HD2600/2400 Series Overclocking and Feedback thread

[pt]

as the title says, post here your experiences with this cards :)

Members:

name - brand and model - core/ram
PT (1) - XpertVision HD2600XT SONIC 256MB GDDR3 @ 900/1053
PT (2) - Mobile HD2600 512MB DDR2 @ 573/486
Spliff - Sapphire HD2600XT GDDR3 @ 960/1100
Sovereign - MSI HD2600XT DIAMOND OC EDITION GDDR4 @ 850/1150
amd64best - Palit HD2600XT Xtreme 256MB GDDR3 @ 820/1030
Paradox - HIS Hightech HD2600XT 256MB GDDR4 @ 930/1143
JRodgA2k7 -Sapphire HD2600XT 256MB DDR3 @ 850/850
ashley - Sapphire HD2600xXT 256MB GDDR4 @ 857/1179
cyberloner - Xpertvision HD2600PRO GDDR2 @ 830/830
Dixxhead - Mobile HD2600 @ 700/570
ghost101 - Sapphire HD2600XT GDDR3 @ 891/792
nexion218 - Powercolor HD2600XT GDDR4 @ 945/1143
niko084 - MSI HD2600XT DIAMOND OC EDITION GDDR4 @ 950/1150
AthlonX2 - HIS HD2600XT 256MB GDDR4 @ 1020/1110

3dmark05:
Spliff - 13100
PT (1) - 11942
AthlonX2 - 11739
ashley - 11185
ghost101 - 11185
Paradox - 9154
Dixxhead - 7692
PT (2) - 6832

3dmark06:
Spliff - 6012
AthlonX2 - 5869
niko084 - 5777
ashley - 5596
PT (1)- 5559
ghost101 - 5348
Sovereign - 5318
JRodgA2k7 - 5199
Paradox - 4827
Dixxhead - 4133

[pt]

so far on the overclock i got:
857mhz on core (800mhz stock) maxxed i think
1007mhz on ram (700mhz stock, comes pre-oc from factory as 800mhx) still not maxxed :twitch:

http://img.techpowerup.org/070717/hd2600xt overclock.jpg
with no voltage options, nor vmods, i think they put gddr4 on mine for mistake :p

card: XpertVision HD2600XT 256mb gddr3 :)

[Tatty_One]

Very nice overclock ther PT!....whats the "toy" :) giving you in 2006? I think we should rejuvinate the 2005 club which is more GPU biased....well less CPU biased and see what these DX10 cards can do in that as all the benchies seem to be in 2006.

[pt]

the "toy" with no optimizations or tweaks gave me almost 5k and 10k on 05 :)
haven't run it since i'm overclocking so high

i agree with rejuvination of the 05 club :)

[Tatty_One]

the "toy" with no optimizations or tweaks gave me almost 5k and 10k on 05 :)
haven't run it since i'm overclocking so high

i agree with rejuvination of the 05 club :)

OK you do the first post on an optimised run and I will follow suit.....it's a deal.

[pt]

OK you do the first post on an optimised run and I will follow suit.....it's a deal.

i wil ltake a while for a optimized run :p
i'm going crazy atm with overclocking :rolleyes:
you start it :)

[pt]

03, 05 and 06 best run at 857mhz core, 1017mhz ram :)
for some reason 01 and aquamark crashes
:(
http://img.techpowerup.org/070717/3dmark03 857.1017.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/070717/3dmark05 857.1017.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/070717/3dmark06 857.1017.jpg

[DaMulta]

Not that bad on 06 for the price of that card.


Are you going to put it on water PT?

[pt]

prob, since now i have 240mm rad, and a 120mm rad :) this card is getting 58ºc with a house fan pointed at it
and since i'm prob going to get a job tomorrow at a national tech shop
(kinda like your's wallmart) monwy will start flowing, i already have my eyes on one

- Bloco VGA DangerDen Maze4 universal => 25€ :D

[Urbklr]

I got my HD2600XT today and overclocked it right away....i maxxed out the Catalyst Overclocking...which is 857 Core and 1179 Mem(i have the GDDR4 version). Im goina download AMD clock tool and try for higher.

[pt]

I got my HD2600XT today and overclocked it right away....i maxxed out the Catalyst Overclocking...which is 857 Core and 1179 Mem(i have the GDDR4 version). Im goina download AMD clock tool and try for higher.

857 is prob locked in bios
what's the stock ram speed?

[Tatty_One]

857 is prob locked in bios
what's the stock ram speed?

Easily unlocked then :D

[DaMulta]

Zip-tie your water cpu block on it:)

[pt]

Easily unlocked then :D

don't klnow how
can you do it?

[Urbklr]

Ya...interested in this bios unlock...as for AMD Clock tool it wont start.
My stock speeds are 800/1100
Catalyst only allows for small clock increases...it sucks :(
Im using stock cooling......62 Degrees Idle.....74 Degress load

[Tatty_One]

Just have to do a bios mod and flash the card.

[Urbklr]

what would i have to do to the bios?

[pt]

Just have to do a bios mod and flash the card.

software?

just click the gpu amd clock tool a gazilion times and
it will open, if not open task manager and end the programm process

[Urbklr]

Yeeehaaa, clicked her once and it opened right up. My results will be up very shortly.

[Urbklr]

My results=WTF........I can only get 1145Mem on AMD Clock Tool and still stuck at 857....we need to modify the bios i believe...if i go anywhere over those numbers then it goes to a black screen. I can get 1.18GHz Mem on CCC and that is the max of the slider so there has to be room for more...but how???

[pt]

can you say what's written on the ram chips?
and we wan't MARKS! :p

[Urbklr]

Ummm...i have Dialup so 3dmark will have to wait a bit till i get somewhere with highspeed(i had 06 on a cd but i stepped on it and it broke)
I dont know if i wana take the heatsink off.......im kinda lazy:( but ill think about it.

[pt]

sen me a link of the pic of the card

[Urbklr]

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/HD_2600_XT/images/memory.jpg
theres a link

[pt]

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/HD_2600_XT/images/memory.jpg
theres a link

you sure that's the ones?

[Urbklr]

pretty sure

[pt]

Part Number Max Freq.
K4U52324QE-BC06 1.6GHz
K4U52324QE-BC07 1.4GHz
K4U52324QE-BC08 1.2GHz
K4U52324QE-BC09 1.1GHz - seems like no overclock for you

[Urbklr]

huh...ill have to check for sure tommorow

[Tatty_One]

don't klnow how
can you do it?

Dump the existing bios, you can do that thru ATi tool, mod it using an editor (available in the downloads section), use ATi Flash to reflash the new BIOS.....making sure of course that you have taken a backup copy of your old BIOS and put it on a bootable floppy in case it does not work....thats the basic details and not a guide of course, may of us can help with that if you decide to do it, I have done it a couple of times in the past and not had a problem.

[Urbklr]

Im planning on doing the flash...what do you edit in the bios?

[Urbklr]

Atitool wont dump the bios:(

[pt]

Dump the existing bios, you can do that thru ATi tool, mod it using an editor (available in the downloads section), use ATi Flash to reflash the new BIOS.....making sure of course that you have taken a backup copy of your old BIOS and put it on a bootable floppy in case it does not work....thats the basic details and not a guide of course, may of us can help with that if you decide to do it, I have done it a couple of times in the past and not had a problem.

no tool works :mad:, they all say it's not a aticard
i can dump bios tho :)

[Urbklr]

How did you dump the bios?

[pt]

miscellanous, save vga bios file

[Tatty_One]

Strange, you using Rabit? found here to edit:

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/283/RaBiT_Bios_Editor_v2.2.html

And then flashing with:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/596/ATIFlash_3.41.html

[pt]

yes
no luck :(

[Urbklr]

I cant dump bios on my card...it gives me a error. I just ran 3Dmark06..it would only start with -nosysteminfo and when i click to get my results, it says "Submission Failed"...what is wrong?

[pt]

I cant dump bios on my card...it gives me a error. I just ran 3Dmark06..it would only start with -nosysteminfo and when i click to get my results, it says "Submission Failed"...what is wrong?

just printscreen the results

[Urbklr]

I have the free version and i needed to view my results in the orb, but it didnt open....but i did get it to work
857MHz Core / 1179MHz Memory

4917 3Dmarks
1709 SM2
2222 SM3
1973 CPU (in previous runs with my x1950pro it pulled over 2000 cpu marks..so room for improvement...)
My x1950Pro got like 4.8K

[pt]

i beat you in all of them :)
seems like gddr4 doesn't help much if it ain't at much higher speeds
did you find out wich are the ram chips?

[Urbklr]

not yet....been busy playing games i could never play with my x800 :)

[pt]

"in previous runs with my x1950pro"
what about this one?

[Urbklr]

What do you mean?
BTW i checked my memory...it is the 1.1GHz one:(

[pt]

I have the free version and i needed to view my results in the orb, but it didnt open....but i did get it to work
857MHz Core / 1179MHz Memory

4917 3Dmarks
1709 SM2
2222 SM3
1973 CPU (in previous runs with my x1950pro it pulled over 2000 cpu marks..so room for improvement...)
My x1950Pro got like 4.8K

what happened to the card :S
it's better than your current in games ;)

[Urbklr]

......GO BOOM:( R.I.P.

Not really, the VRM's died....i didnt cool them when i put a Zalman VF700-Cu on it

[pt]

warranty? :S

[Urbklr]

The stickers were pulled of the back and i was told it needs the stock cooler to be sent back...i had it but not the screws to hold it on....i just bought a x800 till this card....and im selling this one for 100 bucks and buying a 2900 in a couple weeks :)

[Tatty_One]

PT, can you upload your bios file dump into here so I can have a look and play please.

[pt]

http://rapidshare.com/files/45345800/bios.bin.html
play all you want :)

[amd64best]

I have Palit HD2600XT Xtreme. The stock clock VPU/Ram = 800/800. Now I can overclock to 820/1030 using Rivatunner. But When I tried to mod bios with Rabit. The program is fault and said that it didn't know the bios of HD2600XT.

I tried with Rabit 2.2.1 but I still not work. Anybody can mod and flash the new bios of HD2600XT?

[pt]

I have Palit HD2600XT Xtreme. The stock clock VPU/Ram = 800/800. Now I can overclock to 820/1030 using Rivatunner. But When I tried to mod bios with Rabit. The program is fault and said that it didn't know the bios of HD2600XT.

I tried with Rabit 2.2.1 but I still not work. Anybody can mod and flash the new bios of HD2600XT?

can you check what chips do you have on ram? :)

[Tatty_One]

PT, that bios u provided was no good, could you dump it again, rename it as a .txt file and upload it in here please, I am in the mood for some serious work! Just modded a couple of others so am ready to go (not 2600XT's tho).

[pt]

http://rapidshare.com/files/45763968/bios.txt.html :)

[amd64best]

can you check what chips do you have on ram?
My chip is Qimonda BF-10.

[pt]

My chip is Qimonda BF-10.

same as mine
they're rated for 1ghz speed :)

[Paradox]

It's a great card... overclocking sucks but heh.

4800~ 3dmarks for me

[pt]

It's a great card... overclocking sucks but heh.

4800~ 3dmarks for me

06?
and how much overclock
wich model, etc..

[Tatty_One]

http://rapidshare.com/files/45763968/bios.txt.html :)

Still not working and it's too small, I think its because, if you look....rapidshare html's it, you can do it in here if you make it a text file rather than using Rapidshare as I have done....here:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=35996&page=2

[pt]

done :)

[Paradox]

06?
and how much overclock
wich model, etc..

06'

HIS Hightech HD2600XT 256MB GDDR4 no overclock on anything.

Also, proof

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c66/PaRaDoX_seal/computer/GPU.png

[pt]

I have Palit HD2600XT Xtreme. The stock clock VPU/Ram = 800/800. Now I can overclock to 820/1030 using Rivatunner. But When I tried to mod bios with Rabit. The program is fault and said that it didn't know the bios of HD2600XT.

I tried with Rabit 2.2.1 but I still not work. Anybody can mod and flash the new bios of HD2600XT?

how much ram
and pls everybody check 1st post :)

[Tatty_One]

OK PT, want you want from the BIOS.....can I mod it?

[pt]

OK PT, want you want from the BIOS.....can I mod it?

correct the bug that there is on the bios (according to w1z) that won't let me go over 857mhz
and see if there is voltage adjustments
ps: do you have msn/yahoo?

[Tatty_One]

correct the bug that there is on the bios (according to w1z) that won't let me go over 857mhz
and see if there is voltage adjustments
ps: do you have msn/yahoo?

Still cant get it to open :cry: E mail it to me in it's origional rom/bin file as an attachment, I will PM you my e mail address, then I will sort the damn thing for ya! Then I will get it done (if I can) by tomorrow.

[pt]

Still cant get it to open :cry: E mail it to me in it's origional rom/bin file as an attachment, I will PM you my e mail address, then I will sort the damn thing for ya! Then I will get it done (if I can) by tomorrow.

:(
sent email

[Paradox]

These cards do run cool with the 7.7 drivers but when you use the 7.8's under vista the temps get up there in Lost Planet. My guess is that the GPU is actually getting used.

Mine hit 91c while playing and started to artifact a little.

The 7.8 driver for XP does not seem to work too well.

VendorID: 0x1002
DeviceID: 0x9588
SubSysID: 0x25421002
Revision: 0x0000
Driver: ati2dvag.dll
Description: ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
Memory bandwidth (0 + 32/32): 819 MB/sec
Memory bandwidth (16 + 32/32): 1023 MB/sec
Memory bandwidth (32 + 32/32): 1231 MB/sec
GPU fill rate, single-texture (16/0): 103 Mtexels/sec
GPU fill rate, multi-texture (16/0): 205 Mtexels/sec

That gives me the max playable reso of 800x600.

When I ran that under 7.7's it was

Memory bandwidth (0 + 32/32): 22775 MB/sec
Memory bandwidth (16 + 32/32): 27240 MB/sec
Memory bandwidth (32 + 32/32): 28968 MB/sec
GPU fill rate, single-texture (16/0): 2913 Mtexels/sec
GPU fill rate, multi-texture (16/0): 5832 Mtexels/sec

And 7.8's under vista 32 is...

Memory bandwidth (0 + 32/32): 19821 MB/sec
Memory bandwidth (16 + 32/32): 24779 MB/sec
Memory bandwidth (32 + 32/32): 26746 MB/sec
GPU fill rate, single-texture (16/0): 2565 Mtexels/sec
GPU fill rate, multi-texture (16/0): 5154 Mtexels/sec

Welp, hope the drivers get better soon. Along with overclocking.

also, cooling is essential.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c66/PaRaDoX_seal/Review/DSCN0196.jpg

[Tatty_One]

:(
sent email

sent one back, attach the file and i'll pick it up in the morning...see what I can do and get back to you during the day....dunno what the problem is with yours, it was not allowing me to move it back from text file, the e mail should do it tho.

[pt]

sent one back, attach the file and i'll pick it up in the morning...see what I can do and get back to you during the day....dunno what the problem is with yours, it was not allowing me to move it back from text file, the e mail should do it tho.

nop :(

[pt]

These cards do run cool with the 7.7 drivers but when you use the 7.8's under vista the temps get up there in Lost Planet. My guess is that the GPU is actually getting used.

Mine hit 91c while playing and started to artifact a little.


91ºc???
:eek::eek::eek::eek:
mine hit's 60ºc under 3dmark06 at overclocked speeds :eek:

[Urbklr]

Cant you attach the bios as a zip?
Does anyone know any other programs i could try so i can get my bios file?

[Paradox]

91ºc???
:eek::eek::eek::eek:
mine hit's 60ºc under 3dmark06 at overclocked speeds :eek:

Now play some DX10 for an hour, and watch the temps

[Urbklr]

Hey....just wondering...what settings do you play Lost Planet at?

And mine doesn't pass 75º

[Urbklr]

Also has anyone noticed that the cards never hit 100% fan speed? I set it at 100 and the temps decreased quite a bit, and it wasnt all that noisy...i ran it at 70% and it had good temps and was quite.

[Paradox]

Everything maxed except AA

[Urbklr]

Come again??????? I run it at medium everything at 640x386 and get a solid 30FPS...how in hell do you run it maxed?

[Paradox]

What drivers are you using?
Also If someone tells me what they used to dump the bios I have a web site I can host it on.

[pt]

i'm using 7.7 and play all my games maxxed but with litte or no aa
edit:
i used atitool to dump it

[Paradox]

ATi tool says I don't have a ATi graphics card installed

[pt]

ATi tool says I don't have a ATi graphics card installed

what drivers are you using?

[Urbklr]

I use some 8.39 beta thingy....in the performance test how many FPS do you get and at what resolution?(in lost planet)
ATitool wont dump my Bios ethier and im using 7.7 for XP

[Urbklr]

PT what games do you play and at what resolution?

[Paradox]

snow is 22 and cave was 25 with no AA and in windowed

Turns out it was no high, the program kept crashing when I changed the setting. I finally got it to do it and came out with 9/9

[pt]

bf2 - 1024x768 everything maxx, 2aa
bf2 hate every ati card i own, this is no exception

c&c 3
1280x1024 evertying maxxed , almost full aa

medieval 2 total war
1280x1024 strategic map
1024x768 battle map
4x anisotropic
0 aa
all at high settings
i can play at max settings except with a 1000 + soldiers, and my battles are always 1000 vs 1000, so no luck there
if all goes well, i'm crossfiring by the end of september :)

[Urbklr]

http://img.techpowerup.org/070730/3dmark2600xt956.png

Thats my new 3Dmark06...its a improvement. i used 7.7 instead of the 7.5's i was using earlier

I run HL2 maxed at 1280x1024 4xAA 8xAF, BF21242 at 1280x1024 maxed no AA 8xAF, and DiRT at medium 1024x768 no AA 8xAF

[Paradox]

Here's some over clocking results. Just with CCC.

3dmark05
8861
oc'd 9154


3dmark06
4464
oc'd 4684


CoJ
min 5.2
max 15.2
avg 8.6
oc'd
min 4.3
max 21.5
avg 9.2
CoH
avg 35.1
max 62.0
min 4.5
oc'd
avg 36.7
max 61.9
min 16.9

[pt]

06'

HIS Hightech HD2600XT 256MB GDDR4 no overclock on anything.

Also, proof

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c66/PaRaDoX_seal/computer/GPU.png

you already have a better 06 score

[Paradox]

That was under XP, these are all with Vista

[JRodgA2k7]

Hey guys new to the forums and a fellow 2600xt DDR3 owner, mines being a sapphire.

My highest overclock so far on it is just 830Mhz core and 850mem which from looking at you guys clocks I can clearly achieve much higher on the mem and the 857core clock which I will do tonight now doubt.

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2590821

3DMark Score 5128 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 1795 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 2193 Marks
CPU Score 2448 Marks

Using the new 7.8beta's (8.40's) and I see a lot of you are using ATi Tool AND AMD GPU overclocker to get your clocks. How are you doing this? Anytime I try to make a clock stick on these programs the program will either crash...AMD GPU or not stick with the settings and revert to stock....ATi Tool.
Is this because I am using the beta drivers and not the current official 7.7 release?

Usually on OCuK but you guys seem to be the only thread on the net looking to clock these babies :D Any help would be great

[pt]

hi
the 857mhz is easy to achieve, are you using vista or xp?
and check what is written on the ram chips
atitool doesn't work atm
and nice score, for such a lower clocked card :)

[JRodgA2k7]

hi
the 857mhz is easy to achieve, are you using vista or xp?
and check what is written on the ram chips
atitool doesn't work atm
and nice score, for such a lower clocked card :)

Yeah thought that myself, a decent score with around 150+increase due to the drivers.
Using xp for gaming vista for all my other crap I do. So mainly XP :P
I'll investigate the ram tonyte in a few hours after I finish work. Will I need to use an official set of drivers to get AMD GPU tool working correctly or could it have been because I tried clocking the card automatically which in turn would have let the card go over 857mhz core?
I think it may just be the core issue that put me off the AMD GPU tool but I shall investigate the ram later.

Fingers crossed for a good set :D Plus very pleased I went for the DDR3 over the DDR4, not worth the extra imo

[JRodgA2k7]

Just checked my ram :(
Its actually not Samsung branded its only that of Qimonda which does a max of 1Ghz! When running AMD GPU Tool the artifacts began around 890Mhz so I've pretty much hit the limit on my card im thinking. Pretty disappointed but im getting good performance from my clock as you can see ;)

[Paradox]

your memory needs more voltage.

[pt]

Just checked my ram :(
Its actually not Samsung branded its only that of Qimonda which does a max of 1Ghz! When running AMD GPU Tool the artifacts began around 890Mhz so I've pretty much hit the limit on my card im thinking. Pretty disappointed but im getting good performance from my clock as you can see ;)

mine are quimonda rated to 1ghz and are sitting happily at 1017mhz :)
you sure it isn't the heat or something else»

[JRodgA2k7]

Only temp I have is the core temp which is sitting @ 40idle now since I applied Arctic Silver 5 and around 58 load. Might just be a bad batch but again is there any tool to increase the voltage of these cards? And what would be a safe level?

[Paradox]

Hmm, is it just me or are these cards little long?

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c66/PaRaDoX_seal/computer/101_6978.jpg

[Urbklr]

Yea there 9 inches! The GDDR3's are like the size of my x800. GDDR4's are more like 60 dollars more and 3 inches longer for little performance increase......but i hate short cards......makes it look to budget minded for me :)

[JRodgA2k7]

Score update :)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2655071

3DMark Score 5168 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 1821 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 2216 Marks
CPU Score 2393 Marks

Albeit my CPU is clocked lower @ 2.74Ghz as I am still trying to get my system completely stable. I cant believe some of you guys arent using the 7.8 beta drivers they are superb :)

Anyways that was just a core of 845Mhz and 850Mhz ram!

Oh and the DDR3 card is tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiny lol!

[Urbklr]

I would use the 7.8's......but dialup limits my downloading ability:(

[JRodgA2k7]

Update further ;P

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2656236

3DMark Score 5199 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 1829 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 2226 Marks
CPU Score 2437 Marks

CPU now @ 2.79GHz 2600XT@ 850mhz core and 850mem

[pt]

updated
post your results also here:

gddr3 cards - http://www.hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=GPU_1194
gddr4 cards - http://www.hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=GPU_1144

[pt]

7.8 delivered a great boost for me
what about you?

[Urbklr]

Yea i got like 10-15 more fps in most games and thats in vista(which i now run full time)

[pt]

quick run
http://img.techpowerup.org/070814/3dmark05 857.981.jpg

[DaMulta]

is 857 the max out point??

[pt]

is 857 the max out point??

i saw some at 860, i'm waiting for ketxxx to take a look at the bios to see if he can somehow fix it :)

[Tatty_One]

i saw some at 860, i'm waiting for ketxxx to take a look at the bios to see if he can somehow fix it :)

Download your bios in the bios collection downloads section and I'll sort it :D Be useful for others also to compare.

[pt]

Download your bios in the bios collection downloads section and I'll sort it :D Be useful for others also to compare.

uh?
you mean upload?
you forgot we already spoke about it :p
no programms opens it, and ketxxx says the bios is different from the common ati bios :banghead:

[Tatty_One]

I did mean upload yes, no I understand the problems, just though that uploading it to the site may work....never mind :ohwell:

[pt]

I did mean upload yes, no I understand the problems, just though that uploading it to the site may work....never mind :ohwell:

will do anyway :)

[pt]

i need to send a mail to w1z, with a attached file prob
will do later :p

[ashley]

hi !

I've just received my sapphire 2600xt gddr4
and I have the same problem
max freq : core 857 ram : 1179
ati tool 0.27b2 is just good for monitoring
amd overclocking tool does not work verry well (freeze while increasing frequency)
then rivatuner does not allow to overclock more than the ccc :/

so if I can be helpfull, tell me ;)
I posted my benchmarks on hwbot
http://collabo.free.fr/overclock/2600/screens/3d_01_43305.jpg
http://collabo.free.fr/overclock/2600/screens/3d_03_16792.jpg
http://collabo.free.fr/overclock/2600/screens/3d_05_11185.jpg
http://collabo.free.fr/overclock/2600/screens/3d_06_5596.jpg

thx !

[Urbklr]

Anyone notice that the ATi Overdrive feature got a makeover in the 7.8's???I wonder why they didn't increase the amount you can overclock....

[ashley]

good question, I have the 7.8 and it's the max I can have 857/1179

[Urbklr]

I wonder why ATi even bothered adding the overdrive feature if it gives you so little headroom...

[pt]

hi !

I've just received my sapphire 2600xt gddr4
and I have the same problem
max freq : core 857 ram : 1179
ati tool 0.27b2 is just good for monitoring
amd overclocking tool does not work verry well (freeze while increasing frequency)
then rivatuner does not allow to overclock more than the ccc :/

so if I can be helpfull, tell me ;)
I posted my benchmarks on hwbot
http://collabo.free.fr/overclock/2600/screens/3d_01_43305.jpg
http://collabo.free.fr/overclock/2600/screens/3d_03_16792.jpg
http://collabo.free.fr/overclock/2600/screens/3d_05_11185.jpg
http://collabo.free.fr/overclock/2600/screens/3d_06_5596.jpg

thx !

2nd place
congratz! :)
on 01 at high speeds i crash, and i can't run aquamark
wil ladd you later

[ashley]

thx
me too when I test aquamark I have a kind of black screen at the end instead of results.

[pt]

thx
me too when I test aquamark I have a kind of black screen at the end instead of results.

me too
on a particular test (don't remenber wich) it crashes

[ashley]

I had too an error message sometimes during the test or at the end

[pt]

updated :)
going to try to win 06 record

[pt]

http://img.techpowerup.org/070818/3dmark06 857.990324.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/070818/3dmark05 857.990.jpg

wooooot :)

[ashley]

hi!

nice 2005 !
more details about your config ?

[pt]

hi!

nice 2005 !
more details about your config ?

see my systen specs under my av :)

[InfDamarvel]

Some of your 06 scores seem to be beating 1950pros, Do you feel it in games after overclocking. What kind of improvements are you having in games vs stock.

[pt]

Some of your 06 scores seem to be beating 1950pros, Do you feel it in games after overclocking. What kind of improvements are you having in games vs stock.

i haven't played much games with it overclocked since amd gpu clock tool doesn't work very well for long :banghead:
but i did saw some good improvements on the brief minutes i played with it oc (S.T.A.L.K.E.R.)
but on games any x1950gt or pro will nutkick me

[Urbklr]

WOW...nice score PT! I wonder how the 2600 would do against the x1950pro in shader heavy games such as Oblivion??

[pt]

WOW...nice score PT! I wonder how the 2600 would do against the x1950pro in shader heavy games such as Oblivion??

it would be raped prob
:nutkick: < like this
128 bits are this card weak point

[cyberloner]

pt wrongly dump the bios... atitool bios dump is a corrupted bios....
the actually way to dump the bios at the moment i found is using atiflash latest ver and
type (at dos)
atiflash -s 0 YourBiosName.bin

i got a xpertvision or palit 2600pro here (default 600 Core 700 memory)
and still wait for rabit support to mod the bios...
tried to clock...to 800mhz but keep hang at 3d mark 06 hdr ( canyon flight )
best clock at the moment 780mhz with 810mhz ram

[pt]

pt wrongly dump the bios... atitool bios dump is a corrupted bios....
the actually way to dump the bios at the moment i found is using atiflash latest ver and
type (at dos)
atiflash -s 0 YourBiosName.bin

i got a xpertvision or palit 2600pro here (default 600 Core 700 memory)
and still wait for rabit support to mod the bios...
tried to clock...to 800mhz but keep hang at 3d mark 06 hdr ( canyon flight )
best clock at the moment 780mhz with 810mhz ram

oh
didn't know that, thanks :)

[pt]

well
how do i get it, when i ran the programm it says click any key and then it closes :S

[cyberloner]

use floppy disk...
format to be bootable in dos...
copy and extract the atiflash from here http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/596/.html
extract all atiflash files to floppy....
boot from it and type the command i told u... must in pure dos...
(just incase that question is fire at me) =)

[pt]

use floppy disk...
format to be bootable in dos...
copy and extract the atiflash from here http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/596/.html
extract all atiflash files to floppy....
boot from it and type the command i told u... must in pure dos...
(just incase that question is fire at me) =)

it was fired at you
thanks :)
i'm too lazy to go look for a diskete drive+fdd cable and a diskete, and tomorrow i'm going on hollyday
so this will have to wait :(

[Dexx]

Which of the available bios editors can do the 2600 series? Is there a repository of 2600 bios?

[cyberloner]

no such tool yet... waiting rabit update maybe...

[Sovereign]

I guess you can throw me in the mix, PT.

Just waiting on the AS5 to cure a bit and for my new Zalman ramsinks to come in before I start OC'ing my MSI HD2600XT GDDR4 Diamond OC Edition video card so right now it's just stock @ 850/1150 (2300 effective). I'm definitely hoping to break the 6k mark in 3DMark06 when all is said and done.

Which of the available bios editors can do the 2600 series? Is there a repository of 2600 bios?

I'll be adding mine to the TPU database in a short while.

[Urbklr]

Break 6k?? Would that be posible on these cards??

[Sovereign]

Break 6k?? Would that be posible on these cards??

I'm really hoping so! It's been nearly done with the GDDR4 version! Check it out over @ hwbot.org "ATI HD2600XT GDDR4" (http://www.hwbot.org/quickSearch.do?hardwareId=GPU_1144) and more specificaly @ http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=634886 . The card I have is already factory clocked at his OC speeds and with the extra cooling help I plan to add to mine, will hopefully give it enough umph to do the trick.

[Urbklr]

Can you get yours past 857 Core??

[Sovereign]

Can you get yours past 857 Core??

Now that seems to be the question! I'm also hoping so since the guy who is in second place in the 3DMark06 HD2600XT GDDR4 scores has his up to 860 core and 1260 or something memory speeds and thats on the standard GDDR4 model. I also plan on using the new 1050 release of ATI Tray Tools to OC the card instead of Overdrive. As I said before, I won't know until probably wednesday what kind of performance I can push out of my card, thats when I receive my zalman ramsinks and a few other cooling components I plan on using.

[cyberloner]

newest rivatuner can clock better and stable to 3d mark ...
amd gpu clock tools just a buggy temporary oc only...
guys check it out

[Sovereign]

newest rivatuner can clock better and stable to 3d mark ...
amd gpu clock tools just a buggy temporary oc only...
guys check it out

I'll have to check that out! Thanks for the heads up.

Okie dokie! I've got my extra cooling parts in for my video card installed and I think AS5 has had enough time to cure so am now about to give it a go in 06 and possibly 05 if I can be bothered enough! :ohwell: :rolleyes:

[Urbklr]

If anyone wants another gddr4 one...im selling mine for $115shipped....just to let ya know....so we can get some crossfire #'s in here

[Sovereign]

Welp, just got done with my first 06 run and with mixed results.

I did the first test on stock clocks and obviously default 3DMark06 settings and I believe I got a score of 5255 but I can not be for certain. The display died right after the result screen came up and I'm pretty sure it was due to driver error. Anytime I try to do a new 3DMark run, i get the same thing happening, sometimes in the beginning, sometimes durring and sometimes at the end so it's fairly random when it happens.

I'm running the latest Cat 7.8s and did a Driver Cleaner Pro job prior to installing the video card and new catalyst drivers.

Don't even get me started with trying to overclock this thing. I've tried ATI Tool 0.27.2, RivaTuner, ATI Tray Tools and AMD GPU Clock Tool and none of them are able to successfully OC this video card! AMD GPU Clock Tool was able to oc the core roughly 10MHz before causing the screen to power off and the other three were either unable to properly read the default clocks and/or altogether unable to overclock at any amount.

So, until I can figure out what the heck is going on, I think this will have to be put on hold.

[Spliff]

Hi.

I have a Sapphire HD2600XT DDR3 with a bios from 27/06/2007.
Seems that CCC from Cat7.8 allows for max 880Mhz on my card.

Also posted my results.
Cheers :toast:

[nexion218]

I have a powercolor hd2600xt gddr4 with the bios version 010.052.000.000 and found a v.010.053.000.003 bios on www.mvktech.net. Should I flash?

[cyberloner]

i dun and never suggest a brand display card to flash with b brand display card
use the original bios and tweak is the best way to stay safe....
wrong flash may bring the death to the card
if it confirm the same card with same ram... it's fine
play safe bro...

[hat]

Soverign some adivce for you:
the reason that the clocks on these cards are limited is because the PCI-E slot doesn't provide enough power for really good clocks. Try overvoling your PCI-E slot but not too much.

[Urbklr]

Overvolt the pci-e=higher clocks???Hmmmmm...i wonder if my mobo can do this...

[Sovereign]

Overvolt the pci-e=higher clocks???Hmmmmm...i wonder if my mobo can do this...

Thanks for the advise, Hat! Unfortunately, I don't think my TForce or nF-M2 boards are capable of such a task! :ohwell: I'll have another look but I don't remember seeing an option for this. My Tforce board allows for extra voltage to the chipset and HT bus if my memory serves me correctly and I know I can increase bus speed of the PCI-E slot though...

EDIT : Was finaly able to complete my first 06 run! I too had a few of the problems with 3DMark06 that Urbklr911 mentioned earlier and I had to to use the new Catalyst 7.8 Bioshock Hotfix drivers just to be able to get any results at all without a system or driver crash and hence the reason for the "approved driver" warning in the result pic below. Testing was at stock GPU clocks (850 core & 1150 memory) because I couldn't get any other program to overclock the video card without crashing or locking up the PC and system @ 2.860MHz CPU & 477MHz (954 effective) CAS4.0 4-4-12 2T memory clocks. I'm a little dissapointed with the score but then again, I'm a bit CPU bottlenecked and the video card is running at completely stock... The results :

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5742/capture013ba5.jpg (http://img.techpowerup.org)http://img.techpowerup.org/070831/Capture016.jpg (http://img.techpowerup.org)
http://img.techpowerup.org/070831/Capture015117.jpg (http://img.techpowerup.org)


A possible 3rd place finish atm which isn't too shaby when you consider that the current top 3 (in this thread) are using C2D's @ higher clock speeds! ;) So, I have to revise my goal of reaching 6k at this point in time due to seeing how the CPU has a large affect in 3DMark06 scores. I don't think I can or will be able to reach the 6k mark until I move up to either a 6400+ or a new Phenom later this year.

[Urbklr]

I should clock my athlon at 3GHz and run XP....that would pull out a good 3Dmark....does anyone know if unstable ram will crash 3Dmark??

[nexion218]

i dun and never suggest a brand display card to flash with b brand display card
use the original bios and tweak is the best way to stay safe....
wrong flash may bring the death to the card
if it confirm the same card with same ram... it's fine
play safe bro...

it's the same card but there's nothing about the ram,it may be the one with gddr3:confused:

[cyberloner]

if the card is working well.. why should u flash to other ppl card bios?
want better overclocking...
use rivatuner to clock the card and remember how good it can go...
wait new rabit utilities out... mod the own bios and flash it..
that is the good step to do...

flashing other card bios brings... trouble... unless it is confirm they works...
some can boot with unknown display card in windows... some totally won't boot ... some directly corrupt the display card ...
else u need to standby a pci display card to boot if fail to get the new bios to boot on your display card....
and flash back to your original bios.... with atiflash command -p 0 which means at the display pci-e slot...
so do nothing unless u know what u are going to... standby to rma it aswell

[Urbklr]

Anyone know if unstable ram will crash 3dmark???

[Sovereign]

Anyone know if unstable ram will crash 3dmark???

You're refering to system memory, correct?

If so, then yes is the answer.

[Xolair]

Is it true, that the new Catalyst 7.8 -drivers have made these cards much faster? Does anyone have experience about it? :D

[amd64best]

Is it true, that the new Catalyst 7.8 -drivers have made these cards much faster? Does anyone have experience about it?

Yes.
In Catalyst 7.7, I reach maximum VPU and Mem clock at 850/1035.
In Catalyst 7.8, I reach maximum VPU and Mem clock at 860/1051.
I think that pretty good.

[cyberloner]

those who have any good 2xxx ati bios... pls backup and share in http://www.mvktech.net/component/option,com_joomlaboard/Itemid,34/func,view/id,44639/catid,12/
it helps to build better oc tools
just wish all dvd player out there will use the ati avivo tech properly to decode h264...
found no one player truely support it yet...

[Urbklr]

Sweet ima post my new 3dmark results later.....and yes...my corsair ram sucks:(

[Urbklr]

opp....wait...i read that wrong...dammm

[cyberloner]

Anyone know if unstable ram will crash 3dmark???

download memtest program... run in pure dos in boot disk...
unstable ram crash all ...
answer for question... yes it does... when gaming .. mostlly the ram is use a lot and when reach the bad memory allocation... they blue screen or auto restart....
corsair ram normally.. need extra voltage...

[Urbklr]

more voltage=no start

[DOM]

more voltage=no start

What speed are you trying to run them at and tim ?

[Urbklr]

DDR2/900 CL5-5-5-18 I need 2.15V to start but they are unstable any more voltage=no start...any ideas??

[Urbklr]

This thread should be sticky'd....the x1900 series thread is

[DOM]

DDR2/900 CL5-5-5-18 I need 2.15V to start but they are unstable any more voltage=no start...any ideas??
Have you tryed upping th NB one ? That helps me when trying to get mine stable at higher speeds

Also do you have a link of your ram ?

[mitsirfishi]

ive got a 2400pro for my shit computer what are they suppose to clock to ? and what benchies :P

[Urbklr]

I will try upping my NB voltage(if thats what your asking) and i got it semi stable at:
316FSB 1.5Vcore
DDR2/854 CL4-4-4-10 1T LOL....my ram is stable at 1000MHz easy if my processor isnt clocked high.

Also i found that my bios has a setting to up the PCI-e voltage....it is Core/PCI-E and it goes between 1.2 and 1.5V...will this help overclocking at all??(for my videocard)

[cyberloner]

pls stay back to the topic...
does anyone successful use the avivo uvd technologies to watch hddvd / blue ray / h264 in full hardware decoding mode...
cannot found any good news yet... hope u guys go attack ati site support aswell in this matter...
powerdvd ultra cannot use hardware at all for decode the hddvd / blueray....
maybe i'm out of topic too... this is oc topic... =x

[pt]

i can't overclock with rivatuner, and whenever i install the drivers with catalyst, catalyst refuses to open :(

[cyberloner]

i can't overclock with rivatuner, and whenever i install the drivers with catalyst, catalyst refuses to open :(

maybe ccc need to be uninstall....

[pt]

maybe ccc need to be uninstall....

it is unninstalled, i was previously running only the drivers,
i unninstalled them, installed catalyst and drivers
and catalyst refuses to open with some weird error :(

[Sovereign]

it is unninstalled, i was previously running only the drivers,
i unninstalled them, installed catalyst and drivers
and catalyst refuses to open with some weird error :(

I had the same exact problem. I uninstalled CCC and installed Rivatuner to take it's place but that too will not let me do any sort of overclocking. Both ATITool and ATI Tray Tools also do not fully support the HD2600 series so I'm basicaly left sitting around with a stock card and a thumb up my arse until somebody can figure things out...

[pt]

i use amd gpu clock tool
a pain in the ass for it to work properly in games and 24/7 so i just use it for benching

[Sovereign]

i use amd gpu clock tool
a pain in the ass for it to work properly in games and 24/7 so i just use it for benching

I tried that as well. It would only produce about 5MHz overclock on the core, any higher would cause the video card/drivers to malfunction and cause a loss of signal to the display. The memory wouldn't even oc 1MHz, trying to push the clock speeds higher on the memory using AMD's GPU clock tool would result in nothing and the clock speed resetting back to default.

[pt]

added more ppl :)

[pt]

and
better score in 05
http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resultanalyzer.jsp?projectType=12&XLID=0&UID=10685908
and a 2nd place in 06
http://service.futuremark.com/orb/resultanalyzer.jsp?projectType=14&XLID=0&UID=10686226

[Urbklr]

My newest score on 06 was 5098....can you update plez pt

[pt]

My newest score on 06 was 5098....can you update plez pt

done :)

[Urbklr]

Haha...i pwn.....i think my earlier coment got us this sticky:rolleyes:
Thanks pt.....ima break 5100 and posibly 5200 here soon:rockout:

[pt]

Haha...i pwn.....i think my earlier coment got us this sticky:rolleyes:
Thanks pt.....ima break 5100 and posibly 5200 here soon:rockout:

i pm'ed darksaber for sticvky :p

[cdawall]

PT you tried loosening the timnings on you GDDR to get a higher clock yet?

[Urbklr]

ohhhhh......i dont pwn:(

[pt]

PT you tried loosening the timnings on you GDDR to get a higher clock yet?

how do i do that?

(ati tool says the chipset aint supported when i click the timmings button)

[cdawall]

how do i do that?

(ati tool says the chipset aint supported when i click the timmings button)

BIOS mod with the rabit :D works with nv cards and nibitor im sure rabit+ATI will allow changes to timings

[pt]

BIOS mod with the rabit :D works with nv cards and nibitor im sure rabit+ATI will allow changes to timings

no bios editor works with this card so far :(
|

[cdawall]

no bios editor works with this card so far :(
|

oh pk didnt kno that :D oh well


beg w1z to add timings for your to AtiTool

[pt]

oh pk didnt kno that :D oh well


beg w1z to add timings for your to AtiTool

w1z said is being lazy :cry:

[mitsirfishi]

has anyone got a 2400pro clocked up yet ? mine is being a retard and wont touch on the core or memory just goes back to stock and overdrive puts it 600 then goes back to 525 plus it doesnt work in any 3dmark lol whats the crack with that ?

[pt]

has anyone got a 2400pro clocked up yet ? mine is being a retard and wont touch on the core or memory just goes back to stock and overdrive puts it 600 then goes back to 525 plus it doesnt work in any 3dmark lol whats the crack with that ?

use amd gpu clock tool or rivatuner
and do this:
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=38226

[mitsirfishi]

it does the same in rivatuner

[pt]

what about amd gpu clock tool?

[cyberloner]

has anyone got a 2400pro clocked up yet ? mine is being a retard and wont touch on the core or memory just goes back to stock and overdrive puts it 600 then goes back to 525 plus it doesnt work in any 3dmark lol whats the crack with that ?

my Expertvision 2600 PRO can clock to 830Mhz core and memory 830Mhz so it is 1660 Mhz in DDR3 rate....
i'm using rivatuner to gain stable overclock... u can't see the core and memory speed while in windows... and in rivatuner low level oc... when u test with 3dmark and see the fps .. u will know it is oc in background...
happy clock all...

anybody knows how to use ati h264 hardware mode when watching mp4 or mkv .. please share

[pt]

a question to all:
anyone got a cf bridge when they bought the card?
a friend of mine just got a new card equal to mine and i will try cf soon, but the shop said xpertvision didn't put cf bridges in the box, nor saphire (they don't have more brands for the hd26) so, did you got them?

[Urbklr]

I got one with mine....and i have one from my old x1950pro. Im going crossfire by the end of the month if zek doesnt buy my HD2600.

[woozers]

I got one with my card.

[pt]

I got one with my card.

and how's your oc going? :)

[Urbklr]

Im leaving you guys tommorow...my cards being shipped to Zek and he will probaly take my place.

[Urbklr]

haha....a nvidia sticky.....WOW....what has the world come to:(

[pt]

haha....a nvidia sticky.....WOW....what has the world come to:(

?

[DOM]

? ;) (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=39433) Click me


edit: try again lol

[pt]

;) (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=39433) Click me

smile link not working

[Sovereign]

Official 7.9s are out, ladies! Time for a new run of synthetic benchmark tests! ;)

BTW, the 7.9 CCC still does not allow OC'ing past 857 core & 1179 memory clocks! :( That basicaly means that for folks like me, overclocking at all is rather pointless (unless you believe a 7MHz OC on the core is something to brag about)...

[Urbklr]

haha...someone post...i really wana know how the new drivers do

[Sovereign]

haha...someone post...i really wana know how the new drivers do

I've already got them installed, it's just that I would need to redownload 3Dmark06 again and install it. I've since gone through a complete reformat shortly after I did my initial 3DMark06 test run and haven't bothered to put it back on as of yet.

[pt]

the drivers just improved games afaik, but i will try later

[Urbklr]

Still no numbers?? Come on guys...i wana see how they did

[mitsirfishi]

2400 pro's are retards they dont work with 3dmark 03 or 05 not even 06 and yet it runs 01 with a stock p4 550 at 3.4ghz and 1gb of ddr2 ram in SC at 667 at 3-3-3-8 it gets a pitiful 12.5k any one else had this problem or know a solution to it ?

[Urbklr]

didnt you try rename the whatcallit file somewhere in system32(it think thats where it is)

[Sovereign]

__________________
http://forums.techpowerup.com/image.php?u=39205&type=sigpic&dateline=1189206415

http://www.forumspile.com/Rape-Clown_penis.jpg

I don't mean to sound like a dick but could you please shorten up your sig a bit? I have to scroll half a screen to clear each one of your posts because of your sig and I'm using a 1280x1024 screen res! :ohwell:

[Urbklr]

Haha...yea....Zek put the clown there because i was rebeling haha

[pt]

3dmarks score are equal with new drivers ;)

[Dixxhead]

Hey Guys,

I've done some tests with my Laptop, a Toshiba A200-17O (powered by an Ati Mobility HD2600)

Here's the System:
Intel Core 2 Duo T7100 (1.8ghz and "only" 2MB L2-Cache)
Ati HD2600 @ 700mhz core/ 570mhz memory. (Default: 500mhz core/400mhz memory) mod Catalyst 7.9
2024mb DDR2-667mhz ram Dual-Channel
Windows Vista Home Premium (I guess this one kills some of the points too, especially on the older versions which have some seriously strange hick-ups in the CPU tests (partially 0 fps) or the "Mother Nature" test of 03.)

So, I guess everything relevant has been told. Here are my results, enjoy:

3DMark 03: 10472
3DMark 05: 7692
3DMark 06: 4133 (Just for the record, as this is the only one I tested without any OCing, it has 3180 non-OCed)

I'm pretty satisfied with these scores as the Laptop was actually rather cheap compared to other similiar set-ups (950€, in the US it would most likeley sell for 1000$ I presume) and performs quite well in real-life gaming environment (e.g. Colin McRae Dirt runs at ~25fps at "High" (except shadows and particles set to medium) @ 1024x768, 2xAA.

Next to OC would be the CPU, but since noone knows the PLLs yet, I'll have to wait (not opening up my new Laptop just yet :ohwell: )

That is all,

Good night to y'all.

Oh, before I forget it, this would be the Vista Performance Marks for the system (overclocked, GFX1 was 4.9 and GFX2 (Games) was 4.8 before OC) [sorry for the german]:
http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/4416/overclocked2qp0.jpg

[pt]

hi again, grat laptop for that price, where did you get that modded catalyst?

[Dixxhead]

hi again, grat laptop for that price, where did you get that modded catalyst?

I downloaded it from ati.com and modded it with the MobilityModder3.NET (otherwhise it won't install on laptops) With other words, it's just the usual Desktop Catalyst running on a notebook :)

[pt]

oh :(
i wan't to mod the max clocks

[Sovereign]

LoL! I found this rather funny and thought I'd share it with the rest of you folks...

With the latest review from TechSpot on 09/12/07 regarding the 8600GTS vs the GDDR3 HD2600XT, his conclusion was as follows :

Therefore, in our comparison (http://www.techspot.com/review/66-radeon-hd-2600xt-vs-geforce-8600gts/page7.html) between the Radeon HD 2600XT and the GeForce 8600 GTS, we have found the Radeon X1950 Pro to be the winner, go figure

The test was soley between an ASUS Geforce 8600GTS and a VisionTek HD2600XT GDDR3 512MB video cards. If you read the full conclusion, you'll notice that he brings the Radeon X1950PRO as well as the Geforce 7900GS from previous testing into the picture to come up with the quote above and thus the final conclusion! :ohwell: :D

[dukee]

oh :(
i wan't to mod the max clocks

I have seen many 2600XT cards from Sapphire who haven't this lock of 857 MHz core clock. Can anybody confirm that these cards clock higher than 857 MHz?
Can someone upload a bios from a sapphire 2600XT 512MB (DDR3)? I have got the Palit/xpertvision 2600XT Super 512MB and this card is locked @ 857 MHz.

[pt]

I have seen many 2600XT cards from Sapphire who haven't this lock of 857 MHz core clock. Can anybody confirm that these cards clock higher than 857 MHz?
Can someone upload a bios from a sapphire 2600XT 512MB (DDR3)? I have got the Palit/xpertvision 2600XT Super 512MB and this card is locked @ 857 MHz.

on hwbot there are many cards above 857, i dk why, and i also got my card locked at 857
xpertvision sonic 256

[dukee]

on hwbot there are many cards above 857, i dk why, and i also got my card locked at 857
xpertvision sonic 256
is it possible that only cards by palit/xpertvision are locked at 857 MHz? Do you know where to get a Bios from another manufacturar for the 2600XT 512MB (DDR3)?

[pt]

i think most brands are locked, and some lucky bastards found a way to unlock it

[Sovereign]

i think most brands are locked, and some lucky bastards found a way to unlock it

If thats true, then why aren't they SHARING it!!! :wtf:

(BTW, mine is locked @ 857 as well which means a massive 7MHz core overclock in any program thats remotely compatible with the HD2600 series, which isn't many).

[pt]

If thats true, then why aren't they SHARING it!!! :wtf:

(BTW, mine is locked @ 857 as well which means a massive 7MHz core overclock in any program thats remotely compatible with the HD2600 series, which isn't many).

every guy i saw at hwbot with higher than 857, i emailed them and got no answer

[Urbklr]

haha....selfish. Would it be possible to like solder a 6pin PCI-e connector in to the spot on the card where 1 should be...i noticed my sapphire had the spot..but no connector was soldered to it...would the extra power help the oc??

[pt]

haha....selfish. Would it be possible to like solder a 6pin PCI-e connector in to the spot on the card where 1 should be...i noticed my sapphire had the spot..but no connector was soldered to it...would the extra power help the oc??

nop
prob not

[Dixxhead]

nop
prob not

I don't think so either... But you can't really exclude anything. From what I hear whenever you go over 857mhz with the AMDGPUClocktool you get a black screen, this could be an indication that the GPU just simply ain't supplied with enough current to run at such high Frequencies... Other than that it could also be the tool itself... I had some crashes with it aswell, no matter what Clocks I inputted (even reverting them to default once caused the black screen). Try to overclock the card right after you restart windows, this tends to give me the best results with the overclocking tool.

By the chance, I've got a question... Basically what limits Overclocking is the Voltage and the Temperature? I'm asking because the AMDGPUTool shows me a temperature of 53.000°C after playing for 2 hours straight, which seems rather "low" to me (with alot of room open for further overclocking)... If by any chance a new ATITool with full support of 2xxx-series and Voltage control comes out, would you think it is safe to go further up with the clocks (I'd leave the GPU at 700mhz, I'm fine with that, but I'd like to get the memory to 700mhz aswell but it's capped at 570mhz because I think it's low on voltage).

Just to remember you guys, I'm on hd2600 mobility, so don't wonder about the low clocks ^^ (Default: 500mhz core/400mhz memory)

[pt]

I don't think so either... But you can't really exclude anything. From what I hear whenever you go over 857mhz with the AMDGPUClocktool you get a black screen, this could be an indication that the GPU just simply ain't supplied with enough current to run at such high Frequencies... Other than that it could also be the tool itself... I had some crashes with it aswell, no matter what Clocks I inputted (even reverting them to default once caused the black screen). Try to overclock the card right after you restart windows, this tends to give me the best results with the overclocking tool.

it freezes, no black screen


By the chance, I've got a question... Basically what limits Overclocking is the Voltage and the Temperature? I'm asking because the AMDGPUTool shows me a temperature of 53.000°C after playing for 2 hours straight, which seems rather "low" to me (with alot of room open for further overclocking)... If by any chance a new ATITool with full support of 2xxx-series and Voltage control comes out, would you think it is safe to go further up with the clocks (I'd leave the GPU at 700mhz, I'm fine with that, but I'd like to get the memory to 700mhz aswell but it's capped at 570mhz because I think it's low on voltage).

Just to remember you guys, I'm on hd2600 mobility, so don't wonder about the low clocks ^^ (Default: 500mhz core/400mhz memory)

it's locked duo to a bios bug according to w1z, and that hd2600 mobility was severe cutted in clocks :(

[Dixxhead]

it freezes, no black screen



Hmm, ok. Well I think that depends on the Monitor you are using. When I tried overclocking on my external monitor (and it crashed) the was simply a black screen and the system was not responding any longer. On the Laptop LCD, when it crashes, I get a frozen picture which lightens up first (for quite some time, get's brighter and brighter) and then fades away.

it's locked duo to a bios bug according to w1z, and that hd2600 mobility was severe cutted in clocks :(

That is very unfortunate then... Perhaps trying the Bios of one of the guys who made it go over those blasted 857mhz, I'll keep my fingers crossed for you so that they answer to your e-mails. And yeah, the mobility is really cutted down in clocks... So badly that initially I had Half-life 2 lagging with 2xaa enabled because of the catastrophic bandwith... Anyhow I managed to go up with the clocks over the HD2600Pro (which is clocked at 600mhz, IRC) and on the same level as the mobility hd2600xt (700mhz). I'm almost sure I could go up another 50mhz at least as I have no signs of artifacting or similiar things, I suppose it's exactly the same chip as the one in the desktops, seeing the powerplay feautures consist in only having the clock halved (compared to bringing it down to incredibly low 100mhz like it was the case for the x700 mobility) and not touching the ram...
But right now, the thing bottlenecking the Performance is the VRAM (and perhaps a bit the CPU) rather than the GPU itself. It still hasn't got a very high bandwith with only 570mhz (afaik default for the mobility should be 600mhz and for the xt version 750mhz)
so if I could get it some more voltage I think it should be possible to reach 700mhz with those. (Considering all they do is completley crash if I go over 580mhz and launch a 3d-Application, not creating any kind of artifacts whatsoever)...

Oh well, sorry for all that text I'm always writing, I'll try to keep it short in the future... It's just that I'm totally into Overclocking again, remembers me of the good old times with my Geforce 256. (first time I started overclocking like crazy ^^)

[pt]

no prob, i'm praying aswell :D
and no prob on long text aswell, keep the oc going :)

[pt]

can you say WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!?

http://img.techpowerup.org/070915/884mhz.jpg
my hd2600xt card speeds /\
i tell you all how i done it in tomorrow, going to sleep :cool:

[dukee]

can you say WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!?

[img]http://img.techpowerup.org/070915/884mhz.jpg[img]
my hd2600xt card speeds /\
i tell you all how i done it in tomorrow, going to sleep :cool:
great to hear that:)

[Dixxhead]

can you say WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!?

my hd2600xt card speeds /\
i tell you all how i done it in tomorrow, going to sleep :cool:


Woooot! Good job! Was it by any chance disabling the ati Hotkey Poller (aka External Event Utility?)

[pt]

nop
fairly easy than i ever tought, after seeing all hwbot core that were not running at 857 we're running at 880 and above, i decide to try (i had nothing to do) clicking 880 (it wen't to 877) clicked set clocks, and it didn't froze :|, then i tryed 884, and it worked aswell, so i start 3dmarks (to see if it was stable and it was!) :D, however there's a small problem, if atitool is working, it will freeze, so make sure it ain't running, i dk about other programms, but i did this in amd gpu clock tool
:D

[HeUeR]

nop
fairly easy than i ever tought, after seeing all hwbot core that were not running at 857 we're running at 880 and above, i decide to try (i had nothing to do) clicking 880 (it wen't to 877) clicked set clocks, and it didn't froze :|, then i tryed 884, and it worked aswell, so i start 3dmarks (to see if it was stable and it was!) :D, however there's a small problem, if atitool is working, it will freeze, so make sure it ain't running, i dk about other programms, but i did this in amd gpu clock tool
:D

he he Same thing i have with my 8600GT, later i will try in Nvidia Control panel, in Ati Tool can't put normal high MHZ, if i put then card is start freezing like needed more volts :toast:

[Xolair]

^^ So, have you tried 3DMark06 yet with those new clocks? :D

[pt]

^^ So, have you tried 3DMark06 yet with those new clocks? :D

yes, but since i had better scores with atitool on, and now i can't get it to work, i'm getting lower scores :(

[Spliff]

Here is what AMD GPU Clock Tool can do for my card. I have Sapphire HD2600xt DDR3 256M.
I was using ATI Overdrive for OC up until now, wich freezes on anything above 860 GPU..
I'm pretty satisfied with the card, but seems to me like AMD is doing everything in their power to fail on the market.. First the cards seemed more like engineering samples with beta bios that were rushed onto the market, and second the drivers are still beta-like ( not that NV is doing a much better job here.. :(). AMD surely knows by now that by conquering the entusiast users is the way to go if You want a product to be successful..
So maybe at some point in the future We'll have Vcore control in ATITool and decent drivers. I would love to see some Vmods of this card hitting 1GHz++.

[Urbklr]

Omg...good job Pt....as Borat would say "Very nice"

[pt]

Here is what AMD GPU Clock Tool can do for my card. I have Sapphire HD2600xt DDR3 256M.
I was using ATI Overdrive for OC up until now, wich freezes on anything above 860 GPU..
I'm pretty satisfied with the card, but seems to me like AMD is doing everything in their power to fail on the market.. First the cards seemed more like engineering samples with beta bios that were rushed onto the market, and second the drivers are still beta-like ( not that NV is doing a much better job here.. :(). AMD surely knows by now that by conquering the entusiast users is the way to go if You want a product to be successful..
So maybe at some point in the future We'll have Vcore control in ATITool and decent drivers. I would love to see some Vmods of this card hitting 1GHz++.

not bad on that core, i can only go up to 884, i'm waiting and :respect::respect: to ketxxx, for him to mod my bios with more voltage

[Sovereign]

not bad on that core, i can only go up to 884, i'm waiting and :respect::respect: to ketxxx, for him to mod my bios with more voltage

What the heck!!! I can't even get AMD GPU Clock Tool to work now! When I start it up, it fails to open and when I bring up Windows Task Manager, it's in the Processes list running @ 50% CPU usage and constantly increases memory usage @ about a megabyte a second until I physicaly kill/stop it but the app never does fully open. :banghead:

It was working fine before I updated to the new Cat 7.9's...

[pt]

i get that too from time to time, do you have atitool open?, or rivatuner?

[pt]

updated clock sppeds of me and Spliff

[DaMulta]

I might get one of these to play with. Kick it down on temps with a TEC and see what one will do.

[ghost101]

How do you stop throttling? I overclock the 2600xt using the amd tool, but when i run 3dmark i see no improvement. Annoyingly i also have the 857mhz bug.

[pt]

How do you stop throttling? I overclock the 2600xt using the amd tool, but when i run 3dmark i see no improvement. Annoyingly i also have the 857mhz bug.

try putting 870 or above on amd gpu clock tool
it shouldn't freeze, and if you see no improvmente it's not oc

[ghost101]

Soon as i go above 857.25 i get a black screen. There is definitely an oc as i get an improvement as expected in the atitool 3d view.

However, in 3dmark05/06, no improvement whatsoever.

[pt]

Soon as i go above 857.25 i get a black screen. There is definitely an oc as i get an improvement as expected in the atitool 3d view.

However, in 3dmark05/06, no improvement whatsoever.

don't put 858 or osmething, just jump straight to 880
see if it freezes aswell

[ghost101]

You're a star. Lets see if i get any 3dmark improvement. I assume you're all using the method of remanig the dll to get 3dmark05/06 to work?

[Dixxhead]

You're a star. Lets see if i get any 3dmark improvement. I assume you're all using the method of remanig the dll to get 3dmark05/06 to work?


Yup. Reading and clocking the HD2xxx-series seems to be quite a b*tch... Even Futuremarks clock-reading utility crashes when it comes to that. I hope some cool guy manages to fully understand this new ati way of clocking and releases a proper Overclocking tool. (W1zzard? ATITool 0.27 b3?) ^^

[Urbklr]

Once on Rivatuner i set my clock to 900 and it seemed like it made a difference but not in 3dmark.....so i assumed it didnt work.....but it might have

[ghost101]

ATItool has a problem with running when the clock is set above 857mhz.

Well i guess i'll stop at 891/792 3dmark06 stable (couldnt run atitool so may not be). Since CCC was throttling the GPU before i uninstalled it, i dont think i'll run it at these speeds.

[mitsirfishi]

didnt you try rename the whatcallit file somewhere in system32(it think thats where it is)

yes it would be nice to know what that whatcallit file is called it might help...