Windows Vista Tech Support

[Thermopylae_480]

This thread is for aiding in the technical support of Windows Vista. Those who own Windows Vista may use this thread for the purpose of seeking aid in any problems which may arise.

As more an more users adopt the new OS undoubtedly problems will arise, and be more frequent for an extended period of time. This is a fact not speaking in regards to the quality of the product, but simply as fact, that any large scale adoption of any integral platform results in in anything from user error, to undiscovered programing errors, and other issues. The purpose of this thread is to provide a centralized place for technical exploration, and troubleshooting of any Vista related problems that may arise during the course of Vista transition.

-If you only wish to discredit Windows Vista, do so in another thread, this thread is for those seeking help, and who have most likely already purchased Windows Vista.

Hopefully this won't get much use. Good luck all! :)

[Alec§taar]

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/Results.aspx?DisplayLang=en&nr=50&startDate=3%2f6%2f2006&period=30&sortCriteria=date

:)

* I'd like to post that link, because DAILY, it posts updates for ALL of Microsoft's stuff, including the LOAD of updates for VISTA that appeared on 01/29/2007 onwards (& even a few before that, but you have to look)...

APK

P.S.=> It orders downloads for MS stuff by OS/app type involved, & CHRONOLOGICALLY, so you load them, in the right order & what-not... convenient! apk

[tigger]

i hope this aint the wrong place to put this,but this seems an appropriate place.

read this-
http://www.tweakvista.com/article39075.aspx

main site for vista,very informative-

http://www.tweakvista.com/

sorry just found this about dx10 and vista/xp

Q/I reinstalled DirectX 9.0c and now I am wondering if, when a DX10 compatible
game comes out, will I be able to install DX10 again even though I have 9.0c
installed.
A/Yes, you will. You still have DX10 installed, but you also have the components from 9.0c that the games need.

More correctly: Windows Vista includes a DirectX runtime that supports
Direct3D 9.0c, Direct3D9Ex, and Direct3D 10, as well as emulating older
versions of Direct3D. The game's copy of D3DX9 is needed, but everything
else is already there.

Read "Graphics APIs in Windows Vista"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb173477.aspx and check out the
latest DirectX FAQ http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb219721.aspx

Q: Will DirectX 10 be available for Windows XP?

A: No. Windows Vista, which has DirectX 10, includes an updated DirectX
runtime based on the runtime in Windows XP SP2 (DirectX 9.0c) with changes
to work with the new Windows Display Driver Model (WDDM) and the new audio
driver stack, and with other updates in the operating system. In addition to
Direct3D 9, Windows Vista supports two new interfaces when the correct video
hardware and drivers are present: Direct3D9Ex and Direct3D10.
Since these new interfaces rely on the WDDM technology, they will never be
available on earlier versions of Windows. All the other changes made to
DirectX technologies for Windows Vista are also specific to the new version
of Windows. The name DirectX 10 is misleading in that many technologies
shipping in the DirectX SDK (XACT, XINPUT, D3DX) are not encompassed by this
version number. So, referring to the version number of the DirectX runtime
as a whole has lost much of its meaning, even for 9.0c. The DirectX
Diagnostic Tool (DXdiag.exe) on Windows Vista does report DirectX 10, but
this really only refers to Direct3D 10.

Q: What changes were made to the DirectX runtime for Windows Vista?

A: The primary changes were to support the new Windows Display Driver Model.
For details on the new driver model, impacts on Direct3D 9, and on the two
new graphics interfaces, Direct3D 9Ex and Direct3D 10, review Graphics APIs
in Windows Vista.

DirectSound was updated to expose the capabilities of the new Windows Vista
audio driver stack, which supports multi-channel software buffers. The
legacy Direct3D Retained Mode API was completely removed from Windows Vista.
DirectPlay Voice was also removed, as well as DirectPlay's NAT Helper.

--
Chuck Walbourn
SDE, Game Technology Group

[tigger]

i found this too.forgive me if i am posting this stuff in the wrong place.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/zd/20070126/tc_zd/199653

[Thermopylae_480]

lol, everyone is scared to post. I'll change it. It just seems to me almost every Vista related thread gets turned into a flame war. That's all I wanted to prevent. :toast:

[Riceman]

I'm having an annoying issue with sound in Vista Business. After 10-20 minutes of normal audio, it starts to sound like it's coming from underwater and the problem gets progressively worse.

I know they completely changed the way audio works in Vista from XP, but shouldn't sound....work? This is onboard sound, with the latest drivers. Any ideas?

[Solaris17]

Well not sure if this goes here but it is kinda a vista problem.......how do i fix my mbr? at least i think thats the problem you see i dual booted vista and xp but now my beta key isnt active so i wipped the partition vista was on however now when i reboot it still shows the options vista or xp i choose vista and it just says files are missing....well...obviously..but i dont know how to fix this so it just streight boots any ideas?

[Batou1986]

put a xp cd in and go to recovery and type fixmbr then fixboot that should git rid of the vista bootloader

< vista guru

[mikek75]

A quick google brought this up...
(Obviously this has only been tested in the vista beta.)

You will need a Windows XP Home or Windows XP Professional CD to be able to do this.

Check that the BIOS is set so you can boot off your CD\DVD-ROM drive and put in the Windows XP CD. Restart your computer so it will boot from it.

When it comes up with text: Boot from CD.... press ENTER or any other key to boot from your Windows XP CD. It should now start scanning your hardware.

When it comes up with the blue screen, press R for Recovery Console.

It will come up with a black screen with white writing. Give it a moment to load the default US keyboard. If you are using a different type press Enter and follow the instructions.

You may have to type your Administrator Password to be able to use the Recovery Console; if prompted please do or you will not be able to continue.

Now you should be at a prompt where you should be able to type. Type in the following commands:

1. type FIXMBR and press enter
2. Press Y if asked

(fixmbr means: fix masterboot record)

3. next type: FIXBOOT and press enter
4. Press Y if asked.
5. When you can continue, restart your computer
6. Remember to take the Windows XP CD out of your drive and it should be fixed.

[Solaris17]

kk thanks guys

[tigger]

could somebody in the know;) have a look at this so maybe we can figure out what processes can be killed in vista? there is looooooooads more than on xp pro(33).

http://img.techpowerup.org/070201/processes.jpg


thanks

[DaMulta]

I remember in the beta it was wise to right click on anything and run as administrator for things to work right.

[tigger]

i just thought i'd say that it is not true about only been able to activate vista oem once.i reinstalled it today onto my raid 0 drives.i could not activate it on the internet,but it activated fine over the phone.fair enuff its a pian doing it over the phone,but it proves it can be activated more than once.

[bhaskar15]

The game explorer in Vista is a nifty improvement, but it uses ESRB Rating. Can we make it so to use other rating systems ?

[Alec§taar]

could somebody in the know;) have a look at this so maybe we can figure out what processes can be killed in vista? there is looooooooads more than on xp pro(33).

Heck - TEST IT YOURSELF MAN, using services.msc, & rebooting after services changes IF NEED BE, setting them to MANUAL if need be (rather than outright disabled), or using msconfig (if it still exists in VISTA that is) to do it for you w/ a custom startup for testing using it in lieu of services.msc!

:)

Not to be rude telling you "TEST IT YOURSELF", but, think about it:

* You COULD be the first person (here @ least) to add a sticky regarding tuning VISTA (vs. the sticky thread here for tuning Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003 in that manner)...

(After all - You probably have a DECENT handle on how & what to do in XP, & I'd wager a LOT of it applies to VISTA as well - you could use it as a 'starting point reference' & work on it from there, especially regarding new & diff. services VISTA may possess, that its predecessors/ancestors in 2000/XP/Server 2003 do NOT have!)

APK

P.S.=> THINK ABOUT IT! I'd do it myself, were I using VISTA... apk

[Alec§taar]

Another note I'd like to add, is the to manage the bootup in VISTA (especially multi-OS booting), you need to use a tool called bcdedit that VISTA provides, since VISTA no longer uses BOOT.INI

* Microsoft Reference URL for using bcdedit & questions regarding its usage + HOW IT WORKS:

http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/85cd5efe-c349-427c-b035-c2719d4af7781033.mspx

:)

APK

[Alec§taar]

Setting Up Vista Ultimate on a RAID Array

http://legitreviews.com/article/454/1/

:)

* Good one there, for folks interested in RAID usage w/ VISTA...

APK

[tigger]

i reinstalled vista today on my 2x80gb raid 0,without a glitch alex.i just told it too install on top of xp,and it works fine.

there is deffo no need for the floppy now,no f6'ing to install the raid driver like i had to with xp pro.

[Alec§taar]

i reinstalled vista today on my 2x80gb raid 0,without a glitch alex.i just told it too install on top of xp,and it works fine.

Cool - I just put up that URL above about using RAID w/ VISTA for others' referenece if needed is all... just in case, so they have a "template/guide" of SOMEKIND, @ least, if needed.

there is deffo no need for the floppy now,no f6'ing to install the raid driver like i had to with xp pro.

Yea, this I was aware of & pointed it out in another thread here recently in fact... good thing by ALL means imo!

APK

P.S.=> Tigger69 - DO consider doing a "VISTA SERVICES TUNING GUIDE" since you DO have access to VISTA's final model, hands-on... seriously! apk

[Alec§taar]

ReadyBoost Compatibility - USB and other flash memory devices

http://www.grantgibson.co.uk/misc/readyboost/

:)

* That's a list of "Ready Boost" compatible USB FlashMemory compatible thumbdrives, that are certified to work w/ VISTA's "SuperFetch" diskdrive caching abilities...

APK

[AthlonX2]

anyone know why vista's disk defragmenter doesnt show you how bad your drives are fragmented? and is there a way to have it show the drives fragmentation?


APK-

what do you think of readyboost? i have a lexar jd mercury 1gb,thought about using it for ready boost,but would that actually speed up vista?

[AthlonX2]

i have a slight problem with vista...trying to play tiger woods online it crashes because of internet explorer 7...tried googling the problem nothing comes up..i get some sort of script error,i attached a photo of my error:D

http://img.techpowerup.org/070202/error.jpg

[tigger]

i have put another gb of 533 ddr2 in my machine(for testing) and set it at stock(coz the 533 wont oc) and the differance is amazing.2142 is MUCH better,and in my experience now,i would say a decnt spec machine with 2gb of ram will show no differance in gaming performance than a similar xp machine.

all my games run sweet.

[Alec§taar]

anyone know why vista's disk defragmenter doesnt show you how bad your drives are fragmented? and is there a way to have it show the drives fragmentation?

No, because from what I understand of it, & only anecdotally (I don't use VISTA yet), that's how it is now... lol, "dumbed-down" a bit TOO much, imo, in that the app got dumber if anything - progress reports are excellent for disk I/O operations imo, of any kind, & in an app of that type.

I wonder - do the ExecSoft &/or Raxco PerfectDisk (& other 3rd party disk defragmentors' programs) work on VISTA yet?

APK-
what do you think of readyboost? i have a lexar jd mercury 1gb,thought about using it for ready boost,but would that actually speed up vista?

Don't use VISTA myself, but... if you look in my signature, I use something a BIT (sort of in how I apply it) like how its supposed to work, using RAM as my diskdrives, via an SSD... apk

[mysticjon]

could somebody in the know;) have a look at this so maybe we can figure out what processes can be killed in vista? there is looooooooads more than on xp pro(33).

http://img.techpowerup.org/070201/processes.jpg


thanks

yeah u dont need that trustedinstall thingy, u cna kill like the sidebar if u dont use it or need it, but other than that, most of the things running, is necessary, u cna always do the run-msconfig.exe and select/deselctecd, which stuff u wnat or dont wnat to run

[Jimmy 2004]

Here are the processes I have running:

http://img.techpowerup.org/070204/vista processes.jpg

If you want I can post a list of how my services are setup, but obviously that varies depending on what you need.

Edit: that includes my antivirus and Logitech Setpoint - everything is working fine and pretty quick

[tigger]

you've got loads less than mine jimmy.

can you post how they are setup please? it will give me a few pointers.have you disabled some then? i 'ave'nt got a clue in vista as to what HAS to be running or not.thx:D

[Jimmy 2004]

you've got loads less than mine jimmy.

can you post how they are setup please? it will give me a few pointers.have you disabled some then? i 'ave'nt got a clue in vista as to what HAS to be running or not.thx:D

Just writing up what I've done so far - should upload it by this evening.

Could I ask a favour from you? Would someone who has Vista installed be able to export the registry key "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CURRENTCONTROLSET\SERVIC ES\WSCSVC" and upload it to techPowerUp!?

It's related to Windows Security Center (which I don't use) but I have deleted it and although it's no longer too important to me I think I should have disabled it another way (I disabled the service but it kept on giving me messages so I got rid of that). Don't worry too much if you can't, but it would be useful. :toast:

[tigger]

there ya go m8.

[Jimmy 2004]

there ya go m8.

Cheers, tigger, worked great :toast:

I'll post the info about how my services are setup in a bit, quite a bit to write about though - there are so many :ohwell:

[tigger]

np m8:D

[Jimmy 2004]

np m8:D

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=254128#post254128

A tweaks thread for Vista.

Only has the services at the moment - be careful if you use it because it is all still new to be.

[BXtreme]

xcuse me, i'm having a problem with winrar and Vista. when I right-click and click "extract to.."
then it doesn't do anything !! I have to open the file, then the allow or cancel confirmations and then clicking extract. this totally bloats the shell extension functions of winrar.

[tigger]

disable the uac.i have uac disabled and winrar works fine.it is 3.42 corp edition iam using btw.

[BXtreme]

disable the uac.i have uac disabled and winrar works fine.it is 3.42 corp edition iam using btw.

er, whats the uac ? i.e full form ?

[tigger]

http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsVista/en/library/0d75f774-8514-4c9e-ac08-4c21f5c6c2d91033.mspx?mfr=true

user account control.

[BXtreme]

when I type secpol.msc, it says does'nt exist !

[tigger]

msconfig,tools,disable uac.

[BXtreme]

msconfig,tools,disable uac.

done, after a reboot..

[ComradeRobbins]

The two biggest problems I've had is my sound card stopped working, but a quick re-install of the drivers fixed that. I'm also having trouble with imbedded WMA videos loading in Firefox, because it is trying to use Windows Media Player 10, rather than 11. That's not a big problem either, I just haven't got around to fixing it. Does anyone else have an extrememly long log off and shut down time though?

[Alec§taar]

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=254128#post254128

A tweaks thread for Vista.

Only has the services at the moment - be careful if you use it because it is all still new to be.

Ahhh, cool... yea, you DID startup doing a "services tuning guide" testing thread here, & that's a GOOD PLACE TO START OUT FROM, doing this type of 'madness-N-lunacy', but, well worth it.

I was AMAZED @ the amount of services VISTA runs, by default, shown here & in that other URL thread... VISTA, by default, runs even MORE services than Windows Server 2003 (default workstation/pro setup that is, before adding server-class apps like IIS to it) has by default... which is quite a lot more than XP has in fact.

It'll take you some time, but it will be worth doing/testing for services, & then, were I you? I would start trying the 'hacks/tweaks' noted in the System Optimization thread here that work for 2000/XP/Server 2003.

(Tweak/tune/test for speed @ first, & MAYBE, for registry related security hacks as well - there ARE those, such as disabling DCOM/COM+ remote access for instance (just one of MANY possible mind you for added security)).

I would wager, again as I said in that thread above iirc, that MOST of what works for 2000/XP/Server 2003, registry hacks-wise for speed (such as numerous memory/thread/cpu based ones) AND security WILL work for VISTA - makes sense, if you think about it:

It's "core code" IS based off of Windows Server 2003...

In fact, if/when you ever get to THAT stage (past just services tuning)? If you want some .reg files that have ALL of what I personally do to a 2000/XP/Server 2003 rig?? Let me know... there are around 20 .reg files, FULLY INTERNALLY DOCUMENTED on each setting as to what they do, w/ supporting URL's from Microsoft inside them to validate the descriptions I used!

Took me around 1 year to build those .reg files like that, but they are awesome, save time, & fully internally documented (best part).

LET ME KNOW.

APK

P.S.=> Honestly: Were I running VISTA now, I would join you guys in testing this stuff & add a TON of things that either work, or not, from the "System Optimization Thread" here & the specific parts I added to it... which DO go a great deal above & beyond what that thread lists, because some of it is PURE .reg file hacking stuff, for speed & security, that most folks do NOT get into... but, they work!

(& only reason I have not bought VISTA yet is that I had to repair the furnace here because it broke (not all of it, it is 'component based' like PC's &/or cars are, like most stuff today is) in part (thermocouple & pilot assembly) & ran me $100 ONLY, thank God, but that is ENOUGH to 'upset my budget & savings schedule plan' I use, to make me 'hold off' still... plus, I have to admit:

I do NOT like the "DRM" b.s. &/or OpenGL being 'phased out' to do API call translation to DirectX 10 as it does, slowing OpenGL games down (I only play IDSoftware games really, & they are OpenGL) too much, & making them look "phunny"... this honestly DOES bother me - because it makes NO sense to 'cripple' parts of a NEW OS, vs. its earlier predecessors. That is 'downgrading' it imo.

Plus, I like Windows Server 2003, a LOT!

However, I am ITCHING to try VISTA...

In fact, I just got off the phone w/ a buddy who has it on a gateway laptop he JUST got today (ATI video integrated, & CoreDuo CPU by INTEL) & he likes it a lot... & so did my other buddy who's house he was @, & they have similar tastes to mine, so it's got me 'itching to try VISTA', just listening to them talk about it w/ me on the horn as we spoke, they were BOTH pretty "enthusiastic' (one who owns laptop is typical end-user, & buddy who's place he was at is more of a "power-user")... apk

[BXtreme]

The two biggest problems I've had is my sound card stopped working, but a quick re-install of the drivers fixed that. I'm also having trouble with imbedded WMA videos loading in Firefox, because it is trying to use Windows Media Player 10, rather than 11. That's not a big problem either, I just haven't got around to fixing it. Does anyone else have an extrememly long log off and shut down time though?

nope, mine boots fast.

[tigger]

@jimmy,i have discovered a problem.

like on xp pro,i changed the location of my documents by right clicking the my docs on the start menu,and clicking properties/move.

but vista has a problem with that and some times i could'nt get to my docs properlie or some progs cant find it.

so i have kinda moved it back.now the button for it on the start menu no longer works.if i click it,it does nothing and if i right click it,the options are a bit screwed up-

http://img.techpowerup.org/070209/Untitled.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/070209/Untitled3.jpg

also,in this folder,all the folders in it are not hidden,the documents folder is hidden,but i cant un hide it.how do i unhide it?-
http://img.techpowerup.org/070209/Untitled2.jpg
the only way i have access to the docs folder is with a shortcut.

were is the registry place for them buttons on the start menu? can i edit the reg to point the button back to the documents folder at-c:\users\ti66er\documents?

i hope you can help jim.:D

[simsim44]

I have a question when i try and enable Crossfire, in Vista's, it does not reconize the display device

[Jimmy 2004]

I have a question when i try and enable Crossfire, in Vista's, it does not reconize the display device

Tried re-installing the drivers?


Tigger, I'll take a look and see what I can find out and then get back to you. I had a similar type of problem in XP - the problem is there are few different places that Windows seems to store the info and you'll need to change the right one otherwise it will revert back to what it was :wtf:

[Alec§taar]

"As the beakers bubble, & the 'jacob's ladders' send their bolts of lightning thru the cobwebbed laboratory..."

http://www.pendotech.com/images/mad_scientist.gif

:)

(THE 'MAD SCIENTISTS' @ TECHPOWERUP.COM FORUMS ARE HARD @ WORK TUNING/TWEAKING VISTA!)

* LOL!

APK

P.S.=> Bit of "nerdy humor" there for your day today folks... apk

[Alec§taar]

APK-

what do you think of readyboost? i have a lexar jd mercury 1gb,thought about using it for ready boost,but would that actually speed up vista?

Well, like I said before? I don't use VISTA (yet) but, since you asked this question??

Here is some feedback on it:

Windows ReadyBoost Put To The Test For Gaming

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/455/1/

:)

* That ought to 'shed some light' on this NEW technology present in VISTA!

APK

P.S.=> Especially for folks here, as I have noted that MOST of you tend to stress the gaming performance aspect of things... so, that said? I figure this would interest the lot of you... & answer your question Athlon! Enjoy the read! apk

[Jimmy 2004]

ReadyBoost is a nice idea if you have old (and fairly quick) flash drives that you don't use, but it won't really make much difference on a system with 1GB of ram or more, maybe slightly quicker application loading times. I don't bother to use it - superfetching seems to do a slightly better job than XP's prefetching, I think it makes Vista more responsive than XP is at loading certain things.

I think Vista must be good at freeing up ram when it's needed too - my 3Dmark05 score is more or less the same in Vista and XP despite Vista appearing as a resource hog using as much as 50% of the ram even with loads of services disabled.

[Alec§taar]

I think Vista must be good at freeing up ram when it's needed too - my 3Dmark05 score is more or less the same in Vista and XP despite Vista appearing as a resource hog using as much as 50% of the ram even with loads of services disabled.

One word for that, imo & on a guess: Caching...

:)

* My guess is that has altered to eat up as much free RAM as is possible... This train-of-thought seems to be the trend out there today for ALL applications, in OS + caching design.

Trust me, I know, from having a hell of a debate w/ Dr. Mark Russinovich & many arstechnica people @ Windows IT Pro magazine forums from 2003, up to today!

And, yet again, & that bunch from Arstechnica & "the good doctor" were unable to disprove my list of 15 points, many dealing in cache effectiveness or not, & w/ server class apps like Exchange Server & IBM DB/2 which can have the caching performed by the OS, affect them adversely...

See, once more/recently, some folks there put up comments on it again, so I replied in kind.

(DB/2 &-or Exchange do BETTER w/ free & contiguous unfragmented RAM, period, & straight from both oem horses' mouths @ MS & IBM w/ proofs from them on that note!)

Hey - I only 'attacked' when I was attacked, & made a simple challenge - disprove the 15 points I put up, OR shut up.

ANYHOW/ANYWAYS:

So, even freeing up RAM by tuning services (cutting off ones you DON'T need) will be 'negated' by this, but that's not so bad!

Hey - you STILL save CPU cycles & other forms of I/O those services were performing & freeing them up for what you DO use!

(I also recall that VISTA has some differences in it as well regarding how effectively it utilizes the L1-L2-L3 cache levels, depending on the mobo & CPU setup present, etc. but I don't have the link illustrating/stating that immediately available... I will try to find it though!)

APK

P.S.=> Like that photo above Jimmy2004? LOL, w/ this thread, it's YOU... apk

[mandelore]

OMG im not very chuffed, got Vista ultimate installed thismorning, Oblivion works fine, but Quake4 and Prey are a no no. I just get a black screen eeeeek. :(.... any1 had any luck getting either of these, or any other opengl game to work for that matter, i know opengl support in vista sux, but i thought the new ati drivers had some sort of enhanced support for opengl. Damnit, fair enuff i have xp in dual boot, but seriously, what good is another os when u require 2 to run what u had b4. Not bashing vista, since it looks nice and all, but GRRRR.... also, mozilla keeps vibrating up and down like its on god knows what...

[tigger]

try right clicking/compatability/run as admin on the shortcuts.

[mandelore]

Nah, works with NVIDIA cards dont work with ATI, but.. i have discovered its the ati drivers, they cocked up a bit, and are working on a fix **sigh of relief, at least i know they will work in due time :)

[Lt_JWS]

Dont know if this would the the right place or not.... But has anyone else got Quicken Basic 2006 to work... it half way works on mine, i've tried compatibility mode, and running as an admin... any help???

[Alec§taar]

See my subject-line/title above, & guess what?

I LIKE IT!

:)

I spent some time today w/ a pal over @ BEST BUY on some laptops & even a touch-screen HP desktop unit running it... I was pretty impressed actually!

I ran consoles/terminals/DOS sessions just fine, messed about in Control Panel, took a look @ Windows Mail, Explorer.exe, the new "sidebar", Media Center features, Norton Security (came on them all), Ran the "3dText" screensaver (to get SOME idea of what 3d-display API's perform like on it, no games were on it, could not test), & OF COURSE?

I did the "Windows Key" + TAB feature, for the uniquelly VISTA way of passing thru & visually listing running apps in its inimitable style of 'tilted tiled windows', & it's neat how it will keep circulating thru them!

:)

* I wish I could have tested more & better, but overall? I like it... WILL I BUY IT? Probably @ some point, most likely.

APK

P.S.=> I never saw or had "UAC" get into my face either... but, then again, it was NOT my system to TRULY mess about in either... still, was pretty neat! apk

[Lt_JWS]

Anyone having any luck running apps like TAT, Core Temp, RivaTuner, Ntune.... in 64bit Vista???? Here are the error i get, i've tried running as admin, and compatibility mode..

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1990/error1jq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Alec§taar]

Update for Windows Vista (KB929451)

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c585e831-41fd-40bd-8923-e542eb7a1b8a&DisplayLang=en

:)

* Have @ it VISTA users...

APK

[Alec§taar]

See my subject-line/title-line above for this reply, & the attached file below:

:)

* A GOOD SOLID TECHNICAL READ ABOUT TCP/IP NETWORKING IMPROVEMENTS IN VISTA IS INSIDE THE ATTACHED ZIPFILE & VERY CURRENT (as of the past 2-3 days now)!

It even clues you into 'tweaks' you can apply!

E.G.-> Such as HOW TO TURN OFF the default IPv6 dual layered stack (hey - if you don't use it? Turn it off, as it may save resources etc.)

APK

P.S.=> She's 'zipped' in .zip format by WinRar, so if the native unzip utility in Windows asks for a password? Use WinRar instead... apk

[acousticlemur]

i am having a hell of a time trying to network our computers....i can see the other computers on the network but it asks for a login and password to connect to them. i have no idea what is going on. we all have shared the folders we want to share, just cant access them from the network. any ideas?

[acousticlemur]

yeah nevermind, there was a check box for password required for sharing folders. all is well now.! woo hoo

[Alec§taar]

YES, it is... see here, vs. XP by default AND BY FAR:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=277810#post277810

:)

* Nice to see, unpatched even... moreso after no doubt! 4.32 of 10 possible... awesome, & THAT IS UNPATCHED, no less!

APK

P.S.=> BxTreme using VISTA tested UNPATCHED no less, comes right up on my 5/10 score on BELARC ADVISOR (after a fully patched Windows Server 2003 & fully tweaked/tuned by myself for BOTH performance & security as well)... excellent post by him, illustrating it for us all to see... apk

[Glitched System]

System Cannot Find Systempropertiesremote.exe.


Windows Vista Business
32bit.



Any idears where I can get this file?

[Judas]

Anyone having any luck running apps like TAT, Core Temp, RivaTuner, Ntune.... in 64bit Vista???? Here are the error i get, i've tried running as admin, and compatibility mode..

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1990/error1jq7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

you need to turn off digital driver signing ,then they should work.

Boot into safe mode

F5 then F8, then turn off driver signing

[kwchang007]

i have vista home premium and there seems to be no hdd temperature monitoring program that will run right. after i install it'll detect the hdd but after a reboot there's no more detection. and if someone knew how to make notebook hardware control to work that'd be even better, thanks.

[drafter1959]

I just bought a new notebook with Vista. This is the first time I've come in contact with

this operating system. My problem is this, alot of the time when I go to open a file, or

unzip a compressed file no matter what unzipper I use (winrar,winzip,etc) I get this error

that shuts down explorer which in turn closes all the files I have open. It happens ALOT!!

The error reads as follows: " Windows explorer has stopped working. Windows can check

online for a solution and try to restart the program." Then gives these two options.

" Check online for a solution and restart the program." or " Restart the program." I'm to

the point of tossing this thing. If anyone else has this problem with a fix I'd be ever

so grateful!! Thank-You. Drafter

[erocker]

Here's my problem, when I get a menu to come up in Vista and the screen is supposed to darken desktop background gets all garbled with magenta, and cyan colors instead. The menu pop-up works fine. Any suggestions?

[Oliver_FF]

anyone know how to add games to the "Games" menu thing in Vista - just been installing some golden oldies and some of them aren't appearing in the list :(

[One2Fight4]

when I turn on my computer with windows vista home premium, its goes all the way to the boot screen then locks up. After about 20+ more restarts it works fine, why?

[Wile E]

I had a similar problem, OneFight. It would hang on the Crcdisk.sys driver, which I assume crc checks your whole drive. If you let it run, it will eventually boot(after like a 1/2hour. lol) I ended up finding a program that let me disable the boot time disk check. I think it was called Vista Manager.

[One2Fight4]

I have the software but where do i go to do it?

[PVTCaboose1337]

I got a problem: (just got vista)
When I run the Adobe Reader 8 installer, I get this:

http://img.techpowerup.org/070506/Capture001496.jpg

[Wile E]

You can try to take ownership of the folder in question(actually, one of the first things I do when I install Vista, is take ownership of the whole Vista partition), or you can do what I did, download Foxit PDF Reader 2. It's much lighter weight and faster.

[randomperson21]

heh i had that adobe problem too. heres how to fix it

1) run the installer, have it extract all the files
2)when you get to that error dialogue, leave it up
3) navigate to C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\LocalLow
4) look for a folder called Netopsystems
5) open it, copy the contents to somewhere else
6) close the error dialogue. this will delete the temp files
7) there should be a setup.exe or setup.msi somewhere in the files you copied. right click that, run it as administrator.

you should be good from there, if i recall correctly.

[Wile E]

Ahh, that explains why I never got errors like that. I always log on as an admin, and I always disable the secondary logon service. Thanx random.

[PVTCaboose1337]

Problem is, it never gets there, but now I'm using Foxit which is just as good.

[PVTCaboose1337]

K next question, how do I do that 3d window flippy thing?

[randomperson21]

windows key+ tab

[PVTCaboose1337]

Damn thats easy... thanks.

[PVTCaboose1337]

I still prefer Fiesty Fawn to this but...

http://img.techpowerup.org/070507/Capture031.jpg

[Chewy]

ok I have Vista installed and ready on my system.. but I'm having a problem partitioning...

When I go to shrink my c:\drive in Control Panel/System and Matinance/, down under Administative tools theres create and format hard disk partitions.. ok well when I go to do this it will only let me shrink my C:\drive to like half my volume.. thats like 300 gigs for c:\ left.. anyone know how I can hake my c:\ 60 gigs..

I want 60 for os, 120 games, rest for storage movies/music. I have 596Gb's in windows.

[Wile E]

Can you shrink it, boot back into Vista after it completes the operation, then shrink it again?

[Chewy]

I'll have to give that a try.. I thought about trying this but I dont have to much time lately to mess around :P wonder how long it will take to shrink hummz lol well I'll do it tonight I guess.

That should work eh :)

Edit: it didnt work, I shrunk it to 340gb and it wont shrink anymore.. rebooted elc :S any more ideas:P I'll google I guess too, if I find anything i'll post here.

[Chewy]

heres what I found on microsofts site...

"During setup, you only need to create and size the partition on which you plan to install Windows Vista. After Windows Vista is installed, you can use the Disk Management snap-in to make changes or create new partitions on your hard disk."

So I guess I should of just made my raid size like 60gigs.. than expanded it after?!? but raid is done with bios not OS so if bios says 60gigs tha in OS you should only see 60gigs :S

Or I guess its when you reach that point in installing Vista where it asked me for driver for my raid array.. hummz I dont think I'll be reformatting anytime to soon though lol, I have other things I have to get done.

[Wile E]

What about something like Acronis Disk Director Suite?

[Chewy]

I LOVE YOU, and big kisses... lol just kidding, but thanks a million man. I set up my hards so friggin sweet with that program... Local Disk (C:) 66GB, Games (G:) 127GB and Storage (S:) 404GB.. my HD has been oficially Pimp'd and ready to install games :D.

[Boneface]

Ok well i dont know if this belongs in here or not if not could someone move it to the right topic. Anyway i m running vista home premium and an 8800gts 320. Now i know with xp i was able to get everything up to a resoultion of 1280x1024, but with vista i can get above 1024x768 and thats also the games. I wanted to know if anyone esle has had this problem and if they were able to fix it and how they did it. And im now having a problem with tryingto bring up Control panel. If i click on it an address bar pops up at the top of the screen and one on the bottom that says Windows Explorer. This happens for a split second thats all but it does that everytime i try to bring up the control panel. Any help would be greatly appreciated


Thanks Boneface

[Ketxxx]

I would put money on it being the VC driver. nVidia Vista drivers are still absolutely horrible.

[tigger]

hello guys,i have aquired an errant file on my control panel,i guess something added it and nvr removed it on uninstall.how do i get rid of it?

if i try to open it,it say it has no program assiated with it,and it does nothing.

http://img.techpowerup.org/070518/error.jpg

could i use the registry to get rid of it,but were is that list in the registry?

thx for any help :D

[HellasVagabond]

Guys im having ALOT of Errors while trying to run either Driver SETUP files or GAME SETUP Files...Any ideas ??? At this rate i wont be able to install any games...I managed to install drivers manually however.

[randomperson21]

some games don't work so hot yet in vista. find the specific game you're having trouble with, google it and see if theres any fixes for it. also, try running the installer as an administrator.

[Oliver_FF]

Guys im having ALOT of Errors while trying to run either Driver SETUP files or GAME SETUP Files...Any ideas ??? At this rate i wont be able to install any games...I managed to install drivers manually however.

are you 100% sure the drivers are for Vista and not XP?

if you right click on a .exe file and go to the properties panel you can set a compatibility mode, this tends to fix most problems (if any) with games...

[HellasVagabond]

it was DEPs fault !!!
Just disabled it and windows fly !!! :)

[Wile E]

it was DEPs fault !!!
Just disabled it and windows fly !!! :)
Disabling System Restore gives a pretty big performance jump as well.

[HellasVagabond]

My friend the system restore tweak applies for years now and i always run windows without it and with several other enchancements. However DEP has nothing to do with running faster...It just protects the system from not running applications that it thinks can harm the system thus it stopped me from running the majority of setups. Disabling it makes things easier.

Anyways guys i have a USB stick which aint ReadyBoost compatible, however i used a workaround hack to make it compatible but now windows dont see the empty space. Specifically its a 1gb OCZ Rally drive and i have formatted it in both NTFS and FAT32 and although in properties the empty space is 991mb the ReadyBoost thingie says it cant even find 235mbs FREE !!!!! Any ideas ?

[Solaris17]

i have a problem guys well when i was dual booting it worked fine but after i clean installed vista my pics dont come up as thumb nails like instead of being able to see a little tile of your pics when selecting a background or seeing them when you go into my pictures all i see is a generic fake little ocean? i mean the pics etc still work...but i cant see them does anyone know how to fix this?

wew nvm i found it its under folder options or you can go into veiw in any window and click folder options "veiw tab" and uncheck always show icons never thumbnails...bam worked yay!!

[Solaris17]

so does anyone know the deal with ati tool? i mean it wont work gives me some error now i tried rebooting uninstalling then reinstalling no go so then i uninstalled rebooted adn re installed all good but then i reboot and it wont work again WTF? is their any way to do it? without needing to reinstall every time?

[Wile E]

Are you using 64bit?

Off Topic: I have that board, too.

[Solaris17]

no im not running 64 bit its only 32 but it still wont do it im getting so mad WTF?

[Wile E]

Hmmm, I didn't have that issue in 32bit. Only 64bit. Sorry Solaris, I'm of no help. Perhaps try the ATI Tray Tools beta instead? http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=206455

[shoe16]

is there a way to stop it from asking you for permission when your run programs and stuff. its really annoying...

[Oliver_FF]

is there a way to stop it from asking you for permission when your run programs and stuff. its really annoying...

Yeah there is, in the control panel, head towards the system options and just keep digging, you'll eventually find an option to disable all the popups asking for permission.

[Jimmy 2004]

is there a way to stop it from asking you for permission when your run programs and stuff. its really annoying...

Open a “Run...” box (press the Windows key + r ), type MSCONFIG, go to the “Tools” tab and then select and launch “Disable UAC.”

Should sort it for you without trying to find it in the control panel. Check out the Vista guide in my sig for more tips and tweaks. :)

[Solaris17]

my computer used to work fine but i have 2 major problems i need help on somewhat immediately....

1. when i try to install updates it says configuring updates and then boots up fine but then it says it needs to install them again i look at the list and its the exact same ones WTF? but it doesnt say it failed.......


2. this juswt happened recently my computer wont reboot or shutdown anymore it goes into some kind of power standby it goes through all the screens and then it makes the power down clicketc...hard drives shutting down my video disspears but my computer is still on it just sits their and idles....no actual power down same with rebooting it wont come back from that "state" any ideas? iv alreadyt tried changing the setting then looking ion the bios power options no go all the same it just randomely did it.

[Wile E]

For the shutdown restart issue- Did you recently add/change/update any software. Kaspersky did that to me at one point in time. I uninstalled and reinstalled it, and the problem disappeared

[Solaris17]

no iv only installed oblivion it wont properly shutdown at all iv even tried defaulting the power options etc. no go wtf?

[Zeratul_uy]

Hi! I've installed Windows Vista 32 bit on a Celeron 1.7 with 64mb VC and a gig of Ram... Mobo is Asus P4S533-MX

My "particular" issue is that I can't install my audio drivers xD (Onboard ones) the other things that I've installed works perfectly, such as Office, MSN Messenger and other programs...
Everything works well so far, but the audio driver (the error is when installing it, it says that is not compatible with windows)

[Namslas90]

The onboard audio is ADI AD1980 6-channel CODEC, and I havn't found a Vista driver for it yet, still looking.:toast:

[Zeratul_uy]

The onboard audio is ADI AD1980 6-channel CODEC, and I havn't found a Vista driver for it yet, still looking.:toast:

Keep in mind that is 32 bit Vista, that's why I'm so confused...
Every 32bit application I've used works, excepting that damn driver :mad:

[Namslas90]

Found several links that say there is no Vista driver for that, all of them say to add a sound card.

[Zeratul_uy]

Found several links that say there is no Vista driver for that, all of them say to add a sound card.

I was afraid of that lol, then I'll suggest to buy a soundcard... Thx Brotha :toast:

[Solaris17]

if you have the driver as an .exe try running it in compatability mode it could possible work then just right click on it go to Properties>compatability tab> and select run as xp sp2 it might work then thats what i have to do on a couple of my apps and games.

[Zeratul_uy]

if you have the driver as an .exe try running it in compatability mode it could possible work then just right click on it go to Properties>compatability tab> and select run as xp sp2 it might work then thats what i have to do on a couple of my apps and games.

Damn why did I not think about that before?! You're right :D I've forgotten totally about that option!


I'll msg if it worked, Thx!



How can I download your CD?

[Zeratul_uy]

Worked!! :toast: TY very much!!

[Solaris17]

no problem as for my cd you should just wait a week i have another thats almost done completion but if you want to know just click on it and it will link you to the downloads section of tpu thats were it is.

o i c my link is outdated ill fix it but im woring on m y car ill get back to you guys.

[Zeratul_uy]

o i c my link is outdated ill fix it but im woring on m y car ill get back to you guys.

That's why I was asking about it hehe, I'm waiting for it! :D

[Solaris17]

their ya go i fixed the link and if your a litle dissapointed you need not worry the new one is out in less than a week and it will be amazing

[Solaris17]

hmmm ok i just downloaded all my updates wetc........o btw my boot ;/update install issue ios fixed i actually didnt fix it popped in my gig of ram and my new proc and it worked? anyway


you download updates they go in a folder called "softwareDistrobution" the updates install and the computer reboots..........so i find this a little bit of a tweak because i want to save space my updates folder is at 2.5GB and i want that space onlything is if i delete the updates in that folder will i need to DL them again? is that their perminent home or temp dir?

[EviLZeD]

hey i have a digital usb tv tuner its a leadtek one apparently it is vista certified and has drivers on their site i download them for my tv tuner but when i extract the file all i get is a bunch of files but i have no clue on what to do with them i also downloaded the software but it doesn't recognize the tv tuner also vista does not recognize the tv tuner

these are the files i get when i download the 64bit vista drivers from http://www.leadtek.com/eng/support/download.asp?downlineid=144&downline=WINFAST%20DTV%20DONGLE

these are the files i get no .exe files

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/7854/hmmmvo9.th.jpg (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hmmmvo9.jpg)

driver cd with the tuner dont work my guess is i have to place them somewhere in windows directory but no clue were

thanks for any help

[Solaris17]

those ones with the yelolow bands are driver files tell it to search for the drivers and browse to that folder it should install and it should work.
same with the .sys files those are driver files their basically all important but if you have to manually place them the .sys and the yellowband one s are what youll probably need to move.

[EviLZeD]

ok ill try it out thanks for the help :)

EDIT: nope :( vista doesnt recognize then wen i specify that folder it just says unable to install

[AphexDreamer]

Hello I am new to these forums, but not to Systool. I was able to run the app just fine when I was running Windows XP but when I made the move to Vista(32Bit) and I installed it and the driver, Systool would not work and would cause my computer to behave unstable. If someone can help me with this issue I would greatly appreciate it beacuse I want to overclock my AMD Athlon 64 3800+ and need to increase the voltage to it for further overclocking. Again any advice toward solving this problem or if anyone knows of anyother software that I can use to increase the voltage to my processor would be appreciated.

[Zeratul_uy]

Hello I am new to these forums, but not to Systool. I was able to run the app just fine when I was running Windows XP but when I made the move to Vista(32Bit) and I installed it and the driver, Systool would not work and would cause my computer to behave unstable. If someone can help me with this issue I would greatly appreciate it beacuse I want to overclock my AMD Athlon 64 3800+ and need to increase the voltage to it for further overclocking. Again any advice toward solving this problem or if anyone knows of anyother software that I can use to increase the voltage to my processor would be appreciated.

Tryed by the BIOS? It's the best option IMO

[hakanpersson]

Hello there forumreaders! I have a problem where I really could use your help!

I am running Vista Home Premium on my Vaio laptop. Some weeks ago I was told to test a game for my work. When installing, I had to press continue on directx9 installer in order to complete the installation.

After that several of my 3d apps are going nuts. 3DsMax 9 reverts back to dx 8.1. And when viewing DDS files my screen goes blank sometimes for a few seconds, and then saying something like "your displaydrivers recovered from internal error".
If I try to assign a dds texture in Max 8.1 it says "error creating direct 3d device".

Anyone know a solution to this? Perhaps some way to uninstall those drivers. And since there isnt any installer for dx10 I cant try to replace. I can live with it, but those errors ruins my day quite often. My comp is a sony vaio VGN-C2Z, "vista only". With a nvidia 7400(i think)go.

cheers /Håkan

[pt]

wich is the game

[AphexDreamer]

Tryed by the BIOS? It's the best option IMO

Yeah I know Man, the thing is I have an OEM computer and they have all those Overclocking setting removed thats why I Used to use Systool.

[hakanpersson]

wich is the game

One you most definatly not tried, "Paradise", we are UK publishers for it. Rather old by now I think. I also tried to download latest dx9 from microsoft too see if they were using some odd release, but its still same result.

[Zeratul_uy]

Yeah I know Man, the thing is I have an OEM computer and they have all those Overclocking setting removed thats why I Used to use Systool.

BIOS update? Already tryed? :toast:

[AphexDreamer]

BIOS update? Already tryed? :toast:

Yeah HP has an Update to thier BIOS, But it still does not allow Overclocking of any kind. It's baiscly like my BIOS Just with added AMD Processor Support.

[Solaris17]

hmmm ok i just downloaded all my updates wetc........o btw my boot ;/update install issue ios fixed i actually didnt fix it popped in my gig of ram and my new proc and it worked? anyway


you download updates they go in a folder called "softwareDistrobution" the updates install and the computer reboots..........so i find this a little bit of a tweak because i want to save space my updates folder is at 2.5GB and i want that space onlything is if i delete the updates in that folder will i need to DL them again? is that their perminent home or temp dir?


/bump

anyone?

[Zeratul_uy]

Yeah HP has an Update to thier BIOS, But it still does not allow Overclocking of any kind. It's baiscly like my BIOS Just with added AMD Processor Support.

I'll sugest to go to propeties, then look for the compatibity and switch it to "run as XP SP2", that's worked for my drivers :D


And for another tweaking program, you should google for one :D

[Zeratul_uy]

/bump

anyone?

No idea :(

[AphexDreamer]

I'll sugest to go to propeties, then look for the compatibity and switch it to "run as XP SP2", that's worked for my drivers :D


And for another tweaking program, you should google for one :D

Thanks a lot man I found CrystalCPUID it allows me to increase the voltage to my cpu in windows and thanks for that tip for Systool, I can't belive I didn't think of that.

[Zeratul_uy]

Thanks a lot man I found CrystalCPUID it allows me to increase the voltage to my cpu in windows and thanks for that tip for Systool, I can't belive I didn't think of that.

It happens mate :D glad you got rid of this issue :toast:
And btw, welcome to the TPU :D

[Solaris17]

hey guys my boot time was fine buit now its alll sorts of slow iv defragged using third party stuff cleared the prefetch cleared the temp killed apps etc on start up including services and it takes me like 4min to get to a working desktop`


obt above i mentioned the software distribution folder after updates in vista you CAN delete the contents of this folder without losing your just downloaded things i had 2gb of old updates the trick is after your updates have been installed and copnfigured delete the contents of this folder to gain some serious space.

[ex_reven]

Anyone Know how to edit Boot.ini ?

Apparently they dont have boot.ini anymore in vista. But there must be a way of editing it, I want to apply the 3Gb Switch.

[Wile E]

Try VistaBootPro (http://www.vistabootpro.org/).

Vista uses BCDEdit to make changes to boot options. It's a command line tool. VistaBootPro basically gives you a gui for it.

[ex_reven]

My Second Sata drive wont turn up in Vista :(
In bios it doesnt get picked up either...weird

[Wile E]

My Second Sata drive wont turn up in Vista :(
In bios it doesnt get picked up either...weird
Is that the one that was giving you issues? Check the cable again?

[ex_reven]

Yeah il swap the cables and see if the other drive dissapears. I might have another dodgy cable lol...man thats bad luck.

Btw with the Vista Boot PRO, how exactly do I add the entry?
I goto "Manage OS Entries" and click the "Add new OS Entry" checkbox?

[Wile E]

Crap, you caught me without Vista installed, atm. lol

Still works in XP, so I'll download and see if it still runs without Vista installed.

[Wile E]

How much ram is Vista seeing, Reven?

[ex_reven]

only 2

[Wile E]

Ok, go to the advanced tab of VistaBootPro, select your Vista install from the drop down menu, and click the Enable Physical Address Extension box, then click Apply Settings. Reboot.

After you get back into Vista, go to your start menu. In programs, go to the Accessories folder. Right-click Command Prompt, and select Run As Administrator. In the command box type this:

bcdedit.exe /set IncreaseUserVa 3072


That should enable the 3GB switch.

EDIT: Original had a typo, it's bcdedit, not bsdedit. lol

[ex_reven]

hold on...I rebooted after enabling PAE and still no 4 gb :wtf:
Or does it only turn up after I se the command prompt?

[Wile E]

PAE should've freed up some of that ram.

Try the 3GB switch to see if that helps.

Also, does your BIOS have a memory remap option? If so, enable it.

If worse comes to worse, try 64bit Vista. lol

[ex_reven]

PAE should've freed up some of that ram.

Try the 3GB switch to see if that helps.

Also, does your BIOS have a memory remap option? If so, enable it.

If worse comes to worse, try 64bit Vista. lol

Yeah i bought 32 bit before I upgraded my memory :( pity...
Ill Check bios and then redo it in Vista Boot Pro

[ex_reven]

I checked bios...PAE/Memory remap is enabled.
Still only 2 gigs in My Computer

[Wile E]

OK, i guess just try the 3GB switch anyway. Other than that, I'm out of ideas.

[ex_reven]

No dice. Dw about it.
Ty

[jjnissanpatfan]

Well i installed vista ultamate last night and cant over clock past 2.1???With xp 3.5 no-problems with vista it just freeze's the loading screen but can boot in safe mode at 3.5??
An i missing something also wouldn't let me install overclocked i should of know better right there.Any help here would be great!!!!

[jjnissanpatfan]

Well after hours of configuring the bios i can boot vista at 2.8cpu with 1.45core with xp it was 1.25 at 3.0???

[jjnissanpatfan]

Well i must say the support i get is the greatest!!!!!!!Two weeks later no-one has even tried to help thanx again!!!!!Anyway since ive been using vista for a 420front side bus i need 1.475cpu volts crazy xp needs only 1.25???Also since yesterday no more video card overclocking at all riva worked great till yesterday now there's no opition there??I've tried ati tool,powerstrip and the nvidia crap nothing.So now when i run Call of Juarez DX10 Benchmark instead of average of 24frames i get 8 now wtf.Vista so far has not been worth it at all.

[Larkina]

I have tried to use several programs to clean wipe my hard drive. What I mean is the program probably do work but I can't get pass creating a floppy diskette. Everytime I try to create a floppy I get an error message saying something like ERROR MESSAGE NO DRIVE FOUND ERROR CODE STATUS 0120. I believe this may have something to do with this RAID ON option in Vista. Even though I don't have a Raid configuration my bios setting for this option is by default set to RAID ON when it should be set to AUTO DETECT. Can someone please help me to get pass all of this so that I can create a Western Digital Diagnostic Dos floppy so that I can zero out my hard drive. I'm not trying to just format I'm wanting to wipe my HD clean of all the junk from previous installation and thank you in advance for the help.

[Boneface]

Ok so i just reinstalled vista home prem. It loaded the default drivers for my vid card and i was able to use a res of 1280x1024 which is great untill i install the latest drivers from invida and i can only do a res of 1024x768. Now is this a vista problem or its it nvidia and does anyone know how i can fix this. I am using an Aopen 17inch lcd monitor and is plug and play i guess



thanks
Boneface

[acousticlemur]

i have a problem with the power settings i think. a few months ago i fried my 9600XT and while waiting for RMA i used my old FX 5200 Ultra. after booting to vista ultimate it instantly went to standby at the login screen. and in XP too. so i went into safe mode in XP and changed the power option form home office to always on and all is well. but there is no such option in vista. soes anybody know how i can solve this issue? i can boot vista in safe mode with no problem. and now that i have my 9600 back the problem is still there. so i formatted both partitions XP and vista and i cant reinstall vista cause it goes into standby on the final boot where ya pic your display pic and wallpaper and shit. so i have removed vista and gave up on it. any ideas?

[Wile E]

Well i must say the support i get is the greatest!!!!!!!Two weeks later no-one has even tried to help thanx again!!!!!Anyway since ive been using vista for a 420front side bus i need 1.475cpu volts crazy xp needs only 1.25???Also since yesterday no more video card overclocking at all riva worked great till yesterday now there's no opition there??I've tried ati tool,powerstrip and the nvidia crap nothing.So now when i run Call of Juarez DX10 Benchmark instead of average of 24frames i get 8 now wtf.Vista so far has not been worth it at all.
I can't help you with your video card problem, but a lot of people have complained about either having to raise voltage or lower their cpu overclock with Vista. Vista is more sensitive to even the most minuscule instability in your overclock.

[simsim44]

Well i must say the support i get is the greatest!!!!!!!Two weeks later no-one has even tried to help thanx again!!!!!Anyway since ive been using vista for a 420front side bus i need 1.475cpu volts crazy xp needs only 1.25???Also since yesterday no more video card overclocking at all riva worked great till yesterday now there's no opition there??I've tried ati tool,powerstrip and the nvidia crap nothing.So now when i run Call of Juarez DX10 Benchmark instead of average of 24frames i get 8 now wtf.Vista so far has not been worth it at all.


Just curious, is your copy of Vista's 32, or 64 bit, I noticed your sig suggest it would be 64, however if it is 32 this could be a concern.(I know that sounds like I'm being smart, but I'm not) I tried runinng 32bit version on my 64 bit rig, which I thought was a better set up but it just doesn't run well after I installed the latest drivers, so I rewrote zeros to the drive and put Vista on the #2 rig, go figure runs better than expected, I am still having a modem concern though( haven't sat down to play in a while), It's a hardware issue, anywho, I was just visiting amd ati , to see if any changes have been made and sure enough 7.7 has bee released so I take the time to see what the release notes are, and your game was mentioned, I did not read the specifics (I was looking for ati core issues) but, with that said tells me the games known issues were addressed by ati so maybe nVida will be following suite and addressing the known vista compatibillity concerns, or I could be a complete fool, I am not an IT or computer wizzard of any sort.
P.S. whats running in the background ? Even with XP I still go in and shut down ever thing that is not critical. hope it helps.
Tim

[simsim44]

Ok so i just reinstalled vista home prem. It loaded the default drivers for my vid card and i was able to use a res of 1280x1024 which is great untill i install the latest drivers from invida and i can only do a res of 1024x768. Now is this a vista problem or its it nvidia and does anyone know how i can fix this. I am using an Aopen 17inch lcd monitor and is plug and play i guess



thanks
Boneface

I would like to believe it's, neither run the default driver until there are performance issues, then address them accordingly, I have had similar concerns,( mine were 32 bit software on a 64 bit rig, it suddenly got real slooow,and would take minutes to do any one task) If you have specific issues you then know what to look for( by reading release notes before installing updates) I also checked the driver numbers versions and there were differences (I don't remember specifics, just remember they were different), so I don't know if there were copyright laws or chronological again, I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, just going on whats posted, and I really don't think that the monitor is a concern, when in doubt swap it out.

[Boneface]

I would like to believe it's, neither run the default driver until there are performance issues, then address them accordingly, I have had similar concerns,( mine were 32 bit software on a 64 bit rig, it suddenly got real slooow,and would take minutes to do any one task) If you have specific issues you then know what to look for( by reading release notes before installing updates) I also checked the driver numbers versions and there were differences (I don't remember specifics, just remember they were different), so I don't know if there were copyright laws or chronological again, I'm not trying to sound like a jerk, just going on whats posted, and I really don't think that the monitor is a concern, when in doubt swap it out.



I have no slow downs at all everything runs great even COH dx10 version gets me ove 60fps everything maxed. I was just hoping to get the higher res. I know its not a monitor problem, xp runs at my 1280x1024 res. Oh well ill just keep looking online for the answer. thanks for the help


Boneface

[jjnissanpatfan]

I can't help you with your video card problem, but a lot of people have complained about either having to raise voltage or lower their cpu overclock with Vista. Vista is more sensitive to even the most minuscule instability in your overclock.

I figured out the gpu thing but i wish there was some way to lowering my cpu volts cause it boots in safe mode low volts but normal starts need 1.475@3.0 thats high.





Just curious, is your copy of Vista's 32, or 64 bit, I noticed your sig suggest it would be 64, however if it is 32 this could be a concern.(I know that sounds like I'm being smart, but I'm not) I tried runinng 32bit version on my 64 bit rig, which I thought was a better set up but it just doesn't run well after I installed the latest drivers, so I rewrote zeros to the drive and put Vista on the #2 rig, go figure runs better than expected, I am still having a modem concern though( haven't sat down to play in a while), It's a hardware issue, anywho, I was just visiting amd ati , to see if any changes have been made and sure enough 7.7 has bee released so I take the time to see what the release notes are, and your game was mentioned, I did not read the specifics (I was looking for ati core issues) but, with that said tells me the games known issues were addressed by ati so maybe nVida will be following suite and addressing the known vista compatibillity concerns, or I could be a complete fool, I am not an IT or computer wizzard of any sort.
P.S. whats running in the background ? Even with XP I still go in and shut down ever thing that is not critical. hope it helps.
Tim
It is 32 bit i found out the only video drivers i can overclock with are 158.18 if i try anything newer i can't overclock anymore.For some weird reason when i used newer drivers it kept the video card at 200\400 :banghead: and no overclocking with anything.

[Oliver_FF]

I figured out the gpu thing but i wish there was some way to lowering my cpu volts cause it boots in safe mode low volts but normal starts need 1.475@3.0 thats high.

The way i've read about it - Vista monitors voltage fluctuation's that occur inside your hardware to prevent hackers from obtaining "premium content" from your hardware. I guess this is there to help protect their excessive efforts of encrypting said content as it travels between your cpu and video card... Anyway, this means that even if your overclock is Prime stable the voltage fluctuations may not be stable enough for Vista to be happy enough to boot.

[Oliver_FF]

Ok so i just reinstalled vista home prem. It loaded the default drivers for my vid card and i was able to use a res of 1280x1024 which is great untill i install the latest drivers from invida and i can only do a res of 1024x768. Now is this a vista problem or its it nvidia and does anyone know how i can fix this. I am using an Aopen 17inch lcd monitor and is plug and play i guess



thanks
Boneface

I see in your specs you've using a massive monitor, is it an actual monitor, or HDTV? If it's a HDTV is the native resolution 1280x1024? or is the larger resolution being downscaled to fit?

[Boneface]

LOL sorry my bad i forgot to change that. I am only using a 17inch aopen lcd now that runs 1280x1024 on xp

[Falru]

Ok I've googled this to death and all I get is "Install better drivers" and that seems to do nothing.

My problem is my audio stutters a lot whenever I do...like...anything Hard drive or CPU related (still trying to determine which one it is)


System:
Motherboard: ASUS P5VD2-MX SE
Chipset (Northbridge) : VIA P4M890
Chipset (Southbridge) : VIA VT8237A
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 Conroe 1.86 GHz
Memory: G.Skill 2 GB (2 x 1 GB) DD2 533 MHz RAM
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar RE WD1600YS 160 GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0
Audio Chipset: Realtek ALC660
Audio Channels: 6

Everytime I try to change drivers from the ones that came with the CD I don't get audio at all, and the ones on the CD are the ones that give me this stutter problem (they're meant for XP). Conveniently all the Vista ones won't work. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

EDIT: Ok now I'm using the vista driver and it looks like it THINKS it's making audio (the meter shows that it IS) but it's not coming out headphones or the speakers. -_- and now it lets me use my frontmic (i screwed around with speech recognition for a while) while the driver that gives me stuttering audio doesn't let me use it all.


Why must this be such a pain! ><

[Wile E]

Ok I've googled this to death and all I get is "Install better drivers" and that seems to do nothing.

My problem is my audio stutters a lot whenever I do...like...anything Hard drive or CPU related (still trying to determine which one it is)


System:
Motherboard: ASUS P5VD2-MX SE
Chipset (Northbridge) : VIA P4M890
Chipset (Southbridge) : VIA VT8237A
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6320 Conroe 1.86 GHz
Memory: G.Skill 2 GB (2 x 1 GB) DD2 533 MHz RAM
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar RE WD1600YS 160 GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0
Audio Chipset: Realtek ALC660
Audio Channels: 6

Everytime I try to change drivers from the ones that came with the CD I don't get audio at all, and the ones on the CD are the ones that give me this stutter problem (they're meant for XP). Conveniently all the Vista ones won't work. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

EDIT: Ok now I'm using the vista driver and it looks like it THINKS it's making audio (the meter shows that it IS) but it's not coming out headphones or the speakers. -_- and now it lets me use my frontmic (i screwed around with speech recognition for a while) while the driver that gives me stuttering audio doesn't let me use it all.


Why must this be such a pain! ><Did you try updating your mobo's BIOS? They could've changed something in a newer BIOS, that's needed for the Vista drivers.

[tony929292]

i was just woundering how do i turn hibernate off in vista i tried (run) powercfg -hibernate off

[Judas]

i was just woundering how do i turn hibernate off in vista i tried (run) powercfg -hibernate off

Right click mouse on desktop personalization/screensaver at bottom click on change power settings then on left choose when to turn off display

[Tutsumi]

My Windows/System32 winload.exe file got corrupted and I can't find any place where to get a fresh copy. I'm running Home Premium on my Vista system and I can't re-install Vista because the harddrive is from Sony/Toshiba...and you know how they like to make sure you can't repair it yourself. Can someone help point me into a direction where i could get a copy of that ONE file so I can start working on my laptop again, please?

[Wile E]

My Windows/System32 winload.exe file got corrupted and I can't find any place where to get a fresh copy. I'm running Home Premium on my Vista system and I can't re-install Vista because the harddrive is from Sony/Toshiba...and you know how they like to make sure you can't repair it yourself. Can someone help point me into a direction where i could get a copy of that ONE file so I can start working on my laptop again, please?Can you boot from a Vista disk, and Choose the repair option.

On another note, why wouldn't you be able to install Vista? Where the hard drive came from doesn't matter.

[Tutsumi]

Sony has it running the Home Premium OEMake, so I can't reinstall it without wiping everything off my computer.

I can run an all Vista version disc I got but it says there's nothing wrong with it. I believe if I just get that one winload.exe file everything would be alright.

[Namslas90]

Look Here;http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=37887:toast:

[Random Murderer]

I need some help getting Vista Ultimate x86 running right on my friend's computer.
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ socket 754, 2 GB DDR400, MSI K8MM-ILSR, ATi x1650 PRO 512MB AGP.
Vista runs fine - until you install ANY ATi drivers... we started with the 7.9's, gave a bsod with a "ATIKMDAG.SYS" error. 7.8's gave the same thing. Read a couple of posts on other forums and thy said that the 7.2's wouldn't do this, so I installed the 7.2's. No ATIKMDAG.SYS bsod, this time I get a "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" bsod.
Any ideas?

[Wile E]

I need some help getting Vista Ultimate x86 running right on my friend's computer.
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ socket 754, 2 GB DDR400, MSI K8MM-ILSR, ATi x1650 PRO 512MB AGP.
Vista runs fine - until you install ANY ATi drivers... we started with the 7.9's, gave a bsod with a "ATIDMAG.SYS" error. 7.8's gave the same thing. Read a couple of posts on other forums and thy said that the 7.2's wouldn't do this, so I installed the 7.2's. No ATIDMAG.SYS bsod, this time I get a "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" bsod.
Any ideas?
You need to update Vista first. There's an updated MS ATI driver that needs to go on first.

[Random Murderer]

You need to update Vista first. There's an updated MS ATI driver that needs to go on first.

vista is completely up to date. after installing it, there were 2.5 GB of updates, we spent the first night getting those.
included in these updates was in fact an ati driver, that driver caused the atikmdag.sys bsod's as well.

[Firedomain]

sorry to add to the chaos that is this thread. but i have something thats really bugging me & i cant find anything to stop it.
i am running voice recognition & while i play music VR is detecting sound. even when i have my mic unpluged.
so y is there audio signal going through the mic in windows when i have no mic connected!!!
im using headphones so nothings piking up the noise!
i dont understand y its having audio signal go through the mic (if i go into control panel, sound, mic. its showing a mic with sound being detected!

plz help, with this problem i am unable to use VR with music, or while talkin 2 friends or i am also unable to chat online & listen 2 music at the same time coz the sounds will go 2 my friends comp 2!

any help would b greatly appreciated.
Thanx guys.

[Random Murderer]

Bump.

[Oliver_FF]

I need some help getting Vista Ultimate x86 running right on my friend's computer.
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ socket 754, 2 GB DDR400, MSI K8MM-ILSR, ATi x1650 PRO 512MB AGP.
Vista runs fine - until you install ANY ATi drivers... we started with the 7.9's, gave a bsod with a "ATIKMDAG.SYS" error. 7.8's gave the same thing. Read a couple of posts on other forums and thy said that the 7.2's wouldn't do this, so I installed the 7.2's. No ATIKMDAG.SYS bsod, this time I get a "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" bsod.
Any ideas?

Are you installing the correct Vista 32bit drivers from AMD's website, and are you removing the old versions of the drivers before you update?

Have you tried rolling back to the drivers that came with Vista?

[Oliver_FF]

sorry to add to the chaos that is this thread. but i have something thats really bugging me & i cant find anything to stop it.
i am running voice recognition & while i play music VR is detecting sound. even when i have my mic unpluged.
so y is there audio signal going through the mic in windows when i have no mic connected!!!
im using headphones so nothings piking up the noise!
i dont understand y its having audio signal go through the mic (if i go into control panel, sound, mic. its showing a mic with sound being detected!

plz help, with this problem i am unable to use VR with music, or while talkin 2 friends or i am also unable to chat online & listen 2 music at the same time coz the sounds will go 2 my friends comp 2!

any help would b greatly appreciated.
Thanx guys.


Try upgrading your Audio drivers - go to the control panel, Windows Update, on the left click "Check for Updates" and wait a while. When it's done, click the little "View Available Updates". If it finds some new audio drivers you should get them.

[Firedomain]

na, there all up to date

[Random Murderer]

Are you installing the correct Vista 32bit drivers from AMD's website, and are you removing the old versions of the drivers before you update?

Have you tried rolling back to the drivers that came with Vista?

yes, in between installing any drivers i made sure to use driver cleaner and then manually go in and remove any remaining ati software while in safe mode.
i have tried the vista 32bit 7.9's, 7.8's, 7.1's, and 7.2's off of amd's website, i have also tried the drivers that came with the graphics card and the drivers vista recommends (the ones in windows update).

[Random Murderer]

bump

[Wile E]

I dunno Random, I'm stumped. Maybe it's just a bad OS install?

[Oliver_FF]

na, there all up to date

Ok, i'll admit it's rather wierd...

Back in the day, when I used to play around with Anarchy Online and Ventrilo (basically like teamspeak) I found the best way to get music and voice working well together was to have a separate £10 sound card:
1. play music/audio through your main audio device (probably onboard).
2. mute the mic input of the onboard.
3. plug the mic into the cheap-ass sound card.
4. mute the output of the cheap-ass sound card.
5. choose the cheap-ass card as your audio input device with ts.

The best part about that setup is that you'll never ever ever get any form of feedback :toast:

Oh yeah, it will also solve your wierd problem. Hell, if you wanted to spend a little more than £10 you could even get a card with superior audio quality than your onboard!

[Oliver_FF]

yes, in between installing any drivers i made sure to use driver cleaner and then manually go in and remove any remaining ati software while in safe mode.
i have tried the vista 32bit 7.9's, 7.8's, 7.1's, and 7.2's off of amd's website, i have also tried the drivers that came with the graphics card and the drivers vista recommends (the ones in windows update).

What about the WDM ones, the poor pathetic ones that comes with vista out of the box before any upgrades of any sort? Just want to make sure it's not a hardware issue giving some of these bluescreens. Is it stable enough to run a stress test with ATiTool?

[Random Murderer]

What about the WDM ones, the poor pathetic ones that comes with vista out of the box before any upgrades of any sort? Just want to make sure it's not a hardware issue giving some of these bluescreens. Is it stable enough to run a stress test with ATiTool?

wdm's have been tried as well.
the damn thing is stable as hell until you put any form of ati software on it, but of course you need the drivers or 3d apps won't run right...
i appreciate all the help so far, but i need this problem solved asap; the poor kid is gonna go buy a new hdd and a copy of xp if we can't get this resolved soon...

[Random Murderer]

bump

[Firedomain]

Ok, i'll admit it's rather wierd...

Back in the day, when I used to play around with Anarchy Online and Ventrilo (basically like teamspeak) I found the best way to get music and voice working well together was to have a separate £10 sound card:
1. play music/audio through your main audio device (probably onboard).
2. mute the mic input of the onboard.
3. plug the mic into the cheap-ass sound card.
4. mute the output of the cheap-ass sound card.
5. choose the cheap-ass card as your audio input device with ts.

The best part about that setup is that you'll never ever ever get any form of feedback :toast:

Oh yeah, it will also solve your wierd problem. Hell, if you wanted to spend a little more than £10 you could even get a card with superior audio quality than your onboard!

i was thinking about it. was looking at getting a Razor Baracudda.
but not at the moment.

my onboard works awesome (shockingly)
(check sys specs 2 see mobo)

its detecting the music, coz when i stop the music it detects nothing... so i dont know.....
maybe there's a setting somewhere im missing... or its fu**ed... 1 or the other! lol

Thanx 4 the reps anyway ppl.

am upgrading to vista X64 soon (within the week)... who knows, could possibly fix the prob (would be strange if it did, but i wouldn't complain!)

[Oliver_FF]

wdm's have been tried as well.
the damn thing is stable as hell until you put any form of ati software on it, but of course you need the drivers or 3d apps won't run right...
i appreciate all the help so far, but i need this problem solved asap; the poor kid is gonna go buy a new hdd and a copy of xp if we can't get this resolved soon...

Have you looked in your error logs for anything suspicious, or any more info?

[Random Murderer]

Have you looked in your error logs for anything suspicious, or any more info?

how do i get to those logs?

[Oliver_FF]

Go to the control panel, go to Administrative Tools, then Event Viewer. UAC will jump in asking for permission to continue, grant it.

Let it load - in the middle of the window you'll get a list of all the logged events... Critical, Error, Warning, Information, Audit Success and Audit Failure.

Don't get worried at how many errors/warnings you've got - every little thing seems to get listed in Vista - i've recorded 60,000 errors in the 3 months i've been on Vista!

Just look around for anything logged around the time you get the crashes... or if your feeling daring, crash it, reboot and look at the latest logs.

[Random Murderer]

Go to the control panel, go to Administrative Tools, then Event Viewer. UAC will jump in asking for permission to continue, grant it.

Let it load - in the middle of the window you'll get a list of all the logged events... Critical, Error, Warning, Information, Audit Success and Audit Failure.

Don't get worried at how many errors/warnings you've got - every little thing seems to get listed in Vista - i've recorded 60,000 errors in the 3 months i've been on Vista!

Just look around for anything logged around the time you get the crashes... or if your feeling daring, crash it, reboot and look at the latest logs.

ok, i looked, nothing from the last crash that i didn't know. but i did find something interesting on google. apparently people are fixing this error by forcing their fan speeds to 100% either through atitool or by hardwiring it to a molex. i'll speak to him and see if he would like to take this route.

[Random Murderer]

ok, i looked, nothing from the last crash that i didn't know. but i did find something interesting on google. apparently people are fixing this error by forcing their fan speeds to 100% either through atitool or by hardwiring it to a molex. i'll speak to him and see if he would like to take this route.

well, the hardmod didn't fix the problem, but the card runs cooler now :D

[Random Murderer]

Bump

[Random Murderer]

bump

[Wile E]

bumpSeriously, at this point, the only thing I can think of is to do a clean install. Vista for me just seems to be more prone to getting a bad install. I've had it happen to me before. Some things just wouldn't work right on a fresh install, but when I redid it, everything was fine. If that doesn't solve it, then I don't know what to say, go to XP and hope the Alky project comes thru?

[Random Murderer]

Seriously, at this point, the only thing I can think of is to do a clean install. Vista for me just seems to be more prone to getting a bad install. I've had it happen to me before. Some things just wouldn't work right on a fresh install, but when I redid it, everything was fine. If that doesn't solve it, then I don't know what to say, go to XP and hope the Alky project comes thru?

reinstallation didn't work...

[Random Murderer]

reinstallation didn't work...

screw it.
i give up.
vista has been wiped from his drive and xp pro has been installed...:rockout:

[ADV4NCED]

Guys let me just say I have exhausted my resources on finding out WTF is causing the problems I'm having. Microsoft nor Nvidia can help on this one.

My system:
Q6600 @ stock
Asus P5N32-E Sli [B](Latest Bios 1205)[B]
BFG 8800GTX OC 600/900 (Factory overclocked)
G Skill DDR2 800 2gb running dual channel (stock speeds)
Seagate 250gb SATA 7200.10 (My main harddrive which all OS's are installed on)
Maxtor 80gb Sata
AeroCool Zerodba 620w psu
Vista Ultimate x64 as well as tried Vista Ultimate x86

My problem:

I get NUMEROUS blue screens of death whenever I play any game. I get crashes with errors like PAGED_ERROR_IN_NONPAGED_AREA aswell as the infamous nvldkkm.sys crash. Tons of others, but not enough time to read/see what file is causing it. The last crash I had about 30 mins ago, was NTFS.sys or similar to that.

I've tried Vista Ult. 32 bit, 4 different installations (3 of them complete format to Vista and the other dual-boot XP 32bit & Vista). Right now I decided to see if Vista Ulti. 64 bit would solve my problem but it hasn't.

I have the latest drivers for my GFX [forceware 163.75(regardless of WHQL drivers, the problem still occurs)] and the latest for my motherboard (nforce 15.08).

Each time I go back to XP, I rid myself of these problems except for the last time (3 days ago) which I believe was due to my harddrive having bad sectors which scan disk fixed and never saw a bsod on XP again....trust me to try vista again :ohwell: :banghead:

Now I've swapped out the PSU, RAM, CPU and GFX to see if anything changed. NOTHING HAS CHANGED!

I also have updated Vista to the latest updates available. All I can think now is that my Motherboard has something against Vista - which it SHOULDN'T as it IS a Vista certified mobo.

Can anyone out there help me? I've searched all over the net with tons of people complaining about the same thing with NO FIXES to the problem. And if there is a fix, it fix the problem for everyone or permenently.

[ADV4NCED]

Guys let me just say I have exhausted my resources on finding out WTF is causing the problems I'm having. Microsoft nor Nvidia can help on this one.

My system:
Q6600 @ stock
Asus P5N32-E Sli [B](Latest Bios 1205)[B]
BFG 8800GTX OC 600/900 (Factory overclocked)
G Skill DDR2 800 2gb running dual channel (stock speeds)
Seagate 250gb SATA 7200.10 (My main harddrive which all OS's are installed on)
Maxtor 80gb Sata
AeroCool Zerodba 620w psu
Vista Ultimate x64 as well as tried Vista Ultimate x86

My problem:

I get NUMEROUS blue screens of death whenever I play any game. I get crashes with errors like PAGED_ERROR_IN_NONPAGED_AREA aswell as the infamous nvldkkm.sys crash. Tons of others, but not enough time to read/see what file is causing it. The last crash I had about 30 mins ago, was NTFS.sys or similar to that.

I've tried Vista Ult. 32 bit, 4 different installations (3 of them complete format to Vista and the other dual-boot XP 32bit & Vista). Right now I decided to see if Vista Ulti. 64 bit would solve my problem but it hasn't.

I have the latest drivers for my GFX [forceware 163.75(regardless of WHQL drivers, the problem still occurs)] and the latest for my motherboard (nforce 15.08).

Each time I go back to XP, I rid myself of these problems except for the last time (3 days ago) which I believe was due to my harddrive having bad sectors which scan disk fixed and never saw a bsod on XP again....trust me to try vista again :ohwell: :banghead:

Now I've swapped out the PSU, RAM, CPU and GFX to see if anything changed. NOTHING HAS CHANGED!

I also have updated Vista to the latest updates available. All I can think now is that my Motherboard has something against Vista - which it SHOULDN'T as it IS a Vista certified mobo.

Can anyone out there help me? I've searched all over the net with tons of people complaining about the same thing with NO FIXES to the problem. And if there is a fix, it fix the problem for everyone or permenently.

The latest blue screen (5 mins ago), some info about the error that Vista showed upon bootup:

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.0.6000.2.0.0.256.1
Locale ID: 7177

Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 1e
BCP1: FFFFFFFFC0000005
BCP2: FFFFF80001ECC61F
BCP3: 0000000000000000
BCP4: 0000000000003FE9
OS Version: 6_0_6000
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1

Files that help describe the problem:
C:\Windows\Minidump\Mini101007-01.dmp
C:\Users\Durban Poison\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-27783-0.sysdata.xml
C:\Users\Durban Poison\AppData\Local\Temp\WER80B3.tmp.version.txt

[Wile E]

About your hard drive and bad sectors. BACK UP NOW!! Suddenly appearing bad sectors is usually an early warning sign for HD failure.


Now, hopefully on to the problems. Have you installed the newest Direct X?

And what games is this happening on?

[Firedomain]

my 1st guess woulda been a dodgy hard drive 2!
the only reason i question that is coz xp ran fine.

but i stil recon its the hdd

(& just for the record elfen lied rules..:D)

[Wile E]

(& just for the record elfen lied rules..:D)Yes, yes it does. lol


But back on topic. Hard drive is my hunch as well, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to make sure DX is up to date.

[ADV4NCED]

lol guys look @ my join date to the forums, I'm no n00b to the forums or computers ;)

When on XP I've tried plain DX9 as well as DX9.0c. XP isn't my problem though - formatted last night back to XP (and running like a beauty :)), couldnt handle those bloody bsod's every 15 mins :eek:

The last bsod I saw was Memory_management (vista). What I tried was uninstalling my nvidia drivers completely and try to play a game without any video drivers installed. Games looked horrible and never solved the problem, after 2 mins during BMW M3 Challenge, BSOD! :banghead: So in my mind its not a problem due to Nvidia's drivers - also backing this up is the fact that some ATI users also have these issues.

Anyway, I also am questioning this HDD, however every diagnostic test I do, it comes up clean :confused: I got another diagnostic test from work today, will run over night testing my hdd to see if it finds any bad sectors. Works really well @ work (I'm a technician) so if my seagate is dieing on me, this should pick it up.

[JousteR]

Glad this had been bumped saved me face and stopped me making new thread...
Anyway my problem is that for the last few weeks windows update doesnt let me update and the damn control panel refuses to open..?:confused:


Any ideas chaps or is anyone else suffering from this..?
Please stop me from uninstalling Vista for a 4th time..:laugh:

[Firedomain]

lol guys look @ my join date to the forums, I'm no n00b to the forums or computers ;)

When on XP I've tried plain DX9 as well as DX9.0c. XP isn't my problem though - formatted last night back to XP (and running like a beauty :)), couldnt handle those bloody bsod's every 15 mins :eek:

The last bsod I saw was Memory_management (vista). What I tried was uninstalling my nvidia drivers completely and try to play a game without any video drivers installed. Games looked horrible and never solved the problem, after 2 mins during BMW M3 Challenge, BSOD! :banghead: So in my mind its not a problem due to Nvidia's drivers - also backing this up is the fact that some ATI users also have these issues.

Anyway, I also am questioning this HDD, however every diagnostic test I do, it comes up clean :confused: I got another diagnostic test from work today, will run over night testing my hdd to see if it finds any bad sectors. Works really well @ work (I'm a technician) so if my seagate is dieing on me, this should pick it up.

I'm not accusing anyone here, but i'm gonna just guess this aint a "legit" copy of vista?
if it aint i'd deffinately either say its a bad copy (because of the "Image" style vista was created with, a bad file may b copied isactly as it is on the disc instead of detecting a corrupt file or anything.) or i'd say for some reason you have serious compatibility issues with ur mobo or something.

i personaly use vista at home & have not had a problem with it crashing (after all the updates.... dont get me started on how unstable it is befor the updates!)

my "friend" has a non-legit version & he has problems all the time from a bad image of vista.

is there another copy you can try 2 install? (on another partition or something, so u dont have 2 wipe everything again.)

if this is a legit copy, then my bad.... but still a possibility its a bad disc???