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_33

07-22-2006, 06:54 PM

Here are the latest scores found on ExtremeTech (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1988800,00.asp) They might serve as a reference for your own performance score.

DOWNLOAD (http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/170)

Here is my score (first time bench):

_33

07-30-2006, 11:53 PM

Newer score, lower memory bandwidth thoe. Can't win them all.

tigger

07-31-2006, 01:58 PM

heres mine-http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/a26222science%20markt228.jpg

Casheti

07-31-2006, 02:13 PM

How long does a full benchmark take?

tigger

07-31-2006, 02:18 PM

5 mins if that

JdPower

07-31-2006, 03:49 PM

BEWARE: Newb question a'comin! haha.

Whats this to benchmark for? Entire system? Sorry... :laugh:

Jd

Alec§taar

07-31-2006, 04:14 PM

UPDATED

**********************************************
SCIENCEMARK 2.0 RESULTS 19/12/2006 "TOP 10" CLUB:
**********************************************

* 1.) dominick32 = 2386 (Intel Core2Duo E6700@4410mhz)

* 2.) sirrah = 2288.30 (Intel Core2Duo E6400@4166mhz)[/b]

* 3.) giorgos th. = 2224.21 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3903mhz)

* 4.) alpha0ne = 2223.24 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3900mhz)

* 5.) Devious = 2181.97 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3942mhz)

* 6.) OneCool = 2165.41 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3900mhz)

* 7.) DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E = 2154.27 (Intel Core 2 duo e6400@3824.5mhz)

* 8.) tigger69 = 2151.58 (Intel Core2Duo E6300@3851.4mhz)

* 9.) Infrared = 2137.37 (Intel Core2Duo E6400@3700mhz)

* 10.) IluvIntel = 2133.59 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3595.5mhz)

=================================================
TOP 10 AVERAGE RESULT =
=================================================

**************************************************
SCIENCEMARK 2.0 RESULTS 08/25/2006 (ALL outside TOP 10):
**************************************************

* 11.) HeavyH20 = 2122.43 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3600mhz)

* 12.) Boneface = 2100.29 (INTEL CORE2DUO E6400 @3850mhz)

* 13.) VOCCH = 1971.06 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3500mhz)

* 14.) g R 3 i F = 1944.00 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3402mhz)

* 15.) MikeLopez = 1934.6 (Intel Core2Duo E6300@3290mhz)

* 16.) Bonerheimer_c = 1905.22 (Intel Core2Duo E6400@3504.1mhz)

* 17.) Heavyh20 = 1900.66 (Intel Core2Duo QX6700@3600mhz)

* 18.) Chewy = 1897.74 (Intel Core2Duo E6300@3150mhz)

* 19.) SixPack = 1862.31 Intel Core2Duo E6600@3300mhz)

* 20.) BigBadWolf = 1834.06 (Intel Core2Duo E6300@3300mhz)

* 21.) Lt_JWS = 1821.18 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3400mhz)

* 22.) W2hCYK = 1813.82 (Intel Core2Duo E6600@3300mhz)

* 23.) LT Jws = 1799.60 (Intel Core2Duo E6300@3304mhz)

* 24.) ixq = 1770.14 (Intel Core2Duo E6400@3640mhz)

* 25.) HeUeR = 1745.07 (Intel Core2Duo E6300@3010mhz)

* 26.) Pepsiaddict = 1736.57 (Athlon64 X2 5200+ @3000mhz)

* 27.) speedycpu = 1702.46 (AMD Opteron 165@ 3204.7mhz )

* 28.) mandelore = 1665.51 (Athlon64 4000+@3193.0mhz)

* 29.) trt740 = 1662.43 (AMD opteron 185@3064mhz)

* 30.) cadaceva = 1648.73 (AMD Opteron 170@ 3097.3mhz)

* 31.) Judas = 1638.38 (AMD Athlon 64x2 4600+@ 2884mhz)

* 32.) Ketxxx = 1622.16 (Athlon 3500+@2900mhz)

* 33.) stevorob = 1614.95 (AHTLON X2 4200+@2800mhz)

* 34.) _33 = 1584.73 (Opteron 165@2800mhz)

* 35.) Wolverine = 1553.53 (A64 3700+ SD @ 3ghz (300x10)

* 36.) Wile E = 1555.33 (AHTLON X2 3800+@2849mhz)

* 37.) AthlonX2 = 1541.87 (AMD ATHLON 64 x2 3800+@2660mhz)

* 38.) giorgos.th = 1541.53 (A64 3700+ SD @ 3047.02mhz(275.49*11)

* 39.) Urlyin = 1537.93 (175 Dual Core Opteron @2800mhz)

* 40.) Tatty_One = 1521.08 (Athlon 4000+@3100mhz)

* 41.) DRDNA = 1504.98 (AMD Athlon 64 FX-57@3148mhz)

* 42.) trt740 = 1502.73 (AMD Opteron 175@2757mhz)

* 43.) pt = 1496.75 (AMD A64 3000+@2854.8mhz)

* 44.) RickDStik = 1489.45 (Athlon x2 4200 @ 2.70GHz)

* 45.) DRDNA = 1480.38 (AMD FX-57@3ghz)

* 46.) mikek75 = 1478.24 (Opteron 165 2700mhz)

* 47.) ace80 = 1467.87 (Intel Pentium 4 631@4957.1mhz)

* 48.) Dj Dn = 1461.97 (Opteron 165 2700mhz)

* 49.) X800 = 1459.10 (A64 x2 4800+ watercooled @2751mhz)

* 50.) g12rxz = 1456.09 (AMD A64x2 4200+ @ 2.6ghz)

* 51.) Tigger69 = 1448.51 (Pentium D930@4416.8mhz)

* 52.) Alec§taar = 1440.60 (AMD A64x2 4800+@ 11x 257 = 2827.2mhz)

* 53.) DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E = 1429.10 (Intel Pentium 4 520@4410mhz)

* 54.) lapenski = 1426.95 (AMD Opteron 148 @2860.4mhz)

* 55.) JNT Raptor = 1422.72 (AMD A64x2 3800+@2712.1mhz)

* 56.) 33 = 1395.99 (AMD A64 3000+@2856mhz)

* 57.) trt740 = 1378.89 (AMD A64x2 3800+@2500mhz)

* 58.) Ketxxx = 1374.96 (A64 3200+ @ 2.65GHz - VENICE

* 59.) Lekamies = 1371.23 (AMD A64 3000+@2700mhz)

* 60.) Steevo = 1360 (AMD 4000+ San Diego @ 3.0 1.65vcore)

* 61.) mrbudgie = 1348.42 (AMD ATHLON 64 x2 4200+@2500mhz)

* 62.) sno.lcn = 1342.76(Intel Pentium D930@4056.8mhz)

* 63.) Greek = 1336.74 (AMD ATHLON 64 x2 4200+@2640mhz)

* 64.) Ninkobwi = 1324.19 (AMD ATHLON 64 x2 3800+@2500mhz)

* 65.) .:{KC}:. = 1313.31 (AMD ATHLON 64 FX55@2800mhz)

* 66.) ace80 = 1290.8 (P4 630@4356.5GHz)

* 67.) PVTCaboose1337 = 1285.43 (AMD ATHLON 3800+@stock)

* 68.) i_am_mustang_man = 1284.06 (AMD ATHLON X2 4200+ @2.5ghz)

* 69.) Wile E = 1251.20 (Intel Mobile core 2 duo T7600@2330mhz)

* 70.) KennyT772 = 1243.51 (AMD ATHLON 3200+@2600mhz) (pending screesnhot)

* 71.) wazzledoozle = 1236.07 (AMD ATHLON 3200+@2400mhz)

* 72.) insect111 = 1232.80 (Intel Pentium D945@4025mhz)

* 73.) zekrahminator = 1232.11 (AMD ATHLON 3800+@2699mhz)

* 74.) blacktruckryder = 1227.88 (AMD ATHLON 3200+@2650mhz)

* 75.) pt = 1216.14 (AMD AM2 Sempron 3000+@2500MHZ)

* 76.) Canuto = 1208.45 (Pentium D 930 @3720mhz)

* 77.) randomperson = 1208.27 (AMD ATHLONx2 3800+@2400mhz)

* 78.) Alcpone = 1208.08 (Pentium D 945 @3777mhz)

* 79.) Polaris573 = 1182.10 (P4 prescott@3.989GHz)

* 80.) ace80 = 1163.96 (P4 550@3870.5GHz)

* 81.) amd64skater = 1143.37 (AMD Athlon64 (NewCastle) 3500+@2420)

* 82.) Okt = 1134.24 (Intel E6300@1.8ghz)

* 83.) strick94u = 1123.30 (Pentium D820@3.6ghz)

* 84.) newmodder = 1119.29 (AMD Athlon64 3500+ 205fsb x 11 mult)

* 85.) cdawall = 1115.34 (AMD ATHLON64 3000+@2439mhz)

* 86.) oily_17 = 1104.22 (Amd Athlon 64 3200+@2290mhz)

* 87.) Thermopylae_480 = 1095.84 (P4 530@3699.9GHz)

* 88.) jiggamanjb = 1090.67 (AMD ATHLON64 3000+@2679mhz)

* 89.) Demos_sav = 1074.06 (Intel P4 519K@3.8ghz)

* 90.) Polaris573 = 1040.76 (P4 Northwood@3.2GHz)

* 91.) Polaris573 = 1016.19 (Amd Athlon 64 3000+@2350mhz)

* 92.) W2hCYK = 1011.54 (P4 Prescott@3400mhz)

* 93.) MikeLopez = 1000.03 (AMD ATHLON 3400+ (S754)

* 94.) ATIonion = 994.96 (Amd Athlon 64 3200+@2419.7mhz)

* 95.) Cdawall = 968.86 (Pentium D 930@3000MHz)

* 96.) Paradox = 958.22 (AMD Opteron 165@1800MHz)

* 97.) new_rez = 952.59 (Pentium 4 2.8 northwood@ 3.1ghz)

* 98.) Cdawall = 942.11 (Celeron 351@4032mhz)

* 99.) Cdawall = 939.94 (Pentium 4 ht @ 3.2ghz)

* 100.) DaMulta = 937.81 (AMD ATHLONXP@2203.4MHZ)

* 101.) Casheti = 931.40 (Pentium D 920@2800.80MHz)

* 102.) Solaris17 = 886.72 (AMD ATHLONXP@2340MHZ)

* 103.) Twinz = 852.66 (AMD ATHLON64 3700+@2532MHZ)

* 104.) badboy_2912 = 757.4 (P4 Northwood@2.8GHz)

* 105.) DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E = 414.86 (Intel Celeron@1.7ghz)

=================================================
AverAge 95 non-top 10 testers =
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Post your scores on the wiki too:
http://reference.techpowerup.com/ScienceMark_2.0_Scores

Sciencemark was run on hundred and two computers and the comprovation screenshot posted here
105

P.S.=> Achilles from the film "TROY", said it best:

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/sep2004/7/5/0009E6F2-85D7-115A-A19D80C328EC0000.jpg

"Is there NO ONE ELSE!?!"

:)

==================================================
When you guys run the ScienceMark 2.0 test? Do it THIS way:
==================================================
A.) Remove as MANY BACKGROUND APPS RUNNING AS YOU CAN, & even stop your EXPLORER.EXE SHELL using taskmgr.exe!

* An example post of someone doing this is here you can refer to & follow, has details, for BACKGROUND APPS CUTOFFS OPTIMIZATIONS:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=140138#post140138
---------------------------------------------------------------
B.) Stop as many services as you can using services.msc (or, via msconfig, whatever you are most comfortable with): You (@ least I can) can run with this MINIMUM SET OF SERVICES GOING (or just set ones you are NOT SURE OF, to MANUAL startup in services.msc):

DCOM Server Process (it may be possible to DISABLE this one, but some apps need it)
EventLog (may be possible to disable, but not 100% sure, because some security settings demand logging & if unable to log? System WILL shutdown!)
Plug and Play
Remote Procedure Call (RPC) - NEVER SHUT THIS DOWN or your system WILL LAG BAD!
Security Accounts Manager
(Some of those? You may not even HAVE on XP, not sure anymore, but point is there! ABOVE ALL - If you are NOT SURE what to do here? Ask, or just don't do anything @ all... it can be 'somewhat risky')

** An example post of someone doing this is here you can refer to & follow, has details, for SERVICES CUTOFFS OPTIMIZATIONS:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=140048#post140048
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C.) Lastly/Optionally, startup ScienceMark 2.0 (using its File Menu, Run Submenu to browse for it if need be on disk) & try it @ HIGH, or ABOVENORMAL CPU Priority!

(When you run it by rightclicking on it as you startup the program & it comes into taskmgr.exe's PROCESS tab view as visible, give the benchmark program THAT MUCH MORE CPU PRIORITY possible - then, RUN IT!).

NOTE: When you are @ highest o/c's possible for your rig? It can get "touchy" using HIGH cpu priority, SO, if you can't finish the test? Step down to AboveNormal or Normal CPU priority via taskmgr.exe on ScienceMark2.exe!
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D.) When done: Restart services you need, via service.msc right-click popup menu or START/STOP command there WHILE IN THE PROCESSES TAB, & restart explorer.exe (your desktop GUI shell) using taskmgr.exe's File menu, RUN submenu item. Then, post your CPU-z 1.36 data & score in photos in this thread. Thanks!
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apk

Lekamies

07-31-2006, 06:09 PM

cdawall

07-31-2006, 07:32 PM

my stock amd athlon 64 w/ ddr266 gets a huge 874.65!!!

Boneface

07-31-2006, 07:52 PM

when i run it..it doesnt do the 1st 2 or 3 of them

Alec§taar

07-31-2006, 08:36 PM

See my score here:

http://img.techpowerup.org/060731/APKScienceMark1DefraggedOnRamDiskRun.jpg

:)

* There is my results from this benchmark, with the system makeup below in my signature &/or specs panel...

APK

P.S.=> All tests ran to full duration & iterations of default tests as well for your reference... apk

Alec§taar

07-31-2006, 09:25 PM

I've got THE fastest one yet overall submitted here @ least!

:)

(LOL: Hey, I KNOW YOU'RE OUT THERE)...

* Bring on an Intel CONROE (Their highest-end one, preferably).

If you can't, is there ones faster that have broken 1400 overall score, etc.??

I don't know, I don't use this test typically!

APK

P.S.=> Coder built machine no less... I refuse to believe people here don't have one that scores better, there must be one - after all, you guys are the hardware nuts, not me! apk

Alec§taar

07-31-2006, 11:19 PM

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/sep2004/7/5/0009E6F2-85D7-115A-A19D80C328EC0000.jpg

"Is there NO ONE ELSE!?!"

:)

APK

P.S.=> Come on now, if it comes down to me having to rib on you like that... break 1400! apk

dj_dn

07-31-2006, 11:38 PM

Alec§taar

08-01-2006, 12:43 AM

I broke it, 1446.18 I love my new system.

"Very good Danielsan"

:)

(What took you so long? LOL...)

EDIT PART - Now listening to Led Zeppelin's "Achilles Last Stand" lol, per the photos I used above...

APK

P.S.=> Hmmm, a ~56 point margin of error to beat, eh? I'll o/c when the heatwave stops, get out to near 2800mhz & beat that imo!

I know I can get to 2728.1 or so, & all is stable except once I had a F@H mishap, so I stepped down some...

I will try for my highest when it cools down ambient temps-wise... & try to once more O/C'd to that rate or more & try to beat YOUR score! Waiting out the heat & will try for more later... apk

Alec§taar

08-01-2006, 05:11 AM

After a massive heatwave cooldown, I ran it, & this... was the unedited result:

http://img.techpowerup.org/060801/APKUneditedResult.jpg

:)

* Talk about "Turning up the turbo-boost & adding NOS"...

APK

P.S.=> I swear to God on my life that I did not edit that above either, it IS how it came out... apk

{JNT}Raptor

08-01-2006, 05:38 AM

First glance has me thinking your OC Isn't stable.
Or simply a glitch with the test on that run.

Alec§taar

08-01-2006, 01:06 PM

First glance has me thinking your OC Isn't stable.
Or simply a glitch with the test on that run.

It's a glitch on that run most likely, because it has not done a result like that since.

I've run it 4 more times, always 'batting in' @ around the same as my first result (1388-1390 & I can't beat my original score @ my current overclock - so dj dn's rig IS the fastest thusfar).

APK

Alec§taar

08-01-2006, 03:20 PM

Here are my latest results, overclock is higher than I have ever run it here thusfar:

http://img.techpowerup.org/060801/APKFinalOCPg1CPU.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/060801/APKFinalOCPg2RAM.jpg

:)

* Here is my score, JUST SHY of 1400 (can't break it, & weather's TOO HOT to try for a higher o/c imo, @ least for this summer (topping 100F today around here))

http://img.techpowerup.org/060801/APKScienceMark1DefraggedOnRamDiskRun.jpg

APK

P.S.=> dj, I have to admit, you have a faster system than I do... that is, until I can try to pull off a still higher O/C, but I don't dare in this heat & to be blunt about it: I don't think I can 'take on' your Opteron 165 DualCore, no matter HOW far I o/c my rig... apk

W2hCYK

08-01-2006, 03:35 PM

that 165 is a denmark, right? My friend cant get it past 2.6GHz, and when he does that, it performs horribly.. ygpm. i need help. lol

Boneface

08-01-2006, 03:51 PM

why wont it do the first 2 test for mine?

Alec§taar

08-01-2006, 03:56 PM

No idea - does it feedback an error message, or do you system eventlogs show anything also?

(Only things I can think of that MIGHT shed some light on your situation...)

APK

Boneface

08-01-2006, 04:15 PM

no error just doesnt do the first 2

edit:tried again and its the same thing

Alec§taar

08-01-2006, 04:21 PM

no error just doesnt do the first 2 or 3

If you look @ the last page, I did a screenprint of a "glitch" the test ran into over here, & when that happened?

The first test that does the spinning cube in black background & white borders as it rotates seemingly "hung up", but I still got a result from it on the molecular default test set... outrageous though it was!

Does yours just NOT give you a result, whatsoever?

There ARE "output files" from it as it runs, they are in .rst & .txt form & they are located under the ScienceMark folder itself!

I suggest looking thru them for clues as to WHY you may not be getting results @ all!

(Does your CPU do SSE2/SSE3 etc. as well as MMX/3dNow (if AMD the latter 2 should work no matter what, as well as x87 Assembly code streams)).

APK

Boneface

08-01-2006, 04:27 PM

ok when i try to do the first 2 seperatly it tell s me that sciencemark has encounted a problem and the whole thing about it having to close

Urlyin

08-01-2006, 05:03 PM

I scored a 1537 ....
175 Dual Core Opteron @2.8
10 x 280
DFI CFX3200
Gskill PC4000 @ 1:1

I'll post a screenie once I get a chance... :)

Alec§taar

08-01-2006, 05:13 PM

I scored a 1537 ....
175 Dual Core Opteron @2.8
10 x 280
DFI CFX3200
Gskill PC4000 @ 1:1

I'll post a screenie once I get a chance... :)

WoW!!!

:)

* 3rd place now, behind yourself & dj dn... both of you running Opteron "DC" CPU's!

APK

P.S.=> BoneFace, maybe you're "pushing too hard" via too much o/c'ing? I don't know...

I just hit 2772.5mhz here as an overclock!

I am now using a 231mhz FSB + 12x Multiplier for that rate... & imo so far @ least? I think I did better @ 2750.1mhz via 250mhz FSB + 11x Multiplier for THAT rate!

(& it doesn't want to run this ScienceMark 2.0 test properly now!)

That tells me I am pushing TOO hard & may have been better off using a lower multiplier 11x by 250mhz FSB - ScienceMark runs on that just fine, whereas this latest o/c won't let it! apk

Urlyin

08-01-2006, 05:23 PM

I have a little room left .... but I'm surprised you're not getting a little more out of that 4800 X2 .... I'm running little high on the vcore and I'm using a wb ... :toast:

tigger

08-01-2006, 05:23 PM

new result at 4285mhz.

http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/v50197science%202u228.jpg

you got me by 4 points alecstaar lol

Alec§taar

08-01-2006, 05:28 PM

new result at 4285mhz.

http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/v50197science%202u228.jpg

you got me by 4 points alecstaar lol

You're RIGHT ON MY TAIL!!!

http://img.techpowerup.org/060801/APKScienceMark1DefraggedOnRamDiskRun393.jpg

:)

* How the HECK did you get 4285++ mhz?

APK

Alec§taar

08-01-2006, 05:30 PM

I have a little room left .... but I'm surprised you're not getting a little more out of that 4800 X2 .... I'm running little high on the vcore and I'm using a wb ... :toast:

Well, I am STILL "experimenting" here, & it IS very HOT outside (hitting 100F today already), so it may be affecting what my TRUE "top-end" can be, stable...

I did better using:

11x multiplier + 250mhz FSB = 2750.1mhz overclock (196/200mhz DDR-400 RAM speed set DDR-333)

vs.

12x multiplier + 231mhz FSB = 2772.1mhz overclock (184/200mhz DDR-400 RAM speed set DDR-333)

IMO @ least, mainly because the first one yields BETTER ramspeed, vs. the 2nd one, though it has a higher overall mhz gain!

APK

tigger

08-01-2006, 05:59 PM

what about this then-

http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/e33961untitledl228.jpg

would'nt run science mark tho' bsod.

Alec§taar

08-01-2006, 06:02 PM

would'nt run science mark tho' bsod.

No WONDER you could top 4285mhz - you're an "INTEL MAN"!

APK

Alec§taar

08-01-2006, 06:05 PM

I have a little room left .... but I'm surprised you're not getting a little more out of that 4800 X2 .... I'm running little high on the vcore and I'm using a wb ... :toast:

Got a BIT more outta it, now... & FINALLY STABLE too, with better overclock than I have had before (glad I took this test now for sure)!

CPU-z 1.35 CPU (showing ~353mhz SOLID/STABLE overdriven gain over stock speed 2400mhz)

http://img.techpowerup.org/060801/APKFinalOCPg1CPU239FSBx11.5xMultSTABLE093.jpg

&

CPU-z 1.35 RAM overdriven gain (getting ~197mhz of 200mhz possible on DDR-400 via DDR3 dividers used)

http://img.techpowerup.org/060801/APKFinalOCPg2RAM239FSBx11.5xMultSTABLE.jpg

ScienceMark 2.0 score (best yet @ 1401++, & stable):

http://img.techpowerup.org/060801/APKScienceMark20CPU239FSBx11.5xMultStable.jpg

:)

* There she be, best I can do... even w/ a 100F heatwave ambient temps outside today!

(Finally, I broke 1400 & I am STILL in 3rd place here, lol - wtf!)

I am now 37 points behind dj dn & his Opteron DC cpu @ 1446 points (who trails the 1537 point leader, Urlyin (same cpu type in Opt165 DC also))...

APK

P.S.=> It seems this ScienceMark 2.0 is a damn useful test, because it's also a GOOD test of CPU + RAM stability under duress of overclocking... given this heat, I have not only sped up my system substantially today, but also gotten a STABLE runner outta taking this test!

BONUS!!! apk

Alec§taar

08-01-2006, 10:13 PM

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/sep2004/7/5/0009E6F2-85D7-115A-A19D80C328EC0000.jpg

"Is there NO ONE ELSE!?!"

WELL? See above...

:)

* Rinse, Lather, & Repeat 3x... lol!

APK

P.S.=> Test's been a good thing for me, got a stable faster o/c from it, & pretty much have decided that this benchmark's also a decent stability test as well!

It was a challenge to make the "1400++ club" as well...

So, got the machine for it? I know there's more systems here faster than mine, & if you're new? Bring 'em on as well... apk

tigger

08-01-2006, 11:01 PM

i think it is a good stability test,mine failed coz i had the mem at 950,i think it may be too high.i will try it at 800 and summthing at 4.4 and see if it will do the test at that.i'm close to you tho' mate.

i only need another 6 or 8 points and i.ve got ya. lol

Alec§taar

08-01-2006, 11:09 PM

i think it is a good stability test,

I am fairly convinced of that myself as well!

(I.E.-> Not only is it a decent benchmark, but also a stability tester for overclockers (2 for the price of one)).

mine failed coz i had the mem at 950,i think it may be too high.i will try it at 800 and summthing at 4.4 and see if it will do the test at that.i'm close to you tho' mate.

You have to step down some it appears from that, this is certain... I went thru the same, & could achieve TREMENOUS overclocks (out past 2828 iirc noted in this thread) & I could post forums & surf all day, download files etc. just fine - stable!

BUT, run my system thru that test all the way? NOT!

Again - it is a stability tester as well as a benchmark (dual bonus)...

i only need another 6 or 8 points and i.ve got ya. lol

Yes, you are almost there...

MISSION - "Get to the 1400++ club stable - pass thru ScienceMark 2.0 to prove it"

:)

* It isn't easy when your system's just about maxed-out... & it's not all about mhz, but also how much of your memory mhz rating you get back too!

I found when the RAM timings are near-optimal "balanced", when you have to use a divider clock (DDR-333 down from DDR-400, but 197/200mhz is used now)?

I get thru this test better, & operate on most things overall, better... trying to balance the speed of the CPU mhz-wise, & RAM mhz as well (trying for optimal default timings on divider use), + depends largely on what I am doing!

I could probably surf the web all day @ 2828++ mhz, but gaming, or a ROUGH program like this one is? Nope, no way... good test all around, for stability AND scoring.

APK

cdawall

08-01-2006, 11:10 PM

this is at 254x9 ill do the test at 244x10 shortly

cdawall

08-01-2006, 11:40 PM

_33

08-01-2006, 11:54 PM

the only change is the ram is oc'd higher cpu is at 2.44ghz !!! just short of the leader 1512.03 man if i had ddr400 i would have won :shadedshu i think that puts you at 4th alecstaar and me in 2nd w/ s754 amd a64 3000+ the click on the 2.44ghz and it is only for the 1323.22 ill eventually post the one w/ the ram at 354mhz

Those scores don't make sense!

You shouldn't do much past 1000 really. Don't ask me how you got this peak score, it's obviously a bug. The last post before does make sense thoe.

dj_dn

08-01-2006, 11:56 PM

the only change is the ram is oc'd higher cpu is at 2.44ghz !!! just short of the leader 1512.03 man if i had ddr400 i would have won :shadedshu i think that puts you at 4th alecstaar and me in 2nd w/ s754 amd a64 3000+ the click on the 2.44ghz and it is only for the 1323.22 ill eventually post the one w/ the ram at 354mhz
Euhm, look at your primordia score it's 3092.28 vs core duo 2 1596 and FX-62 1357. Somthing aint right.

http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/13/0,1425,sz=1&i=133051,00.gif

PS: dang _33 got to it faster then me.

Alec§taar

08-01-2006, 11:57 PM

i think that puts you at 4th alecstaar and me in 2nd

Man, hate to tell you this, but I have to agree w/ the others here!

Your results don't make sense, if looked @ closely!

I say this, because I've seen it do some OUTRAGEOUS things already, see photo noted below!

It happens if you overclock TOO much (I did mine for stability too, & am running it as noted in my sig & for this test's results as well, stable as we speak & @ those rates below).

Those scores don't make sense!

You shouldn't do muych past 1000 really. Don't ask me how you got this peak score, it's obviously a bug. The last post before does make sense thoe.

Could very well be, his Primordia did the same thing my molecular did (progress bar out of bounds of its groupbox border even)

You can see that on the page of this post 3 pages prior to THIS one (954520.25 or, some outrageous score like that)...

Get ready for a laff, see my 5th post down's photo of my desktop running it & hitting a bug:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=14736&page=2

APK

_33

08-01-2006, 11:57 PM

new result at 4285mhz.

http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/v50197science%202u228.jpg

you got me by 4 points alecstaar lol

Did you tweak your memory to achieve that score? :toast:

_33

08-02-2006, 12:01 AM

Could very well be, his Primordia did the same thing my molecular did on the page of this post 3 pages prior to THIS one (954520.25 or, some outrageous score like that)...

Get ready for a laff:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=14736&page=2

APK

Congratz dude btw, your machine is quite the performer! On mine, I got value ram, so it's being held down a bit. If I had proper memory say OCZ platinum something, or some GEIL Ultra something, CAS 2, I'd probably hit something liek 1420 - 1450. But, reality is another thing right now.

You know also what's amazing is we get a head to head AMD64 vs P4 here, and it's quite neck to neck. I see on INTEL? usually the mem seems to hold it back. I could be wrong.

cdawall

08-02-2006, 12:03 AM

Alec§taar

08-02-2006, 12:08 AM

Congratz dude btw, your machine is quite the performer!

Yea, it's doing OK, stable (despite the heatwave, 101F here today)...

Plus, this resulted in my finding the upwardmost possible decent mhz boost on CPU, & moreso imo @ least on the memory hitting 197/200mhz possible for DDR-400 stock type RAM & operating @ 47C under load as well...

Good balance, overall for speed of CPU, memory, & bus - w/out "nuclear meltdown" temperatures or instabilities showing up (stable now for hours).

I am surprised (this benchmark turned out not only THAT, but also a GOOD stability of overclock tester, especially in the RAM area!)...

On mine, I got value ram, so it's being held down a bit. If I had proper memory say OCZ platinum something, or some GEIL Ultra something, CAS 2, I'd probably hit something liek 1420 - 1450. But, reality is another thing right now.

Mine too, my biggest "downfall/detractor" is my RAM, we noted that in the overclocking thread I did, & got a LOT of help on how it is done, & what to note/look for, etc. from others here...

:)

* This benchmark turned out MORE than just a benchmark for me - but, a way to score my system vs. others AND find it's upper limits on overclocks as a stability testing program also: BONUS!

APK

{JNT}Raptor

08-02-2006, 12:12 AM

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=109170 here would be my cpuz validation w/ ram tweaking sad how a cheap sub $100 system smokes you guys think if it wasn't summer i could have broke 250mhzx10 and really put up some numbers

Your not getting It.....No way your system gets 1500+....Look at the other rigs In this thread and you'll see your rig Is overshadowed by some real beasts.....your test was a Fluke....nothing more.....proving your rig Is more than likely NOT 100% stable In that configuration.........your first posted test score Is more than likely right on the money.

That being said....Heres mine...1334...not to shabby.....and will get better. ;)

_33

08-02-2006, 12:17 AM

Yea, it's doing OK, stable (despite the heatwave, 101F here today)...

Plus, this resulted in my finding the upwardmost possible decent mhz boost on CPU, & moreso imo @ least on the memory hitting 197/200mhz possible for DDR-400 stock type RAM & operating @ 47C under load as well...

Good balance, overall for speed of CPU, memory, & bus - w/out "nuclear meltdown" temperatures or instabilities showing up (stable now for hours).

I am surprised (this benchmark turned out not only THAT, but also a GOOD stability of overclock tester, especially in the RAM area!)...

Mine too, my biggest "downfall/detractor" is my RAM, we noted that in the overclocking thread I did, & got a LOT of help on how it is done, & what to note/look for, etc. from others here...

:)

* This benchmark turned out MORE than just a benchmark for me - but, a way to score my system vs. others AND find it's upper limits on overclocks as a stability testing program also: BONUS!

APK

Yes totally! Thoe, for a game like, let's say Oblivion, I have to get that 2858 mhz down to around 2817 to be fully stable for hours on end. So at 2817, I'd probably get like a 1345-1350 score. I'm totally surprized by the performance of the Opteron 165! I wanted to switch to Opteron, and that might be it!

It's pretty hot in here BTW, won't do benchmarks today. But my memory is not very stable past 225 mhz CAS 3-3-3-8 with otherwize tight latencies and settings on other parms (DFI oblige).

cdawall

08-02-2006, 12:23 AM

Alec§taar

08-02-2006, 12:23 AM

Yes totally! Thoe, for a game like, let's say Oblivion, I have to get that 2858 mhz down to around 2817 to be fully stable for hours on end. So at 2817, I'd probably get like a 1345-1350 score.

Now, you're bringing up a point, a VERY solid one & I hit upon it as well earlier:

I noted, that I got BETTER SCORES on this test, with a higher FSB using a lower multiplier...

I had a 231mhz - 250mhz FSB x 12 multiplier, & got WAY higher CPU overclocks hitting into the 2828++ ranges, but instability on this test... & lower scores when it ran as well!

(That is, WHEN it went thru all of its tests fully, clocked up that high on the CPU (sacrificing HUGE on RAM mhz though, was way out of 'sync' @ 184/200mhz only) that is (was VERY "touch & go" getting the test to complete @ all))...

Now, @ the 2828++mhz CPU clock ranges?

Sure, I could run my system just fine & surf the web, do email, etc. but not pass this test, stable... & when I went back to a FASTER FSB, & lower multiplier (figures in my sig)?

I scored BETTER on this test, and it runs consistently & properly all the way thru!

This indicates to me that FSB deals in system communication w/ RAM onboard the mobo & that this test IS "memory bandwidth" intensive & TOUCHY if it is not stable...

I'm totally surprized by the performance of the Opteron 165! I wanted to switch to Opteron, and that might be it!

Yes, they ARE nice, & iirc, this mobo can take one too... they are also DualCore x2 jobbies!

:)

* I will wait out their price break @ some point & possibly replace this one... but, don't you have to get ECC memory too?

APK

cdawall

08-02-2006, 12:27 AM

the fact that the test is ram depenmdent would give my built in s754 ram controller the adv which maybe could be what made my test results better i cant think of nething ????

Alec§taar

08-02-2006, 12:29 AM

is there any progream you want me to rnu to prove 100% stable it runs pcmark05 3dmark2001se aquamark3 and superpi so umm.... it could be a glitch but hey i am happy about 2nd place maybe if i tweak the ram some more i can get 1st im not that far away ohh and i think the prob is not the prog i think it is amd s754 setup i am running the htt at over 1000mhz and the ram at 325.3mhz but the primordia score is kinda outta whack so watever ive run it 3x and got sim results so what now we email sciencemark about glitches oh and temp wise (i was watching my temp prog the whole time) was never over 54C

I'd just test & see what you can post here on this test (it IS a good test of Cpu/Memory stability)... take your time doing so, because this test helped me get the VERY LAST DROP of performance out of this beast!

:)

* Just by taking the time to eck out what I could from o/c's...

I also (if you noted the photo I posted of some outrageous score) saw some "glitches" in this test, & they looked like the one you saw (except WAY more outrageous results)...

What it told me was it could complete THIS benchmark test, finally consistently enough, & thus meaning I was getting close to where I had to be mhz-wise on the CPU!

AND the memory ratio (I went from 184/200mhz unstable on RAM, to 197/200mhz STABLE)...

You're probably very close to where you are stable now, & the only things that helped me so far have been this benchmark, & running Folding@Home (both memory/cpu intensive)... when they got "nutty" (if & when they did)? I knew, back down a notch, & try again!

* Those other tests you note ought to be good too!

APK

P.S.=> Good luck & HOPE you can beat me... it is a painstaking hassle, especially in this heatwave out there today! apk

cdawall

08-02-2006, 12:42 AM

I'd just test & see what you can post here on this test (it IS a good test of Cpu/Memory stability)... take your time doing so, because this test helped me get the VERY LAST DROP of performance out of this beast!

:)

* Just by taking the time to eck out what I could from o/c's...

I also (if you noted the photo I posted of some outrageous score) saw some "glitches" in this test, & they looked like the one you saw (except WAY more outrageous results)...

What it told me was it could complete THIS benchmark test, finally consistently enough, & thus meaning I was getting close to where I had to be mhz-wise on the CPU!

AND the memory ratio (I went from 184/200mhz unstable on RAM, to 197/200mhz STABLE)...

You're probably very close to where you are stable now, & the only things that helped me so far have been this benchmark, & running Folding@Home (both memory/cpu intensive)... when they got "nutty" (if & when they did)? I knew, back down a notch, & try again!

* Those other tests you note ought to be good too!

APK

P.S.=> Good luck & HOPE you can beat me... it is a painstaking hassle, especially in this heatwave out there today! apk
i am pretty sure i did beat you but yeah i guess ill notch my stuff back and run again but remember on both of my 2.44ghz test i got extremely high scores so lets see wat i can do this winter

Alec§taar

08-02-2006, 12:45 AM

i am pretty sure i did beat you but yeah i guess ill notch my stuff back and run again but remember on both of my 2.44ghz test i got extremely high scores so lets see wat i can do this winter

Well, test her out stable (if you have tested stable to your satisfaction, then so be it)...

However, I would test more...

See, I say that, because that result with the glitch on Primordia section in your result I saw, just made no sense!

It inflated your score, it happened to me as well!

Again: Do see the photo I had with one of those in it (Molecular test result was outrageous by comparison to all others run, first key point!)

Second key point noting err/abend in test program was:

Progress bar outside of groupbox border also KEY THING TO NOTE IS THAT

(Much like yours was, except in the Primordia test on your system)

Most of these, if you note? All score around the SAME relative numbers in each test, not HUGE variances, & certainly not those that go outside groupbox border by progress bar (definitely a glitch)...

The photo I posted with the SAME 'glitch'?

It would set the world record probably (& I KNOW this machine won't do that!)

Then get back to us... put that pic up & all that!

:)

* It's possible you beat me, but I had to play around with my system a great deal to get what I did out of this testscore, but moreso for stability out of the settings I used to get it!

APK

_33

08-02-2006, 12:51 AM

I'd just test & see what you can post here on this test (it IS a good test of Cpu/Memory stability)... take your time doing so, because this test helped me get the VERY LAST DROP of performance out of this beast!

:)

* Just by taking the time to eck out what I could from o/c's...

I also (if you noted the photo I posted of some outrageous score) saw some "glitches" in this test, & they looked like the one you saw (except WAY more outrageous results)...

What it told me was it could complete THIS benchmark test, finally consistently enough, & thus meaning I was getting close to where I had to be mhz-wise on the CPU!

AND the memory ratio (I went from 184/200mhz unstable on RAM, to 197/200mhz STABLE)...

You're probably very close to where you are stable now, & the only things that helped me so far have been this benchmark, & running Folding@Home (both memory/cpu intensive)... when they got "nutty" (if & when they did)? I knew, back down a notch, & try again!

* Those other tests you note ought to be good too!

APK

P.S.=> Good luck & HOPE you can beat me... it is a painstaking hassle, especially in this heatwave out there today! apk

BTW Alec, if you want to test how hot is your CPU CORES, I have *THE* program for you. It is called Core Temp (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=103639). It will tell you precicely the core temp reading from each of the cores in your X2 proc! It may be a scary view. Not only that, but the censors might be wacky in your cores and not report right temps (that could happen, not the most reliable part of the CPU).

Alec§taar

08-02-2006, 12:53 AM

BTW Alec, if you want to test how hot is your CPU CORES, I have *THE* program for you. It is called Core Temp Beta 0.9.0.91. It will tell you precicely the core temp reading from each of the cores in your X2 proc! It may be a scary view. Not only that, but the censors might be wacky in your cores and not report right temps (that could happen, not the most reliable part of the CPU).

Thanks man... I will use that!

EDIT PART:

I have, works GREAT (nice simple & to-the-point miinimalist design, & yet fully feedback featured too)...

Works on AMD as well!

(Lists Intel stuff, iirc, ONLY in the readme though, got me a bit spooked)...

:)

* "TEMPS MATTER HUGE!"

(Especially in this heatwave... ugh!)

APK

P.S.=> 33, did you write this one? apk

{JNT}Raptor

08-02-2006, 01:14 AM

the fact that the test is ram depenmdent would give my built in s754 ram controller the adv which maybe could be what made my test results better i cant think of nething ????

Nope...as far as I know.....basically ALL AMD64 CPU's have the Onboard memory controller.

Lets look at the facts.....your on the Oldest 64bit AMD platform...your running PC2100 memory.......nothing In your setup eclipse's the Hardware from most any other tester....yet you think your score Is legit?....If you check back a few pages like Alec recommended....then you would read that Thats the way you see If your system Isn't stable at the current configuration.

If you honestly think your 2.4gig with PC2100 memory Is going to spank a FX60 Primordea score........slide the pipe over here would ya. :rockout:

cdawall

08-02-2006, 04:09 AM

fyi at 2.44 i have a higher clock both htt and cpu than an fx60 so umm... yeah im just going to drop it back some and then we will see i will start at 2.4 and move up i am sure that will ake u'all happy andyes i read alec super score i posted my first score around there and you know wat the time diff between the tests when i ran the primordia test were cut in half from stock to 2.44ghz so glitch or no it was some major improvement

edit- the 1st test was at 2.4ghz the 2nd 2.35ghz still high in primordia?? no idea what is wrong there

Alec§taar

08-02-2006, 04:46 AM

Achilles from the film "TROY" said it best:

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/sep2004/7/5/0009E6F2-85D7-115A-A19D80C328EC0000.jpg

"Is there NO ONE ELSE!?!"

:)

APK

cdawall

08-02-2006, 04:55 AM

tigger

08-02-2006, 10:08 AM

hello alecstaar,
i beat ya lol :toast:

http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/q7545beat%20ya%20lolf228.jpg

this was at 4.3ghz with the mem at 833.look at the bas/flops its pretty high eh?.can you jump over me now?.(metaphorical gauntlet thrown lol)

_33

08-02-2006, 10:11 AM

i am going to say it again is there any program thst i can run to prove complete stability i just ran cpu burn in 4 30min. no issue at any speed up to 2.44ghz maybe thru some fluke amd s754 a64 3000+ just has primordia beat:confused:

Try superPI and give us your results. If you obtain less than 45 seconds at 1M, we'll congratulate you.

tigger

08-02-2006, 10:20 AM

here ya go-
http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/a13562piu228.jpg

_33

08-02-2006, 10:24 AM

_33

08-02-2006, 10:25 AM

here ya go-
http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/a13562piu228.jpg

I was asking cdawall, but hey, great result none the less!

{JNT}Raptor

08-02-2006, 10:47 AM

i am going to say it again is there any program thst i can run to prove complete stability i just ran cpu burn in 4 30min. no issue at any speed up to 2.44ghz maybe thru some fluke amd s754 a64 3000+ just has primordia beat:confused:

More than likely your Fluke results are a result of you running your HTT Bus past the Limit of 800 that the 754 platform has......back your HTT bus down to 800 and then re-run the test. :)

tigger

08-02-2006, 10:51 AM

sorry i thought you was asking me.i think i can get higher,but it just wont run the test at 4.4ghz.it does the first coupla tests then bsods.i'm not sure if it is the ram been too high or not enuff vcore.i had it at 1.438.it might need more but my cooler is really been pushed to the max at that.

i've seen some guys 930 at 4.8ghz,i just cant seem to get mine to windows at 300fsb or more.it'll post at 4.5 but will not do windows.more tweaking i guess.i would love to try it will water cooling.

Alec§taar

08-02-2006, 12:35 PM

hello alecstaar, i beat ya lol :toast:

Yes, you did... from 1317.07. -> 1395 -> 1424.36!

All of your progress bars & such are w/ in their groupbox border, + all scores are right around one another consistently...

:)

Looks legit: Good Job! You did put me into 4th place, imo... & you certainly do NOT "give up" either... lol!

this was at 4.3ghz with the mem at 833.look at the bas/flops its pretty high eh?.can you jump over me now?.(metaphorical gauntlet thrown lol)

Probably not today @ least - we are due for an even hotter day than yesterday, & that tipped in @ 100F! It's 7:30 a.m. & I am drinking my morning cup of coffee & can feel this much already, & the forecast of the weather is seconding it...

Plus, I was pretty near my limits on my first score 1390 -> 1399 -> 1401 imo, @ least, especially if I want to keep it this way & run stable over relatively long durations (very important to me, & part of WHY I did this test no less - helped me eck out that LITTLE BIT MORE outta my machine & proved it's a GOOD stability test too!)

My RAM - it kills me on overclocks, trying to get higher than what I can now!

(Tatty One, Ketxxx, & POGE all feel the same: That I need to purchase better than stock oem DDR-400 & go @ it w/ out having to use "divider speeds" like DDR-333 as I do (but, I am @ 197/200mhz rated memory speed, so, not all bad - fairly "tight" result))

They were my "mentors/tutors" in doing my "Ram timing-chain re-tighten" phase of my overclock & came to that conclusion, as I did... & I definitely think those guys know what they're doing in this regard...

Fact is, I even tried to "volt it up" yesterday (Corsair 2x256mb sticks ordinary DDR-400)... however, it won't do more than 2.6v stock (e.g.-> 2.65V-2.7V) for very long thru this benchmarks' tests which also function (bonus) as a stability test of an overclock!

* So, there's not much point in me trying that tack to increase RAM performance here, nor "push for more" @ least not today, as it will be TOO hot - & I definitely will need better RAM to go @ my overclocks @ 12 mult. (rather than 11x I use now) & DDR-400 speed as a starting point (rather than DDR-333 as I use now).

APK

P.S.=> I really don't know what to make of cdawall's results, other than to point out the fact his Primordia results progressbar shooting past their groupbox's borders (much like my "super-result" photo did, albeit doing that on the molecular test #1) & being WAY outside of the group of his other results... he does seem fairly genuine & adamant his results are "straight" & that his system is stable, & we have NO way of knowing what is what there, unless we sat @ his machine testing w/ him w/ other apps for longterm stability (which is what I am after outta this - my highest possible o/c, & a stable result)... apk

tigger

08-02-2006, 12:59 PM

when i had my amd,it was the generic ram letting me down.the ram i have now is'nt too bad.it was only £100 for a matched pair.

i dont know why it wont do 4.4 stable.i dont know if it is the ram or the vcore or the board that just wont do 300fsb.i guess it must be quite stable as it is now tho' to pass the science mark at 4.3.i guess more tweaking is in order when i can be arsed.

the combination of this board and chip seems to be ok.i am quite impressed with this 930.i really thought a 4800 x2 would beat my chip.i guess it thrashes mine on games tho'.

i just dont see that the chip cdawall has can beat mine and yours,it just doesnt seem right,his parts are'nt exactly high end either.

tigger

08-02-2006, 01:06 PM

am i seeing things or was there a reply by tatty one here a second ago?

Alec§taar

08-02-2006, 03:18 PM

when i had my amd,it was the generic ram letting me down.the ram i have now is'nt too bad.it was only £100 for a matched pair.

What kind do you use now? Both yourself & Steevo have better RAM now, & I would like to start getting some "feedback" on the BETTER & more overclocker-ready RAM out there... thanks for info.!

(Might as well start inquiring now imo)

i dont know why it wont do 4.4 stable.i dont know if it is the ram or the vcore or the board that just wont do 300fsb.i guess it must be quite stable as it is now tho' to pass the science mark at 4.3.i guess more tweaking is in order when i can be arsed.

Yup, I am "experimenting" right now in fact, using 12x multipliers by 231mhz (limit of what I can do & complete ScienceMark 2.0) FSB, & getting 1393 scores on it... lower score on this test & lower RAM-mhz return (185/200mhz) too.

A 232mhz FSB fails out & will not finish the Primordia section here (caught in endless loop on iteration #2, & noting scientifically exponents for results numbers) indicating instability imo @ the level of FSB here.

11x SOLID multiplier & 11.5x FRACTIONAL multiplier in BIOS by 248-250mhz FSB yielded HIGHER ScienceMark 2.0 scores (my high-mark of 1401 was achieved in that manner on ScienceMark 2.0 results) & also a HIGHER RAM-mhz return (195-197/200mhz possible).

Nearly 10 points higher using a LOWER multiplier x HIGHER FSB here on ScienceMark 2.0 is what I am seeing... actually "better" using that & this test's results bear this out for me.

Tough call, either way (but, I now know where the limits I hit are, so it's all good! A man's gotta know his limits in stability testing lol... either that, or cook your system's eggs good & ruin it!)

APK

P.S.=> the combination of this board and chip seems to be ok.i am quite impressed with this 930.i really thought a 4800 x2 would beat my chip.i guess it thrashes mine on games tho'.

I have no idea either way, but that Intel rig of yours is a GOOD overclocker imo! I gotta get me some BETTER more-overclock ready RAM... by ALL means!

Still, I think I can "tighten" up my memory timing-chain (as I call it) & see if I can get MORE "ROI" from my RAM-mhz speeds using 12x multiplier instead of 11-11.5x...

just dont see that the chip cdawall has can beat mine and yours,it just doesnt seem right,his parts are'nt exactly high end either.

It's not imo, like many of yours, but... he may be straight on his opinion of it being stable & it has found SOMEKIND of 'glitch' that allows test completion, but showing a radical "err" outlier result in his Primordia result (just like that "Super-Result of mine had in "Molecular" test section I posted - insane #'s results like 95294.20 scores, impossible, & progressbar bounds exceeding the groupbox container)... apk

cdawall

08-02-2006, 03:48 PM

Alec§taar

08-02-2006, 04:34 PM

ok here you go i tweaked my ram got it at 42s at 1m super pi with pics to prove it these are my super pi scores 2.35ghz (2T) 2.44ghz (1T) and 2.4ghz(2T) and shortly i will have new science mark 2 score at 1T on the ram

edit-new high score!!!! 1592.84 @2.44ghz and ram at 2.5-3-3-6-9 1T

Looks stable for the most part, & you MAY indeed, have a legit score...

What makes me question it, & others too?

Well, MAINLY that Primordia result being SO far "out of whack" by comparison to your other scores!

It is really the ONLY thing making me "question" your resultset... that, & its progressbar blowing by the bounds of its groupbox container (lesser issue here though imo), but that's it though!

:)

* At this point, regarding YOUR results (especially the Primordia section):

I would write the coder of this program & run your results by him, directing him to this thread no less...

(That is the SURE way to get an answer imo @ least, & also possibly alert him to problems in this program (like my "Super-Result" back a few pages, lol, because it IS appearing to be a LOT like it, & in my case @ least in that one? I KNOW this system can't pull that much of a score off!)).

APK

cdawall

08-02-2006, 04:57 PM

Alec§taar

08-02-2006, 05:06 PM

there that should make you happy made my primordia drop :mad: happy now i changed some of the settings and ran it at 2.44ghz and all my other settings what ever the prob was fixed when i changed the element thingy in primordia

It's NOT about "me being happy", but more YOU being happy & knowing your result is indeed, legit... others & yes, myself, aren't convinced of it because of what I noted above is all.

:)

* I do think you ought to write the coder of this program, & run it by him, as to what I state above may be "wrong" w/ your results earlier...

They DO appear to be stable though!

STILL do write him:

Mainly about Primordia being WAY out of sync w/ your other results (plus, the progressbar flooding out of its frame/groupbox signals something is amiss as well, albeit not as much as how much the Primordia result "differs" from your other scores... do note, ours tend to stay ROUGHLY @ par with the other test results, this is a key point).

APK

Urlyin

08-02-2006, 05:14 PM

there that should make you happy made my primordia drop :mad: happy now i changed some of the settings and ran it at 2.44ghz and all my other settings what ever the prob was fixed when i changed the element thingy in primordia

Changed what element thingy? I thought the test was ran at it's default settings ... any changes would skew the test and result in exactly what happened... an unbelievable score... but none the less, that is a good score for a 3000+ cpu on your last run posted :toast:

cdawall

08-02-2006, 05:19 PM

no the last one when i got a 1023.22 i changed the element that is the one that was non default all the others ran the full time and all the same test you guys did even on that i am going to change my dram timings to get a higher score and run again at default and we will see if i can top my near 1600 pt. score :rockout:

cdawall

08-02-2006, 05:37 PM

ok i found a big glitch in primordia and set the bar in primordia 8k haha

Alec§taar

08-02-2006, 05:43 PM

ok i found a big glitch in primordia and set the bar in primordia 8k haha

I don't know about you guys, but I ran ALL the tests @ their default set (no user-defined stuff etc. on ANY test)... first of all.

Secondly, man... you really OUGHT to write the program's developer on your Primordia results... seriously!

AND, do point him to my "Super-Result" on the Molecular test too, the photo of it... cannot hurt!

(We may end up w/ a better version in 3.x because of it!)

APK

cdawall

08-02-2006, 07:35 PM

yeah prob should but hey watever i redownloaded the prog and it seems to be having less funny results ill post new scores later

tigger

08-02-2006, 07:56 PM

hello alecstaar.

my ram is this-http://www.patriotmem.com/products/groupdetailp.jsp?prodgroupid=63&prodline=5&group=PC2-7200&catid=2

i have had it to 1000mhz at 3.75ghz,at the moment it is at its recomended setiings of 450/900 at 5.5.5.15 at 2.3volts.compared to ddr1 on an amd the timings are really high,i hated it at first but i know ddr2 has higher timings but more bandwidth.on sandra it is about 8000mb/sec.and i know games like high bandwidth.

i too ran all the tests at default settings.

Alec§taar

08-02-2006, 08:57 PM

Alec§taar

08-02-2006, 08:59 PM

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/sep2004/7/5/0009E6F2-85D7-115A-A19D80C328EC0000.jpg

"Is there NO ONE ELSE!?!"

CPU-z 1.35 CPU (showing ~353mhz SOLID/STABLE overdriven gain over stock speed 2400mhz)

http://img.techpowerup.org/060801/APKFinalOCPg1CPU239FSBx11.5xMultSTABLE093.jpg

&

CPU-z 1.35 RAM overdriven gain (getting ~197mhz of 200mhz possible on DDR-400 via DDR3 dividers used)

http://img.techpowerup.org/060801/APKFinalOCPg2RAM239FSBx11.5xMultSTABLE.jpg

ScienceMark 2.0 score (best yet @ 1401++, & stable):

http://img.techpowerup.org/060801/APKScienceMark20CPU239FSBx11.5xMultStable.jpg

:)

APK

cdawall

08-02-2006, 11:52 PM

Alec§taar

08-03-2006, 12:06 AM

i have done testing and realized i could oc up to 2.47ghz but had to drop my htt from ~976mhz (w/ my 2.44ghz setting and 800mhz htt) to ~741mhz @2.47ghz is the extra 30mhz worth the loss of 235mhz of htt??? i know this is pro the wrong spot but i trust you guys to tell me right so there it is????

It's funny you ask that, because I am wondering THAT myself, especially during the ScienceMark 2.0 competition here this week!

IMO?

I did a "BETTER" o/c using 11x multipliers (even better using "fractional" ones my BIOS offers in 11.5x) as far as regaining RAM-mhz (memory tab section of CPU-z 1.35) than using 12x multipliers, especially concerning DDR-400 -> DDR-333 "hit" I took using "dividers" as the guys here call this technique!

12x multipliers (2773mhz CPU though) only allow me a 185/200mhz possible on RAM speeds...

11x multipliers ("only" 2750mhz CPU here) however, get me 196/200mhz (avg. of 11x-11.5x ratings I saw in CPU-z)

* Which IS better, indeed, is the question to ask!

APK

P.S.=> Imo, in theory @ least?

For SOME things, higher RAM-mhz return rates is going to benefit you more than a few mhz gained on CPU-clock rating... memory-intensive ops WILL or should, gain more by it (faster FSB = faster CPU->Memory->& back circuit speeds)...

ON THE FLIP-SIDE?

IMO, Higher mhz on the CPU will gain in CPU intensive tasks, albeit you will probably lose SOME mhz on the RAM-mhz speed regain (if you used "dividers" as I had to, going DDR-400 down to DDR-333 rates, & THEN, doing the "ram tightening of memory timing-chain numbers" as I call it to TRY get more of RAM-mhz back)...

I don't THINK there is a "perfect answer", hence WHY I am exploring 12x multipliers @ ALL in the first place (heck, I wanted 2.6ghz, that's all... I get WELL OVER 2700++ ranges now because of all of this - might as well investigate ALL of the possible avenues imo & do tests, then lastly, making a decision!)

"B A L A N C E - balance" quoting Sean Connery as Ramirez in "The Highlander" movie...

IMO @ least? Heck - it's all about that, best optimal return you can get doing BITS of both (high cpu mhz, vs. high RAM-mhz return)...apk

cdawall

08-03-2006, 12:16 AM

you know what is funny though with my htt down the cpu runs cooler so is this a goo trade off??? near identicle performance identicle in super pi so what should i do cooler is better right??? it sucks i thought i had the thing up to 2.5 and the dam thing give me some f***ing blue screen in xp stupid pos had to clock it down and i mean i tried everything dropping ram down to 100 spec (they make that???) and losening timings etc. i got a screen that said shuting down win. to prevent damage whats up w/ that???

Alec§taar

08-03-2006, 12:24 AM

you know what is funny though with my htt down the cpu runs cooler so is this a goo trade off??? near identicle performance identicle in super pi so what should i do cooler is better right???

Absolutely!

By the way:

33 gave me a REALLY nice tool for monitoring temps, light, unobtrusive, & FULLY functional down to the last temps details (& more, would be a GREAT addition to CPU-z code imo)...

Heck, it even runs in the tasktray w/ a tooltip for monitoring temps "live"...

IN fact, I want to write the coder of it, & give him the "secret" to LOW->NORMAL->HIGH->REALTIME cpu usage code!

All so his app can run @ LOW while minimized (on CPU usage) & normal when made fullscreen/normalsized... very easy to do via the Win32 API!

it sucks i thought i had the thing up to 2.5 and the dam thing give me some f***ing blue screen in xp stupid pos had to clock it down and i mean i tried everything dropping ram down to 100 spec (they make that???) and losening timings etc. i got a screen that said shuting down win. to prevent damage whats up w/ that???

Oh, lol, man... I must have "BSOD'd" 20x already during my overclocking!

(Especially initially, before the guys here "turned me on/tuned me in" to HOW to do the memory tighten cycle. Not doing it FOR me, but explaining the reasoning & WHY's/HOW's of it (ALL OF IT, especially POGE & Ketxxx), i.e.-> giving me a pole & teaching me how to fish, not fishing for me!)

BSOD's are not 'bad' man, they are there to PROTECT YOU, against you!

* Try think of them THAT way when o/c'ing...

APK

P.S.=> I have also had the CPU itself shut the system down, overheating is why (33's tool turned me onto THAT fact, when I was blowing WAY over 60c (danger temp iirc, for AMD cpu's))... apk

cdawall

08-03-2006, 12:37 AM

lol bsod sucks but as you can see my ram settings cant be tightened any more though considerin how much nicer they are on xp than 98se (i got blue screen of death a lot on 98se) bte when you upgrade to some real ram like this stuff on sale at tiger http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1820448&CatId=558
(there is a 1gb stick on sale to would you mind sending me the ddr 400 you got ????????? it would be very nice to have some real ram in my system oh and umm most temp monitors dont work on my machspeed board i basically have core temp (from _33) and speedfan and thats all that work :(

Alec§taar

08-03-2006, 12:40 AM

would you mind sending me the ddr 400 you got ????????? it would be very nice to have some real ram in my system oh and umm most temp monitors dont work on my machspeed board i basically have core temp (from _33) and speedfan and thats all that work :(

LOL, the RAM I use? It BLOWS by comparison to what others here use!

(I know it's what's holding me back from using 1:1 ratio (no divider usage, ala DDR-400 speeds step downs to DDR-333 & having to pull the "memory loosen/tighten" cycle))

Corsair "matched pair" DDR-400, 2x256mb sticks - this is NOT "overclocker ready" RAM by any means... trust me on that account!

* I.E.-> I can assure you, that it won't even go "over volt" (2.6v std.), not even to 2.65v or 2.7v... which is WHAT you can do to try "get more" from your RAM during O/C, just like overvolting the CPU or chipset!

APK

cdawall

08-03-2006, 12:50 AM

lol you know considering i am running ddr2100! anything is an improvement and i know what overvolting is my ram now runs at 2.65v over my stupid f'd up boards 2.55v? but hey i am hitting near ddr2700 w/ it (329.4) w/ the timings 2.5-2-2-6-9 2T which should run relative to 2700 spec. plus im poor white boy in houston (go figure) so there is honestly no money to upgrade the ram and if i did have the money it would go to a high end hsf vs the one that came in the box (lol did you know that crappy little fan can hit 4700rpm)

Alec§taar

08-03-2006, 01:06 AM

lol you know considering i am running ddr2100! anything is an improvement

You DO have a point there, lol!

and i know what overvolting is my ram now runs at 2.65v over my stupid f'd up boards 2.55v? but hey i am hitting near ddr2700 w/ it (329.4) w/ the timings 2.5-2-2-6-9 2T which should run relative to 2700 spec.

Your system's pretty impressive imo, & IF you scores are indeed "legit" (which is WHY I asked you write the author of ScienceMark 2.0, so he can verify it, one way or the other, & so that this "err" you & I have BOTH seen, is error trapped for! It obviously isn't @ this point imo @ least!)

If your scores are "straight" though? I wouldn't sell that rig... I'd upgrade it to its max & keep it as a server in years to come...

plus im poor white boy in houston (go figure) so there is honestly no money to upgrade the ram and if i did have the money it would go to a high end hsf vs the one that came in the box

No rich man here by any stretch-of-the-imagination/means @ all, too!

(lol did you know that crappy little fan can hit 4700rpm)

Nope! But, I guess, now I do...

:)

* Not a wasted day, live & learn!

APK

cdawall

08-03-2006, 01:09 AM

err had to change ram sett ing 2.5-3-3

Alec§taar

08-03-2006, 02:46 AM

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/sep2004/7/5/0009E6F2-85D7-115A-A19D80C328EC0000.jpg

"Is there NO ONE ELSE!?!"

:)

* All comers are welcome!

IMO @ least so far? Heck, this is a decent benchmarking program AND stability test in 1 box (2 for the price of 1 FREE program no less)...

APK

cdawall

08-03-2006, 04:15 AM

well looks like stability at over 2.44 is to much to ask w/ stock cooling :(

{JNT}Raptor

08-03-2006, 04:37 AM

well looks like stability at over 2.44 is to much to ask w/ stock cooling :(

The 754 platform has a Roof Limit of 800Mhz HTT...not 1000Mhz HTT like the 939 platform....more than likely...thats what was causing the Extreme Primordea scores.

Makes sense as well with getting a good temp drop....you were way over the 800 Limit.

Congrats on getting It sorted. :)

tigger

08-03-2006, 09:57 AM

_33

08-03-2006, 10:28 AM

The 754 platform has a Roof Limit of 800Mhz HTT...not 1000Mhz HTT like the 939 platform....more than likely...thats what was causing the Extreme Primordea scores.

Makes sense as well with getting a good temp drop....you were way over the 800 Limit.

Congrats on getting It sorted. :)

Actually cdawall has admitted a couple posts earlier that he personalized the test to obtain high scores and so he cheated. higher HTT usually doesn't give much (if any) performance improvements.

Tatty_One

08-03-2006, 11:15 AM

i might have a dabble today and try and see why it fails at the magic 300fsb.it is a bit cooler here today so i might take the chance and try.

has any body any ideas?.more vcore?.more ram volts?.

some guy had his to 4.8ghz at 1.57v so i am pretty sure some more is there.i just need to find the sweet spot at 4.4ghz.

maybe i need to run the mem lower at that speed.

memory will be a limiting factor, if the overclock is pushing your memory speeds at or exceeding its limit you will need to loosten your timings....if you are on 1T....just start by dropping to 2T before you ramp up to 300Mhz rather than changing everything at once. Voltage of course will also be an issue and if you have the cooling you may just want to start by raising her by .25 in any case, usually you will find that a speed that is attained by a lower multiplier and therfore higher FSB requires more volts than the same speed attained by a higher multiplier and therefore lower FSB.....make sense? Of course this in itself will have an impact on memory speed so you really need to try all permitations to see what sits best with your rig. Take things easy and be patient! don't get too over enthusiastic and try it all at once or you may be in need of a new CPU!!

Alec§taar

08-03-2006, 01:01 PM

Actually cdawall has admitted a couple posts earlier that he personalized the test to obtain high scores and so he cheated.

That's NOT acceptable...

:(

APK

{JNT}Raptor

08-03-2006, 01:33 PM

Actually cdawall has admitted a couple posts earlier that he personalized the test to obtain high scores and so he cheated. higher HTT usually doesn't give much (if any) performance improvements.

I realize higher HTT value over stock doesn't give much If any performance boost.....But It can give Instability In benchmarks and app execution.

If In fact he did Indeed admit to cheating...he should be kicked because he sat In this thread and bragged his A** off about "Smoking" the higher end rigs In this thread.

Cheating only shows the true nature of an Individual..

Alec§taar

08-03-2006, 01:48 PM

My latest score & stability (via ScienceMark 2.0) is as follows, having switched from using an 11x multiplier X 249mhz FSB to 12x multiplier X 231mhz FSB):

CPU-z 1.35 CPU-mhz data (~2773mhz - a 373mhz overdriven gain):

http://img.techpowerup.org/060803/APK231FSBx12multiplierCPUzCPU.jpg

CPU-z 1.35 RAM-mhz data (~185/200mhz - a "ROI" of 93%):

http://img.techpowerup.org/060803/APK231FSBx12multiplierCPUzRAMWith2CASandRASPrechar ge3Working.jpg

(This is w/ out setting my BIOS memory setting of RAS Precharge to 2, it is still 3 here but I used the older photo of it when I had it @ 2T for a test of what memory settings I can/could play with to try "tighten" them some more still yet)

ScienceMark 2.0 score (increased from 1392 -> 1401.11 (my highest yet on 12x multiplier thusfar, & even almost beating my old mark of 1401.20 done on 11.5x "Fractional" & frowned upon multipliers + higher FSB @ 249mhz)):

http://img.techpowerup.org/060803/APK231FSBx12multiplierScienceMark2Score.jpg

My BIOS data for overclocking used:

LDT DATA:

CPU HTT Frequency = 4x

DRAM CONFIGURATION:

CAS# Latency Tcl = 2
Min RAS# Active Time Tras = 5T
RAS# to CAS# Delay Trcl = 3T
Row Precharge Time Trp = 3T
Row Cycle Time Trc = 10T
Row Refresh Cycle Time Trk = 13T
Read to Write Trwt = 3T
Write Recovery Time = 3T
1t/2t = 1t

JUMPER FREE CONFIGURATION DATA:

O/C Profile = Manual
CPU Frequency = 231mhz
PCI Clock = 100mhz
DDR Voltage = AUTO (cannot do over 2.6v on my RAM, tried it already 2x)
Chipset Voltage = 1.6V (max)
HT Voltage = 1.25V (max)
CPU Mult = 12x
CPU Volt = 1.5V (max)

:)

* That is about as good as I can get it... & WITHOUT using "Fractional Multipliers" as I did to bat off the 1401.20 I got using that...

I can change 1 more setting in my "Ram Memory timing-chain" #'s down a notch (RAS Precharge 2T down 1 from 3T) that I know of, & don't "bsod" but, I haven't passed it thru the ScienceMark 2.0 test yet (it is a good test of stability here, especially for MEMORY imo!)

APK

P.S.=> I don't know about "kicking" cdawall from the tests, but cheating on this stuff is really ONLY CHEATING YOURSELF!

If you do cheat it, you don't really get a GOOD IDEA of what your system can do by cheating on this test imo @ least, & thus only burn yourself... after all, there is ALWAYS some system that will beat yours in SOME capacity, if not this test, it will in others.

This I already know!

E.G. -> the Opteron 165 s939 CPU's "get the better of mine" here, batting scores like 1447 & 1500++ even already done by others here!

I.E.-> The idea for me in this test is to achieve the MOST STABLE o/c I can in this heatwave, so I hit a "perfect" year-round mark to set it @!

If it can stay stable & pass this test in this heat? It will FLY in the winter & it's colder ambient surrounding temps! apk

Alec§taar

08-03-2006, 02:46 PM

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/sep2004/7/5/0009E6F2-85D7-115A-A19D80C328EC0000.jpg

"Is there NO ONE ELSE!?!"

:)

* This ScienceMark 2.0 benchmark test - it's MORE than just that! It's also a heck of a way to test your stability of an overclock as well (2 programs for the price of 1, and a FREEBIE no less to boot!)

APK

P.S.=> "Bring 'em on" guys, especially those of you with REALLY fast rigs, & hopefully? Intel CONROE's as well... can't wait for THOSE to appear, just to see how things stack up vs. them... apk

cdawall

08-03-2006, 03:56 PM

het bs i did not set up the test for a mijic score i set up the test to get a correct score a$$hole

{JNT}Raptor

08-03-2006, 04:10 PM

het bs i did not set up the test for a mijic score i set up the test to get a correct score a$$hole

As far as I know...The test doesn't require any "set up" to run...simply open It and click on "Run all tests".

I still think It has something to do with your Over standard HTT value.

mikelopez

08-03-2006, 04:20 PM

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=109515

http://img.techpowerup.org/060803/science.jpg

Alec§taar

08-03-2006, 04:31 PM

het bs i did not set up the test for a mijic score i set up the test to get a correct score a$$hole

Don't sweat it man... he was only speculating!

:)

* If you are "Straight up" w/ us on this test, or not, it's NOT a "huge deal" imo... but it'd only be cheating yourself imo @ least if you're not being straight up & rigging the test data!

APK

P.S.=> Man! Look @ MikeLopez's score there... it takes "top-spot" honors away from the Opteron 165 users test scores even here earlier @ 1446 & 1579 iirc... apk

cdawall

08-03-2006, 04:33 PM

Alec§taar

08-03-2006, 04:37 PM

jnt i know that i just startede screwin w/ stuff after i ran all my test just ot see what options there were (after i ran the test at defaults) and after that i just went to see what other things there were (you know a longer test; a harder test etc.)

Ok, fair enough - messing around w/ it is good to do, but we all ran the "test defaults" for our results...

(See, you kind of HAVE to keep it that way! That is so we all are consistent & can compare our results w/ those of others!)

and from what i can tell we all just got beat by the intel core duo so there you go

We SURE did!

:)

* MikeLopez came in here today & SMOKED US ALL in this test, AND the SuperPi ones!

APK

P.S,=> Mike, 5ghz overclock over there or what, AND, is that an Intel CONROE result? apk

cdawall

08-03-2006, 04:42 PM

the only time i changed anything was on page 8 when i got ~1k for a test result

mikelopez

08-03-2006, 04:42 PM

Ok, fair enough - messing around w/ it is good to do, but we all ran the "test defaults" for our results...

(See, you kind of HAVE to keep it that way! That is so we all are consistent & can compare our results w/ those of others!)

We SURE did!

:)

* MikeLopez came in here today & SMOKED US ALL in this test, AND the SuperPi ones!

APK

P.S,=> Mike, 5ghz overclock over there or what, AND, is that an Intel CONROE result? apk

Indeed it is. Here is the validation link (which I already posted):

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=109515

Cheers!!! ;)

Alec§taar

08-03-2006, 04:53 PM

Indeed it is. Here is the validation link (which I already posted):

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=109515

Cheers!!! ;)

Friggin' AWESOME!

You are the FIRST PERSON HERE on these forums running an INTEL Conroe, & that's the e6300 model... heh, wait until the e6800 ones appear!

:)

* I was hoping somebody would show up w/ one of those CPU's in this test... thanks man!

STANDINGS SO FAR:

MikeLopez 1637
Urlyin 1537.93
Dj Dn 1446.18
Tigger69 1424.46
Myself 1401.20 (via 11x mult. X 249mhz FSB)
Myself 1401.11 (via 12x mult. X 231mhz FSB)
33 1395.99
Lekamies 1371.23
JNT Raptor 1334.32
cdawall 1030.50

(Heh, my "Corvette" is surrounded @ this dragstrip by Porches, Ferraris, & Lamborghini's FOR SURE!)

APK

P.S.=> MikeLopez's new Intel CONROE result - Man Alive: It's a real "performance look @ the future" imo @ least... apk

cdawall

08-03-2006, 04:57 PM

(Heh, my "Corvette" is surrounded @ this dragstrip by Porches, Ferraris, & Lamborghini's FOR SURE!)

that and my what??? honda (LOL)it beat most of you but you think my old car cheated w/ NOS

mikelopez

08-03-2006, 05:00 PM

I was trying to get some input all last month on this build but it kind of went under the radar.

Here is the link:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=14404

Alec§taar

08-03-2006, 05:03 PM

that and my what??? honda (LOL)it beat most of you but you think my old car cheated w/ NOS

Well, you admit to altering the test data used earlier, that much is certain! That alone sets things out of perspective man...

Can't you see that?

E.G.=> If I was told to pickup 52 cards & time it, and you are told to pick up only 24 cards & time it? Odds are, who is going to win??

(That's basically what happens when you rig a test w/ diff. conditions to exercise man!)

Plus, you also showed the SAME general scenario of error that my "SuperResult" screenshot did!

(Albeit in a diff. part of the test - yours in Primordia, mine in Molecular)

NOBODY can "beat that" result of 954520.24 of mine here to date, lol!

Thing is?

See... I KNOW that result of mine was b.s.!

Mainly, because its progressbar flooded out of its groupbox boundary range (lesser of two evils) BUT MORESO, because my molecular test result was SO FAR AWAY FROM THE OTHER TESTS SCORES I HAD (too much variation, & they tend NOT to vary that much)!

That's the MAIN CLUE, right there.

(Yours was no different man... same clues showing us something is "off")

Above all - This estimation of mine is nothing personal, because this is JUST a benchmark examination, but I have to admit I agree w/ the others in regards to your results because of those things...

That's all.

* Again - no big deal.

(You did put on a good showing though for a system of your makeup, Honda or not... it's a good system imo because it can finish the test & be quite radically o/c'd & such!)

APK

cdawall

08-03-2006, 05:08 PM

ok i ahve redownloaded SET TO DEFAULTS and am currently running sciencemark let us see what we get!

-edit ok got w/ a screen shot of primordia during the test just to make sure it seems to be a much more possilbe score

Urlyin

08-03-2006, 05:29 PM

het bs i did not set up the test for a mijic score i set up the test to get a correct score a$$hole

Another outburst like that and you won't need to worry about your mijic score... :slap:

I think we have been more than fair to you...

mikelopez

08-03-2006, 05:38 PM

I ran it at stock settings for shits and giggles:

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=109540

http://img.techpowerup.org/060803/science-stock.jpg

Alec§taar

08-03-2006, 06:04 PM

Ah, wtf? lol... double post!

Sorry!

APK

Alec§taar

08-03-2006, 06:04 PM

Quite a variation MikeLopez...

(Approximately 500 points worth!)

Still, you ARE the leader via your massive overclock & Intel CONROE #1 here afaik... good showing!

APK

P.S.=> Well, in ANY event?

I guess it's MikeLopez being able to say this (lol), now:

http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/icliverpool/sep2004/7/5/0009E6F2-85D7-115A-A19D80C328EC0000.jpg

"Is there NO ONE ELSE!?!"

:)

apk

cdawall

08-03-2006, 09:45 PM

sry urlyin it is just annoying to have ppl say you did something you didnt my bad it wont happen again as you can see it was prob just a bad copy of science mark that gave me the crazy score and now it is fixed w/ ~1k for a score

Urlyin

08-03-2006, 11:29 PM

Casheti

08-03-2006, 11:32 PM

Ich bin ein stück scheiße

Urlyin

08-04-2006, 12:51 AM

Ich bin ein stück scheiße

Casheti ... why are you a piece of shit?

Casheti

08-04-2006, 01:31 AM

Because I am...lol...I feel like it every day

tigger

08-04-2006, 11:04 AM

Dont Be So Fucking Wet!!!!!!!!!

Casheti

08-04-2006, 12:22 PM

lol

cdawall

08-04-2006, 04:25 PM

wow oc'd i came pretty close to mike 1100k stock e6300 maybe just maybe those intels are not the greatest thing after all

cdawall

08-04-2006, 04:50 PM

ukkkk got another crazy score man i really need to email that guy who wrote this prog but hey on the good side i beat mike lol:) :)

Polaris573

08-04-2006, 11:49 PM

http://img.techpowerup.org/060804/scimarkno.jpg

My P4 Northwood at 3.2GHz

_33

08-04-2006, 11:53 PM

My latest score, not breaking 1400 yet... Valueram................

tigger

08-05-2006, 12:27 AM

here ya go alec a bit better one-

http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/b45922betterw231.jpg

http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/b29911cpu-z-tempsn231.jpg

mem slightly higer at 4386mhz.

_33

08-05-2006, 12:33 AM

here ya go alec a bit better one-

http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/b45922betterw231.jpg

mem slightly higer at 4386mhz.

Hey! That's unfair! :cry:

:eek: Is that a watercooled rig?

infrared

08-05-2006, 12:37 AM

hehe, run for the hills... My uber P4 will be watercooled properly in a couple of days, and i'll give this a shot @ 4.9ghz :D

Casheti

08-05-2006, 12:49 AM

LMAO..TIGGER, ur pwning

Go on infrared...garden hose FTW!! Oh...btw, I spoke to Agent Smith...he said he's coming for you...

Hey wow, look at my shitty NON-OC'd Pentium D 920

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/9735/gaycpuzpy5.jpg

My board is SO bad...I don't even get a voltage reading...

tigger

08-05-2006, 01:21 AM

hey there 33.

no its not watercooled.i have a freezer 7 pro.the highet iv'e seen the temp is a rather toasty 60c.

i've been trying tonite,but it just wont do the 300fsb without h20 cooling i dont think.it will do 4.4 tho,just wont pass the science mark at that.

my ram is patriot pc7200 eased latency,rated at-450/900 at 5.5.5.15

here are two i have had it on-
fsb=280
ddr2=933
vcore=1.387v
speed=4200mhz
passes science mark at this.

fsb=295
ddr2=833
vcore=1.435v
speed=4425mhz
fails at this.

currently its at-
fsb=293
ddr2=880
vcore=1.435v
speed=4395mhz
here is a pass at these settings-
http://loader.sc0rian.com/users/public/w14997bit%20highero231.jpg
if anyone has any ideas for me too try,settings wise,feel free.

Azn Tr14dZ

08-05-2006, 01:42 AM

LMAO..TIGGER, ur pwning

Hey wow, look at my shitty NON-OC'd Pentium D 920

My board is SO bad...I don't even get a voltage reading...

That's what you get with an HP...

Azn Tr14dZ

08-05-2006, 01:45 AM

Steevo

08-05-2006, 01:52 AM

1360 To lazy to post a screenie

2.88 @ 1.65 vcore. Anything lower on vcore and I get issues.... need more power, must have more power!!!

08-05-2006, 02:02 AM

Just got my AMD Athlon 64 3200+ @ 2.67Ghz

Core Speed: 2.67Ghz
HTT: 267Mhz
Multiplier: 10x
Voltage: 1.525

I really wish I had watercooling, I can have this up to 2.0v!(But would never try it, maybe 1.7v)

Is it better to have a higher HTT? Is it better to have 300x9(2.7Ghz) than 270x10(2.7Ghz), will a higher HTT(or for you Intel guys "FSB") be better than a lower HTT at the same speed? I can get up to and past 400Mhz for HTT(FSB) at a lower multiplier.

Got to get some cooler to my baby too,altought i'm suprised it got to 2.5GHZ with the stock 1.4 voltage, and it keeps asking for more, got to try get to 2.6 with the stock cooler :toast:
Thinking of watercooling the Cpu too, on my favourite shop they sell some nice Watercooling Kits for a low price, better than thermaltake stuff
Here is one:

AQUAPC KIT WATERC. TECH I REV 2
Kit watercooling Aquapc - excelente investimento.
- Bloco Nexxxos XP light
- Radiador Nexxxos Pro
- Bomba Eheim S600 com reservatório
- Conectores de encaixe por rosca de fácil instalação e super seguros
- 2m Tubo PUR 10/8 qualidade
- 1 fan 120mm
Indicar em comentário o socket do processador (A64 , P4 775 , P4 478, AMD XP)
Em stock para todos os sockets !!! - (avaiable for all sockets)

€ 99.90

Too bad they don't have a AM2 cpu block yet :(

_33

08-05-2006, 02:08 AM

Got to get some cooler to my baby too,altought i'm suprised it got to 2.5GHZ with the stock 1.4 voltage, and it keeps asking for more, got to try get to 2.6 with the stock cooler :toast:
Thinking of watercooling the Cpu too, on my favourite shop they sell some nice Watercooling Kits for a low price, better than thermaltake stuff
Here is one:

AQUAPC KIT WATERC. TECH I REV 2
Kit watercooling Aquapc - excelente investimento.
- Bloco Nexxxos XP light
- Radiador Nexxxos Pro
- Bomba Eheim S600 com reservatório
- Conectores de encaixe por rosca de fácil instalação e super seguros
- 2m Tubo PUR 10/8 qualidade
- 1 fan 120mm
Indicar em comentário o socket do processador (A64 , P4 775 , P4 478, AMD XP)
Em stock para todos os sockets !!! - (avaiable for all sockets)

€ 99.90

Too bad they don't have a AM2 cpu block yet :(

Here is one good watercooling kit I'm looking to buy (http://www.guru3d.com/article/cooling/365/1/), for around 200$ usd. It really seems to be quite the best deal for a compact watercooling kit, and easy to install.

Alec§taar

08-05-2006, 02:35 AM

when i run it..it doesnt do the 1st 2 or 3 of them

That happened to myself as well, it would just "shut down" & TOTALLY disappear... it happens when you are o/c'd TOO far imo...

(Which is why I think of this benchmark as a stability test as well - mainly for memory stability since imo, the tests are VERY "memory-intensive")

That would happen to me, OR I would get "hung up" in the Primordia section, spitting out scientifically notated numbers & the loop counter wouldn't increment anymore & the only way to shut if off was taskmgr.exe kill process!

APK

08-05-2006, 02:53 AM

look like a great watercooling kit
My science mark score: 1256 :ohwell:
Probabily because of cheap ram

08-05-2006, 03:27 AM

cdawall

08-05-2006, 05:07 PM

that is not horrible but then again w/ a s754 3000 @2.44ghz i am getting about 1100

Solaris17

08-05-2006, 05:36 PM

this is with all services on regular desktop environ i run at.

second with all services off running 16 basic services at ~110 mb usage.

Devious

08-05-2006, 05:39 PM

:toast:

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/707/sciencemark2181xly2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Alec§taar

08-05-2006, 05:50 PM

:toast:

I am in error, my apologies!

(Didn't look @ your rig specs... my bad!)

APK

P.S.=> Sorry about that - like I said in a couple posts today, I am a WEE bit "out of it" due to last nite's shenanigans... ugh, hungover to HELL today! apk

Alec§taar

08-05-2006, 05:57 PM

Standings, thusfar, from all contestants WITH LEGITIMATE RESULTS, ONLY:

Devious 2181.97
MikeLopez 1671
Urlyin 1537.93
Dj Dn 1446.18
Tigger69 1431.51
Myself 1401.20 (via 11x mult. X 249mhz FSB)
Myself 1401.11 (via 12x mult. X 231mhz FSB)
33 1395.99
Lekamies 1371.23
JNT Raptor 1334.32
cdawall 1030.50
Polaris573 1001.86
Solaris17 855.05

:)

* Keep them coming!

This is interesting, imo @ least!

I love benchmark competitions for this reason: They are a testament to the skills of all "combatants" involved... especially on a field filled w/ folks into hardware!

A look @ who can build what, & how well!

(That statement of mine... it's subject to SOME given constraints though: Some folks have more resources ca$h-wise, & also technical know-how, plus some folks have newer/more "state-of-the-art" CPU's & RAM!)

Still, we all can gain by it, simply by looking @ the makeup of the systems involved - so we can gain insight into the NEXT rigs we all build!

APK

P.S.=> If I missed anyone's result, or was in error? Please: DO let me know... I will edit, appropriately as needed! I am WAY out of it today, hungover, lol... out too late last nite! apk

mikelopez

08-05-2006, 06:08 PM

Your result is in error!

See what we all wrote to cdawall thruout this thread...

(I.E.-> Note the single progress bar @ the bottom-most test being SO far out of sync w/ the other tests, & its progress bar sailing SO far out of range of the borders of its groupbox container... these are the clues of "bogus" results).

APK

P.S.=> NO OFFENSE intended, just statement of facts... apk

Seems legit to me. Especially judging by the specs in his sig.

BTW...My score was a 1671. ;)

Alec§taar

08-05-2006, 06:12 PM

Seems legit to me. Especially judging by the specs in his sig.

BTW...My score was a 1671. ;)

Yes, this is what I meant about correction - I merit it!

:)

* Reprehensible behaviour on my part? Absolutely... I didn't LOOK, before I lept, & omitted checking out his hardware spec!

APK

P.S.=> That's it, this is NOT my 'usual style' & that means I definitely am "off" today! I need more coffee today... lol, & some chow! apk

mikelopez

08-05-2006, 06:15 PM

Yes, this is what I meant about correction - I merit it!

:)

* Reprehensible behaviour on my part? Absolutely... I didn't LOOK, before I lept, & omitted checking out his hardware spec!

APK

P.S.=> That's it! I need more coffee today... lol, & some chow! apk

Dont worry, I dont blame you. We are all getting used to the fact that C2D is outrageous!!!

Devious

08-05-2006, 06:17 PM

Seems legit to me. Especially judging by the specs in his sig.

BTW...My score was a 1671. ;)

Thanks Mike,

Mike has an E6300 with 2mb cache running at 3Ghz, my E6600 with 4mb cache is running at 4.005 Ghz.

If Mike and I ran super_pi we would see roughly the same % difference due to to increase speed and cache.

Just to please you, I have reduced my overclock to 3.8GHz, notice the BLAS/FLOPS doesnt go off the scale now ?

**EDIT** I notice you have accepted my results whilst I was creating this post. Apology accepted ;)

http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/7489/sciencemark207738ghzgn8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Alec§taar

08-05-2006, 06:47 PM

Dont worry, I dont blame you.

Heh, well... I do! I knew I'd be paying for last nite today... & am, bigtime, lol!

We are all getting used to the fact that C2D is outrageous!!!

What is "C2D"?

APK

Devious

08-05-2006, 06:48 PM

What is "C2D"?

APK

Core 2 Duo :)

Alec§taar

08-05-2006, 06:49 PM

**EDIT** I notice you have accepted my results whilst I was creating this post. Apology accepted ;)

I had it coming... lol!

:)

* BOY! Do I hate being wrong, especially if it is TOTALLY my fault!

APK

P.S.=> Devious, I dunno... maybe your result before WASN'T non-legit! I have been saying this throughout this thread - one of us should write the developers of this program!

After all - if you're stable? That is what counts imo, the most...

Thing is though, you may find that o/c'ing won't show instabilities in ALL apps, & NOT right off!

E.G.-> I can & have run here @ 2828mhz & surf the web, etc. all day & such... but, try to "push" my system around w/ an intense app like this one, OR Folding@Home when turned up THAT high??

Forget it.

Again - one of us ought to write the coders of this program, just to get them over here to look @ results that "overflow" their progress bar borders & such, or freeze in tests!

(This though, I don't knock - it's the stability test portion of this benchmark program, imo @ least)...

However, the fact it "cracks up", does "SuperResults" (see one I did early on in this thread, a 9500000 type score, pure b.s.), & also just disappears off screen @ times even indicates to me they have omitted error traps!

Stuff like On-Error-GoTo VB statents, or Try Catch Except/Finally from Delphi, ASP.NET/VB.NET Try Catch stuff

I may take the initiative to do so myself, because it's a NICE program imo, & this may make a BETTER "ScienceMark 3.0"... apk

cdawall

08-05-2006, 06:49 PM

lol alec 1 bar being so far out thats kinda funny oh well conroe wins (when is amd going to get its butt in gear and release 65nm???)
btw i consider my score a liget glitch (lol)

Devious

08-05-2006, 07:19 PM

P.S.=> Devious, I dunno... maybe your result before WASN'T non-legit! I have been saying this throughout this thread - one of us should write the developers of this program!

After all - if you're stable? That is what counts imo, the most...

Thing is though, you may find that o/c'ing won't show instabilities in ALL apps, & NOT right off!

Maybe my conroe isnt 100% stable in all programs, but it has been so far. Im running @ 3.8Ghz 24/7 just because it only takes 1.46v rather than 1.55v for 3.94Ghz. Im not too happy with 1.55v 24/7 atm but its ok for benching.

Alec§taar

08-05-2006, 07:35 PM

Maybe my conroe isnt 100% stable in all programs, but it has been so far.

I don't doubt it... but,