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AshenSugar
02-07-2007, 08:56 AM
PerfectDisk Professional 8.0.0.50
PerfectDisk is the best defrag app avalable, if you havent tryed it, give it a shot :)
Publisher's Description:
PerfectDisk redefines enterprise disk defragmentation addressing an issue that Microsoft, in various published artices, states is often the cause of poor system performance on a system. Provides the most comprehensive solution for defragmentation by optimizing virtually every file on the system, including the Master File Table ($MFT), all metadata, paging files, and directories. Patented SMART Placement technology arranges files on a disk to ensure that free space is consolidated and the future rate of fragmentation is minimized.
http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/PerfectDisk_Professional/1019208780/1
give it a shot :)
Alec§taar
02-09-2007, 07:36 PM
Thanks!
:)
* On it, like "White on Rice"... PerfectDisk took over here, over Diskeeper 10.x (even though I was a fairly loyal user of it since NT 3.5 & version 1.01, all the way up to THAT model)!
Mainly because of what I read about PD being superior to Diskeeper in single-pass defrag scenarios from literature @ the RAXCO website that was absolutely legit, as well as what I heard people saying about it... including one of their tech support folks (GHayes) whom I had met on another forums in years past, & he told me they made a BETTER product, especially for single-pass defrag scenarios... I had a hard time believing it, until I came to THESE forums, & started researching it.
(AND, Execsoft had NO contradictory material vs. that shown by Raxco, & seem to be concentrating MORE on "uptime", pretty crucial in industrial environs, & background defrag effectiveness, vs. single-pass home user type patterns).
APK
P.S.=> VISTA CERTIFIED READY NOW, as well: Some "FYI"... apk
Completely Bonkers
02-09-2007, 08:08 PM
I've swapped from Diskkeeper to PerfectDisk when I moved from NT to 2000. I've been a PerfectD user since 4.0 and all the way up to 6.
IMO v7 and 8 is not better than 6. And I find the graphics of 6 much simpler. THe information is presented in the right way: keep it simple. The defrag engine doesn't seem to have changed in any materially beneficial way. So I'm still with 6. (.34 update).
HOWEVER, I recently came across Disktrix Ultimate defrag. It has a different defrag method which I prefer: Reorganise by folder directory (a nice old Norton speed disk feature). You can also have a "priority" list to put at the TOP (or fastest) part of the disk.
Hence I have configured it with c:\windows to be consolidated as a directory near the start of the disk. It has improved performance.
\documents and settings ... which changes the most... consolidated near the END of the disk.
IMO it is actually better the PD. However, this is based on only a few uses. Time will tell.
Alec§taar
02-09-2007, 08:13 PM
Reorganise by folder directory (a nice old Norton speed disk feature). You can also have a "priority" list to put at the TOP (or fastest) part of the disk.
Yup, that was a COOL feature Speedisk had, & it only worked on Windows 2000... if you installed it to XP or above? The API calls 'reverted' to the Execsoft/Microsoft MoveFile API function methods:
Meaning its 'directory consolidation while in Windows' (for lack of a better expression) XP & above would not work that way any longer, & only on Windows 2000 could you perform a "logged into Windows" uptime directory/folder consolidation!
Too bad - Symantec had a GOOD THING GOING imo, w/ that... especially for those interested in 'uptime' (meaning not having to reboot to perform directory/folder consolidations, as all others require, @ least the "major players" out there (meaning Diskeeper &/or PerfectDisk)).
* Symantec, afaik, has dropped putting their defragger into their utility suites from that time onwards... too bad!
APK
P.S.=> That's one of the 'bits of trivia' I discovered/learned by talking/debating things w/ GHayes of RAXCO in fact... apk
AshenSugar
02-09-2007, 11:38 PM
if you want to consolodate folders and such fully do a boottime defrag, i do one every few months, takes a while on my systems but it helps and can move files that arent moveable when loged into windows
Alec§taar
02-09-2007, 11:41 PM
if you want to consolodate folders and such fully do a boottime defrag, i do one every few months, takes a while on my systems but it helps and can move files that arent moveable when loged into windows
It does... but, doesn't take TOO long here, because I do that as part of my Saturday A.M. weekly maintenance regime, so it gets done here periodically.
:)
* AntiVirus, AntiSpyware, AntiRootkit (latest addition), & Defragging = APK Sat. A.M. & coffee!
APK
lemonadesoda
02-10-2007, 03:58 AM
I just tried bonker's Disktrix Ultimate Defrag. Hmm. Seems interesting... but not sure. Certainly took a long time to run the defrag, but perhaps that's because I'm going from one algorithm (PD) to another (UD).
Anyone else tried it?
Alec§taar
02-10-2007, 10:02 AM
I just tried bonker's Disktrix Ultimate Defrag. Hmm. Seems interesting... but not sure. Certainly took a long time to run the defrag, but perhaps that's because I'm going from one algorithm (PD) to another (UD).
Anyone else tried it?
You just described an IMPORTANT point:
When you try Diskeeper, O&O, & PD??
They all use diff. measurements of what is fragmentation & IF you switch between them, run after run, once the diskbuffers flush out, & software caches on delayed writes?
You DO get LONG times between runs as you state!
All because they are shuffling that disk like mad, fitting their OWN version of what is 'defragged optimally' per their perception in code...
Even the ones that use Ms/Execsoft MoveFile API? It's their 'engines/algorithm's' measures of NTFS' (let's stick to this filesystem) extents (file parts housed in bands iirc, using HPFS from Os/2 term, it's largely where NTFS comes from) that are in more than 2-N pieces.
Measures that make this change between them, & where to put them optimally.
I took a course called "Linear Optimization" & it taught me a couple things:
1.) There are often SEVERAL ANSWERS that are valid, for a given problem/equation/hassle!
This is because many possible answers MAY lie "under a curve"... some of you may have seen this in Pre-Calc already too. It applies here.
&
2.) Sometimes, there is NO 'perfect 1 dataset absolute solution'... not for all given cases & sample sets.
(Outliers result - in the case of defrags? The files that can't be defragged due to the physics of the cluster/sector layout used on the disk!)
APK
P.S.=> With defraggers, is there 1 perfect solution? No... not for ALL given possible cases of use-patterns... They all offer options too, PD + O&O especially, & imo, this is to account for diff. types of data, disk pattern usage, & other things (cluster/sector size, format of filesystem, & most often accessed data type size)... apk
AshenSugar
02-10-2007, 10:13 AM
i avoid O&O like the plauge, it killed 4 systems on me, had to fully reinstall to get them working again,ewww.
Alec§taar
02-10-2007, 10:24 AM
i avoid O&O like the plauge, it killed 4 systems on me, had to fully reinstall to get them working again,ewww.
It got "stuck" on me a few times in the past, on disk w/ "huge" (relative term) files on them... Quake 1,2,3, & 4 & their pkzip compressed pak files (iirc, that is what J.C. & crew use on them).
& I let it run overnight into next day when I ended a job... 24 hrs., almost.
APK
P.S.=> Have YET to have PD or DK do that, but, I used one of the more "esoteric options" in O&O too, I have to admit (there are several)... anyhow, that's my take on this madness & lunacy! apk
Wile E
02-10-2007, 10:28 AM
I use O&O myself. I switched to it after Diskeeper killed my start volume after an offline defrag, on 3 different occasions. I'm guessing it was just some weird incompatibility issue, as I know many people who never had a problem with it. I've personally never had a problem with O&O. I like it personally, but I'm always willing to try something different. I might take PerfectDisk for a spin.
EDIT:Alex, I did have that issue once with O&O, unchecking the "use layout.ini" option cured it for me.
Completely Bonkers
02-10-2007, 02:51 PM
With defraggers, is there 1 perfect solution? No...
I hope there is only ONE solution for a newly formated drive. LOL
Alec§taar
02-11-2007, 12:55 AM
EDIT:Alex, I did have that issue once with O&O, unchecking the "use layout.ini" option cured it for me.
Yea, it happened when (I think I mentioned it above) I used one of its "non-std." options, & that's probably THE one... other than that?
That defragger's VERY nice - & it was MY fault for NOT reading on what the conditions needed to use that particular method were... I just 'tried it'.
Comparing the "big 3" defraggers in Diskeeper, PerfectDisk, + O&O (because they're of good quality nowadays) is like comparing FireFox, Opera, & IE7, OR like comparing WinZip, & WinRar - quality level is great on ALL programs.
APK
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