x850 pro to x850 xtpe mod? [Archive]

SPHERE

04-09-2005, 07:03 AM

im about to buy another x850 in prep for amr so i was looking at this card and was hopeing it would mod to a xtpe and im prety shure it will aslong as the pipes are ok but has anyone ever done this mod

so baisicly my question is has anyone ever unlocked the pipes on a x850 pro

also these things come with 1.6 ns ram right?

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?submit=Go&DEPA=0&CMP=OTC-Froogle&description=N82E16814102498

ps. my curent xtpe is a moded xt

Tibu

04-17-2005, 12:19 AM

I have basically the same EXACT question. I was just about to make a new thread too lol. Any info on this? I searched google and came up empty handed.

Rover3500

04-21-2005, 04:07 PM

As far as I can tell by what I've read around the web, is that the XT can be a PE easy enough, but the pro has 12 pipes instead of 16 and on the 850 they are lazer cut, so I doubt that there would be an easy way to mod it, also I'm not sure if the pro would use 1.6ns chips, as it would only need 2.0ns for the speeds it runs stock at.
You would be far better to get an 850XT for the small price difference, thats what I did and it runs great as a XTPE

SPHERE

05-13-2005, 04:07 AM

there is no lasercut on the x850 pro see

dark_lava_lizard

05-14-2005, 08:40 PM

there is no lasercut on the x850 pro see

Wait, so you bought the model you have in your above link and the pipelines weren't cut? Did it have 1.6 ns memory? Did you succesfully get it softmodded?

gR3iF

05-14-2005, 09:33 PM

2.0 ns ram isnt on any x850pro but i know that some have 1.8 ram and it depends on resseler what you get

SPHERE

05-21-2005, 09:48 PM

Wait, so you bought the model you have in your above link and the pipelines weren't cut? Did it have 1.6 ns memory? Did you succesfully get it softmodded?no i bought that as a xt and flashed ;)

and no there isnt a lasercut on any x850 u can see in the pic but im wandering if anyone knows about any one peerforming the mod as of yet?

2.0 ns ram isnt on any x850pro but i know that some have 1.8 ram and it depends on resseler what you get
1.8ns ram :confused:

vedderx

07-01-2005, 06:24 AM

I just recently picked up a Asus X850 Pro VIVO - has ANYONE tried this? There seems to be no information on this at all.

SPHERE

07-01-2005, 08:09 AM

well i have learned alot since then :) and i now do not think it is possable but if ya wanna try it i can help ya

btw im lookin for a pro bios can u post yours? (use ati tool to dump it :))

and also if u get the chance id like to compair the pro with my x850xtpe some high res pics of the front and back of the pcb would help me out alot :)

Winterwind

07-05-2005, 07:30 PM

i have ordered Club3D X850PRO, it should have 1,6ns mem.
so is it true that you cant mod it to XT? it has same R480 core on it..

but we'll find out soon what this card is..
i have owned X800PRO with 12pipes and i did get some very nice scores out of it
R480 should oc a bit better and my hopes are high :)
the X700PRO wr @ 3dmark 2005 isnt enough, gotta own everyone with X850PRO aswell :p

SPHERE

07-05-2005, 09:33 PM

doesnt look verry good dude :( but we can try :)

Winterwind

07-08-2005, 07:02 PM

doesnt look verry good dude :( but we can try :)

btw, how far does this card oc? with 12 pipes...
stock wo vmods and water/decent aircooling + vmods? :confused:

Quazi

07-09-2005, 01:56 PM

There's really no telling how well any card will oc. The best oc'ing card I have ever owned was an X800Pro non-VIVO from Sapphire. I got it to 555/585, and this was up from its' stock 475/450, and on air to boot. I just flashed this X850XT last night to an XTPE. It won't do over 550MHz on the core, before or after the flash. Hell, I have heard of some cards that would not oc no more than a couple of MHz from there stock clocks. Talking about some m8's being pissed, geesh! Here thay purchase this card because they have read where others have been able to overclock it really well, only to get theirs and their screen starts going crazy only from going up 2MHz in clock speed. HEHE Kinda funny in a sick way. HEHE But, you never know until you get what you get.

SPHERE

07-09-2005, 03:07 PM

yep they are all diferent but id expect something betwene 570 and 610 core and 630-640 mem (if its 1.6ns) :)

Winterwind

07-09-2005, 04:18 PM

:D yep they are all diferent but id expect something betwene 570 and 610 core and 630-640 mem (if its 1.6ns) :)

ok, it benches @ 610/630 :D
stock cooling and no extra fans..
ati tray tools said it max safe gpu 628mhz and max safe mem 644mhz

kinda good ;)

some 3dmarks @ stock:

3D Mark 2003:
Venice 3200+ @ def
2 x 256mb Corsair BH5 @ 200mhz / 2-2-2-5
DFI nF4
Club 3D Radeon X850PRO @ def

3DMark Score 10783

3D Mark 2005:
Venice 3200+ @ def
2 x 256mb Corsair BH5 @ 200mhz / 2-2-2-5
DFI nF4
Club 3D Radeon X850PRO @ def

3DMark Score 5277

oc:

3D Mark 2003:
Venice 3200+ @ def
2 x 256mb Corsair BH5 @ 200mhz / 2-2-2-5
DFI nF4
Club 3D Radeon X850PRO 506/519 @ 610/630

3DMark Score 12340

3D Mark 2005:
Venice 3200+ @ def
2 x 256mb Corsair BH5 @ 200mhz / 2-2-2-5
DFI nF4
Club 3D Radeon X850PRO 506/519 @ 610/630

3DMark Score 6246

water + vmods soon, 700mhz gpu here we come

Quazi

07-10-2005, 03:20 AM

Actually that is abnormally great clock speeds. In checking the voltages on this X850XT before the flash to XT PE, I noticed the vmemvoltage was 2.09v. It is supposed to be 2.00v's according to the guide here at TechPowerup. I believe this is why my memory will clock to 610MHz when the chips are rated for 600MHz. I was hoping that flashing it to an XT PE would allow me to oc the core a bit more, but it didn't. I have been thinking about doing a pencil vmod on the vcore. Right now the core voltages is 1.41v. That voltage didn't change after the flash. After reading the guide to vmod the X850, I notice that these newer cards has an over voltage protect and the resistor that regulates this is R1596. If I raise the voltage on the core to 1.49v to 1.51v's, I don't think I would need to worry about bringing the resistance down on the R1596 resistor. If I wanted to go any higher, then I may very well need to. But bottom line here is that your card is an incredible oc'er. Congrats!

SPHERE

07-10-2005, 06:18 AM

ur mem oc is actualy kinda low mine gets to 635 stable :) with no mods :) quazi what did u say u got on the core?

btw i think he was saying 610 core 630 mem :)

Quazi

07-10-2005, 06:41 AM

ur mem oc is actualy kinda low mine gets to 635 stable :) with no mods :) quazi what did u say u got on the core?

btw i think he was saying 610 core 630 mem :)

My core won't do but 555MHz and this is pushing it. Anything over and it crashes. My vcore voltages is 1.41v's. Can you check to see what you are running at. I have been thinking about bumping it up to 1.55v's. I ran my last card there. It bit the dust after 6 months, but I am not sure why. It just quit allowing the cpu to post. If I do a vmod on the vcore, I may just bump it to 1.5v's. Just curious as to what your stock core volts are?

Winterwind

07-10-2005, 08:32 AM

hi guys..
i did run 3dmark 05 @ 620/640 wo any artifacts yesterday.
no extra cooling on the card..
i also oc-d cpu to 10x245 and mem to 245mhz / 2-2-2-5

so, the score was over 6,5k
pretty impressive, it blows my vmoded X800PRO record by ~150points ;)
with water, vmod and decent ramsinks ill try to get pass 7k :p

afterall, 3dmark 05 likes me, i had X700PRO wr pretty long time in my hands
but not anymore - but hey, i have my X700PRO and winter is coming :D

SPHERE

07-10-2005, 08:51 AM

My core won't do but 555MHz and this is pushing it. Anything over and it crashes. My vcore voltages is 1.41v's. Can you check to see what you are running at. I have been thinking about bumping it up to 1.55v's. I ran my last card there. It bit the dust after 6 months, but I am not sure why. It just quit allowing the cpu to post. If I do a vmod on the vcore, I may just bump it to 1.5v's. Just curious as to what your stock core volts are?
should be the same as all xts/xtpes what is that btw?

Quazi

07-10-2005, 09:05 AM

should be the same as all xts/xtpes what is that btw?

Well, this is true. But I was hoping yours was higher than mine to explain your great oc on your core. Wishful thinking eh? HEHE Stock core voltage on this X850 is 1.41v's. And now that I think about it, the stock core voltage on my X800XT was also 1.41v's. So I'd say you are correct.

Stock voltage on the memory is supposed to be 2.00v's. And it was on my X800XT. But this one is running at 2.09v's, which probably is what is allowing me to clock my memory to 611MHz, which is still way lower than yours and the other m8's. Btw, are you water cooling? If you are, this could explain it and I wouldn't feel as if I got a lemon for oc'ing. HEHE

Winterwind

07-10-2005, 10:58 AM

Venice 3200+ @ 9x270 / 1,6v
2 x Corsair BH5 @ 270mhz / 2-2-2-5 / 3,5v
DFI nF4
Club3D X850PRO @ default

3DMark Score 27772
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8643754

nice score :D
ill try oc the card now...
mine 620mhz gpu and 640mhz mem was with stock cooling, no extra fans, nothing ;)

edit:
check this out:

Venice 3200+ @ 9x270
2 x 256mb Corsair BH5 @ 270mhz / 2-2-2-5
DFI nF4
Club3D X850PRO 506/519 @ 620/640

3DMark 2005 Score 6495
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1011593

:D

edit2:

Venice 3200+ @ 9x270
2 x 256mb Corsair BH5 @ 270mhz / 2-2-2-5
DFI nF4
Club3D X850PRO 506/519 @ 620/640

3DMark 2003 Score 13320
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4103616

Quazi

07-10-2005, 01:21 PM

Excellent oc on the 3200+ m8. WOW! And a 270MHz FSB! This shows you have one heck of a mobo/memory combo m8. Congrats! The best I have done on my rig was 265MHz FSB @ 2.4GHz X 10 on air.

Winterwind

07-10-2005, 02:38 PM

Excellent oc on the 3200+ m8. WOW! And a 270MHz FSB! This shows you have one heck of a mobo/memory combo m8. Congrats! The best I have done on my rig was 265MHz FSB @ 2.4GHz X 10 on air.

actually the cpu is too crap, i hoped it can do 2800mhz but no, it cant get pass 2600mhz :(
mem is pretty good, it does that with 3,5v and it should go a bit higher(280mhz would be nice :D )
mobo in crappy too - it does all kind a tricks that i dont like..

btw the PRO to XT mod is 100% impossible?

edit: heh, 3dmark 03 and 05 wr-s are mine :D
and it took less than day...

SPHERE

07-11-2005, 06:22 AM

btw the PRO to XT mod is 100% impossible? 90% shure that if u went out and bought one that it would not mod to 16 pipes;) but im 80% shure that it would flash to a 12 pipe xtpe :D

Winterwind

07-15-2005, 08:54 PM

¤ Venice 3200+ @ 10x245=2450mhz
¤ 2 x Corsair XMS PC3500 BH5 @ 245mhz / 2-2-2-5
¤ DFI nF4 ULTRA-D
¤ Club3D X850PRO 506/519 @ 634/648
¤ Stock cooling, no vmods, 12 pipelines:)

3DMark 2005 Score 6601
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1028919

new wr :D

Winterwind

07-26-2005, 11:23 AM

vmods now :p

edit:

¤ Venice 3200+ @ 10x245=2450mhz
¤ 2 x Corsair XMS PC3500 BH5 @ 245mhz / 2-2-2-5
¤ DFI nF4 ULTRA-D
¤ Club3D X850PRO 506/519 @ 660/675
¤ Radeon vmoded and watercooled, max temp 47C
¤ 12 pipelines!

3DMark Score 6848
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1073137

vmod didnt help much :( :mad:

edit:

¤ Venice 3200+ @ 10x245=2450mhz
¤ 2 x Corsair XMS PC3500 BH5 @ 245mhz / 2-2-2-5
¤ DFI nF4 ULTRA-D
¤ Club3D X850PRO 506/519 @ 651/672
¤ Radeon vmoded and watercooled, max temp 47C
¤ 12 pipelines!

3DMark Score 14084
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4149894

Winterwind

07-29-2005, 09:26 PM

¤ Venice 3200+ @ 10x255=2550mhz
¤ 2 x Corsair XMS PC3500 BH5 @ 255mhz / 2-2-2-5
¤ DFI nF4 ULTRA-D
¤ Club3D X850PRO 506/519 @ 661/675
¤ Radeon vmoded and watercooled, max temp 47C
¤ 12 pipelines!

3DMark Score 6922
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1073443

sorry about "hattrick" :o

edit:

¤ Venice 3200+ @ 10x255=2550mhz
¤ 2 x Corsair XMS PC3500 BH5 @ 255mhz / 2-2-2-5
¤ DFI nF4 ULTRA-D
¤ Club3D X850PRO 506/519 @ 648/668
¤ Radeon vmoded and watercooled, max temp 47C
¤ 12 pipelines!

3DMark Score 14243
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=4149953

SPHERE

07-30-2005, 12:05 AM

Winterwind

07-30-2005, 08:37 AM

omfg!!! :eek:

i realy need to vmod...

actually they didint help alot..
wo vmods i could bench 650/650

card power line is phucked up, they have removed 4 transistors and 2 condensators
compared too X850XT..
so, stuff that remained gets too hot and rising vgpu doesnt help at all...

but i think i could push mem a bit more, because its just 2.3v at the moment :D
and vgpu is 1,51v

but we'll try solder these "missing parts" back sometime and try to get gpu to 700mhz or more
because gpu is animal, just "power line" sux at the moment :mad:

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/1254/x850pro2bt.th.jpg (http://img120.imageshack.us/my.php?image=x850pro2bt.jpg)

my card