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strick94u
11-27-2007, 05:49 AM
Well a few months back my car was broken into I almost didn't call the police because I know they really won't do much for stereo theft, but since my stuff is all marked and numbered better call them anyway. I did not think it could get any worse when the officer
Pretty much blamed me for having a stereo worth stealing. Sorry I forced you into stealing all that nice stuff Mr. Crack head. What makes it worse Is the stealing keeps getting worse in the area and all the cops do is show up at 4 in the afternoon and write tickets to people coming home from work. What right do I have to complain about these idiots well last year I turned in a suspect in a rape case, the guy was going door to door asking and compiling a list of teenagers I felt something funny was going on and he matched a description the news put out. I left found a cop brought him where the guy The cop said yes he was real close to what was on the news yet did not even ask him for I.D 2 weeks later they busted him after a mother came home and found him on top of a 14 year old girl he had beat her pretty bad. I get summand to court to I.D him which I didn't mind but since I was not home when they came to summon me I get a warning that if I don't comply I could go to jail???? Anyway he pleaded out. Where is this going? well last week we had these people selling stuff door to door in an overly aggressive manner scared my 75 year old neighbor lady half to death the cop was already here from a half dozen calls about them and basically told us until they commit a crime he could not do a thing, we have an ordinance in place no solicitation last year member from same company held one old man against his garage till he bought from them and threatened to blow-up my house after I ran them off, the cop did nothing that time either
We had 5 break -ins a week later last year and one Sunday night. Not worth what our tax dollars anymore I live on the out skirts of Houston TX and yes I know crime is everywhere here but this is getting old. How is your area? How about you guys in Europe are Cops useless there to?

JC316
11-27-2007, 05:52 AM
Cops are pretty worthless here too, but not much goes in the small ass town I live in. There were a few thefts of high value stuff like 4 wheelers and what not, but after my gate mysteriously opened and I let my 135lbs rottweiler out after the asshats, the thefts stopped.

Probably kids stealing the stuff and my dog came close enough to scare the shit out of em.

strick94u
11-27-2007, 05:58 AM
Cops are pretty worthless here too, but not much goes in the small ass town I live in. There were a few thefts of high value stuff like 4 wheelers and what not, but after my gate mysteriously opened and I let my 135lbs rottweiler out after the asshats, the thefts stopped.

Probably kids stealing the stuff and my dog came close enough to scare the shit out of em.

Good dog!

Wile E
11-27-2007, 11:13 AM
I've lost 3 car stereos. I religiously removed face plates, but the three times I forgot, BAM! gone. Also lost a bunch of CD's once. Cops took a report, but nothing ever came of it. Not that I expected the stuff to turn up. Never had anyone try to break in, or try to force themselves into my door (home invasion). I imagine they wouldn't be too pleased if they did manage. A .45 slug will leave quite a mark. lol.

lemonadesoda
11-27-2007, 02:39 PM
I though America was supposed to be getting safer!

Or is it perhaps too much attention on "foreign terroristas" and not enough policing at home?

Perhaps one of the reasons that so many americans have supported all this illegal foreign activity is actually through a frustration at home, and people are just happy that SOMEONE is doing SOMETHING about SOMETHING. Unfortunately, wrong dog, wrong tree.

JrRacinFan
11-27-2007, 03:13 PM
No offense to you strick, but up in north here in Ohio. Insurance agencies will not cover stereo equipment included in the car if stolen. If it sounds like I am backing up what the cop has said, I am not.

The police here in ohio are very VERY strict in everything. Sure, they can be jerks at times,but everybody once in a while can be.

Irish_PXzyan
11-27-2007, 03:56 PM
Not much goes on here in Ireland, although in Limerick there are constant crimes...People have guns everywhere in Limerick..man..this aint the US...but heck..to many teens watching movies...or they just want to FEEL what its like to shoot someone dead. Pathetic.

Also. The worst thing I remmember that happened where I live is when a group of people were hanging by a wall in town..being peaceful and not even drinking..just all talking to each other. They were all like 17-19 years of age.

Anyway. There had been a crime around that area and the cops were on patrol..they saw all these teens hanging out and decided that these guys are involved. So the 2 coppers went over to them and told them where were you 5 mins ago..they said they were right here. The coppers then told them to put your hands behind your heads...they were asking..why?? what happened?? what did we do??? and one copper pushed one of the youths to the wall and hand cuffed him??

They were all cuffed..and brought to jail.

NOW...the worst is still the come.

There was an 18 year old female...she was brought in for a strip search..but the horrid thing is..you know...if a female is being searched..a man cant touch her right?? WRONG..not to these coppers...they told her to strip..she said no...then he shouted and told her to strip now..she said no again..the guy punched her in the face and said do it now.

She was scared so she really had no choice but to strip. She took her clothes off and the 2 coppers looked at each other with grins and stared at her body..wtf....then they told her to put her clothes back on.

??????

Not to mention..she is a very pretty lass...those bastards of coppers..I would ave beat them both to death..but heck...who do you think the judge would beleave?? coppers?? or the so called trouble maker?? unreal.

The cops here are total rubbish... my brother got beat up..we knew the guy...told the cops who he is..where he lives...and the cops done nothing..bravo!

TheMailMan78
11-27-2007, 04:15 PM
I love how everything turns into an "America Sucks" thread and we are so full of crime like its a rap video or something. When you guys say all that all we Americans hear is jealousy :)

Ripper3
11-27-2007, 04:16 PM
I've never had a problem with police here, but the one time my Dad got stopped, was a Friday night, going to pick up my Mum, I was in the car. He had accidentally turned on the fog lamps, and they thought we could be pissed, since, y'know, Friday night, central London.
They were so stupid that they simply asked my Dad whether he had been drinking, and believed him straight away, when he answered no, when they're meant to at least do a simple test to see how his stability is.

Apart from that, no problem with cops, but kids have started doing more and more stabbings and shootings around here. They see these fancy pants action films, thinking life is more glamorous when you kill someone, and it starts trouble. I don't know how video games can be blamed for it at times, when actually, some of the kids that turn into murderers watch films more violent than any sports games they ever play. Anyhow, that's off-topic.
I've only ever been mugged once, and I was young, and stupid. It was after school one day, when two kids were in the street, near school. A bit away from shops, but pretty much right in front of a pet shop. They asked me for some change, but I said, I didn't have any, which was a lie, but I didn't like them, so of course, I wasn't going to give them any. One of them then threatened to hit me with a plank of wood, and being an idiot, instead of walking into the store, I just let the other one rummage in my pocket. Thing is, the black kid that rummaged through my pockets is on my kill list. Top of the list in fact, and I just so happen to know where he lives, heheh. But seriously, he's getting his come-uppance by living pretty much in filth, the bastard.
I find life has a way of giving people what they deserve. I don't believe in a cosmic force really, or God, or anything as such, but I do believe the decisions and things you do in life end up shaping your future. He'll probably get arrested some day.

Yeah anyhow, there is one thing I think is great with cops from the US, they made be hard-asses at times, but they know how to treat people. In the UK, they can sometimes be real jerks, and other times, be total pussies, and wouldn't hurt a fly, when there's a knife-wielding maniac in front of them, they suddenly go limp, but in the US, they seem to have better training, and aren't as light-handed. I definately think that's one aspect that's very good.

HookeyStreet
11-27-2007, 04:25 PM
The old bill are very slack nowadays, but its not all their fault. The government basically ties thier hands behind their backs! In the old days, if you were caught robbing, the copper would give you a swift beating and you would think twice about doing it again. But now, the law cant do a thing!

The justice system as an whole is pathetic! For example, I know a guy that went to prisin for beating on his ex-girlfriend a few weeks ago and not turning up for his community service. For this they gave him a poxy 70 days yet he served only a week and was set free because the prisons are full :eek:

GLeN
11-27-2007, 05:15 PM
don't get me started about the shit that goes up here in Nortern ireland lol

anyways first time our house got broke in to,they took a vcr and a tv, the vcr had my pocahauntus movie in it WTF!!! :laugh: Anyways lets just say the thiefs wont be stealin or even walkin anymore ;)

thank god for paramilitaries :toast:

Irish_PXzyan
11-27-2007, 06:56 PM
haha very nice!

I watch alot of ROAD WARS and Derry CIty is always involved!!!! terrible :p

HookeyStreet
11-27-2007, 07:09 PM
don't get me started about the shit that goes up here in Nortern ireland lol

anyways first time our house got broke in to,they took a vcr and a tv, the vcr had my pocahauntus movie in it WTF!!! :laugh: Anyways lets just say the thiefs wont be stealin or even walkin anymore ;)

thank god for paramilitaries :toast:

Nice 1. Ive got nothing againdt the guys that do a bit of shoplifting, but to go in someones home and rob them.....they should be kneecapped!

I was burgled too (twice in 8 months)....not nice is it m8 :(

Irish_PXzyan
11-27-2007, 07:15 PM
really :O...did they take your system??? I wont mind that much as long as they left my system be :D

Jizzler
11-27-2007, 08:14 PM
Police are....

...crooked in The Florida Keys.
...pretty nice here in Geneva, FL (we have 3 small town country type cops here).

erocker
11-27-2007, 09:30 PM
Lol, I live in Milwaukee, this is the worst crime riddled shit-hole there is! Along Lake Michingan on the eastern side of town things are nice, but west of the freeway is all ghetto! It's like 75% of the city!

Kreij
11-27-2007, 09:33 PM
Lol, I live in Milwaukee, this is the worst crime riddled shit-hole there is! Along Lake Michingan on the eastern side of town things are nice, but west of the freeway is all ghetto! It's like 75% of the city!


Hey Erocker, head north. Up here there is 1/10 the crime and 10x the guns ;)

Jizzler
11-27-2007, 09:37 PM
And good cheese!!!!

My parents are from Madison.

3991vhtes
11-27-2007, 10:59 PM
Cops are worthless here aswell. We call the cops on asshats that ride their dirtbikes and fourwheelers wrecklessly up the road, and they say they'll do something about it. Do they do a damn thing? No.

zekrahminator
11-27-2007, 11:10 PM
Cops are worthless here aswell. We call the cops on asshats that ride their dirtbikes and fourwheelers wrecklessly up the road, and they say they'll do something about it. Do they do a damn thing? No.

You, sir, have never driven an ATV/Dirt Bike to your friend's house :p.

I tell you man, it's just like driving a car, 'cept it's $1,000 for a good one instead of $20,000 :p.

And it's a dirt-BIKE. I hopped on a dirt-bike once, started cruising at 15MPH, and was thrilled that I didn't have to pedal :D.

mdashoot
11-27-2007, 11:24 PM
I just had my stereo stolen about 3 weeks ago, it is a shitty feeling. Here they dont even come to your house, you have to go to the mpd and file a report. Luckily my insurance does cover it since they did $2,000 worth of damage getting it out. As for the home invasion thing, I always have a gun on me, I dont answer the door unless I know who it is, then if it is a potential intruder and they think your gone and break in, THEY GET A BIG SUPPRISE! for those of you that dont have guns, use a bat or knife and get a dog.

3991vhtes
11-27-2007, 11:37 PM
You, sir, have never driven an ATV/Dirt Bike to your friend's house :p.

I tell you man, it's just like driving a car, 'cept it's $1,000 for a good one instead of $20,000 :p.

And it's a dirt-BIKE. I hopped on a dirt-bike once, started cruising at 15MPH, and was thrilled that I didn't have to pedal :D.

I've never driven a dirtbike through the city part.

These ppl drive up here at like 45MPH on 2-stroke RACING bikes. Tell me that's not annoying?

I LOVE to go fast while I'm riding my Yamaha TT-R thru the woods not the neighborhood :D

mdashoot
11-27-2007, 11:40 PM
Cops are worthless here aswell. We call the cops on asshats that ride their dirtbikes and fourwheelers wrecklessly up the road, and they say they'll do something about it. Do they do a damn thing? No.

Heres a good story that kinda pertains to your prob.
when I use to live with my parents there was a guy that had a pumped up VW bug, his friend lived about two blocks down the street and when he was leaving he liked to burn rubber and haul ass down the street past our house. Well, we had a lot of kids that played around the neighborhood including my little sis, so one time my dad cought him as he went by and politely asked him to slow down by saying it and using the hand gesture to slow down, of course he didnt listen so the next time my dad heard him coming he grabbed a baseball and as hard as he could threw it at the side of his car, he didnt miss and put a huge dent in the door:roll:
The guy got out and said WTF! and my dad said "hey, I asked you nicely to slow it down, next time it will be your window". he never did it again!

PVTCaboose1337
11-27-2007, 11:40 PM
We have had break ins all around out house... Basically Texas = shoot on site. We have a dog which would deter you from breaking in. Cops response time on a typical day is about 5 - 6 hours. Thats pretty bad.

3991vhtes
11-27-2007, 11:50 PM
Heres a good story that kinda pertains to your prob.
when I use to live with my parents there was a guy that had a pumped up VW bug, his friend lived about two blocks down the street and when he was leaving he liked to burn rubber and haul ass down the street past our house. Well, we had a lot of kids that played around the neighborhood including my little sis, so one time my dad cought him as he went by and politely asked him to slow down by saying it and using the hand gesture to slow down, of course he didnt listen so the next time my dad heard him coming he grabbed a baseball and as hard as he could threw it at the side of his car, he didnt miss and put a huge dent in the door:roll:
The guy got out and said WTF! and my dad said "hey, I asked you nicely to slow it down, next time it will be your window". he never did it again!

:roll: I was thinking of doing something similar. Throw a baseball at a rider. LOL

mdashoot
11-27-2007, 11:59 PM
:roll: I was thinking of doing something similar. Throw a baseball at a rider. LOL
that could end up bad being that he's on a dirt bike, but oh well. just show him a sign that says "please slow down through here or we will make you slow down", I imagine the neighbors dont like it either so hopefully they will back you up.

strick94u
11-28-2007, 12:03 AM
We have had break ins all around out house... Basically Texas = shoot on site. We have a dog which would deter you from breaking in. Cops response time on a typical day is about 5 - 6 hours. Thats pretty bad.

Did you hear about the guy down here that called 911 and told them his neighbors house was being robbed and he was going to go over and shoot them? Well he did killed both of them while on the phone with 911 HaHa the DA may send this one to the grand Jury but its Harris County
They will no bill him. I don't know If I could kill a man over stuff but they come in the house BANG!:laugh:

Response time in Houston is about the same the first stereo they stole from my car they had me drive to them to report it.

imperialreign
11-28-2007, 12:20 AM
Cops here are pretty lethargic, especially with traffic stops.

This is how it breaks down in our city:

90% chance you won't get pulled over for speeding on main roads during daylight hours - especially during rush hour (the cops don't like having to pull through 4 lanes of one-way traffic to hunt you down) - even if you're doing 20 over. If you are driving a riced-out car (import or domestic) you are an immediate target, safest speed is 5 over for you. If you have a large, jacked-up truck you're less likely to get pulled over, too.

After evening rush hour, 5-10 over is the safest speed; anything over and you might get pulled, especially if it's towards the end of the month.

Yellow lights mean speed up here - you rarely get pulled over for being the tag along. Red lights mean - keep going until opposing traffic starts moving. Seriously. Our cops don't o shit about red light runners. Or people blocking the intersection for that matter. Or failure to yeild - that's our biggest problem in this area is the amount of people who don't yield right of way.

Californian rolls - HA! This area is known for the Virginian yield: when approcaching a stop sign, start to slow down, check to make sure there are no oncoming cars or cops, and keep going. A lot of accidents happen in neighborhoods because of this. It makes the Californian roll look like a full stop.

You won't get pulled over for cutting across 4 lanes of traffic to get into a turn lane, or any other type of reckless driving.

Oh, and the cops drive the same way as everyone else - so some example they're actually setting.

Interstate speeds are typically 25+ over the posted limit - although we have a ton of troopers who actually do their job.

I could keep going with our traffic problems, but it would take too long. Needless to say, our region ends up on the top 10 worst holiday traffic regions every year - except for this year, oddly . . .

and to top it off . . . crimes in the region has been on a continuous rise for the last 10 years, although because we're considered a "resort" community, that seems to stay under wraps.

3991vhtes
11-28-2007, 12:23 AM
that could end up bad being that he's on a dirt bike, but oh well. just show him a sign that says "please slow down through here or we will make you slow down", I imagine the neighbors dont like it either so hopefully they will back you up.

I've threatened to call the cops, they don't listen.

strick94u
11-28-2007, 12:29 AM
I've threatened to call the cops, they don't listen.

You know the thing I hate about 4 wheelers and fast bikes is that I don't want them splattering their brains on the pavement in front of my house,or running over kids and pets and then the splatter thing. When my son was born a kid down the block decided 12 am was the time to ride his dirt bike in front of my house you would be surprised how convincing standing in the street with a baseball bat can be.

Ketxxx
11-28-2007, 12:29 AM
Cops are useless. I took a friend to the local cophouse because she was getting threatening texts \ calls and being harassed in public and all the cops said is that they couldnt do anything until she had 5 or more threatening texts! wtf! I told them I was there and WITNESSED the harassment and half the phone calls, they just shut up and said there wasnt anything they could do etc etc etc. I wanted to punch them in the face. Later that week the harrassers became the harassees when I had a little "chat" with them. Since then it all seems to of settled down, fortunately.

imperialreign
11-28-2007, 12:30 AM
I've threatened to call the cops, they don't listen.

go buy yourself a couple of large cheap bags of qauarium gravel - preferably something greyish colored . . . then pour that gravel out on the road somewhere that the dude goes through . . .

strick94u
11-28-2007, 01:13 AM
Cops are useless. I took a friend to the local cophouse because she was getting threatening texts \ calls and being harassed in public and all the cops said is that they couldnt do anything until she had 5 or more threatening texts! wtf! I told them I was there and WITNESSED the harassment and half the phone calls, they just shut up and said there wasnt anything they could do etc etc etc. I wanted to punch them in the face. Later that week the harrassers became the harassees when I had a little "chat" with them. Since then it all seems to of settled down, fortunately.

Unfortunately this seems to be the only way more offten than not now days, but what kind of world would a world of street justice be? Its starting to be the old west here what metafor do you guys use?

mdashoot
11-28-2007, 02:33 AM
Cops here are pretty lethargic, especially with traffic stops.

This is how it breaks down in our city:

90% chance you won't get pulled over for speeding on main roads during daylight hours - especially during rush hour (the cops don't like having to pull through 4 lanes of one-way traffic to hunt you down) - even if you're doing 20 over. If you are driving a riced-out car (import or domestic) you are an immediate target, safest speed is 5 over for you. If you have a large, jacked-up truck you're less likely to get pulled over, too.

After evening rush hour, 5-10 over is the safest speed; anything over and you might get pulled, especially if it's towards the end of the month.

Yellow lights mean speed up here - you rarely get pulled over for being the tag along. Red lights mean - keep going until opposing traffic starts moving. Seriously. Our cops don't o shit about red light runners. Or people blocking the intersection for that matter. Or failure to yeild - that's our biggest problem in this area is the amount of people who don't yield right of way.

Californian rolls - HA! This area is known for the Virginian yield: when approcaching a stop sign, start to slow down, check to make sure there are no oncoming cars or cops, and keep going. A lot of accidents happen in neighborhoods because of this. It makes the Californian roll look like a full stop.

You won't get pulled over for cutting across 4 lanes of traffic to get into a turn lane, or any other type of reckless driving.

Oh, and the cops drive the same way as everyone else - so some example they're actually setting.

Interstate speeds are typically 25+ over the posted limit - although we have a ton of troopers who actually do their job.

I could keep going with our traffic problems, but it would take too long. Needless to say, our region ends up on the top 10 worst holiday traffic regions every year - except for this year, oddly . . .

and to top it off . . . crimes in the region has been on a continuous rise for the last 10 years, although because we're considered a "resort" community, that seems to stay under wraps.

Same here!

imperialreign
11-28-2007, 04:14 AM
I honestly think it's funny as hell that our cops immediately target ricers. The majority of traffic stops I see are with some frankensteined, aero-wing, ABS body kit on wheels.

It does make it a bit of a pain in the rear sometimes, though, I've been stopped 3x in the last 2 years for the exhaust on my car. By no means do I have a ricer - body is still factory, and the exhaust note sounds similar to a small block at idle (can't mistake that raspy v6 sound when going, though!). It irritates me every time, because I have to argue it out with the cop. Our noise ordinace laws are extremelly vague :shadedshu

strick94u
11-28-2007, 05:02 AM
I honestly think it's funny as hell that our cops immediately target ricers. The majority of traffic stops I see are with some frankensteined, aero-wing, ABS body kit on wheels.

It does make it a bit of a pain in the rear sometimes, though, I've been stopped 3x in the last 2 years for the exhaust on my car. By no means do I have a ricer - body is still factory, and the exhaust note sounds similar to a small block at idle (can't mistake that raspy v6 sound when going, though!). It irritates me every time, because I have to argue it out with the cop. Our noise ordinace laws are extremelly vague :shadedshu

Again they target a group that can afford to pay the fine and will pay the fine becuase they have jobs. Forbid they have to mis out on doughnut time to bust real criminals. Now busting kids for racing is one thing But to many times they pull over ricers knowing its a young person in the car and they can give a tickit and scare them and push them around I know this I was young once And see it still. Of course it is nice to be older and beable to say what I want to them without being shoved around now.

imperialreign
11-28-2007, 11:37 PM
Of course it is nice to be older and beable to say what I want to them without being shoved around now.


I agree.

I've come to the conclusion over the years, that the only reason people get so many tickets is because they're not aware of when they're within their own rights.

Our cops break local laws to catch people for traffic stops, I see it all the time. The few times I've been pulled over, I call them out on it and they usually just tell me to have a nice day.

trt740
11-29-2007, 01:01 AM
Well since I was a cop in the 21 largest metro in the United States and the 13th worst crime city in America you guys sound like a bunch of kids. The only reason crime is out of control in the USA is because the police are not allowed to do their jobs and are extremely underpayed. You criticize the police yet in your profession when was ten percent of your work force brutally murder while trying to keep other people safe? You remember the cop who doesn't repond to the guy ridding his dirt bike in your back yard or they guy who writes you a ticket but forget about the 150 to 300+ cops killed every year responding to bank robberies, domestic disputes , bomb threats and yes even terroist attacks, while other people run for cover, risking there lives and the future of their families (if killed) to protect you. I saw cops on a daily, yes daily basis risk their lives and save other people, criminals included, and it was never reported, but heaven forbid your a White Christian male cop because then no matter what you do your a Racist, a Nazi or crimminalized by the new media for anything you do and are wrong no matter what decision you make. The politicans run for cover when they should stand up, the good people are scared to stand up for whats right because they are called names and the liberals in this country let the rapist and crimminal run free. When I first took the police test 18 years ago 3000+ people showed up for 18 jobs the last police test 150 people showed up for 200 jobs. The job is so bad, so underpaid and so thankless no one wants to do it because we as citizens have fail are justice system. For every one bad cop there are atleast 300 good cops if not more who really try and are good people. Here is a fact for you, the average cop die at the age of 58 ( general population is 72 years of age ) from stress. The average number of cops that commit crime 1 % of the 750,000 cops in the USA. The average for the general population is 72% of 250 + million at one time or another in their life. The most dangerous professions on earth, usually are, in this order, utlitily worker is number one and numbers 2 thru 10 are all different types of cops , FBI, DEA, local Police, Prision guards etc... then 11 is US army infantry. If those aren't telling facts I don't know what are. We pay our judges, who put you in jail, 150,000 a years, our lawmakers 250,000 a year but the average US cop who can take your life or lose his on the spot, 40,000 a year. The problem with the police can be located by simply looking in the mirror.

trt740
11-29-2007, 01:12 AM
Again they target a group that can afford to pay the fine and will pay the fine becuase they have jobs. Forbid they have to mis out on doughnut time to bust real criminals. Now busting kids for racing is one thing But to many times they pull over ricers knowing its a young person in the car and they can give a tickit and scare them and push them around I know this I was young once And see it still. Of course it is nice to be older and beable to say what I want to them without being shoved around now.

This is one of the most Ignorant thing I have ever read. The cops I worked with hated writting tickets more than life itself and the number one thing they fought with the bosses over was that they didn't write enough of them. Most cops resist the politicans who pushed ticket writting as a safety measure and ended up on foot beats at night in bad areas as punishment for not writting them. The people who get written alot of ticket deserve them and are usually criminals. No cop enjoys writting a ticket to a good law abidding person, a drug dealer is a different story all together. Also sounds like some people here watch too much TV and usually the people who complain alot have a criminal past or are not law abidding people to begin with.(present company excluded)

imperialreign
11-29-2007, 01:21 AM
You make a lot of good points, trt. I'm not saying every cop out there is bad - hell, we've got a few friends of the family who're on the force - but, I think it also varies from one region to the next. No two regions share the same crime rates or problems, if they did it would make addressing issues a lot easier as a whole.

But, here where I live, late in the evening, I'll see 4-5 squad cars sitting bumper to bumper in a turn lane, with all their lights running, and 6-8 officers standing around talking. Drive back by 15min later, they're all still there. :wtf:

The main road through our city is 8 lanes total - 4 in either direction. Posted speed limit is 45mph. It's not unusual to see a cop pass you doing at least 60+, with no lights or siren running - during the day none-the-less. You can't tell me he's on call, as our local laws require them to at-the-very-least run their lights. :wtf:

Speaking of running lights, our officers are also notorious for flicking their lights on to make it through a busy intersection, and turn them off immediately once on the other side . . .

I've also seen our cops continue through a busy, major intersection when the traffic lights are out. 16 intersecting lanes is VERY dangerous for anyone, even a cop out there directing traffic (it actually takes 2-3 for our major intersections); but blazing by it like there's nothing wrong?


Our crime rates are also fairly low for a city of our size, with the majority of crimes being that of property crimes more so than violent crimes. Our summer/tourist season is actually when the majority of crimes in this city occur. We're not a year-round vacation resort like some cities on the east coast are.

trt740
11-29-2007, 02:28 AM
Well since I was a cop in the 21 largest metro in the United States and the 13th worst crime city in America you guys sound like a bunch of kids. The only reason crime is out of control in the USA is because the police are not allowed to do their jobs and are extremely underpayed. You criticize the police yet in your profession when was ten percent of your work force brutally murder while trying to keep other people safe? You remember the cop who doesn't repond to the guy ridding his dirt bike in your back yard or they guy who writes you a ticket but forget about the 150 to 300+ cops killed every year responding to bank robberies, domestic disputes , bomb threats and yes even terroist attacks, while other people run for cover, risking there lives and the future of their families (if killed) to protect you. I saw cops on a daily, yes daily basis risk their lives and save other people, criminals included, and it was never reported, but heaven forbid your a White Christian male cop because then no matter what you do your a Racist, a Nazi or crimminalized by the new media for anything you do and are wrong no matter what decision you make. The politicans run for cover when they should stand up, the good people are scared to stand up for whats right because they are called names and the liberals in this country let the rapist and crimminal run free. When I first took the police test 18 years ago 3000+ people showed up for 18 jobs the last police test 150 people showed up for 200 jobs. The job is so bad, so underpaid and so thankless no one wants to do it because we as citizens have fail are justice system. For every one bad cop there are atleast 300 good cops if not more who really try and are good people. Here is a fact for you, the average cop die at the age of 58 ( general population is 72 years of age ) from stress. The average number of cops that commit crime 1 % of the 750,000 cops in the USA. The average for the general population is 72% of 250 + million at one time or another in their life. The most dangerous professions on earth, usually are, in this order, utlitily worker is number one and numbers 2 thru 10 are all different types of cops , FBI, DEA, local Police, Prision guards etc... then 11 is US army infantry. If those aren't telling facts I don't know what are. We pay our judges, who put you in jail, 150,000 a years, our lawmakers 250,000 a year but the average US cop who can take your life or lose his on the spot, 40,000 a year. The problem with the police can be located by simply looking in the mirror.

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trt740
11-29-2007, 02:37 AM
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Honoring Officers Killed in the Year 2007

Trooper Calvin W. Jenks
Tennessee Highway Patrol, TN
EOW: Saturday, January 6, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Sheriff Rahamy Mitchell
Fannin County Sheriff's Office, TX
EOW: Sunday, January 7, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Police Officer Tyron Franklin
Paterson Police Department, NJ
EOW: Sunday, January 7, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Detective Troy Lamont Chesley Sr.
Baltimore City Police Department, MD
EOW: Tuesday, January 9, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Sergeant James H. (Heath) Hardin
Hope Mills Police Department, NC
EOW: Thursday, January 11, 2007
Cause of Death: Heart attack
Sergeant Nicholas G. Sottile
Florida Highway Patrol, FL
EOW: Friday, January 12, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Chief of Police Ernest V. Mendoza
Needville Independent School District Poli..., TX
EOW: Friday, January 19, 2007
Cause of Death: Vehicular assault
Trooper Jose A. Rosado
New York State Police, NY
EOW: Wednesday, January 24, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Deputy Sheriff Alan Inzer
Calcasieu Parish Sheriff's Office, LA
EOW: Thursday, January 25, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Sheriff Harold Michael (Mike) Altman
Jackson County Sheriff's Department, FL
EOW: Tuesday, January 30, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Police Officer Shawn Joshua Dean (Josh) Williams
Old Fort Police Department, NC
EOW: Thursday, February 1, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Police Officer Ariel Anton Frett
Virgin Islands Police Department, VI
EOW: Thursday, February 8, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Sheriff Daniel Browne-Sanchez
Hawaii Department of Public Safety - Sheri..., HI
EOW: Saturday, February 10, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Police Officer Sean Wissink
Des Moines Police Department, IA
EOW: Sunday, February 11, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Deputy Sheriff Michael Estes
Walla Walla County Sheriff's Office, WA
EOW: Wednesday, February 14, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Lieutenant Dexter Holcomb
Oxford Police Department, AL
EOW: Friday, February 16, 2007
Cause of Death: Struck by vehicle
Police Officer Charles J. Callemyn
Durham Police Department, NC
EOW: Saturday, February 17, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Police Officer Anthony Jon Holly
Glendale Police Department, AZ
EOW: Monday, February 19, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Patrolman First Class Brian Coleman
Alexandria Police Department, LA
EOW: Wednesday, February 21, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Police Officer Stephen R. Jerabek
St. Louis Police Department, MO
EOW: Wednesday, February 21, 2007
Cause of Death: Heart attack
Detective Keith Dressel
Toledo Police Department, OH
EOW: Wednesday, February 21, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Sergeant Howard J. Plouff
Winston-Salem Police Department, NC
EOW: Friday, February 23, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Sheriff Kevin Carper
Spartanburg County Sheriff's Office, SC
EOW: Tuesday, February 27, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Sergeant Tommaso Popolizio
Newark Police Department, NJ
EOW: Saturday, March 3, 2007
Cause of Death: Vehicle pursuit
Deputy Phillip Michael Deese
Dorchester County Sheriff's Department, SC
EOW: Friday, March 9, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Auxiliary Police Officer Yevgeniy (Eugene) Marshalik
New York City Police Department - Auxiliar..., NY
EOW: Wednesday, March 14, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Auxiliary Police Officer Nicholas T. Pekearo
New York City Police Department - Auxiliar..., NY
EOW: Wednesday, March 14, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Trooper Todd Holmes
Texas Department of Public Safety - Texas ..., TX
EOW: Wednesday, March 14, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Border Patrol Agent Ramon Nevarez Jr.
United States Department of Homeland Secur..., US
EOW: Thursday, March 15, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Border Patrol Agent David Tourscher
United States Department of Homeland Secur..., US
EOW: Friday, March 16, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Game Warden Justin Hurst
Texas Parks and Wildlife Department - Law ..., TX
EOW: Saturday, March 17, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Sheriff Manuel Villegas
Riverside County Sheriff's Department, CA
EOW: Monday, March 19, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Deputy Sheriff Eric Sikes
Richmond County Sheriff's Office, GA
EOW: Wednesday, March 21, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Senior Corporal Mark Timothy Nix
Dallas Police Department, TX
EOW: Friday, March 23, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Officer Daniel C. Martinez
Fort Smith Police Department, AR
EOW: Friday, March 23, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Police Officer Lonnie Wells
Moncks Corner Police Department, SC
EOW: Sunday, March 25, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Petty Officer Ronald Gill
United States Coast Guard Office of Law En..., US
EOW: Sunday, March 25, 2007
Cause of Death: Boating accident
Police Officer Doug Byrne
Aurora Police Department, CO
EOW: Monday, March 26, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Corporal Marcus Stiles
Moncks Corner Police Department, SC
EOW: Monday, March 26, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Police Officer Sean Clark
Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department, NC
EOW: Sunday, April 1, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Police Officer Jeff Shelton
Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police Department, NC
EOW: Sunday, April 1, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Constable Ronnie K. Jones
Barren County District Two Constable's Office, KY
EOW: Monday, April 2, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Deputy Sheriff Jason Lee Saunders
Campbell County Sheriff's Office, VA
EOW: Tuesday, April 3, 2007
Cause of Death: Vehicle pursuit
Lieutenant Corey Dahlem
Gainesville Police Department, FL
EOW: Wednesday, April 4, 2007
Cause of Death: Vehicular assault
Special Agent Barry Lee Bush
United States Department of Justice - Fede..., US
EOW: Thursday, April 5, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire (Accidental)
Police Officer Thomas Devlin
Boston College Police Department, MA
EOW: Friday, April 6, 2007
Cause of Death: Exposure to toxins
Police Officer Wayne Pitt
Metropolitan Police Department, DC
EOW: Tuesday, April 10, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Police Officer Robert Winget
Ripon Police Department, CA
EOW: Tuesday, April 10, 2007
Cause of Death: Accidental
Police Officer Thomas Lindsey
Utica Police Department, NY
EOW: Thursday, April 12, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Lieutenant Delmar Teagan
Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Com..., FL
EOW: Friday, April 13, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Police Officer Andrew Esparza
Irving Police Department, TX
EOW: Friday, April 13, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Police Officer Jason Campbell
Greenville Police Department, NC
EOW: Saturday, April 14, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Deputy Sheriff Philip Anthony Rodriguez
Mohave County Sheriff's Office, AZ
EOW: Saturday, April 21, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Corporal Nick Samuel Polizzotto
South Bend Police Department, IN
EOW: Tuesday, April 24, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Police Officer Luke T. Hoffman
Montgomery County Police Department, MD
EOW: Wednesday, April 25, 2007
Cause of Death: Struck by vehicle
Trooper David Brinkerhoff
New York State Police, NY
EOW: Wednesday, April 25, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire (Accidental)
Air Interdiction Agent Clinton B. Thrasher
United States Department of Homeland Secur..., US
EOW: Wednesday, April 25, 2007
Cause of Death: Aircraft accident
Police Officer Lisa Beaulieu
Beaumont Police Department, TX
EOW: Friday, April 27, 2007
Cause of Death: Vehicular assault
Sergeant Eric Smith
Coffee County Sheriff's Department, GA
EOW: Tuesday, May 1, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Deputy Sheriff Raul V. Gama
Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, CA
EOW: Tuesday, May 1, 2007
Cause of Death: Vehicular assault
Police Officer Alan Christopher Silver
Rocky Mount Police Department, NC
EOW: Wednesday, May 2, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Police Officer David Young
Florence Police Department, AL
EOW: Thursday, May 3, 2007
Cause of Death: Motorcycle accident
Chief Investigator Alex Roy (Al) Suarez Sr.
Boston Police Department, GA
EOW: Friday, May 4, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire (Accidental)
Police Officer Robert (Tim) Buckman
Macksville Police Department, KS
EOW: Tuesday, May 8, 2007
Cause of Death: Weather/Natural disaster
Corporal Bruce McKay
Franconia Police Department, NH
EOW: Friday, May 11, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Border Patrol Agent Richard Goldstein
United States Department of Homeland Secur..., US
EOW: Friday, May 11, 2007
Cause of Death: Drowned
Agent Rafael Santana-Cruz
Puerto Rico Police Department, PR
EOW: Sunday, May 13, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Police Officer William (Nichie) Preslar
Lakewood Police Department, NJ
EOW: Monday, May 14, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
State Constable Robert Lee Bailey
South Carolina State Constable, SC
EOW: Monday, May 14, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Sheriff Frank Fabiano Jr.
Kenosha County Sheriff's Department, WI
EOW: Wednesday, May 16, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Sheriff Paul Steven Habelt
Henderson County Sheriff's Department, TX
EOW: Thursday, May 17, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Sheriff Tony Price Ogburn
Henderson County Sheriff's Department, TX
EOW: Thursday, May 17, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Police Officer Lee Newbill
Moscow Police Department, ID
EOW: Saturday, May 19, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Sheriff Marvin Jerome Scarlett
Henry County Sheriff's Office, GA
EOW: Sunday, May 20, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Officer Harry Joseph Coelho
Honolulu Police Department, HI
EOW: Sunday, May 20, 2007
Cause of Death: Heart attack
Probation Officer David Poling
Gallipolis Municipal Court, OH
EOW: Tuesday, May 22, 2007
Cause of Death: Drowned
Agent José Fontañez-Correa
Puerto Rico Police Department, PR
EOW: Tuesday, May 22, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Air Interdiction Agent Robert Smith
United States Department of Homeland Secur..., US
EOW: Tuesday, May 22, 2007
Cause of Death: Aircraft accident
Officer Jason West
Cleveland Heights Police Department, OH
EOW: Saturday, May 26, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Game Warden Teyran (Ty) Patterson
Texas Parks and Wildlife Department - Law ..., TX
EOW: Wednesday, May 30, 2007
Cause of Death: Drowned
Officer Jeffrey Howard (Jeff) McCoy
Abilene Police Department, TX
EOW: Tuesday, June 5, 2007
Cause of Death: Vehicular assault
Special Agent Ryan A. Balmer
United States Air Force Office of Special ..., US
EOW: Tuesday, June 5, 2007
Cause of Death: Bomb
Special Agent Matthew Joseph Kuglics
United States Air Force Office of Special ..., US
EOW: Tuesday, June 5, 2007
Cause of Death: Bomb
Deputy First Class Hilery A. Mayo Jr.
St. Tammany Parish Sheriff's Office, LA
EOW: Saturday, June 9, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Officer Robert Franklin Dickey
California Highway Patrol, CA
EOW: Sunday, June 10, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Chief of Police Randy Lacy
Clay City Police Department, KY
EOW: Wednesday, June 13, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Patrolman Christopher Mirabal
New Mexico State Police, NM
EOW: Wednesday, June 13, 2007
Cause of Death: Motorcycle accident
Sergeant Linden (Beau) Raimer
St. Tammany Parish Sheriff's Office, LA
EOW: Wednesday, June 13, 2007
Cause of Death: Weather/Natural disaster
Deputy Kelly James Fredinburg
Marion County Sheriff's Office, OR
EOW: Saturday, June 16, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Officer Frank C. Denzinger
Floyd County Sheriff's Office, IN
EOW: Monday, June 18, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Corporal Scott Wheeler
Howard County Police Department, MD
EOW: Monday, June 18, 2007
Cause of Death: Struck by vehicle
Sergeant Justin Thompson
Lincoln County Sheriff's Office, WV
EOW: Wednesday, June 20, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Corrections Officer Stephen Anderson
Utah Department of Corrections, UT
EOW: Monday, June 25, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Sheriff Charles Cook
Buchanan County Sheriff's Department, MO
EOW: Thursday, June 28, 2007
Cause of Death: Vehicle pursuit
Deputy Sheriff Michael Page
Bowie County Sheriff's Department, TX
EOW: Saturday, June 30, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Police Officer Adam Joseph Menuez
Fallon Paiute-Shoshone Tribal Police Depar..., TR
EOW: Wednesday, July 4, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Master Trooper David Edward Rich
Indiana State Police, IN
EOW: Thursday, July 5, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Sheriff Joshua Norris
Jefferson Parish Sheriff's Office, LA
EOW: Thursday, July 5, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Police Officer Dayle Weston (Wes) Hardy
Plano Police Department, TX
EOW: Saturday, July 7, 2007
Cause of Death: Motorcycle accident
Police Officer Robert (Bobby) Kozminski
Grand Rapids Police Department, MI
EOW: Sunday, July 8, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Sergeant Karl Strohsal
Longwood Police Department, FL
EOW: Saturday, July 14, 2007
Cause of Death: Struck by vehicle
Police Officer Russel Timoshenko
New York City Police Department, NY
EOW: Saturday, July 14, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Sheriff William John Walters
Kemper County Sheriff's Department, MS
EOW: Sunday, July 15, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Chief Deputy Tommy Martin
Douglas County Sheriff's Department, IL
EOW: Tuesday, July 17, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Border Patrol Agent Eric N. Cabral
United States Department of Homeland Secur..., US
EOW: Thursday, July 26, 2007
Cause of Death: Heat exhaustion
Police Officer George Valentino Cortez Jr.
Phoenix Police Department, AZ
EOW: Friday, July 27, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Officer Douglas Scott Russell
California Highway Patrol, CA
EOW: Tuesday, July 31, 2007
Cause of Death: Vehicular assault
Special Agent Kimberly D. Place
United States Department of Justice - Bure..., US
EOW: Wednesday, August 1, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Special Deputy Stephen Bollinger
Franklin County Sheriff's Department, OH
EOW: Sunday, August 5, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Chief of Police David Gerald Richard
Port Barre Police Department, LA
EOW: Sunday, August 5, 2007
Cause of Death: Vehicle pursuit
Detective John Smith
Bastrop Police Department, LA
EOW: Friday, August 10, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Detective Charles (Chuck) Wilson
Bastrop Police Department, LA
EOW: Friday, August 10, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Sergeant Christopher Reyka
Broward County Sheriff's Office, FL
EOW: Friday, August 10, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Patrolman Benjamin (BJ) Wilcher Jr.
Gary Police Department, IN
EOW: Sunday, August 12, 2007
Cause of Death: Vehicle pursuit
Deputy Chief George (Bill) Stanford
Cheyenne Police Department, WY
EOW: Monday, August 13, 2007
Cause of Death: Heart attack
Sergeant Ron Harrison
Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office, FL
EOW: Wednesday, August 15, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Police Officer Norvelle Brown
St. Louis Police Department, MO
EOW: Wednesday, August 15, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Detective Corporal Kenneth Armstrong
Montgomery Police Department, AL
EOW: Friday, August 17, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Policeman Walter T. Barclay Jr.
Philadelphia Police Department, PA
EOW: Sunday, August 19, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Reserve Deputy Joe Bill Galloway
Holmes County Sheriff's Office, FL
EOW: Monday, August 20, 2007
Cause of Death: Vehicle pursuit
Trooper Jack P. Holland II
Ohio State Highway Patrol, OH
EOW: Tuesday, August 21, 2007
Cause of Death: Animal related
Officer Germaine Casey
Rio Rancho Police Department, NM
EOW: Monday, August 27, 2007
Cause of Death: Motorcycle accident
Corporal John (Scott) Gardner
Odessa Police Department, TX
EOW: Saturday, September 8, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Corporal Arlie Jones
Odessa Police Department, TX
EOW: Saturday, September 8, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Corporal Abel Marquez
Odessa Police Department, TX
EOW: Wednesday, September 12, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Police Officer Jose Somohano
Miami-Dade Police Department, FL
EOW: Thursday, September 13, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Police Officer David Camden
Temple Police Department, TX
EOW: Friday, September 14, 2007
Cause of Death: Motorcycle accident
Police Officer Nicki James (Nick) Erfle
Phoenix Police Department, AZ
EOW: Tuesday, September 18, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Marshal Bucky E. Burke
United States Department of Justice - Mars..., US
EOW: Tuesday, September 18, 2007
Cause of Death: Heart attack
Detective Mario Moreno
San Antonio Police Department, TX
EOW: Friday, September 21, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Corrections Officer Susan Louise Canfield
Texas Department of Criminal Justice, TX
EOW: Monday, September 24, 2007
Cause of Death: Vehicular assault
Air Interdiction Agent Julio E. Baray
United States Department of Homeland Secur..., US
EOW: Monday, September 24, 2007
Cause of Death: Aircraft accident
Police Officer Daniel Talbot
Revere Police Department, MA
EOW: Saturday, September 29, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Constable Jason Norling
Harris County Constable's Office - Precinct 5, TX
EOW: Monday, October 1, 2007
Cause of Death: Struck by vehicle
Police Officer Alfred L. Gordon Sr.
Orlando Police Department, FL
EOW: Thursday, October 4, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Sheriff Gary D. McCormack
Greene County Sheriff's Department, MO
EOW: Saturday, October 6, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Trooper David A. Graham
Montana Highway Patrol, MT
EOW: Tuesday, October 9, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Police Officer George Brentar
Euclid Police Department, OH
EOW: Wednesday, October 10, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Sergeant Gary Wayne Henderson
Shelbyville Police Department, IN
EOW: Wednesday, October 10, 2007
Cause of Death: Accidental
Trooper Zachariah Templeton
Colorado State Patrol, CO
EOW: Friday, October 12, 2007
Cause of Death: Struck by vehicle
Officer Scott Eric Bell
Jacksonville Sheriff's Office, FL
EOW: Friday, October 12, 2007
Cause of Death: Vehicular assault
Officer Sergio Carrera
Rialto Police Department, CA
EOW: Thursday, October 18, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Deputy Sheriff Jerry Wayne Hudgins
Coahoma County Sheriff's Department, MS
EOW: Friday, October 19, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Investigator Dale Clint Sherrill
Marion County Sheriff's Department, TX
EOW: Friday, October 19, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Deputy Sheriff Jason Edward Mooney
Stafford County Sheriff's Office, VA
EOW: Friday, October 19, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Sergeant Tate Allan Lynch
Casa Grande Police Department, AZ
EOW: Thursday, October 25, 2007
Cause of Death: Fall
Wildlife Officer Michelle A. Lawless
Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Com..., FL
EOW: Saturday, October 27, 2007
Cause of Death: Accidental
Trooper Brian McMillen
Illinois State Police, IL
EOW: Sunday, October 28, 2007
Cause of Death: Vehicular assault
Chief of Police Randy Wells
Forest Hills Police Department, KY
EOW: Monday, October 29, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Police Officer Adrian Castro Cordova
Calexico Police Department, CA
EOW: Thursday, November 1, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Police Officer Charles Cassidy
Philadelphia Police Department, PA
EOW: Thursday, November 1, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Special Agent Thomas A. Crowell
United States Air Force Office of Special ..., US
EOW: Thursday, November 1, 2007
Cause of Death: Bomb
Special Agent Nathan J. Schuldheiss
United States Air Force Office of Special ..., US
EOW: Thursday, November 1, 2007
Cause of Death: Bomb
Special Agent David A. Wieger
United States Air Force Office of Special ..., US
EOW: Thursday, November 1, 2007
Cause of Death: Bomb
Trooper Brian W. Linn
West Virginia State Police, WV
EOW: Friday, November 2, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Deputy Sheriff Paul Rein
Broward County Sheriff's Office, FL
EOW: Wednesday, November 7, 2007
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Police Officer Mark Bedard
Minneapolis Park Police Department, MN
EOW: Friday, November 9, 2007
Cause of Death: Struck by vehicle
Officer John Miller
California Highway Patrol, CA
EOW: Friday, November 16, 2007
Cause of Death: Automobile accident
Deputy Sheriff Donta Manuel
Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office, FL
EOW: Wednesday, November 28, 2007
Cause of Death: Struck by vehicle
Deputy Sheriff Jonathan Wallace
Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office, FL
EOW: Wednesday, November 28, 2007
Cause of Death: Struck by vehicle





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Total Line of Duty Deaths: 160
Accidental: 3
Aircraft accident: 3
Animal related: 1
Automobile accident: 43
Boating accident: 1
Bomb: 5
Drowned: 3
Exposure to toxins: 1
Fall: 1
Gunfire: 59
Gunfire (Accidental): 3
Heart attack: 5
Heat exhaustion: 1
Motorcycle accident: 5
Struck by vehicle: 9
Vehicle pursuit: 6
Vehicular assault: 9
Weather/Natural disaster: 2


By Month:
January: 10
February: 13
March: 16
April: 19
May: 22
June: 15
July: 12
August: 15
September: 11
October: 16
November: 11


By State:
Alabama: 3
Arizona: 5
Arkansas: 1
California: 8
Colorado: 2
District of Columbia: 1
Florida: 15
Georgia: 4
Hawaii: 2
Idaho: 1
Illinois: 2
Indiana: 5
Iowa: 1
Kansas: 1
Kentucky: 3
Louisiana: 8
Maryland: 3
Massachusetts: 2
Michigan: 1
Minnesota: 1
Mississippi: 2
Missouri: 4
Montana: 1
New Hampshire: 1
New Jersey: 3
New Mexico: 2
New York: 6
North Carolina: 8
Ohio: 6
Oregon: 1
Pennsylvania: 2
Puerto Rico: 2
South Carolina: 5
Tennessee: 1
Texas: 21
Tribal Police: 1
U.S. Government: 16
Utah: 1
Virgin Islands: 1
Virginia: 2
Washington: 1
West Virginia: 2
Wisconsin: 1
Wyoming: 1


Average tour: 10 years, 5 months

Average age: 38

By Gender:
Female: 4
Male: 156



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here is the link with their badges and how they were killed in more detail

http://www.odmp.org/year.php

Snipe343
01-04-2008, 04:49 AM
Just play GTA and get the anger out there XD :roll:

JrRacinFan
01-04-2008, 04:55 AM
Holy thread resurrection Snipe! LOL

strick94u
01-04-2008, 06:45 AM
This is one of the most Ignorant thing I have ever read. The cops I worked with hated writting tickets more than life itself and the number one thing they fought with the bosses over was that they didn't write enough of them. Most cops resist the politicans who pushed ticket writting as a safety measure and ended up on foot beats at night in bad areas as punishment for not writting them. The people who get written alot of ticket deserve them and are usually criminals. No cop enjoys writting a ticket to a good law abidding person, a drug dealer is a different story all together. Also sounds like some people here watch too much TV and usually the people who complain alot have a criminal past or are not law abidding people to begin with.(present company excluded)

In 1983 I was pulled over and attacked by 2 of your law abiding police officers 12 more showed up and had a good time just beating the crap out of me. And since they could not find anything to justify the beating so they charged me with aggravated assault on police officers. Fact is I never hit a single cop that night a jury of 12 found me not guilty, what was I pulled over for? Being young! 3 times a week I see cops giving tickets at 6 am on a Farm market road here in Houston why 6 am trt? Could it be they are targeting working people going to work? Recently during a rash of crime in my subdivision we found our paid extra for being out here cop writing tickets at 5 pm when asked why he was out here at 5 pm when the crimes are going on after mid night we were told by the officer his boss was ordering the shift change and traffic control was to be the priority. It’s a working class neighborhood see we are being targeted by the bad guys at night and the good guys during the day. I am a full grown old man 47 last 2 tickets I got one was given to me by a cop I had been behind for 2 miles I could see he was a cop by the lights on his roof and signs on his trunk he goes to turn and then hits his lights said I was doing 60 in a 35 I know how fast I was going and I am sure he did also first off I was driving my 1992 GEO METRO 60 mph is about 80% of its top speed. It was a holiday weekend they were making there quota. Last ticket I changed lanes into a lane a cop was changing into at the same time, something that happens to everyone right? Well this guy was pissed he did the same thing I did yet since he had the badge the gun and the lights I get the ticket. So don't tell me about how tough it is on the police and how under paid they are there are way more cops than bars why aren’t they pulling over DWI's it should be easy since they aren’t stopping car thefts they could park outside the bars at 2 am right? No the 6am tickets don’t require near as much paper work or having to house a drunk who can't pay his fines anyway. As far as fallen cops sorry part of the job description. Brave guy’s hell I would not strap on a gun people shot at you if you do, and you may have to kill someone that can't be easy. But a big Part of being a cop is the fact that you are a bit of a control freak to want to do that kind of job and a lot of cops get the big head with it. But with it you should know we are going to make threads like this and vent when things happen like the cop telling me if I did not have nice thing they wouldn’t get stolen. Or beating the crap out of me. Now tell me what do you think about mechanics? How about lawyers? Doctors? Exotic Dancers?? see where I am going so I got my ass kicked once I don't dwell on it My buddy Terry is a cop I'm glad to he is a great person I can't very well Bitch at him like this so I started this thread :D
I just have not had an exotic dancer piss me off lately and I teach Mechanics which means I am one and I know how people say bad stuff about us, comes with the job right. And yes I am ignorant about what goes on in police work but this is how I feel about it sometimes ok,and I did not know you were "THE MAN" your not going to look in the trunk are you?

trt740
01-04-2008, 11:04 AM
In 1983 I was pulled over and attacked by 2 of your law abiding police officers 12 more showed up and had a good time just beating the crap out of me. And since they could not find anything to justify the beating so they charged me with aggravated assault on police officers. Fact is I never hit a single cop that night a jury of 12 found me not guilty, what was I pulled over for? Being young! 3 times a week I see cops giving tickets at 6 am on a Farm market road here in Houston why 6 am trt? Could it be they are targeting working people going to work? Recently during a rash of crime in my subdivision we found our paid extra for being out here cop writing tickets at 5 pm when asked why he was out here at 5 pm when the crimes are going on after mid night we were told by the officer his boss was ordering the shift change and traffic control was to be the priority. It’s a working class neighborhood see we are being targeted by the bad guys at night and the good guys during the day. I am a full grown old man 47 last 2 tickets I got one was given to me by a cop I had been behind for 2 miles I could see he was a cop by the lights on his roof and signs on his trunk he goes to turn and then hits his lights said I was doing 60 in a 35 I know how fast I was going and I am sure he did also first off I was driving my 1992 GEO METRO 60 mph is about 80% of its top speed. It was a holiday weekend they were making there quota. Last ticket I changed lanes into a lane a cop was changing into at the same time, something that happens to everyone right? Well this guy was pissed he did the same thing I did yet since he had the badge the gun and the lights I get the ticket. So don't tell me about how tough it is on the police and how under paid they are there are way more cops than bars why aren’t they pulling over DWI's it should be easy since they aren’t stopping car thefts they could park outside the bars at 2 am right? No the 6am tickets don’t require near as much paper work or having to house a drunk who can't pay his fines anyway. As far as fallen cops sorry part of the job description. Brave guy’s hell I would not strap on a gun people shot at you if you do, and you may have to kill someone that can't be easy. But a big Part of being a cop is the fact that you are a bit of a control freak to want to do that kind of job and a lot of cops get the big head with it. But with it you should know we are going to make threads like this and vent when things happen like the cop telling me if I did not have nice thing they wouldn’t get stolen. Or beating the crap out of me. Now tell me what do you think about mechanics? How about lawyers? Doctors? Exotic Dancers?? see where I am going so I got my ass kicked once I don't dwell on it My buddy Terry is a cop I'm glad to he is a great person I can't very well Bitch at him like this so I started this thread :D
I just have not had an exotic dancer piss me off lately and I teach Mechanics which means I am one and I know how people say bad stuff about us, comes with the job right. And yes I am ignorant about what goes on in police work but this is how I feel about it sometimes ok,and I did not know you were "THE MAN" your not going to look in the trunk are you?


Well strange you got throught an arraignment (a judge reviewed the arrest and finding probable cause for you to be arrested, He agreeded with the cops) a Grand Jury of your peers reviewed the case( the people who live in your town agreed with the cops at the indictment returning a true bill ) then you went to trial and were found not guilty, and for some reason you feel that means you didn't do it. No that just means all you needed was 1 percent doubt ( or one jury member of 12 to find doubt)and you weren't convicted. The cops on the other hand need 100 percent no doubt ( or all 12 jury members to agree no doubt existed and convict)(a very high standard). Sounds to me like you just got away with it. This whole statement was spoken like OJ could have written it. Sounds to me like you should feel lucky you aren't in prison and need to be quiet. In addition to this if you get stopped at 2am and aren't drunk then you have nothing to fear do you? Also at 5am in the morning more accidents occur then, than any other time of the day, because it is dark still, people are tired, putting on makeup while driving, reading the newspaper while driving or just didn't leave early enough and are in a rush to get to work and are driving too fast. So it would stand to reason you would enforce more then wouldn't it. As for the 2am thing most drunks close the bars and are on the streets driving drunk then so wouldn't it stand to reason thats the time you would increase traffic enforcement for DUI's and since a bar is the place most people drink and drive from would that be the area you would concentrate on?

Wile E
01-04-2008, 11:06 AM
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xXxJiggabobxXx
01-04-2008, 11:17 AM
I got one word.

Glasgow.

ROFL! They have like 200+ gangs there, you get stabbed when you go to the shops :roll:

AphexDreamer
01-04-2008, 12:24 PM
Well a few months back my car was broken into I almost didn't call the police because I know they really won't do much for stereo theft, but since my stuff is all marked and numbered better call them anyway. I did not think it could get any worse when the officer
Pretty much blamed me for having a stereo worth stealing. Sorry I forced you into stealing all that nice stuff Mr. Crack head. What makes it worse Is the stealing keeps getting worse in the area and all the cops do is show up at 4 in the afternoon and write tickets to people coming home from work. What right do I have to complain about these idiots well last year I turned in a suspect in a rape case, the guy was going door to door asking and compiling a list of teenagers I felt something funny was going on and he matched a description the news put out. I left found a cop brought him where the guy The cop said yes he was real close to what was on the news yet did not even ask him for I.D 2 weeks later they busted him after a mother came home and found him on top of a 14 year old girl he had beat her pretty bad. I get summand to court to I.D him which I didn't mind but since I was not home when they came to summon me I get a warning that if I don't comply I could go to jail???? Anyway he pleaded out. Where is this going? well last week we had these people selling stuff door to door in an overly aggressive manner scared my 75 year old neighbor lady half to death the cop was already here from a half dozen calls about them and basically told us until they commit a crime he could not do a thing, we have an ordinance in place no solicitation last year member from same company held one old man against his garage till he bought from them and threatened to blow-up my house after I ran them off, the cop did nothing that time either
We had 5 break -ins a week later last year and one Sunday night. Not worth what our tax dollars anymore I live on the out skirts of Houston TX and yes I know crime is everywhere here but this is getting old. How is your area? How about you guys in Europe are Cops useless there to?

Dude, I live in Houston Texas and I agree with you, I have no idea what is up with them.

Just recently, tons of cops are around and all they do is sit around in a neighborhood and wait for some one to go 10 miles over the speed limit and give them tickets, I know it has happed to three diffrent people that I know lol.

The wrost thing about this, is that most people will sit back and take the shit that these cops give them...

trt740
01-04-2008, 12:55 PM
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I sense nonsense a whole bunch of it. :D

Wile E
01-04-2008, 12:57 PM
I sense nonsense a whole bunch of it. :D

:laugh: Just trying to lighten the mood a little. :D

strick94u
01-04-2008, 03:58 PM
Well strange you got throught an arraignment (a judge reviewed the arrest and finding probable cause for you to be arrested, He agreeded with the cops) a Grand Jury of your peers reviewed the case( the people who live in your town agreed with the cops at the indictment returning a true bill ) then you went to trial and were found not guilty, and for some reason you feel that means you didn't do it. No that just means all you needed was 1 percent doubt ( or one jury member of 12 to find doubt)and you weren't convicted. The cops on the other hand need 100 percent no doubt ( or all 12 jury members to agree no doubt existed and convict)(a very high standard). Sounds to me like you just got away with it. This whole statement was spoken like OJ could have written it. Sounds to me like you should feel lucky you aren't in prison and need to be quiet. In addition to this if you get stopped at 2am and aren't drunk then you have nothing to fear do you? Also at 5am in the morning more accidents occur then, than any other time of the day, because it is dark still, people are tired, putting on makeup while driving, reading the newspaper while driving or just didn't leave early enough and are in a rush to get to work and are driving too fast. So it would stand to reason you would enforce more then wouldn't it. As for the 2am thing most drunks close the bars and are on the streets driving drunk then so wouldn't it stand to reason thats the time you would increase traffic enforcement for DUI's and since a bar is the place most people drink and drive from would that be the area you would concentrate on? My sole testimony against 3 police officers brought a 10 to 2 jury vote in my favor day 1 of jury deliberation day 2 12 agreed not sure what planet your from But in the USA the jury not the Judge or the cops have the final say. If you don't like this thread good, it was not meant for you and your cop buddies. Don't compare me to OJ no crime was committed in my case. If we were to start assuming bad things about people on here I would assume by your tone you’re no longer a police officer due to some kind of problem with how you did your job. I hope that makes you feel like your OJ comment makes me feel difference is I know I was not guilty and proved it. Fact is you don't like me and can't let that other thing go. And that’s why you’re a cop (ex) and you prove that by your attitude with anyone who disagrees with you. If you don't like this topic stay out of this thread it’s not meant for you 'GET it " And stop spamming with huge list of stuff make your point without the cut-n-paste.why not go make a police officer memorial Thread that would be the right thread for your list. And not a bad idea

imperialreign
01-04-2008, 11:18 PM
Just to throw another opinion - I live in the Hampton Roads region of VA, and I see very similar situations. Granted, the city I live in doesn't contend with the same crime rates as some of our neighboring cities - but our municipality law enforcement treats people the same way. During peak rush hour times, they're more apt to sit in neighborhoods pulling people over for going 5mph over the speed limit, instead of trying to curb all the traffic violations on our main roads. I give them the fact that our main roads are very dangerous (4 lanes, either direction), but people run red lights, blow past no turn signs, yield signs, stop signs - block intersections, make illegal manuevers . . . and they say that our traffic problem will be bad enough that by 2015, most of our region will be gridlocked. If our cops spent more time during rush hour pulling people for their stoopid driving, there would be fewer people with the balls to disregard right of way and traffic signs. The only reason people do so now is because they know they'll get away with it.

And, TBH, I've gotten to the point where the whole "their word against mine" is crap. I was pulled over about a month ago for "supposedly" doing 50 in a 35 (which was crap, cause I don't speed like that - it's considered wreckless around here, and I could lose my state inspection license with a charge like that). The cop claimed he paced me, even wrote it on the ticket. Before the court date, I pulled my car in the shop, and inspected the VSS, and found it to be slightly off (by about 2%), so I went ahead and replaced it anyway. I went into traffic court with a shop invoice from where I did the work, the receipt for the part - and on top of that, a TSB in regards to tranny line pressure issues that covers the year model squad cars that the police officers drive; I brought into question the accuracy of the VSS in the officers car that night, saying that there's just as much of a chance that it's out of acceptable parameters, especially considering how harsh police officers are on theri squad cars (I've got buddies that work for both the city motorpool, and the Ford dealerships that service their vehicles, I know how they punish them things) . . . well, the judge saw in favor of the officer, stating that the squad cars go through a rigorous weekly check over (bullshit), and that if something was found to be innacurate it'd be replaced (who's to say the tech working on the vehicle even checked it?!). The judge hit me with the full fine for doing 15 over, and wouldn't even reduce it to Defective Equipment - so $147 out of my pocket, plus 2 points on my driving record - simply because the cop said I was speeding.

Innocent until proven guilty, my ass.



And as for the whole officers killed in the line of duty bit - tragic, I agree. But what about the countless unsung EMS personnel, or fire response personnel who don't ever recieve any recognition for the work they do, or the sacrifices they make? Why is it that everywhere in this country, people only want to recognize the military and law enforcement for their contributions? Especially here! It pisses me off how our EMS and fire department go unrecognized. Our city's EMS is the largest volunteer rescue department in the nation. Our fire department was the largest all volunteer fire dperatment in the nation, until about 5 or 6 years ago when the city finally decided to go ahead and start actually paying them (which I was happy ot hear about). Our fire department has an average 5min response time, and our rescue squad (last I heard) runs about 6-7 on average. Anyway you look at it - these people recieve no where near the credit they deserve for they work they do :shadedshu

trt740
01-05-2008, 04:22 AM
My sole testimony against 3 police officers brought a 10 to 2 jury vote in my favor day 1 of jury deliberation day 2 12 agreed not sure what planet your from But in the USA the jury not the Judge or the cops have the final say. If you don't like this thread good, it was not meant for you and your cop buddies. Don't compare me to OJ no crime was committed in my case. If we were to start assuming bad things about people on here I would assume by your tone you’re no longer a police officer due to some kind of problem with how you did your job. I hope that makes you feel like your OJ comment makes me feel difference is I know I was not guilty and proved it. Fact is you don't like me and can't let that other thing go. And that’s why you’re a cop (ex) and you prove that by your attitude with anyone who disagrees with you. If you don't like this topic stay out of this thread it’s not meant for you 'GET it " And stop spamming with huge list of stuff make your point without the cut-n-paste.why not go make a police officer memorial Thread that would be the right thread for your list. And not a bad idea

spoken like a true innocent person who has no trouble with the law.

trt740
01-05-2008, 04:25 AM
spoken like a true innocent person who has no trouble with the law.


PM sent to me by strick94u

Fuck you and your OJ bull shit If you ever get to Houston you let me know you can try to beat me to.
like those pussy cops did. I can take an ass whipping from a badge wearer but you lost yours didnt you?

I retired from injuries recieved in the line of duty for the record after a lengthy and decorated career.

wazzledoozle
01-05-2008, 04:49 AM
Sigh.