I need an opinion..Saphire X800GTO or Saphire X1600XT??? QUICK!

[khaos201]

I have x800GTO, but i can trade it for an 1600XT 256DDR3 ...
WHICH ONE IS BETTER?????????

quick

Thanks !!

[Rurouni Strife]

Depends. If your GTO is unlocked to the full 16 pipes and you dont play a lot of Shader Model 3 games, then you should probably stick to the GTO. It'll preform better in most games. However, If you play a lot of Shader Model 3 games and really want HDR, and it isn't unlocked, I would either sell it and buy a x1800 GTO (if you can find) or a x1900 gt. Though honestly, I'm not a big fan of the x1600 cards (x1650 is alright).

[{Sniping}Waste]

I have x800GTO, but i can trade it for an 1600XT 256DDR3 ...
WHICH ONE IS BETTER?????????

quick

Thanks !!
Whats you price range? I have seen X1900GT for around the $155 at newegg and even the same card referb for around $120.

[khaos201]

i'm in romania dude :P here it's 250$ (x1900GT)

AND!! I HAVE 12 PIPES.... cant unlock... I PLAY BOTH SM 3 , SM2 games

BUT!!!!!!!! FOR EXAMPLE., Rainbow Six VEGAS doesnt work with x800GTO..

SO???????????????????? WHAT SHOULD I DO ??????

[{Sniping}Waste]

i'm in romania dude :P here it's 250$ (x1900GT)

AND!! I HAVE 12 PIPES.... cant unlock... I PLAY BOTH SM 3 , SM2 games

BUT!!!!!!!! FOR EXAMPLE., Rainbow Six VEGAS doesnt work with x800GTO..

SO???????????????????? WHAT SHOULD I DO ??????
Can you post the prices of the cards your looking at so we help you out a little more. Sorry I didn't know you lived in Romania and not the USA. Are you looking at PCI-E or AGP?

[DaMulta]

i'm in romania dude :P here it's 250$ (x1900GT)

AND!! I HAVE 12 PIPES.... cant unlock... I PLAY BOTH SM 3 , SM2 games

BUT!!!!!!!! FOR EXAMPLE., Rainbow Six VEGAS doesnt work with x800GTO..

SO???????????????????? WHAT SHOULD I DO ??????I would go with the newer card.

[xman2007]

i played rainbow sis vegas on my x1600pro so you will be able to play on a x1600xt with a cpl more fps, but dont expect to play it at max settings

[error_f0rce]

My advice: Stay away from SAPPHIRE... RMAing my X800GTO right now. Worked great for 8 months, then out of the blue one day pink artifacts all over my screen. Have since read of many other people having more problems with SAPPHIRE than other brands.

Personally? If you want an ATi card, stick to the ATi brand cards. Also heard good things about POWERCOLOR.

[Kammster]

i'm in romania dude :P here it's 250$ (x1900GT)

AND!! I HAVE 12 PIPES.... cant unlock... I PLAY BOTH SM 3 , SM2 games

BUT!!!!!!!! FOR EXAMPLE., Rainbow Six VEGAS doesnt work with x800GTO..

SO???????????????????? WHAT SHOULD I DO ??????

with only 12 pipes u might be better off in the long term with the x1600 Xt.
also the the 128 bit memory bus is going to limit your frames in high res.

i also have a saphhire x800 gto gives me problems. check the sapphire forums to see if people have problems with that model of x1600 xt.

[PuMA]

My advice: Stay away from SAPPHIRE... RMAing my X800GTO right now. Worked great for 8 months, then out of the blue one day pink artifacts all over my screen. Have since read of many other people having more problems with SAPPHIRE than other brands.

Personally? If you want an ATi card, stick to the ATi brand cards. Also heard good things about POWERCOLOR.



I had the same thing with my club3d 6600gt, had to RMA it twice lol :wtf: :wtf:
The pc shop guy told me that club3d 6600gt line is fukked and they (club3d) didnt even have a card to sent me for 3 moths cuz every1 was Rma'ing they're 6600 gt's, wich BTW is a really nice card.

anyways I would go with 1600XT: newer card, new architecture, and SM 3.0

[khaos201]

thx guys ...u were very helpfull !!!!

SO THE CONLUSION :) NO MONEY, SIMPLY EXCHANGE ...X800GTO OR X1600XT?? I CAN PLAY GAMES WITH ANTIALIASING X6(OBLIVION...) ON MY X800GTO, BUT IT HAS 2.1 , AND THE ONLY ADVANTAGE IS THE 256BIT MEMORY BUS...IT'S GREAT, BUT IT'S LIMITED!

WHAT I AM INTERESTED IN IS THE GAMING PERFORMANCE ON X1600XT...I'VE HEARD IT SUCKS.... SOOOOOOOOO??

[khaos201]

BY THE WAY... IN ROMANIA, THE PRICES ON ELECTRONICS ARE BIIIIIIGGGGGG...
IF A VIDEO CARD IS LIKE 150$ IN USA, HERE IS 250$ ( AND THE SALARY IS 160$/MONTH :p)...AND SO ON!!

SOMEBODY SAID TO ME THAT HE WOULD GIVE ME A X1600XT FOR MY X800GTO..AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE ASKING U GUYS...

IF ANYONE HAS X1600XT AND CAN TELL ME THE GAMING PERFORMANCE , GREAT!!

I DONT KNOW ABOUT SAPHIRE A LOT, MAYBE THEY DO FRY AFTER A WILD...IF I COULD HAVE SOME CASH, I WOULD GET A 7900GT , OR A X1900GT, ETC...

[Random Murderer]

i have the exact x1600 you are talking about. its an expensive paperweight. you will definately have better performance from the x800. i had an x800xt, and when i got an x1600xt i was sorely disappointed.

[khaos201]

THX MAN...BUT WHAT SPEEDS DO u HAVE ON THAT 1600XT??

so i should stick to the x800gto?? ok then ...

[{Sniping}Waste]

BY THE WAY... IN ROMANIA, THE PRICES ON ELECTRONICS ARE BIIIIIIGGGGGG...
IF A VIDEO CARD IS LIKE 150$ IN USA, HERE IS 250$ ( AND THE SALARY IS 160$/MONTH :p)...AND SO ON!!

SOMEBODY SAID TO ME THAT HE WOULD GIVE ME A X1600XT FOR MY X800GTO..AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE ASKING U GUYS...

IF ANYONE HAS X1600XT AND CAN TELL ME THE GAMING PERFORMANCE , GREAT!!

I DONT KNOW ABOUT SAPHIRE A LOT, MAYBE THEY DO FRY AFTER A WILD...IF I COULD HAVE SOME CASH, I WOULD GET A 7900GT , OR A X1900GT, ETC...
The X800GTO has the raw power advantage compared to a X1600XT. The only advantage the X1600XT has over the X800GTO is SM3 and pixel shading power. I have both a X800GTO and a sapphire X1600XT engineering sample and in most cases the X800GTO is faster.

[Random Murderer]

THX MAN...BUT WHAT SPEEDS DO u HAVE ON THAT 1600XT??

so i should stick to the x800gto?? ok then ...

i have it oc'd to 650 core and 750 memory

[khaos201]

u have ddr3 right???? that means 650/1500.. AND U ARE NOT PLEASED WITH THAT???
any 3dmark scores??

damn ..must be a bad video card...

[Random Murderer]

u have ddr3 right???? that means 650/1500.. AND U ARE NOT PLEASED WITH THAT???
any 3dmark scores??

damn ..must be a bad video card...

no, the speeds are fine, it is gddr3.

what really kills it is the fact that it only has 4 pixel pipelines and a 128 bit bus...:shadedshu

[khaos201]

as far as i know it has 12 pixel pipeline...

[Random Murderer]

as far as i know it has 12 pixel pipeline...

thats what everyone thinks.
thats even what newegg reports it as.
its really a 4 pipe card with 3 shaders per pipe... 4x3=12 :nutkick:

if they would give the x1600xt 4 more pipes i bet it could compete with the best of them...

[DaMulta]

Its not that the x1600 is a bad card its just not as powerfull as the card you have. The thing is that its newer and can play these games that you can't play. It has HDR for one I messed up my x1600pro and went to a 800XT. The 800XT is faster but in ways I liked the x1600pro better.

[khaos201]

thanks a lot guys!!...i'll make a decision...

[Zubasa]

thats what everyone thinks.
thats even what newegg reports it as.
its really a 4 pipe card with 3 shaders per pipe... 4x3=12 :nutkick:

if they would give the x1600xt 4 more pipes i bet it could compete with the best of them...
That is the X1650XT:p
8x3=24:nutkick:
And by the way, the X1600XT is now the X1650Pro.

[Random Murderer]

That is the X1650XT:p
8x3=24:nutkick:
And by the way, the X1600XT is now the X1650Pro.

really? hmmm. maybe they could make a 12 pipe 1600xt and call it a day.

[Zubasa]

Well...
That is how the X1K series works.
My X1950Pro is 12x3 = 36 Pixel Shaders

[Random Murderer]

Well...
That is how the X1K series works.
My X1950Pro is 12x3 = 36 Pixel Shaders

so what would the 16 pipe, 3 shader per pipe version be?

[KennyT772]

x1900xl xt xtx/x1950xt xtx

[Zubasa]

Also the X1950XT and XTX
All the cards tht use R580 core has 12 pipes and 48ps (except the GT/GTO)