The US out of HD2900Pro's?

[Kursah]

I am a loser, and even though I can't afford a 2900Pro, and will have to wait until possibly after X-mas/New Years for a 2950Pro, I have been watching the Newegg page for 2900Pro's.

Well I just went on and found that all of them are OUT OF STOCK!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=2900pro&x=12&y=28

But I also found some good news:

Sapphire 2900Pro 1GB GDDR4 512-bit - Out of Stock (ETA:10/08/2007)

So those of you wanting the 1GB version may be in luck, and I'm sure there will be one more run of the 512mb's before it's all said and done. But maybe not. Time will tell!

This has to go in the record books for quickest release to EOL in Vid card history lol! These went at record speed!

:toast:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102707

[JC316]

Which is exactly why I got mine Saturday and it's in step 5.

[wickerman]

Well with a stop gap card like this, your best bet is buy as soon as it hits the shelves. I payed $265 shipped for my HD2900 pro off newegg, and now your lookin at $290 just about, and they are not in stock anywhere. You may have to wait for the slower HD2900GT or the faster HD2950s that are coming later this year (nov-dec).
It is the same deal we've seen many time, such as with the 6800GS PCI express, or the more recent 7900GTO. Its a card built to sell, there will be faster ones coming, but if you play your cards right (pun intended :rolleyes:) you can usually come out ontop. I upgraded from a 8800GTS 320 to the HD2900 pro 512mb, and sold the GTS for more than I payed for it. I then bought the 2900 pro for less than it sells for now, and odds are when the faster cards arrive I could still probably sell the 2900 pro for at least what I payed for it. So I wound up with a faster card and earned a few bucks doing it. Odds are once the faster cars launch you'll be picking the 2900pro off ebay for a fair chunk of change, or waiting in line to pay a little bit more for the newer editions. AMD knows the sub $300 market is where the high end gamers really like to shop, as $400 and $500 cards are just a bit outrageous for most people, and as soon as the pro launched, it sold out in a matter of days. The EOL for the 2900 pro was set at "Q4 07" so odds are by the end of the year you wont see em coming back in stock at retailers.

I just wish ATI would kill the useless CCC and go for a system like nvidias driver panel, I much prefer it. The CCC worked at first but now its completely dead and I cant get to it.. But the card clocks well via riva tuner (ATI tool didnt work either...) so I'm happy. Aside from the driver issues I have been having it was well worth the upgrade...crysis at 1920x1200 on highest detail is perfectly playable, so I cant complain!

[largon]

Don't worry, RV670 boards are coming right away to fill the gap that R600 leaves.

RV670 > R600
Except for power consumption. :p

[AddSub]

They must be selling pretty fast, or that rumor about limited quantity/availability was actually true and not some sort of ATI/AMD marketing ploy.

[Tatty_One]

is the 2950 going to be faster? Certainly a lower fabrication process so less power consumption/heat......DX10.1 but the stuff I have read is not in any way conclusive that it will actually be faster, I am not saying it wont, just unsure that it will!

I dont think the UK has quite taken the Pro by storm as the US has, there are still a lot available over here.....but of course more expensive.

[largon]

Basic architecture is the same so no clock2clock advantages should be expected. But due to smaller process the core freq will be alot higher (>100MHz) and the tweaked GPU will most certainly OC considerably higher than R600.

1GHz GPU might very well be doable on out of the box...

IMO, this R600Pro -mania is shortsighted since RV670 will come in mid nov.

[Tatty_One]

Basic architecture is the same so no clock2clock advantages should be expected. But due to smaller process the core freq will be alot higher (>100MHz) and the tweaked GPU will most certainly OC considerably higher than R600.

1GHz GPU might very well be doable on out of the box...

IMO, this R600Pro -mania is shortsighted since RV670 will come in mid nov.

yeah I must admit I have been sorely tempted but I think I might wait, either for the 2950 or perhaps a couple of the 8800GT's in SLi, the Pro, whilst excellent value for money is not a huge upgrade for me and I think I will see better deals when these new cards arrive.

[tigger]

if you guys with 2900pros are lucky,you may be able to sell them before the 2950 come out for more than you bought them for :D

[Tatty_One]

if you guys with 2900pros are lucky,you may be able to sell them before the 2950 come out for more than you bought them for :D

It's easy really, you buy one, flash it with the XT Bios and sell it for a lot more as an XT :D

[JC316]

It's easy really, you buy one, flash it with the XT Bios and sell it for a lot more as an XT :D

That is quite tempting actually, but the way I see it, after the sale of my 8600, I have $150 in an HD2900XT, you can't beat that deal :nutkick:

[Tatty_One]

That is quite tempting actually, but the way I see it, after the sale of my 8600, I have $150 in an HD2900XT, you can't beat that deal :nutkick:

Very true, but how about buying 10 Pro's, very carefully open the boxes, flash them all XT, very carefully seal the boxes and make $150 per card? Now of course none of us here would ever dream about doing that and we should not under any circumastances, but I bet many have thought of it, kinda dishonest IMO and possibly boredering on the illegal.....not sure :eek:

[Sasqui]

kinda dishonest IMO and possibly boredering on the illegal.....not sure :eek:

One word: fraud

I'll bet these things sell at near XT prices on eBay... especially if listed as "flashed with an XT" bios and yadda, yadda yadda.

[Kursah]

Very true, but how about buying 10 Pro's, very carefully open the boxes, flash them all XT, very carefully seal the boxes and make $150 per card? Now of course none of us he would ever dream about doing that and we should not under any circumastances, but I bet many have thought of it, kinda dishonest IMO and possibly boredering on the illegal.....not sure :eek:

Different boxes also, from what I've seen both HIS and Sapphire have very clearly labeled the cards 2900 PRO. And I'm sure finding XT boxes wouldn't be the easiest. That would definately take it to Fraud level for sure!

Well all we can do is see how the dust settles from the 8800GT and 2950Pro launches. I'm fine with missing the 2900Pro deals atm, nothing I can do about it anyways hehe. So I will look forward to a cooler running 2900Pro. I'm planning on sticking with XP so DX10 isn't on my forefront, unless they create DX10+ support under XP. And I'm not too worried about that, but having all my games perform great @ 1440x900 for the next year or two is definately my purpose for upgrading.

Even if the 2950pro isn't a very negligable jump in performance compared to the R600, it'll still be a good deal, and hopefully will shine with overclocking. Again time will tell.

:toast:

[Tatty_One]

One word: fraud

I'll bet these things sell at near XT prices on eBay... especially if listed as "flashed with an XT" bios and yadda, yadda yadda.

Now I was thinking the Big "F" word also.....but I am actually not so sure.....the ONLY difference between a Pro and an XT is actually the BIOS (which gives it the clocks/voltage only) so technically if you flash the pro it truly is an XT.....again tho....dunno about that.

[InfDamarvel]

It is true you could easily sella 2900PRO and flash it to XT and sell it for more lol.

[Tatty_One]

Yeah thinkin about it, I spose you could still call it the Big "F" whichever way you look at it.......of course you could get round the box issue by saying they were OEM!!

[DaMulta]

I just wish ATI would kill the useless CCC and go for a system like nvidias driver panel, I much prefer it. The CCC worked at first but now its completely dead and I cant get to it.. But the card clocks well via riva tuner (ATI tool didnt work either...) so I'm happy. Aside from the driver issues I have been having it was well worth the upgrade...crysis at 1920x1200 on highest detail is perfectly playable, so I cant complain!

CCC was made because of Vista and net frame.

You need to install Netframeworks form MS to get CCC to come up and work.

[DaMulta]

I flashed two cards that I ordered days about(So most likely not the same batch) into XTs with -newbios so the voltage should of went up too.

[Tatty_One]

You can actually get 3rd party modded Catalyst drivers without CCC if you hate it that much, or at least U used to be able to.

[Sasqui]

Now I was thinking the Big "F" word also.....but I am actually not so sure.....the ONLY difference between a Pro and an XT is actually the BIOS (which gives it the clocks/voltage only) so technically if you flash the pro it truly is an XT.....again tho....dunno about that.

Bugs me to hear stories of people who don't get what they think they're buying. Call it ethics. You just got to ask youself "how would I feel?" I'm sure there would be plenty of folks out there who would never know, but that doesn't make it right. Sorry, off my soapbox.

I flashed two cards that I ordered days about(So most likely not the same batch) into XTs with -newbios so the voltage should of went up too.

Hey, you mentioned a thread talking about the flash, was it the "Sapphire HD2900 Pro" thread?

[Tatty_One]

Bugs me to hear stories of people who don't get what they think they're buying. Call it ethics. You just got to ask youself "how would I feel?" I'm sure there would be plenty of folks out there who would never know, but that doesn't make it right. Sorry, off my soapbox.



Hey, you mentioned a thread talking about the flash, was it the "Sapphire HD2900 Pro" thread?

I agree totally....but my point was....it IS a 2900XT once it's flashed, there is no physical difference.

[DaMulta]

Hey, you mentioned a thread talking about the flash, was it the "Sapphire HD2900 Pro" thread?
yes

I agree totally....but my point was....it IS a 2900XT once it's flashed, there is no physical difference.

besides the serial number on the card

[Tatty_One]

yes



besides the serial number on the card

Lol....thats not physical difference.....well I was talking bout hardware :p

[Kursah]

Figured I'd update, meant to post it yesterday, but it seems ETA for the 1GB was an ETA for removal! And I mean, complete too! If you click on the first link, it just shows the HIS and Sapphire 512mb versions, out of stock. Click on the second link that was the Sapphire 2900Pro 1GB, and it takes you to a page full of ALL Sapphire cards, minus that one.

I hope those of you that got your orders in can enjoy the hell out of these cards! :toast:

[JC316]

Figured I'd update, meant to post it yesterday, but it seems ETA for the 1GB was an ETA for removal! And I mean, complete too! If you click on the first link, it just shows the HIS and Sapphire 512mb versions, out of stock. Click on the second link that was the Sapphire 2900Pro 1GB, and it takes you to a page full of ALL Sapphire cards, minus that one.

I hope those of you that got your orders in can enjoy the hell out of these cards! :toast:

Yeah, me too. I had a gut feeling that they were going to be gone before the weekend was up and I was right. Ordered just in the nick of time :cool:

[PVTCaboose1337]

mmm... those went fast, am I mean... Lets all go check ebay this is like scammers dream...

Well these look quite fun, the flashing part... I wonder if it will kill it, but... we will see, looks amazing.

[strick94u]

my hope was the 2900xt would be fast enough to force nvidia to drop their prices didn't happen, well the 2900 pro would force it nope not enough to go around. anyway micro center has them both in stock here in Houston. me I just went ahead and got another 8800 gts 640 superclocked for sli.