Need help choosing computer company.

[nguyenpeter76]

Why is cyberpowerpc and ibuypc w/e cheaper than the dell and hp?? are ibuypc and cyberpower pc reliable?? let me say that i wont build a comp on my own and im looking to get something like a 8800gt and q6600 and 2gb ram...

[hat]

You won't build it yourself? Why? It's very easy, and there's a great guide on how to on this forum: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15268

I hope I've swayed your opinion. Prebuilt computers are so overpriced, espically on the high-end units.

[nguyenpeter76]

meh parents wont let me cause they think ill mess up when it seems impossible but w/e

would yall recommend ibuypower or cyberpowerpc over dell and hp or w/e

do they last long?

[zekrahminator]

All of them cut corners, which'll bite you in the rear end in about a year, regardless of what warranty they put in.


If you really want to invest your money in a computer that'll last you two years or more, I hope you PM me, so we can discuss a way for me to build you a computer, and ship it to you.

[hat]

His parents won't trust some random dude over the internet either...
Well, I would choose IBuyPower. Just make sure to get a can of compressed air and clean it out every once in a while.

[zekrahminator]

His parents won't trust some random dude over the internet either...
Well, I would choose IBuyPower. Just make sure to get a can of compressed air and clean it out every once in a while.

You got a point there, but...I'm no less trustworthy than IBuyPower, considering my solid heatware (http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=50881), my credentials (moderator and paid news editor here), and the hundreds of people here willing to vouch for my good will.

I can get you a build with a Q6600 and an 8800GT, and warrant it for 3 years of high performance for $1200, not including monitor. I will include Windows Vista, Anti-Virus software, and an Office Suite.

[hat]

Parents can be assholes... my dad won't let me SELL my broken x1800.

[Taz100420]

Truthfully I would trust Zek over ANY prebuilt PCs

[kwchang007]

They're ok, but building is the best or letting someone build it for you...but honestly I think you should try a little harder to get your parents to let you do it.

[zekrahminator]

Official price quote:

$1150 as asked for, with Vista Home Premium, pre-installed and configured with Open Office as the office suite and Avast 14-month subscription as Anti-Virus. Shipped to your front door.

$1350 as above, with 20" widescreen monitor.

$1480 as above, with 20" widescreen monitor and Microsoft Office 2007 (Powerpoint, Word, Excel, and OneNote).

Here's how it breaks down...
$40 Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147041).
$28 DVD Burner (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106070).
$65 WD 250GB SATA2 HDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144417)
$300 ASUS NVIDIA 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121099)
$60 380W Antec Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371005) (high efficiency and silent).
$12 Keyboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109164)
$20 Wireless Mouse (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826105039).
$55 2GB DDR2 800 RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098) (2x1GB Dual Channel Kit).
$95 Gigabyte P35 Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059)
$280 Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017)
$105 Windows Vista Home Premium x86 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116202)
$13 shipping (I found A LOT of free shipping deals) brings the total to $1073, shipping from my house is roughly $60 (computers are heavy), and it's not unreasonable to ask a $17 labor charge. I would of course give you a small refund if shipping was less than $60.

[3991vhtes]

What's so bad about HP, Dell, Compaq, etc?

I'm on a HP Pavilion designed in 2003.

/off topic

[das müffin mann]

what ever you go with (hopefully zek) but whatever you go with just DONT go with a dell

[3991vhtes]

Dell's also a solid company. I've had one for a year and a half, and I just sold it.

[3991vhtes]

one more note, I'm not trying to cut down zek or anything, he's a good guy, but I'm only saying that namebrand PC's are good

[erocker]

Dell's also a solid company. I've had one for a year and a half, and I just sold it.

Hell no! The best thing you did was sell it!

[3991vhtes]

I don't see what's so bad about Dell? :confused:

[zekrahminator]

Dell makes good basic computers, as does Gateway and HP. My family has owned two very high-quality Gateway builds, a desktop that ran for six years before we gave up on it, and a Vista laptop we bought this spring that rocks out loud. All my school computers are Dells, excluding the crap terminal servers. It's a privilege to get on a Dell at our school... :laugh:. And my friend owns an HP computer, when he's not playing games on low settings 24/7, he's IMing people. As I said, great for basic/general use, but...if you want the quality that you can only get from a gaming computer, you'd better get it from someone who knows what they're doing.

[Fizban]

I agree, for instance, my grandmother....her last 3 PC's have been Dell, they've all served HER needs perfectly well. Would they serve my needs? Probably not. I haven't bought a brand-name desktop in years, I have bought brand-name laptops, but that's another story. Even then my laptop's not a Dell, HP, or Gateway (well it's not technically a Dell anyway it is an Alienware), and yes I know numerous people have complaints about Alienware, but frankly I've never known anyone (not counting online) with a laptop that can even touch mine in matters of sheer performance.

[DaMulta]

http://www.extreme-pc.ca/

Go there for a good perbuilt PC.

[a_ump]

Official price quote:

$1150 as asked for, with Vista Home Premium, pre-installed and configured with Open Office as the office suite and Avast 14-month subscription as Anti-Virus. Shipped to your front door.

$1350 as above, with 20" widescreen monitor.

$1480 as above, with 20" widescreen monitor and Microsoft Office 2007 (Powerpoint, Word, Excel, and OneNote).

Here's how it breaks down...
$40 Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147041).
$28 DVD Burner (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106070).
$65 WD 250GB SATA2 HDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144417)
$300 ASUS NVIDIA 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121099)
$60 380W Antec Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371005) (high efficiency and silent).
$12 Keyboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109164)
$20 Wireless Mouse (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826105039).
$55 2GB DDR2 800 RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098) (2x1GB Dual Channel Kit).
$95 Gigabyte P35 Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059)
$280 Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017)
$105 Windows Vista Home Premium x86 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116202)
$13 shipping (I found A LOT of free shipping deals) brings the total to $1073, shipping from my house is roughly $60 (computers are heavy), and it's not unreasonable to ask a $17 labor charge. I would of course give you a small refund if shipping was less than $60.

just curious im pretty sur \e u know wat ur doin but wat is the amperage on the 12v rail on that 380 watt psu, also im not sure wat rail the cpu uses but i htk intel cpus also use the 12v rail so im wondering if 380 is even enough for a quad core, and that graphic card, i figure u know wat ur doin but just curious

[hat]

It looks solid enough to me.

[a_ump]

i didn't figure it had 2 12v rails, i clicked on his link and the font wat like a wavy line so i couldn't see ow many it had or the amps. i didn't fifgure a small psu like that would have 2 12v rails nm, though i thk i'd still get one with a little more juice since the config has a quad core.

[Fizban]

Dude, have you...like ever typed before? It sure doesn't show....

[a_ump]

many times, typos just happen but im sure he got hte message so im not worried whether or not it says how or ow im sure he can figure it out :)

[hat]

He's talking about general grammar.

[Paulieg]

one more note, I'm not trying to cut down zek or anything, he's a good guy, but I'm only saying that namebrand PC's are good

Whatever you are smokin'...I want some :slap:

[Paulieg]

Biggest problem with prebuilt systems from Dell is limit upgrading and they usually lock the bios...at least an old Dell I had was locked.

[zekrahminator]

just curious im pretty sur \e u know wat ur doin but wat is the amperage on the 12v rail on that 380 watt psu, also im not sure wat rail the cpu uses but i htk intel cpus also use the 12v rail so im wondering if 380 is even enough for a quad core, and that graphic card, i figure u know wat ur doin but just curious

Two 17A 12V+ rails on an Antec power supply with 80% efficiency ought to run an 8800GT and a Q6600 just fine :).

[zekrahminator]

One more thing, it helps when reviewers claim they can run an even more power-hungry system on this power supply ;).

Other Thoughts: This psu easily powers a C2D/C2Q + 8800GTX. Don't get caught up in the "high wattage" game. Quality is where it counts the most.

The review itself, you can find here (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16817371005&SortField=0&SummaryType=0&Pagesize=10&SelectedRating=-1&Page=2), about halfway down the page. It was written on September 15th by a guy who goes by the name "EliteKiller" on Newegg.

[-2kill-]

Official price quote:

$1150 as asked for, with Vista Home Premium, pre-installed and configured with Open Office as the office suite and Avast 14-month subscription as Anti-Virus. Shipped to your front door.

$1350 as above, with 20" widescreen monitor.

$1480 as above, with 20" widescreen monitor and Microsoft Office 2007 (Powerpoint, Word, Excel, and OneNote).

Here's how it breaks down...
$40 Case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147041).
$28 DVD Burner (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106070).
$65 WD 250GB SATA2 HDD (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822144417)
$300 ASUS NVIDIA 8800GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121099)
$60 380W Antec Power Supply (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371005) (high efficiency and silent).
$12 Keyboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109164)
$20 Wireless Mouse (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826105039).
$55 2GB DDR2 800 RAM (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231098) (2x1GB Dual Channel Kit).
$95 Gigabyte P35 Motherboard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128059)
$280 Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017)
$105 Windows Vista Home Premium x86 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116202)
$13 shipping (I found A LOT of free shipping deals) brings the total to $1073, shipping from my house is roughly $60 (computers are heavy), and it's not unreasonable to ask a $17 labor charge. I would of course give you a small refund if shipping was less than $60.

Hahaha when you think about what a computer shop would charge to build a computer that price is madness. When I bought all my parts a couple of months ago they offered to build it for me for the small fee of $140 :shadedshu

[zekrahminator]

Well, when I came up with that labor charge, I thought two things:

1- This guys parents, if they won't let him have a learning experience and build the computer himself, it's going to be awful tough convincing them to let someone on the other side of America do it for them. I need to keep prices competitive, or else they'll just go "IBuyPower is X-amount-of-dollars cheaper, I'll go with them".

2- Keeping my overall estimates at a nice round number makes me look more professional :D.

[das müffin mann]

Hell no! The best thing you did was sell it!

agree 100%:toast:

[a_ump]

if u can't somehow order off zek, then its up to u really, all of those companys make solid systems so which ever has the best specs for the lowest price is wat i would go with, i've heard bad things about compaq here and there but that's from my friends at school and i thk their computers r just old:laugh:

[Laurijan]

PC-Shops usually doesn´t take much money for putting together a PC with your chosen components. Every PC-Shop I know lets you chose the parts you want and then can put the rig together for you - that simple

[AsRock]

What's so bad about HP, Dell, Compaq, etc?

I'm on a HP Pavilion designed in 2003.

/off topic

LOL.. Question is whats right with them..

[das müffin mann]

LOL.. Question is whats right with them..

lol

[CDdude55]

You won't build it yourself? Why? It's very easy, and there's a great guide on how to on this forum: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15268

I hope I've swayed your opinion. Prebuilt computers are so overpriced, espically on the high-end units.

Same here, Building your computer would be better and cheaper. I was also going to go with ibuypower but i just decided to build it myself since i have good computer knowlege and its fun to do. But its your pick. So i say go with ibuypoer or CyberPC becuase they offer more of a picking for gamers then dell or HP's expensive craps.:toast: