View Full Version : 0.24 beta 9
W1zzard
04-25-2005, 07:46 PM
- video card detection problem fixed (bus# > 8)
- temperature monitoring and fan control works on x800 aiw now
- beep on artifact defaults to enabled on new installations
Gzero
04-25-2005, 08:30 PM
I get:
Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster
When trying to download atitool.
Yuck, firefox is screwing up for this download, will keep trying. But Internet explorer can download it.
Nah ignore me it seems fine now.
jsname1
04-25-2005, 09:01 PM
running "find max core" right now - seems to be working just fine - i'll reply if anything else goes wrong but that definetly seemed to have done the trick! thanks again!
zaitsev
04-25-2005, 10:37 PM
Hi,
I have radeon 9800pro and catalyst 5.4.
In version 0.22 ATI tool has found no errors for 22min (clocks are at normal settings - no oc).
In version 0.23 it finds "Delta in 1 pixel.." every times i run the test.. I have second card (9800pro), because old has died.. And when i have old there was this error too! So, maybe the second card has the same problems or it's something wrong with ATI tool.
In version 0.24 beta 9 program reports no errors, but.. i see them. Sometimes i can see yellow or white dots, but ATI tool still shows "no errors for.. " and doesn't report it in logs.
What do you think about it? Can it be video card fault or program?
Greetings
W1zzard
04-25-2005, 10:47 PM
0.23 introduced a new "heat generation engine" (new scanning method).
many users reported these 1 pixel errors, thats why the default settings is to ignore all 1 pixel errors (settings -> detection, sensitivity is one notch to the right)
i'm not sure myself if the 1 pixel errors are caused by higher heat output of by a program bug
Klimpen
04-26-2005, 05:41 AM
Hi W1zzard, in beta8 you stated "- Removed motherboard monitoring stuff, goes into SysTool"
Whats about that??
I use the function to send sensor 0 and 1 to MBM and it is still there so what are you meaning by removed??
W1zzard
04-26-2005, 08:42 AM
motherboard monitoring = hardware monitoring tab which was in settings to monitor your board temps from atitool etc..
video card monitoring stays as it is
Klimpen
04-26-2005, 09:50 AM
Thats cool, got a bit worried there *smile*
I use ATITool to export to MBM sensor 4 and 5 and then use Samurize to show temps on my scren gathered from MBM.
So I have a neat little windows showing 7 temps from my watercooled system.
Two most important temps are the two from ATITool, so I know that I have low temps on my presssssious ATI X850XT @ 615/615
Bronko
04-26-2005, 05:30 PM
Standby doesn't work.... My PC isn't waking up. There are a lot of pixels, but then comes a reboot...
DudesBoss
04-26-2005, 11:09 PM
everything works dandy
nice work wizz.
propaganda
04-26-2005, 11:20 PM
maybe its just me but i've been having the same problem since 0.24 beta started.
I get an error reading "Error during Direct3d Init." when i try to startup 3d view.
Radeon 9800 NonPro
Pentium 4 3.0GHz Northwood
W1zzard
04-26-2005, 11:35 PM
bronko: what are your system specs?
Bronko
04-27-2005, 03:22 PM
ASUS A8n SLI Deluxe
AMD 3000+ OC
X800 XT PE ++ ( Catalyst 5.4 CCC , maybe the problem?? )
....
Beta 8 works after standby but only with the default fan speed settings.
but my system crashes in 0.23 and Beta 9 !!
Klimpen
04-27-2005, 04:21 PM
Bronko and W1zzard, I have quite the same rig and all works fine for me.
Asus A8N SLI Deluxe (with BIOS 1007-004 Beta)
AMD 3500+
X850 XT Catalyst 5.4 (without the .net)
I hope this can help a bit. I have actually tried all beta and only got one problem with b7 where temp pending from 0 to real value.
FnFnF
04-27-2005, 06:31 PM
Hello W1zzard,
Remember my problems with the lastest ATiTools? From the 1st Beta till Beta 8?
In this new version it has been fixed :) Now ATiTool detects my clocks and my vidcard.
Couldnt find this one in the changelog, so maybe u changed anything else?
And there is another problem, I have many times that I see temp 0 and temp 20. The last good working ATiTool was 0.22 for me with tempmonitoring. Dunno what has been changed in all those settings, but the tempmonitoring has a little bug. There are also more ppl with the same problem.
9800Pro@XT, XT Layout, LM63.
Bronko
04-27-2005, 07:24 PM
ok, i have solved the problem with Standby...
Beta 9 works!!!
testemo
04-27-2005, 08:53 PM
0.23 introduced a new "heat generation engine" (new scanning method).
many users reported these 1 pixel errors, thats why the default settings is to ignore all 1 pixel errors (settings -> detection, sensitivity is one notch to the right)
i'm not sure myself if the 1 pixel errors are caused by higher heat output of by a program bug
Hi, first of all thanks for your work!!
i'm trying right know the beta and the max OC for my memory was 245mhz with the 0.23; now with the 0.24 beta 9 is up to 260mhz... is this because of the pixel you told? can I trust the beta Ati Tool? or is preferable using the old settings for everyday use?
I'll test the new settings in games and i'll let you know if i see artifact, for now i just wanted to report this difference with the beta ;)
R350np
04-27-2005, 10:21 PM
Jeah, works very fine for me. No Probs found jet.
Gzero
04-27-2005, 10:29 PM
I found a PROBLEM.
I have just got my new 6800gt OC, now I can't resume from standby with atitool beta9 installed.
Also I know its called atitool, but could you add support for monitoring temps for nvidia cards too. you never know you might end with a program that could in the end overclock both types of card.
Keep up the good work. :)
W1zzard
04-27-2005, 11:01 PM
gzero: systool (see other forum here), currently in early development stages, is going to support both
actually nvidia overclocking and temperature monitoring works (more or less)
ati overclocking is implemented there as well, no temp monitoring yet, maybe next week
W1zzard
04-27-2005, 11:02 PM
ok, i have solved the problem with Standby...
Beta 9 works!!!
what was the problem?
studi
04-28-2005, 07:29 AM
0.24 beta 9 works perfect !
NO standby or hibernation problems like in 0.23.
great work :)
Bronko
04-28-2005, 12:32 PM
I reinstalled ATI-Tool, then i turned in stanby... but I have to wait for 30sec, then there is no problem, but after 10sec the pixels are back on my screen!!!
Maybe the System needs some time to be copmletely in standby mode...???!!
W1zzard
04-28-2005, 08:05 PM
you mean when you enter standby and immediately exit, there is screen corruption.
when you wait after standby for about 30 seconds and then exit standby it works without crash?
R350np
04-29-2005, 05:33 AM
Hi W1zzard
Today at boot I got the error: "No ATI card was detected in your system...". This was second or third time I get this error. After a reboot all is OK.
Sascha
Bronko
04-29-2005, 08:36 PM
@W1zzard Yes, but today I tested again, and there was no crash!! I don't understand that!!
And my Fan speed settings are still on default after standby!!
The "Mem" Button doesn't work! After pushing the Button, there are such strange Signs and then ATI-Tool crashs !!!
After sec Test:
I can decide between Standby without crash and default fan speeds, and standby with full crash and my fan speeds!!!
help ????
Stephen M. Smith
04-29-2005, 10:56 PM
Hey there. Long time no see! I've been happily enjoying each new beta. Nice work! I got a new video card (x850xt pe) and so now I'm busily trying to find my max gpu and mem speeds again.
Here's a little bug: if you specify a clock safety range and then run Find Max GPU or Mem and it get's to the point where it wants to lower the clock or mem below what you specified in the safety range, then the form gets stuck in a infinite loop. I say "form" because you can see the form flashing as if it's trying to lower the slider below the bottom limit but can't and keeps retrying.
Thanks,
Steve
Stephen M. Smith
04-29-2005, 11:02 PM
Also, can you and Ray Adams (ATI Tray Tool) get together and decide what the valid registry values are for Catalyst AI?? <g>
turbo098
04-30-2005, 10:46 AM
hello i'm new here and 0.24 beta 9 works great. i just like to know whats that Do not change PWM base frequency (x850) thing in the fan control tab.i have a x850tx.
W1zzard
04-30-2005, 01:23 PM
stephen: what i have as settings is valid i think, check using the ccc. i'll look into the limit issue
bronko: what is your card's deviceid?
Bronko
04-30-2005, 03:52 PM
sorry, english is my foreign language!!
What does deviceid mean???
He du kommst eh aus Stuttgart!!!
Morlak
05-01-2005, 10:33 AM
Really Nice job! works like a charm.
swraman
05-02-2005, 02:22 AM
hi,
Im trying to OC my Radeon 9200, but I am worried about overheating. I hae tried the last 2 releases of ATI Tool and the Brta Release 9, but none of tem show the temperature as shown in the screenshots.
does the 9200 just not have a sensor for temp monitoring?
opium
05-02-2005, 02:44 AM
hi,
Im trying to OC my Radeon 9200, but I am worried about overheating. I hae tried the last 2 releases of ATI Tool and the Brta Release 9, but none of tem show the temperature as shown in the screenshots.
does the 9200 just not have a sensor for temp monitoring?
AFAIK, 9200 doesn't support temp monitoring
W1zzard
05-02-2005, 06:13 AM
9200 has no support for temp monitoring
bronko: device id is listed under settings->oc, 4 digit hex number which identifies the chip series
Bronko
05-02-2005, 01:39 PM
Device ID = 5D57
R350np
05-02-2005, 07:12 PM
Hi W1zzard
I have a little Feature-Question:
What do you think about an Onscreen-Display, witch allows to shows GPU- and MEM-Speed, Temperatur, Screenresolution, Refreshrate of Display and/or FPS?
Sascha
detonate
05-02-2005, 10:00 PM
Hi. I just recently got a Powercolor x800xl. I can't get a temp read with the latest stable version or this beta build. This is the PCI-E one and it has dual DVI. Not sure if that helps (can't remember if they had 2 versions of this card). Chip is the R430. Thanks.
W1zzard
05-03-2005, 12:52 AM
r350np: definitely planned, i just have little time at the moment because of work on systool
detonate: does monitoring work with an older version or another oc tool?
Log420
05-03-2005, 01:59 AM
Just curious. Recently upgraded from normal release 0.22 to latest beta, and notice that all seems the same except in the 3d view/render window previously (0.22) avg'ed around 230 fps now with latest beta (0.24 beta 9 I believe) with same clock speed settings, etc the avg fps in the 3d window is approx. 150-160 in game performance seems the same, but just curious if this is actually performing as it was or if for some reason with the newer version of the tool it's not performing as well on teh beta as on the normal release. I have a softmodded 9800SE@Pro 256bit 8 pipelines clocked at 400/368. thanks for any ideas/advice/info.
twohype
05-03-2005, 02:46 AM
Outstanding everything seems to be working with by AIW 800XT now.
W1zzard
05-03-2005, 08:28 AM
the fps counter is not designed as benchmark .. if can give you a rough idea of performance change on your system with the same version, during an oc run for example
detonate
05-03-2005, 11:47 AM
The temp read on my x800xl powercolor is working. I had to restart twice, weird but I'm happy. Great program.
The fan controller doesn't work. I've an asus x800xl, but there's no control field for the fan controller.
If you cant understand this Post its my fool im german and i cant speak english very well :)
Bronko
05-03-2005, 07:31 PM
gibts da auch kein "override fan speed" ??
und dann "dynamic based..." ??
Versuchs einmal neu installieren, bei mir hats bei ein paar probs geholfen!!
Is there no "override fan speed" ??
and "dynamic based..." ??
Try to reinstall the prog, because some of my problems were gone after this!!
Hab gar kein Fenster für Fan Control.... hatte schon neu installiert.
Sag mal kann das sein, dass sich die GPU der Asus X800XL im Spiel nur um 5 Grad erhöht? Habe normal 51 und im Spiel höchstens 56 grad. Allerdings steigt die Temperatur von temp. chip von 37 auf 55 Grad.
Bronko
05-04-2005, 11:19 AM
hast du den standard lüfter drauf??
ja habe ich. Wie gesagt der Standartlüfter der Asus Extreme X800XL
Bronko
05-04-2005, 06:57 PM
Temperaturen kommen mir etwas tief vor für den Lüfter!! Was sagt Everest??
Everest zeigt gar nichts über meine Grafikkarte an!
Bronko
05-05-2005, 11:57 AM
Hast die Beta oder die 151 Version??
Nimm die Beta....
woher bekomm ich die?
*edit*
habs nun.
Everst zeigt mir normal GPU Temp vom 51 Grad und Grafikspeicher von 40 Grad an...unter Last GPU mit 56 Grad und Speicher mit 55 Grad.
Bronko
05-05-2005, 06:36 PM
Is klar, weil ATI-Tool keine Standart Lüfter unterstüzt!!!
Es haut nur mit dem AS hin!!! is mir jetzt ers eingefallen...
Mussels
05-06-2005, 07:44 AM
Hi. I just recently got a Powercolor x800xl. I can't get a temp read with the latest stable version or this beta build. This is the PCI-E one and it has dual DVI. Not sure if that helps (can't remember if they had 2 versions of this card). Chip is the R430. Thanks.
i know you said it was working for you, i have that card and the reason it does that.
if you upgrade from an older (0.22 or lower) ATI tool to the newer one, temp monitoring and fan control tabs dont always appear, you need to not save OC settings/profiles and do a clean install and all will go well.
ojaneka
05-06-2005, 03:34 PM
I have CLUB3D X800 pro vivo (moded 16 pipes, working), CCC 5.4.
When i want to scan for artifacts @ 523/523 clocks, the clocks jumps to 548/548? The CCC says the same 548/548. While writing this post at the first time and scanning AF and trying to verify the clocks with Everest 1.51 the machine crashed...
I used before CCC 5.4, 5.4 Omega drivers and ati tool 0.24b9, that combination was the best so far (3DMark05 6142pts, and smooth games @ 524/524) BUT IT WORKED COUPLE OF DAYS untill TOTAL CRASH. Re install windows was a MUST.
So im shiftin back to an older ati tool..
65tweet
05-07-2005, 10:42 AM
I’m getting memory artifacts when using version 0.24b9 clocking my X800 XT to 520/560. This was never a problem with version .22. 3D mark 03/05, Aquamark and Doom all ran flawlessly. Top over clock was 542/563 stable :p . Starting with version .23 top memory over clock was about 540 and the artifacts were visible in Doom3 at times. I haven’t played Doom yet with the new version to see if artifacts are visible and will get back to you. I took a quick look at the memory settings in version .22 before uninstalling and the timings looked like they may be different. I didn’t write them down so I can’t be positive sorry. I’m using ATI 5.3 Cat at the moment no CCC. BTW core OC is still 542 :D
W1zzard
05-07-2005, 11:09 AM
0.0.23 and 0.24 beta use an improved stress test for more heat.. try with "use old scanning method" in the scanning if that gives you the results of 0.0.22
if you see artifacts in doom at lower speeds than before you might want to check your case airflow, and ambient temperature (hey it's getting summer)
hi all .
I got my self the sapp x850xt.pe.. and have been useing the latest beta ati tool . the fans are working fine but if i click to go to the memory settings it is all just coobligash.. and the tool locks up and i get error report for microsoft.. any ideas.. :)
shawn.
05-07-2005, 06:50 PM
Just curious how to get the heat monitor running. Im using a radeon x 800 xl
shawn.
05-07-2005, 07:13 PM
never mind figured it out
sparkymatt
05-08-2005, 01:12 AM
I have the Standby problem with the latest Beta. Computer goes into Standby without a problem but will not wake up. Even if left for over an hour, it still will not wake up. I get some hard drive activity but nothing else.
Gone back to 23 until this is fixed.
mikeguava
05-08-2005, 04:04 AM
Hi
got a Sapp X800 Pro VIVO PCI-E - as soon as I hit the mem button - garbled message comes up . I close the mem section ATI-TOOL crashes. With a ATI X850XT I do not have that problem.
ANy thoughts? I'd like to change the mem timings on my X800...
hi again.
anyone noticed when you installl the ati beta tool version .0.24.9 ,that after a couple of rboots the overdrive stops showing up in the 5.4 ccc..? or is it just my system anyone else? :)...
sys specs sapphire x850xt-pe ps. the new omega 5.4 wont work at all on my card they wont even install... any one else had this and they messed my registery up but sorted it with bkup???? :eek:
Hi
got a Sapp X800 Pro VIVO PCI-E - as soon as I hit the mem button - garbled message comes up . I close the mem section ATI-TOOL crashes. With a ATI X850XT I do not have that problem.
ANy thoughts? I'd like to change the mem timings on my X800...
..
same as you :(
W1zzard
05-08-2005, 05:12 PM
nw17 whats the device id of the card?
hello i was wondering...i use ati tool a long time now and i like it but there is only one thing that anoise me. Everytime that i reboot or start my comp i have to adjust the clockfreqs that i want my card to run at over and over again. My question is why isn't it possible to save the preffered settings also after rebooting? I would like that very much can anybody help me on this??
thanks
R350np
05-08-2005, 09:29 PM
...why isn't it possible to save the preffered settings also after rebooting?...
thanks
Hello runo
First Step:
You must create a profil: Select core and mem-clock you want, klick set clock, then klick on new and type in a name for your new profile.
Second Step:
Klick on settings, choose Statup in the dropdown-list, enable "Every time ATITool is launched, load profile:" and select your created profil.
Now every time ATITool is launched, your profile with your saved settings will be loaded.
Sascha
hay wizzard.
sorry been out last day the device id is 4b4c :o
W1zzard
05-11-2005, 02:30 PM
beta 10 out here: http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=3184
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