s939 Opterons with LCB9E steppings pretty good!

[noneed4me2]

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=193096 , alot of folks are saying that theses are actually rebadged X2s but looking at the numbers so far these are doing pretty good. Idles at 36c loads at 52c on air. 6 hours stale in orthos beta. I will try for 3 later.

[newtekie1]

Not really that big of a deal, my X2 does 3GHz on a Zalman 9500, load is about 55c after 8 hours of orthos testing. The only reason I run it at 2.8GHz is because my RAM won't go past the 250MHz mark without really high timings and a lot of voltage and I hate not running 1:1. But the chip will do it if I wanted it too.

In reality all the Opterons are just rebadged X2s, they are just usually binned higher so they withstand more stress. Sometimes you get a good overclocker with an X2, sometime you get a bad overclocker with an Opteron, it is all just a luck thing. Opterons increase your chances of having good luck, but at the core they are the same chip as an X2.

[noneed4me2]

Just out of curiousity how does AMD rebadge a proccessor? I thought they were laser stamped. I have heard others say this and was wondering how it was done. PLus what would be the purpose of this as pretty much all 939 cpus could be bought at any retail outfit. Does the opteron sell better or something? What about boards that couldn't run opterons?

[Wile E]

He just means that they are actually the same cores. When they test the new cpus, the best ones get branded as opterons, the rest as X2s.

[mandelore]

my previous opty 185 was the lcb9e stepping and easily did 3.1Ghz on a very minor voltage increase, was pretty damn nice till it died on me

[noneed4me2]

He just means that they are actually the same cores. When they test the new cpus, the best ones get branded as opterons, the rest as X2s.

I got that, but I have read in other forums "rebadged" is either changing the IHS on the cpu or changing the name. I also know what binning is but what I was wondering is how the rebadging is done. I get that a 939 X2 4800 w/2x1mb L2 cache can be the same as say a 180 Opteron, but people are saying that X2 3800s are being turned into Opterons by adding cache, or a SanDiego with an added core. All I thought was once a cpu is finished manufactured it is done. It can't be renamed or re-engineered into something else. Am I wrong? Alot of people are saying the LCB9E opterons started out as X2s then "rebadged" as opterons to sell them better. The reason I was posting my overclock was to show that maybe they are not as bad as the CCBWE steppings.

[Wile E]

I got that, but I have read in other forums "rebadged" is either changing the IHS on the cpu or changing the name. I also know what binning is but what I was wondering is how the rebadging is done. I get that a 939 X2 4800 w/2x1mb L2 cache can be the same as say a 180 Opteron, but people are saying that X2 3800s are being turned into Opterons by adding cache, or a SanDiego with an added core. All I thought was once a cpu is finished manufactured it is done. It can't be renamed or re-engineered into something else. Am I wrong? Alot of people are saying the LCB9E opterons started out as X2s then "rebadged" as opterons to sell them better. The reason I was posting my overclock was to show that maybe they are not as bad as the CCBWE steppings.No, you're right. He didn't mean rebadged literally, only that they are binned X2s. He just used rebadged instead of binned.