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freeboy
10-14-2007, 02:18 AM
looking at 775 mobos and it comes down to these two chipsets ... and probably either an asus p5k with the 35 chip orthe evga sli 680 etc

.. anyway many divergent opinions...
Please add your insight and enlighten me!

theonetruewill
10-14-2007, 02:19 AM
If you might go crossfire go with the P35, If you might go SLI, go with the 680.

panchoman
10-14-2007, 02:23 AM
get a gigabyte p35 dq6(or anyother gigabyte p35 board) and it'll kick 680i in the balls if you aren't gonna be doing sli

freeboy
10-14-2007, 02:49 AM
Seems the sli is NEEDED for the OCZ chips.. the el 6800 ddr2 memory I wanted to get.. stuff is really looking great for latency and speed increases at oc.. but if I punt those ram, I will get the asus board p5k chip and some other ram.. do not know much about the ddr2 stuff, so only going by reviews and manu reputations... any choices in ram if I punthte ocz 6800 el?
other ocz? crucial? kinston.. price is less a concern than SPEED!

panchoman
10-14-2007, 02:51 AM
i say grab 2 gigs of crucial ddr2 1066 and pop em into a gigabyte p35 dq6 w/ a q6600 g0 = crazy comp

freeboy
10-14-2007, 02:55 AM
rather than a 6850 for cheap 280?

panchoman
10-14-2007, 02:59 AM
a q6600 is only like 50 bucks more then a e6850, i'd say grab a q6600

JC316
10-14-2007, 03:02 AM
Personally, I would go with the E6850. The quad core is pretty useless right now and by the time that it gets used, there will be better Quads out. The E6850 is a beast and will serve you well, plus thats pretty cheap on it.

panchoman
10-14-2007, 03:04 AM
its varies from person to person as what they want. personally i'd say quad, and im sure many will agree with me, and then people would agree with jc as well.

freeboy
10-14-2007, 03:07 AM
I am still looking at the comparisons with that ocz reaper, will and sli at 400 fsb.. er 1600? be aduqquit to pump up the speedsd with the cpu? I am 60/40 leaning toward the evga 680 sli, not for the sli but for the compatibility issue with the reaper ocz 6800, clocks at low latenceis per tested reviews at 1100 stable! and at 109 a great price, yet I would rather get a better occing mobo and chipset than a reduced price speed is more important than a few dollars, and really 30 50 dollars is cheap when we are talking diffences in ocing in the cpu!

thanks again all, this is really helping.. for those interested it is a ram ozcreaper el 6800

panchoman
10-14-2007, 03:16 AM
nah, dont get the ocz reapers, just grab crucial lanfeast memory already lol.

Chewy
10-14-2007, 03:19 AM
crucial is good because if you ever rma you are guarantied micron chips where as other manufacturers come out with nice ram that use micron chips... than switch it on you.. cosair, patriot.. this is a new trend for ram manufacturers.. even OCZ has done this I think.

see my ram.. this was originally micron chips.. now if I was to buy 2 more gigs I would get some other chips.. yet the sticks still cost the same as if they had micron chips... :wtf: damm scam artists lol now you go review my ram and you woould think your getting nice overclocking ram.. but than when you guy actually buy it today you get different timings on the sticks!!! not even the packaging!!! grrrr! lol

panchoman
10-14-2007, 03:30 AM
ocz, patriot, corsair, used to do micron d9's, and now they're switching back and forth from elpidia and micron, so they're not pure anymore, and you dont know what chip you're gonna get back

mitsirfishi
10-14-2007, 09:28 AM
p5k a winner hands down runs reasonabley cool cheaper in a fair few cases than a 680i and i think the p35 chipset have advantage over it plus great overclocking, gskill do d9's aswell as cruicual some 800 ballistixs or G.skill f2-6400-phu2-hz great overclockers :)

Wile E
10-14-2007, 10:01 AM
And memory being SLI certified doesn't really mean anything. It just means it will automatically overclock in a supported board. You can just manually OC them instead. I say go with Crucial Ballistix or G.Skill HZ series. Both are D9s.

And I think a P35 mobo with a Q6600 is the way to go. More and more apps are becoming multi-threaded, so the quad will pay off more in the long run. Even now, if you do any kind of video encoding or rendering, the quad is faster. The quad also has the benefit of much greater multitasking abilities. If you are buying now, I think it makes the most sense to buy the best you can afford. Playing the waiting game is silly, imo. If you always wait because something better might come along, you'll never end up buying anything.

freeboy
10-14-2007, 02:28 PM
well I think the decision is with the p35, and I have liked asus in the past with my 939sys.
I also found the cruxials, non led version of the 8500 at NE for cheap 129 (-30) so for 999 these look very very good, fast and approprite for the asus p5k... not sold on a quad, as I really just want spead for what I have now, and can always edump the conroe for a quad.. prices on the q6600 will fall as well!

Now the delima continues, p5k vinella, or delex or wifi or.. well you get my drift... one advantage is the p5k is crossover ready and I have a HIS1950 pro....

anybody know about 16x crossover? vs 4 x
is there testing?

Wile E
10-14-2007, 02:31 PM
pk5 Premium is supposed to be the best ASUS board.

As for 16x + 4x Crossfire, there are some losses, but you'll still see substantial gains in Crossfire. It's just that 8x + 8x or 16X + 16x are better.

freeboy
10-14-2007, 02:35 PM
and the winner is
crucial 8500 ddr2 2gig dual ram set, NE 129(-30mir)
e6850 270$
and asus p5k, of some varient
Thanks all these forum boards ROCK!

freeboy
10-14-2007, 02:37 PM
is there a difference in speed between the golden colored and the black CB 8500, other than the led which is nothing to me!?

Chewy
10-14-2007, 03:43 PM
nope thier both the same, just one has leds from what I know. well both are amazing atleast and I think they use the same chips.. 99.9% sure.

freeboy
10-14-2007, 04:53 PM
well at 99 bucks it looks like a steal at those speeds! should match up well with the p5k and the e6850

Wile E
10-14-2007, 07:52 PM
nope thier both the same, just one has leds from what I know. well both are amazing atleast and I think they use the same chips.. 99.9% sure.Yeah, they're both D9.

freeboy
10-14-2007, 09:41 PM
so why would anyone but 399 sets of ram when these test as good or better and cost 99?

Wile E
10-14-2007, 09:44 PM
so why would anyone but 399 sets of ram when these test as good or better and cost 99?Didn't do their research, or they really just want the LEDs. lol. But seriously, I've seen the Tracers for much less than 399. I think that's probably just where you looked.

panchoman
10-14-2007, 09:51 PM
CRUCIAL LANFEAST DANG IT. 69.99 for rebageded ballistix tracers w/ d9's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=40000147+1052308477&StoreType=7&CompareItemList=N82E16820148076%2cN82E16820148144&Description=crucial&bop=And

even the model numbers match up... ne for newegg. and bl for ballistix as a prefix.

trt740
10-14-2007, 09:53 PM
wow we posted these seconds apart I will delete mine

trt740
10-14-2007, 09:57 PM
http://img.techpowerup.org/071014/20-148-144-03.jpg

panchoman
10-14-2007, 09:58 PM
lol yeah. jinx you me... hmm... some lanfest ram! lol.

freeboy
10-14-2007, 11:04 PM
ok, the finals are in
E6850
CB 8500 DDR2 ram non led
and
anybody have the vinella asus p5k? seems everyone knows aboutthe expensive ones but there does not seem to be all that much differrence!

panchoman
10-14-2007, 11:06 PM
dont you dare get a p5k vanilla, get a gigabyte instead. p5k and under such as the vanilla suffer from terrible vdroop and crappy ocing.

freeboy
10-14-2007, 11:38 PM
thanks could not find these! I meant the 399 ozc kingston mushkin etc vs CB for the cheap that are SCARY fast thanks

Re tha lanfest one, I did look before and could not find, they are also not hte 8500 ram, does not that make some difference? One review showed a differnce in these two sets.. thanks again

trt740
10-14-2007, 11:49 PM
they will hit 8500 speeds no problem

panchoman
10-14-2007, 11:50 PM
you can always oc theram. im guess 8500 is 1066?

panchoman
10-14-2007, 11:51 PM
Trt, Thats The Second Time We Post At The Same Time With The Same Info... Wtf Lol.

mitsirfishi
10-15-2007, 12:31 PM
http://img.techpowerup.org/071014/20-148-144-03.jpg

that picture just reminds of you chavvy cars with drainpipe exhausts :roll: which we needs to be get rid of even though that looks kewl ram

freeboy
10-16-2007, 12:10 AM
ok, the finals are in agaijn!
CB 8500
E6850
and picked by a nose( I crack myself up) the Asusp5k-e based on the negative reviews at EH from angry buyers of Gig boards sorry you gig lovers!
due to the feeding frenzy for quality 939 mobo and cpu I expect to break even! Is that not amazing!

Thanks again to all!

trt740
10-16-2007, 12:25 AM
ok, the finals are in agaijn!
CB 8500
E6850
and picked by a nose( I crack myself up) the Asusp5k-e based on the negative reviews at EH from angry buyers of Gig boards sorry you gig lovers!
due to the feeding frenzy for quality 939 mobo and cpu I expect to break even! Is that not amazing!

Thanks again to all!

good luck finding memory that works with it.

trt740
10-16-2007, 12:27 AM
that picture just reminds of you chavvy cars with drainpipe exhausts :roll: which we needs to be get rid of even though that looks kewl ram

Well these pictures don't do it justice they look really cool.

http://img.techpowerup.org/071015/20-148-144-03.jpg

freeboy
10-16-2007, 03:46 PM
RE the board memory, Crucial works per many reviewers, had to go with the 6400 rather than the 8500 as EH changed the price right before I ordered! The Gig boards looked great too, other than the problem reviews in the eh customer feedback I probably would have gone that way...
so Crucial 2gigkit 6400.. I wanted to get expedited shiping, about 3 bucks and 2 day air, so it all gets here Thursday.. BUT screwed up, so I texted the CS folks..
WOW they upgraded to 2 day and added expedited shipping for FREE ssweet mother!
so. I am gettin a E6850 the p5k-E, o-clocking model and crossfire, and the Crucial mem 2gig for 441 shipped...

I hope to sell my fx60 939 cpu for the 270-300 and and the mem for 50-100 and the Asusi a8n32 sli dx mobo for 70-120.. these are what ebay shows currently for sold used like items.. and I should cover my costs! I am pleased and a HUGE thanks to alla here !

Feel free to pm me if interested in any of these

trt740
10-16-2007, 03:56 PM
[QUOTE=freeboy;495945]RE the board memory, Crucial works per many reviewers, had to go with the 6400 rather than the 8500 as EH changed the price right before I ordered! The Gig boards looked great too, other than the problem reviews in the eh customer feedback I probably would have gone that way...
so Crucial 2gigkit 6400.. I wanted to get expedited shiping, about 3 bucks and 2 day air, so it all gets here Thursday.. BUT screwed up, so I texted the CS folks..
WOW they upgraded to 2 day and added expedited shipping for FREE ssweet mother!
so. I am gettin a E6850 the p5k-E, o-clocking model and crossfire, and the Crucial mem 2gig for 441 shipped...

I hope to sell my fx60 939 cpu for the 270-300 and and the mem for 50-100 and the Asusi a8n32 sli dx mobo for 70-120.. these are what ebay shows currently for sold used like items.. and I should cover my costs! I am pleased and a HUGE thanks to alla here !

Feel free to pm me if interested in any of these[/QUOT

no i'm wrong you will get 300.00 ebay

freeboy
10-16-2007, 04:02 PM
300? on the 60? not clear what you mean, thanks

trt740
10-16-2007, 04:04 PM
Fx60 yes on ebay they are going from 399 to 400 .Which is hard for me to believe but thats what they are going for.

freeboy
10-16-2007, 04:23 PM
yep, that is really what pushed this decision! If I sell the xwind fan(heavy one) and the cpu for 300 I will be fine, anything over that is gravy.. and I guess if you had some investment in a 939 setup you might want a fx60 they are nice chips, imo, ! so... I am please to go this route and hopefully can get towaards the 4000 mark.. also will run dominator fan setup to cool the ram... fyi , which I have already
thanks all