Water Cooling?

[AphexDreamer]

Just wanted to know if it would be worth geting two of these and use one for my CPU and one for my HD2900Pro.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103017

Anyone know if they are good or not, the price seems preaty good, but Im no expert and this would be my first atempt at water cooling. Excepting advice of all kinds :toast:

[wtf8269]

IMO that is too small of a system for a CPU, perhaps a GPU though. From the research I've done about watercooling most people say to either go all the way or don't do it at all. They say that you'll regret getting some kit, and you'll end up upgrading it to the point where it's a completely custom system eventually anyway.

[AphexDreamer]

IMO that is too small of a system for a CPU, perhaps a GPU though. From the research I've done about watercooling most people say to either go all the way or don't do it at all. They say that you'll regret getting some kit, and you'll end up upgrading it to the point where it's a completely custom system eventually anyway.

Wait I'm sorry, what are you trying to say exactly:confused:

[AphexDreamer]

Anyone know of a site that sells decent cheap cooling kits?

[wtf8269]

Basically the radiator/piping diameter/block would be sufficient for a graphics card. However I think it would be insufficient for a CPU; I think a nice heatsink could work just as good as that kit.

And what most experienced people will tell you is that when you are considering purchasing a water cooling system, you should either go full on custom and good components, or don't buy a system at all. Because the people that have purchased a kit, end up upgrading components of it continuously until eventually they end up with a complete custom system anyway. Except that they spent more money because they started off with a pre-made kit.

[AphexDreamer]

Basically the radiator/piping diameter/block would be sufficient for a graphics card. However I think it would be insufficient for a CPU; I think a nice heatsink could work just as good as that kit.

And what most experienced people will tell you is that when you are considering purchasing a water cooling system, you should either go full on custom and good components, or don't buy a system at all. Because the people that have purchased a kit, end up upgrading components of it continuously until eventually they end up with a complete custom system anyway. Except that they spent more money because they started off with a pre-made kit.

Oh ok, do you think you can recommend me a site where I can hand pick the parts neccery to go water cooled. Does that mean I have to buy the tubing, block, radiator, liquide, and all that good stuff?

Or is their just a good kit I can buy, Ima total noob when it comes to this stuff, oh and thanks for helping me out.:)

[NeoCrisis]

Water cooling is expensive, if you plan to go that rout go all the way with a custom set up.
But you dont really need cool your 5200+ with water. The temps on that should be in the low to mid 30s on a good heat sink (thats what my old 5200+ was at).

If you really want to go water but skeptic about building it yourself CoolIt systems are very nice and you can never go wrong with Swiftech

[Firedomain]

i dont have watercooling, but anywhere i go all i hear is that swiftech rocks!
im planning a custom WC setup, but it will cost me $500-$600 (AUS)
thats for everything though. for the CPU & GPU (or 2)

will 1day buy it & put up some pics.

good luck with ur setup.

[largon]

http://www.petrastechshop.com/

Swiftech makes some good 'n' cheap kits.
IMO cheap watercooling (like the one linked in OP) is hardly worth it, difference to good aircooling HSF is not worth the extra expense and hassle.

[AphexDreamer]

Water cooling is expensive, if you plan to go that rout go all the way with a custom set up.
But you dont really need cool your 5200+ with water. The temps on that should be in the low to mid 30s on a good heat sink (thats what my old 5200+ was at).

If you really want to go water but skeptic about building it yourself CoolIt systems are very nice and you can never go wrong with Swiftech

Yes, but you seem to be forgeting that I like to Overclock:). I want to take my 5200+ to at least 3Ghz but that means increase the volts to the max, thus requireing an effecitve cooling method.:)

[DaMulta]

Had one, gave it away because it sucked.

[AphexDreamer]

Had one, gave it away because it sucked.

Awww man, really. What was sucky about it.:confused:

I need to find an effective way to cool my GPU and prefebly my CPU, ethier a lot of fans or some sort of cheap water cooling set up would be nice.

[AphexDreamer]

Another question, that should fit an HD2900 right, just want to make sure:)

[AphexDreamer]

One last question, can I connect the tubes from this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103017 to the VGA Block which is specifcly designed for the HD2900 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103044 or if not that block then how about this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835127034 ?:confused:

[Firedomain]

wouldn't know. you'd have to do some more research on the diameters. but i wouldn't think thatd b much of a good setup coz its gonna have shit diameters & crappy components. i've never had W/C but i learnt a while ago if im gonna get it go all the way custom. if i was gonna go cheap i'd get a 3rd party HSF for the GPU & CPU, personally for a cheap kit wouldn't go water (dont get me wrong, it may/may not do better than air), but the job it would do compared to my custom setup would make the custom definitely worth the wait & money.... the other thing i looked at is future-proofing the kit as much as i can. buying components that are compatible with as much as it can be (swiftech makes some good shit & has a lot of compatibility) that way when i upgrade my GPU or CPU im not gonna have 2 blow even more money on another waterblock!
when i eventually get my setup im overclocking this thing as much as i possibly can!

[snuif09]

maybe a thermaltake bigwater??

[Firedomain]

thermaltakes kits are absolute rubbish..... its a huge waste of money compared to performance.
no offence to you snuif09 but they really are crappy.....
some of there other components & cases are quit nice. but for WC there crap.
pretty much anywhere you research will say dont get em.

[sneekypeet]

I say get a DD or swiftec or the like , a nice pump, res and rad. As largon says go to petras and get one of the "kits".

Alot of these kits are top end parts already put in a group rate package to save some money.....http://www.petrastechshop.com/wacoki.html

[AphexDreamer]

Thanks guys, decided to put the money towards a new CPU and just made the purchase, thansk again.:)

[sneekypeet]

Thanks guys, decided to put the money towards a new CPU and just made the purchase, thansk again.:)

No hints as to what you bought?

[AphexDreamer]

No hints as to what you bought?

I bought an AMD Athlon X2 6400+ Black.:o

[sneekypeet]

Nice pick...altho I bet that leads soon for the desire to accomplish this water cooling idea....lol Good luck on one helluva chip!!!!!

[AphexDreamer]

Nice pick...altho I bet that leads soon for the desire to accomplish this water cooling idea....lol Good luck on one helluva chip!!!!!

Thanks man, wan't to sure what to get. Hate regrets.:)

OH and one day, when the day feels right, I'll make the move to water. Someday....
:toast:

[sneekypeet]

dont we all, but i always find there are less regrets when you go for the best. It when we settle that we leave ourselves open for dissapointment. Hence why ppl were thrying to get you on the right track with you H2O setup.

[AphexDreamer]

dont we all, but i always find there are less regrets when you go for the best. It when we settle that we leave ourselves open for dissapointment. Hence why ppl were thrying to get you on the right track with you H2O setup.

Great point, your as wise as the monkey in that picture of yours.:laugh:

[sneekypeet]

Lmfao

[snuif09]

omg i want that one too a unlocked multiplier kicks ass

[ZenZimZaliben]

I am all water cooled and I agree with the "all the way, or nothing" I started out way back on a Corsair water cooling kit that was just for the CPU on 1/4 tubing. SHortly after I wanted to watercool the GPU, then the Northbrige. The pump, radiator, and 1/4 in tube had to go. Today nothing of that kit remains and my water system is 100% custom built..The cpu blocks, radiator, and fan were garbage compared to what you can get in a custom build. Its the difference between buying a Dell or Building your own system. You get to choose the parts you want.

Yes water cooling is expensive to start, but I have been using the same system for over 4 years now. The only thing I have ever had to upgrade is the CPU/GPU blocks. Which cost about the same as a high end heatsink/fan. Basically Im saying the water setup and a good one, will pay for itself over time. Not to mention you just can't push your system as far on air.

The only thing you will ever need to do is replace tubes that get cloudy, and maybe purge your system once a year or so. When a new chip comes out that you want you may have to upgrade the water block, but a swiftech for one sells upgraded brackets to place on existing blocks.

Watercooling is the only way to go. Especially if you like to Overclock.

www.frozencpu.com has a wide array of water cooling components. I strongly recommend swiftech blocks and dangerden radiators, dont bother getting a single core radiator, get a 3 core 2 pass copper radiator. 3/8 tubing is the best IMO...1/2inch is to big especially if your cooling more then one thing it can really have a impact on your case layout, and 1/4 inch is way to small except to cool just 1 component.

[RottnJP]

I guess I'm not *that* much of a speed junkie- The quality/cost of the best current air coolers these days is just amazing, even compared to just a few years ago- Tuniq Tower, TR120 Extreme, Scythe Ninja... Just unreal what you can do for $50-$70 bucks. The money I saved vs. liquid bought me the CPU! ;-)

[Exavier]

Not trying to hijack; but for those of you who think custom is the only way to go - what do you think of the Swiftech H20-220 Apex kit? I'm planning to get one myself, but I was going to get some DangerDen blocks to replace the Apogee GT and allow for G92 8800GTS cooling when they've released their new block for it.

[philbrown23]

watercooling is worth it. I don't care what anyone else says. it's just the way to go. But you have to be willing to spend at least 250 to do it righ, otherwise stick to air.

[philbrown23]

Not trying to hijack; but for those of you who think custom is the only way to go - what do you think of the Swiftech H20-220 Apex kit? I'm planning to get one myself, but I was going to get some DangerDen blocks to replace the Apogee GT and allow for G92 8800GTS cooling when they've released their new block for it.

I use the apogee gt, and if you want to do better than it I'd get the d-tech fusion, by far the best block out ther, but the apogee gt is really nice.

[Firedomain]

isn't the GT there newest block? if it is then its got excellent performance.
swiftechs kits are fantastic. although as we all say custom is better than a kit.

my custom that i wanna build is gonna cost me around $500 but once thats paid for it will b staying on my computer untill computers make a massive move forward & 4 some weird reason i wont b able 2 put it on.... (like... i dunno.... shrinking them to the size of my mouse should do it! lol)

[Wile E]

Not trying to hijack; but for those of you who think custom is the only way to go - what do you think of the Swiftech H20-220 Apex kit? I'm planning to get one myself, but I was going to get some DangerDen blocks to replace the Apogee GT and allow for G92 8800GTS cooling when they've released their new block for it.

The Apex 220 is a good kit, and the Apogee GT blocks perform very well. But honestly, the Apex kit is a little pricey. You can probably piece together a 100% custom kit on Dangerden or Petra's Tech shop for around that amount, maybe a little more.

[Exavier]

by UK standards, it's not that expensive at £150
and why would I want a custom which would cost more when I can get this and it's very good?

[Wile E]

by UK standards, it's not that expensive at £150
and why would I want a custom which would cost more when I can get this and it's very good?
Custom would be even better. Really the only thing that could use improvement in the Apex 220 kit is the rad. That's not to say it's bad, just that there's much better out there.

[intel igent]

Anyone know of a site that sells decent cheap cooling kits?

If you do a search of my posts you will find the links to all of your answers. Sorry I can't be of more help @ the moment but I'm posting from my cell as my pc is still being revamped.should be done soon though.kits are a waste of time and money. I've been trying to get a pc so I can read and post better but no luck yet

[philbrown23]

Oh ok, do you think you can recommend me a site where I can hand pick the parts neccery to go water cooled. Does that mean I have to buy the tubing, block, radiator, liquide, and all that good stuff?

Or is their just a good kit I can buy, Ima total noob when it comes to this stuff, oh and thanks for helping me out.:)

www.petrastechshop.com great place awesome custom kits, and sadly I bought that aquagate as my first wc attempt and was kicking my own @$$ for months.

[Natrid]

Petra does have great kits. Replacing the Apogee GT with a Danger Den block is a big mistake. The Apogee GT preforms very well on dual and single core (although the Storm preforms even better on single cores), but falters with quad cores. The (arguably) best block for a quad is the D-Tek Fuzion, but it's still unclear whether the EK Supreme is better than it, there still haven't been enough reviews and comparisons. The Fuzion also is very good on dual cores (I have one, I should know).

The Apex 220 is a good beginner kit, and results in a clean looking rig (pump is integrated into CPU block and res is coupled with the rad) and it's preformance isn't too shabby (about the same as a MCR-220. MCP-355, Apogee GT and a Micro-Res, all from Swiftech) and it's very easy to add a GPU (just get some 3/8in. tubing and a GPU block).