Attention anyone who has a 7600 or x1600 series card

[trt740]

Im thinking of buying a 7600gt 256 mb from evga for 99.00 and was wondering how you like your 7600gt. My kids play at 1440x900 resolution and im wondering how this card performs in games and how you like it. I know I can get faster more expensive cards but I don't need one right now so if you have this card or one similar plz reply but I really don't wish to hear any comments on 7900 1800 1900 0r 8800 series cards I know all about them and have owned the following cards recently 6600gt ,5900 ,x850xt, x1800gto, x1800xt andx1900xt. Im looking for a good budget card for the next year or so so please limit your comments to a 7600 series or 1600 series pci express 16 cards. thx for any and all help

[xman2007]

in that case the x1650xt is a good choice although not sure of the $ but its better than the 7600gt and is based on the same r570 core as the x1950pro cards its the best budget/mid-midrange? card imo lol

EDIT: just saw 99 is that $ wont get much for that tbh, surprised you said you can get a 7600gt if so id say get that doubt youll get any better for $99

[Old Bear]

For x1600Pro (my ex-card) not bad but if you or your kids like games look nice & with all settings on, get something faster! That x1650xt is good choice for sure.

[trt740]

well that card is not a budget card the x1650xt cost from 150.00 to 200 dollars, but thx for the response

[AthlonX2]

i have a 7600gt and i have to say its a very nice card and runs quite well for me..although i only play TW07 and warrock but i can can play both at max settings at 1280x1024 and still get good fps

[{Sniping}Waste]

Is that 7600GT for $99 a real 7600GT? I have seen so called 7600GTs with DDR2 (not DDR3) and preform close to a 7600GS then a 7600GT. Real 7600GT's are around $130.

Newegg has a X1900GT around $155 and I have seen referbs of this card at newegg for $120. This would be the best card in the price range your looking at.

EDIT
Newegg now raised the price to $169 now.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102022

Newegg has a MSI X1650XT for $139
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814127226

[JC316]

TBH, the x1300XT is probably a really good deal. There is a revew of it here and it can really fly, plus it's only like $80 shipped.

[Old Bear]

x1300xt is x1600Pro with new name. But if it is just $80, go for it. And 7600gt for $99, even better!

[Tatty_One]

The 1300XT or the 1600pro cannot match the 7600Gt, the 1650Pro IS the faster and IMO better card but when you look at the price differences IMO the 7600GT is best "bang for Buck".

[trt740]

no this is a evga 7600gt 256 ddr 3 video card selling at micro center its 119 with a 20 dollar rebate or 99.00

[trt740]

how would this bad boy compare http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102048

[Gwargor]

I had that same card for a little while and if you can get one for $99 it's a good deal. Plenty of power for your kids PC. I never used it at 1440x900 resolution, but it should be fine for the kids and it's much better than x16xx pro.

[Tatty_One]

It wont, DDR2 memory and a LOT slower than the 7600GT, you would struggle to play a recent game on medium settings there at all.

Edit: sorry forgot to "quote"....thsi was in response to your 1300XT link.

[SlipSlice]

Definately not a "badboy", but it is a very good budget card for you kids anyway. Since it is like the x1600 pro, depending on processor speed, ram and such on your other computer, it will run bf2 at decent to high settings with a good res. I know this because a buddy of mine had one. Im sure it will run most game well. :)

slip

[trt740]

anyone know if I bought the one 7600gt then later bought a 7600gt for say a lower amount because the price will drop in the future what would two 7600gts in sli be equal two.

[Tatty_One]

anyone know if I bought the one 7600gt then later bought a 7600gt for say a lower amount because the price will drop in the future what would two 7600gts in sli be equal two.

I think around or slightly better than your 1900XT performance if both setups were on your current rig, I have heard of 2 x 7600Gt's in SLI acheiving....... dependant on system specs 11-12000 in 3D Mark 2005.

[SlipSlice]

Yea those 7600GT's are bad. If you payed $200 on 2 7600GT's you will beat the price of a ATI Radeon X1900XT. And it will run better being in SLi..what a setup, I would go for it if I was you.

[trt740]

I was thinking of buying just one and maybe in the future adding another when the prices really drop

[Tatty_One]

I was thinking of buying just one and maybe in the future adding another when the prices really drop

TBH, they are never gonna get much below $99 ever, you just need to look around today at prices for 6800Ultras or 850XT's, they come down so much but they never quite give them away at ridiculous prices well certainly not in a couple of years.

[SlipSlice]

TBH, they are never gonna get much below $99 ever, you just need to look around today at prices for 6800Ultras or 850XT's, they come down so much but they never quite give them away at ridiculous prices well certainly not in a couple of years.

Not necessarily, the 9550 I had now, "built by ATI" was like $120 at Newegg about 1 year ago, and it was $140 at Bestbuy because that is where I got it. Now if you go to newegg it is like 49.99. Haven't checked the exact price. But at bestbuy it is down to like $89.99, or maybe $100 bucks at most. Things do drop quick, just depending on what you are looking for.

[xman2007]

Not necessarily, the 9550 I had now, "built by ATI" was like $120 at Newegg about 1 year ago, and it was $140 at Bestbuy because that is where I got it. Now if you go to newegg it is like 49.99. Haven't checked the exact price. But at bestbuy it is down to like $89.99, or maybe $100 bucks at most. Things do drop quick, just depending on what you are looking for.


damn you got ripped off $140 = £70ish lol you could of got a x1300/x1600/7300gt/9800/x700pro etc etc for that price a year ago :twitch:

i wouldnt pay $50 for one of those now you could probably get a 6200 for around that and that would beat a 9550

[Gwargor]

Not necessarily, the 9550 I had now, "built by ATI" was like $120 at Newegg about 1 year ago, and it was $140 at Bestbuy because that is where I got it. Now if you go to newegg it is like 49.99. Haven't checked the exact price. But at bestbuy it is down to like $89.99, or maybe $100 bucks at most. Things do drop quick, just depending on what you are looking for.

You got ripped off paying that much for a 9550 a year ago. The 7600GT was and is a good midrange card that was going for about $200 about 4 months ago, but the 9550 was never in that in that class. Two 7600GTs in sli are faster than a X1900XT, but the IQ won't be as good.

[-1nf1n1ty-]

I'd Say a 7600GT but get it from a different company Like BFG or 3DFuzion

[SlipSlice]

damn you got ripped off $140 = £70ish lol you could of got a x1300/x1600/7300gt/9800/x700pro etc etc for that price a year ago :twitch:

i wouldnt pay $50 for one of those now you could probably get a 6200 for around that and that would beat a 9550

Well this was not the Christmas of the new year of 07, but of the new year of 06, so yea over a year. but I got it at Bestbuy, and they are always usually high on prices. I don't know how much it was on Newegg, I don't even thing I knew about Newegg then, lol.

[Gwargor]

Well this was not the Christmas of the new year of 07, but of the new year of 06, so yea over a year. but I got it at Bestbuy, and they are always usually high on prices. I don't know how much it was on Newegg, I don't even thing I knew about Newegg then, lol.

Dude I paid $150 for a 9500 4 years ago and that card smokes a 9550. That's how bad you got ripped off.;)

[SlipSlice]

Dude I paid $150 for a 9500 4 years ago and that card smokes a 9550. That's how bad you got ripped off.;)

Ok im done talking bout' how bad i got ripped off, I could care less. This was like a long time ago, and i have definately gotten my moneys worth out of the 9550/9550's that I have had. I have flashed them from no end, lol.

but I have had some good and bad experiences with them..

[tkpenalty]

Yea those 7600GT's are bad. If you payed $200 on 2 7600GT's you will beat the price of a ATI Radeon X1900XT. And it will run better being in SLi..what a setup, I would go for it if I was you.

No... It wouldn't, do you know how SLI/Crossfire even works? X1900XT>7600GT SLI, get your facts right man...

[sno.lcn]

I love my 7600gt, and I kinda want another one for sli. It overclocks pretty well (running now @ 640/840) and does about 7100 in 3dmark05. There's a guy on ocforums (http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=496021) that is getting almost 7500 with his and could probably do a good bit better with a volt mod. I think I paid around $300 for mine new so $100 is definitely a good deal!

[trt740]

thats very good and will play most games

[Zubasa]

No... It wouldn't, do you know how SLI/Crossfire even works? X1900XT>7600GT SLI, get your facts right man...
Agree.
1+1 IS NOT = 2 in hardware :p
Should always consider the latency between the hardware.

[trt740]

o well but two cards would run very well

[tkpenalty]

o well but two cards would run very well

A bit better but not much than an X1650XT. Besides, it doesn't support HDR+AA while the X1650XT does extremely well with it. There is physics capability as well (its useless right now but DX10 it will be useful). Like R600/X2600+X1kxx GPU Setup would work well.

Extra Info: 7600GT>7600GS SLI

[Tatty_One]

Agree.
1+1 IS NOT = 2 in hardware :p
Should always consider the latency between the hardware.

Noone said 1+1 equals 2 in hardware,unless I missed something. he (TRT) is getting with his current rig just over 11000 something 3D Mark 2005 points with his 1900XT 256MB, there are 2 people in these forums that I know of with 7600Gt's running in SLi and are getting 11500 3D Mark 2005 scores (therefore single 7600GT can = 7000 points plus 4500 for second GT in SLi = much less than double!) so it speaks for itself really, 2 x 7600GT's = single 1900XT 256MB roughly which was all that I (not slipslice indicated).

[Tatty_One]

No... It wouldn't, do you know how SLI/Crossfire even works? X1900XT>7600GT SLI, get your facts right man...


Check my post above....same reply.

[Darknova]

I own an XFX 7600GT 256Mb and it is a very good midrange card imo. In a few months, when I can afford it, I will be getting another to put into SLi.
Currently I can play all games at decent settings at 1280x1024. I can play Oblivion a 1280x1024 at max detail without any effects like HDR (it annoys me anyway) and I get decent frame rates (40+) so I definately recommend the 7600GT

[Wile E]

Noone said 1+1 equals 2 in hardware,unless I missed something. he (TRT) is getting with his current rig just over 11000 something 3D Mark 2005 points with his 1900XT 256MB, there are 2 people in these forums that I know of with 7600Gt's running in SLi and are getting 11500 3D Mark 2005 scores (therefore single 7600GT can = 7000 points plus 4500 for second GT in SLi = much less than double!) so it speaks for itself really, 2 x 7600GT's = single 1900XT 256MB roughly which was all that I (not slipslice indicated).That's in 3dMark05, but how does it stack up in 3dMark06, or in actual gameplay?

[Tatty_One]

That's in 3dMark05, but how does it stack up in 3dMark06, or in actual gameplay?

Couldnt tell you as I dont own them, however 2005 is a better measure of graphics performance than 2006 which factors in CPU/system speed to a higher degree than 2005, the IQ is not going to be as good for sure and whilst benchmarks are synthetic its really the only method of comparison unless you can get both to test on ones own rig but I think Slipstream was talking in speed terms from his post in any case, as I was and he was just agreeing with me I think.

However, bottom line is, I would still prefer the single card solution in any case! but for that kind of performance, if you already own a SLi board and a powerful enuff PSU then 2 x $99 for that kind of potential aint bad.

[trt740]

okay heres the deal im selling my x1900xt and just bought a x850xt 256 for 79.00 shipped that should hold me over for a while plus I sold my 0pty 175 for 230.00 and purchased a 0pty 185 for 335.00 so im set. My cpu is now the max 939 cpu and the x850xt will play just about everything out without shader 3.0 but its faster than a 7600gt and has a 256 bit bus. Also at 79.00 its a steal. I will sell it in a year or so when dx10 becomes main stream.

[Tatty_One]

okay heres the deal im selling my x1900xt and just bought a x850xt 256 for 79.00 shipped that should hold me over for a while plus I sold my 0pty 175 for 230.00 and purchased a 0pty 185 for 335.00 so im set. My cpu is now the max 939 cpu and the x850xt will play just about everything out without shader 3.0 but its faster than a 7600gt and has a 256 bit bus. Also at 79.00 its a steal. I will sell it in a year or so when dx10 becomes main stream.

Nice deal! let me know how you get on overclocking the 185....we can have a little mini competition once I get mine to see who can get the most outta it :D

Still can't quite grasp why you want the more powerful CPU but the lesser Gfx unless you do a lot of video, calculation, encrypt and math stuff?

[trt740]

I just wanted to max out my system and am I glad I did this monster is running on avereage 22c Idle/ max load both core 34c at 250x12 core 1.475v thats about ten degrees cooler at idle better than my opty 175 idle 31c and max load 50c at 236x11 or 2.6 ghz core 1.50v. This moster already went 3.2ghz on air and I'm hardly tweaking it.

[Grings]

ive built a few computers for friends recently, and would say the 7600gt is on a par with an 1800gto (non unlocked), and a bit quicker than a 1650xt (which f*£$^ up, and was replaced by a 7600gt)

and tatty, where the hell have you found 185's for sale?? i looked everywhere, and ended up getting a 165 as it was all i could bloody find (if there is somewhere in the uk, this thing will be going up for sale)

edit: just noticed you got an x850 cheap, never mind

[Tatty_One]

ive built a few computers for friends recently, and would say the 7600gt is on a par with an 1800gto (non unlocked), and a bit quicker than a 1650xt (which f*£$^ up, and was replaced by a 7600gt)

and tatty, where the hell have you found 185's for sale?? i looked everywhere, and ended up getting a 165 as it was all i could bloody find (if there is somewhere in the uk, this thing will be going up for sale)

edit: just noticed you got an x850 cheap, never mind

Well my little secret hideaway will receive 20 on the 30th January, £207 each + P&P.

[Grings]

scan have 180's back in stock, £176

[Tatty_One]

scan have 180's back in stock, £176

£30 more buys you a 185 tho and I would still have the 185 I think, if they dont get them in by the 30th then I may get impatient and go for the 180. You thinking of a 185? If you are I will let you in on the etailer.

[trt740]

get the 185 mines runs so cool im using the stock heatsink no need for for a after market cooler and there is a giant difference from my opty 175

[tkpenalty]

Wow that is cheap. Overall X850XT>all the midrange.

[Grings]

Well my little secret hideaway will receive 20 on the 30th January, £207 each + P&P.

too skint at moment, saving for 8800(&core2), i can get 2.8 out of this chip, but im gonna improve motherboard cooling first(does over 300fsb, but gets hot)

[trt740]

got a 6800ultra 256 mb ddr3 PCIE 16 for 111.00. I realize its older but its still faster than a 1600 series except x1650xt and faster than a 7600gs

[tkpenalty]

How do people get those for those prices?!

[Zubasa]

Some times trucks got jacked.:roll:

[trt740]

http://img.techpowerup.org/070121/temps378.jpg

[trt740]

heres the heat sink that comes with the Opterons its about 1 /4th the size of my freezer pro and the temps shown above are with the freezer pro but the stock heatsink comes close to its performance.

http://img.techpowerup.org/070121/Opteron165-UpgradetoX2-lazyman-9781.jpg


http://img.techpowerup.org/070121/Opteron165-UpgradetoX2-lazyman-9784040.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/070121/Opteron165-UpgradetoX2-lazyman-9783.jpg

check out the 4 heatpipes reminds me of my accelerox2 vga cooler

I realize this was about a video card and its off topic but here it is

[tkpenalty]

Those temp readings are way off...

[tkpenalty]

Some times trucks got jacked.:roll:

No kidding... memory chips and PCBs are the new drugs of taiwan and hong kong...

[Lazzer408]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102022 $169 (x1900gt 256mb)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102041 $99 (X1600PRO 512MB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814103019 $118 (1650pro 512mb)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814161036 $114 (1650pro 512mb)

I just knoticed these have a 128bit memory interface except for the 1900xl 256bit.

[trt740]

Um no they are not they are correct. Ive used this mother board for along time. Those temps are correct. Do a search for temps Opteron 185 thats about what they idle at. I just took a Opteron 175 out and it idled at around 30c. The bio temps read the same and the Bios is only 4 months old.

[trt740]

will post you a temp under load remember this rooms temp is about 64degrees F

[trt740]

in the reviews even on new egg look at the first reviews idle temps

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103002

[trt740]

it doesn't get any higher and remeber this temp are with a Arctic Freezer 64 Pro Arctic silver 5 and a Antec Spot fan Pointed at my north bridge which has a fan on it already.
http://img.techpowerup.org/070122/opty load.jpg

this temp goes between 40c/43c