

[boecke]

I'm pretty sure they do.

CrossFire Problem #5: I can run CrossFire Mode with Windowed Mode but I can't run it with Fullscreen Mode (just freezes the game up at main menu of Counter-Strike: Source), Any idea?, heh.

[Tatty_One]

I'm pretty sure they do.

CrossFire Problem #5: I can run CrossFire Mode with Windowed Mode but I can't run it with Fullscreen Mode (just freezes the game up at main menu of Counter-Strike: Source), Any idea?, heh.


yeah.....go Nvidia and SLi, they have been doing it right for soooooo much longer :D

[jms45]

yeah.....go Nvidia and SLi, they have been doing it right for soooooo much longer :D

lol cheeky! ;)

[Tatty_One]

I know.........I couldnt resist it, it's all meant in good spirits!:laugh:

[tkpenalty]

I'm pretty sure they do.

CrossFire Problem #5: I can run CrossFire Mode with Windowed Mode but I can't run it with Fullscreen Mode (just freezes the game up at main menu of Counter-Strike: Source), Any idea?, heh.

Nvidia and their false claims.

[Tatty_One]

Going back to my previous point about my warranty replacement and my offer for an Abit S939 crossfired mobo and 2 x Sapphire 256MB 1950pro's, my contact has actually offered me 2 x 1950XT's instead of the Pro's at no extra cost, are these Crossfire 2 (no master card requirement) also?

[tkpenalty]

Going back to my previous point about my warranty replacement and my offer for an Abit S939 crossfired mobo and 2 x Sapphire 256MB 1950pro's, my contact has actually offered me 2 x 1950XT's instead of the Pro's at no extra cost, are these Crossfire 2 (no master card requirement) also?

...If one of them isn't crossfire edition then say "no dude stuff u".


http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/395/11/

Burn 7900GS BURN!!!

[Tatty_One]

...If one of them isn't crossfire edition then say "no dude stuff u".


http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/395/11/

Burn 7900GS BURN!!!

So you do need a master card for the 1950XT unlike the Pro?

[mikek75]

Yeah, the XT needs a master. The Pro connects with an internal bridge similar to SLI. All Pros have the crossfire gubbins built into the core, much neater.

[Schnookums]

http://img.techpowerup.org/070119/x1950%20xtx%20us.jpg

WOAH :eek: What is that!?!? Looks 1333333337!!! I bet it cools like a mofo!

[boecke]

So you do need a master card for the 1950XT unlike the Pro?

The X1950 XT requires a CrossFire Edition card from the same Radeon GPU Family.
In other words you'll need the X1950 CrossFire Edition or the X1900 CrossFire Edition.

Good luck trying to set it up though, what do you think I'm doing now. ;)

[Tatty_One]

The X1950 XT requires a CrossFire Edition card from the same Radeon GPU Family.
In other words you'll need the X1950 CrossFire Edition or the X1900 CrossFire Edition.

Good luck trying to set it up though, what do you think I'm doing now. ;)

Hmmmmmm.....dunno, popping down the shop to buy a Nvidia SLi rig because you want REAL dual card performance perhaps???????:p

[tkpenalty]

Hmmmmmm.....dunno, popping down the shop to buy a Nvidia SLi rig because you want REAL dual card performance perhaps???????:p

2x X1950PROs will give you great performance. Did you ask though?

[Tatty_One]

Well on advice here I am not going to go for the 2 x 1950XT's that requires a master so if it's the ATi Option I think I will go for the 2 x 1950Pro's, I can actually get 2 of the Gecube 1950pro 512MB FZ Supercooled silent turbo that stocks at 680 core and 1620 memory in the warrnty replacement deal, a link to the card is here, grateful for any thoughts, they will give me these two instead of the 1950XT's, (well under negotiation!)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-138-SP


So the way it stacks up is this:

1. Warranty replaced 1800XT.....get one of those badboys above.
2. Have been offered £170 for my 7900GTO, the odd rare ones left are only about £10 more but overclock results with them vary a lot....I have a gem here so my friend wants it!.... thats the second Pro above bought.
3. Been offered £50 for my Epox S939 NF4 Ultra mobo as long as I throw in a brand new unused good quality spare cooler I have.
4. That will pay for the ABit crossfire motherboard, I think its called the MVR-8 something, excellent write ups.

Anyways, until I get agreement from the retailer replacing my 1800XT the above unfortunatly is speculation.

My other alternative is to just get cash, sell my mobo and buy an SLi Mobo and try to either get my hands on another GTO or GTX and flash my GTO to run them in SLi which is what I might have to do dependant on shop, last option is of course to keep what I have at the moment and use the cash (plus what I get for my Sandy 4000+)to buy an Opty 185 x2 that should go to at least 3.1Gig......hmmmmmmm decisions, decisions.

[tkpenalty]

Well on advice here I am not going to go for the 2 x 1950XT's that requires a master so if it's the ATi Option I think I will go for the 2 x 1950Pro's, I can actually get 2 of the Gecube 1950pro 512MB FZ Supercooled silent turbo that stocks at 680 core and 1620 memory in the warrnty replacement deal, a link to the card is here, grateful for any thoughts, they will give me these two instead of the 1950XT's, (well under negotiation!)

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-138-SP


So the way it stacks up is this:

1. Warranty replaced 1800XT.....get one of those badboys above.
2. Have been offered £170 for my 7900GTO, the odd rare ones left are only about £10 more but overclock results with them vary a lot....I have a gem here so my friend wants it!.... thats the second Pro above bought.
3. Been offered £50 for my Epox S939 NF4 Ultra mobo as long as I throw in a brand new unused good quality spare cooler I have.
4. That will pay for the ABit crossfire motherboard, I think its called the MVR-8 something, excellent write ups.

Anyways, until I get agreement from the retailer replacing my 1800XT the above unfortunatly is speculation.

My other alternative is to just get cash, sell my mobo and buy an SLi Mobo and try to either get my hands on another GTO or GTX and flash my GTO to run them in SLi which is what I might have to do dependant on shop, last option is of course to keep what I have at the moment and use the cash (plus what I get for my Sandy 4000+)to buy an Opty 185 x2 that should go to at least 3.1Gig......hmmmmmmm decisions, decisions.

:eek: FZ SUPERCOOLED TEC COOLING FTW!!!

It can go higher than max ATi Overdrive speeds (but its capped) and still remain cool, that is the choice... and 512MB!! You are going to get great scores of like 16k.

But why does the link show the Sapphire Ultimate?

[Tatty_One]

Sorry, wrong link, Overclockers is not where I am getting the warranty replacement, its just the only place I could find the card, the correct link is here:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-003-GC

The sapphire is a baby in comparison th this badboy! here's a more close up pic of the monster:

[tkpenalty]

Sorry, wrong link, Overclockers is not where I am getting the warranty replacement, its just the only place I could find the card, the correct link is here:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-003-GC

The sapphire is a baby in comparison th this badboy!

... ... ...

WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR DAMMIT!!! GET IT :laugh:

[Tatty_One]

... ... ...

WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR DAMMIT!!! GET IT :laugh:

Lol, did an edit above with pic, cant get it until they will agree to one of them being a replacement for the 1800XT, I have even offered to pay the difference but they are dragging their feet, apparantly these cards are pretty rare and hard to come by so I am guessing becasue of that they wanna put their prices up. If they wont deal and prices do go up, even with the money for the 1800XT I am not gonna fork out the xtra to get the whole package, they said they would let me know by Friday.

[tkpenalty]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/GunbladePlatinum/wsdx2.jpg

Zubasa... update your signature.

[Zubasa]

Done.

[tkpenalty]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/GunbladePlatinum/BOSdwdw490x98.jpg

Someone downsize this... this will be my new sig :pimp: its already 490x98 pixels

[jms45]

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7748/bosdwdw490x983jh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

should be 13k now ;)

[tkpenalty]

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7748/bosdwdw490x983jh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

should be 13k now ;)

thx :toast:

[jms45]

thx :toast:

NP ;)

[tkpenalty]

NP ;)

In return, tell your club member to use the tribal designs UNDER the name tags, because its nearly impossible to see the writing.

[jms45]

In return, tell your club member to use the tribal designs UNDER the name tags, because its nearly impossible to see the writing.

yeah i hear ya there, even after sharpening and brightening it up it's still a little hard to make out, must have been the way it was layered.

[tkpenalty]

What thermal paste doest the AcceleroX2 come with preconfigured?

[Tatty_One]

Mine came with a little tube of crap, I put some AS5 on.....dont trust what I dont know, it may have been alright really but prefer to be safe.

[HellasVagabond]

Guys have the X1950XT owners or any X1950 owners increased the Voltage on the card along with the OC ?

[DOM]

Guys have the X1950XT owners or any X1950 owners increased the Voltage on the card along with the OC ?

yes ive tryed it like this but cant oc the ram very much
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5491&d=1168047408

[Tatty_One]

yes ive tryed it like this but cant oc the ram very much
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5491&d=1168047408

A hint if I may, try dropping the MVDDQ to say 2.175, that often allows for a little more overclock on the memory if you are rasing the MVDDC, at worst it will give you a drop in temps....it always worked on my 1800XT and whatever card the principle remains the same, just dont get too carried away lowering it!

Providing you dont drop below 2.150 you will be fine.

[DOM]

A hint if I may, try dropping the MVDDQ to say 2.175, that often allows for a little more overclock on the memory if you are rasing the MVDDC, at worst it will give you a drop in temps....it always worked on my 1800XT and whatever card the principle remains the same, just dont get too carried away lowering it!

Providing you dont drop below 2.150 you will be fine.

what about the VDDCI ??

[tkpenalty]

Oh hey btw, how tall is the X1950XT's standard cooler? W1zzard said that it was 7cm tall... um is it just me or was it a typo?

[boecke]

It's like 3cm tall.

[Tatty_One]

what about the VDDCI ??

Leave it as it is.

[tkpenalty]

Btw, to get a huuuuge performance gain in popular games like Company of Heroes, get the XG Warcat Drivers.

[Apa]

Got myself a sweet little X1950XT 256MB Powercolor. Didn't think I'd motice any bigger difference by switching from a X1800XT, but boy was I wrong :3 Let's see how many months this little baby will stay in this PC. I bet about 12 months exactly.

OCed only through CCC so far, too.. 662/936

It's cooler then my X1800XT thankfully (with stock cooler >_> X1800XT had a VF900-CU). The bad thing I have noticed tho is that this one can go as far as 90C in absolute full load.

[JdPower]

A hint if I may, try dropping the MVDDQ to say 2.175, that often allows for a little more overclock on the memory if you are rasing the MVDDC, at worst it will give you a drop in temps....it always worked on my 1800XT and whatever card the principle remains the same, just dont get too carried away lowering it!

Providing you dont drop below 2.150 you will be fine.

My MVDDC stock is @ 2.083V (I Have the X1950XTX 512mb)

? Is that safe or...?

[tkpenalty]

^GDDR4 Voltages are lower than GDDR3 :shadedshu, those are normal voltages

[JdPower]

^GDDR4 Voltages are lower than GDDR3 :shadedshu, those are normal voltages

Oh yea dur... hahaha :roll:

[tkpenalty]

I really wish 45nm GPUs existed, since they would put out so little heat.

[Tatty_One]

My MVDDC stock is @ 2.083V (I Have the X1950XTX 512mb)

? Is that safe or...?

You can drop it to 2.00 at worst it will lower your temps, at best it will give you upto 30Mhz more on the memory but if not overclocking the card dont bother.

I got 900Mhz outta my 1800XT memory but I never could get it above 870 until I lowered MVDDQ, it also lowered my idle temps (because I raised GPU volts significantly) by 7-8C :D

You just have to play around in small increments to get the right balance but if you lower too much you will get BSOD but to be extra safe make sure you disable "load alternative startup deamon" in ATI tool so when you reboot it resets and therfore no problems, when you get it right it's sweet and you can then enable startup again in ATI tool otherwise you may have difficulty recovering it on startup if it remains enabled......make sense?

If anyone is raising GPU/memory volts significantly I can recommend an 80MM fan blowing on the back of the PCB/card, I mounted one on my CPU heatsink, just put screws on the corner of the fan bracket/frame and they slide quite tightly into the fins of the CPU cooler, depending on the size of your CPU cooler the fan will be about 8-10CM away from the back of Gfx card, it helps with surface temps nicely and can also lower overall temps by a little.

[Patrick Star]

first,hello,
i got a powercolor x1950xtx since two days.before i owned a x800xt pe agp which is not quiete bad and i miss the atitool.

first question:is it normal that ati overdrive show me a clockspeed of 500 instead of 650 in 2d/idle mode?

does it raise in 3d and how can i supervise that?

thx and regards


my card in my shuttle sn26

[DOM]

first,hello,
i got a powercolor x1950xtx since two days.before i owned a x800xt pe agp which is not quiete bad and i miss the atitool.

first question:is it normal that ati overdrive show me a clockspeed of 500 instead of 650 in 2d/idle mode?

does it raise in 3d and who can i supervise that?

thx and regards

u can use ATITool 0.26 is the latest

and yes it shows its at 2D and it goes to 3D when its needed

[Patrick Star]

i read that i doesnt support the x19xxxxxx cards?ok,i will try.thx:respect:

[DOM]

i read that i doesnt support the x19xxxxxx cards?ok,i will try.thx:respect:

only the Pros I think, but the XT's and XTX's should work its works on my X1950XT

[Patrick Star]

which driver is mostly redcomended?i tried diffrent driver,now i use the omega drivers.is there anyone who had compare the omega driver vs. the warcat driver,so i dont have to do it?:)

my card needs to run best at bf2 and the original drivers work very poor.

ps,first i thought they send me a brick instead of a graficcard.rememder that i used x800 agp before:laugh:

[HellasVagabond]

The XG drivers are better than the standard ATI ones and almost the same with the Omega....Plus XG has x64 support while OMEGA doesnt...

[Tatty_One]

I beleive the Omega drivers are more focused on improving IQ, the Warcat are more cemtered on improving performance (speed).

[tkpenalty]

Yeh.... the warcat drivers gave my 9550 @ 520/280mhz (I flashed it to 360/250 stock, lol, it still runs cool at those stock clocks with AS5) a huuuuge boost in performance. No more stuttery gameplay and everything ran like a dream. Then when I got my X1950PRO the definition of "a dream" changed. I would not touch the omega drivers if you are using a low-end GPU because the IQ does drag down performance. Warcat as tatty said are for speed and perfromance, they re-write the AA method to be much much better than the standard ATI method. Same with the AF IQ, except its sort of less advanced as the Omega drivers.

ATI Tool will not work for GPUs with the crossfire bridge interlink (just to make it sound cool).
Just use CCC now (Meanwhile, he dremels one of his PCI-E 4x slots in preperation to use his X1950PRO as a physics card).

Btw, anyone with a crossfire setup in this club, try using one of the GPUs for physics and one for graphics, then do a 3DMark 06 benchmark.
What load temps do you guys get with your X1950PROs btw?

[mikek75]

42c load in games. BTW, can I join?

[tkpenalty]

Read the rules of the club before joining.

[tkpenalty]

Damn.... time to order a blower fan, when I get it, I'lll turn off the fan on my GPU because it will cause drag; yep, let the 45CFM blower fan do all the work.

[Maju]

Hey Hey !

Just checked the first page of this thread and found my pic posted there. :cool: Thanks tk!
Ego is such a wonderful thing. So sign me in for the club tk so I can use the sapphire sig legit.

I also notice that the price of the sapphire x1950xtx master is starting to drop significantly, and along with the ego comes desire......watch this space!

[xnox202]

Hmm. I have an Powercolor ATI Radeon X1950 PRO 'AGP'. Can I still join then? ~.~

[mullered07]

HIS x1950pro, count me in :toast:

[tkpenalty]

Hey Hey !

Just checked the first page of this thread and found my pic posted there. :cool: Thanks tk!
Ego is such a wonderful thing. So sign me in for the club tk so I can use the sapphire sig legit.

I also notice that the price of the sapphire x1950xtx master is starting to drop significantly, and along with the ego comes desire......watch this space!

Ur reserved so yeh :D

[xnox202]

http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/605/12.jpg

[tkpenalty]

Did you even have an attempt at reading the first page? :wtf:


To join...
PM me, it isn't wise to ask in the thread as it causes confusion

[mullered07]

Did you even have an attempt at reading the first page? :wtf:

my bad, i did read it, but got so caught up reading the rest of the posts just forgot :p

[xnox202]

Holy, how could I miss that. I came to first notice the "Conditions and Rules" instead. Sorry, I'm new as you know, uh around here.

Umm, see get what I mean? *points my post above*

[tkpenalty]

lol... too much info, time to migrate some of it >_>

[tkpenalty]

Check out the Nvidia Owners thread :rockout:... only one clubhouse per sub-forum thanks!
I ask again, what temps are you guys getting on your X1950s? Specifically X1950PROs becausse the benchmarks usually produce random results.

[CBOT]

Hey i´am not in your Club but i say you my Temps .

Idle : 38c
and
58c under ATI-Tool ArtifactScan.
With my HIS RX1950PRO IceQ3 Turbo 640/1500 Stock Voltage.

[mikek75]

Check out the Nvidia Owners thread :rockout:... only one clubhouse per sub-forum thanks!
I ask again, what temps are you guys getting on your X1950s? Specifically X1950PROs becausse the benchmarks usually produce random results.

Idle 35c Load 42c Sapphire X1950Pro@ 621/766 (Zalman VF900Cu + VRM Sinks)

[anticlutch]

Idle : 42c
Load : 57c
Asus x1950 Pro with stock speeds (580 core/ 702mem) and stock cooler with AS5

[tkpenalty]

Hm... Thats about right then, I might need to apply some AS5 on my GPU... the blower fan will arrive in two weeks T_T.

[boecke]

If I could get my CrossFire working i'd take some pictures otherwise, blah!
Screw AMD/ATI's Customer Support, they didn't even bother reading my message.

[tkpenalty]

lol....

[Tatty_One]

If I could get my CrossFire working i'd take some pictures otherwise, blah!
Screw AMD/ATI's Customer Support, they didn't even bother reading my message.

:)

[xXDynamosXx]

Quick question to those using HIS 1950Xt Iceq3 Which power supply do you recommend, My power supply only offers 24A on 12v and my 3D gpu clocks never kick in im running at 500 / 594.. so i definitley need a more potent psu.. any sugestions guys? i hear the Hyper Type-r works good so any comments would be greatly apreciated

[DOM]

Quick question to those using HIS 1950Xt Iceq3 Which power supply do you recommend, My power supply only offers 24A on 12v and my 3D gpu clocks never kick in im running at 500 / 594.. so i definitley need a more potent psu.. any sugestions guys? i hear the Hyper Type-r works good so any comments would be greatly apreciated

are you sure it's not going in to 3d mode?? cuz are you useing ATITool or just CCC or both ?

[xXDynamosXx]

it Runs at the 500 / 594 clocks which people have said is the 2D clocks, the card is suppose to reach 650 / 1800 with overclocking and also if I overclock with Ati tool (CCC wont even let me overclock) to 600 / 900 (the highest it will even let me go before it crashes) it runs but as soon as I run a 3d type application I.E the Spinning 3D cube on ati tool the gfx card freezes and CCC reboots the gfx card and resets the clock to 500 / 594 people have told me that this is due to inadequate Ampeage to the gfx card

Edit: I tried ATI tool but uninstalled and CCC is just running, I also have the HIS iTurbo tool instaleld which doesnt even try to overclocking it (only good for adjusting fan speed)

[DOM]

it Runs at the 500 / 594 clocks which people have said is the 2D clocks, the card is suppose to reach 650 / 1800 with overclocking and also if I overclock with Ati tool (CCC wont even let me overclock) to 600 / 900 (the highest it will even let me go before it crashes) it runs but as soon as I run a 3d type application I.E the Spinning 3D cube on ati tool the gfx card freezes and CCC reboots the gfx card and resets the clock to 500 / 594 people have told me that this is due to inadequate Ampeage to the gfx card

Edit: I tried ATI tool but uninstalled and CCC is just running, I also have the HIS iTurbo tool instaleld which doesnt even try to overclocking it (only good for adjusting fan speed)

well with ATITool you need to have this box checked look at pic , cuz when you open ATITool it would load with 3D speeds and 3D volts let me know if that works

[xXDynamosXx]

When I run AtiTool at the top the Profile says Default 621/900 but the current is 499.50 / 594.00 if i Click load it will set the Clocks to 621/900 however if i then click the "Show 3D view" button everything freezes and I get a VPU error from CCC after my gfx card reboots

See atached images

[DOM]

When I run AtiTool at the top the Profile says Default 621/900 but the current is 499.50 / 594.00 if i Click load it will set the Clocks to 621/900 however if i then click the "Show 3D view" button everything freezes and I get a VPU error from CCC after my gfx card reboots

See atached images

take a pic of you volts after you open atitool with speeds at 621/900

[xXDynamosXx]

is this what your looking for?


also onthe main page my Draw goes from 2.5A to 5.5A.. seems a bit low for a card that requires 34A on 12V rail... but I dont know

[DOM]

is this what your looking for?


also onthe main page my Draw goes from 2.5A to 5.5A.. seems a bit low for a card that requires 34A on 12V rail... but I dont know

the draw goes up from when you start useing 3d things games/atitool fuzzy cube etc.

:eek: yep your volts are to low this is what mines at at 3d

[xXDynamosXx]

Interesting I can set the voltages to that of yours and it doesnt reset when I run 3D at 621/900 but it sytill seems unstable So is this a Powersupply issue than or not

FYI the power supply im using does not have a dedicated 6pin PCI-E rail im using an adapter with a standard 4pin molex rail

[RatusNatus]

Simple question :)

Do you think the Sapphire X1950XTX has the very same cooler of the 1950XT 256MB?

[xXDynamosXx]

Not sure but If I we're you i'd stay away from saphire all together, their Cards runs at a higher temp than that of HIS

[DOM]

Interesting I can set the voltages to that of yours and it doesnt reset when I run 3D at 621/900 but it sytill seems unstable So is this a Powersupply issue than or not

FYI the power supply im using does not have a dedicated 6pin PCI-E rail im using an adapter with a standard 4pin molex rail

why do you think its unstable? what is it doing that makes you think that?

and i cant tell you if the adapter is the prob. never used one before sorry

[DOM]

Simple question :)

Do you think the Sapphire X1950XTX has the very same cooler of the 1950XT 256MB?

:wtf: no XT's have the same as the 1900's did

[xXDynamosXx]

It atifacts for one and resuming fro mthe screensaver is very messed up makes the screen very artifacted for a breif moment.. so im not sure... those voltage levels are those stock or did you modify those on your own?

Also, When the voltage is turned up and im running the fuzzy cube thing at 621/900 its really jittery and not fluent and also the draw is at 27.5A whats your run at?

[RatusNatus]

Thanks for the reply.

I'll take the Accelero anyway.

[DOM]

It atifacts for one and resuming fro mthe screensaver is very messed up makes the screen very artifacted for a breif moment.. so im not sure... those voltage levels are those stock or did you modify those on your own?

Also, When the voltage is turned up and im running the fuzzy cube thing at 621/900 its really jittery and not fluent and also the draw is at 27.5A whats your run at?

the voltage are stock 3D volts, and on draw I get 27.3A and 24.5A it changes back and forward

also when I run the fuzzy dice try not to have you pointer on anything that would bring up text, cuz mine starts to kind of skips when I would put it on atitool on the temps and the text would come out then it would start skiping

and the artifacts does it just happens when atitool open ? try running some beanch marks and see if you get any artifacts like 3DMARK 05,06 for examples

[xXDynamosXx]

I will try 3dmark05 as soon as it download here, however im pretty sure that this is a Inadequate power supply problem here

[sym8olo]

Hi,
I have been reading the Sapphire forum and others and making occasional posts for some time now (since early Jan) I really hope someone out there can suggest something that I haven't read (and tried) on any of the many forums I have combed through looking for an answers. I've piled hours and hours into this card and I'm at the end of my teather. I have been waiting for the DFI street forum to re open, as I think I may have an incompatability, or as least there may be some advice here that I cant get elsewhere re motherboard compatability. So please be patient and read this carefully I know its alot of info but I dont want to have to repeat myself too much. Here's the story so far.

The problem. No POST except twice ever.

When I have had the card running, it works like a dream, and temperatures are well below anything that would cause concern.

I've used-
HIPER Type R 580wPSU - no post no fans, didnt even work with my geforce 6800gt. RMAd, and refunded.

Corsaire HX620W - Runs system with my old card fine, No post beep but all fans 100%, just a black screen.
Cleared Bios -nothing
Tried with no CD, DVD, Sound card, just one stick of ram and graphics - NO Post.
changed ram bank and module around, NO Post
changed leads to PSU around in every combo on every connector- nope

Played with Bios settings- Init Display First - tried every option - nothing
RMAd and refunded


Finally Liberty Enermax 620W and POST and played for 3-4 hours with 1950pro -no artifacts and delighted.
restarted several times no problem BUT powered off, powered on and ,,, no POST

Tried with no CD, DVD, Sound card, just one stick of ram and graphics - NO Post.
changed ram bank and module around, NO Post
changed leads to PSU around in every combo on every connector- nope

Played with Bios settings- Init Display First - tried every option - nothing

re-installed latest mobo bios and chipset drivers- nothing

Checked the heatsink is contacting the memory properly and it is.

RMA'd the card back to Overclockers. Who tested it (probably once) got it to post and run 3dmark and sent it back.

Installed the card as before (uninstalling my Nvidia card, using driver cleaner pro in safe mode as appropriate) nothing.
Powered off then on and CARD POSTS FINE! with all my ram and devices plugged in. I installed the drivers off the CD and had a fantastic 4 hours play loving it! Updated to the 7.1 catalyst and restarted and everything.

Powered off, powered on and - NO POST..
Tried about 50 times. no joy..

Submitted a support ticket to Sapphire asking whether the card requires you to manually set AGP drive strength. see below quote re what that is, but this is clutching at straws and I dont expect that to get an answer.-
"This BIOS feature will only be activated if you set the AGP Drive Strength BIOS feature to Manual. It determines the N transistor drive strength of the AGP bus.
The drive strength is represented by Hex values from 0 to F (0 to 15 in decimal). The higher the drive strength, the greater the compensation for the motherboard's impedance on the AGP bus.
In conjunction with AGP Drive Strength and AGP Drive Strength P Ctrl, this function is used to bypass AGP dynamic compensation in cases where the auto-compensation circuitry cannot provide adequate compensation. Please check with your graphics card manufacturer if your card requires the N transistor drive strength to be manually set."

I am so sick and tired of all this f-ing around but i cant get a refund and I would rather not loose the £140 on top of the phone bills and delivery costs for all the returns I've had to do.

Please help because this is a fantastic card and all I read are people having minor issues but then solving them or getting new and perfectly functional cards and LOVIng it.. I BEG you to help me as this is the last chance before I take a hammer to the card and despair.

[Tatty_One]

Firstly could you go to "user CP" and post your full system specs there , it makes it easier for people not to have to read the post over and over.

You seem convinced it's the 1950Pro yet you have thrown so many other ingredients into the pot so that may well be uncertain, for example, system didnt work with Hyper 580 so you RMA'd it, you have tried the 6800 and no post etc, etc, as you have probably gathered it makes it so much more difficult to pin down when you put so many options in the hardware basket so to speak.

On the surface of it I would say that you could have a motherboard fault, bad bridge connection or something that intermittently is letting power thru to chips/controllers on the board or it could be a faulty mainboard power connector that occasional gives contact. If you have tried the 6800 in there and it's not worked could even be a faulty PCI-E slot.

When you have cleared CMOS on the many attempts have you removed battery also? Silly I know but I assume when you have "played with BIOS" you have Primary graphics set to PCI-E and not PCI?

With your specs up we can check motherboard and the rest so idea's might start coming in.

[xXDynamosXx]

@ Dom

I tried running 3dmark 05 and when i start the benchmarking the systems freezes and reboots :cry:

[DOM]

@ Dom

I tried running 3dmark 05 and when i start the benchmarking the systems freezes and reboots :cry:

well can you try another PSU? cuz you OC on your CPU is 100% stable right ?

[xXDynamosXx]

yea my cpu is 100% stable never crashes the OS.. however i was running 3dmark05 on Vista now that im back on xp x64 im going to try it one more time

[tkpenalty]

Sorry guys who haven't been added... I got shaped and yeh T_T... also I'm too busy atm.

K... Dynamos, Vista will not allow 3DMark05 do some of the benchmarking because Vista thinks the procedures may involve "non premium content".

[xXDynamosXx]

im installing MCE 2005 on a friends PC at the moment and I will be installnig 3dmark05 on my pc afterwards, i'll post the results after:)

[sym8olo]

Hi Tatty, long time no see well. now you know why!! lol the CPU Still runs nicely at 2400 normal volts thanking you kindly! But obviously not when trying to install the new card (iust stock all attempts)!
I've had my system spex in User CP for a while- doesn't it show ? Well I've just changed my signature so it should follow my posts now. In answer to your questions:
Yes I tried every PSU with my old setup and the HIper didnt work with it but the others worked fine.
Yes I took the battery out when clearing the CMOS.
Whats next? or would you indeed now conclude its the motherboard fault?

[Tatty_One]

Hi Tatty, long time no see well. now you know why!! lol the CPU Still runs nicely at 2400 normal volts thanking you kindly! But obviously not when trying to install the new card (iust stock all attempts)!
I've had my system spex in User CP for a while- doesn't it show ? Well I've just changed my signature so it should follow my posts now. In answer to your questions:
Yes I tried every PSU with my old setup and the HIper didnt work with it but the others worked fine.
Yes I took the battery out when clearing the CMOS.
Whats next? or would you indeed now conclude its the motherboard fault?

Ohhh it's you! I am starting to think it may be the motherboard, I went through some similar grief last summer, what you need to do is go thru all the variables so everything needs to go to stock, all timings and volts on "auto". You then need to borrow a graphics card for half an hour and see if the system will boot, if it will, fine then its prob your card if not then go thru the process disconnecting periphials, using one stick of ram and if still no posts then its likely to be mainboard.

[sym8olo]

Ohhh it's you! I am starting to think it may be the motherboard, I went through some similar grief last summer, what you need to do is go thru all the variables so everything needs to go to stock, all timings and volts on "auto". You then need to borrow a graphics card for half an hour and see if the system will boot, if it will, fine then its prob your card if not then go thru the process disconnecting periphials, using one stick of ram and if still no posts then its likely to be mainboard.

Yes its meeeee. I've done that, I have my old card and it does post fine, as i say, theres no problem with the system as is, nor any ram module, I've benched and stressed everything during my overclocking exploits. Now I have everything set to stock and I've gone through the process above and nada. :(

EDIT: Just got off the phone with Overclockers and they say they probably wouldnt have powered off and then on again when testing, so I got them to issue me another RMA. We will see if I send it or not, in the mene time any more suggestions would be appreciated.

[Tatty_One]

Looks like rma time then I am afraid, ask for your money back and I'll let you have a brand new (warranty return) 1950XT or worse case 1800XT for cheaper :D

You gotta watch them ATi cards tho, they can be a bit dodgy!

[sym8olo]

Looks like rma time then I am afraid, ask for your money back and I'll let you have a brand new (warranty return) 1950XT or worse case 1800XT for cheaper :D

You gotta watch them ATi cards tho, they can be a bit dodgy!

AGP?

[Tatty_One]

AGP?

Ahhhhh forgot....sorry no.

[Stikk]

Hey everybody!

sorry to be a pain, im sure this has been covered before, but i just got myself a PowerColor X1950PRO (AGP) and i went to install it last night only to find the box had some ridiculously high power requirements on it!! My PSU is pretty weak, 350W with 15A on the 12V rail and i kinda knew i needed a new one before i could use this card and 450W is not excessive but 30A?!?! Where the HELL am i gonna find a PSU that will give me 30A! The highest i can find (at a reasonable price) is 500W and 25A on the 12V rail.. Will this PSU drive my card or do i really need 30A? If so, where should i look for one cuz i live in Perth, Western Australia (the biggest small town in the world, for all of you who have never been here :p ) and there are a few decent computer shops but i cant find a PSU that powerful! Also, i dont wanna end up spending as much as i spent on the card on a new PSU!

Please help! This is really annoying me!!

Thanks in advance
Ollie

[anticlutch]

I'd suggest buying the highest rated power supply that you're willing to buy. Skimping on power supplies won't get you anywhere nice... I did it and my system is plagued with instability so I bought myself a 550w powersupply which will hopefully arrive tomorrow :D

[Stikk]

Thanks anticlutch for you (very) fast reply! Im kind of concerned about the current rating, thats the only thing, because i have been looking on eBay, and like i said, the highest current rating i could find was 25A which, according to the box, wont run my card.. I dont do a whole lot of stuff with my computer, but i do have 3 HDDs and a DVD burner, so finding one with lots of connectors is pretty important for me too..

Do you have any recommendations for a good PSU that i could order from here?

[anticlutch]

lol np with the fast reply (I don't have much to do today :| )

About the 30A needed... I seriously doubt that you'll need all 30A on that rail, because my system runs on less than that (although it is a bit unstable, it runs fine when I don't use/play graphically intensive programs). I'm sure that 25A *would* be fine, but just in case you might want to get a second opinion.

I live in the U.S. so the only places that I buy from are Newegg and Fry's Electronics (a brick-and-mortar store), so I won't be able to help you out much with the buying aspect. If you do buy it from Ebay, I'd advise you to stick to new items (you never know what could have happened to that power supply), as well as buying name brand power supplies (i.e. Antec (I personally reccommend this company), Thermaltake, SeaSonic, etc.)

Do you have a limit to how much you are willing to spend?

[Namslas90]

lol np with the fast reply (I don't have much to do today :| )

About the 30A needed... I seriously doubt that you'll need all 30A on that rail, because my system runs on less than that (although it is a bit unstable, it runs fine when I don't use/play graphically intensive programs). I'm sure that 25A *would* be fine, but just in case you might want to get a second opinion.

Do you have a limit to how much you are willing to spend?

I'll agree with that 25 amp rail. But keep in mind thats the lower end of power requirements for that card. You may have problems with top end overclocking. Other than that ATI recomends (if you call them, and get the right person) a 12v rail rating of 24 amps minimum.

[Stikk]

Well, im not planning to do any overclocking, i was just gonna plug it in and use it, but its turning out to be an expensive little upgrade, so i might wanna go for the slightly bigger PSU since im spending the money anyway.. Most of the PSUs i can find, even the more expensive, higher wattage ones, seem to be no more than about 18A on the 12V rail.. I dunno why that is, but i really havent managed to find one with a current rating over 25A..

I have found a few with dual 12V rails, but im not really too sure what that means.. Does each rail need to be at least 30A or do they have to add up to 30A? Im kind of restricted to looking on eBay and online sites at the moment since the websites for the shops near me have like no information on them and im at work, so i cant go ask :p

I found a whole bunch of stuff that i wanted to buy off newegg but for some reason they dont ship internationally! Seems odd to me, but yeah, they dont, so im kind of limited to what i can find on eBay, unfortunately...

[anticlutch]

Hm... I'm assuming it has to be 30A for 1 rail but then again, the gauge of the wire would have to be massive in order to supply 30A...

It's really a shame you don't live in the US... I just bought a Rosewill 550w power supply for about $70 (yes, I know some people might object to the brand, but the reviews were very good).

http://cgi.ebay.com/Antec-550-Watt-Power-Supply-Model-NEO-HE-550_W0QQitemZ140081411384QQihZ004QQcategoryZ44949Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Maybe that? The refurbished thing really worries me though (I'm a bit paranoid about refurbs :P )

[Namslas90]

If you are using a PSU w/dual rails and one card; and the card needs more power ,it will pull 20% - 30% power from the unused rail to boost the used rail. If your planning on getting a second card then get a better PSU. Bad news is that most PSU's with the power and quality to run the newer cards are going to cost around $120 to $180 U.S. The good thing is if you buy a higher quality PSU it will last through several upgrades. Enermax, OCZ are good brands; I'm sure there are more.

[anticlutch]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Antec-Power-Supply-TRUE-POWER-TRIO-TP3-650-650W-ATX-2-2_W0QQitemZ160082585756QQihZ006QQcategoryZ80173QQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem
It's a bit pricey but... all the rest only ship to the US and Canada :|

Just for fun but... 24A per rail for only $300 USD!!! haha
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160082588282&ssPageName=MERC_VI_RSCC_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=160082585756&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=active_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&usedrule2=UpSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget

[Stikk]

Well i have quite an old motherboard, you see, so there is no chance of me getting two cards, i only have one slot and its AGP :p

Yeah, its annoying not living in the US, i wanted to buy a water cooling system from newegg but thats not gonna happen now :( its annoying looking for stuff over here and not being able to find it.. Even if you do find it, its usually a lot more expensive than in the US. Oh well, i guess thats what you get for living in the middle of nowhere!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/OMNI-SUPER-QUIET-500W-P-S-WITH-120MM-FAN-NEW-BOXED-29_W0QQitemZ280077112011QQihZ018QQcategoryZ80173QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This was the 500W PSU i was talking about.. Its a no-name brand so im cautious, but yeah, all the others dont really do anywhere near 30A and like you said, to actually deliver 30A without melting the cables, you'd be looking at 8 AWG OFC copper from my experience! I looked at that Antec PSU you posted the link to, anticlutch, but the shipping to australia is another 65 bucks on top of the price, so its pretty expensive!

anyway, let me know what you think of that one, im gonna keep having a look around for another one :p

[Namslas90]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Antec-Power-Supply-TRUE-POWER-TRIO-TP3-650-650W-ATX-2-2_W0QQitemZ160082585756QQihZ006QQcategoryZ80173QQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem
It's a bit pricey but... all the rest only ship to the US and Canada :|


Only has 19 Amp rail + (20-30%) = 22.8 amps. Kind of low.

[Namslas90]

Well i have quite an old motherboard, you see, so there is no chance of me getting two cards, i only have one slot and its AGP :p

Yeah, its annoying not living in the US, i wanted to buy a water cooling system from newegg but thats not gonna happen now :( its annoying looking for stuff over here and not being able to find it.. Even if you do find it, its usually a lot more expensive than in the US. Oh well, i guess thats what you get for living in the middle of nowhere!

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/OMNI-SUPER-QUIET-500W-P-S-WITH-120MM-FAN-NEW-BOXED-29_W0QQitemZ280077112011QQihZ018QQcategoryZ80173QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This was the 500W PSU i was talking about.. Its a no-name brand so im cautious, but yeah, all the others dont really do anywhere near 30A and like you said, to actually deliver 30A without melting the cables, you'd be looking at 8 AWG OFC copper from my experience! I looked at that Antec PSU you posted the link to, anticlutch, but the shipping to australia is another 65 bucks on top of the price, so its pretty expensive!

anyway, let me know what you think of that one, im gonna keep having a look around for another one :p

Typed in "omni psu" @ google and got linked to people in Austrailia who say that PSU caused them problems. IDK, maybe try again.

[Namslas90]

This site has some good PSU's. Silverstone is OK

http://www.nintek.com.au/x/scripts/prodList.asp?idcategory=484

[Stikk]

Yeah, im not liking the reviews im finding on the Omni PSUs.. Not that i expected too much, i mean, a 500W PSU for like 30 bucks is wishful thinking.. But still, would have been nice :p

I dont really wanna spend more than about $100 on the PSU (AUD) cuz i already spend $360 on the damn card.. Any more than that on a PSU i may aswell get a whole new computer!

[Namslas90]

Don't feel bad, I bought A X1900XTX for $569.00 U.S. and then had to spend another $169.00 on a PSU to make it work!! Well worth the money in my book, the Gateway computer I put it in runs like a Dream!! (See system specs <<<<)

[Stikk]

yeah, i think spending a little more on the psu might be a good idea.. I want a quiet one, too, cuz im trying to shut my computer up.. It makes a hell of a lot of noise at the moment so im looking into making it quieter, but there is almost no airflow in my case at the moment, which is not helping, everything keeps overheating.. My 6600GT killed itself cuz it got too hot, now im stuck with a GeForce 2 64mb until i can get my X1950 PRO working... why do computers have to be so difficult? :p

[Namslas90]

Try and find a PSU w/dual fans. Enermax makes some good quiet one's. Find a way to install a front air intake fan, or maybe even a "blowhole" up top. Airflow through the case can make a big difference in cooling, By turning around my northbridge fan I cooled my GPU down 13' F. It was pushing hot air off my CPU into the GPU. Reversing the fan pulled cool air into the GPU and sent the hot air off the CPU out the back fan.

[whc.demo]

I just got my Sapphire x1950pro 512mb AGP today, as a replacement for my x800xt to go in my antique rig that has a s478 P4 3.4E :)

after i installed it i went and played c0d2 to check out the gfx and performance and my system switched off after around 15mins...

so i came to the conclusion that my psu couldnt cope, so i went and bought another psu with more amps on the 12v rails and its running like a dream so far :toast: touch wood...

i also had to change the fan speeds as the default 41% at 70c seemed a bit low to me lol :S

anyway temps are pretty good 40ish idle & 61 load


the performance is great and im really impressed with it so far :rockout:

although i couldnt work out how to get hdr + aa in oblivion working?? i tried forcing aa in ccc and it didnt work :S

btw im using the drivers that were bundled with the card and havnt tried oc yet

wewt x1950pro :D

edit: after playing for many hours without any problems i started up ghost recon advanced warfighter and about 45 mins later started to get artifacts all over the ground :( oh noes..

[Stikk]

Hey all!

Im back again.. whc.demo, what kind of PSU did you end up buying? How many amps on the 12V rail? Im having real trouble with finding a PSU to handle this monster, Im also trying to understand how its possible to send 30A of current down those tiny little wires!! I cant believe that any PSU will put out that much current, its insane, and dangerous!!

I found this PSU:

http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Power/TR2power/w0101102/w0101102.asp

It looks ok, 550W, dual 12V rails, but working on Namslas90's estimation of 20-30% power from the other rail, this PSU can do like 19.2A, max.. This seems awfully "low" for a 550W PSU from Thermaltake.. If this half kilowatt PSU cant run this card, i dont know what will!! What do you guys reckon? Will this PSU do it?

Thanks
Ollie

[anticlutch]

Well I've just installed my 550w Rosewill psu that has 17/18A on the rail and it's doing fine (much more stable than before). I'm sure that you'll be able to run it on the Thermaltake psu without any problems... and I'd suggest giving up looking for a psu that has 30A per rail... if you think about it, it's not possible unless the wires are huge (bigger wires = more cost for the manufacturer = they probably wouldn't make one with 30A ).

[Stikk]

Ok, did a little more digging and its a little more expensive, but check out what i found...

http://www.ultraproducts.com/product_details.php?cPath=37&pPath=157&productID=160

Apparently has 34A on the 12V rail, which meets ATI's ridiculous claims.. It only has one rail though, i dunno if i should get that one or a dual rail one!! This is all so confusing, why cant they all just do the same thing? :p

Sorry to go on about the PSU issue, guys, but i dont wanna end up spending a whole load of money on a new PSU only to find it doesnt run my new, very expensive, card!

Ollie

[xnox202]

I don't know if this helps, but I'm running my PC X1950 AGP with Enermax Liberty 500W version and it runs fine so far. 32A on both rails total. Haven't got any feeling of 'lack-of-power' or getting weird lags under load. See my specs for details.

ATI just probarbly recommend such numbers maybe for a headroom for some little upgrades we might do, like extra hard disk and such?

[Namslas90]

Well I've just installed my 550w Rosewill psu that has 17/18A on the rail and it's doing fine (much more stable than before). I'm sure that you'll be able to run it on the Thermaltake psu without any problems... and I'd suggest giving up looking for a psu that has 30A per rail... if you think about it, it's not possible unless the wires are huge (bigger wires = more cost for the manufacturer = they probably wouldn't make one with 30A ).

They do make them, and the wires are a little thicker gage. The only problem is they cost more, and are not readily available in Austrailia. Enermax is a good brand, the 600watt and ^ Noise Taker II's meet requirements, as do the liberty and Galaxy series.

[anticlutch]

They do make them, and the wires are a little thicker gage. The oinly problem is they cost more, and are not readily available in Austrailia. Enermax is a good brand, the 600watt and ^ Noise Taker II's meet requirements, as do the liberty and Galaxy series.

I stand corrected :)
If only Newegg delivered worldwide people around the world would be so much happier. :|

[Namslas90]

Ok, did a little more digging and its a little more expensive, but check out what i found...

http://www.ultraproducts.com/product_details.php?cPath=37&pPath=157&productID=160

Apparently has 34A on the 12V rail, which meets ATI's ridiculous claims.. It only has one rail though, i dunno if i should get that one or a dual rail one!! This is all so confusing, why cant they all just do the same thing? :p

Sorry to go on about the PSU issue, guys, but i dont wanna end up spending a whole load of money on a new PSU only to find it doesnt run my new, very expensive, card!

Ollie

It look like it's going to take a while for suppliers in your area to "catch-up" with the available technology. That kind of sucks, but what are you going to do, either wait or pay the shipping from the states or UK; if you can find somebody willing to ship it!

[Stikk]

Thanke everyone for your replies and help! I have narrowed it down to two PSUs that i like, they're not THAT expensive, they're prolly gonna be around $150 AUD each plus shipping from places within the country, but i was wondering if yuo guys could gimme a recommendation on which one i should get.. here's the first one:

http://www.pcmods.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=328_30_359&products_id=29
It's an Ultra X-Connect 500W. It has a single +12V Rail with 34A, apparently..

The second one is...

http://www.pcmods.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=328_30_360&products_id=35
Again, its an Ultra, but it's an X-Finity and it's 600W. Effectively same price, but its got dual rails with 20A and 18A on the +12V rails..
http://www.ultraproducts.com/product_details.php?cPath=52&pPath=383&productID=388

Im pretty sure thats the same PSU in those two links above, one is manufacturer, the other is retailer.. The one i REALLY like is this one:

http://www.ultraproducts.com/product_details.php?cPath=52&pPath=383&productID=467

37A on the 12V rail but i cant seem to find an aussie retailer and shipping is extortionate! :p

Let me know what you guys reckon

Thanks
Ollie

[Namslas90]

I would go with the forth on your list, this gives you room to add another card or for future upgrades.
http://www.ultraproducts.com/product...roductID=4 67

[xnox202]

Now I wonder, before you choose anything.. How the 3 of the chosen psu's gonna perform? I might note that bigger numbers always not the better choice.

[Stikk]

Yeah, i like that one too, but it might be difficult to get hold of.. I dont think adding another card is gonna be an issue, but having said that, im not too sure an entire computer upgrade might be out of the question in the nearish future.. If i could find that X-Finity 2G here in aus, i'd most probably buy it, but i cant, so im a little bit stuck.. Damn newegg, i why dont that do international shipping?! :banghead:

[Namslas90]

Now I wonder, before you choose anything.. How the 3 of the chosen psu's gonna perform? I might note that bigger numbers always not the better choice.

Good question, but not that big an issue, PSU's are PSU's. A more important question is Quality and longevity. Ultra's are not bad, ckeck this out for more information
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108088

[xnox202]

Good question, but not that big an issue, PSU's are PSU's. A more important question is Quality and longevity. Ultra's are not bad, ckeck this out for more information
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108088
Hey that's a good link there! I'm reading it now.

[whc.demo]

Hey all!

Im back again.. whc.demo, what kind of PSU did you end up buying? How many amps on the 12V rail? Ollie


i got a coolermaster 550w with 20a and 18a on the 12v rails for $79 AUD from MSY, pc runs perfectly now, for a cheap psu these things r good quality. it powers my x1950pro ,2hdd's ,dvd drive and 3.4prescott without a hitch.

i think the recommended 30a by ATI is for a crossfire set up, sif this card needs 30a :laugh: 30a x 12v = 360w for card :O
so dont go too overboard trying to find a 30+amp psu!

anything with 2 12v rails with 15a or more on each should be plenty unless u have 16 hdd's..
if only 1 12 rail maybe something above the 22a mark

after reading some reviews a single x1950pro uses around 10 amps and the actuall wattage it uses isnt much more than a x800xt/pe

[Namslas90]

i got a coolermaster 550w with 20a and 18a on the 12v rails for $79 AUD from MSY, pc runs perfectly now, for a cheap psu these things r good quality. it powers my x1950pro ,2hdd's ,dvd drive and 3.4prescott without a hitch.

i think the recommended 30a by ATI is for a crossfire set up, sif this card needs 30a :laugh: 30a x 12v = 360w for card :O
so dont go too overboard trying to find a 30+amp psu!

anything with 2 12v rails with 15a or more on each should be plenty unless u have 16 hdd's..
if only 1 12 rail maybe something above the 22a mark

after reading some reviews a single x1950pro uses around 10 amps and the actuall wattage it uses isnt much more than a x800xt/pe

Depending on the computer, 22 amps will work, most machines 24 amp minimum.

[tkpenalty]

I'm back from the dead! Dammit got shaped..

10amps is seriously too low. The X1950PRO Will consume around 22~23 amps, I would like to know what you had this morning because 10amps = instability/something broken, we are talking about combined amperage. Your coolermaster 550W will do fine without a hitch because its more than 20 amps when combined.

Considering the price difference between the shiny iGreen 600W and the model you purchased, it would have been wiser to buy the iGreen 500W, even though its rated at a lower wattage it can run at 500W+ without any problems, the 600W version can go higher than the rated specification. Or, something like a TopPower, those are great too, with their transparent, mirror surfaces.

Hey guys, is it just me or is it that generic companies have caught the "Honeycomb + 120mm fan = good PSU" disease? I've been seeing lately matte/mirror surfaced generic PSUs with honeycomb grilles as well as the 120mm fan unit.

Example, Omni 550W (550W = number or goodness or number of death), does not state Wattage output and etc, has black matte paint, honeycomb grille and 120mm fan, as well as.... wait for it.....

EPS 8 PIN!!! :roll:

After studying the inner components, the EPS 8 Pin looked like a joke as the heatsinks were tiny and the PSU felt rather light. I was given a free sample and tested the PSU out, with my motherboard requiring a EPS 8 pin I thought it was good to give it a go. Next thing I knew my PC wouldnt even boot up. Second try it did but froze when I started ragnarok online. I think thats like a great feature but not many low-end low-power consumption systems will have EPS.

Apart from that I tried running it seperately just for the GPU and it magically failed! Who said that the X1950PRO only takes 10amps now eh?

Anyone tried running a physics setup with their X1950s?

EDIT: 1000 posts :rockout:

[Tatty_One]

Hey all!

Im back again.. whc.demo, what kind of PSU did you end up buying? How many amps on the 12V rail? Im having real trouble with finding a PSU to handle this monster, Im also trying to understand how its possible to send 30A of current down those tiny little wires!! I cant believe that any PSU will put out that much current, its insane, and dangerous!!

I found this PSU:

http://www.thermaltake.com/product/Power/TR2power/w0101102/w0101102.asp

It looks ok, 550W, dual 12V rails, but working on Namslas90's estimation of 20-30% power from the other rail, this PSU can do like 19.2A, max.. This seems awfully "low" for a 550W PSU from Thermaltake.. If this half kilowatt PSU cant run this card, i dont know what will!! What do you guys reckon? Will this PSU do it?

Thanks
Ollie

When it refers to a 30A requirement it is talking about total output not necessarily on a single rail, the card manufacturer takes into account system draw from other standard system peripherals, having said that my old 1800XT drew 13A at idle (overclocked) according to ATi tool so must have been hitting around 20A at full load, if in doubt get a good high rated single rail, I say that because with a dual or tri rail PSU if the card pulls the max from one rail it is limited on how much it can draw from a second one, and TBH in the cheaper PSU's it prob wont be able to draw anything from an additional rail so if that second rail is say only drawing 12A for the system/CPU and it's a 19 Amper you are wasting the 7A, with higher power drawing cards IMO you may be better with the single rail as all amperage is available for the draw.

[whc.demo]

yer i totally agree with you, i only bought the cheaper cooler master psu to get me out of trouble because i had just spent my money on the card, i will be getting a better psu in the near future..

im just curious to know though if the vid card is drawing ~23a then doesnt that equal 276w just for the card alone!! i dont think so :laugh:



that sounds like a bit much to me, perhaps in a crossfire set up maybe..

[SPHERE]

yer i totally agree with you, i only bought the cheaper cooler master psu to get me out of trouble because i had just spent my money on the card, i will be getting a better psu in the near future..

im just curious to know though if the vid card is drawing ~23a then doesnt that equal 276w just for the card alone!! i dont think so :laugh:



that sounds like a bit much to me, perhaps in a crossfire set up maybe.. in ati tool (if thats the amp reading your refering to) the amps displayed are for the core voltage i think

[tkpenalty]

The X1950PRO doesn't even support voltage monitoring! Guys the Coolermaster 550W will do perfectly fine, it will run without a hitch indefinately. However, some companies like antec have been making shoddy PSUs

[ex_reven]

The X1950PRO doesn't even support voltage monitoring! Guys the Coolermaster 550W will do perfectly fine, it will run without a hitch indefinately. However, some companies like antec have been making shoddy PSUs

i have a truepower 2.0 and a smartpower 2.0, one 480 watter and another 500watter
no problems as of yet. I dont think its shoddiness on their part, maybe their product quality control sucks, who knows...

edit - ive got a x1950 pro and im not even in your club lol...what a travesty

[Pinchy]

:eek: You havent joined yet reven! PM TK

[erocker]

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[Stikk]

Hey all!

Thanks for all your replies, they have been very informative.. I wish they'd put this info on the box so idiots like me dont have to go looking for smart ppl to tell them whats going on :-P On the subject of PSU's again (haha, im annoying, i know), i found one that i like the look of, but im worried it might just be all flashy and pretty and not really any good.. I say i like the look of it, by that i mean i like the specs, im not really bothered by asthetics, it will be inside my case anyway. Here it is:

http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=psXGvortec600

Its a 600W PSU with a whopping 37A on the 12V rail! I read a few reviews on it and the only major complaint i could find was that it had fairly small heatsinks.. Not sure if thats really a big deal, but im sure it would be an improvement over my stock 350W PSU that i have rite now! I'm just wondering, does anyone have any personal (or second hand) experience with this PSU? It's an XG Vortec 600W.

I havent really done anything with my computer since i got it, lol, looking at some of your computers they look rather impressive! My computer just looks like a normal computer, this is the first upgrade i have done to it since i bought it.. I wanna get more RAM, maybe, but i dont know how to find out what kind i need! Anyone know about that?

Once i have my card installed, i'll take some photos and post them on here, since you guys have been an integral part of me getting the card working :p At the moment, it's sitting in its box on the shelf in my room, mocking me.. Its so depressing, i just wanna plug it in and see it work! :p

Ollie

[tkpenalty]

Hey all!

Thanks for all your replies, they have been very informative.. I wish they'd put this info on the box so idiots like me dont have to go looking for smart ppl to tell them whats going on :-P On the subject of PSU's again (haha, im annoying, i know), i found one that i like the look of, but im worried it might just be all flashy and pretty and not really any good.. I say i like the look of it, by that i mean i like the specs, im not really bothered by asthetics, it will be inside my case anyway. Here it is:

http://www.gamedude.com.au/prod_show.php?art_no=psXGvortec600

Its a 600W PSU with a whopping 37A on the 12V rail! I read a few reviews on it and the only major complaint i could find was that it had fairly small heatsinks.. Not sure if thats really a big deal, but im sure it would be an improvement over my stock 350W PSU that i have rite now! I'm just wondering, does anyone have any personal (or second hand) experience with this PSU? It's an XG Vortec 600W.

I havent really done anything with my computer since i got it, lol, looking at some of your computers they look rather impressive! My computer just looks like a normal computer, this is the first upgrade i have done to it since i bought it.. I wanna get more RAM, maybe, but i dont know how to find out what kind i need! Anyone know about that?

Once i have my card installed, i'll take some photos and post them on here, since you guys have been an integral part of me getting the card working :p At the moment, it's sitting in its box on the shelf in my room, mocking me.. Its so depressing, i just wanna plug it in and see it work! :p

Ollie

>_>... Yeah its good but isn't very reliable, I would say thats some extreme (no pun intended) advertising. It has huge rail amperages but I have doubts about its stability, since you live in Australia and the climate is getting HOT.

Its cheap because it doesnt have:
-Native support for EPS 8 Pin
-PCI-E Connector; no dedicated rails for it, you will find that the PSU is stressed more.

If I were you I would get what I got; Can output more than 600W (huuuge heatsinks) and has almost too many connectors. Is shiny as hell and is not a fingerprint magnet (the occasional touch can mean death on normal "shiny" PSUs).

12.4 Volts :eek:

To ex-reven: Your 480W Truepower will do better than your 500W.

[tkpenalty]

http://img.techpowerup.org/070208/DSCN6467482.jpg
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Cable management plox.

[erocker]

I know, I know, I just got the PSU and it's an Antec 900 the cable management sux.

[ex_reven]

To ex-reven: Your 480W Truepower will do better than your 500W.

Yeah but theres a heap less cables :)...

[tkpenalty]

Wait a minute... thats unavoidable clutter.

[Zubasa]

Hi guys~
Today I went out for an Accelero X2 but its out of stock.:cry:
So I get myself a Zalman VF-900Cu instead.
Not the card runs at 38C idle and 51C full load.:D

[Alcpone]

Hi guys,

New clubhouse member ere :)

Not the best pic, but you can see her there!

Not clocked to the max yet, as cant get anything but ccc to oc it!

;)

[tkpenalty]

Hey nice sig, for your sig, add ATI Radeon X1950 Clubhouse and your name to it. lol.

[tkpenalty]

Hi guys~
Today I went out for an Accelero X2 but its out of stock.:cry:
So I get myself a Zalman VF-900Cu instead.
Not the card runs at 38C idle and 51C full load.:D

Its been confirmed, same temps >_>. But I would say your RAM modules are getting heated (that just proves that AcceleroX2 is more popular than VF900CU though).

[Tatty_One]

I have an Accelero lying around doing nothing since I warranty returned my 1800XT.

[Zubasa]

Its been confirmed, same temps >_>. But I would say your RAM modules are getting heated (that just proves that AcceleroX2 is more popular than VF900CU though).
Well at the very lease it is 100 times better than the stock cooler:p
I don't really see the ram are getting near as hot as the core, actually.

[tkpenalty]

Time to make a Zalman signature.

[tkpenalty]

Ok. Here are some better pictures with some updated cable manglement.
http://img.techpowerup.org/070209/casetechpu194.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/070209/incasetechpu592.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/070209/cardtechpu990.jpg

Hey man read the rules of the club, if you haven't realised you arent in yet.

Its marginally better but not much, i would say it would be better to move the 4pin 12V connector UNDER the motherboard tray then from the top of the tray, going down.

See this is what I hate about reversed PSU cases without the lower drive bays.. .clutter D=.

UPDATE OF RULES:

DO NOT USE THE SIGNATURE UNLESS YOU HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED INTO THE CLUB VIA A PM

[erocker]

Frankly, I think that "clubs" are kind of rediculous and really not nessecarry. I just like my card. I'm going to go use it now. L8r.

[tkpenalty]

um whatever