Bad things happening here

[trt740]

:mad:My cpu won't prime with default voltage and ram at default settings. My usb ports also lose power, my mouse power goes out and my lit keyboard shuts down. Is this my cpu dieing or is my motherboard bad. I tested my ram it is fine. My cpu temps are super low so it's not heat? :shadedshu

[DaMulta]

motherboard(Most likly) or PSU

[Paulieg]

Tom, try testing with OCCT, and see if it completes the test..may be prime.

[trt740]

motherboard(Most likly) or PSU

how would you tell.

[trt740]

Tom, try testing with OCCT, and see if it completes the test..may be prime.

Occt not sure what that is.

[Kursah]

Well, from the wide spread issues, I would either say it's a power supply issue or power regulation issue on the MB itself...inspect the caps on the board, maybe take a peak inside your PSU...

How stable are your voltages right now? Can you load long enough to watch them?
Is it possible that your energy saving settings have been changed or set to default for USB power and such?

Sorry to hear it man...

[Paulieg]

Here's a link:
http://www.ocbase.com/perestroika_en/index.php?Download

[Paulieg]

Before you freak, try some other tests....

[ntdouglas]

:mad:My cpu won't prime with default voltage and ram at default settings. My usb ports also lose power, my mouse power goes out and my lit keyboard shuts down. Is this my cpu dieing or is my motherboard bad. I tested my ram it is fine. My cpu temps are super low so it's not heat? :shadedshu


Is everything at stock settings when testing? Otherwise you could be pushing too hard. Try backing down.

[trt740]

Okay I unplugged a hardrive thinking this would lower the load on my system to check if it is power related loosing my internet keyboard and mouse randomly and increasing cpu voltage doesn't help and now it is happening even without prime. prime makes it worse. trying to type fast AHHHHH!!!!!! this is at stock everything

[trt740]

Okay I unplugged a hardrive thinking this would lower the load on my system to check if it is power related loosing my internet keyboard and mouse randomly and increasing cpu voltage doesn't help and now it is happening even without prime. prime makes it worse. trying to type fast AHHHHH!!!!!! this is at stock everything
Forgot to mention rails look okay during prime. trying pauls test be back in a sec

[Paulieg]

even without prime..damn. Sounds like power. Own a power supply tester?

[Paulieg]

Forgot to mention rails look okay during prime. trying pauls test be back in a sec

K

[erocker]

I think you're mobo is going. By your sig it also looks like it's done it's job!

[trt740]

K

just did the same thing with occt. Must be either the voltage regulator on the motherboard or the powersupply. Also one know ogf a good ulitliy to weatch your voltage. I'm leaning towards motherboard since I unplugged a hardrive, unless it is just plain bad.

[erocker]

Time for a X38. :D and FTW!:rockout:

[trt740]

Na might be power because during prime internet also starts to go out.

[erocker]

The way you OC you should get something with a little more "umph"!

[Paulieg]

You need a power supply tester or multimeter...

[trt740]

You need a power supply tester or multimeter...

What a pain in the ass lol. It seems better since i unplugged a hardrive but it is still doing it

[DaMulta]

how would you tell.

replace one or the other

[trt740]

Never used a voltage meter what should it draw. It appears to go from 12.300v to 11.980v on the 12 volt rails is this bad or what.

[Paulieg]

no, not bad at all...here's a good guide for testing. I do it the lazy way though, through the molex...

http://www.driverheaven.net/guides/testingPSU/

[Paulieg]

It looks like the psu is ok...

[trt740]

ya think it's the motherboard then

[Paulieg]

It has to be..not all that suprising though, you push that thing pretty hard...looks like an RMA to me. Looks like you can afford it though, after what you got for that 8800GT on ebay. Bet you're glad you didn't sell it to me..:roll: Amazes me what people will pay...

[trt740]

It has to be..not all that suprising though, you push that thing pretty hard...looks like an RMA to me. Looks like you can afford it though, after what you got for that 8800GT on ebay. Bet you're glad you didn't sell it to me..:roll: Amazes me what people will pay...

what about cpu?

[trt740]

It has to be..not all that suprising though, you push that thing pretty hard...looks like an RMA to me. Looks like you can afford it though, after what you got for that 8800GT on ebay. Bet you're glad you didn't sell it to me..:roll: Amazes me what people will pay...

still with that cooler they payed more than I did. i'm stressing my video card With ati tools , running prime on my cpu and ati virus scan on my other hardrive and now it is fine strange. I was getting bio's errors before. might be this board. I was also getting blue screens.

[Paulieg]

I know, it's crazy. Ignorant people..anyway, do you have another chip to test?

[trt740]

I know, it's crazy. Ignorant people..anyway, do you have another chip to test?

no i don't but now it is working scared to overclock it now. maybe I will rma it and this board. My overcloking days may come to a end this has pissed me off.

[Paulieg]

Hmm, I would test the psu a few times over the next couple of day, just to see if it's dying a slow death.

[trt740]

Hmm, I would test the psu a few times over the next couple of day, just to see if it's dying a slow death.

I wonder, If I shouldn't have kept the ultra video card sure seemed like a waste of money.

[trt740]

Hmm, I would test the psu a few times over the next couple of day, just to see if it's dying a slow death.

Here is an example doesn't show the virus scan but my systems is taxed to the max here


http://img.techpowerup.org/071216/here is a test.jpg

[Paulieg]

I had an Antec psu a couple of years ago that did a similar thing, it worked great one day, then caused all kinds of problems the next. It went on like that for a week before it totally died.

[Paulieg]

Damn it's late...going to bed. I hate running into computer problems late at night. i end up staying up most of the night

[trt740]

Damn it's late...going to bed. I hate running into computer problems late at night. i end up staying up most of the night

I hope it was more a bios issue I'm at 3.0ghz now and it's prime stable so far.

[W1zzard]

run your memory at the lowest divider with the slowest timings and the highest voltage you feel comfortable. try switching memory slots, try one module, get another kit for testing from a friend

[trt740]

run your memory at the lowest divider with the slowest timings and the highest voltage you feel comfortable. try switching memory slots, try one module, get another kit for testing from a friend

Hey Wiz the memory seems fine I tested it with three memory programs. I did have trouble with it and bios F9 but went back to F8 no errors. This crap with my usb ports losing power and my system locking up scared me.

[Wile E]

no i don't but now it is working scared to overclock it now. maybe I will rma it and this board. My overcloking days may come to a end this has pissed me off.

Bah I say!!! It's only a setback, don't let it get to you. Just look at how much hardware I've killed, and I haven't given up. :laugh:

[trt740]

Bah I say!!! It's only a setback, don't let it get to you. Just look at how much hardware I've killed, and I haven't given up. :laugh:

well that 500.00 2900 xt I killed hurt bad.

[Wile E]

well that 500.00 2900 xt I killed hurt bad.Yeah, forgot about that, but I'm still in the hole further than you :roll:

It happens man. If it's the mobo, you can likely RMA(unless you Vmodded it or something), and only lose some time and a few dollars for shipping. If it's the psu, it's not like it's your fault. Just look at it as an opportunity to upgrade. Unless, of course, it's still under warranty. Then it, also, only costs you a little of your time, and a few dollars.

It's a bummer either way, but it's not that bad.

[desadarius2002]

I actually had a similar problem. Usb dying, computer rebooting. Couldn't figure it out. One day i switched cases for a new build. The other cases had a different power supply. After that all was fine. Changed Power supply in my case just to be safe. Didn't want that crap happening on my new system.

Good luck.

[DOM]

Never used a voltage meter what should it draw. It appears to go from 12.300v to 11.980v on the 12 volt rails is this bad or what.
to me thats a big drop mine doesnt even drop below 12.20v

12.30v idle and 12.25v ORTHOS Small FFTs - stress CPU

12.20v with GPU load with atitool scan for artifacts and same with CPU

so you might want to get a cheap PSU just for back up anyways

[trt740]

to me thats a big drop mine doesnt even drop below 12.20v

12.30v idle and 12.25v ORTHOS Small FFTs - stress CPU

12.20v with GPU load with atitool scan for artifacts and same with CPU

so you might want to get a cheap PSU just for back up anyways

thats with my gpu stressed to the ma,x a quad core stressed to the max, and a virus scan runinng on two hardrives. If I just ran it on my cpu and video card it won't go lower than 12.030v. I Also has have a quad you have a dual core. So you guys know Wiz was right it was a bad stick of ram found it after lengthy testing.

[DOM]

well I know you have a Q but I also have 8 X 120MM blue led fans, 4 X 120 reg fans, 1 X pump, 2 X HD, 1 X dvd/cd-burner, 1 X ocz ram cooler, Cpu @ 3.6GHz 1.55v, MEM 2.2v 1125Mhz

But I also had a Stick go bad on me to :ohwell: its been RMA'ed but I didnt have all that what happened to you

But are you running everything at stock volts and tim , settings ? At first my mem would get errors with both stick and not with one at a time but friday I it started again and boom right off the bat one stick was all errors in memtest and one wasnt

but I dont know about that drop on your PSU but I should find out next yr. jan or feb going to get a Q :D and im sure my card uses about the same power as yours from wiz reviews on Power Consumption

[trt740]

thats with my gpu stressed to the ma,x a quad core stressed to the max, and a virus scan runinng on two hardrives. If I just ran it on my cpu and video card it won't go lower than 12.030v. I Also has have a quad you have a dual core. So you guys know Wiz was right it was a bad stick of ram found it after lengthy testing.

I also have six 120mm fans 3 with leds , a 250mm side fan ,two hardrives two dvd burner and a external usb dvd burner, and if you look my video card in that test is not at stock.

[trt740]

It has to be..not all that suprising though, you push that thing pretty hard...looks like an RMA to me. Looks like you can afford it though, after what you got for that 8800GT on ebay. Bet you're glad you didn't sell it to me..:roll: Amazes me what people will pay...

He backed out and won't pay LOL

[Paulieg]

Damn, what did he say?? He can't do that. Make him pay your freakin' listing fees..Well, if you wanted to part with that cooler, and sell the card with the stock cooler, I'd be interested in the cooler.

[yogurt_21]

So you guys know Wiz was right it was a bad stick of ram found it after lengthy testing.

funny how often that is lol. so hopefully you'll be back in the game soon then.

[DOM]

I also have six 120mm fans 3 with leds , a 250mm side fan ,two hardrives two dvd burner and a external usb dvd burner, and if you look my video card in that test is not at stock.
lol but your card cant go up to 1.6v on the core I tryed it again and with 1.6v and it droped to 12.14v

but did you run the mem one at a time at stock volts and tim ? what are you using to test them ?

[trt740]

lol but your card cant go up to 1.6v on the core I tryed it again and with 1.6v and it droped to 12.14v

but did you run the mem one at a time at stock volts and tim ? what are you using to test them ?

The guy said he found it cheaper retail and that he wouldn't buy it or pay my fees. The ram I tested with windows mem test and mem86 and both said this stick was bad once I removed it my system is fine.So back to crucial it goes I sent the usbc code with the rebate they better not give me any shit on packaging. I may sell the 8800 gts 512mb I'm not all that impressed. It depends on which sells. I should get me fees back from the non payer thru ebay.

[trt740]

Damn, what did he say?? He can't do that. Make him pay your freakin' listing fees..Well, if you wanted to part with that cooler, and sell the card with the stock cooler, I'd be interested in the cooler.

on this topic the cooler is what makes it worth atleast three hundred, plus the crysis game i'm including, and it bios flashed . The 8800 gt with the bios flash almost match my 8800 gts 512mb step for step. In a game you cannot tell at all.

[DOM]

The guy said he found it cheaper retail and that he wouldn't buy it or pay my fees. The ram I tested with windows mem test and mem86 and both said this stick was bad once I removed it my system is fine.So back to crucial it goes I sent the usbc code with the rebate they better not give me any shit on packaging. I may sell the 8800 gts 512mb I'm not all that impressed. It depends on which sells. I should get me fees back from the non payer thru ebay.crucial, doesnt care about the usb I called them and did a advanced replacement they put the retail price on my credit card and 3days they get here and I'll sent it back in the box they send me then I get my credit back on my card when they get them

but they guy should pay something as you could of sold it when they where sold out everywhere and made some cash off of it

[trt740]

crucial, doesnt care about the usb I called them and did a advanced replacement they put the retail price on my credit card and 3days they get here and I'll sent it back in the box they send me then I get my credit back on my card when they get them

but they guy should pay something as you could of sold it when they where sold out everywhere and made some cash off of it

Who knows might keep the gt and return the gts or sell it.

[trt740]

Wow crucial is unreal they are sending new ram and my own ram is back stable over ddr1100 and going up

[DOM]

Wow crucial is unreal they are sending new ram and my own ram is back stable over ddr1100 and going up:confused: its working again or are you talking about the other pair lol

I should get my new kit tomorrow :D

[trt740]

:confused: its working again or are you talking about the other pair lol

I should get my new kit tomorrow :D



No I had four gig 2 are head back to crucial. The other two are now hammering without the error riddled pair with them.

[DOM]

No I had four gig 2 are head back to crucial. The other two are now hammering without the error riddled pair with them.

so you did that cross ship/advanced replacement then, they good with rma right ? not like other places ASUS :rolleyes: im just running 1GB :( kind of slow

[theonetruewill]

Sorry to go off topic- but does the 8800GTS cooler look good in the flesh?

[trt740]

Sorry to go off topic- but does the 8800GTS cooler look good in the flesh?

I think it is equal to the old 8800 gts cooler it is near silent at say 60 percent slightly audible at 70 percent and it looks cool on other cooler but the evga cooler on this look stupid. They should have used the traditional Black evga cooler. Also when turned to 70 percent it is as good as a dual orb cooler or very near it.

[Matt18]

The guy said he found it cheaper retail and that he wouldn't buy it or pay my fees. The ram I tested with windows mem test and mem86 and both said this stick was bad once I removed it my system is fine.So back to crucial it goes I sent the usbc code with the rebate they better not give me any shit on packaging. I may sell the 8800 gts 512mb I'm not all that impressed. It depends on which sells. I should get me fees back from the non payer thru ebay.

File an unpaid item dispute and you will get your final value fees back. Unfortunately there is no way to get the listing fee's back. But the final value fee's are more expensive, especially on a high dollar item.

[trt740]

File an unpaid item dispute and you will get your final value fees back. Unfortunately there is no way to get the listing fee's back. But the final value fee's are more expensive, especially on a high dollar item.

I'm going to do that

[DaMulta]

i really need to RMA mine, I even have a ticket...Note to self remember to go to post office

[trt740]

please read them and respond here my lan still will not work. Two stick of ram are now dead. i'm about to throw my ram away and motherboard, this is really starting to piss me off.I think all this trouble is from the fxxxked up bios gigabyte just put out. I think it some how killed my lan and damaged my ram.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=582961#post582961

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=47786

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=47116

[theonetruewill]

please read them and respond here my lan still will not work. Two stick of ram are now dead. i'm about to throw my ram away and motherboard, this is really starting to piss me off.I think all this trouble is from the fxxxked up bios gigabyte just put out. I think it some how killed my lan and damaged my ram.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=582961#post582961

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=47786

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=47116

TRT- I had to flash back to an older BIOS on my Gigabyte mobo too (different model) this last one stops my system running stable even at stock. I had no idea what the hell was going on- really worried me for a coupe of days! Fortunately nothing permanent seems to have happened.

[trt740]

TRT- I had to flash back to an older BIOS on my Gigabyte mobo too (different model) this last one stops my system running stable even at stock. I had no idea what the hell was going on- really worried me for a coupe of days! Fortunately nothing permanent seems to have happened.

Well it seems to have first caused ram errors then killed two stick, and somehow it has either confused windows into not finding my lan or killed it aswell. I went back to F7 and all is well except for two dead sticks of ram and a dead lan. The lan has power and the modem has a solid green connection but it just won't work . I tried a new cable because the bios has a cable test for the ethernet / lan and it's not responding at all. WTF. This is my last Gigabyte. I may RMA this board and when it returns sell it. It is a full featured board that overclocks like hell but man all these problems. I even tried to reflashing the bios, upgrading the chipset drivers, then reactivate the ethernet adapter ,without any difference. Then I tried reinstalling a fresh copy of windows on my second hardrive, unplugged the first hardrive, reset the bios and boot with the fresh copy of windows,still no ethernet found. I'm using a USB connection now and ordered a 7 dollar ethernet adapter. Still this is B.S because Gigabyte has no advanced rma so if I return it I will be without a computer for 3 weeks.

[theonetruewill]

Well it seems to have first caused ram errors then killed two stick, and somehow it has either confused windows into not finding my lan or kiled it aswell. i went back to F7 and all is well except for two dead sticks of ram and a dead lan. The lan has power and the modem has a solid green connection but it just won't work . i tried a new cable because the bios has a cable test for the ethernet / lan and it's not responding at all. WTF. This is my last Gigabyte. I may RMA this board and when it returns sell it. It is a full featured board that overclocks like hell but man all these problems.

You going to go the Asus route- or perhaps DFI?

[trt740]

You going to go the Asus route- or perhaps DFI?

Asus I think but maybe EVGA I really want this board but it is pissing me off.

[theonetruewill]

Asus I think but maybe EVGA I really want this board but it is pissing me off.

Go Asus(look at the oc records- many-a-time on an Asus)- I have begun to hate my Gigabyte board too. It's not that they are not good- they are, it's more that they have little quirks that begin to grate on you and wear you down.

[trog100]

it could be any bloody thing.. dieing cpu.. memory failing...mobo failing.. hardrives failing causing coruption.. i dont think its the psu thow.. but it coud be..

u being the man on the spot are the dude to find out.. stop.. think.. then act..

trog

[trt740]

it could be any bloody thing.. dieing cpu.. memory failing...mobo failing.. hardrives failing causing coruption.. i dont think its the psu thow.. but it coud be..

u being the man on the spot are the dude to find out.. stop.. think.. then act..

trog

Trog I have been read the thread

[trt740]

If you have a gigabyte motherboard don't use bio's F9

[technicks]

Trt is ocing with a 8x multi better. Or i that just i your case
I always thought to go with the highest possible multi.

[trog100]

Trog I have been read the thread


sorry dude somehow i kinda missed a chunk.. my apologies.. :)

trog

[trt740]

Trt is ocing with a 8x multi better. Or i that just i your case
I always thought to go with the highest possible multi.

overclocking is not the problem read a bit of the thread and the links.

[trt740]

sorry dude somehow i kinda missed a chunk.. my apologies.. :)

trog

no problem trog I'm up and running no problems other than two dead sticks of ram and a ethernet adapter thats not working.

[technicks]

A dude that sucks.:( I had it with my last Asus M2N SLI 590 board.
One of the ethernet adapters died. Luckily i had two on that board.:cool:

[Paulieg]

If you have a gigabyte motherboard don't use bio's F9

I've been using the f9 bios with no problem. I've been fortunate though, I've never had trouble with any bios updates on any of my boards. Closest thing was an evga 680i bios which lowered my overclock max by 200mhz.

[trt740]

I've been using the f9 bios with no problem. I've been fortunate though, I've never had trouble with any bios updates on any of my boards. Closest thing was an evga 680i bios which lowered my overclock max by 200mhz.

run mem test and watch the errors

[Solaris17]

no i don't but now it is working scared to overclock it now. maybe I will rma it and this board. My overcloking days may come to a end this has pissed me off.


hmm scared to OC? so your stock now? if its fine then....without the OC then possibly your NB is going because it cant take the FSB maybe its dying or weak because of heat or voltage...and seeing the other things the NB controlls and the widespread failure you had but its fine at stock theirs a pretty good possability your NB is on its last legs try seeing if you can cool it better or somthing.

[trt740]

hmm scared to OC? so your stock now? if its fine then....without the OC then possibly your NB is going because it cant take the FSB maybe its dying or weak because of heat or voltage...and seeing the other things the NB controlls and the widespread failure you had but its fine at stock theirs a pretty good possability your NB is on its last legs try seeing if you can cool it better or somthing.

no the clocks in my signature are correct now, my ethernet does not work and two ram sticks are doa but it oc fine and everything else functions correctly. It was f9 bios and my ram causing issuses. My lan appears doa gigabyte wants to RMA but that takes 3 weeks with no computer, just bought a ethernet adapter for 7.00

[trt740]

Now my sound card won't identify my front and rear channel as seperate channels no matter what I set them at they both end up as set to front speakers and sound only comes out one set. this is crazy to pay this much money and now have my own sound card and ethernet adapters installed in PCI slots because the onboard ones are malfunctioning. Whats also crazy is when I called gigabyte they said my bios chip needs replaced because in my bios a whole line referring to my Lan is missing. It is my bios chip thats the problem it is confused and cannot locate my Ethernet. It is acting like it is not there. So I have to find a good time to RMA (3weeks wait on a new board) so I have decided to order a new motherboard. Then sell the RMAed board when it comes. The following boards i'm considering
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127030 I also really really like this board aswell.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136039 another big ass northbridge cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128080

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136038 I really like this board got great reviews but the giant northbridge cooler won't let my ultama clear it unless the fan blows upward. plus no mosfit coolers.


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