Compliment to the forums: MASSIVE ATTENDANCE rate by comparison to others I frequent!

[Alec§taar]

Heh, I looked today, & the past few days this week, just for comparison's sake... & this place AVERAGES around 1100-1800 folks @ ANY 1 TIME!

I used to attend other forums (majorgeeks.com & ntcompatible.com + others) & they don't even begin to scratch that...

:)

* That tell you guys anything?

(It does me...)

APK

[Canuto]

It's called ownage :p :D

PS: What happened to the sigpic?

[Alec§taar]

It's called ownage :p :D

Agreed - it's just a "better place to be", in terms of techno-help (and, I've poked around in about 10 over time, maybe more, since 1997 or so on the web @ least), AND people imo... coolest moderators/admins I have ever seen, just good people!

PS: What happened to the sigpic?

I decided against it recently (yesterday), because I don't want to be an "elitist", for lack of a better term.

There seems to be some 'animosity' against it @ times, so I steer clear of it.

Nothing against it really, other than it ate up a LOT of signature space, & we only get so many lines & so many characters, etc.

APK

[v-zero]

Probably because most forums out there have become so biased, PC (Politically Correct) and dictated over that they just aren't worth visiting any more.

Plus TPU is just teh pwnzor lol.

[Jimmy 2004]

Well, one thing that stands out on these forums for me is that everything is controlled at the right level in most cases. Debates are allowed, but if they get out of hand they will be stopped. Also, the mods don't tend to gang up against certain users - I've seen forums where all the mods act like lemmings and do the same as each other, but on here they act based on the cirumstances.

Generally speaking, the forums go on by themselves, but there are mods keeping a close eye on things and making sure nothing goes wrong. The design of the site also helps, pretty simple but it has everything that you need without seeming cluttered - and there isn't a separte forums for every single topic, most of them are grouped which actually suits most people, because a question often covers a number of things.

Edit: plus TPU has its own software - most other sites this focused on forums don't have such a wide range of features and applications.

[Sasqui]

Yes, and no advertisements here! I logged into Tomshardware forums (ick) a while back to respond to a thread and could hardly tell the ADs from the thread topic.

[overcast]

Probably because most forums out there have become so biased, PC (Politically Correct) and dictated over that they just aren't worth visiting any more.

Plus TPU is just teh pwnzor lol.
TPU isn't dictated over? I beg to differ. This forum is absolutely run politically correct to prevent someones feelings from being eHurt.

[Alec§taar]

TPU isn't dictated over? I beg to differ.

It is, to some extent, like any other forums... but, from what I have seen? MUCH less "dictator-like" than some others I have been to, @ least.

:)

* Heh, it would be funny to see a board with NO MODERATION whatsoever... I'd wager it'd degenerate into utter chaos, w/ out SOME controls on it & its members @ least.

APK

P.S.=> Some of the stuff folks describe above, I've seen it... crooked mods, or mods that act like 'clones' of one another (acting w/ the "group collective clique" mentality, in other words, lol, cronies of 1 PERSON as this usually works & HIS "yes-men"), swarming attacks on 1 person (lol, been 'victim' to this before, & had to 'teach some lessons' to put it mildly for it) OR group, etc. & I see little to NONE of that "madness-N-lunacy" here... apk

[Steevo]

It is, to some extent, like any other forums... but, from what I have seen? MUCH less "dictator-like" than some others I have been to, @ least.

:)

* Heh, it would be funny to see a board with NO MODERATION whatsoever... I'd wager it'd degenerate into utter chaos, w/ out SOME controls on it & its members @ least.

APK

P.S.=> Some of the stuff folks describe above, I've seen it... crooked mods, or mods that act like 'clones' of one another (acting w/ the "group collective clique" mentality, in other words, lol, cronies of 1 PERSON as this usually works & HIS "yes-men"), swarming attacks on 1 person (lol, been 'victim' to this before, & had to 'teach some lessons' to put it mildly for it) OR group, etc. & I see little to NONE of that "madness-N-lunacy" here... apk

Bahh.



We used to have a forum that rocked strong for a few years untill the mod crew got too happy with deleting threads, locking them, and handing ot bans and warnings. I was a mod too. But was way more laid back.


Hell, people are gonna do what they want, and THEY are who makes the forum, not the staff. That was the reason that we finally went 404. No members, no more money from adverts, no more original posts, less members, till all there was is two lonely spiders that we named hanging around.

[PVTCaboose1337]

TPU is teh 1337 ftw because it is a small community and we all want to talk to each other.

[Guttboy]

Agreed...I hate the ads in Toms Forums....this forum is great...lots of help (a few bad apples but you will get them anywhere) and support!!!

[Thermopylae_480]

Your thread was closed because it was a hate thread. It's sole purpose was to discriminate against a minority group. Hate isn't funny, it's not a game. It hurts people, it doesn't matter if you think their choice is unethical, it does not give you the right to impede theirs. Your freedom of speech does not extend to protect unsubstantiated hate mongering. I would suggest not butting heads with me on this issue, as it is one of the few I will not be persuaded against.

[Alec§taar]

Bahh.

Heh, ok, I suppose I "merit that", because I didn't express myself well enough (I meant yea, the mods here are cool, but so is the ENTIRE forum membership imo)!

I haven't been expressing myself as well as I should lately... too much rush, maybe I am just "out of it"? I don't know...

Granted: Your personal experience/mileage MAY vary vs. others... but, I agree, largely w/ your assessments/feelings below:

We used to have a forum that rocked strong for a few years untill the mod crew got too happy with deleting threads, locking them, and handing ot bans and warnings. I was a mod too. But was way more laid back.

I've modded/admin'd a few sites for a bit on each!

(IRC first, #Windows95 on Dalnet the then "official Windows help channel" for that network, endorsed by K. Mardem Bey, creator of MIRC no less, which was nice back then circa 1995-2000)

Then, on webforums: windowsxperience.com (dead site now) & on the web @ majorgeeks.com (the latter & former sites as far as admin/mod, I was done wrong by, & just going to their forums period after that? NO WAY - I don't deal w/ people of that nature, period - folks that ask me to help them, & turn on me).

It's when I decided I am NOT that good of a mod/admin, period, really (I do NOT like my posts edited, or being lied to, or turned on when I was asked to help in any capacity by folks)...

Still, I don't do it anymore because I can't devote much time to that anymore really ontop of normal poster contributions.

PLUS, I am TOO "moody" & admit it... I am 'better' about it now, imo @ least by comparison to before, but I can still 'snap' @ times & this makes me a poor choice imo, until I learn to "step back for a day or two, & THEN reply" type of thing.

* I'm getting better @ it I would like to think, lol!

Hell, people are gonna do what they want, and THEY are who makes the forum, not the staff.

Oh, certainly, I agree... this is really what I meant, but still, imo? The staff here's really good, especially considering they're younger folks (mostly)... I was (& yes, still am @ times) a real "hothead" when I was younger...

That was the reason that we finally went 404. No members, no more money from adverts, no more original posts, less members, till all there was is two lonely spiders that we named hanging around.

That blows... it really does. I hate seeing good things go bad, & die... I really do.

Still, nothing lasts forever I guess!

APK

[Steevo]

I hate them no more or less than the Windows Vista EULA. It sucks, but it is there. It is inconsequential to me that they are homosexual or heterosexual, just the fact that it is flaunted in most. And I do know some, and have worked with one. I simply disagree with their choice of lifestyle, as they probably disagree with mine.



I didn't start it to get a flame war going. But it is always homosexuality that takes the news, and it is absurd. Where are the news articles about how a "straight" man was made fun of and the provocateur had to undergo therapy to over come his situation. There isn't.


It is the extra portion of rights and boohoo attitude that I disagree with.


So please don't insinuate that I have a burning hatred and death wish to all who choose a different lifestyle.

[Alec§taar]

Agreed...I hate the ads in Toms Forums....this forum is great...lots of help (a few bad apples but you will get them anywhere) and support!!!

Do you? I can "Fix that" for you... I never SEE one of them, ever... "pm" me, if you don't want to!

:)

APK

[JC316]

Hell yeah! TPU is the best damn forum you will find. Small group that frequents, execllent knowlodge base, and a few characters to keep things interesting. The mods are decent and there are 0 ads.

[Steevo]

Tis why I made my home here. See that is my little cardboard box in the corner. ------>

[hv43082]

How are we compared to anandtech's and tomshardware's forums in terms of number of visitors and members? I for once like the simple and straight forward layout of this site. Anandtech and Toms are just way too busy.

[xman2007]

well i probably wouldnt have anything to say against the mods albeit on 2 occasions where ive tried to voice my opinions and the mods have blatently cut my threads or banned me for no reason given (which i may add i had w1zzard lift the one ban i have received after one day because i was banned for no cause, and he must of agreed with me *cough danthebanjoman cough* lol ) and to me unless there is hatemongering, incitment to riot or plain immoral/indecent talkings going on then freedom of speech should be allowed


aside from those 2 occasions i find tpu to be the best online community i have joined. period. :rockout:

[overcast]

well i probably wouldnt have anything to say against the mods albeit on 2 occasions where ive tried to voice my opinions and the mods have blatently cut my threads or banned me (which i may add i had w1zzard lift after one day because i was banned for no cause, and he must of agreed with me *cough danthebanjoman cough* lol ) and to me unless there is hatemongering, incitment to riot or plain immoral/indecent talkings going on thjen freedom of speech should be allowed
Welcome to my life. I must hold the record for most banned user :)

[xman2007]

Welcome to my life. I must hold the record for most banned user :)

is that not casheti lol although that could be because i havent seen you as much as him (due to the fact ur always banned lol) and he seems to be one of those that does attract the mods attn now and again lol

[xman2007]

Welcome to my life. I must hold the record for most banned user :)

are you english btw lol

[Thermopylae_480]

This is enough, if you have a problem with a specific incident, than you need to contact the moderator who issued the infraction, in private, and politely discuss why you think it was unwarranted. Infractions can be removed, and if you can make a decent case, without insulting or belittling anyone, than it just might happen.

[overcast]

are you english btw lol

Nope, American.

[xman2007]

This is enough, if you have a problem with a specific incident, than you need to contact the moderator who issued the infraction, in private, and politely discuss why you think it was unwarranted. Infractions can be removed, and if you can make a decent case, without insulting or belittling anyone, than it just might happen.

this is what im saying, who implyed sp? they have a problem with anyone, i think its nice were talking about tpu and what it means to us members and what our gripes we have , again free speach comes into play :o

[Steevo]

NO. There is never a need to bash mods.


They are doing a service here by keeping the trolls out and helping to keep focus.



If you were pointing that at me Thermopylae I'm sorry, and if not I am still sorry.




I got my first banning from a site way back in the day for bringing to light my half of the story, copy and paste from PM's and that was a mistake. And a banning I deserved. All brought on by me trying to be a young know it all punk.



I respect the mods here and have no beef with any of them. I left a site and the folding team when I was in first place about to break a million points and had helped the team with my farm of systems. I left as they were running nazi wild on peeps. I ended up here and here I stay.


TPU FTW!!!!! 111111111 WAFFLES WAFFLES twelve twelve

[Thermopylae_480]

The only reason I said that was because this thread was brought back as a deliberate attack against me for closing a thread, that would have quickly got out of hand, and issuing 0pt warning for using derogatory remarks, aimed at a minority group for the sole purpose of insulting that group. There is an appropriate way to exercise free speech, and insulting others is not it. If you want to discuss a controversial issue, than do it in an intellectual, non-insulting, civil manner. Using racist, diminutive, and prejudicial remarks isn't going to be tolerated.

If the thread had been started in an appropriate manner, it might still be going right now.

[zekrahminator]

Mmmm, 1100-1800 readers at any given moment :). In my opinion those numbers are a bit skewed. 1100-1800 readers is not exactly 1100-1800 active posting members. I'd guess that about 200 of us actually come back on a regular basis and speak our minds as contributing forum members.

[Solaris17]

Agreed - it's just a "better place to be", in terms of techno-help (and, I've poked around in about 10 over time, maybe more, since 1997 or so on the web @ least), AND people imo... coolest moderators/admins I have ever seen, just good people!


awww on behalf of the mods i thank you i hope im doing a good job im trying and let me tell you regardless of how good i may be doing im learning from the best imo.
i mean iv been
to some sites were you never even spoke to the owner of the site never mind having his sn and holding a convo with him on and off the boards cheers to you w1zz one of the reasons i think this place is so sucessful is the fact i can and other ppl can speak to the creator.

[Solaris17]

I respect the mods here and have no beef with any of them. I left a site and the folding team when I was in first place about to break a million points and had helped the team with my farm of systems. I left as they were running nazi wild on peeps. I ended up here and here I stay.


TPU FTW!!!!! 111111111 WAFFLES WAFFLES twelve twelve

ya know just for saying that i think ill target you no period? 2 day ban lol j/k abusing power is sooooo bad..and thnx for the compliments steevo.

[Steevo]

ya know just for saying that i think ill target you no period? 2 day ban lol j/k abusing power is sooooo bad..and thnx for the compliments steevo.

FU too eh Hoser!!!



:laugh:


Thermo;

That WASN'T aimed at you, or anyone. It was personal experiance. There was alot of history with me and mine and friends there. Including a personal journal of mine and some shit that I was going through. It is all gone now. And no, you weren't abusing your power, or wrong. It is YOUR call, make it and go with it.



:pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp: :pimp:

[overcast]

awww on behalf of the mods i thank you i hope im doing a good job im trying and let me tell you regardless of how good i may be doing im learning from the best imo.
i mean iv been
to some sites were you never even spoke to the owner of the site never mind having his sn and holding a convo with him on and off the boards cheers to you w1zz one of the reasons i think this place is so sucessful is the fact i can and other ppl can speak to the creator.
Those sites are MASSIVE that's why. W1zzard is certainly not going to entertain conversations with a user base ten times this. No one has time for that.

[Alec§taar]

I hate them no more or less than the Windows Vista EULA. It sucks, but it is there. It is inconsequential to me that they are homosexual or heterosexual, just the fact that it is flaunted in most.

That's true... look @ the 'bright-side' of gay dudes: They're NOT trying to 'outcompete' (or shaft you stabbing you in the back via b.s. tales told to the women) you for women! HECK, some of them will HELP you score chicks in fact, if they know you're "straight" because most times they'll leave you alone (not 'hit on you' lol) IF they know you are not gay... they ARE cool like that, on both accounts I have found!

And I do know some, and have worked with one.

I had a GOOD buddy of mine turn up gay that I knew in highschool, & used to hang around with... he had girls "hanging off his undershorts" but never 'took advantage' & I figured he was a virgin or something, but I was wrong - years later, while waiting in a shopping mall around my college for my then g/f to show up, I ran into him & during conversation I asked "How are the women treating you?" & then, he told me... I never knew, & yes, it was a shock.

LOL, I asked him "You never tried anything w/ me: Why is that, lol?" He said "Because you would have beaten me up probably lol" (I wouldn't have)... I was actually insulted, lol, believe it or not, that he never tried to hit on me, hehe!

Anyhow, that didn't make him any less of a person to me - heck, while I trained for sports in highschool I used to EXTENSIVELY use long-distance biking to do so, & he was the ONLY person that would do that with me (take 30-50 mile long bike rides to diff. towns exploring & using it as a workout), & was a GOOD pal, whom I could trust (lol, especially now, even around women I date, lol).

I simply disagree with their choice of lifestyle, as they probably disagree with mine.

I do as well, but it is the way it is... sometimes, some really "flaming" queer dudes sort of 'creep me out', but as long as they 'leave me be', it's cool. They can't help it.

I found that out one day while I was in Atlanta Georgia (big gay population there, they call it the "San Francisco of the South" in fact) in the PeachTree st. area (big party area & business too) & while drunk (yes, I do that occasionally, lol) I 'stumbled into' the gay district (I was new in town, working nearby, & figured if I got TOO smashed on Friday nite, I could go to the office, take the elevator & use my ID card to do the security & crash in my office & do some work early Sat. A.M. too).

I was in this one bar, didn't realize it was a 'gay bar', until 2 dudes next to me having a drink started kissing one another... I was like "whoa!" & then, I asked one of them this question:

"Hey man - what is it that you see in another man's hairy a$$?"

(The bartender put his hand over his mouth, laffing, but said "My man, down in this part of town? That can get you hurt, watch it!" & I was like "Man, it's an HONEST question!" so, they left me be, but answered too)

The gay dude said "Well, why do you like women?"

I said "I was born that way I suppose!"

He said "Same here, but w/ guys!"

So, since then? I have NEVER wondered why they are, the way they are. I don't particularly care, as long as they don't try anything 'phunny' w/ me!

I didn't start it to get a flame war going. But it is always homosexuality that takes the news, and it is absurd. Where are the news articles about how a "straight" man was made fun of and the provocateur had to undergo therapy to over come his situation. There isn't.

Well, they tend to be (many of them, not all) more like women are imo... in fact, my g/f's over time agreed w/ me on 1 account - they are MORE WOMEN, than women are!

It is the extra portion of rights and boohoo attitude that I disagree with.

Totally - but, the 'squeaky wheel' often does get the grease... they're just trying to protect themselves.

BUT, making a guy have to go to some b.s. that makes him look like a psycho (like anger mgt. stuff & this thing can imo), is wrong...

FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS STILL ALLOWED IN THE U.S.A. LAST I KNEW OF!

(BUT, by the same token, being cool to others & TRYING @ least to understand their viewpoint is the counterpoint here... some folks can't handle being 'busted on' publicly, or having their 'secret life' exposed. Some gay dudes DO try to hide it, & the very fact they do says much to me... society doesn't tolerate it well!)

Still, gay people have a right to live too, & in peace imo.

Heck, again: Some of the MOST trustworthy & good friends I have had turned up gay. One I mention above, & another I worked with... he was a GOOD guy, & programmed on the As/400 midrange side, while I worked on the PC side @ a large company I was with in Atlanta 1995-1997. He would test my work on the PC (good thing to have a mainframe/midrange guy do that) & I would in turn do the same to his As/400 work (he felt as I did, take a guy from another kind of puter & use him to test the work on the midrange).

He was also a smart & cool person ontop of being a great coder. He NEVER once tried to 'hit on me' either... He knew I was straight.

In fact, the ONLY way I found out was from a guy that sat next to me (who was cool too) & asked me "Why do you hang out w/ him? He's gay you know!" I was like "No way..." but the 'southern accent' folks down there have hid it from me... I couldn't tell by the "lilt in his voice" he was gay in fact. I didn't care, I still kept him as a work buddy.

So please don't insinuate that I have a burning hatred and death wish to all who choose a different lifestyle.

I never thought you were busting on any group, but more the fact the guy who ribbed on the gay people got sentenced to 'psychoanalysis' type stuff... that IS wrong imo as well.

It's just words... but, admittedly, sometimes? Words & rumor CAN affect things postively OR adversely... heck, look @ the stockmarket!

Rumors can turn it 1 way, or the other, easily... part of why spammers are turning to doing stock tips via email rampantly lately. It's said they can "pump" a stock up to 5% gain & profit by it, JUST USING RUMORS via email!

"THE PEN IS MIGHTIER THAN THE SWORD" (or, can be in some cases)

APK

P.S.=> I think Thermo was just trying to "put out a fire" before it could start here is all, by stomping your post... that's all!

Have I 'busted on' gay dudes? YES... one in particular from arstechnica before, & that was ONLY because he did to me first, & kept it up on other forums... had to 'school him' a few ways (tech points, & other things) and did bug him about being gay (he was cutting me down on other things too, so tit for tat)... I am NOT above defending myself, kind-for-kind: When in ROME? Do as the romans do, is my policy... apk

[overcast]

I'd love to know the refresh rate on the active users list. By default user activity is set to 15 minutes in Vbulletin. By increasing the refresh rate you can easily make it appear that your forum is heavily populated, even though users have not been active for most of it. 1500 users constantly is a very significant amount of traffic. Unless most of these users are just reading, the amount of posts per minute/hour doesn't see reflective of it. At quick glance it's set at at least 30mins.

[Steevo]

Active users list is based off unique IP addresses I believe. So it really means that in the lase XX minutes we have recieved XXXXXX number of page or resource requests from unique IP addresses.

[W1zzard]

I'd love to know the refresh rate on the active users list. By default user activity is set to 15 minutes in Vbulletin. By increasing the refresh rate you can easily make it appear that your forum is heavily populated, even though users have not been active for most of it. 1500 users constantly is a very significant amount of traffic. Unless most of these users are just reading, the amount of posts per minute/hour doesn't see reflective of it. At quick glance it's set at at least 30mins.

it is set to 30 minutes

[pt]

to some sites were you never even spoke to the owner of the site never mind having his sn and holding a convo with him on and off the boards cheers to you w1zz one of the reasons i think this place is so sucessful is the fact i can and other ppl can speak to the creator.

on the other forum i go (a portuguese one) the admin is always there to help ya, everytime :)
altought it's a shop forum, and the admin is the shop owner, as soon as we post asking for a if the shop can get a new piece of hardware he's there with a answer :)
i have no complaints with w1z whatsoever too :)