Crossfire X1950XTX/X1950XTX WORKS!!!!!

[DaMulta]

Too all of those who did not belive me:toast:

http://img.techpowerup.org/070830/crossfire.jpg

X1950XTX/X1950XTX Corssfire

http://img.techpowerup.org/070830/Picture%20001.jpg

06 Stock GPU settings
http://img.techpowerup.org/070830/working06204.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/070830/working06%20hmmm.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/070830/CPU%20score.jpg
05 Stock GPU settings
http://img.techpowerup.org/070830/3d05working.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/070830/3d05workin2.jpg

[DRDNA]

Most excellent!!!! Thanks for the affirmation !! Post results of 3dm05 and 06 plz.

[DaMulta]

Downloading now

[DRDNA]

nice,thnx;):toast:;)

[hat]

LIKE OMGz
Its beastly fast, too bad its not dx10 though

[nflesher87]

LIKE OMGz
Its beastly fast, too bad its not dx10 though

who gives a shite, they're sweet as heck
and da multa make sure you update your system specs asap ;)

[insider]

Hmm the guys rig is ready to run Crysis for sure! :toast:

DX10 is pointless when it's visually barely noticeable and runs like a pile of dirt.

[niko084]

People didn't believe 2 xtx's worked in xfire?

I think some don't but there are definitely at least some that do :)

[DaMulta]

People didn't believe 2 xtx's worked in xfire?

I think some don't but there are definitely at least some that do :)

Some people believed you still had to have the master card.

[niko084]

Some people believed you still had to have the master card.

Ya you "used" to have to have a master card with some of the xt's also, but nobody ever told me, I actually got lucky I didn't even check before I ordered mine and then came across that some didn't work.

Although I may have a set of 2600xt's soon instead. I know I'll lose performance but I don't really use it, and well its just sooo much less power draw and heat.

[nflesher87]

benchies :)

where are they?! :mad:

[pbmaster]

benchies :)

where are they?! :mad:

Calm down man, I'm sure he's tworking on em.

[zekrahminator]

Calm down man, I'm sure he's tworking on em.

Tworking...I like that word :).

[pbmaster]

YEAH I was hoping someone would comment on it lol...I use that word all the time

[DaMulta]

Almost done DLing 06

http://img.techpowerup.org/070830/06%20download.jpg

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

twork= hotness

[Ketxxx]

Hurry up im getting impatient waiting for results :p

[InnocentCriminal]

Woot! Nice one dude!

[DaMulta]

OK 3Dmark ok is saying that my 3D clock didn't turn on. I haven't looked before it's supposed to tell me my clock right?

http://img.techpowerup.org/070830/06%20hmmm.jpg

But my score is up, so it is working...Time to install ATi Tool

http://img.techpowerup.org/070830/06%20score2.jpg

[pbmaster]

Dang, that is pretty good. Get those clocks going like they are supposed to be!!

[Hawk1]

Excellent! I've been hoping to see someone do crossfire like this. I've hesitated because I did not want to search for and/or pay a sick amount for a Crossfire master. I may try this now, if the performance is there. Cant wait for the numbers.

Edit. results posted as I wrote this. Good job Damulta

[mitsirfishi]

nice job ill have all my pc together next week ill put my x1950pro cf's in action ;)

[nflesher87]

lol and either way that score is pretty damn good for the 3D clocks not turning on haha

[zekrahminator]

11 people watching this thread, DaMulta hurry up with those benchmarks :laugh:.

[-1nf1n1ty-]

WOW is that 06?, I got 7731 on 06 with 2900xt prolly cause I have an sli board. I love crossfire....almost thinking about getting damulta's mobo. speaking of which damulta are you getting the new xfire boards?

[pbmaster]

You do realize his CPU is really good? 06 is much more CPU dependent than previous versions.

[-1nf1n1ty-]

You do realize his CPU is really good? 06 is much more CPU dependent than previous versions.

explains alot about ,my score thanks...time to upgrade

[pbmaster]

Haha not really upgrade, but OC. What is your CPU score anyway? Mine is around 2317 and I get 10181 on 06 with my GTS OC'ed.

[DaMulta]

OK it's working now with ATi tool installed, but ATi tool isn't' seeing both cards.

Also I can't turn off Crossfire now

http://img.techpowerup.org/070830/working06204.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/070830/working06%20hmmm.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/070830/CPU%20score.jpg

Downloading 05 now

[GREASEMONKEY]

?I missed events leading up to this thread,So if understand correctly.You were able to software crossfire 2 1950xtx(non master)cards without the use of dongle or bridges?
If so,very well done!:toast:

[insider]

That was for the X1900 series, the X1950 series doesn't need it now.

[DaMulta]

That was for the X1900 series, the X1950 series doesn't need it now.

Non of the X19xxx do besides the PRO/master cards. You can miss-match ANY X19xx card and it will work.

.You were able to software crossfire 2 1950xtx(non master)cards without the use of dongle or bridges?

Yes

[DaMulta]

I think I didn't turn on CF right the first time, because I didn't turn off that sample like it told me to do.

Stock GPU 3Dmark05

http://img.techpowerup.org/070830/3d05working.jpg

http://img.techpowerup.org/070830/3d05workin2.jpg

[Random Murderer]

I think I didn't turn on CF right the first time, because I didn't turn off that sample like it told me to do.

Stock GPU 3Dmark05
(scores)

dude, something must be wrong with your rig

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v630/Bobdole666/pwnage.jpg

[DaMulta]

Well you have to have ATi tool on for this to work with the the right clocks.

[Random Murderer]

Well you have to have ATi tool on for this to work with the the right clocks.

huh?
sounds like an excuse to me.

[DaMulta]

What do you get in 06?


YOU also have a Core 2 Quad Q6600, B3 stepping, @ 3 GHz, 1333 FSB Pin Modded/
====
I was answering my own question up above on my last post.

[Random Murderer]

What do you get in 06?


YOU also have a Core 2 Quad Q6600, B3 stepping, @ 3 GHz, 1333 FSB Pin Modded/
====
I was answering my own question up above on my last post.

scores won't show up on my system in 06, the test runs fine, but i can't get my scores because of the orb bullshit...

[nflesher87]

What do you get in 06?


YOU also have a Core 2 Quad Q6600, B3 stepping, @ 3 GHz, 1333 FSB Pin Modded/
====
I was answering my own question up above on my last post.

still man, you should be crushing his score with those 1950XTXs
seems like you have some troubleshooting to do :(

[Random Murderer]

still man, you should be crushing his score with those 1950XTXs
seems like you have some troubleshooting to do :(

my point exactly!

[DaMulta]

http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/379/3d_1.gif
ATI Radeon X1950XTX CrossFire Review

http://www.bjorn3d.com/Material/revimages/video/sparkle8800/3dmark06_267ghz.png
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read_pf.php?cID=1050

http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/287/3dmark06-1280.gif
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=287&type=expert&pid=6

I think it's running fine.....

[DRDNA]

I did some reading up on using software crossfire and your right as you have shown it works but i have read that the performance is minimal on the high end x1xxx cards(the ones that have master-cards) ...Hopefully this isnt the issue.GL
And your scores seem ok though.
C2D makes a huge difference.

[Scrizz]

sw33t

[Wile E]

Hmmm, time to overclock, damulta. You almost match my 2900. lol Just messin.

Seriously tho, nice setup. You still thinking about TECing them?

[nflesher87]

http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/379/3d_1.gif
ATI Radeon X1950XTX CrossFire Review

http://www.bjorn3d.com/Material/revimages/video/sparkle8800/3dmark06_267ghz.png
http://www.bjorn3d.com/read_pf.php?cID=1050

http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/287/3dmark06-1280.gif
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=287&type=expert&pid=6

I think it's running fine.....

I suppose they are!

[Soulja]

Well as i found out software crossfire was enabled in cats 6.11 for all the x1900 and x1950. So you can missmatch them and still get crossfire working wia software but with not as large improvment as with master card.

[DaMulta]

Hmmm, time to overclock, damulta. You almost match my 2900. lol Just messin.

Seriously tho, nice setup. You still thinking about TECing them?

Thinking about ordering that today:toast:

Well as i found out software crossfire was enabled in cats 6.11 for all the x1900 and x1950. So you can missmatch them and still get crossfire working wia software but with not as large improvment as with master card.

My scores seem dead on, I think it was because of the problem that I'm having 2d clocks stay on without ATi tool turned on.

I also don't have to have any cables to make it work:) Thats a ++++

[technicks]

Nice one Damulta. I would love to buy them from you for $50;):D

Btw am i the only one who dislikes InnocentCriminal's avatar so much.:laugh:
It scares me every time it pops up.LOL

[DaMulta]

This thread is awesome, because all the people that are in it, are still here to this day!!!

This was a cool moment. Then I hit the dang cold bugs on one of the cards.....errrrr

X1950XTX does not like -c :(

[christof139]

You'll get about the same 3DMarks with two 2600XT's. I have two Saphire 2600XT's with all acessories and only a few months old and they worked fine for METW and RTW-BI series and Mark of Chaos series etc., but I don't play FPS games so I don't know how they would do. I replaced my 2600xt's with two 4670's and score in the mid to high 11,000's depending on my settings.

Yhe Saphire 2600xt's OC very well and run cool. Fan noise bothers some people but my case fans are louder than the card fans anyway.

I have to put my two 2600xt's on sale at ebay, plus a ton of other things this winter.

Chris

[DOM]

You'll get about the same 3DMarks with two 2600XT's. I have two Saphire 2600XT's with all acessories and only a few months old and they worked fine for METW and RTW-BI series and Mark of Chaos series etc., but I don't play FPS games so I don't know how they would do. I replaced my 2600xt's with two 4670's and score in the mid to high 11,000's depending on my settings.

Yhe Saphire 2600xt's OC very well and run cool. Fan noise bothers some people but my case fans are louder than the card fans anyway.

I have to put my two 2600xt's on sale at ebay, plus a ton of other things this winter.

Chris SS ?

[christof139]

SS of what?? The 3DMark06 or the two Saphire 2600xt cards?? I can't sell them here because of the rules but can and eventually will put them on Ebay.

The 3DMark06 I only may have, or may not have in notebook form, as I am not using the 2600xt's now, but they were decent.

Chris

[DOM]

2 XFired HD 4670

im not looking to buy them my PALIT 9600GSO get like 11-12k stock :D

[wolf]

Hmm the guys rig is ready to run Crysis for sure! :toast:

DX10 is pointless when it's visually barely noticeable and runs like a pile of dirt.

the thing is, dx10 hardware excels at dx9.... but your point is well made

[christof139]

2 XFired HD 4670

im not looking to buy them my PALIT 9600GSO get like 11-12k stock :D

Oh. Someone here was interested in two 2600xt's.

No screenies just Notepad record of 3DMark06 demo/test version results for my two Xfired 4670s.

Resoulution was 1280x1024 with high settings (varied and did not record all settings):

Result Analyzer

Similar systems

Unfortunately the ORB contains only 1 similar system configuration(s), which is an insufficient amount of produce a comparison graph. All systems
Systems in total: 6,976,868


Your system ,Common system, Fastest system

3DMark Score: 11794 3DMarks, 11100 VirtualMarks, 33945 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score: 5078, N/A, 12474
SM 3.0 Score: 6249, N/A, 18134
CPU Score: 2423, N/A, 8284

Overview

Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Microsoft Windows Vista Microsoft Windows Vista
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ / 2.8 GHz processor, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400, Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 / 3.2 GHz processor
ATI Radeon HD 4670 x2, NVIDIA 8800GT, ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2
Memory: 3072 MB 2176 MB 2048 MB


Result Info


Your system Common system Fastest system
Validity Please note that this result has been produced using display drivers which have not been validated or approved by Futuremark and will not be visible on default result search on the ORB or on the Hall of Fame. For a list of currently approved display drivers for your hardware, click here OK
Name Untitled QUANTUM FORCE BlackOps + 4870x2 CrossfireX - Leghorn [MemoryExtreme Team Italy]


Description

QX 9770@445*13 1,92V Ln2 -125°/2 gb CS 1800@890 6-6-5-15 PL6/2*4870x2 @850-1000 stock cooling/Pc Power&Cooling 1200W
Date: Nov 15, 2008 21:33 CST, Oct 28, 2008 16:33 CDT
Case: Not specified, Not specified
Processor cooler: Not specified, Not specified
Graphics card cooler: Not specified, Not specified
Case cooler: Not specified, Not specified
Power supply: Not specified, Not specified

General Information

Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP, Microsoft Windows Vista
System type: 32-bit, 32-bit
Motherboard manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD, Foxconn
Motherboard model: MS-7388, BlackOps
Hard drive model: WDC WD2500AAKS-00VYA0, Drobo (second generation, 2TB)
WDC WD800AAJS-22WAA0 ATA Device

Memory 3072 MB 2048 MB
Module 1 1024MB, 1024MB
Module 2 1024MB. 1024MB
Module 3 1024MB, 1024MB
Module 4 1024MB, 1024MB


Processor information

Processor: AMD Black Edition Athlon 64 X2 5400+ / 2.8 GHz processor, Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770 / 3.2 GHz processor
Processor clock: 3200 MHz 5788 MHz
Sponsors:
Physical / logical processors: 1 / 2, 1 / 4
Multicore: 2 Processor Cores, 4 Processor Cores
FSB: 200 MHz, 445 MHz

Display information

Graphics card: Sapphire DVI - VGA convertor Generic VGA, VisionTek HD4870 x2 - graphics adapter - 2 GPUs - Radeon HD 4870 X2 - 2 GB


Graphics card vendor: Unknown Vendor(Saphire), ATI Technologies
Graphics memory: 512 MB, 1024 MB
Core clock: 27 MHz, 18 MHz
Memory clock: 13 MHz, 9 MHz
Driver name: ATI Radeon HD 4670, ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2
Driver version: 6.14.10.6879, 8.530.0.0
Driver status: WHQL - Not FM Approved, WHQL - FM Approved
Linked display adapters: Yes, No


Result details

Benchmark settings

Program Version 3DMark06 Revision 1 Build 0, 3DMark06 Revision 1 Build 0
Resolution 1280x1024, 1280x1024
Full Screen Anti-Aliasing None, None
Texture Filtering Optimal, Optimal
Vertex Shader Profile 3_0, 3_0
Pixel Shader Profile 3_0, 3_0
Force Full Precision No, No
Disable Post-processing No, No
Force Software Vertex Shaders No, No
Force Software FP Filtering No, No
Disable Harware Shadow Mapping No, No
Colour Mipmaps No, No
Repeat Count Off, Off
Fixed Framerate Off, Off

Main test results

3DMark Score: 11794 3DMarks, 33945 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score: 5078, 12474
SM 3.0 Score: 6249, 18134
CPU Score: 2423, 8284

Test Results

Graphics Tests: 1 - Return to Proxycon: FPS41.13, FPS101.87 FPS
2 - Firefly Forest: FPS43.49, FPS106.02
CPU Tests CPU1 - Red Valley: FPS0.77, FPS2.73
CPU2 - Red Valley: FPS1.23, FPS4.02HDR Tests 1 - Canyon Flight: (SM 3.0) FPS71.53, FPS225.84
2 - Deep Freeze: (SM 3.0) FPS53.45, FPS136.85

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One advantage with the ATI cards is that they will run older games like METW-VI1 etc. OK, and NVIDIA 8000 and above cards won't.

So, tests scores I posted are decent and I didn't pay much for the CPU (see my system specs) at ~ $68 and both 4670 cards at ~ $150 including shipping.

Chris

PS: Note, my CHEAP AMD system beats a stock Intel E8400 and a 8800GT. Not bad for being an EL CHEAPO.

[SiliconSlick]

Cool thread, I have just one comment. How about just a single game FPS score - because ..
3dmark is just a bencher really and their '06 to 'vantage changes comparisons enough that people can argue - and some fps score would give us more a real world idea - then "the bread crab" could kabittz and fo shizzle with his score... and I could make up my mind. (pick a good game that likes it - haha! )

Anyway - it's great with no connectors - that's what I like about the whole deal - plus the smashing of the "can't be done" rumors. (glad someone else is that fired up to do it)

[DaMulta]

two x1950XTX cards run like one 2900XT card.

[christof139]

People have to get FRAPS for game FPS'.

Chris

[DaMulta]

no u need to get TPUBenchl on the front page so it's the same test again and again.


http://www.techpowerup.com/tpubench/

[christof139]

OK. I got it. It won't hurt my brain or the remainder thereof will it??

Chris

[DaMulta]

Yes it will, because some of them want demos, and others do not....

When you get it setup save it:)

[christof139]

Some of whom or what want demos??

Some of the tests want demos?? I thought thie was a complete tester. So, this means that if it wants demos I have to give it some demos, but what demos am I to give it??

This sounds like that 4-letter word 'work'.

I have to yet determine how to set it up. Just kidding. I will get around to it.

By Jove, my brain does hurt a wee bit already.

Chris

[christof139]

FRAPS Benchmarks from Excel spreadsheet for two HD 4670's in XFire at 765MHz core * 1130MHz Mem on Crysis at Medium Settings with 4xAA (I think I set it to that AA) and 1280x1024 resolution:

Frames Time (ms) Min Max Avg FPS
2870 120000 17 31 23.917FPS

Overall the Crysis demo played fine at these FPS and settings and looked very good, plus I liked blowing up the boats and shooting down a jet or two with the ground mounted LMG's. Brought back memories of firing the M-60 GPMG at long ranges with controlled short bursts, and at shorter ranges with some nice long bursts, like an entire 100-round belt. :rolleyes::rockout: Too noisey though.

However, Crysis crashed as do some other games, and I think I may have to fiddle with some things in my CHEAP MSI K9A2 CF-F v1.0 mobo's BIOS. Also, Windows XP SP2 gives me errors in games as does SP3. I already fiddled with the BIOS last night a bit and lowered my video cards to 765MHz core x 1130MHz memory and this seems to be working. Must test a bit more and maybe fiddle with the BIOS a bit more, but I suspect the video cards were clocked to high since the Saphire HD 4670 is not a great OCer but it does perform very well at stock and slight OC's. Stock settings are 750MHz core x 1000MHz memory and upper limit for OC is 778MHz core x 1140MHz memory so OCing is limited on this model of the Saphire HD 4670 cards, plus the cards run very cool.

I have to read and experiment with the TPUBenchl. I don't like doing that, as I have too much to do but never do all that anyway but am still pressed and somewhat lazy and don't need even a minor brain strain/fiddle-diddle ATM.

Chris

[SiliconSlick]

Nice job on the benchmarks christof139 - and useful as well since Sapphires are pretty available.
I thought the 17 min was a good number for the range - I've seen a lot worse.

[christof139]

Thanx, but my system is still a bit slow, but the unpatched Crysis Demo is very playable. I even drove the NK trucks around and smashed them all up, demolition derby in Detroit.

Here are some reviews and also I see that a Spahire 1GB GDDR3 versionof the 4670 exists.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1590/sapphire_radeon_hd_4670_in_crossfire/index.html
Saphire review, Xfire.

http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=617&Itemid=27&limit=1&limitstart=5
Saphire review.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_4670_IceQ_Turbo

http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php?reviewid=632&pageid=1

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_ati_radeon_4670_performance_review/page11.asp
My setup isn't doing to well according to these benchmarks, but they are running an E8600 and Vista64 compared to my 5400+ BE and XP Pro32.

http://ads.justrelevant.com/product_detail.php?ad_partner=motherboards&ad_channel=&ad_master_id=700422571
Saphire 1GB GDDR3 version of the 4670 and costs about $30 more than the 512MB version.

Chris