Socket A Club

[3991vhtes]

The old one got deleted...

This is a hangout for all Socket A users. Or ex-users. I hope this will be a good place to chat about Socket A

To join, you must meet these requirements:

* Owned at least ONE Socket 462 system


Members:


3991vhtes

newtekie1
[I.R.A.]_FBi
Darknova
Cuzza
Wayward
rhythmeister
candle_86
InnocentCriminal
Craigleberry
KBD
pagalms



Enjoy the club!
http://www.hothardware.com/reviews/images/amd_xp2100/thumbs/athlon_xp_logo.jpg http://www.logitech.com/lang/images/0/1788.jpg

[JrRacinFan]

This is a hangout for all Socket A users. Or ex-users. I hope this will be a good place to chat about Socket A

To join, you must meet these requirements:

* Owned at least ONE Socket 462 system


Members:

newtekie1
[I.R.A.]_FBi
Darknova
Cuzza
Wayward
rhythmeister
candle_86
InnocentCriminal
Craigleberry
KBD
pagalms
InnocentCriminal
TomCat44


Enjoy the club!


The Socket A overclocks:

3991vhtes -Athlon XP-M 2600+ Barton @ 3.19GHz
Ketxxx -XP-M @ 2.55GHz
candle_86 -Sempron 3000 @ 2.4Ghz
JrRacinFan -Sempron 2400+ w/ L5 bridge mod @ 2.25Ghz
jeepdriver- Rig #1- Athlon XP 3000@2.16GHz
eidairaman1 -Athlon XP-M 2500+@ 2.25Ghz
Socket A Rig Gallery:

3991vhtes' Rig: Vote here!!! (http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/1456.html)
KBD @ post #155: Link! (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=681963&postcount=155)
pagalms @ post #181: Link! (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=720334&postcount=181)
Craigleberry @ post #200: Link! (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=724031&postcount=200)
eidairaman1 @ post #204: Link! (http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=724183&postcount=204)

[3991vhtes]

Hopefully this can be as good as it was before it was deleted. If not better! :)

[3991vhtes]

Eh, I guess no one has anymore interest in the Socket A club :(

[newtekie1]

I'll join the Socket A club. I still have socket A machines. 2 Athlon XP 2900+ and 2 Sempron 2600+ and an Athlon 3000+.

[hat]

My dad's machine is socket A.

[Ketxxx]

I owned me several 462 systems. This was my best one;

XP-M @ 2.55GHz
2x512MB PC3200
Abit AN7
SonicFury 5.1
9800Pro

I still miss it.

[3991vhtes]

What was the PR Rating on the XP-M?

I had my Athlon XP-M 2600+ Barton @ 3.19GHz on an Abit AN7. 266*12

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

why did it get deleted?

btw im contemplating this for my socket a rig, comments?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371003

[3991vhtes]

Thermo accidently deleted it I guess....

I heard the basiq power supplys are junky..

[panchoman]

i think the basiq is one of those series from antec, (like the smartpower series) for antec, you want earthwatts, neohe, quattros

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

on a tight tight budget and i neded a psu, recommendations?

[3991vhtes]

I like the SmartPower Series. I've used a recalled version for months and it still works :D
(According to my friend who borrowed it and never returned it)

[3991vhtes]

Oh noes. I was just overclocking, and Set the VCore to 2.3volts, and the board doesn't POST anymore :cry:

I've tried clearing CMOS, but that doesn't do me any good... :(

Abit AN7
Athlon XP-M 2600+
256MB PC2700
SAPPHIRE Radeon 9600pro

[panchoman]

ouchy... open up the system and check the chip for obvious signs of it getting fried

[newtekie1]

I've had mixed dealings with the Smartpower series. I was using an Antec case that came with the Smartpower 350w for my basic machine I would build for people, I have had a few fail, so I wouldn't recommend them, but I wouldn't completely avoid them if needed. I hear the Basiq series is even worse than the Smartpower series though.

For a cheap 350w power supply I would go with an FSP power supply.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104901

That is not only cheaper, but has better Amps on the 12v rails. FSP/Fortron make very dependable power supplies.

[panchoman]

fsp makes great psu's, smart powers.. stay away from, if basiqs are like smartpowers, then STAY AWAY!!!

[3991vhtes]

Ok well this isn't a Power supply thread....

Plz change topic..

[panchoman]

haha true, transfer this either to the psu guide or to the other psu thread that i just came from lol

[3991vhtes]

ouchy... open up the system and check the chip for obvious signs of it getting fried

My core is extremely reddish-bronze, and that's a sign of severe heat...

Me thinks I should of used thermal compound....

[panchoman]

My core is extremely reddish-bronze, and that's a sign of severe heat...

Me thinks I should of used thermal compound....

me thinks too as well

so sorry for the loss man

[JrRacinFan]

No thermal compound!!! Not good .....

[3991vhtes]

I'll have to see if the chip is still good. Good thing its a mobile CPU, so I can test it in a laptop later tonight :D

[3991vhtes]

No thermal compound!!! Not good .....

I was running Ceramique, but I changed heatsinks, and wiped it all off and I didn't have any laying around. :banghead:

[panchoman]

chances are, if your core changed color, its fried
oh btw:http://youtube.com/watch?v=NxNUK3U73SI
if it looks like the 3rd cpu there, im gonna put my money on a fried cpu

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

i want to get my server back up.

[3991vhtes]

What kind of server was it? Web, File, Gaming?

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

file server over teh web, windows home server.

[3991vhtes]

Ahh, I see...

You really should look into a Athlon MP instead of an XP. MP's were designed for servers and such.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

have to work with what i have, the "beauty" of a third world country.

[Grings]

Ahh, I see...

You really should look into a Athlon MP instead of an XP. MP's were designed for servers and such.

mp's were designed for dual processor

[3991vhtes]

Actully, they can be for single or dual CPU server setups.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athlon_XP_microprocessors#Server_CPU

[Grings]

the multi chip support is the only thing different about them, i actually modded a pair of thoroughbred-b's into mp's once, it's only a pair of bridges that need joining, everything else about the chips is identical
the point is however, is there would be absolutely no benefit to the swap whatsoever

[3991vhtes]

Well I was told that MP's were for servers and business workstations.

[JrRacinFan]

It's only a small change, 3991. The MP's are just a small minute core feature that is enabled.

You can take "anything" that's Tbred-B/Barton (Sempron's AND Athlons) based and with a small bridge mod you can put 2 of them together in a dual socket motherboard that supports it's rated FSB.

[3991vhtes]

w00t my CPU is still good!!! :D:D:D

Guess something got locked in the BIOS, to where it won't reset even after clearing CMOS. I need a new BIOS for the board. Yee haw!

[Darknova]

Just rebuilt my old Athlon XP rig :D

Athlon XP 2600, 1Gb DDR400, ATi Radeon 9600LE.

Just bought an Antec NSK4000 case and it's frigging awesome. Seriously it's the best case I've ever bought for less than £50 (it was less than £20 lol).

[3991vhtes]

Can you post pics :p

[Darknova]

Can you post pics :p

Going to have to wait until the weekend but yeah sure. My dad's taken to taking the digital camera away to work with him -_-

[spud107]

might be back lol, got a barton 2500+ system with 1gb ram and geforce fx5200 for nowt:)
still getting it up n running . . .

[3991vhtes]

w00t, want to be re-added? (I've been re-adding ppl that were in the club)

[spud107]

wait until i get this mobo sorted,
seems i to have to reset the bios every time i power on, bein a bit weird, new battery didnt fix it,

[3991vhtes]

Strange....have you made sure the new battery isn't dead?

[spud107]

aye, its a gigabyte ga-7va rev:2
might try bios flash if i can boot it up again,
http://img.techpowerup.org/071205/Image(59).jpg

[JrRacinFan]

May be bad nvram spud.

[Woah Mama!]

I'm sorry to tell you I will no longer be using any socket A machines as of this time next week. This sucker is going straight on eBay as soon as my last bits for my 'new' rig get here.

Hasta la vista 462!

[Cuzza]

It got deleted? Bugger. Oh well, a new one is all good. I'd have joined earlier but I've not been around these forums much in the last couple of weeks, had weekends away and then I got sick and yeah, my life is pretty hectic right now. By my standards anyway. But yeah, sign me up again.

I'm selling my socket A machine soon (and my other one for that matter), disappointing to see it go but I need all the cash I can get before I leave the country. I'd do a for sale thread on here but it's not worth the shipping charges for you guys to buy from me!

[3991vhtes]

I'm going to bring the Socket A back to life, I've been an inactive Socket 462'er, but now, I'm building a new Socket A rig... :rockout:

I'll get specs soon :)

[Woah Mama!]

I'm going to bring the Socket A back to life, I've been an inactive Socket 462'er, but now, I'm building a new Socket A rig... :rockout:

I'll get specs soon :)

I will have a shitload of parts to sell next week. If you dont want to spend a heap of money on decent DDR I have matching new G.skills 512mb that are sweet... and etc.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

im getting acheep generic 400 watter!

[3991vhtes]

I will have a shitload of parts to sell next week. If you dont want to spend a heap of money on decent DDR I have matching new G.skills 512mb that are sweet... and etc.

I'd hit it!

There's only a problem, AUS $ is different than the USD $, plus shipping would probably be outrageous.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

400W free brand new PSU here

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

server is up!

http://uptwn.homeserver.com

[JrRacinFan]

IRA, Requires a login: Are you only letting certain people use it?

[spud107]

that mobo seems to be dead, ah well, got some spare parts now, case is not bad once cleaned up, might sell these if i cant find a use for em
2x 512 ddr333
2500 barton +hsf
fx5200 128mb

[cdawall]

clock the holy hell outta the FX5200 andset hwbot records with it

[Darknova]

Ok so I'm actually at a loss for what to do with my XP rig.

Bear in mind I don't give a damn about benchmark records or anything like that. So no suggestions about hwbot, or leaving it folding 24/7.

[spud107]

clock the holy hell outta the FX5200 andset hwbot records with it
its currently gettin a socket a hsf attached to it:)
wonder how it'll do when attached to my x2? . . .

[cdawall]

yea and overvolt it

[spud107]

got any pics of some mods for it? this pcb has the memory all on gpu side, if thats any help,

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

What the hell? Why do clubs keep getting deleted?

[3991vhtes]

Because the mods don't care about clubs...

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Then they should just kill the club forums then.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

IRA, Requires a login: Are you only letting certain people use it?
trying to tie up security issues first

[3991vhtes]

Then they should just kill the club forums then.

They should too..and move the not spam clubs to the appropriate forum (ie, this would be in Processors and Cooling), and all the spam, topic-less can be thrown in GN, and locked :)

[JrRacinFan]

_FBi;563141']trying to tie up security issues first

Ahhh, good to go man!

[Cuzza]

Check out my Socket A for sale on TradeMe:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=131047480

[spud107]

5200 mod is done, will try to test later,
http://img.techpowerup.org/071210/Image(61).jpg

[JrRacinFan]

:eek:

OMG! Does the ram on the card also meet up with that heatsink?

[spud107]

if i find some sort of pads or something to put between em it would,
http://img.techpowerup.org/071210/Image(62)868.jpg

[JrRacinFan]

Little bit of AS5?

[spud107]

its about 1mm gap so i need something else to fill that,
an bout 4mm between the 2 on top,
its gonna have an akasa amber 80mm blowing full whack on it too
then theres the 250mm on the side of case . . .

[Wayward]

I'd like to join. I missed the first club, but I should join now that it's back. :)

My first system build was a AthlonXP Barton 2500+ back in 2003. Since then I've built at least a dozen Socket A machines, and I still have one. I'm going to loan it to a friend who needs a file server next week, but it's still technically mine.

That said, I have an AthlonXP Barton 2500+ with an unlocked multiplier sitting here. I'm considering selling it, as it is one heck of a clocker. Any ideas what it's worth? :)

[cdawall]

got any pics of some mods for it? this pcb has the memory all on gpu side, if thats any help,

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=30238

[Darknova]

Ok so I'm actually at a loss for what to do with my XP rig.

Bear in mind I don't give a damn about benchmark records or anything like that. So no suggestions about hwbot, or leaving it folding 24/7.

Well?

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

WHS is dah bomb, i can WOL my PC and acess it remotely.

[rhythmeister]

Let me in! I have a mint Soltek Qbic EQ3702a (NF2 IGP chipset) here with 2Gb of OCZ platinum PC3200, an 80GB master and 250GB slave in there! 6800 series cards don't run in it even with a 250W psu with 14A on the 12V rail unfortunately :(

[jeepdriver]

Just to let ya know, there are some socket A users out there.
Rig #1- Athlon XP 3000@2.16GHz
Azza KT400 mobo
1.5G Crucial DDR pc2700
2x Seagate 120G harddrives- raid 1
AIW 9000 Pro AGP
Alienware case from early 2001
Sony DRU-510 DVD burner
This machine runs 24/7

#2 - Athlon XP 1900@ 1.2GHz
mobo- not sure, bought it on e-bay for $10.00
512meg sdram
10gig harddrive from an old IBM with ubuntu 6.06 installed
160gig WD harddrive with ubuntu 7.04 installed
generic cd drive
case- stripped down bare chassis from IBM
evga fx5500 pci vid card
This one also runs 24/7

Have 4 more rigs, but , these are the only 2 Socket A's

[cdawall]

Well?

fold!

and this is filler since i cant have one word replys due to the knew forum rules

[Darknova]

fold!

and this is filler since i cant have one word replys due to the knew forum rules

Didn't read my post did you? :P

[Wayward]

That is one sweet mod, spud107. Let us know how far you can push that thing. :)

[spud107]

not alot without needin to cool the mem too, my board goes from 1.5-1.85 for agp,
will prob try pushin it if/when i pick up another mb,
its was quite painful lookin at the fps in atitool compared to the x1950

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

my tv card died! so i dont think ill be able tog et that agp card i wanted :(

[Cuzza]

Fuck it my stuff only made $60 at auction! torn apart.

[3991vhtes]

ur socket a stuff? damn dude, that sucks. :(

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

my sister wants back teh socket a rig, wants to give me back teh celeron .... nnooooOOOOoooOOOOOooooo

[3991vhtes]

Lol that is teh sux0rz

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

i no wanty celeron

[3991vhtes]

I don't blame you, celeron's are crap compared to a Athlon XP.

[JrRacinFan]

Wtf? Don't dis da celeron! Celeron FTW! :p

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

478 celerons are junk.

[JrRacinFan]

Meh, could be worse.

Could be running an "Athlon 64 3400+ 2.4Ghz Stock "Venice" Socket 939"....

LMAO

[3991vhtes]

_FBi;576023']478 celerons are junk.

Yeah...

Jr, isn't yours a 775?

[Darknova]

Meh, could be worse.

Could be running an "Athlon 64 3400+ 2.4Ghz Stock "Venice" Socket 939"....

LMAO

Erm....not compared to a 478 celeron LOL. That's bloody awesome, just overclock the badboy to 2.6-2.8Ghz :P

[wiak]

<- still got a Socket A mb, Athlon XP 2400+ ^^

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

exactly .. i went from a PIII 800MHz to that and i could not tell the difference.

how much better (or worse) is a AMD Sempron 64 3000+ compared to teh socket A i have now?

[JrRacinFan]

@ 3991

You are correct sir!

@ Darknova

I was just kidding, I wouldn't mind overclocking that Venice core at all. As matter of fact, I have been thinking of going phenom, but that's all dependent on retail cost of release of Wolfdales.

[3991vhtes]

You are correct sir!


Thought so.

[3991vhtes]

I wish everyone in my club a merry christmas :toast:

[Wayward]

I wish everyone in my club a merry christmas :toast:

Thank you good sir. And to you as well. :toast:

[JrRacinFan]

Merry Christmas to you as well 3991!

[3991vhtes]

Happy new year every1 in the Socket A club! :toast:

[JrRacinFan]

Feliz año nuevo

[Darknova]

Happy New Year. MAy all your Socket A's be useful for yet another year!

[3991vhtes]

I traded my Socket A CPU for a case.... For my socket 370 system

[Darknova]

I traded my Socket A CPU for a case :(

Traitor! Get out! lol.

[3991vhtes]

I feel guilty now. lol.

[Darknova]

I feel guilty now. lol.

You're a disappointment :P

[3991vhtes]

:(

[JrRacinFan]

I traded my Socket A CPU for a case.... For my socket 370 system

Nooooooooo !!!!

All life as we know it has ended. We are now doomed! And on a serious note ......



Why?

[3991vhtes]

Because I NEEDED a case, and didn't see the point in leaving my mobo out in the open.

[cdawall]

Because I NEEDED a case, and didn't see the point in leaving my mobo out in the open.

bah silly all u need is a carboard box with some holes poked in it!

[3991vhtes]

I don't have any cardboard, or boxes :S

[3991vhtes]

Woohoo! Got some cardboard! Now to make me a case for my AN7 Overclocker! w00t!

How, exactly, do I do it? I failed miserably last time:o

[strick94u]

my Dad still has my old 462 running flawless with a 9800 ati card that pc is bullet proof.
offered him my project 939 and he said no :)

[3991vhtes]

Would you like to join, strick94u?

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

in heres been dead

[JrRacinFan]

Where you go 3991?

[3991vhtes]

I'm right here :D

There is currently no Socket 462 stories, as I've moved on.... After I get my AN7 fixed, another CPU, and a new cooling unit, I'll go back.

[JrRacinFan]

Mmmk, Just disappointed to see this club going to the gutters. BTW, I have 2 256 PC133 sticks, Anyone have a K7S5A and a duron chip they don't want anymore? :p

[3991vhtes]

Isn't the K7S5A an ECS board?

[JrRacinFan]

Yes but you would be surprised as it was the king budget overclocking board for Socket A.

[3991vhtes]

Hmm..I heard that ECS wasn't a good overclocker in general...maybe they made an exception for that board>???

[JrRacinFan]

Their Socket A days weren't too too bad.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

they went downhill after socket 7

[candle_86]

well well well.

Ive owned many a socket A's a Duron 900, Athlon 1000C, Athlon 1400B, XP1600, XP1700, XP1800, XP1900 XP2600, Sempron 2200, Sempron 3000

Duron I got to 1.1
Athlon 1400B to 1.56
XP1600 to 1.7
XP2600 to 2.3
Sempron 2200 to 2.0
Sempron 3000 to 2.4

[JrRacinFan]

@ IRA
Exactly ...

@Candle

Out of those what would you say is the best OC?

[candle_86]

Mmmk, Just disappointed to see this club going to the gutters. BTW, I have 2 256 PC133 sticks, Anyone have a K7S5A and a duron chip they don't want anymore? :p

hehe, I got a 1400B that I think is dead, your welcome to it

[candle_86]

@ IRA
Exactly ...

@Candle

Out of those what would you say is the best OC?

the Sempron 3000 stock 1.8

I loved that Barton core

[3991vhtes]

Yeah, the bartons are nice cores :toast:

Wanna join the club?

[candle_86]

why not lol

[3991vhtes]

Added you to the list :toast:

[cdawall]

i founded i 1400 MP :D anyone have a spare mobo they want to send me?

[3991vhtes]

You could always send me that CPU :toast:

[JrRacinFan]

Just say no cdawall! LOL ....

:p @ 3991

[candle_86]

lol i got one, not sure it works, yours for 10 bucks man, i pulled it outta a case i wanted, the comp shop said untested.

[candle_86]

delete

[JrRacinFan]

To add to your comment, candle. Applebred's have a good success rate of unlocking the extra cache. After you do they perform like a barton but don't overclock as high with it.

[candle_86]

I think we need something so ill make it it LD


AMD Duron Processors
Spitfire 180nm

L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
L2-Cache: 64 KiB, fullspeed
MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!
Socket A (EV6)
Front side bus: 100 MHz (200 MT/s)
VCore: 1.50 V - 1.60 V
First release: June 19, 2000
Clockrate: 600 MHz - 950 MHz


Morgan 180nm

L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
L2-Cache: 64 KiB, fullspeed
MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
Socket A (EV6)
Front side bus: 100 MHz (200 MT/s)
VCore: 1.75 V
First release: August 20, 2001
Clockrate: 900 MHz - 1300 MHz


Applebred 130nm

L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
L2-Cache: 64 KiB, fullspeed
MMX, Extended MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
Socket A (EV6)
Front side bus: 133 MHz (266 MT/s)
VCore: 1.5 V
First release: August 21, 2003
Clockrate: 1400 MHz - 1800 MHz



AMD Athlon Processors
Thunderbird 180nm

L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
L2-Cache: 256 KiB, fullspeed
MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!
Slot A, Socket A (EV6)
Front side bus: 100/133 MHz (200/266 MT/s)
VCore: 1.7 V - 1.75 V
First release: June 5, 2000
Clockrate: 650 MHz - 1000 MHz, 600 MHz -1400 MHz, 1000 MHz - 1400 MHz (SlotA, B Model, C Model)



AMD AthlonXP Processors
Palomino 180nm

L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
L2-Cache: 256 KiB, fullspeed
MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
SSocket A (EV6)
Front side bus: 133 MHz (266 MT/s)
VCore: 1.75 V
First release: October 9, 2001
Clockrate: 1333 MHz - 1733 MHz


Thoroughbred A 130nm

L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
L2-Cache: 256 KiB, fullspeed
MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
SSocket A (EV6)
Front side bus: 133 MHz (266 MT/s)
VCore: 1.5 - 1.65 V
First release: June 10, 2002
Clockrate: 1400 MHz - 1800 MHz


Thoroughbred B 130nm

L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
L2-Cache: 256 KiB, fullspeed
MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
SSocket A (EV6)
Front side bus: 133/166 MHz (266/333 MT/s)
VCore: 1.5 - 1.65 V
First release: August 21, 2002
Clockrate: 1400 MHz - 2250 MHz


Thorton 130nm

L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
L2-Cache: 256 KiB, fullspeed
MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
SSocket A (EV6)
Front side bus: 133/166/200 MHz (266/333/400 MT/s)
VCore: 1.5 - 1.65 V
First release: September 2003
Clockrate: 1600 MHz - 2133 MHz


Barton 130nm

L1-Cache: 64 + 64 KiB (Data + Instructions)
L2-Cache: 512 KiB, fullspeed
MMX, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE
SSocket A (EV6)
Front side bus: 166/200 MHz (333/400 MT/s)
VCore: 1.65 V
First release: February 10, 2003
Clockrate: 1833 MHz - 2333 MHz

[3991vhtes]

Nice!

[candle_86]

lol np, just some basic info, also Socket A Semprons use the ThroughbredB, Thorton, and Barton cores so look at the AXP for sempron refrance.

[Craigleberry]

Wow this is a very handy club. I have been getting some older hardware together and am down to looking for the CPU. Here is what I have so far.
Corsiar XMS 3200C2 1GB (2x512MB) DDR400 CAS 2-3-3-6 BH5
DFI LANPARTY NFII ULTRA B - Skt A
9800 Pro

It is a comp for my son who is only 7 years old but will need it for games and homework.. Eventually. ( Plus it gives me an excuse to O/C another PC)

What CPU should I get? I want to O/C it.

[KBD]

I still got a socket A rig, that i had from about 2002, it was my main system till i put together my current PC. It is a Duron Morgan 1.3 Ghz (never OCed it) with a XFX 361BS Mach 4, VIA KLE133 Chipset mobo, 768 MB of Kingston Value PC133 SDRAM, 20 gig IBM HD, Radeon X1300 PCI vid card and SB Live! Value 5.1 PCI sound card.

So what happened to this club? Is it dead?

[JrRacinFan]

Well,

It is still alive I just dont have much time on my hands to maintain it that well. Since 3991's been banned, it's not been a very popular club.

Thank you for the bump though. Also, that was a pretty kickin' rig you had a few years ago! I like it!

[KBD]

Too bad, i guess i could still join though, right? Reminisce about the good ol' Socket A days, may be even overclock this old horse for the fun of it, that sorta thing. BTW i still got this old rig, it's sitting in my closet collecting dust, i haven't powered it up for almost 10 months. It did serve me well for a long time though, i should prolly get it out and take some pics and post em here, if anyone is still interested in this of course.

[JrRacinFan]

Oh of course you can join.

Sure throw us a few pics, I can include a link to the post in my overclock leaderboard! ;)

[KBD]

Yep, sure thing, just gotta get it cleaned up a bit, so should be done some time soon. I just want to make its ok to post em in this thread, i know these clubs have all these arcane rules and stuff so thats why i'm asking.

[JrRacinFan]

This club is pretty close to no-holds-barred. Anything to do with Socket A goes here. It can be a gallery, overclock database, or just to chat about bridge mods.

[dj_dn]

Im not certain that i can post this hear but if any one needs a Athlon XP-M 1800+ (unlocked multiplier). If ever, send me a PM.

Heres a link 1800 (http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/AMD-Mobile%20Athlon%20XP-M%201800+%20-%20AXMH1800FHQ3C.html)

[KBD]

Sounds good, i'll try to get em posted this weekend :)

[JrRacinFan]

I would take it if I had something to use it on. All my socket a boards are fried from ESD or broke in half from moving recently. ^^^ YAY!

[KBD]

Im not certain that i can post this hear but if any one needs a Athlon XP-M 1800+ (unlocked multiplier). If ever, send me a PM.

Heres a link 1800 (http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/AMD-Mobile%20Athlon%20XP-M%201800+%20-%20AXMH1800FHQ3C.html)


Try the buy/sell/trade forum, may be better luck selling it there?

[JrRacinFan]

Something he wanted me to pass on while talking to him via AIM:

"When I get back, March 7th 2008, I will start to re-keep track of the club and members...Till then plz keep the Socket A club alive!. Thanks, 3991vhtes"

Thanks guys!

[candle_86]

im aware of that

[KBD]

Last week i promised to post some pics of my old Socket A system so today i finally had the time to do it so here they are, though the cable management kinda sucks, i never learned to work well with IDE cables.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080229/DSCN4697.jpg

ATI Radeon X1300 PCI:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080229/DSCN4699.jpg

Full specs: Duron Morgan 1.3 Ghz, XFX 361BS Mach 4, VIA KLE133 Chipset mobo, 1 GB of Kingston Value PC133 SDRAM (not 768 MB as i posted earlier), 20 gig IBM IDE HD, Radeon X1300 PCI vid card, Powmax 300W PSU, Lite-on DVD-R IDE, DVD-ROM IDE (forget which brand), LAN card, Vantec 80mm exhaust fan (84 CFM, 5700 RPM! extremely loud SOB), floppy drive, sound onboard (gave away my old Creative card).

[cdawall]

Last week i promised to post some pics of my old Socket A system so today i finally had the time to do it so here they are, though the cable management kinda sucks, i never learned to work well with IDE cables.

http://img.techpowerup.org/080229/DSCN4697.jpg

ATI Radeon X1300 PCI:

http://img.techpowerup.org/080229/DSCN4699.jpg

Full specs: Duron Morgan 1.3 Ghz, XFX 361BS Mach 4, VIA KLE133 Chipset mobo, 1 GB of Kingston Value PC133 SDRAM (not 768 MB as i posted earlier), 20 gig IBM IDE HD, Radeon X1300 PCI vid card, Powmax 300W PSU, Lite-on DVD-R IDE, DVD-ROM IDE (forget which brand), LAN card, Vantec 80mm exhaust fan (84 CFM, 5700 RPM! extremely loud SOB), floppy drive, sound onboard (gave away my old Creative card).

run 3dm03 on it and get a free 3850 if its the lowest score :roll:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=53961

[KBD]

You think, they probably got people competeting with Pentium 2s out there. Actually what i can do is remove video card and use onboard video, is that allowed?

Edit: not gonna work for me, they are giving out an AGP card, i only got PCI and PCI-e, no AGP.

[cdawall]

You think, they probably got people competeting with Pentium 2s out there. Actually what i can do is remove video card and use onboard video, is that allowed?

Edit: not gonna work for me, they are giving out an AGP card, i only got PCI and PCI-e, no AGP.

see the agp card its worth $250+

[JrRacinFan]

Check out post #2 KBD! Updated!

[KBD]

Thanx JR, next step: will try to overclock it for the fun of it. Are there any special rules for ocing Socket A, do general AMD principles apply?

[cdawall]

they oc very similar to intels

[JrRacinFan]

There is one small difference though cdawall. On the older AMD chips it is possible to unlock the multiplier. Just an FYI in case you didn't know.

Alot of times you will notice you will be FSB limited so upping the vcore and multiplier one notch then upping the fsb is the most successful way of overclocking them.

[KBD]

I found this guide on Anandtech:

http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=1345&p=1

I'm gonna read through it and see what i can do with this. BTW i'm not familiar with intel ocing at all.

[JrRacinFan]

Yeah, pretty good guide. As far as chips go though, you have a pretty decent clocker on your hands.

Look into seeing if you can unlock the L2 cache on your chip. If you can it may make it perform like a barton core.

[KBD]

OK, let's see what happens.

[cdawall]

just got a free sempron 1ghz and KT600 board when i get it to windows i will post some oc pics

[Craigleberry]

sweet, I am waiting for my 3000+ to arrive in the mail and I can build mine. I should be able to get a decent O/C out of it. What temps should it get at idle?? I have an Arctic freezer for it.

[JrRacinFan]

Nice! I am going to make a prediction. 2.7Ghz @ 38-42C idle.

[Craigleberry]

Nice! I am going to make a prediction. 2.7Ghz @ 38-42C idle.

I will let you know shortly I am expecting it to arrive today.... All I need then is a case but I can build it on the desk for now just to see if it works hehe.

[JrRacinFan]

Any luck Craigleberry?

[Craigleberry]

Nope I am still waiting for the postie. I am off to buy a cheap ATX Case will post pics soon as I can.

[3991vhtes]

IMPORTANT UPDATE:

The club founder, Me, is back from a trip at the Ban Motel. :)

[pagalms]

Can i join? My OCing rig is socket A based :toast:

[3991vhtes]

yeah dude...if you own a socket a rig, you're more than welcome to join :D

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

im growing weary of my socket A rig ...

[3991vhtes]

lol, why?

Here's my latest OC on my Abit AN7 with a Mobile Athlon XP 1600+ T-Bred
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=322553

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

it cant manage the workload.:(

[JrRacinFan]

I just wanted to give a big warm welcome back to 3991!

EDIT: And c'mon 3991, that isn't your best!

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

welcome back d00d!

[3991vhtes]

_FBi;720302']it cant manage the workload.:(

that stinks... :(

I just wanted to give a big warm welcome back to 3991!

EDIT: And c'mon 3991, that isn't your best!

thanks, and unfourtinatly (sp?), I no longer have that system... I KNOW i could of gone higher, but i hit a thermal wall. (96C um....) lol.

[pagalms]

Here it is:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5046/rigfm9.jpg

Right now there is Duron 750Mhz in it. 10 seconds fun with pencil and multi is unlocked :D
I have also Duron 1,1Ghz (pretty damaged core, but still running), Athlon 2500+ barton (bad OCer, only 2,15 or 2,2 Ghz max) and dead Athlon 1800+ TB. 2700+ and 1700+ is waiting for me :)

[3991vhtes]

I see you have a Abit NF7, the AN7's big brother!!! :rockout:

[pagalms]

Yep NF7. I've done some mods to it. Latest one - added power/reset buttons on the board :D
I'll post my scores bit later.

[JrRacinFan]

Heya pagalms! See post #2, I added a link to your post.

[pagalms]

I don't even know - i have to laugh or cry about this or just hit myself with banana :banghead:
THIS THING ISN'T OCING AT ALL :banghead:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/ccpuz.php?id=336424
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=336424

Some benching with mr i-am-not-benchable-over-2ghz:

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1958/nuclok6.jpg

I didn't run superpi cuz no fun to run it without tweaks and i can't think today (i'm sick right now and have terrible headache) :(

BTW vdroop mod done today and now board have a nice overvoltage: 1,825 in BIOS -> 1,952 CPU-Z

One of my Durons survived 2,336V vcore today :eek:

[JrRacinFan]

Well if you cant break 2Ghz, might as well throw it under the mobile mod and pull up your fsb and drop your multi. Maybe even up your multi to 11.5 and see if it posts.

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

what do u suggest for a heap file server upgrade ?

[pagalms]

Well if you cant break 2Ghz, might as well throw it under the mobile mod and pull up your fsb and drop your multi. Maybe even up your multi to 11.5 and see if it posts.

Thanks, but mobile mod doesn't work on it. I can reach 2188MHZ, but it's not benchable anymore.

[3991vhtes]

IRA, maybe a Tyan dual socket A mobo, and a pair of Athlon MP's.

[3991vhtes]

Jr, Update post 2!:
http://www.techpowerup.com/gallery/1456.html

[Craigleberry]

I have to wait untill Monday to get my Athlon XP 3000+. I missed the postie on Friday ggrrr.
I hope it is a Barton.

[3991vhtes]

I love the barton cores :D

[JrRacinFan]

That totally bites CBerry. The anticipation thickens!

Post 2 updated!!!

[3991vhtes]

And remember, vote high....please

[JrRacinFan]

You got a 7/10 from me, good cable management.

[3991vhtes]

too bad the location of the ATX power connector, that really messed things up :(

[3991vhtes]

My laptop is Socket A :rockout:

It's a eMachines M5305
I traded my Abit AN7 system for it. I miss the other PC, but I'm lovin the laptop :D

http://img.techpowerup.org/080329/laptop cpuz.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/080329/laptop pcw2k8.jpg

[pagalms]

It means opened multi? :D

[3991vhtes]

yep... When I get another OC socket A board, I'm gonna pull the CPU outta here, and OC it :D

[Craigleberry]

The anticipation of my cpu arriving is killing me so I put the system together this morning.
Here are some pics....
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/Craigleberry/Fortpusocketa1.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/Craigleberry/fortpusocketa2.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/Craigleberry/socketatpu3.jpg
Anyway it is always hard to do good cable managment with IDE ribbons but it will be o.k.
Specs
MOTHERBOARD- DFI LANPARTY NFII ULTRA B - Skt A
RAM- CORSAIR 512MB Memory PC3200 DDR RAM (VS512MB400) DDR400 x2
GPU- ATI 9800 PRO 128mb
CPU- ATHLON XP 3000+ (when it gets here!)
TV TUNER- LEADTEK TV20000 BT878
PSU- Usicase 450W
CASE- Usicase
DVD- ROM
HDD- 2 x 20GB HDD IDE
O/S XP PRO
2 VERY HAPPY 5 and 7 YEAR OLD STEP SONS

[JrRacinFan]

Rig gallery updated in your honor, Craigleberry! BTW: Nice cables!

[eidairaman1]

hey craigle, if you ever use a big cooler such as the TT big typhoon or the Thermalright SI-97 with a 120 MM adapted fan, you may have to remove the aft fan and mount it externally.

[eidairaman1]

how do yall upload images?

[eidairaman1]

check out the images- sorry its not any better but its a Phone cam

[Craigleberry]

Yes Lucky this is just for my kids to play with..I know it would be a tight squeeze fitting a big air cooler.(My main rig has a Thermalright IFX-14) I will just whack some mx-2 on and lap that heatsink O/C the cpu with that ram I should (touch wood) get an o.k result. Nice Motherboard eidairaman1 lol.
Edit... I will need some help with Overclocking this puppy.

[JrRacinFan]

Updated post 2 eidairaman1. C'mon guys post those mad overclocks so I can put them on the leaderboard also!

[eidairaman1]

no major overclocks for me until i get cooling for NB,SB,VRMs, lap the big typhoon Cooler lapped, Bios from NEO over at DFI Club, and possibly a few large intake fans 120. Also Craigle, the Motherboard is the same one you have for your kids system

[Craigleberry]

no major overclocks for me until i get cooling for NB,SB,VRMs, lap the big typhoon Cooler lapped, Bios from NEO over at DFI Club, and possibly a few large intake fans 120. Also Craigle, the Motherboard is the same one you have for your kids system

Yer thats why I said nice motherboard eidairaman1 in my last post.:laugh:

[eidairaman1]

system specs tell it all, maximum overclock i could obtain was 2.36 GHz but with the current bios and cooling thats the limit, with better cooling and a different bios i can probably obtain 2.5GHz at the least, as some have reached 2.7-3.0GHz on this pup, not bad for old technology eh?

[Widjaja]

@Craigleberry.

LOL!
Nice looking old skool PC!
The case doesn't have bad layout.
Better than mine anyway.
The motherboard has some nice colours.
Haven't seen a DVD/CD drive that big in a while.

[Craigleberry]

Nuffin wrong with old socket a CPU's. The first pc I built was a socket a, I fried the chip with too much voltage cracked the sads with it and basicly switched to Intel. But I had some spare stuff lying around and the kids keep on getting on my pc moving files around the place so I thought time to build em one. Plus I will learn more about Networking and filesharing in the process. Its all good. :p
LOL Widjaja hasnt seen a DVD rom that big in a while hehehe I have a draw full of hdd's and old cd roms and the like lots of old skool crapola that I have pulled from systems over the years... My fiance is sick of tripping over it lol.

[eidairaman1]

not to mention lock it down so they cant do anything but run stuff you install, and surf the internet at sites you approve. BTW i wouldnt recommend overclocking more than 5MHz at a time to prevent any failure, also make sure the timings for the ram are Factory spec before doing overclocking heh (easiest way to get core speed up)

[Widjaja]

Socket A aren't that sensitive to overclocking are they?

[eidairaman1]

my motherboard certainly doesnt like being pushed hard all at once, its a gradual build up, but it seems 2.36GHz is the max i can obtain with the current setup here are the results of my 205x11 overclock.

[Craigleberry]

Socket A aren't that sensitive to overclocking are they?

I dont think they do as well as the core 2 duo's. But we will see... just as long as I dont kill this one :p

[Widjaja]

I'm almost certain the AMD CPU's are clocked closer to the limit than C2D.
X2 3800+ will most of the time clock just as high or higher then the higher end X2 CPU's.
This is coming from a 939skt user.

[Craigleberry]

Havnt had a great deal to do with amd's but it would seem that way.

[eidairaman1]

well here is the aquamark 3 score with the CPU at 207x11

Only Problem im having with aquamark 3 is the monitor will blank out with flicker returning to the results screen, im having to do a hard reset (pull power) on the monitor to return it to function- i am unsure what causes that. The Other Thing is with the Overclock the 3D mark Score went down to 3989 Points.

[cdawall]

i have a ECS KT600-a sempron 1ghz and 512mb of ct-5 (does 500mhz 2-3-2-6) sitting next to me waiting for a HDD to run

[3991vhtes]

i have a 10GB one. I think it works, want it? Pay shipping and it's yours.

[cdawall]

i have a 10GB one. I think it works, want it? Pay shipping and it's yours.

i think i can get my 60GB maxtor working again if not i'll PM you about that

[3991vhtes]

Download the maxtor maxblast software, version 5. It's a pain in the ass to work with, but it does wonder's with drives :D

[cdawall]

Download the maxtor maxblast software, version 5. It's a pain in the ass to work with, but it does wonder's with drives :D

it will only work if the drive will boot past the BIOS :p

[3991vhtes]

oh... so true.

[Craigleberry]

well here is the aquamark 3 score with the CPU at 207x11

Only Problem im having with aquamark 3 is the monitor will blank out with flicker returning to the results screen, im having to do a hard reset (pull power) on the monitor to return it to function- i am unsure what causes that. The Other Thing is with the Overclock the 3D mark Score went down to 3989 Points.

Strange are you using LCD or CRT? I will try and beat that score yo but will not get close .... I just read in yer specs you have X1950 pro agp I only have 9800 pro in my socket a rig. I just had a bit of a shock with my main rig... Turned it on this morning and ran cpu-z , core temp and Orthos just to see that it was still stable and after 30 seconds Orthos returned error!!!:eek: I rebooted looked in bios and found the ram divider was set to Auto:wtf: It should be on 2 and I never changed it:wtf:. Seems we have gremlins living at our house:roll: It works fine now but geez I tell ya what I was thinking the worst:cool:

[eidairaman1]

its an Analog LCD from 2001, this problem occurred in past with 3d mark but seems stable, im going to try 210x11 with 1.675 Vcore, see where i can get, also the ram is tweaked 6 3 3 2 1T

Here is my Scores with 210x11 at 1.675 Vcore

[Craigleberry]

Nice scores man... Hey I finished the pc this afternoon. Just figuring out the right drivers and stuff. I took the FSB up 5 MHz and ran cpuz just for a look. Why when I look at the volts is it up and down like a pair of old moles pants? Edit.. Nevermind silly me the volts was still on Auto ajusted to 1.6 Manual for cpu and unsur on the volts for my ram 2.75 I think I know the timings are 2-3-3-6

http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/Craigleberry/amd.jpg

[InnocentCriminal]

Makes me want to OC my old XP-M(s). Hmmm... the good ol' days of 2.6GHz.

:drool:

[Craigleberry]

Its a bit of fun hehe I am getting addicted I think

[JrRacinFan]

Hey Craigleberry, when your done tweaking, post your highest clock for us. So I can add you to our leaderboard.

Also, speaking of which, nice clock as is for now!

[3991vhtes]

+1 Nice OC!!

Go higher :)

[Craigleberry]

OMG I have issues with my motherboard it wont post after adjusting Ram divider. All 4 Led's are on no beep. shit. I might have to do a looooong cmos clear??? Any ideas?
I have tried clearing the cmos and about to try long clear. Fwew 15 minute clear worked.

[pagalms]

Yesterday's work (It's the same 2500+) :)
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/5792/338190ta8.png
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=338190

Right now i'm playing with SPD to shave off some time in spi :)

[Craigleberry]

Nice work man mine is running @2.28 GHz ATM. Still getting used to all of the different settings in the bios. 1.65 volts hey how come cpu-z screenie has no volts?

[InnocentCriminal]

AARRRGH!

I'm so going to have to see how far I can push my XP-Ms before I give the machine away.

[pagalms]

Madness :D

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/8474/madnessam0.jpg

No tweaks at all - just bit edited SPD, tight timings and OC.
I think i can get sub 50 @ 2Ghz with some tweaks :)

Nice work man mine is running @2.28 GHz ATM. Still getting used to all of the different settings in the bios. 1.65 volts hey how come cpu-z screenie has no volts?

I took screenie from validation. There was 1,9 or even 2v. It's possible to hit 2,2Ghz with lower voltage, but yesterday was my high voltage day :D
BTW board has a nice overvoltage after vdroop mod - 1,775 in bios -> 1,9 real/cpu-z.

[Widjaja]

OMG I have issues with my motherboard it wont post after adjusting Ram divider. All 4 Led's are on no beep. shit. I might have to do a looooong cmos clear??? Any ideas?
I have tried clearing the cmos and about to try long clear. Fwew 15 minute clear worked.

LOL!
Maybe I can OC it a bit more this way. . . . . .no post.:roll:

I've had weird things like that happen to my old rig though.

[Craigleberry]

@widjaja I didnt want to admit it but I may as well own up...... When it wouldnt POST after adjusting the RAM I Went to rest CMOS with the jumper.... , and of course me being used to my GIGABYTE Mobo (which if you make a mistake or go to far it will automaticly revert to stock and POST) I left the jumper set to clear and that is why it wouldnt POST silly me over reacted and started to panic after some serious googling I realized I had the jumper round the wrong way.... rofl

AARRRGH!

I'm so going to have to see how far I can push my XP-Ms before I give the machine away.

Any results yet?
Here are my latest
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd145/Craigleberry/cpuzamd.jpg

[InnocentCriminal]

Any results yet?

Unfortunately I don't have any free time to take my old man's rig apart as he's using it and I don't have any time. :(

I will however, once I've sourced all my components so I can upgrade my current set up, will start on pushing the little XP-M. I have to do a L12 Wire-trick so that I can get the 400MHz FSB stable on the FN45 motherboard that I'll be using.

If only I still had my friends DDR500 to try out... :(

[eidairaman1]

i forgot to tell you but the ram divider doesnt work too well, i think youd need a 3rd party bios to enable that function fully.

[Craigleberry]

What is the go with the SPD Settings my ram is capable of ddr500 but just do not know how to set the thing up properly

[InnocentCriminal]

I would have thought it'd have said on the modules the tightest timings they can have at DDR500. If they don't use CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php), that should tell you.

[3991vhtes]

Craigleberry, I know you want to send that barton my way.

lol.

[cdawall]

Craigleberry, I know you want to send that barton my way.

lol.

oh hush ur getting a sempy :p

[Craigleberry]

Craigleberry, I know you want to send that barton my way.

lol.

You would probly know what to do with it more than I would. lol.

[cdawall]

You would probly know what to do with it more than I would. lol.

he would probably kill it :p

[eidairaman1]

Craigleberry, the one thing i suggest majorly upgrading before overclocking is the Chipset Cooling, My NB temps are what i think is limiting the CPU, because at startup it states the CPU is at 40 Degrees, well i have a IR Temperature Gun here, shot the CPU and the NB, well its the NB that is at 40 degrees and the CPU is at say 36 Degrees, this is under non ambient temperature conditions.

[Cuzza]

Keep up the good work lads, just thought I'd let you know I was out running in London yesterday, came across Athlon Road! Gotta get a pic of that sign for yas.

[pagalms]

Keep up the good work lads, just thought I'd let you know I was out running in London yesterday, came across Athlon Road! Gotta get a pic of that sign for yas.
In 1280x1024 please :laugh:

Btw i made a memory cooler for socket A OC'ing rig today :)

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6399/dsc00033ny5.jpg

[eidairaman1]

needs to be shrouded for maximum effectiveness