The Classic Car Club!

[spectre440]

welcome to the classic car club!

the place to discuss and post pics of your classic cars, car restoration projects, and share the love for motoring history, etc' etc'

the rules are simple, in order to "be in the club", you need to own a car that is at least 20 years old!
(this means anything pre-1988)

personally, i own a 1978 VW bug, which i restored myself (for the most part)...
pics will be posted soon...

so there we go! post! tell us about your classic cars!

[JC316]

Man, I never saw this club. I have a 78 Cadillac Eldorado Barritz, an 86 Buick Park Avenue and a 51 Cadillac Fleetwood.

Here are some pics of the 78 eldo.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n10/JC316_2006/100_7633.jpg

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[hat]

I have feet, the most classic transportation device ever invented. Can I join?

[jpierce55]

http://www.supermotors.net/vehicles/registry/6680

1985 big block Mustang

[imperialreign]

Man, I never saw this club. I have a 78 Cadillac Eldorado Barritz, an 86 Buick Park Avenue and a 51 Cadillac Fleetwood.

Here are some pics of the 78 eldo.


:twitch: Friggin sweet, man! What motor she packin? 500, right?

[JC316]

:twitch: Friggin sweet, man! What motor she packin? 500, right?
425. One of the biggest problems with the eldorado's after 76 is the addition of the 425. The 500 made 350+HP, the 425 makes 180HP.

[imperialreign]

425?! Damn! I had thought Cadi was still packing their bb up through 1980!

[JC316]

425?! Damn! I had thought Cadi was still packing their bb up through 1980!

425 is still a big mofo, but with the emmissions that came in in 1978, the HP took a huge hit. 80 is when they started the pissy Eldorado with the 4.1L in it.

[Morgoth]

does oldtimer motorcycle count to?? http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=44987

[imperialreign]

425 is still a big mofo, but with the emmissions that came in in 1978, the HP took a huge hit. 80 is when they started the pissy Eldorado with the 4.1L in it.


425 is a bb without a doubt . . . I'm just used to most of the classic cadis I see around here packing a CMD bb. Y'know . . . a CMD 500 will squeeze into an early 80s Malibu, and make it a 12s car without any other upgrades :D

[JC316]

425 is a bb without a doubt . . . I'm just used to most of the classic cadis I see around here packing a CMD bb. Y'know . . . a CMD 500 will squeeze into an early 80s Malibu, and make it a 12s car without any other upgrades :D

Yeah, that 500 is a badass motor, and there is SO much you can do with it.

[Jizzler]

1968 Lincoln Continental 2dr. Going to start on her after I get my Stratus running.

Here's a pic of one: http://www.seriouswheels.com/1960-1969/1968-Lincoln-Continental-Mark-III.htm

[imperialreign]

Yeah, that 500 is a badass motor, and there is SO much you can do with it.

for sure! I'm more of a PMD fan, though. TBH, I'd take a 455 any day. All stroke, man!


Let's see, though, as far as vintage cars I've owned (although are no longer in my possession):

1987 Pontiac Grand Am SE - was a limited production vehicle. It was a fully loaded model, v6, 4spd, with the color keyed wheels, color keyed front grille, rear deck spoiler (very, very rare for production Grand Ams prior to 1990), sport tuned suspension, rally gauge cluster, digital odometer, LCD driver information center, etc. Car was totaled quite a few years ago :( It was one that I wanted to keep - just due to the rare options it had.


1981 Pontiac Firebird Formula - only had her about a month, ended up seeling it back to the guy cause I just didn't have the funds to get the vehicle street legal by VA code. Otherwise, it had an Edelbrock 455 crate motor shoved in it (literally), 4 brrl, buttered up to a Turbo 350 . . . that car could smoke a Vette like it was a Metro.


Man, I miss them both :(

[JC316]

Oh man, you wouldn't believe half the cars my parents owned. My mom was a dealer in the 80's and 90's. Just to name a few of the more exotics.

57 Chevrolet Convertible
79 Porsche 928 Grey Market direct from Germany
81 Porsche 944
71 SS 396
Jensen Intercepter
Numerous 70's corvettes
56 Cadillac
84 Thunderbird Fila edition
84 GT 350 Mustang Convertible
69 Mustang Mach 1 with an ULTRA RARE 390 in it.

The list goes on....and on... and on.

[JC316]

Our current project car is a 51 Cadillac Fleetwood that we are resto modding with a 4.6L DOHC Mark VIII motor. We are also using the entire suspension of the MarkVIII. Sadly it has been hampered and at a stand still for 2 years now due to 2 serious illnesses in the family (Mine and my Dads) and then house repairs.

Here are some pics of the progress so far.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n10/JC316_2006/engineresized.jpg
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n10/JC316_2006/engine3.jpg
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[imperialreign]

not a bad start - at least the body looks to be in decent enough shape, too. :rockout:

Yeah, we've had some great vehicles in the family here, too . . .

My grandfather on my father's side had a 72 Catalina. Pristine, show room shape. He lived in upstate NY, and during the winter, the car stayed in the garage. The exterior and interior were still the original factory blue color - 455 motor, too. 40K original miles. The clear coat hadn't even begun to bubble last time I saw it. It was supposed to be passed to me, but he never got around to adding it into his will before he died - and the immediate family auctioned it out :(

That is one car that I wouldn't have had the heart to modify. It would've stayed in that perfect state that it was in.

My grandfather on my mothers side had a 69 Olds Hurst 442 with the HO 455 option. Except for the Olds nose and 442 paint job, it looked similar to a Judge. Tranny was a 3 spd hydramatic, IIRC, and had the W-30 suspension option. Not really sure what happened to this muscle car icon, TBH.

[revin]

1970 Firebird Esprit, bought in 1978 w 106k on it and had a '76 400 from a stick car,w/TH350 We brought all 3of our newborn daughters home in it['83,'85,'88] and still have it.:rockout:
Went thru the 400 once in around 82, mostly basic with a balance. Tried a couple Erson camshafts, one that turned out to be a Prototype from Sig himself. His son Jon, coustom made me a "small" cam for the 400. Tried the "Proto" for a while, but it was dead till 3k RPM.
Then after a few months I got a B&M Super Hole Shot[not like the baby ones they make nowdays] it's a 3500 stall, and was made for cars putting out over 500 ft. lbs. That was a real blast and did very nice on our 6hr drives to the inlaws. {man 55 sucked:banghead:]
Somewhere around 85, picked up a '72 Esprit for the wife, it was a very nice ride too.
Also back in the early/mid '80's I got a 12 bolt Posi w/ 3.31 from a fullsize Impala 396 SS, and converted it to a leafspring. Ended up it was a 59" vs stock 55", so I evened up the track front to rear, and it was the best $200 spent, got 2 sec from it!!!!!!!!!!!

In '90 I drove a '73 Safari wagon home and yanked out the factory 455 w/127k on it:pimp: did i mention it was only $100?
Ran it for about a year, then went thru and rebuilt it, I smoothed out the sidebeams, stuck some TRW .030 over flattys in after I mirror polished the tops!!;), did the HO Specialtys oil hole champher mods to the crank,smoothed all the casting lines off the crank,had it all balanced, got an 80PSI oil pump with hardened intermediate shaft, drilled an oil feed hole for the dist. gear, tapped and plugged the front galley holes. Used the 6X-4 heads, and did the H-O porting to them[both intake and exhaust] took a couple drill motors and mannnny hours.

Turned out that when that "small" cam is put into a 455[468], it was a MONSTER low end killer. Had over 275 PSI at CRANKING:pimp::rockout::respect::twitch: I mean really it was a bitch, WAAAAAY too much lowend:banghead: Still raced and drove it daily for 'bout 11 yrs like that!

Right now I've had it all {littlerly}apart again painting the underbody, and getting the body ready to paint. I scored a pair of doors off a '78 car and spent over 200 hrs EACH prepping them. I had a new set of skins for them, but they were in need of just as much or more work, not to mention woulda have to R&R them so I sent them back.[ Thanks AMES, you are very honest about you're discriptions, and stand by Coustomer Satisfaction!]

Any way, I've just had the block deglazed and a Zero deck put back on, and just last week put the subframe back in. Sheese, nowdays it's $90 for a set of Main bearings, what the hell happened:mad:
Any way about 8 yrs ago I sold the '72 to a co-worker, and he had me put together a Butler Alum head stroker in it. Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiit NASTY:respect::respect::respect:
I really miss that car now:(:(
Oh well, I've got me a RA-4 cam for my 468, and think I might pull that 3500 out of the attic and just see what kind of fun I can stir up :p:D O yea, I only got 259k mi. on the car now.
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[revin]

added some pics now

[jpierce55]

added some pics now

Nice, that is a rare car. I don't like the Camaro's in that body style, but love the Firebirds. Somebody near me has one rotting right now (70 like yours) and won't sell it, they don't even have the windows rolled up :eek: .

[revin]

. I don't like the Camaro's in that body style, but love the Firebirds.

Oop's, i guess you havent studied the pics of my car real close:)
But I understand whet youre saying, that endura nose is soooo sexy!
Let me know if you spot what i'm talking about:cool::D:toast:

[imperialreign]

That's a defi bird nose . . . but unless I'm mistaken, isn't that a nose for a '68-'69 model?

Otherwise, it looks like a nice project to say the least - very clean tranny tunnel, too! Did you replace the whole floorpan, or did you manage to keep it in that great of shape and just had the underside painted?

:toast: on that PMD motor. I've always been a fan of their vehicles, and have been an enthusiast for their motors, too. Forget the csb cbb crowd. PMD's are all about stroke and torque. I can live with a slow-to-get-going . . . but nothing screams like a PMD at high-end :rockout:

Did you paint that bb PMD blue? It looks a little FeRd blue to me though . . . maybe just poor color quality in the pic?



Are you going for a street, strip or combo project?

[revin]

That's a defi bird nose . . . but unless I'm mistaken, isn't that a nose for a '68-'69 model?

No it's a correct 1970 nose

Otherwise, it looks like a nice project to say the least - very clean tranny tunnel, too! Did you replace the whole floorpan, or did you manage to keep it in that great of shape and just had the underside painted?

It all orginal metal, except for 1 side QTR panel, that I had replaced in 1979or 80. It is a full GM stamping with the jambs ect, not like the 1/2 skins they sell today.
I actually can bombed the entire underside with high quality enamel:pimp:


:toast: on that PMD motor. I've always been a fan of their vehicles, and have been an enthusiast for their motors, too. Forget the csb cbb crowd. PMD's are all about stroke and torque. I can live with a slow-to-get-going . . . but nothing screams like a PMD at high-end :rockout:

This 468 has a crap load of low end with that small cam. :respect::respect:

Did you paint that bb PMD blue? It looks a little FeRd blue to me though . . . maybe just poor color quality in the pic?

suckazz camera, it actually a 2 stage MetalCast anodized w/silver base and blue metalflake.



Are you going for a street, strip or combo project?

Just wanna have fun:twitch: I've always drove the 30 min. to the track to race, and only 1 time needed a tow back. Had a Holley D/P on, and to start i'd floor it, crank it up, but since my safty nutral switch was unhooked, it was in drive, so whrn it hit, and zinged to about 5k, it took oout my low gear sprag, and my spyder gears. If my wife hadn't been there, she may have never believed my, but it was a fluke, and I learned from it:banghead: At least it got me a killer Posi!!!!!!!!!

That stroker was a real screamer, would turn over 7.5k, but we kept shifts in the 6k range.
It had TONS of airflow thru it, and it really did come on strong thru the midrange and topend.

My 468 didnt have a lot of topend power, but it would xcellerate very fast, then kinda level off after 5k. 6k was my max for it, but do the math tire/rpm/gear= FAST.
But it had way less than 1/2 mile then it was maxed out at 6k. Dont remember which tire size I had on at the time, but a friend at work computed 154mph after allowance for auto converter. I made my friend that ended up buying my 72 that i did the stroker for, sick:p
No really he kinda puked at about 6k, but he wanted to go for it:ohwell:

O yea the teaser, it's the body line, I sharpned them all up like the later 79-81's, and kinda like the camaro.
FWIW, I had a 70 camaro just befor I got the bird, and they were even the same green metallic!!!!!!!!, but it burned up.
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[revin]

Here's a pic of the "heater only" box, that "will not fit an AC car", that I modded to fit my AC car:rockout: Actually did boyh cars like that:pimp:

http://img.techpowerup.org/071228/Capture019.jpg

o yea a rear pic

http://img.techpowerup.org/071228/Capture020.jpg

[jpierce55]

well Revin it is not the entire body I don't like on the Camaro, just the nose. So if you have a Camaro body (judging by the rims) and a Firebird nose.

Imperialreign, that is what makes the 70-73 unique and they are rare cars.

[revin]

Yea, I think the bird nose and tail light layout, give's that very distinc eagle look of the Firebird ready to pounce on it's prey:).

I too love these stock Pontaic Rally wheels, that's why I've never changed them to aftermarket.

The euro feel of the curves all over the car is awesome, I just wanted to get the more modern look as the late 79-81 bird bodyline has.

[imperialreign]

rev - sorry bout the mistake on the nose . . . it was a little hard to tell without a clear front shot.

looks like it ought to be a really nice turnout once your project is completed. Extra points for keeping a PMD motor in a tin indian :respect:

O yea the teaser, it's the body line, I sharpned them all up like the later 79-81's, and kinda like the camaro.

I thought it looked a little . . . sleeker. I had an 81 Formula for a short while, and absolutely loved that generation F-body and styling. I always thought especially the 80-81 F-body's had a more muscular look, but kept a very swept style to them (I think the up-swept tail contributed to that look). I also liked the seperated headlight buckets, and the slightly raised cosmetic "scoops" on the formulas (which were really easy to open up like most Pontiac's were). I'd love to get my hands on a 78 Bandit edition TA and restore it, but they're hard to find, and money is fairly tight . . .

BTW, absolutely beautiful color on that motor! Do you intend to do a lot of chrome or billet cosmetics - or leave everything blue (nothing wrong with that "stocker" look!!)?

[jpierce55]

Yea, I think the bird nose and tail light layout, give's that very distinc eagle look of the Firebird ready to pounce on it's prey:).

I too love these stock Pontaic Rally wheels, that's why I've never changed them to aftermarket.

The euro feel of the curves all over the car is awesome, I just wanted to get the more modern look as the late 79-81 bird bodyline has.

I like the big block to :D , did you see my link?

[Wile E]

425 is a bb without a doubt . . . I'm just used to most of the classic cadis I see around here packing a CMD bb. Y'know . . . a CMD 500 will squeeze into an early 80s Malibu, and make it a 12s car without any other upgrades :DIf you think that's cool, did you know you can squeeze one into a Chevette? Hot Rod did it. http://www.dieselchevettes.com/PDF/thebadseed.pdf

[imperialreign]

If you think that's cool, did you know you can squeeze one into a Chevette? Hot Rod did it. http://www.dieselchevettes.com/PDF/thebadseed.pdf


:twitch:

that near 'bout brings a tear to my eye! That just nabbed a spot in my list of most impressive things I've ever seen - beating out a LS7 powered Solstice (I never woulda believed that motor would fit right in if I had never seen the pictures) - oh, yeah, another Hot Rod great!

[68Olds]

I guess I need to take a few pictures of my oldie. I have a 68 Olds (duh - lol) Cutlass S convertable. It has just over 200k on it, with 7500 miles on the rebuilt original Rocket 350 and about 2000 miles on the Turbo 400 3spd automatic.

[jpierce55]

I guess I need to take a few pictures of my oldie. I have a 68 Olds (duh - lol) Cutlass S convertable. It has just over 200k on it, with 7500 miles on the rebuilt original Rocket 350 and about 2000 miles on the Turbo 400 3spd automatic.

Nice!

[tigger69]

heres mine.Cost a fortune,it did need some cosmetic stuff when i got it tho'.I think its one of the most beutiful cars ever made.

1955 mercedes sl300 gullwing.



http://img.techpowerup.org/071229/mb_21a.jpg

[TechnicalFreak]

I own a Charger -71 http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t207/roger_of_sweden/charger.jpg
Not my car on picture, but it gives you an idéa of how it looks. Mine is "Crazy plum metallic" with a Six-pack and pistolgrip shifter. Don't ask how fast it goes, I still haven't got my drivers licens.... (But hey, I can still OWN a car!)

[jpierce55]

Tigger, I love those cars in silver. I don't know how many are in the UK, but here it is an extremely rare car even if you did have the money.

[tigger69]

Damn sussed :p

Is it coz its a £100k+ car.I do love it tho'

[revin]

http://www.supermotors.net/vehicles/registry/6680

1985 big block Mustang
I like the big block to :D , did you see my link?


I did now, Damn that's nasty:rockout::rockout:

I love the sound.
The first clip i heard thought i was back in the stroker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great job, Hats off to ya.

[DaMulta]

Damn sussed :p

Is it coz its a £100k+ car.I do love it tho'

Do you have any inside shots of it? Is it a 3 speed?

[revin]

heres mine.Cost a fortune,it did need some cosmetic stuff when i got it tho'.I think its one of the most beutiful cars ever made.

1955 mercedes sl300 gullwing.

Sweetpickles you've gota be kiding.That is like a once ina lifetime dream.:respect::respect:

Those are about as bueatiful as they get.

i think that when John Deloron talked about the "europeion" influince to the 2ndGen Firebird,
you can see subtle hints of what he meant.

[revin]

I own a Charger -71 http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t207/roger_of_sweden/charger.jpg
Not my car on picture, but it gives you an idéa of how it looks. Mine is "Crazy plum metallic" with a Six-pack and pistolgrip shifter. Don't ask how fast it goes, I still haven't got my drivers licens.... (But hey, I can still OWN a car!)

My Good friend is a Mopar man, and he to has amoung others, origonal '70 Challenger RT 440/6 pack 4speed[inline], and it's[was] a screamer Ended up it dropped a valve.
Cherrish them it's well worth it!!!

Man just thumping around with that "purple" camshaft, made heads turn alot!!

[revin]

Extra points for keeping a PMD motor in a tin indian :respect:

Thanks, that's what really turns me on about the car. i'd put a Poncho in just about anything I could,xcept a GT40:nutkick:
BTW, absolutely beautiful color on that motor! Do you intend to do a lot of chrome or billet cosmetics - or leave everything blue (nothing wrong with that "stocker" look!!)?

Well this time i;m stepping outside the box, got an alloy intake, and a Canton Roadrace oilpan thats gold, and a pair of hard to get factory chrome valve covers that have the oildrippers spotwelded in the top, like the majority of a/c painted sets.

This last time around I had the valve covers and balancer in candy red, and the valley pan and stock oilpan in black, and the timing cover silver.
I may go ahead and use headers, since the 2.5 full exhaust is already set up for them, but those stock cast units sure did help keep the heat out!!!!!

EDIT

BTW I got that virgin Formula hood for $50, it was missing the back left conner, and i just grafted a section from a 70's vette rear valance that had a close profile of what I needed, and walah. I even did it away from the car, just looking at the otherside to shape the contour's, and the shop owner 'bout crapped when he seen it installed with fenders.......perfect match!!!
I also have a pair[actually 3more sets, but not so good shape] of mint rare 1971[only yr. for the rectangle sharkfin air extractor] fenders, that I drilled completly apart to seal behind all the brace's, and well also to get an exacting contour to the doors, and front nose and valance.[there stashed out in the shed w/ 1/2 the rest of the car]
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[revin]

My sweet fender's 1971 was only year for them!............................................. .......................................Gotta have a stock Steeringwheel!

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Whats that I have more of them????? :)

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Best Stock iron intake[not HO] topped w/800CFM M/T carb from later 70's..........................................and some of my "Dressup kit :)

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Killer 7 Bld 19"Stock A/C fan Gotta have that!!!!!

http://img.techpowerup.org/071231/Capture041.jpg

And some port work vs stock

http://img.techpowerup.org/071231/Capture044.jpg

And for rhe very keen, a closeup of the reshapeing. Note the trapazoid effect!

http://img.techpowerup.org/071231/Capture045.jpg

[imperialreign]

just based on those pics - those heads ought to flow really well for your combo. If you're getting serious about a motor buildup, though, you might want to find a shop that can benchflow the complete intake setup - carb to head. No point in running high flow heads if the carb will equate to sucking through a straw, especially if yer gonna go with an Edel intake . . . but, just by looks, it should suit you well

Oh, and kick-ass that you still got a PMD "woodie" steering wheel! Damn that suckers in great shape from what I can tell . . . it'd be worth quite a penny to have to replace!



:laugh: This thread 'bout needs to be re-named "Ooogle revin's F-body rebuild" :roll:

[revin]

Speaking of the flow, back in the 90's I got ahold of a rare 780 D/P Holley.
I ran it for 6 passes, then swapped over to my Q-jet. Did 8 passes.
All of them were quicker ET and faster mph with the big Q.

It's a very well matched carb for these heads.
As for the intake, sadly it's just a Performer, and not the RPM like I had on the stroker.
So it's really only as good as the stock[due to my <6k rpm] that I have xcept that its many lbs lighter.:)

As for the woodie, I also have about 4 differant wood dash inserts to choose from!!

[imperialreign]

just my opinion here, but as far as stock carbs go - Q's are the best.

But, TBH, I don't know all too much about carbs - I understand how they operate, and how to tweak them a little for tuning up a customers vehicle - but when it comes to outright tuning a carb for performance . . . :confused:

but, on the other hand, I understand EFI to a killer degree. It's kinda funny . . . the shop I work at has only two techs - me, and the "master tech" He knows all the old school stuff (which we do quite a bit of), and I cover all the newer tech (which covers quite a bit also). I remember once, when he was trying to describe how to tune a carb, I was just absolutely lost . . . but, when I was trying to describe how a CAN OBD system operates, he just wasn't getting it, either. :laugh:

[ex_reven]

this thread touches me in places i have never before been touched :p

[Wile E]

just my opinion here, but as far as stock carbs go - Q's are the best.

But, TBH, I don't know all too much about carbs - I understand how they operate, and how to tweak them a little for tuning up a customers vehicle - but when it comes to outright tuning a carb for performance . . . :confused:

but, on the other hand, I understand EFI to a killer degree. It's kinda funny . . . the shop I work at has only two techs - me, and the "master tech" He knows all the old school stuff (which we do quite a bit of), and I cover all the newer tech (which covers quite a bit also). I remember once, when he was trying to describe how to tune a carb, I was just absolutely lost . . . but, when I was trying to describe how a CAN OBD system operates, he just wasn't getting it, either. :laugh:I'm an EFI guy as well. I can do the carb stuff on a Holley style carb, and can read plugs, etc. But why do that when a computer and some sensors can do the work for me? lol.

I tuned my turboed 2000 Celi GTS myself with a borrowed laptop on my Apexi Power FC with the datalogit bundle. Used a wideband o2 and EGT to get my tune right.

[revin]

Another thing that we all, techie and non techie, share for sure is undisputable...................................... .................................................. .:eek::D
And has been around since the begining of mankind[and girls too]..............:).................................. .................................................. :twitch:

[revin]

BY THE SEAT of OUR PANTS and ears:rockout::pimp::respect:

[revin]

I can remember when an "ole timer" watched my set up a set of points, I set the gap, then fired it up popped the allen in the window, whipped it back and forth split the differance and he laughed his ass off when he put his dwell meter on it was deadnut 30*.
He told me "well i'm not dead yet, i'm still learning":toast:
When asked why i did that, i just thought that it seamed reasonable to split the means between the studders.

[revin]

just my opinion here, but as far as stock carbs go - Q's are the best.

On that note, the BOP's are the cream of the crop.
A big plus is the straight inlet fuel feed.
Also some have nearly fullsize primarys, ie... the venturi "bumps" are not large, thus allow for a more full size flow as the size primary plates.
Quite a few of the 800CFMer's are found on manual trans motors from the mid 70's.
Other than the SD Q, i believe that the other 800's are the eminsion series that begin with "170" numbers.
A quick look down the primary holes, and if the eyeball can see virtually the same size venturi bump as the throttle plate............................................. .......:pimp:

[zekrahminator]

Well, it's not really a true classic, but it definitely is a restoration project.

My friend Johnny owns a '94 Ford Explorer. Yeah, I know, real classic :p. Thing is, he got it for $100USD. Wanna know why? The brake line is gone (failed inspection, so no plates/registration), the alternator is going (battery won't hold a charge), the keys are locked inside the car, and the thing's got 160,000 miles on it. Johnny's got the parts he needs (including new key fobs!) on mail order, they'll be here in 6-8 weeks. Until then, all we can really do is polish it up and bump/buff the dents and scratches out.

Will have pics soon. It's got a moonroof, 4 wheel drive, an automatic transmission, clean upholstery, and mud tires :D.

[Wile E]

He got if for so cheap, he should spend his money on a lifted suspension, and a 5L v8 swap. :D

[Lazzer408]

Ah my old '85 TransAM. Original miles on it. Every option it can have from a power seat to power antenna, posi, 16" wheels, the rear wiper was removed. Last year the 305 was the largest engine option and first year of the TPI fuel injection. I traded it for a MUCH faster car show in the last picture.
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa247/lazzer408/TransAm/DSCF0223Small.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa247/lazzer408/TransAm/DSCF0225Small.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa247/lazzer408/TransAm/DSCF0214Small.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa247/lazzer408/TransAm/DSCF0218Small.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa247/lazzer408/TransAm/DSCF0217Small.jpg
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa247/lazzer408/Miata/New_wheels.jpg

[Wile E]

lol. I knew you were gonna bring up the Miata. How's she running? Got your tune ironed out now?

[Lazzer408]

lol. I knew you were gonna bring up the Miata. How's she running? Got your tune ironed out now?

How'd ya know. :D Yeh it's running better. I can stomp production 'muscle cars' with it now. I haven't actually dyno'd it yet. Should be 250-275hp at the wheels. Was the T4 on it last I talked to you?

[imperialreign]

that looks like a decent size garage you've got that TA, Laz - damn, I wish I had that much space to work with!!!:ohwell:

[Wile E]

How'd ya know. :D Yeh it's running better. I can stomp production 'muscle cars' with it now. I haven't actually dyno'd it yet. Should be 250-275hp at the wheels. Was the T4 on it last I talked to you?Yeah, but I don't think you had it tuned yet. Weren't you putting the old turbo on the woman's civic or something?

[Lazzer408]

Yeah, but I don't think you had it tuned yet. Weren't you putting the old turbo on the woman's civic or something?

That was the plan but I ended up swapping the Civic straight up for an MX-3. Civic was auto, 3 is stick. I already boosted the 3. Easy to do that one. It's not -the- original turbo from the Miata but it is the same model. It still needs an interclooler and engine management but I only have $230 invested for 6psi. Most of it is bolt on parts scavenged from similar cars like the 323 GTX and Probe. I'm considering an AWD conversion using a Protege diff. but that would make the 3 faster then the 5 and I can't have that. :D

DIY :nutkick: Greddy

[68Olds]

Your Trans Am is the same color blue as my Cutlass. I still need to take some decent pictures of it.

[Lazzer408]

Your Trans Am is the same color blue as my Cutlass. I still need to take some decent pictures of it.

I like it! :toast: Get some more pics.

[packs101]

I about to install a 454 BBC with a T 400 Trans into a 1979Malibu classic 2dr, any of you have
any suggestions on what type of motor mounts and trans mounts it might take to complete
this project thanks packs101

[packs101]

packs101 need to start this project by 3/4/08 I've looked in to the possibility of this working and have had positive results, any info posi/neg will be appreciated,thanks.

[packs101]

I about to install a 454 BBC with a T 400 Trans into a 1979Malibu classic 2dr, any of you have
any suggestions on what type of motor mounts and trans mounts it might take to complete
this project thanks packs101

:banghead:

[department76]

take a look at my daily driver, 1984 Ford Thunderbird - Turbocoupe. had it for a few years now, i'm the 2nd owner. cardomain page (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2289955)

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2289000-2289999/2289955_1_full.jpg