0.24 beta 7

[W1zzard]

- fixed problems when using atitool on rs480 motherboard
- fixed problems when using atitool with rio550 tv card
- fixed crash in hddtemp plugin

[MajorPenalty]

TY for the hddtemp plugin fix!

[dubcat]

I have it installed and all seems to be working just fine.

I still have that question about fan speeds. It seems 5% fan now is louder than 30% used to be - also 5% fan is holding a steady temp (of 50c) whereas before I needed 30% fan to hold a steady temp (of 55c) while idling. I know you changed the way you measure temp so i am not so concerned about the actual value as the rate of change.

By the way I can not reduce fan speed below 5% without it jumping to 0% so overall the system is a little louder than it used to be.

Dub

[funkydude]

just uninstalling and installing new version, gonna check a bug that i know of and see if its fixed, report back soon.

[funkydude]

bug is still there infact its even worse that 0.0.23
When i installed on an account it was mine and i have admin and it works fine. but when logging into a diferent account with no admin the program would load up fine but get this error
http://www.funkydude.info/storage/error1.JPG
But now with 0.0.24b7
i get the above error but it doesnt load the program, infact i get a 2nd error
http://www.funkydude.info/storage/error2.JPG
this only happens with non admin accounts

although it may happen with a different account with admin, i doubt it. im not sure if this is because they dont have admin or because my hard drive is ntfs so it seals different folders in the hard drive that people cant access. Where is the logfile stored?

2nd bug: if using startup mode(all users) and you uninstall it wont remove the startup option.
im not sure about the registry key, but it may not remove that either when uninstalling, maybe worth checking.

3rd bug: when uninstalling b7 the atitool folder doesnt delete, could be because i had plugins enabled but may not be.

Thanks

[W1zzard]

the log file is stored in atitool installation directory. do you have the atitool driver in your device manager?

2) fixed in next build

3) fixed in next build

[funkydude]

yes i do, not sure why its doing this.

[Gzero]

I know this is the wrong place to say this, but I was wondering if beta 24 addressess the bug in version 23 when you bring up the mem timings page then close it by the cross then open the page again and get garble for writing and it then crashes when you close the page.

[Moonwolf]

bug is still there infact its even worse that 0.0.23
When i installed on an account it was mine and i have admin and it works fine. but when logging into a diferent account with no admin the program would load up fine but get this error
http://www.funkydude.info/storage/error1.JPG
But now with 0.0.24b7
i get the above error but it doesnt load the program, infact i get a 2nd error
http://www.funkydude.info/storage/error2.JPG
this only happens with non admin accounts

although it may happen with a different account with admin, i doubt it. im not sure if this is because they dont have admin or because my hard drive is ntfs so it seals different folders in the hard drive that people cant access. Where is the logfile stored?

2nd bug: if using startup mode(all users) and you uninstall it wont remove the startup option.
im not sure about the registry key, but it may not remove that either when uninstalling, maybe worth checking.

3rd bug: when uninstalling b7 the atitool folder doesnt delete, could be because i had plugins enabled but may not be.

Thanks

From what I've read, ATI says you must have Admin rights to make any changes using this tool. Is this NOTthe case? It could also mean that the tool will not be useable on nonAdmin accounts. I'm not sure that this is a "bug". It seems more like a safety precaution to me. Perhaps the final public release will change this issue, but I doubt it. I personally think that nonAdmins have no business changing default settings on video cards! Most generally, if you have enough knowledge to use this tool, you should already have an Admin account! But Hey, I'm just an old lady. What do I know?

[AndreyPopov]

W1zzard one question:

if I use default Catalyst settings on my X800Pro modded to X800XT PE + waterblock and pencil voltmod core + heatsink on memory - and using ATITool artifacts become detected at 600/600, but NO any visual artifacts in 3DMark05 at 609/609 and some artifacts at 618/618.

but when I set Catalyst to High Quality (16x AF and 4x FSAA) - ATITool not find any artifacts until 630/624 - 3Dmark05 hangs only in third test.

is it normaly best overclock with High Quality settings?

and next:

default Catalyst settings - ATITool reported - temperature arround 72C and in 3D Preview arround 280-300fps

Catalyst High Quality settings - ATITool reported - temperature bellow 40C and in 3D Preview arround 18-21fps

[W1zzard]

I know this is the wrong place to say this, but I was wondering if beta 24 addressess the bug in version 23 when you bring up the mem timings page then close it by the cross then open the page again and get garble for writing and it then crashes when you close the page.

that should be fixed. if not please post here again

[W1zzard]

From what I've read, ATI says you must have Admin rights to make any changes using this tool. Is this NOTthe case? It could also mean that the tool will not be useable on nonAdmin accounts. I'm not sure that this is a "bug". It seems more like a safety precaution to me. Perhaps the final public release will change this issue, but I doubt it. I personally think that nonAdmins have no business changing default settings on video cards! Most generally, if you have enough knowledge to use this tool, you should already have an Admin account! But Hey, I'm just an old lady. What do I know?

what is the general opinion on this. should non-privileged users be allowed to change the video card's clock speeds?

[W1zzard]

From what I've read, ATI says you must have Admin rights to make any changes using this tool. Is this NOTthe case? It could also mean that the tool will not be useable on nonAdmin accounts. I'm not sure that this is a "bug". It seems more like a safety precaution to me. Perhaps the final public release will change this issue, but I doubt it. I personally think that nonAdmins have no business changing default settings on video cards! Most generally, if you have enough knowledge to use this tool, you should already have an Admin account! But Hey, I'm just an old lady. What do I know?

what is the general opinion on this. should non-privileged users be allowed to change the video card's clock speeds?

[sampofin]

Newer! No!

[opium]

No. They should not... The admin has some reasons on why he placed a limited account

[dubcat]

I agree - users can potentially physically harm the system with ATI tool if they use it without knowing what they are doing. I would hate for them to have access unless they have admin rights.

[funkydude]

your all off track, the program will not load on limited accounts!!!!!! it needs to load so it will overclock!!! nothing to do with changing settings!!!!

[Funnynick]

das einzigste was mir auf gefallen ist das ich einmal einen Plötzlichen auflösung wecksel hatte von 1280*1024 auf 800*600 ohne das ich was gemacht hab..aber sonst gibts keine Probleme mit der 0.24 beta 7...

mfg Funny

[Terminator]

Hi ATI Tool b7 is incorrectly reporting Temporal AA enabled when in fact it's not, a bug?

Cheers,

[Moonwolf]

your all off track, the program will not load on limited accounts!!!!!! it needs to load so it will overclock!!! nothing to do with changing settings!!!!


Isn't overclocking "changing settings"? Hmm.... You might want to rethink that, Luv. Why not just change the ID to Admin status?

I'm still of the opinion that it will not load because limited account holders have no business overclocking! All changes should be made on Admin status only.

Seriously guys...am I wrong on this? I 'm new to this forum, but not to Windows. I'm always open to listening and learning. ;)

[suraswami]

Quote:
Originally Posted by funkydude
your all off track, the program will not load on limited accounts!!!!!! it needs to load so it will overclock!!! nothing to do with changing settings!!!!

This can be debated but the request is sometimes you can set users to enjoy the overclocked frequency of the video card for playing games. Please allow to load the modified profiles for users who belong to atleast power users of windows.

[Echbart]

i have OC my card to 450/228 and it doesnt shows artifacts, but when i start 3dview it is for a less then a second you can see strange colors on 3dview screen. And why it is by every atitool version diffrent FPS average?

[mag|c]

hey and thanks for the update, still no fan option for my card? When I click mem with my asus eax800xt pe pci-x i get this screen and when i close it, atitool crash.

[funkydude]

again ur missing the point, it used to load fine on limited accounts with 0.0.23 just that it would give me that error writing to log, 0.0.24b7 wont load at all, its a bug.

[funkydude]

another bug atitool isnt measuring my gpu's temperature i have x600
http://www.funkydude.info/storage/atitoolbug1.JPG

[W1zzard]

what does the log file say about temperature chip detection?

[funkydude]

hmm this is probably why, but the x600 is pretty new i dont understand why it doesnt support monitoring

2005-04-06 16:31:32 ATITool v0.24 Beta 7 started.
2005-04-06 16:31:34 Detected GPU Chip: RV380 (5B62), 4 Pipelines, 256 MB
2005-04-06 16:31:34 Temperature monitoring: not supported
2005-04-06 16:31:34 Profile 'Paul' loaded. Clocks set to: 504.90 / 243.00
2005-04-06 16:31:38 LM78 found at 290
2005-04-06 16:31:38 LM78 type: Unknown
2005-04-06 16:31:39 UGuru.dll: UGuru not detected.
2005-04-06 17:00:59 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 17:01:09 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 17:01:19 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 17:01:29 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 17:01:39 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 17:01:49 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 17:01:59 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C

is this probably why when i enable temperature monitoring and i restart my pc its disabled again?

[W1zzard]

i added device id 5b62 to the lm63 scanning list, atitool did not look for the monitoring chip.. not sure if the card supports temp. monitoring tho

[SimekPL]

i have bug with temp. :/

2005-04-06 19:47:08 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 19:47:13 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 19:47:18 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 19:47:23 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 19:47:28 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 19:47:33 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 19:47:38 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 19:47:43 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 19:47:48 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C

My card is Gigabyte Radeon 9600 PRO

[funkydude]

2005-04-06 18:32:30 ATITool v0.24 Beta 7 started.
2005-04-06 18:32:30 Detected GPU Chip: RV380 (5B62), 4 Pipelines, 256 MB
2005-04-06 18:32:30 Temperature monitoring: chip not detected
2005-04-06 18:33:04 LM78 found at 290
2005-04-06 18:33:04 LM78 type: Unknown
2005-04-06 18:33:04 UGuru.dll: UGuru not detected.
2005-04-06 18:34:21 Clocks set to: 504.00 / 243.00
2005-04-06 18:35:38 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 18:35:48 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 18:35:58 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 18:36:02 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 18:36:12 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 18:36:22 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 18:36:32 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 18:36:42 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C
2005-04-06 18:36:52 Temperature: GPU: 0.0°C GPU environment: 0.0°C

Still doesnt work but its definately changed where it says 0 ¦ 0 ¦ 0.0 it used to say "disabled"

http://www.funkydude.info/storage/atitoolbug2.JPG

[W1zzard]

i would say your card does not support temperature monitoring .. can everest or rivatuner tell you the temp?

[funkydude]

Cant find everest
rivatuner doesnt even recognise my card so cant get any diagnostics :/

so is it a bug that every time i restart my pc monitoring turns off or is it because it cant monitor?

[gasty]

hellos people... i have a x800pro ... i dont know if this card is vivo or no ...the card is overclokeaded to 510 core and 550 memories ...
I want know which is the maximun Mhz of the memory and the core too ...
and how moded if yes vivo... to xt or pe
thanks

[gasty]

i used to overclock the riva tuner ... if you consider that there are more programs.. please give me the names .. thanks

[DudesBoss]

y0, heres a programe

its called ATI Tool..

lol. Ati tool is by far the best programe y0 people. It has auto find stuff in it so newbies dont go put some stupid figure in and wonder why there graphics card has a hot sense too it with steam comming out. Stick with ati tool. nothing wrong with it. :)

[gasty]

and another program??? this i dont understand the mechanise ..when i put find the max mem ...this number decrease ...

[Gzero]

Hey W1z, beta 7 fixes the mem setting page prob in 23. And I find my pc can also wake up. Keep up the good work. :)

I get a lower fps with the cube, did you make it more fluffy?

Could you add a button to access a log file, for scanning for artifacts, that shows how long the scan ran succefully before finding an error given that the scan time that is successful for is greater than say 5 minutes. Sometimes I saw that my pc wouldn't make it for the first ten then after that it could last forever.

[gasty]

another program to overclock???
what are you recomend????

[DudesBoss]

look mate, you type like a newb, you cant even spell properly.

you shouldnt be messing with your computer like that, as overclocking can be harmful to your pc. Overclocking is generally for advanced users only and thus you shouldnt do it as you may harm your computer. and for the 2nd time, Ati Tool is the best overclocker.. geez

[sabrewulf165]

My first post here. First W1zzard thank you for all your hard work on this program. It's a great tool and I've been using it for many versions and many ATI video cards now. Much better than using CCC (yuck!) and more convenient than CP.

Now, my question: Do you think you will add support for Geometry Instancing to ATITool? I like the Catalyst AI option that you offer now, and I thought that it would be nice to have a similar option for Geometry Instancing since there are now a few games that use it.

[W1zzard]

sabre i'll put it on the list and see if it makes it into the next build :)

[Terminator]

Hi ATI Tool b7 is incorrectly reporting Temporal AA enabled when in fact it's not, a bug?

Cheers,bump...

sorry meant to add this is regarding the Omega 5.2 set, tnx...

Cheers,

[jsname1]

Hello,
I just built a new computer to upgrade my 1800+ / Geforce3 combination - went for the works. The motherboard I have, the Tyan K8WE, is a dual-processor, dual Nforce board with two x16 PCIe lanes. I knew I was playing with fire mixing ATI and Nvidia, but, the results were much better than expected. Everything factory-supplied works fine. However, ATItool (both .23 and .24b7) fail to recognise the presence of my ATI card. I'm running a "Rosewill" X800 XL, with catalyst 5.4 drivers. I was hoping to OC the videocard, but no success thus far. I'm assuming my problems have to do with the nforce chipsets; is there anything I can do about this or am I boned?
Thanks for any and all help,
Paul rohrbaugh

[kRaZeD]

Just thought i would add my own little bit.

ATiTool still isnt working properly for nvidia. I just get a BSoD with this info:

Stop: 0x(lotsa zero's)8E (0x[zeros]C5 (or S... cant read my own writing:(), 0xF3EF3490, 0xF3E76D09)

ATITOOL.sys F3E76D09 base at F3E74000, Datestamp 41378a86.

System specs in tag, using official nvidia WHQL 66.93 drivers. Probably not a high priority due to it being an nvidia bug, but still one i thought was worthy of a report :)

[Plug]

Wizzard mate can you do me a favour please.

can you add motherboard support for Gigabytes GA7NNXP motherboards please
i would greatly apreshiate this motherboard added to the list of Gigabyte motherboards.

also great work on what your doing so far this program is turning out to be essensial :)

[neliz]

Just thought i would add my own little bit.

ATiTool still isnt working properly for nvidia. I just get a BSoD with this info:

Stop: 0x(lotsa zero's)8E (0x[zeros]C5 (or S... cant read my own writing:(), 0xF3EF3490, 0xF3E76D09)

ATITOOL.sys F3E76D09 base at F3E74000, Datestamp 41378a86.

System specs in tag, using official nvidia WHQL 66.93 drivers. Probably not a high priority due to it being an nvidia bug, but still one i thought was worthy of a report :)

The problem is, it was intended as funny.. but really.. I'm not laughing right now.

If you were saying you're trying it on your FX5200.. then I might be...

[kRaZeD]

No, it was serious. ATiTool is great for artifact scanning. Which is what is it primarily used for. And neliz if you had read my tag you would see that i dont have a 5200, but instead a 5900XT that overclocks quite well.

If you have nothing to contribute, then stfu :)

[W1zzard]

beta 8 out here: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=2917