View Full Version : 0.27 Beta 3
This is how I'm using beta3 post #6 and #7 http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=249405
SoupSauce
01-09-2008, 01:16 PM
Video Cards:
x1950 Crossfire Edition 512mb
x1950XTX 512mb
Drivers: Catalyst 7.12
I decided to reinstall Windows XP Pro and now ATi Tools is doing a very odd thing.
0.27 Beta 4 doesn't work period.
0.27 Beta 4 with beta 1 exe works with problems.
0.26 works with problems.
The problem with the two working versions is that whenever ATi tool is running I will randomly have my screen flash on and off. It is not the monitor, I've now tried 6 different LCD monitors. I've also removed one of the cards and ATi Tool worked fine with no flashing. However, when both cards are in for Crossfire ATi Tools will make my screen flash randomly. When I turn off ATi Tools everything runs fine.
So my question is, wth could be the problem? I tried both cards in my other computer one at a time and neither had any problem with ATi Tools there. It's only when it is in Crossfire mode....It never use to have a problem with it before, but now it does.
Regarding the HD38X0 series, it's looking like the Powerplay feature is causing some bother because I've been reading that when the GPU has 30% - 60% load it lowers the core speed. Some games don't use 100% load all the time apparently and Powerplay is causing stutters. So is there a way to over ride the Powerplay settings, ATI have said it's hardcoded and not possible to change through driver or bios settings.
Personally I find it a bit unusual for a D3D game not to sue 100% GPU all the time, I'm sure most game use 100% all the time.
Abdullahamir
01-09-2008, 04:38 PM
thanks guys
trob98
01-09-2008, 08:36 PM
Hi everyone
I have been using ATI tool for a long time.
Also have used your site often to get info.
Just registerd B/C I think I finally have something worthwhile to contribute
Thanks W1zzard for creating and updating this fine tool
I have a HD3870.
It does change clocks frequently while gaming depending on GPU Load
When I play Doom3 the clock will bounce back and forth and the game doesn't seem to mind.
When I play Americas Army the clocks bounce my game freezes for maybe 15 seconds than starts again.
It seems some games are ok with it but some are not but neither game needs 100% GPU load all the time it bounces up and down depending on the scene
denis.kiriakopoulos
01-09-2008, 09:22 PM
Hi
I have read some posts, but couldn't go through whole topic. Seems like i'm not the only one with that fan speed problem in my sapphire hd3870...
Is that a known bug ?
Note that I have a sapphire with 010.067 bios...
kdeathk
01-10-2008, 09:07 AM
I got this dialog box while starting ATITool.27beta3:
"The Kernel Mode Driver does not seem to be running
A device driver is required for communicationg with your video hardware.
If you just upgraded from an older version it may help to uninstall ATITool, reboot, then install new version."
This is my first time installing ATITool.27 beta3 on my vista32, any idea?
Thanks!
I got this dialog box while starting ATITool.27beta3:
"The Kernel Mode Driver does not seem to be running
A device driver is required for communicationg with your video hardware.
If you just upgraded from an older version it may help to uninstall ATITool, reboot, then install new version."
This is my first time installing ATITool.27 beta3 on my vista32, any idea?
Thanks!
Check if "ATITool Driver" under "ATITool Utility" is running correctly in Windows Device Manager first.
hclarkjr
01-10-2008, 11:46 PM
hi,
i have read through all 11 pages here and am a little confused as to if the latest beta will work with my sapphire HD2900 PRO 1GB. if the other owners of the 1gb cards could give me a few pointers and such i would greatly appreciate it. i have beta 3 installed but seen mentions of beta 4? where do i download that? i am running vista ultimate 64 bit with the hardware that is in my signature. thank you to all that reply
AciDCooL
01-11-2008, 12:06 AM
hi,
i have read through all 11 pages here and am a little confused as to if the latest beta will work with my sapphire HD2900 PRO 1GB. if the other owners of the 1gb cards could give me a few pointers and such i would greatly appreciate it. i have beta 3 installed but seen mentions of beta 4? where do i download that? i am running vista ultimate 64 bit with the hardware that is in my signature. thank you to all that reply
I'm an owner of an Club3d HD2900xt 1GB DDR4 and have to say dont use beta 4.. tried it on vista normal and 64bits but all it does is fuck up my clock speed while gaming.. sometimes I get 1mhz clock and 2mhz mem..
Or mid game it hops from 2d speeds to 3d speeds.. and voltage seems not to be locked aswell allways goes back to bios, but I allrdy flashed my bios to higher voltage so thats been worked around..
Some say use beta 4 install with beta 1 exe.. but didnt try that just aint using it anymore until it gets fixed
Parrot time :laugh::
hi,
i have read through all 11 pages here and am a little confused as to if the latest beta will work with my sapphire HD2900 PRO 1GB. if the other owners of the 1gb cards could give me a few pointers and such i would greatly appreciate it. i have beta 3 installed but seen mentions of beta 4? where do i download that? i am running vista ultimate 64 bit with the hardware that is in my signature. thank you to all that reply
Erm, if you really have read it all, you didn't read carefully.
First Post:
- Full Vista and XP64 support
- Latest NVIDIA non-WHQL drivers with some G8x cards not supported
(...)
The following is the only change from beta 3 to beta 4
11:20 AM CET - Updated the download:
- Fixed crash on X1950 and similar GPUs
- HD2900 can now switch to 3D clocks again
(...)
So "beta 4" is the modified beta 3, which you already have downloaded, except you downloaded it between 11-28-2007, 01:22 AM - 11-28-2007 at 11:20 AM.
Then use the "Search this thread" function and type 2900xt, you will receive 24 post to work with. At the end you will find out (90% sure on this), that it works with XP not with Vista 64.
AciDCooL
01-11-2008, 12:14 AM
Parrot time :laugh::
Erm, if you really have read it all, you didn't read carefully.
First Post:
So "beta 4" is the modified beta 3, which you already have downloaded, except you downloaded it between 11-28-2007, 01:22 AM - 11-28-2007 at 11:20 AM.
Then use the "Search this thread" function and type 2900xt, you will receive 24 post to work with. At the end you will find out (90% sure on this), that it works with XP not with Vista 64.
Go Alp :nutkick::rockout:
hclarkjr
01-11-2008, 09:13 PM
well thank you for all your kind replies, it is MEMBERS like you who make forums like this such fun to browse ;-)
MuffinFlavored
01-12-2008, 04:44 PM
eVGA nVIDIA 88000GTS G80 640MB
Windows Vista 32-bit
nVIDIA WHQL 169.25
ATITool 0.27 b3
Gigabyte P35-DQ6 F7d
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 @ stock
2GB DDR2-1066 5-5-5-15 RAM @ stock
2008-01-12 11:41:02 D Successfully connected to driver, version 150
2008-01-12 11:41:03 D Found NVIDIA device: 0x10DE 0x0193 bus 1 dev 0
2008-01-12 11:41:03 D fbPhy: 0x0, mmrPhy: 0xF6000000.
2008-01-12 11:41:03 D mmapped mmr to 0x2900000
2008-01-12 11:41:03 D F75373 temp chip detection: failed (VendorID)
2008-01-12 11:41:03 D ADT7473 temp chip detection: failed (VendorID)
2008-01-12 11:44:50 I Application terminated.
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1005/atitoolgm3.png
eVGA nVIDIA 88000GTS G80 640MB
Windows Vista 32-bit
nVIDIA WHQL 169.25
ATITool 0.27 b3
Gigabyte P35-DQ6 F7d
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 @ stock
2GB DDR2-1066 5-5-5-15 RAM @ stock
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1005/atitoolgm3.png
Wow, that's info!
I saw no question though, but I can tell can you won't get overclocking/Fan control/Voltage Control working with beta 3(4) and vista yet. You can use ATITool for Temp Control and Artifact scan only right now with 8800 series I think. As a temporary solution ;) you can use Rivatuner for overclocking, or wait for beta 5 (?).
Btw, I'm not sure if the Artifact Scanner really works, never could warn me before blank screen with 8800gt yet, or maybe I just didn't wait long enough before re-raising clocks...
MuffinFlavored
01-12-2008, 11:22 PM
Wow, that's info!
I saw no question though, but I can tell can you won't get overclocking/Fan control/Voltage Control working with beta 3(4) and vista yet. You can use ATITool for Temp Control and Artifact scan only right now with 8800 series I think. As a temporary solution ;) you can use Rivatuner for overclocking, or wait for beta 5 (?).
Btw, I'm not sure if the Artifact Scanner really works, never could warn me before blank screen with 8800gt yet, or maybe I just didn't wait long enough before re-raising clocks...
I just wanted to show that I do not get clock control.
The ATITool artifcat scan is giving me 200 fps, I used to get 1,100 FPS.
I do not think this is loading my graphics card.
I use RTHDRIBL instead.
I just wanted to show that I do not get clock control.
The ATITool artifcat scan is giving me 200 fps, I used to get 1,100 FPS.
I do not think this is loading my graphics card.
I use RTHDRIBL instead.
Card/Driver/OS?
That must be, because your card is in 2D-Mode (clocks). Try starting a 3D-game, minimize recheck your FPS. But that is the 3D-View, I meant the Artifact Scanner, when you try to find the maximum clocks, it should tell you if errors occur in the 3D-View, BEFORE card overheats. :)
MuffinFlavored
01-12-2008, 11:40 PM
Card/Driver/OS?
That must be, because your card is in 2D-Mode (clocks). Try starting a 3D-game, minimize recheck your FPS. But that is the 3D-View, I meant the Artifact Scanner, when you try to find the maximum clocks, it should tell you if errors occur in the 3D-View, BEFORE card overheats. :)
eVGA nVIDIA 88000GTS G80 640MB
Windows Vista 32-bit
nVIDIA WHQL 169.25
ATITool 0.27 b3
Gigabyte P35-DQ6 F7d
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 @ stock
2GB DDR2-1066 5-5-5-15 RAM @ stock
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1005/atitoolgm3.png
Previous post.
:roll: lol, didn't read the name, sry
MuffinFlavored
01-13-2008, 12:26 AM
I know that W1zzard is at CES right now.
He is also very very busy, with life, GPU-Z, ATITool, and now I am bugging him on the VGA BIOS Editor.
I am guessing he is aware that the latest nVIDIA drivers have changed something, and the clocks can no longer be read or changed.
thegave
01-14-2008, 09:41 PM
The Memory menu on ATITool 0.27b4 shows up garbled with my Sapphire X1950Pro 512mb AGP, and then the app crashes.
i865g 2.8C 2x512mb ddr400
Also, the screen-saver blocker doesn't seem to be working because screensaver will still come on while artifact scanning even when Disable screensaver during scanning is checked.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v160/the_gave/IMG_4430.jpg
Is it XP?
My suggestion, try replacing atitool.exe with the one from post #140 in this thread.
Monkeywoman
01-15-2008, 02:43 AM
u guys knoe that beta 4 is out? u can get it from http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Video-Tweak/ATITool.shtml
u guys knoe that beta 4 is out? u can get it from http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Video-Tweak/ATITool.shtml
Just checked on that one, it's the exact same as the one here from post 1 - the fixed beta 3, like describen also in post 1 :).
It would have wondered me, that no new thread was created anyway...
Monkeywoman
01-15-2008, 05:29 AM
yah, i was curious y another site would a program newer than the site of which it originated from. SOFTPIDIA SUX!!!!
thegave
01-15-2008, 05:50 PM
Same problem with Memory tab on Beta 3. Beta 4 with Beta 1 exe gives me the kernell error.
Also no voltage options with Beta 3. I'm guessing this means my card doesn't do it through software?
[edit] Ran beta 4 before replacing exe. Works fine but fewer options in Driver Tweaks section, still no voltage options and clicking on the Mem button gives me an error box that says modifying latencies is not available on this chipset. Does not crash.
Same problem with Memory tab on Beta 3. Beta 4 with Beta 1 exe gives me the kernell error.
Also no voltage options with Beta 3. I'm guessing this means my card doesn't do it through software?
I guess U mean the "Kernel Mode driver not workin...." Message on Startup.
Look into Device Manager if under "Atittool Utility"->"Atitool driver" exists (without errors).
Then in the menu of the Device Manager click on "View" and enable "Show hidden devices". A new Category should appear named: "Non-Plug and Play Drivers", check if there is anything with the yellow exclamation mark.
But I think the 1950 series should be working fine in XP and Vista with Atitool, but maybe ur right since I only got experience with 1950xt. U can also try Rivatuner ;)
thegave
01-15-2008, 06:53 PM
I got b4 to work with b1 exe. I have Windows XP Pro. I think I said that somewhere. It also says so in my System Specs. Which are humiliatingly on display for everyone. I also tried the voltage options in ATT and they kept switching back to default so I assume its guaranteed that I can't soft-mod my vgpu.
Also ATT says I'm on 0.900v vcore? What's up with that?
Is there any software that can show me my vgpu/vmem? It's kind of a bitch to open up my case and take measurements while it's on, I'm scared of shorting something.
Oh yeah just noticed that you offer system specs, and I put my system up there too, didn't knew that feature...
What did it make work now? Previous post u said u get an error?
I think your Voltage Fallback is because of the 2D-3D clock switching I keep talking about ;)
Try enabling "driver-level-overclocking" in x1000 overclocking Tab and to understand what that does, read this:
Post #239
Ok I'll play the parrot again :-|
With driver level overclocking ATITool doesn't overclock the card in 2D Mode.
You gotta switch card to 3D mode by starting a game and minimizing, then overclock like you want, save profile and set it as startup-profile (not 3D-Profile). Close game and restart atitool, check clocks (should be 2D-clocks, although your profile with overclocks was loaded). Now start game minimize check clocks (should be overclocked 3D-clocks now). And after you close game it reverts to 2D clocks again.
thegave
01-15-2008, 08:02 PM
I was talking about using ATT (ATi Tray Tools) which enables driver-level clocking by default. My ATI Tools doesn't show options for voltages, and I overclock on driver-level.
My edit in the top post says how I fixed the Kernell error, I had to run beta4 with its original exe to generate the kernel before I could overwrite the beta1 exe.
Is it ok to overclock not using driver-level clocking? Read what you've written, all that seems to mean is the overclock is applied in both 2D and 3D mode. Does artifact scanning enable 3D mode or do I need to disable driver-level clocking for Artifact Scan to run with the overclock?
I was talking about using ATT (ATi Tray Tools) which enables driver-level clocking by default. My ATI Tools doesn't show options for voltages, and I overclock on driver-level.
My edit in the top post says how I fixed the Kernell error, I had to run beta4 with its original exe to generate the kernel before I could overwrite the beta1 exe.
Is it ok to overclock not using driver-level clocking? Read what you've written, all that seems to mean is the overclock is applied in both 2D and 3D mode. Does artifact scanning enable 3D mode or do I need to disable driver-level clocking for Artifact Scan to run with the overclock?
Oh I see now.
It's not exactly what I wrote:
Yes it seems like you overclock both 2D and 3D first, but the driver applies the overclocks only when switching to 3D and leaves 2D at stock "underclocks" (both voltage and clocks), so u can't change 2D clock with driver level oc. Artifact scanner doesn't activate 3D, that's why I said run a game, minimize. When U disable driver level, but your driver does auto switch, then U need to know what Voltages you need for 3D-Mode or your card will crash.
As far as I understood U need to disable the Hotkey-Service or something to disable this ability of the driver to automatically switch, not sure how. The best way is to use Driver Level Overclocking, if u get it to work. I understood that system after weeks, it's very confusing but if u get through, it's the best way overclocking, since card stays stock at 2D.
thegave
01-15-2008, 09:08 PM
If that were true then overclocking my card normally should have no effect on it right? Yet GPU-Z reports the overclocked speeds and if I go too high it still crashes...
I'll try running artifact scanner with a game running. Maybe that's why I've been getting weirdly high clocks.
SoupSauce
01-17-2008, 02:54 AM
I guess no one has an insight to my problem. Guess I'll just not use ATi Tools then. Oh well.
Video Cards:
x1950 Crossfire Edition 512mb
x1950XTX 512mb
Drivers: Catalyst 7.12
I decided to reinstall Windows XP Pro and now ATi Tools is doing a very odd thing.
0.27 Beta 4 doesn't work period.
0.27 Beta 4 with beta 1 exe works with problems.
0.26 works with problems.
The problem with the two working versions is that whenever ATi tool is running I will randomly have my screen flash on and off. It is not the monitor, I've now tried 6 different LCD monitors. I've also removed one of the cards and ATi Tool worked fine with no flashing. However, when both cards are in for Crossfire ATi Tools will make my screen flash randomly. When I turn off ATi Tools everything runs fine.
So my question is, wth could be the problem? I tried both cards in my other computer one at a time and neither had any problem with ATi Tools there. It's only when it is in Crossfire mode....It never use to have a problem with it before, but now it does.
No1 has an idea why that can be, that's why no1 answers. :laugh:
Do you overclock the cards?
Playing around with "driver level overclocking" in x1000 tab doesn't change behavior?
Is that other computer you tried XP too with same drivers?
SoupSauce
01-17-2008, 04:30 AM
No1 has an idea why that can be, that's why no1 answers. :laugh:
Do you overclock the cards?
Playing around with "driver level overclocking" in x1000 tab doesn't change behavior?
Is that other computer you tried XP too with same drivers?
Not overclocked.
I haven't messed around with "driver level overclocking". I only touch fan control.
The other computer is XP and has the same drivers. Think I'll just upgrade back to Vista Business and see if I still have the problem
I had best results with 1950xt when driver level oc was enabled, give it a try.
SoupSauce
01-17-2008, 05:27 AM
Nope it still does it =/
Yeah going to install Vista business and see if it still does it.
thegave
01-17-2008, 01:34 PM
If he's not overclocking I don't think having driver-level clocking would make a difference..
matlamont
01-17-2008, 02:09 PM
Windows xp sp2/Ati 2900 pro catalyst 8.1 driver
crashes when finding max core. :ohwell:
tgbyhn10
01-18-2008, 12:13 PM
I am using ATITool 0.27 Beta 3 to control the fan speed on a x1950pro under Vista Home Premium 32bit
I have done the following:
Changed fan control to dynamic based on GPU temp and altered values to the fan speeds I want.
I selected to store fan details in the profile and saved that profile.
I changed the startup defaults to load my saved profile on startup.
I am using windows task schedules to start ATITool when windows starts to avoid the "windows has blocked some apps" problem caused by UAC
Everything works fine until I put the computer into standy. When I resume from standby, ATITool is still loaded and running but the fan speed reverts to 41% which I assume is the application default rather than the profile default it was running when the system went into standby.
Any chance this resume problem can be fixed?
Many thanks
Pete
thegave
01-19-2008, 03:26 AM
Windows xp sp2/Ati 2900 pro catalyst 8.1 driver
crashes when finding max core. :ohwell:
Something wrong with the find max function, although that might only be for the X1950 cards I don't remember..
Don't be lazy! Find max takes the fun and guesswork out of it.
Maniax
01-21-2008, 01:06 AM
Ati HD2600XT
AtiTools v27b3
XPSP2
When i enable 'override fan settings' the only function that works is 'static percent' and 'keep temperature at 70°' (the 'dynamic one' doesn't work at all) and i have to press the 'Apply' button everytime manually (after windows restart) before these settings will be activated. 'FanControl override' switch keeps (cosmetically) enabled though.
I cannot store a 'fan settings' profile since AtiTools doesn't allow to exclude 'clock speeds' in a profile. Every time i restart AtiTools 'clock speeds' switch will be re-enabled if i look into profiles properties. Setting 'clock speeds' disables Atis automatic underclocking (800MHz->110MHz). That's no option.
How can i autostart AtiTools v27b3 so it activates 'keep 70°' fan control profile without changing clock speeds?
Edit: Weird.. now i can autoload a profile at startup that even though it has 'Clock Speeds' flag checked doesn't touch the clocks. At least CCC shows still 110MHz in 2D Mode now after AtiTools starts up. I hope it keeps running that way...
Edit: I give up... it has +14° with profile startup so it most likely changes the clocks. Now i have 'no kernel mode driver running' errors nearly every time AtiTools autostarts but i can manually start AtiTools after that without problems. This version seems too unstable at the moment. I hope its still under development.
:cry: So many bugs, we all should beg ATI & Nvidia to implement dynamic Fan Control adjustablility directly into the drivers. Every card seems to play it's own game. Poor W1zard won't be able to fix all that different behaviors.
MuffinFlavored
01-21-2008, 06:25 PM
:cry: So many bugs, we all should beg ATI & Nvidia to implement dynamic Fan Control adjustablility directly into the drivers. Every card seems to play it's own game. Poor W1zard won't be able to fix all that different behaviors.
Agreed.
nVIDIA should make nTune not crap.
and ATI, Overdrive is lol.
PashaM
01-22-2008, 07:25 AM
so many pages here confusing me... so is Vista x64 supported now? and whats the latest beta? 4?
You should start with post 1 ;)
- Full Vista and XP64 support
- Support for all ATI RV6xx ASICs
- No changes to R600 support in this build
- Better support for multiple adapters
- Latest NVIDIA non-WHQL drivers with some G8x cards not supported
- Better handling of clock step sizes
- Fixed vertex/pixel/unified shader reporting
- Added detection for about 20 older and newer ATI ASICs
11:20 AM CET - Updated the download: <-----(Alp:we call this beta 4)
- Fixed crash on X1950 and similar GPUs
- HD2900 can now switch to 3D clocks again
http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.27b3.exe <-----(Alp:we call this beta 4)
kemhof
01-23-2008, 05:09 PM
I'm on Vista Ultimate 64 bit.
ATITool_0.27b3.exe does indeed run. and Seems to run ok.
I have a sapphire 3850 512mb Card. Love the card. I also love ATITool - i've used it since my x800 card. My only gripe here, and I don't know if its vista's fault, ATI Tool's fault, ATI driver fault, etc, But Fan control is really lacking.
I prefer that my card idles around 40c - which is possible if I manually control the fan speed. However, then I have to manually raise the fan speed when i go to play.
The Dynamic Fan control based on GPU temperature just doesn't work. I've set it so that if the GPU temperature is over 40c it should run at 50%. Right now the temperature is at 45c Fan speed hasn't changed and the temperature is still rising.
I'm not blaming ATI tool - there could be multiple things that are effecting this. But the question I am asking is - what can I do to help rectify this?
Bernardo
01-23-2008, 09:12 PM
I'm a big fan of ATI Tool! I have Asus EAH3870 Crossfire setup since a few days, running on WINXP and Catalyst 8.1 Hotfix.
in 0.27b I can read my temps correctly of both cards, also clocks and everything is working fine. Except for the fan speed. It won't change it, and doesnt read it good too.
Azathoth
01-23-2008, 10:23 PM
The reason you can't change the fan speed is probably because of bios, there is an bug in the old bios so if you clock it over 862 MHz it crashes and you can't change the fan speed. You have to flash you bios to a newer on to take care of it.
Bernardo
01-23-2008, 10:32 PM
The reason you can't change the fan speed is probably because of bios, there is an bug in the old bios so if you clock it over 862 MHz it crashes and you can't change the fan speed. You have to flash you bios to a newer on to take care of it.
Ok, but what BIOS is a good one for my Asus card then? I can only find BIOS' for Saphire/HIS/etc cards, and I'm not sure which I should use.
BIOHazard87
01-23-2008, 10:52 PM
not sure if its been said since I dont want to read a billion pages, but overclocking doesnt work on my 8800GT 512mb, Vista 32bit :(
cool_recep
01-24-2008, 12:05 AM
Hi all...
I have:
Beta 3 (Fixed)
Vista 32 Bit
Catalyst 8.1
2900 XT
The "Find Max Mem" option does not work!
Also ATITool does not switch to 3D clocks after start altough the settings tells to siwtch!
Thanks W1z:rockout:
Azathoth
01-24-2008, 06:10 AM
Bernardo: It doesn't matter. I think all should work as long as they are for right card, if it's asus or something else doesn't matter.
not sure if its been said since I dont want to read a billion pages, but overclocking doesnt work on my 8800GT 512mb, Vista 32bit :(
Doesn't work with 8800GT yet :mad:, only Temp monitoring.
Ripcord
01-24-2008, 10:02 PM
i keep getting a damaged installer error when trying to run this file
says the installer you are useing is damaged or incomplete
manu_eit
01-25-2008, 10:22 PM
1st of all, thanks for this great tool.
I have an X1950 Pro and ATITool 0.27B4 is able to set the Core frequency. As for the Memory frequency as soon as I set an higher value than the default one, even just +1MHz, my PC hangs.
Now, the issue: Opening the "Mem" windows displays unreadible characters and when closing this form, an exception is thrown and ATITool is closed.
manu_eit
01-25-2008, 10:31 PM
Windows XP SP2 32bits, Core2 Duo E6600, MSI P965 Platinium, 2Gb RAM 667MHz, Saphirre X1950 Pro 256Mb, 3 Sata2 WD (500Gb +2x80G Raid 1)
1st of all, thanks for this great tool.
I have an X1950 Pro and ATITool 0.27B4 is able to set the Core frequency. As for the Memory frequency as soon as I set an higher value than the default one, even just +1MHz, my PC hangs.
Now, the issue: Opening the "Mem" windows displays unreadible characters and when closing this form, an exception is thrown and ATITool is closed.
You got two options to check out:
-change setting for "driver level overclocking" (x1000 overclocking tab)
or/and
-try replacing ATITool.exe with the beta 1 from post 140 (page 6) in this thread (leave b3/4 installed).
thegave
01-28-2008, 02:15 AM
Did it work for you, manu_eit?
It didn't make a difference for me, Memory window was still garbled.
MadCow
01-28-2008, 08:39 PM
Yea my memory window's the same too. I made a thread in the bug reports section.
derFeef
01-29-2008, 10:43 PM
Hey, thanky you sir for x64 support on vista :)
first of all, no major problems.
my only problem is, that the voltages are not loading with the OC profile, even if I check the box in the profile properties (I saved the voltages to the correct profile ;))
I have to set the voltages, then I am able to load the clock and mem profile.
If I am loading the profile alone, the voltages stay the same (I think so) and the computer hangs.
Anyone has a solution for this? Thanks in Advance!
X1900 XT
Vista 64 Ultima
Durzel
01-31-2008, 11:54 AM
Hey, thanky you sir for x64 support on vista :)
first of all, no major problems.
my only problem is, that the voltages are not loading with the OC profile, even if I check the box in the profile properties (I saved the voltages to the correct profile ;))
I have to set the voltages, then I am able to load the clock and mem profile.
If I am loading the profile alone, the voltages stay the same (I think so) and the computer hangs.
Anyone has a solution for this? Thanks in Advance!
X1900 XT
Vista 64 UltimaDon't think there is a solution for it at the moment. Just remember to set the voltages manually before applying clocks. :)
derFeef
01-31-2008, 12:07 PM
Don't think there is a solution for it at the moment. Just remember to set the voltages manually before applying clocks. :)
Oh, did not know that this is a known problem :rolleyes: Thank you for the information!
manu_eit
01-31-2008, 01:52 PM
Did it work for you, manu_eit?
It didn't make a difference for me, Memory window was still garbled.
The memory is still unreadable on both ATITool 0.27, but at least, ATITool 0.27b1 does not crash. On the other hand, ATITool 0.27b4 still crashes even with "driver level overclocking" (x1000 overclocking tab) setting checked.
derFeef
01-31-2008, 02:39 PM
If I set the "driver level overclocking" I cannot set or read clocks, there is always a 0 instead of the real values.
thegave
01-31-2008, 02:56 PM
The memory is still unreadable on both ATITool 0.27, but at least, ATITool 0.27b1 does not crash. On the other hand, ATITool 0.27b4 still crashes even with "driver level overclocking" (x1000 overclocking tab) setting checked.
When/how does it crash, randomly or while artifact-scanning?
stoney
01-31-2008, 06:25 PM
0.27b4 isn't working for me with my X1650 in 64-bit Vista Ultimate. No matter what I try I get "Kernel Mode Driver does not seem to be running." ATITool starts, log is empty, but it doesn't detect my card and obviously I can't change any settings.
Installation method:
1. Uninstall previous attempt.
2. Delete all atitool files (atitool.sys, etc.) not removed by uninstall.
3. Reboot.
3a. I have tried disabling driver signature checks at boot.
4. Run Installer as Administrator.
5. Run ATITool as Administrator.
Feel like I must be doing something wrong here...
Spacehead
01-31-2008, 06:38 PM
There isn't any beta 4....
W1zzard just updated beta3 exe with minor bug fixes.
sneekypeet
01-31-2008, 06:40 PM
There isn't any beta 4....
W1zzard just updated beta3 exe with minor bug fixes.
There is a beta 4 I have both of them from when they were released a while back....It may be only a changed version of 3 but there was in fact a beta4 released!
AsRock
01-31-2008, 06:52 PM
I've had to stop using beta 3/4 due to fan \ clock issues after a game being minimized resulting in slower game play or GPU overheating to the point were VPU kicks in.
stoney
01-31-2008, 07:07 PM
Regardless, the same issue occurs with 0.27b3. The driver is not being installed.
I guess U mean the "Kernel Mode driver not workin...." Message on Startup.
Look into Device Manager if under "Atittool Utility"->"Atitool driver" exists (without errors).
Then in the menu of the Device Manager click on "View" and enable "Show hidden devices". A new Category should appear named: "Non-Plug and Play Drivers", check if there is anything with the yellow exclamation mark.
(...)
@stoney
u guys knoe that beta 4 is out? u can get it from http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Video-Tweak/ATITool.shtml
Just checked on that one, it's the exact same as the one here from post 1 - the fixed beta 3, like describen also in post 1 :).
It would have wondered me, that no new thread was created anyway...
and i compared them binary!
Somehow the fixed beta 3 got the name "beta 4" and we call it so. There are only a handful of people that downloaded it between 11-28-2007, 01:22 AM and 11-28-2007 at 11:20 AM who really have the original beta 3.
stoney
01-31-2008, 07:37 PM
@Alp: Nothing. The installer is not installing the device.
stoney
01-31-2008, 07:45 PM
Here's the details from the installation:
Output folder: C:\Program Files (x86)\ATITool
Extract: ATITool.exe... 100%
Extract: ATIToolHooks.tmp... 100%
Rename: C:\Program Files (x86)\ATITool\ATIToolHooks.tmp->C:\Program Files (x86)\ATITool\ATIToolHooks.dll
Created uninstaller: C:\Program Files (x86)\ATITool\Uninstall.exe
Output folder: C:\Users\Me\AppData\Local\Temp
Extract: ATITool.inf... 100%
Extract: ATITool.cat... 100%
Extract: ATITool64.sys... 100%
Extract: ATITool.sys... 100%
Extract: DrvInst64.exe... 100%
Driver setup: started
Old devices: could not remove (E0000235)
New device: could not create (E0000235)
Installing driver from: C:\Users\Me\AppData\Local\Temp\ATITool.inf
New device driver: could not install (00000005)
New device: could not start (00000005)
Create folder: C:\Users\Me\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Star t Menu\Programs\ATITool
Create shortcut: C:\Users\Me\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Star t Menu\Programs\ATITool\Uninstall.lnk
Create shortcut: C:\Users\Me\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Star t Menu\Programs\ATITool\ATITool.lnk
Create shortcut: C:\Users\Me\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Star t Menu\Programs\ATITool\ATITool Log File.lnk
Completed
But the "ATITool64.sys" is in "C:\Windows\System32\drivers" Folder?
Interestingly it's not in SysWOW64\drivers, at least at mine.
Btw, the beta 3/4 (call it like you want ;)) is signed now, so u shouldn't need to disable the driver signing enforcement.
(...)
Old devices: could not remove (E0000235)
New device: could not create (E0000235)
Installing driver from: C:\Users\Me\AppData\Local\Temp\ATITool.inf
New device driver: could not install (00000005)
New device: could not start (00000005)
(...)
I had those lines too at setup. But after rebooting the device was there and worked, so I didn't bother.
stoney
01-31-2008, 09:27 PM
It's working now. I had to disable encryption on my Temp directory to get it to install properly.
stoney
02-01-2008, 01:00 AM
Well, now that I've gotten it installed properly, it's not really working. Clicking 'Show 3D View' shows the cube for a fraction of a second while reporting a ridiculously high FPS (~40000) then the window goes white. This is without changing clock speed.
A search hasn't turned up much. One guy had this problem, but he had seemingly clocked his memory too high. Since I haven't changed anything it probably doesn't apply.
I tried lowering my clock speed a bit resulting in a blank screen and system hang.
The log doesn't show any problems.
I'm not sure where to go from here. I'm still searching for a solution, but any hints would be appreciated.
So is only the 3D-View not working but the rest, or is it more?
What you can/should try ist the following, it's giving magical cure sometimes (at least on x1950XT, your 1650 should be the same family)
You got two options to check out:
-change setting for "driver level overclocking" (x1000 overclocking tab)
or/and
-try replacing ATITool.exe with the beta 1 from post 140 (page 6) in this thread (leave b3/4 installed).
stoney
02-01-2008, 05:53 PM
Neither driver level overclocking nor the beta1 executable resolved the issue.
So is only the 3D-View not working but the rest, or is it more?
Works:
GUI works fine.
Card seems to be detected properly.
Doesn't work:
3D View (and obviously anything which uses it).
Changing clock speed causes system hang.
Then I'm pretty sure it's something with the Graphics driver. If you got much time you can try using another driver (newer of course, but maybe even older version, just to check if it changes anything).
Were you able to overclock the card earlier, not that it's locked in the Bios of the Card or something?
pirlouy
02-03-2008, 06:34 PM
I have tried this beta 3 (since version 0.26 can't launch) in order to reduce fan speed and noise of my Gigabyte HD3850 (GV-RX385512H) but I have not succeed...
Even if I change the percentage in "fan control", speed stays at maximum.
Here is the log which can explain this boring behavior:
2008-02-03 19:24:32 D Successfully connected to driver, version 150
2008-02-03 19:24:32 D Found ATI device: 0x1002 0x0000 bus 1 dev 0
2008-02-03 19:24:32 D GPU model: RV670 Pro
2008-02-03 19:24:32 D fbPhy: 0xE0000000, mmrPhy: 0xF5000000.
2008-02-03 19:24:32 D mmapped mmr to 0xE50000
2008-02-03 19:24:32 D RV6xx internal temp chip detection: success
2008-02-03 19:24:32 D Device initialized successfully
2008-02-03 19:24:32 D Could not read driver's clock table: 2
Atitool installed (beta from post #1) on:
Laptop, core2duo,
Vista Basic N 32 Bit
Go7600 256MB 128BIT
driver comes from Laptopvideo2go.(169.28)
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/9887/gpuz7600go256mbwa0.jpg
Ati Tool Works for GPU only, memory always resets it's clock:
http://img125.imageshack.us/my.php?image=atitool27go7600fn1.jpg
Before "setting the clock", (already put in the values by hand, but to slider is no differrence)
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6205/atitool27go7600beforekv7.jpg
After setting Core goes down, memory stays! (current value)
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9282/atitool27go7600afterka4.jpg
Don't know if it's a driver issue but found that:
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/4305/atitool27go7600fn1.jpg
3D Box runs fine but clock doesnt go up as in default profile.
Thank you for your effort and time, ati tool is great. (For Battery Saving too ;-)
:twitch: So this is what ATITool looks like on a Notebook, heh :twitch:
I'm wonderering why we Desktop Users can't set our 2D/3D Clocks independantly with that comfort!?!
Let me answer your non-questions with counter questions :laugh:
Ati Tool Works for GPU only, memory always resets it's clock:
(...)
After setting Core goes down, memory stays! (current value)
Maybe you reached the minimum the driver allows for mem?
Before "setting the clock", (already put in the values by hand, but to slider is no differrence)
Why should it? Doesn't do that at mine too, either slider or type in, after pressing "Set Clock" it syncs sliders to numbers.
Don't know if it's a driver issue but found that:
3D Box runs fine but clock doesnt go up as in default profile.
That's normal I think, the 3D-View doesn't switch GPU to 3D-Mode as it seems. Try running a game or something to get it into 3D-Mode and Alt-Tab back.
@Alp
I meant look at the picture RAm is at 200Mhz an on click (and previous type in of 135) the slider JUMPS back to 200Mhz.
I've done that prior to ATI tool with rivatuner and it worked (driver ins't limiting anything that's the bad side with downclock :wtf: system hangs if i go too low)
just tried ati tool als downclock doesn't hurt hardware and it's just more comfort with ATI Tray tool no other tool (NHC either) is that nice :rolleyes:
i thought that nvidia is supported too and why not (Gpu is just castrtd. from desktop core is the same.
So bug or not that the Question? or my foolery :banghead:
PS:
May be vista is more 3d then Xp that's why it's alwaysrunning in "low 3d"
and Nvidias Powermizer support isn't that ready, runs and can be monitored by some nvidia tool but is far away from user control.
Ah, ok.
Must be a bug in Atitool then. Nvidia support in Atitool is definetly there, but not as developed as for ATI GPUs yet. F.ex. I can only Temp monitor my 8800GT yet, nothing else :mad:
Surely the permanent low 3D has to do with Vista's Aero thingy.
One more thing, was it the same clock (low3d-mode) u could go lower on with Rivatuner, maybe retry it now, then u can say for sure that's it's Atitool?
P.S. I like ATItool most of all, too. But the longer I can't use it, the more I start liking Rivatuner. Today I found out u can change clock-speed dependant on GPU temperature and some other cool things.
on vista basic it should be possible to obtain 2d state. (all effects are off, just to safe some energy :laugh: )
won't go dualboot to much hassle wich xp and vist.
i am currently testing rivatuner.:rolleyes:
do work ;-( clock change: only for 3d mode @ all)
"Added ForceWare 167.xx and 169.xx drivers families support. Please take a note that 2D/3D performance levels switching is broken in currently broken in these drivers, so adjusting 2D performance level settings (e.g. 2D clocks) via RivaTuner will also change 3D performance level settings and vice versa." (http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=rivatuner&menu=8)
Driver Problem arg!?!
-> stay with ati tool, and wait for new driver from nvidia
Tontoman
02-07-2008, 03:00 AM
Baum, you can always do the lazy mans dual boot.
Two hard drives, one with XP, one with Vista. Just swap the drive boot order around depending on what OS you want to run. No dual boot hassles and makes for easy backups.
:toast:
T.
kureng
02-08-2008, 11:08 AM
this version on vista still quite buggy.. with HIS HD3870 ICEQ3 (catalyst 8.1)
Environment temp actually shows GPU Load Percentage... the temp would not exceed 100,and it show exactly the same value of GPU load at CCC Overdrive menu, i can conclude it is the GPU load...
Fan control still not working properly, only forcing the fan 100% will worked. fan speed based on respective temps not working..
plus, file logging is buggy and annoying message windows of "Cannot write to log file" appear after sometimes.. the log file is written properly, just the windows keeps pop up..
RejZoR
02-08-2008, 10:23 PM
Now i can't get this thing working even with admin rights. WTF!? ATi Tray Tools works every and each time even without dumb task scheduler hacking but noooo ATiTol still works similar to a pile of crap. Cmon? Fix the damn thing already once and for all :rolleyes:
thegave
02-09-2008, 02:32 AM
Hey ALP something weird happened.
I modded my bios to be overclocked in 3D mode (if that's what the Default profile in RaBiT means) and stock for the 2D profile. Flashed it. Rebooted. Loaded up ATiTools, which says the Default clocks are the overclocked ones but the actual clocks are stock. I thought about what you said about ATiTool working in 2D mode so I closed it, started a game, and opened ATiTool again and it was still on stock clocks...
Is that an ATiTool problem or RaBiT/bios problem?
I never used RaBiT, just heard of it.
I thought about what you said about ATiTool working in 2D mode so I closed it, started a game, and opened ATiTool again and it was still on stock clocks...
Do you mean the stock 3D-Clocks here? Then I'd say the flash didn't succeed?
When you mean ATITool is showing the stock 2D-clocks, then it's just switching back to 2D again. I found out that it doesn't work sometimes with minimizing the game, under some circumstances. I can't remember right now, but I saw a more secure trick somewhere to manually switch card to 3D to be sure what's going on. I'll tell you if I find that again.
Meanwhile try a 3D-game u can put in windowed mode, so u don't have to minimize ;)
thegave
02-09-2008, 02:49 PM
It doesn't matter, I flashed the OC'd clocks to both profiles and now ATiTool reports them correctly
I thought the stock 2D and 3D clocks were the same, they are according to RaBiT.
But 2D and 3D clocks shouldn't be the same, 2D should be much lower than 3D normally.
So does it work OK now? Are U confident with that Bios thing, what do you need ATITool for now? I ask because maybe I'll try that too on my Server (but with underclocking).
BIOHazard87
02-09-2008, 10:20 PM
Doesn't work with 8800GT yet :mad:, only Temp monitoring.
lame :( have to wait till beta 4 I guess
thegave
02-09-2008, 11:20 PM
I guess I don't really need ATiTool anymore.. Cos all my clocks are set and I have no need to change them anymore. At least not until the vmod comes.
But I do like ATiTool for artifact scanning, not really sure why. Just always struck me as being reliable... But not all that helpful because it just crashes, without artifacting. And even when Artifact Scan is unstable all games run fine for over an hour... Been experimenting a bit with ATT artifact scanner..
MadCow
02-10-2008, 08:53 PM
I don't know if this is a common problem, but overclocking doesn't work at all under Vista X64 with my X1950 PRO. Both the core and mem clocks show 0 and if I raise them and set them it'll just return to 0.
@Madcow
It's kinda common...
You got two options to check out:
-change setting for "driver level overclocking" (x1000 overclocking tab)
or/and
-try replacing ATITool.exe with the beta 1 from post 140 (page 6) in this thread (leave b3/4 installed).
I had best results on x1950XT with "driver level overclocking" enabled, but u can't change 2D clocks then, if u really want to.
RatusNatus
02-12-2008, 01:28 AM
The "beta 4" and the Beta 3 are the very same file...so, lets say Beta 3 right now.
Sry, but we had that some hundred times, beta 3 doesn't exist anymore it was updated some hours after this thread began. So pratically no1 has the initial beta 3.
So how you call an updated beta 3, maybe beta 3.1, or better beta 4?
Or you just ignore the initial beta 3 and keep calling it beta 3.
I had a lesson at University in Germany in my computing class called "Software development", that taught me you shouldn't name different revisions of Applications by the same name.
W1zard seemingly didn't want to start another thread so he sticked with this one.
Jeronimo
02-12-2008, 08:24 PM
eVGA nVIDIA 88000GTS G80 640MB
Windows Vista 32-bit
nVIDIA WHQL 169.25
ATITool 0.27 b3
Gigabyte P35-DQ6 F7d
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 @ stock
2GB DDR2-1066 5-5-5-15 RAM @ stock
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/1005/atitoolgm3.png
I am having the same issue with my Club3D 8800 GTS 320MB.
hogans
02-13-2008, 04:00 PM
Has there been any talk of an update to allow ATI Tool to work with the new ATI 3870 x 2 cards?
I am :banghead: because I am not able to OC my new card!
Nothing seems to work, including Rivatuner.
The new 8.2 drivers are supposed to be available sometime today, we shall see what those resolve!
Nope, no1 posted positive or negative results with the 3870 X2's yet.
Have you installed CCC, where you can overclock at least a bit (not pretty much tho) in the ATI Overdrive Section, or isn't that tab available on the new cards (yet)?
Or, is RaBiT (Bios modifier), "thegave" talked about on previous page, not working with those?
is reporting shaders:12/5 for x1900m right?GPU is M68 as reported (R570)
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2499/x1900meverestatitoolwr3.jpg
:confused: just confused about Pixelpipelines
is reporting shaders:12/5 for x1900m right?GPU is M68 as reported (R570)
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/2499/x1900meverestatitoolwr3.jpg
:confused: just confused about Pixelpipelines
I would use GPU-Z to find that out :). So it should be correct.
Or, if you don't trust, google it, or ask in the GPU-Z thread, there they should know it better.
FYI, the x1950XT (R580) has 48/8 but mobiles are always cut off a bit.
i meant in comparison to everest in the background.
wich one is wron in this case? :confused:
Now I see what U mean.
The Pixel Pipelines (12 in your case) have 3 Shaders each = 36 Shaders
I guess it's a GPU-Z Bug not multiplying that out then, since it says Shaders, not Pipelines.
Cause when the x1950XT has 48 it would be a dramatic cut off with 12, I wondered.
Show that in the GPU-Z thread, must be here somewhere.
RatusNatus
02-14-2008, 08:37 PM
Beta 3 keep crashing my 1950XT. Looks like 1950 dont have a stable version.
@RatusNatus
You got two options to check out:
-change setting for "driver level overclocking" (x1000 overclocking tab)
or/and
-try replacing ATITool.exe with the beta 1 from post 140 (page 6) in this thread (leave b3/4 installed).
I had best results on x1950XT with "driver level overclocking" enabled, but u can't change 2D clocks then, if u really want to.
Is it Vista or XP?
RatusNatus
02-15-2008, 06:43 PM
Thanks for the reply Alp.
Its XP. Iv just forgot this option on my last format. Any othr advise will be apreciated.
Thanks :)
So does it still crash now?
intelduo
02-15-2008, 10:40 PM
When will ATITool support voltage control on HD3870?
TonyStark
02-16-2008, 04:39 AM
When will ATITool support voltage control on HD3870?
Never.
A hard mod is required to boost voltage on the HD3870. Check the sticky in the video card section for instructions on volt-modding the 3870.
cgcox
02-17-2008, 12:37 AM
Does anybody have this problem?
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=52096
nickless
02-18-2008, 08:24 AM
@W1zzard, Is there any solution of GPU voltage bug in Ati tool? I manage to run my HD 2900 Pro 1GB at 1007/2448 (http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?image=16901eu1.jpg) under water. GPU can run at higher speed, because the temps are too low yet(52*C under load), but this bug stop me and I don't want to make hard Vmods if there is solution of this problem.
XP Pro x86, Cat 7.11
Thanks!
thegave
02-18-2008, 11:13 AM
Holy f@ck!
RatusNatus
02-18-2008, 05:11 PM
So does it still crash now?
Nops, thanks again :toast:
JohnnyFlash
02-19-2008, 09:26 AM
Just thought I'd throw in my experience.
Mobility HD 2600: Overclocking works, but it can't read the temps at all.
piebobs71
02-19-2008, 11:27 AM
dont seem to have any fan control in xp32 on a crossfire setup of 2 3870's everything else seems to work might try a wee o/c later,using beta4 and beta3.
whats a safe but noticable o/c?
zoran800
02-20-2008, 01:04 PM
Hi W1zz,
I'm just curious when's the next beta out... I've got a 3870X2. So far I'm using AMD GPU clock tool to change frequencies, but, to be honest I dont like it at all :(
The card behaves strangely... when overclocked, the performance fluctuates a lot, sometimes it's faster then stok, sometimes slower tho.
Do you know anything about this problem? I'm at stock cooling so far, as I'm waiting for my replacement card as they've sent me the "cheaper" asus card, so I don't want to put water on it till the other card arrives.
Could it be because of the cooling (the strange aluminium heatsink on one of the cores)? or could it be because of the internal CF link chip? maybe you should make it possible to raise frequencies on that one as well (if it's possible at all)!!?? or gpuclocktool simply raises only the clock of one of the cores which results in non symmetrical power??
The card is excellent, but... So far, I'm confused and upset :(
Looking forward to next release :)
Anyway, Thanx for AtiTool mate!
Vielen Dank :)
piebobs71
02-20-2008, 01:42 PM
i have fan control but only when i set it to a set level if i use the temp dependant section nothing happens ,the main thing im bothered about is the powercolor card the fan on that just doesnt seem to like moving making this card at idle 45 ish while my sapphire card is at 33 ish ,granted the hs/f on the sapphire is a bit chunkier.thinking about selling both 3870's on ebay and buying an 3870 x2.
Hi just wanted to give some Feedback to Beta 4 with my new Sapphire HD 3870. Ok, where to start :
1. In Basic View, the "Temperature of temp. chip" actually shows the current gpu load, and no Temperature at all. Fan Speed and GPU Temperature are correct.
2. The Monitoring page works great, except that the 2d clock rate (300 MHZ) isnt recognized. There's also a tiny Bug with Min. Max. Current and Avg. i think... Min e.g. was the max. temperature...
3. Fan Control:
Fixed percentage works great :)
Try to keep GPU Temperature at also works great, with a tiny problem, that i always have to reapply it after a restart, because if i don't the fan will stay at 0% until the temperature is reached. After applying it stays nice at 10% ;)
Dynamic based on GPU Temperature doesn't work for me. But that may have to do s.th. with the bios of my card... (the bios 010.77.) since there the fan doesnt work either...
Ok, thats it. Looking forward to try a new beta :D
Thx, for your work.
€dit: Forgot my System Specs:
Athlon 64 X2 4200+ (939) @ 2750MHZ
Radeon 3870 512 MB GDDR4
Windows XP
Skip
Hawlk
02-23-2008, 11:17 PM
i have the same issues with beta 4 and my X3870 as skip has reported.
not a complaint just confirming skips findings
RejZoR
02-24-2008, 06:08 PM
I can't get this junk to work since um forever. Kernel mode driver doesn't sem to be running yadidadida blablabla. This program is absolutelly totally useless under Vista (which is not even x64 !?!!??). Running in admin mode, copying sys files to system32 folder, performing rain dance around my PC, nothing works at all. WTF. This thing used to work in Vista. Don't say i'm the only one who can't get this darn thing to even start working...
Giftmacher
02-25-2008, 05:13 PM
Tested the beta out on my Vista 64 system after reading about other people's success and I have to say I'm impressed. Especially liked the fact ATItool is signed by default... it really takes the headache out of installation/running.
I've not used ATItool to OC, only to test stability/for artefacts so far but it really seems to work well. (W1zzard recommended riva for nvidia card OCs for now.)
Anyway, something interesting I noted ATItool seems to rev the fan on my 8800GTS up and down, especially while searching for artefacts. I only mention it in passing because there's no option for fan control and yet it seems ATItool can alter the annoying 60% default fan speed set on my card. (Anyone else noticed this?).
I'd dearly love to see fan speed controls enabled for my card, as I don't like using rivatuner, but search as I might I can't find any mention of any plans to enable that functionality. Could someone let me know whether/if anything is on the cards? I spent a fair bit of time searching the forums yesterday but drew a blank.
Thanks,
Gift.
I can't get this junk to work since um forever. Kernel mode driver doesn't sem to be running yadidadida blablabla. This program is absolutelly totally useless under Vista (which is not even x64 !?!!??). Running in admin mode, copying sys files to system32 folder, performing rain dance around my PC, nothing works at all. WTF. This thing used to work in Vista. Don't say i'm the only one who can't get this darn thing to even start working...
Yes, you are the only one.
Solution: Another User. Ask a Shimpanse of your trust to aid you.
Tested the beta out on my Vista 64 system after reading about other people's success and I have to say I'm impressed. Especially liked the fact ATItool is signed by default... it really takes the headache out of installation/running.
I've not used ATItool to OC, only to test stability/for artefacts so far but it really seems to work well. (W1zzard recommended riva for nvidia card OCs for now.)
Anyway, something interesting I noted ATItool seems to rev the fan on my 8800GTS up and down, especially while searching for artefacts. I only mention it in passing because there's no option for fan control and yet it seems ATItool can alter the annoying 60% default fan speed set on my card. (Anyone else noticed this?).
I'd dearly love to see fan speed controls enabled for my card, as I don't like using rivatuner, but search as I might I can't find any mention of any plans to enable that functionality. Could someone let me know whether/if anything is on the cards? I spent a fair bit of time searching the forums yesterday but drew a blank.
Thanks,
Gift.
With your 8800GTS you will have to wait for a new release to use all other Atitool functions like Fan/Voltage control, Overclocking, Mem Timings aso...
For now the 8800 family users can only do as much as you, Temp Monitoring and Artifact Scanning.
We gotta wait for W1zzard pushing a new release, anybody know what he's on right now?
scoob
02-26-2008, 09:35 PM
So is this thing dead?
Or is W1zzard going to be releasing something a little more current?
That's the question, he hasn't posted in this thread since page 2!
Meanwhile I heard he has some trouble with a thing called "life", some may heard of, and some other things.
W1zz, give us feedback plz!
Giftmacher
02-27-2008, 11:53 AM
I expect he's a bit busy ;) There's probably a lot of demands on his time.
Anyway, just wanted to ask again, has anyone else noticed that ATItool seems to regulate 8800 fan speeds (even though it offers no method of altering them manually)? Just curious is all.
Gift.
jydie
02-28-2008, 05:54 PM
That's the question, he hasn't posted in this thread since page 2!
Meanwhile I heard he has some trouble with a thing called "life", some may heard of, and some other things.
I sure hope he is doing okay. His programs are awesome and I use them all the time. Yesterday, I was putting a gaming PC together for a buddy and had to use Rivatuner for fan control instead of ATITool. :( The latest beta version of ATITool does not seem to allow me to adjust the fan speed on the HD3850 yet.
I have to complain about the video card manufacturers setting extremely low fan speeds until the card hits 60 degrees or more... I prefer to have the GPU idle in the 40-45 degree range.
Teddy
02-29-2008, 06:44 PM
Unter Vista Ultimate X64 stellt mir die neue Beta nicht automatisch die Spannungen um beim wechsel der Profile?
habt ihr dies auch?
I have Problems with Vista X64, if i switch my Profiles AtiTool did not switch the Voltages.
i have One 2D Profil with 1,175V and a 3D profil with 1,425V.
X1900XT with AtiTool 0.27 Beta 3 and the newest Catalyst Driver on Vista Ultimate X64.
Unter Vista Ultimate X64 stellt mir die neue Beta nicht automatisch die Spannungen um beim wechsel der Profile?
habt ihr dies auch?
(...)
Benutzt Du "Driver-Level-Overclocking" (x1000 overclocking in settings)? Dann sollte es eigentlich automatisch hin und her wechseln, aber mit dem Nachteil, dass Du die 2D Einstellungen nicht beinflussen kannst.
Ansonsten ist denn bei "properties" der Profile ein Häkchen bei "Voltages"?
Teddy
02-29-2008, 09:38 PM
Häkchen ist drin für die Voltages ist drin
Häkchen für OC via Driver hab ich nicht drin.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/2320/unbenanntfv1.th.jpg (http://img259.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unbenanntfv1.jpg)
Probier's halt mal mit driver OC, dann musst Du auch keine verschiedenen Profile machen, nur eins für 3D als autostart Profil. Der schaltet dann trotzdem auf 2D volt/takt wie standard und bei 3D wird alles auf was Du eingestellt hast gesetzt. Beste Lösung, außer man will 2D untertakten z.B.
Teddy
03-01-2008, 07:01 PM
Also soll ich den Haken einfach bei ,
"Every Time ATI Tool is launched, laod Profile " Markieren und dort das "3D Profil" auswählen ?
Grüße,
TeDdY
Also soll ich den Haken einfach bei ,
"Every Time ATI Tool is launched, laod Profile " Markieren und dort das "3D Profil" auswählen ?
Grüße,
TeDdY
Jup, das ist etwas verwirrend am Anfang, aber Du wirst ja dann merken wie der Hase läuft.
Btw, who is this AllahIsGreat. It seems a bit random who he's thanking to, LOL
Teddy
03-01-2008, 07:10 PM
Dann sag ich schonmal Danke :),
Aber wenn ich den Haken setze kann ich keine Profile mehr erstellen wird immer 0mhz angezeigt -.-.
Heißt das das ich des Profil vorher erzeugen muss und danach in den Driver OC modus wechseln sollte?
hm mein System friert nun ein -.-.
Also muss ich wohl erst das Profil erstellen dann in den Modus wechseln.
p.s kann man das Ati Tool auch als reine Lüftersteuerung nutzen und das 2d 3d clock switching vom treiber?
Achso, nimm die Atitool.exe aus Post 140, seite 6 (exe von beta 1, lass beta 3 installiert) in diesem thread, wird alle deine Probleme lösen!
Natürlich kannst du das auch als Lüftersteuerung benutuen, settings->Fan control. Um das zu bekommen musste ich diesen exe-tausch eben machen und damit man die Spannungen ändern kann bei mir, auch.
jtibble
03-04-2008, 01:35 AM
I am extremely new to OCing, trying to get a few extra cycles out of my lappy's 8600m GT, and I can't seem to make the sliders on the 3D settings "stick," even after adjusting by 5-10mhz then setting the clock. They just revert to what they were at when the program started. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
John
I am extremely new to OCing, trying to get a few extra cycles out of my lappy's 8600m GT, and I can't seem to make the sliders on the 3D settings "stick," even after adjusting by 5-10mhz then setting the clock. They just revert to what they were at when the program started. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
John
You will have to wait for a new release of ATITool, I guess. It lacks GeForce 8 support, yet. Till then, U can try RivaTuner if u want.
jtibble
03-04-2008, 04:30 PM
Oh! Ok, thanks. I didn't know that.
SillyBilly
03-07-2008, 02:07 PM
I am using vesion 0.26. Do I need to uninstal this one before I install 0.27 Beta 3 , or will it take care of the upgrade by itself?
a4b_mercenary
03-08-2008, 06:34 AM
ok i have .27 beta 3 installed and i just installed ati drivers 8.3 and the tool is not working. any idea's? i have hd 3870. Thanks
SillyBilly
03-08-2008, 07:20 AM
I am using vesion 0.26. Do I need to uninstal this one before I install 0.27 Beta 3 , or will it take care of the upgrade by itself?
Do I uninstal before instaling the beta?
Richard Shepherdson
03-10-2008, 10:18 AM
I am using vesion 0.26. Do I need to uninstal this one before I install 0.27 Beta 3 , or will it take care of the upgrade by itself?
Just install new version it will detect old and remove it.
henriksweden
03-11-2008, 03:47 PM
someone who can help me? I Have a X2600Pro (HD2600pro), and when i start the program the computer is rebooting :S
StaSIC
03-11-2008, 06:53 PM
Hi, i have some problem with 2D/3D mode switcing. When i try to start ATItool, my computer show me this message
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5854/111ct9.jpg
i'm using driver version 8.3 and vista 32
and i cant overclock my card (X1900XTX) i think it's a driver problem, but how to fix this ???
Hi, i have some problem with 2D/3D mode switcing. When i try to start ATItool, my computer show me this message
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/5854/111ct9.jpg
i'm using driver version 8.3 and vista 32
and i cant overclock my card (X1900XTX) i think it's a driver problem, but how to fix this ???
You need to install CCC (Catalyst Control Center) with the Driver I guess.
If already, change the option for "Driver-Level Overclocking" in Settings->x1000 overclocking, and retry.
StaSIC
03-11-2008, 09:03 PM
I reinstal driver but the problem steel blowing up my mind and i check x1000 settings. but when i used XP everything was OK. perhaps this is a special video drivers for VISTA or security settings in vista. I have heard that several people have written about this problem, but didnt did not find the answer
I reinstal driver but the problem steel blowing up my mind and i check x1000 settings. but when i used XP everything was OK. perhaps this is a special video drivers for VISTA or security settings in vista. I have heard that several people have written about this problem, but didnt did not find the answer
Try replacing the ATITool.exe with the one from post #140 (from beta1) in this thread, leave b3 installed. It solved all trouble for x1950xt under Vista 32 and 64 for me. If u don't change 2D clocks, leave driver-level oc enabled, works best. Maybe it works for you, too.
Jimbo Mahoney
03-12-2008, 01:33 PM
Are there any plans to get memory timings adjustable on HD38xx series cards?
The clocking works great in this Beta, but the damn ATI BIOS clock lock on the GPU means I have to use a BIOS from another manufacturer, and all the ones I've tried give artifacts at stock memory clocks.
nickless
03-13-2008, 04:27 PM
Try replacing the ATITool.exe with the one from post #140 (from beta1) in this thread, leave b3 installed. It solved all trouble for x1950xt under Vista 32 and 64 for me. If u don't change 2D clocks, leave driver-level oc enabled, works best. Maybe it works for you, too.
I've tried this, but it doesn't work with my HD2900Pro under Vista x64:( Just show me the default settings 507/514 (with clear ATITool b3 before I replace the .exe file it show me 0/0 ) but I can't increase frecuency.
StaSIC
03-15-2008, 05:41 PM
Try replacing the ATITool.exe with the one from post #140 (from beta1) in this thread, leave b3 installed. It solved all trouble for x1950xt under Vista 32 and 64 for me. If u don't change 2D clocks, leave driver-level oc enabled, works best. Maybe it works for you, too.
Which version of video drivers are you using ???
Which version of video drivers are you using ???
I do this with my x1950xt, it works with all Catalyst versions under Vista 32 and 64 and WinXP 32 since Catalyst 7.x.
(activates Voltage Control, Fan Control and fixes some other things too).
With the 8800GT on the other PC, it doesn't help a bit changing the exe :(
So I can only Temp monitor for now, Rivatuner does the rest (Temp dependant Overclocking and Fan Control).
StaSIC
03-16-2008, 06:38 PM
I do this with my x1950xt, it works with all Catalyst versions under Vista 32 and 64 and WinXP 32 since Catalyst 7.x.
(activates Voltage Control, Fan Control and fixes some other things too).
With the 8800GT on the other PC, it doesn't help a bit changing the exe :(
So I can only Temp monitor for now, Rivatuner does the rest (Temp dependant Overclocking and Fan Control).
Thanks man, but can you write which version of video driver (Catalyst) and ati tool you are using right now with vista 32 on your PC ???
Thanks man, but can you write which version of video driver (Catalyst) and ati tool you are using right now with vista 32 on your PC ???
The Card is in my XP32 Server now with ATI Catalyst 8.2 58128 and all functions working.
MagnumMan
03-16-2008, 06:58 PM
With Catalyst 8.3 and a Radeon HD 3870 with an unlocked BIOS flashed in (830/1200 settings) when I try to set the clock with ATITool the screen goes black or checkerboard. Tried beta3. CCC is "lock" is still on for overclocking though, I will try opening that upa nd see if it helps.
Fresh Windows XP 64-Bit SP2 install. MSI K9A2 Platinum, Phenom CPU, 4x1gb mem. no other boards in the rig. Monitoring seems to work, it's just setting the clocks (and obvously the "find my max overclock" buttons don't work either because of this :< )
henriksweden
03-16-2008, 07:00 PM
i can't install Catalyst 8.3 "you don't have a compatible graphics card, you must cancel the setup to continue" is it said.
i can't install Catalyst 8.3 "you don't have a compatible graphics card, you must cancel the setup to continue" is it said.
Uninstall old drivers and make a clean reboot when it's on standard windows drivers and retry.
Or Maybe you downloaded the wrong version (32/64bit)?
henriksweden
03-16-2008, 07:11 PM
have done that thousands of times but it the same thing pop ups. Does it has something to do with MSI ?
have done that thousands of times but it the same thing pop ups. Does it has something to do with MSI ?
yes, it can be the Southbrige drivers or something, update all mobo drivers to the latest
Catwiesel
03-20-2008, 10:33 PM
Hi,
first lemme say thanks for ATI Tool, been using it now for ages (9700Pro, X800, x1950xt and now HD 3870)
My card is HIS ICEQ 3 HD3870 (not Turbo), Catalyst 8.3 driver and running on XP32
I'm running 0.27 Beta4
- GPU Temp working
- Temp of Temp Chip is showing GPU load in °C
- Fan speed is not showing ("0%")
(GPU-Z got GPU Temp, GPU Load and Fan Speed working like a charm.)
hope that helps to make ATITool even better with the new ATI cards (fan speed?). If you require more info like logs and stuff, u only need ask.
Catwiesel
fullinfusion
03-22-2008, 01:51 AM
Wile E you running a 8800gt or a ati 2900?
your system spec shows the gt....
What gives?
using riva tune is there a way to o/c the 2nd part of the card?
i can o/c the first but the setting for the 2nd isn't there...
I get 855 core and 1150 for the memory but i'd like to clock the second half of the ATI 3870 x2
Zak84
03-22-2008, 08:32 PM
Hi to all! :)
Is the development of separate games profile for AA and AF scheduled?
BYEZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
choppy
03-22-2008, 08:52 PM
will 9600gt / 9 series be supported anytime soon? i prefer to use atitool to OC gfx cos its the easiest way imo, im gettin a 9600gt in a while so i was wondering...
Carloser
03-22-2008, 10:42 PM
W1zzard I have to thank you for all your effort .....I am an Atitool user for a very long time,
then I wanted to post my findings with the the beta 3.
I have a Q6600, XP pro 32, Asus PK5E, 2GB G.Skill PC2-8500.
Well, when I installed Atitool 27Beta3, I din't have fan control at all, then I decided to modify or edit my 3850 bios ( I used ComputerBase atibiosedit-095beta ) and change only the fan speed ( I used 45 degees, 60% fan speed ), then used winflash2002 to save ( very important ) and load the modified bios and bingo, now you can hear the fan speeding up when you play a game and the card start to heat up, and no only that now I have fan control with Atitool 27beta3. When I load Atitool and play with the fan, you now can hear the fan.
I hope this help somebody and thanks again W1zzard.
eidairaman1
03-24-2008, 05:57 AM
just wanted to check in an all hows the progress of the program coming, does it work with all 1950 Pro cards (AGP/PCI Express) with 8.1 hotfix Drivers?
erocker
03-26-2008, 07:59 PM
It works on my x1950pro AGP 256mb. I use 0.27 beta 3. Just be sure to check the box that says X1000 series driver level...
eidairaman1
03-26-2008, 11:10 PM
ya ill probably go with the B4, once i do some internal system cleaning (Dusting/CPU heatsink swap with a Lapped TT BT, sealed and sinked PLL/VRMs)
henriksweden
03-28-2008, 10:02 AM
yes, it can be the Southbrige drivers or something, update all mobo drivers to the latest
haha. don't think it's going to happen. The moderboard can't find harddrives now :S not asingle working one :S
henriksweden
03-28-2008, 10:06 AM
With Catalyst 8.3 and a Radeon HD 3870 with an unlocked BIOS flashed in (830/1200 settings) when I try to set the clock with ATITool the screen goes black or checkerboard. Tried beta3. CCC is "lock" is still on for overclocking though, I will try opening that upa nd see if it helps.
Fresh Windows XP 64-Bit SP2 install. MSI K9A2 Platinum, Phenom CPU, 4x1gb mem. no other boards in the rig. Monitoring seems to work, it's just setting the clocks (and obvously the "find my max overclock" buttons don't work either because of this :< )
MSI are f/&##? up. I have the same problem, and it's some kind of overclocking lock installed on the card. You can't overclock it as much as catalyst shows. If you do that everything like will be like locked.:banghead:
fullinfusion
03-29-2008, 01:59 AM
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1416570618/bclid1416866883/bctid1413471452
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid1416570618/bclid1416866883/bctid1413471452
That guy is cool :laugh:
fullinfusion
03-29-2008, 02:41 AM
yeah i thought ya'll like it... :roll:
intelx38
04-01-2008, 03:23 AM
Hello ppl. New to this forum. I must say quite informative, and just confirming that the B4 AtiTool works on vista x64. Ran this on a 3870 with the TR HR-03 GT.
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee48/Peii_album/3870.jpg
ElAguila
04-02-2008, 05:44 PM
I have not heard anything in quite awhile so I was just wondering if anyone knew if ATITool was still being developed? I sure miss it but with Vista64 I have problems with it.
molitar
04-02-2008, 06:53 PM
I posted in the bug reports but have gotten no responses.. MSI Radeon HD 3870 OC version and when I try to set any clock speed or set anything besides monitoring the computer locks up.
qubit
04-02-2008, 11:12 PM
I have not heard anything in quite awhile so I was just wondering if anyone knew if ATITool was still being developed? I sure miss it but with Vista64 I have problems with it.
Yes, It's all gone rather stagnant, hasn't it?
Have you seen my thread (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=56041) proposing that AMD actually pay W1zzard to do a proper, polished and complete version of ATI Tool?
fullinfusion
04-03-2008, 06:02 PM
it's probably because you msi gpu is overclocked to the max already..
have you tried to crank up the fan speed to drop the temperature?
fullinfusion
04-05-2008, 02:18 AM
i found the program to successfully over clock both cores for the the ati 3870x2 card
http://rapidshare.com/files/100990709/AMDGPUClockTool.zip.html
fullinfusion
04-05-2008, 02:55 AM
also note that you must minimize the program and after you set both core clocks it will say o/c failed... no worries though just check your Riva tuner graphs and you'll see the core and memory are where you set it... Just be sure to crank up your fan speed to handle the extra heat... I'm off to try gears of war and i hope the low level stutter will be gone..
I hope amd fixes the low level problem with it's new driver... have seen that allot of amd fans are pissed over the problem of the gpu lowering the core and memory in certain parts of game play...
let me know how this program works for those that have tried it..
one other not... for those that never used rapid share and dont wanna pay to download take note of the timer... once it hits zero you'll be able to download:toast:
ElAguila
04-05-2008, 03:40 AM
The memory still lowers on one core for me. I think it has something to do with powerplay. There are some parts of games that switch to 2d and the card is switching to 2d speeds and then back to 3d instead of your oc. Right now the only way around it is to edit your bios and flash the card. It would be nice if the next set of drivers gave you the option to disable powerplay.
Spirou
04-07-2008, 09:40 PM
work, work, work, lotsa work, and no fun, but maybe later :)
Temperature of temp. chip is not showing a temperature but GPU-Load on HD3870 i guess.
My specs: Using 27b4, XP Pro, Catalyst 8.3, Sapphire HD 3870.
Reason: Watched the monitoring for a while and saw it switch immidiately upwards and downwards whenever load changes rapidly. None of the temps could ever go up to 99 degrees that fast, and also temps don't go down from 99 degrees to 1 degree in a second.
Now for something completely different:
Played around for a while with profiles in CCC and managed to set up all three states (2d, 3d low, 3d high) successfully by driver with edited profiles which are plain text files. So my HD3870 card switches between states and runs each of the three different settings properly like it's set to in my tweaked profile.
So maybe the settings interface with three pairs of sliders we saw in this thread could be enabled with ease? I dunno..
Another thing i'd like to mention: Some people want to get voltage control for rv670. Due to the fact that voltage control would be limited to a small range, it doesn't look useful in first sight, but it could be useful for anyone who is voltmodding. I'd like to lower my voltages by BIOS, just to raise it by pencil, to gain voltage control by software as soon as it's supported. I like the idea of switching between stock voltage and raised voltage.
Finally i want to say thank you for this great tool and all the work that you spent on it.
Trigger911
04-13-2008, 05:29 AM
Tried it on my XfX 8600gt on windows xp pro 32bit no go it does read temps tho. wish I whent ATI i swear by this tool haha. Riva tunner kinda blows.
orion23
04-14-2008, 12:06 AM
Hi!
I cannot get the 0.27 beta 4 version to work.
New machine, Vista Business SP1 32-bit, and ATITool won't run for me.
1st time I installed it, it gave me an error about the "kernel" driver not being loaded or something like that..
Uninstalled it a million times and now every time I install it, I don't get any errors but it still doesn't run. I just get the ATITool interface with 2 of the "sliders" and "0" values
I have run the BCedit disable Integrity check commands and nothing.
What am I missing here?
Thanks!
dark2099
04-17-2008, 04:03 AM
Just tried using this with the new Cat 8.4s, both on OC CPU and non-OC, and fresh format of windows thinking something messed it up, but every time I try to overclock the core, it will either freeze my system instantly and result in a BSOD with that ati2dvag error. Everything worked fine with the 8.3 Cats.
fullinfusion
04-17-2008, 05:05 AM
wow thats weird... im using the 3.4 cat and the o/c works great but then again im using vista... GO AMD GO!!! keep giving us the awsome drivers!:rockout:
dark2099
04-17-2008, 05:18 AM
thats very interesting
flashstar
04-17-2008, 05:30 AM
I'm using Server 2008 with 8.4 drivers and 2900xt and ATI Tool defaults to 2d clocks no matter what I change the settings to. Also, it won't let me move the clock slider.
What could be causing this?
Edit: Running it in Server 2003 compatibility mode has seemed to fix most of the problems...
kellottajaFIN
04-21-2008, 07:46 PM
Memory won't overclock, GPU clocks well, but memory doesn't. With XP, it worked but not anymore, now I am using Vista Ultimate 32bit sp1. The card is Club3d 6800GS PCI-e 256MB.
mdm-adph
04-22-2008, 04:42 PM
I just want to confirm this -- Catalyst 8.4 totally breaks ATITool 0.27beta3 for me, too. Tried to install several different times, clearing out settings and everything. No go -- freezes up any time you try to change clocks.
dcompiled
04-28-2008, 03:09 AM
I can't change the clocks or memory for my card. I'm using 32bit Vista Business with a Geforce 8800GTS Forceware 169.25. The clocks and temperature are displayed properly in the system tray and monitoring window.
swaaye
04-28-2008, 11:26 PM
Yeah, freezes with Cat 8.4 here too. R3850 512MB PCIe. Any changes to core clock causes a lock up. I have to flash the card to overclock it.
Just revert to older drivers and figure out your overclock. Then upgrade again.
Monkfish
04-29-2008, 02:17 PM
Well ATITools 2.7b2 was working for me under Vista, but since installing SP1 I've been getting zero clocks like some other people. 2.7b3 is the same. Strange. Maybe it's a permissions thing, although I've tried to run it as an administrator and set all user permissions for all the ATITool files. But that didn't do anything. I've uninstalled completely and reinstalled. No go. Something's gone screwy. As it was working, it must be a Vista quirk.
Single GeForce 8800 GTX and latest official Vista drivers.
I'm not so sure it's SP1 that's responsible now. Maybe it’s the fact that I recovered my Vista installation from a backup. I've uninstalled and reinstalled ATITools under Safe Mode and got the normal appearance with the six sliders back (only had two initially), but as soon as I press the SET button the sliders all reset to the default again. I'll persevere and see if I can get it back. Strange that it installed and worked okay the first time.
nflesher87
05-01-2008, 01:51 AM
not recognizing my 9800GTX :(
mspeedo
05-01-2008, 09:57 AM
Hi, i'm using ATITool 0.27b4 on my HD3650 and Vista SP1 (with Catalyst 8.4). Overclocking and temps works fine.. but i have problem with computer crashing. On average every fourth program startup, my computer totally crash (immediatelly shutdown). I dont' know what cause this crash, because mostly it's working, change of frequency works without problem, only at atitool startup it's sometimes cause computer crash :(
Monkfish
05-01-2008, 10:18 AM
Yes, my PC kept on crashing every other boot when I upgraded to SP1 with ATITools installed. I would normally advise uninstalling it before applying SP1, but as you may not get OC functionality back, it's a risky approach.
For me, there's definitely a difference between just installing ATITools and installing from Safe Mode. In Safe Mode I get the usual 6-sliders, but any overclock doesn't "stick". Installing normally only brings up two sliders and no default clocks. I'm sure this is all user account/permissions related, but I haven't been able to resolve it yet.
The only thing I haven't tried is to recover my Vista installation from before I installed ATITools, then upgrade to SP1 and then install ATITools. I might try that today. It might be that ATITools is doing something that an uninstall doesn't fully reverse. If the above works, then I might try completely uninstalling ATITools and my video card drivers on my current Vista installation. Then reinstalling my video card drivers, then reinstalling ATITools. I’ve already tried over-installing my video card drivers, but that didn’t work.
Monkfish
05-01-2008, 03:59 PM
Okay, I've got it working. I had to Uninstall ATITool, re-enable UAC, install 0.27b2 and reboot. I could then disable UAC without affecting ATITool. However, doing the same procedure with 0.27b3 didn't work. I still ended up with it not accepting anything other than the default clocking.
I should add that I'm using the latest NVIDIA WHQL Vista drivers on my G80, so maybe the G80 incompatibility mentioned at the top of this thread isn't confined to non-WHQL drivers.
Monkfish
05-02-2008, 01:56 PM
Warning. Although I got ATITool working, it produced spurious results in 3DMark Vantage. I had to reinstall the NVIDIA drivers to get back the correct performance, but this screwed up ATITool again. I just can't recommend ATITool for a G80 card under Vista at present. God knows what it's doing to the drivers to yield a significant performance drop in some Vantage tests but not others.
I blame NVIDIA for not being a little more forthcoming with pertinent register data. NVIDIA might produce great graphics cards, but they're still basically a mean-spirited unpleasant company.
Maybe Wiz can interogate the new EVGA tool for overclocking and see what they're doing. That seem to work fine under Vista.
carrot1401
05-04-2008, 12:23 PM
Ello, I'm a bit new here.
Anyahoot, I've got a Gecube 3870xt OC edition thingamigid that would overclock happily in XP 32bit. Finally got round to getting Vista, and everytime I try to set clocks it resets them straight back to 810/1125. On XP I was happily doing 850/1187 or something similar, but like I said as soon as I 'Set Clock' it resets back down.
I do know that the Gecube edition does come with a modified bios, but it was fine on XP. I'm using 8.4 drivers. If I can help in anyway do give me a shout :)
EDIT: Vista 64-bit ultimate edition, and this is with 0.27 beta 3. 0.26 came up with something about a digitally signed driver (????) and just wouldn't work at all :p
HD3DCG
05-13-2008, 07:36 AM
well i don't know if this helps anyone working on this but... havn't been able to change clocks on 3870 with vista 64 ultimate(with cat 8.3 or 8.4)
...here's the log after i tried to change them
2008-05-13 01:06:46 D Successfully connected to driver, version 150
2008-05-13 01:06:46 D Found ATI device: 0x1002 0x0000 bus 1 dev 0
2008-05-13 01:06:46 D GPU model: RV670 XT
2008-05-13 01:06:46 D fbPhy: 0xD0000000, mmrPhy: 0xFE9F0000.
2008-05-13 01:06:46 D mmapped mmr to 0x3F0000
2008-05-13 01:06:46 D RV6xx internal temp chip detection: success
2008-05-13 01:06:46 D Device initialized successfully
2008-05-13 01:06:54 E Could not read PP table size
2008-05-13 01:06:54 E Could not set read driver clock table.
2008-05-13 01:06:54 I Clocks set to: 776.00 / 1125.00
2008-05-13 01:07:15 E Could not read PP table size
2008-05-13 01:07:15 E Could not set read driver clock table.
2008-05-13 01:07:15 I Clocks set to: 776.00 / 1125.00
Monkfish
05-13-2008, 01:11 PM
Ello, I'm a bit new here.
Use EVGA Precision OC tool under Vista if you can (all you have to do is register on their website to download it).
LINK (http://www.evga.com/articles/405.asp)
djisas
05-17-2008, 06:20 PM
i wonder if W1zzard wil create a new version for the upcoming gpus and previous not supported ones...
i wonder if W1zzard is still alive :confused:
djisas
05-17-2008, 11:54 PM
he probably got himself a life, we should think on getting one too...
eidairaman1
05-18-2008, 02:43 AM
to you guys who are wondering, he only appears late at night early morning for the US on MSN. Like all others he does have a Life, cant be running this site 24/7, he does enough by providing news along with the other mods.
2Xtream4u
05-22-2008, 06:26 PM
This has propably been asked already, BUT since its my first post i figure i can get away with it :rockout:
Im using ATI2900 XT, using Ati tool 27b3 Windows vista X32 and everytime i change the core and mem and hit set clock but it just changes right back to normal and just doesnt seem to wanna clock :(
Please help :)
That's why we wonder where he is, many seem to have probs with that Card and 27b3 at least. Try older versions, as described in previous posts. Sometimes it does the trick, f.ex. 1950XT works best with 27b3 installed and atitiool.exe replaced by the one from beta 1, but it doesnt help on your card, if i remember right.
sadisticflirt
05-22-2008, 11:31 PM
http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=60927
djisas
05-23-2008, 06:03 PM
This has propably been asked already, BUT since its my first post i figure i can get away with it :rockout:
Im using ATI2900 XT, using Ati tool 27b3 Windows vista X32 and everytime i change the core and mem and hit set clock but it just changes right back to normal and just doesnt seem to wanna clock :(
Please help :)
Feed your gfx!!
I had the same problem until i bought a new psu...
sadisticflirt
05-23-2008, 07:34 PM
lame :( have to wait till beta 4 I guess
Yeah, when will that be? Any talks of an updated version of ATI Tool? I cannot set my clocks with it and the fan control seems to be off...
fullinfusion
05-23-2008, 08:24 PM
Yeah, when will that be? Any talks of an updated version of ATI Tool? I cannot set my clocks with it and the fan control seems to be off...
use riva tuner for the fan control and this program to clock both cores on the 3870x2 gpu's
http://rapidshare.com/files/100990709/AMDGPUClockTool.zip.html
near the top of the program it shows DEVICE and just select using the arrow on the right to select the other core.../change them to whatever you want and apply settings... a msg pops up saying clock failed... don't worrie it always says that.. then select the next core and enter the same settings and your good to go /note the clocks reset after you reboot... also you must right click and run as Admin... you can use it on the single 3870 cards as well http://img.techpowerup.org/080523/ah.jpg
2Xtream4u
05-24-2008, 01:32 AM
Feed your gfx!!
I had the same problem until i bought a new psu...
dude i have a 750psu i dont think thats the case + on xp it seemd to clock just fine :(
one other question, if its clocked should it show that its say 800mb or will it always just show the 512 ?
djisas
05-24-2008, 09:40 PM
maybe your ati tool is not configured properly, for the oc to work, ati tool must override ati's automatic 2d/3d clock modifier or whatever i forgot what it called, and even if your psu is 750w if u dont plug an 8pin cable u wont go further, if it has then u must configure ati tool properly...
I know it well cause i had one as i mentioned before and i could only oc after plugging in the 8 pin, the clocks would revert to 500MHz...
2Xtream4u
05-24-2008, 11:10 PM
maybe your ati tool is not configured properly, for the oc to work, ati tool must override ati's automatic 2d/3d clock modifier or whatever i forgot what it called, and even if your psu is 750w if u dont plug an 8pin cable u wont go further, if it has then u must configure ati tool properly...
I know it well cause i had one as i mentioned before and i could only oc after plugging in the 8 pin, the clocks would revert to 500MHz...
Hummm, the 6 pin ones seemd to work ok for XP tho i used to be able to clock to 800 which seemd fine. if my psu doesnt have the connectors can i just buy ones to add onto my psu ?
Cause i looked up on psus with the the 8pins and your talkin about 140/160£ and i cant aint got it atm :(
2Xtream4u
05-25-2008, 12:17 AM
maybe your ati tool is not configured properly, for the oc to work, ati tool must override ati's automatic 2d/3d clock modifier or whatever i forgot what it called, and even if your psu is 750w if u dont plug an 8pin cable u wont go further, if it has then u must configure ati tool properly...
I know it well cause i had one as i mentioned before and i could only oc after plugging in the 8 pin, the clocks would revert to 500MHz...
Actualy PSU seems to turn out to be a 650w so i think a new psu might be on the card.... How gay
djisas
05-25-2008, 02:08 AM
if u can find the adapter it might do the trick...
650w should be more than your system can draw, unless u have lots of hardware and u feel its about time to get something better...
2Xtream4u
05-25-2008, 04:49 AM
if u can find the adapter it might do the trick...
650w should be more than your system can draw, unless u have lots of hardware and u feel its about time to get something better...
Dunno wether my PSU is actualy handling it, because a few times i have seen it say something about the gfx not being supported by power or something along those lines. but its only shown up once or twice on xp it showd up when i went over 850core.
is there anyway to see how much power im using? in total to work out wether i need a new psu ?
djisas
05-25-2008, 12:54 PM
its only the 8 pin missing trust me...
try this http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/
2Xtream4u
05-26-2008, 01:48 AM
its only the 8 pin missing trust me...
try this http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/
They seem to be avaible in the us but not the uk :/ How gay is that!
That site doesnt load dude.
Thewli
05-26-2008, 01:50 AM
I run this version and I cannot watch movies in VLC, the window just goes black. The sound is working. Also, I cannot start games lika CS:S, the screen just goes black and the game isn't responding.
This only occurs when I'm running ATI-Tool. If I close it, it works fine.
No mat