First Penryn Core 2 Chips Top At 3.33GHz

[HellasVagabond]

The Quad Core 2 Extreme processor will run at a frequency of 3.33 GHz have a 1333MHz FSB, 12MB L2 Cache and will retail for about 999$ when it gets released in Q4 2007. In addition to the Quad-Core 2 Extreme processor intel also plans to release two performance level 45nm quad-core processors which will also have a 1333 MHz FSB and 12MB L2 Cache. Another four 45nm dual-core processors (Wolfdale) will be launched in the first half of 2008. The first three processors will have a 1333MHz FSB and 6MB L2 Cache, while fourth will have a 1066MHz FSB and 3MB L2 Cache.

Source: Digitimes (http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20070719PD203.html)

[LiNKiN]

Man, poor AMD.....the performance is probably gonna be insane on these chips.

[a111087]

Amd will probably delay to try and do something about it

[kwchang007]

3.33 ghz quad core? Are they still going to use the same stock cooling for that. Something tells me even at 45 nm their current stock cooling won't be able to keep it under 60C

[15th Warlock]

Geez, Intel sure is making everything in their hands to make them look like they're generations ahead of AMD!

AMD is just about to release their answer to Conroe/Kentsfield, and Intel already is preparing Wolfdale and Penryn :eek:

[LiNKiN]

Geez, Intel sure is making everything in their hands to make them look like they're generations ahead of AMD!

AMD is just about to release their answer to Conroe/Kentsfield, and Intel already is preparing Wolfdale and Penryn :eek:

That's exactly what I was thinking. Hopefully they do have an ace up there sleeve. :ohwell:

[a111087]

AMD is just about to release their answer to Conroe/Kentsfield, and Intel already is preparing Wolfdale and Penryn :eek:

Well, people do think so, but i say lets wait and see, some of the low end will be in August

[HellasVagabond]

The stock cooler should suffice since the new 45nm process brings lower heat levels....And with a non stock cooler this baby should easily do 4 GHz in each core...Awesome...Not to mention the L2 cache and the FSB...

[Kreij]

My quad runs fine at stock voltages when pushed to 3.1GHz, but it get HOT when under full load (like Folding on all four cores). The 45nm version should run cooler even clocked at 3.33 GHZ. I'm gooing to have to get me one of those. :rockout:

[TXcharger]

this is what we were waiting for right? the penryn is supposed to be the bomb for like ever right? man i cant see anything being faster than this...

a penryn + X38 = computergasm

[mandelore]

why wouldnt a quad phenom kick its ass?

[HellasVagabond]

Well it would be nice to see that but i doubt AMD predicted the penryn when they started on phenom.......

[kwchang007]

why wouldnt a quad phenom kick its ass?

Phenom is expected to be released at 2 ghz....Penryn is coming out with 3.33 ghz. If you can beat a 3.33 ghz quad core with a 2ghz quad core you'd have the best architecture ever. (Penryn being the 3.33, not something like netburst).

[a111087]

don't forget that 2 ghz phenom is prety much a low end of phenom, they will release higher clocks later on...

[kwchang007]

don't forget that 2 ghz phenom is prety much a low end of phenom, they will release higher clocks later on...

Yeah, but it depends on how much later. Also there are no solid benchies out yet :mad:. You can't trust the ones from amd...and you can't trust the ones from other sources...

[quickie]

12mb L2 cache?:rockout: I thought 6mb was already a lot. Right now Intel has products that can deliver performance and are scalable. AMD will really have their hands full in the coming months, as if the situation now isn't bad enough.

[HellasVagabond]

I wonder why we havent seen any replies from AMD's investor........

[Sent1nel]

is the penryn or wolfdale native quad core or are these quads still dependant on the FSB for communication between the cores?

[cdawall]

The stock cooler should suffice since the new 45nm process brings lower heat levels....And with a non stock cooler this baby should easily do 4 GHz in each core...Awesome...Not to mention the L2 cache and the FSB...

45nm wont lower temps by itself. the chip will have to operate at a lower vcore for there to be any change in the cpu temps.

oh and im just putting this out there intel cant have upgraded the way these chips work to well if a 6000+ can keep up with a ocnroe using 1/4 the l2 cache it makes me think that intel needs to improve its design and not half ass the chip if they want to stay ahead of AMD they will need a complete redesign not pentium 4m + a massive cache and a dual/quad core edition.

[mandelore]

is the penryn or wolfdale native quad core or are these quads still dependant on the FSB for communication between the cores?

think only amd uses native quad and integrated memory controller :)

[cdawall]

is the penryn or wolfdale native quad core or are these quads still dependant on the FSB for communication between the cores?

both are supposed to be native

[WarEagleAU]

Well that is might nice stuff from Intel. But even at 45nm, the heat can still surge. I expect stock cooling to take a unique redesigned approach.

[HellasVagabond]

I hope skythe makes something nice for that baby :)

[lemonadesoda]

Is Core 2 about to top out (GHz)? Very few processors (whatever the architecture) can get a lot higher than 3-4GHz without fancy sub-zero liquid cooling.

What is the next performance trick?

[Chewy]

wont the die shrink cut down on temp? I would like to see avg 4ghz oc in Penryn :D

I dont think were really going to need more performance for a couple years after this, that will give them enough time to draw up a better processor.

[PVTCaboose1337]

Yeah and the magical diamond cooling system. AMD is in trouble.

By the way what is the limit to the size of the cpu?

[Dippyskoodlez]

don't forget that 2 ghz phenom is prety much a low end of phenom, they will release higher clocks later on...

Remember, all of this "released clockspeed" stuff is rumor.. and much of it old... much of it could change.. or it could get worse.. AMD is unusually quiet.

By the way what is the limit to the size of the cpu?

Reliable production is the only physical limitation really...

But for realistic purposes, smaller die = cheaper = better in so many ways :p

[trt740]

think only amd uses native quad and integrated memory controller :)

and 16 mb on chip memory aswell

[tkpenalty]

3.33Ghz on a conroe already murders every stock clocked AMD processor... poor amd :(

Yes die shrink will dramatically decrease temperatures but reduce the temperature tolerance. Also it decreases wafer costs which means intel doesnt have to pay so much.

[cdawall]

Yes die shrink will dramatically decrease temperatures but reduce the temperature tolerance. Also it decreases wafer costs which means intel doesnt have to pay so much.

a die shrink ALONE will NOT decrease temp only lower the volts will drop the temps run 2 amds a 130nm newcastle and 90nm venice side by side both at same clocks and volts will have THE SAME TEMP (within a 1 to 2C diff in temp)

[Solaris17]

is their a penryn core dual core?

[15th Warlock]

is their a penryn core dual core?

Wolfdale ;)

[Solaris17]

:( man i really wanted my cpu-z to say penryn for core name and i really want dual core idont whanna go quad not yet

[15th Warlock]

:( man i really wanted my cpu-z to say penryn for core name and i really want dual core idont whanna go quad not yet

LOL! :laugh:

Wolfdale sounds a lot cooler to me than Penryn :rockout:

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

I'm sorry but does anyone else smell the stench of AMD fanboy in here?

[Atech]

Is Core 2 about to top out (GHz)? Very few processors (whatever the architecture) can get a lot higher than 3-4GHz without fancy sub-zero liquid cooling.

What is the next performance trick?
Power 7 will come in at 6GHz stock :P

Edit:
I've been subjugated to the sleeper effect.

Power6 can reach 6GHz on air, but the initial release was at 4.7GHz.

[Solaris17]

I'm sorry but does anyone else smell the stench of AMD fanboy in here?

no BUT OTHER THAN FLAME BAIT..

idk i just like the word penryn....idk though i dont think ill go 775 the exp iv had with those HSF have not been fun but maybe i will idk i really want a penryn i just dont see the reasoning for 4 cores (fanboyism were?) but eaither way penryn or wolfdale the preformance will be amazing :)

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

I just think pple should just accept the fact that intel has the superior product right now and quit arguing or trying to find any little minor defect. 2 years ago I was perfectly happy with my San Diego + Nforce4 Ultra cos it was cheaper+faster....period. right now intel kicks ass and will do so for a few years till amd gets their head out their ass and builds a better platform. anyways what I think is just mind blowing is a stock quad core wolfdale with 12mb, l2 cache 1333FSB and 3.3ghz core

[Atech]

I just think pple should just accept the fact that intel has the superior product right now and quit arguing or trying to find any little minor defect. 2 years ago I was perfectly happy with my San Diego + Nforce4 Ultra cos it was cheaper+faster....period. right now intel kicks ass and will do so for a few years till amd gets their head out their ass and builds a better platform. anyways what I think is just mind blowing is a stock quad core wolfdale with 12mb, l2 cache 1333FSB and 3.3ghz core
I still think that Opteron is far superior in massively SMP applications, and IBM and Sun Microsystems agree (yes, that statement should be the other way round :P)

I think it's dangerous to think about this in black and white. One is superior in some ways which make it superior for my particular application, would be a more accurate way of stating it. Judge each on merit in your particular application, instead of just judging on hearsay, PR, and overgeneralised and uselessly vectorised benchmarks.

[mandelore]

lol, when one company prints "ass rapes xxx companies processor" on the packaging ill buy asap :p