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panchoman
11-27-2007, 11:24 PM
hmm, saturation is interesting to me, i seem to be in love with it, makes everything look so much more vivid and better. and right now im reinstalling ati drives and everything looks so weird with regular settings... is saturation good? does it distort stuff? should i continue to keep it at 100%?

Dr. Spankenstein
11-27-2007, 11:32 PM
I'm not sure the condition of your LCD, but if you have saturation at 100% it should look strange. But, I can that imagine if the picture seems "washed-out", upping the saturation is about your only option.

TBH, a correctly functioning and properly calibrated display shouldn't need much adjustment on either side of neutral/zero setting.

Go with what looks good, but know that maxing out settings like "Brightness", "Contrast", "Picture" and "Saturation"/"Color" will hasten the degradation of the components.

Enjoy!

imperialreign
11-28-2007, 12:00 AM
Go with what looks good, but know that maxing out settings like "Brightness", "Contrast", "Picture" and "Saturation"/"Color" will hasten the degradation of the components.


I'm not really sure to what extent having things maxed out will do to your monitor - I haven't read all that much into it, honestly. I'm sure, though, to a decent extent that having your monitor at 100% for every adjustment sooner or later will degrade the display to some degree . . . LCD's aren't as impervious as the older CRTs were. pancho: you might want to research that some more, maybe there is decent evidence out there.

as far as aesthetics are concerned, it's really up to personal taste, though. What looks good to you might like horrid to someone else. There are too many natural difference in the human eye, know what I mean?

JC316
11-28-2007, 12:00 AM
If it looks good, then use it. It simply boosts the colors of the screen, I used to use it on my crappy 15" CRT.

panchoman
11-28-2007, 12:02 AM
maybe if i can find the damn memory card for my camera, i'll take some pics

Dr. Spankenstein
11-28-2007, 12:18 AM
Go with what looks good, Enjoy!
as far as aesthetics are concerned, it's really up to personal taste, though. What looks good to you might like horrid to someone else.
If it looks good, then use it.

Not necessary. There is no way to relay a JPEG-of digicam photo-of a monitor-to other people's monitors and have any approximation of what is going on.

It you like it, rock-on!

ex_reven
11-28-2007, 12:23 AM
Enhancing the vibrancy of the colours can be good in small amounts.
All in all, its pretty straightforward.

http://img.techpowerup.org/071127/Untitled-1.jpg

panchoman
11-28-2007, 12:25 AM
well on my monitor it doesn't go to extreme that you're showing ex_reven

Dr. Spankenstein
11-28-2007, 12:27 AM
Nice representation! You used the term "vibrancy", are you using the cards adjustments or the monitors?

Anyways, I'm hoping Panchoman would not be enjoying his gaming if it looked like the rightmost image! Something tells me his LCD is burning out.


Whoops, slow on the draw...

panchoman
11-28-2007, 12:29 AM
burning out? hmm, i do have a little grey spot on my monitor, but i think it got stabbed there lol.

Dr. Spankenstein
11-28-2007, 12:33 AM
...with your WiiSaber? :roll:

ex_reven
11-28-2007, 12:33 AM
well on my monitor it doesn't go to extreme that you're showing ex_reven

It was just an example of course.
But yeah, if you need to push the saturation way high just to get good picture theres something wrong lol. Maybe you have a 'colour temperature' selected thats causing your display to be a little more sedate than it should be.

Pics would be useful here.

Dr. Spankenstein
11-28-2007, 12:35 AM
It was just an example of course.
But yeah, if you need to push the saturation way high just to get good picture theres something wrong lol. Maybe you have a 'colour temperature' selected thats causing your display to be a little more sedate than it should be.

Pics would be useful here.

Good point! He might be on a "Cool" temp setting.

panchoman
11-28-2007, 12:36 AM
trying to find the damn memory card for my camera. 100% saturation makes everything so much more vivid and stuff, without the saturation everything seems washed out

Dr. Spankenstein
11-28-2007, 12:39 AM
How do your blacks look? If there is nothing on the screen (like an intro to something), is it truely black or grey? If your brightness is too high it will have the washing-out effect.
Do you have Adobe Gamma in your control panel? It will walk you though a set up for a proper 2.2 gamma.

panchoman
11-28-2007, 12:42 AM
dont have adobe gamma.. dont even have CCC, trying to reinstall it atm. the blacks look like blacks i believe..

Dr. Spankenstein
11-28-2007, 12:45 AM
You would be able to tell in a dark room if your monitor had a "glow" when it should be black.

panchoman
11-28-2007, 12:47 AM
a glow around the black text?

hey and is there any "standard monitor settings" like the brightnss etc. so that im on the same page as everyone else, cause sometimes when im Photoshoping and stuff the color difference is there between what i see and what the other person sees you know?

ex_reven
11-28-2007, 12:51 AM
a glow around the black text?

hey and is there any "standard monitor settings" like the brightnss etc. so that im on the same page as everyone else, cause sometimes when im Photoshoping and stuff the color difference is there between what i see and what the other person sees you know?

Every monitor is different.
If you work on something in photoshop at home, and then take it to a printer you will get different colour output.

Not only will the printer's computer screen display the colour differently, but the printout itself will also be different. To establish "standards of colour" you need to create an ICC profile.

panchoman
11-28-2007, 12:54 AM
icc profile?

Dr. Spankenstein
11-28-2007, 01:26 AM
icc profile?

Yep. That's why I asked about Adobe Gamma. It should have been part of your Photoshop install.;) This will help you set-up that profile for your monitor/computer combo.

around black text?

No sir, on a completely black screen.

panchoman
11-28-2007, 01:28 AM
i have photoshop cs3 extended, i downloaded it seperately though, didn't download the whole suite.. that would've been expensive lol. i'll look for it though

Dr. Spankenstein
11-28-2007, 01:56 AM
A quick Google of "adobe gamma" will get you everything you need to know on the first page of results.

Try looking in C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Calibration for adobe gamma.cpl. Copy that into your Windows/System folder and it should appear in the Control Panel.
If not, others have mentioned that it may reside in a folder named "goodies" in the directory where Potoshop is installed.

Good luck and happy googling!

panchoman
11-28-2007, 02:01 AM
dont have it, just searched for .cpl, it wasn't there, and i also looked in the folders, nothing =/.

Dr. Spankenstein
11-28-2007, 02:07 AM
Who knows, maybe when I get home I can shoot it too you in an e-mail. PM me with your address.

panchoman
11-28-2007, 02:11 AM
yhgpm :)

panchoman
11-28-2007, 09:27 PM
what should be color temperature be set at? i had it at 9300k on the monitor, 6500k in CCC