Summary of first iPhone review impressions

[Dark Ride]

Since the first iPhone reviews are in, Engadget.com made an interesting list of features which the iPhone has ... or has not:


The mobile version of OS X or whatever it is the iPhone runs takes up 700MB of the device's capacity. Damn son!
There's no way to cut, copy, or paste text! WHOA! Big, big mistake.
No A2DP support. That, friends, is such a huge bummer right there.
Sorry, music can't be used as a ringtone -- even if it's just a raw MP3. No additional ringtones will be sold at launch.
On a PC the iPhone syncs with Outlook for calendars AND addresses! Noice.
It supports Exchange in some capacity, according to Walt, but he doesn't exactly say how.
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Pogue again confirms document file reading -- but not editing -- for PDF, Word, and Excel (only).
Adobe Flash support is officially out. It's just not in the browser. Neither is there any other kind of embedded video support. Sorry everybody, that's that.
It will take snaps, but won't record video. How can Apple love YouTube as much as it does and not realize cellphone-shot movies make up a sizeable chunk of the crazy crap you find on there?
Oh, and no MMS. And sorry, no voice dialing, either.
Contact groups can't be emailed as contact lists.
Apple sez between 300-400 charges the iPhone will lose battery capacity -- you'll send it in and get the cell replaced for a fee. Meh. We knew this would be the case, but still, meh.
Apple can (and supposedly will) be rolling out periodic updates -- no surprise there.
Battery life is, somehow, almost as mind-blowingly good as Apple claims for calls, music, and movies.
As we suspected, users are prompted with lists of WiFi networks if you're not nearby a trusted hotspot. We've seen this on other phones, and we're afraid this would get friggin annoying.
It's said to be very scratch resistant. The facade both front and rear apparently just doesn't pick up marring like regular iPods do.
Voice quality is said to be good -- not great.


Source: Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/26/iphone-facts-from-the-first-reviews/)

[Specsaver]

give us a ring when this yoke is priced like a phone should be - not more then 300 bucks

[demonbrawn]

.... I just can't bring myself to get one. OR stay with AT&T for that matter...

Edit: Oh wait, I just read one of the most hilarious things on that website:

How much will it cost?

LIke you care. As you already know, it'll be twice as expensive as other companies/ products with comparable features. But that doesn't matter, does it? No matter how much it costs, you'll feel special because you've bought an Apple product. If you forget how special you are, just look at your credit card statement.

Hahahah Apple certainly is special :roll:

[ktr]

Also, the phone is on the older 2.5G, rather than the high speed 3G.

[Wayward]

There is simply no logical reason to justify this. Forced 2-year contract, forced AT&T, $60 a month for a mere 450 minutes, $600 starting price, non-replaceable battery, last-gen speed, difficult interface... need I go on?

There is simply nothing good about this whatsoever. I can't believe so many people are eating the hype without question. It's not like there is an absence of viable alternatives that don't bear Apple's seal. :shadedshu

I cringe to think of the horror that would manifest itself if one were to say, drop the thing and watch the uncovered screen shatter... :eek:

[newbielives]

Without flash it can still watch vids from YouTube?

[WarEagleAU]

As Ive said before, its kind of retarded. Also, some of the stuff offered is old technology.

[Conti027]

my cell works fine so why do i need a $600 when mine was like $50.

[selway89]

my cell works fine so why do i need a $600 when mine was like $50.

Fashion statement perhaps? Some rich kid wanting to show off...

Meh just got a fancy interface thats all. Wouldnt buy one myself, but wouldnt turn one away for free.

[gromet]

There is simply no logical reason to justify this. Forced 2-year contract, forced AT&T, $60 a month for a mere 450 minutes, $600 starting price, non-replaceable battery, last-gen speed, difficult interface... need I go on?

There is simply nothing good about this whatsoever. I can't believe so many people are eating the hype without question. It's not like there is an absence of viable alternatives that don't bear Apple's seal. :shadedshu

I cringe to think of the horror that would manifest itself if one were to say, drop the thing and watch the uncovered screen shatter... :eek:


I plan on shorting apple after the end of the holiday in the next few days because you just named everything right there, then add a 5year exclusive contract w/ AT&T. So after your 2 year agreement is up, you can continue w/ AT&T or take your 600 overpriced/fragile copy of a zune :). Its good for apple because their niche market always forgets the flops they produce! It will take several revisions before this is even worth using as a phone...Its a phone, but from reviews I heard today it actually doesnt work very well in its primary role...but that might be AT&T, which your stuck to for 5 years!

[FAXA]

My phone has 1GB memory (on a stick which came with it), an mp3 player, plays a few movie files and it only cost £40.

[Assimilator]

News just in: Apple blows.

The sad thing is that the rich Apple whores will buy this piece of crap in their droves, thus giving Apple more money to produce more crap.

[von kain]

Voice quality is said to be good -- not great.
so in it's main course .....fails


after all it's a phone just a phone

p.s. no java people forget your application and games

[Jonnycat]

Nothing says, "I'm a wanker" like having an Apple product.

[hat]

Blackberry. Bluetooth. Win.
iPhone... lose. x50000000

[ryboto]

well, personally, if it weren't for the slightly ridiculous price tag, and a $60/month plan, I'd love one. Widescreen movie player, digital audio, wifi, "camera", multi-touch sensitive, and it's a phone. It's almost the all-in-one I've been waiting for. Simplistic interface, barely any buttons, stylish looks, unlike the tiny keyboard touting smart phones. Eventually you'll be able to buy something like this without a plan, and by that time I hope to see numerous improvements.

[Sovereign]

Nothing says, "I'm a wanker" like having an Apple product.

Nothing says, "I'm a bloody wanker" quite like Apple haters. :wtf:

Keep drinkin' that hatoraid! :slap:

[XooM]

Also, not having been mentioned in a long while, it's not really widescreen. it's some demented aspect ratio between 4:3 and 16:9.
and the internet is sloooow.
and 2 grand over 2 years for 450 minutes/month and 200 txt/month just blows. hard.
no noteworthy word on whether or not touch-sensitive keyboards suck... i suppose thats mostly a personal taste.
Also, the position-sensitive stuff sounds cool, but sounds retarded to me; like how it locks in some positions, unlocks in others etc... not everybody talks standing up. lots of people talk lying down. then again, who actually talks on a cellphone any more these days? i'm just a crazy old loon to do that.

[erocker]

I like my krzr. 2gb of micro flash memory, the battery lasts me a week, and the signal is good.

[ryboto]

Also, the position-sensitive stuff sounds cool, but sounds retarded to me; like how it locks in some positions, unlocks in others etc... not everybody talks standing up. lots of people talk lying down. then again, who actually talks on a cellphone any more these days? i'm just a crazy old loon to do that.

i thought it had a proximity sensor, so that when you do talk, the screen dims anyway....why would it matter what position the screen was in if you're talking anyway?

[aximbigfan]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

that thing is a piece of crap! even my cheepo cell phone can do most of the stuff that it cant!

anyway, i was expecting it to be a piece of crap, but man, crapple did a great job makign it worthless.

lol at all the isheep that bought it.

chris

[PVTCaboose1337]

I'm gonna put linux on it! ANd make my own distro!

[Dippyskoodlez]

I cringe to think of the horror that would manifest itself if one were to say, drop the thing and watch the uncovered screen shatter... :eek:

http://www.pcworld.com/video/id,545-page,1-bid,0/video.html

While not a terribly extensive stress test, its not a fragile device.

Apple sez[SIC] between 300-400 charges

Wtf kinda reporting is "sez"?

difficult interface... need I go on?


So, you've used it?!

omg where? and why?

LOL!!!!!!!!!!

that thing is a piece of crap! even my cheepo cell phone can do most of the stuff that it cant!



So.. your phone can...

Cut, copy and paste text?
Support Exchange?
EDIT word, excel and PDF files? Let alone, OPEN?
Email contact groups? Notice this is GROUPS, not CONTACTS. if you don't know the difference, GTFO.


Interesting. What cheap ass phone can do all of this while remaining as featureful as an iPhone? My Razr can't do any of that, and it wasn't cheap.

I really don't understand how they managed to get so many bullets out of what really are, 4 basic downfalls. And they really aren't even all that bad. Edit PDF's? How often do you do that? Not much. If you are, do you really need to be doing it on your phone?

I'm impressed though, an apple thread and theres nothing but shitting down apples neck for releasing a new product.
Someone posts a microsoft thread, everyone does the same.

What do people really want around here?

Voice quality is said to be good -- not great.
so in it's main course .....fails


http://www.wirelessinfo.com/content/Apple-iPhone-Cell-Phone-Review/Audio-Quality.htm

According to the numbers, audio is apparently............. pretty damn good.

Who says it sucks? I wanna see your phone benchmarks.

How many more false claims you apple haters wanna try?

[zekrahminator]

http://www.forumspile.com/Chill-Hobbes.gif

[Zero Cool]

apple is what brings the price of a product twice as high AND taking features OFF the product at once!!!

[Dippyskoodlez]

httwww.forumspile.com/Chill-Hobbes.gif

You fail zek. Completely. :slap:

[Sovereign]

So.. your phone can...

Cut, copy and paste text?
Support Exchange?
EDIT word, excel and PDF files? Let alone, OPEN?
Email contact groups? Notice this is GROUPS, not CONTACTS. if you don't know the difference, GTFO.

Interesting. What cheap ass phone can do all of this while remaining as featureful as an iPhone? My Razr can't do any of that, and it wasn't cheap.

I really don't understand how they managed to get so many bullets out of what really are, 4 basic downfalls. And they really aren't even all that bad. Edit PDF's? How often do you do that? Not much. If you are, do you really need to be doing it on your phone?

I'm impressed though, an apple thread and theres nothing but shitting down apples neck for releasing a new product.
Someone posts a microsoft thread, everyone does the same.

What do people really want around here?

Theres always going to be the loosers in the crowd, drinking all the hatoraid!

The fact is : Yes, theres always going to be something cheaper out there thats just as capable as the iPhone is but I just don't see why some people get so defensive and angry about it. Apple isn't making you buy their product and are fully aware of the less expensive alternatives on the market, either now or soon to come. Thats great, go buy those and just shut the f*ck up. Honestly, nobody cares how much some of you folks hate Apple and/or the iPhone, people are going to but it regardless and theres just not a damn thing you can do about it. Same thing goes for Microsoft as well. Most of us know linux is a viable alternative but it will never outsell Windows or become an OS that the majority of end users will choose to use over Windows. :wtf:

So, go cry me a river and keep on drinking that hatoraid! Apple will just continue to sell iPods and iPhones and theres not a damn thing any of us can do about it.

P.S - I don't own either and probably never will because they don't really do anything for me, nor do I usualy have the money to spend on such items but I'm not about to go cry to the world about it or start ripping on the manufacturer because they found a way to make it a top seller. You could pretty much use the XBox360 and Sony PS3 in this arguement as well.

[Wayward]

So.. your phone can...

Cut, copy and paste text?
Nope, but neither can the iphone.

I'm impressed though, an apple thread and theres nothing but shitting down apples neck for releasing a new product.
Someone posts a microsoft thread, everyone does the same.

What do people really want around here?
Linux.

How many more false claims you apple haters wanna try?

Apple haters? Maybe some here, but not me. I just refuse to accept the obvious hype, and prefer to look at things rationally. I think the iphone is a novel idea, but there are several issues that make it's purchase unjustifiable.

First, the price is exorbitant for a crippled device. For example, no MMS. Why would I want MMS when it has a full email client you may ask? Well, how about communicating with all my friends and family who have phones that don't support email? Can't send them a picture without it. And no, I won't insist they also all pay $600 for the thing just so we can continue to exchange pictures.

What else about it is crippled? Hmm, well it only won't record video! Come on now, even some of the cheapest phones nowadays do that. It's not that much to ask, considering Apple's consumer base is supposedly media savvy...

Second, the contracts. Each contract gives less minutes and costs more than any other plan out there. Then you're tied to it for at least two years. Cut and dry, that's lame.

The worst part about that contract is where it comes from. AT&T. If you have never had to deal with them, then consider yourself blessed. The very fact that the iphone is a AT&T exclusive was enough to make me not want it.

Finally, the alternatives. Yes they exist. For starters, the Nokia N95. It does about everything the iphone can't do (and everything it can) for the same price range. MP3 ringtones, exchangable battery, MMS, Flash, video capability, 3G network, 5mp camera instead of 2mp, memory card slot, A2DP, bluetooth file transfer, and the ability to run third party software not sanctioned by apple.

I'm sure I missed a few pointers there. Oh yeah, and the N95 was available, last year.

There are other contenders as well, many in lower price ranges that are still better featured than the iphone. And none of them require a lengthy, expensive contract to a single service provider.

So no, apple doesn't bother me, what bothers me are the masses of fanboys willing to throw their money all over apple for the sake of it's name, rather than it's substance. A little research makes it quite clear the iphone is lacking in the latter.

[Zero Cool]

Nope, but neither can the iphone.


Linux.



Apple haters? Maybe some here, but not me. I just refuse to accept the obvious hype, and prefer to look at things rationally. I think the iphone is a novel idea, but there are several issues that make it's purchase unjustifiable.

First, the price is exorbitant for a crippled device. For example, no MMS. Why would I want MMS when it has a full email client you may ask? Well, how about communicating with all my friends and family who have phones that don't support email? Can't send them a picture without it. And no, I won't insist they also all pay $600 for the thing just so we can continue to exchange pictures.

What else about it is crippled? Hmm, well it only won't record video! Come on now, even some of the cheapest phones nowadays do that. It's not that much to ask, considering Apple's consumer base is supposedly media savvy...

Second, the contracts. Each contract gives less minutes and costs more than any other plan out there. Then you're tied to it for at least two years. Cut and dry, that's lame.

The worst part about that contract is where it comes from. AT&T. If you have never had to deal with them, then consider yourself blessed. The very fact that the iphone is a AT&T exclusive was enough to make me not want it.

Finally, the alternatives. Yes they exist. For starters, the Nokia N95. It does about everything the iphone can't do (and everything it can) for the same price range. MP3 ringtones, exchangable battery, MMS, Flash, video capability, 3G network, 5mp camera instead of 2mp, memory card slot, A2DP, bluetooth file transfer, and the ability to run third party software not sanctioned by apple.

I'm sure I missed a few pointers there. Oh yeah, and the N95 was available, last year.

There are other contenders as well, many in lower price ranges that are still better featured than the iphone. And none of them require a lengthy, expensive contract to a single service provider.

So no, apple doesn't bother me, what bothers me are the masses of fanboys willing to throw their money all over apple for the sake of it's name, rather than it's substance. A little research makes it quite clear the iphone is lacking in the latter.

amen

[zekrahminator]

Now, if this thread erupts into a fiery volcano of fighting, I'm closing it.

[Zero Cool]

Now, if this thread erupts into a fiery volcano of fighting, I'm closing it.

amen to that too

[Dippyskoodlez]

What else about it is crippled? Hmm, well it only won't record video! Come on now, even some of the cheapest phones nowadays do that. It's not that much to ask, considering Apple's consumer base is supposedly media savvy...

Second, the contracts. Each contract gives less minutes and costs more than any other plan out there. Then you're tied to it for at least two years. Cut and dry, that's lame.


Hmm.

Looks like theres only 3 negatives left on the table. :laugh:

Who uses a 2 megapixel camera for video? :wtf:

You think theres a reason they didn't include it?

As for contracts, the only negative is that you have to use at&t. I'm sure it wont be long until its unlocked and hacked to pieces to work elsewhere though.

Most phones have a contract anyways. The iPhone plans are actually pretty decent plans, aside from the fact its tied to AT&T.

The problem isn't the contract it has, the problem is its tied to AT&T.

If you think the contracts suck, then well you must not pay your own cell phone bill :rolleyes:

What I want is a pre-paid plan for it...

[Mussels]

Nothing says, "I'm a wanker" like having an Apple product.

What about color co-ordinating your house, to go better with all the apple products you have?


"i cant wear those shoes, they dont go with my Ipod!"

[Zero Cool]

Who uses a 2 megapixel camera for video? :wtf:

whats wrong with 2mp for video? seems like plenty too me. its more like who uses 2mp for photo

[Mussels]

Depends on the people/storage space - if it was a dedicated camera, 5mp+ for sure. For a phone? 2mp is perfectly fine.

[Zero Cool]

Depends on the people/storage space - if it was a dedicated camera, 5mp+ for sure. For a phone? 2mp is perfectly fine.

yup 2mp photo camera is perfectly fine for a 200$ phone... or even 100$ not 600$!!!

[Wayward]

Who uses a 2 megapixel camera for video? :wtf:

Good point. :)

I'm sure it wont be long until its unlocked and hacked to pieces to work elsewhere though.

I hope so. Even though I still wouldn't buy it, I think AT&T is one of the biggest drawbacks.

If you think the contracts suck, then well you must not pay your own cell phone bill :rolleyes:

I use metroPCS, lol. $50 a month, unlimited minutes, no contract. It's not nationwide, but I really don't travel, so it works for me. :D

[Dippyskoodlez]

Depends on the people/storage space - if it was a dedicated camera, 5mp+ for sure. For a phone? 2mp is perfectly fine.

Storage is obviously a nonissue.

but why would you USE a 2mp camera? :wtf: Its like a watercolor slide show. Retarded. Use a friggin video camera if you need video.

Video on a 2mp camera is like direct x 10 features on a Geforce 4 MX. Sure, it'll run, but god. its USELESS.


And besides, anyone ebaying these is just an idiot.

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=66434CA6FE6500D6A04B9F946D779145 ?contentId=3641729&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1

:laugh:

[Zero Cool]

Storage is obviously a nonissue.

but why would you USE a 2mp camera? :wtf: Its like a watercolor slide show. Retarded. Use a friggin video camera if you need video.

Video on a 2mp camera is like direct x 10 features on a Geforce 4 MX. Sure, it'll run, but god. its USELESS.


so can I ask how is 2mp pictures better then 2mp camera?

[Dippyskoodlez]

so can I ask how is 2mp pictures better then 2mp camera?

I never said a camera was that useful either. The 2MP pictures are a lot more useful than a 2Mp video though.

You can atleast make out what something is supposed to be with a picture, a video will normally be shaky.

Not to mention a camera like that has MANY lighting adjustments being made realtime, if you're in anywhere with more than 1 different level of light, you get nothing but camera adjustments the entire video.

A picture can atleast wait to get into a decent shot.

[Jonnycat]

Nothing says, "I'm a bloody wanker" quite like Apple haters. :wtf:

Nothing says, "I'm a bloody fanboi wanker" quite like responding negatively to an an Apple hater. :roll:

[Dippyskoodlez]

What about color co-ordinating your house, to go better with all the apple products you have?


"i cant wear those shoes, they dont go with my Ipod!"

Whats wrong with brushed aluminum?

Where I work they have a full brushed aluminum kitchen all decked out. Its worth probably more than the house you live in atm.

Its beautiful. ;)

[Sovereign]

Nothing says, "I'm a bloody fanboi wanker" quite like responding negatively to an an Apple hater. :roll:

Yup, you got me! Even though I don't own any Apple products and don't plan to but damnit, I'M A FANBOI!!! I never once stated I liked Apple, ever but it gives me pleasure to rip into people who hate them for trivial or just plain stupid reasons. So, if that makes me a "FANBOI", then so be it! :rolleyes:

BTW, drink up! The hatoraid bowl is still pretty full! I'm pretty sure Apple is quakin' in their boots because a few dipsh*ts showing their overall ignorance on an internet message board! :nutkick:

Heck, I think I'll go run out and buy myself an iPod video and a new Mac Book Pro now... :rockout: :rolleyes:

[Dippyskoodlez]

Yup, you got me! Even though I don't own any Apple products and don't plan to but damnit, I'M A FANBOI!!! I never once stated I liked Apple, ever but it gives me pleasure to rip into retards who hate them for trivial or just plain stupid reasons. So, if that makes me a "FANBOI", then so be it! :rolleyes:

BTW, drink up! The hatoraid bowl is still pretty full! I'm pretty sure Apple is quakin' in their boots because some little dipsh*t is showing his overall ignorance on an internet message board! :nutkick:

Its clear, that people that bash products with no basis on a forum will make gigantic impacts on how a revolutionary product will sell.

Look at the iPod! Everyone hated it!


Oh wait, bad example.

[Sovereign]

Its clear, that people that bash products with no basis on a forum will make gigantic impacts on how a revolutionary product will sell.

Look at the iPod! Everyone hated it!


Oh wait, bad example.

:laugh: :toast:

That deserves a big fat thank you!

[Zero Cool]

Whats wrong with brushed aluminum?

Where I work they have a full brushed aluminum kitchen all decked out. Its worth probably more than the house you live in atm.

Its beautiful. ;)

dude we dont care even if the kitchen is made out of diamond.

[spud107]

its not a bad product but think its just a little overhyped, nokia s60 range pwn3s this though.

[Dippyskoodlez]

dude we dont care even if the kitchen is made out of diamond.

You missed the point.

Most of apple's higher end things are brushed aluminum and look really damn nice in a professional setting.

And imacs are White.

Theres no matching anymore. :roll:

The old colorful ibooks died a really... really long time ago....

Time to update your anti-fanboi generalizations.:p

[Jonnycat]

The hatoraid bowl is still pretty full!

... a few dipsh*ts showing their overall ignorance on an internet message board!

Oh, the irony!

[Sovereign]

Nothing says, "I'm a wanker" like having an Apple product.

Oh, the ignorance! :rolleyes:

[Sovereign]

its not a bad product but think its just a little overhyped, nokia s60 range pwn3s this though.

I agree as well, to a certain extent. However, people will like what they like and purchase regardless of knowing whether another product is superior or not. Take the iPod for example, there are a number of less expensive, fully featured alternatives out there but this has yet to stop Apple from making a killing in iPod sales. What I don't get is why so many people want to bash Apple for having a good selling product, for once, regardless if they think it's good or bad. The majority have spoken and the iPod is here to stay.

OK, nevermind most of that, I think it's a fairly incoherant rant as I'm dead tired atm... :ohwell: :D

[Jonnycat]

Oh, the ignorance! :rolleyes:

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3302/jackooh6.jpg

[Sovereign]

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3302/jackooh6.jpg

WoW! Thats one sweet pic of yourself! :respect:

I'm not so sure about those shades but that chin of yours is downright scary...

Anyhow, I appologize to everyone else for getting a bit off topic here!

[spud107]

cant help but think it wouldnt have gotten so much of a bashing had it been made by a different company with different marketing, but they could have put more into it to justify the price,
but with everyone saying only noobs will buy it it seems like the perfect phone for em as the advanced features would only cause confusion.

an this is slightly off topic but anyone think we need a smartphone section on the forums?

[Dippyskoodlez]

cant help but think it wouldnt have gotten so much of a bashing had it been made by a different company with different marketing, but they could have put more into it to justify the price,
but with everyone saying only noobs will buy it it seems like the perfect phone for em as the advanced features would only cause confusion.

an this is slightly off topic but anyone think we need a smartphone section on the forums?

The amazing thing is, apple advertises less than 90% of the other companys.

Remember the shitty LG Chocolate?

Advertised everywhere.

But if you pull up Digg, its everywhere(the iphone). Notice the reviews are all purchased? They aren't even handing phones out.

Why? because people are interested in it! :laugh:

[Zero Cool]

The amazing thing is, apple advertises less than 90% of the other companys.

Remember the shitty LG Chocolate?

Advertised everywhere.

But if you pull up Digg, its everywhere(the iphone). Notice the reviews are all purchased? They aren't even handing phones out.

Why? because people are interested in it! :laugh:

conclusion = people are stupid

[Dippyskoodlez]

conclusion = people are stupid

Leading by example? :)

[Zero Cool]

Leading by example? :)

the LG chocolate is great, its beautiful and has tons of features.

unlike apples products which some people seem to like. apple products just stand out like white shit on a black shoe.. people just buy it for the name.

most apple owners are 10-18 year old girls I bet

[Dippyskoodlez]

the LG chocolate is great, its beautiful and has tons of features.

unlike apples products which some people seem to like. apple products just stand out like white shit on a black shoe.. people just buy it for the name.

most apple owners are 10-18 year old girls I bet

You're great at arguing with yourself. :) As for ownership population, you'll likely find a majority of Apple product owners are mostly older than the average PC owner(Look at this forum. How many of you are under 18?). Why? They have a deeper price tag than a PC. Normally it takes a job to afford the higher end items, of which, people are usually more interested in a quality product, rather than a feature fluff'ed product.

If you wanna see a young age group blindly following a platform, go back to your windows Vista. Theres more 10-18year olds on this forum that own PC's than do macs(Though theres an obvious imbalance of ownership on this forum for obvious reasons, most of the very few mac people on this forum are older). Besides, if a girl is willing to learn OS X, thats +10 cool points for me. I only know of one.


I have a olympus digital camera.

It has a feature list 3 pages long.

Does that make my camera better than an iPhone?

Only if you use those features.


Thats why apple products do well. They are engineered around the most useful features, and aren't filled with retarded "hype fluff" of features noone ever uses.

Prime example: Video recording with a 2MP phone camera. Its a useless and retarded feature. Why waste space? :slap:

[Zero Cool]

You're great at arguing with yourself. :) As for ownership population, you'll likely find a majority of Apple product owners are mostly older than the average PC owner(Look at this forum. How many of you are under 18?). Why? They have a deeper price tag than a PC. Normally it takes a job to afford the higher end items, of which, people are usually more interested in a quality product, rather than a feature fluff'ed product.

10-18 year old GIRLS. they think its cool and get their PARENTS to buy them one...


Thats why apple products do well. They are engineered around the most useful features, and aren't filled with retarded "hype fluff" of features noone ever uses.

Prime example: Video recording with a 2MP phone camera. Its a useless and retarded feature. Why waste space? :slap:

errr, why do you keep saying that the 2MP phone camera is crap? the 2MP photo camera is then what? why the fuck did they waste the space to even put the camera on it?

[Dippyskoodlez]

10-18 year old GIRLS. they think its cool and get their PARENTS to buy them one...



errr, why do you keep saying that the 2MP phone camera is crap? the 2MP photo camera is then what? why the fuck did they waste the space to even put the camera on it?

To appease the masses. I'll admit, a 2MP camera on a phone is nice. Not because it takes good pictures, but because what they have proved over time- ZOMG BANK ROBBER! QUICK TAKE A PICTURE! :D


What does being female have to do with ownership of a mac anyways? Do I smell bias? :wtf:

Just FYI, a large majority of Mac sales are laptops. (And professional use Mac Pro's. Video encoding? Photoshop work anyone?)

http://www.macworld.com/news/2006/10/24/macbooksales/index.php

Almost one million of the 1.6 million Macs shipped in the last quarter are MacBook and MacBook Pros
How many 10 year olds have a macbook or macbook pro? Right. Where do you live? They apparently have too much money.

And I doubt parents just hand a kid a $2k Macbook Pro, unless they're say..... getting ready for college. I personally have much more respect for a female in college using a Mac than I would a PC, from just a "first impression" feel. Not because I'm a mac fan, because they're aware of something other that "lol, windows? Mine are big! And I just got new curtains!"

All of the females I've been in contact with that use a windows laptop are scared of it. My friend that got the macbook loves it. She's willing to try firefox, open office, and other new things like Adium instead of AIM.

[Zero Cool]

How many 10 year olds have a macbook or macbook pro? Right. Where do you live? They apparently have too much money.


Czech Republic :roll:

I was reffering to iPods not macbooks :banghead:

[Dippyskoodlez]

Czech Republic :roll:

I was reffering to iPods not macbooks :banghead:

I can name just as many that have shitty ripoffs of ipods too. ;)

iPods are in a completely different league from the computer market and cell phone market.

People buy ipods. People buy multiple ipods.

if ipods "sucked" then people wouldn't buy them. (Along with most other products, unless they're just dumb people)

General public says: "we like the ipod!"

And it says the same about the iPhone.

People buying things because of branding is because that brand has built a user base that likes the products.

Why do you buy AMD? Intel? Ati? Nvidia?

The product fits you. If you don't want it don't buy it and quit griping!

[Zero Cool]

Thw world's smallest form of penis compensation.

Make sure you wear your white headphones everywhere you go while struting around in your tight pants and white belt while listening to the latest Hawthorne Heights song. Who cares if you have no class or taste, you're cool.


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I bought one of these with my saved money. iPods are a waste of space on earth.

1. It holds more songs than anyone will ever own in their lives.
2. It says 12 hour battery life, but lasts for dick hours
3. Limited rechargeable battery - there are only a certain amount of charges you can use and then you have to pay a bazillion dollars for a new god damn battery.
4. Covering scratches easily, and if you don't want the screen to look like a cat was trying to find drugs in it, you have to buy a 50 dollar rubber case that yellows with time.
5. So overpriced for such a piece of shit. $420.00 CDN for it alone, and then a 3-year warranty which bumped it up to $508.00.

Seriously. Go die, Apple.

"Holy crap, you have an iPod! That's so cool! How many songs does it hold?"
"Five thousand."
"How many do you have on it?"
"About 200."
"Why the shit did you get a 20 GB then"
"........I could tell you, but then I'd have to kill you"


its what people think makes them cool.. sad but true

[Dippyskoodlez]

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its what people think makes them cool.. sad but true

Congratulations, 1,2,3 and 4 are either exaggerated or completely false.
I'm not even going to bother because you obviously believe them.

Let me know when theres something to base that opinion on, other than exaggerated lies.

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so, unless you have a something other than saying its e-peen, I'm afraid your posts really contain no argument.

The fact of the matter is the product sells. So its only going to encourage more similar products, or improved products.

In this world, something selling well is a sign of approval.

Obviously the rest of the world doesn't approve of the rest of the mp3 player market.

sucks to be in that market doesn't it?


But this thread is getting way off topic... almost, so please don't bother posting unless theres actual content to the post. Compensation is not an argument.


Apparently its possible to get one without a contract..

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070630/tc_nm/iphone_att_dc_3

Prepay = win.

I may have to get one in the future if you can prepay the minutes..