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CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-19-2007, 12:47 AM
I just bought some of this stuff from Petra's Tech Shop (http://www.petrastechshop.com/icdi7cathco.html) about an hour ago. Im hoping that it will do my B3 Q6600 some justice and bring down the temps.

When I get it, I will post up idle temps with AS5 along with load temps using Prime95 (the multi threaded one).

Then I will post up the Diamond idle temps and load temps using Prime95 as well. Then, I will post up the idle temps and load temps with a 2 hr cure.

Im expecting to do this around Christmas time. If not soon after. Depends on UPS and when PTS ships it.

Im really looking forward to working with this.

I made this thread because I did not see any mention of it anywhere else on the forums. Please correct me if I am wrong.

EDIT: PTS has already shipped it! That was super fast. I ordered about 515PM my time and I got a trackign number in my email at 524PM. Very nice.

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-19-2007, 01:37 AM
A little bit of background for those who dont know about the diamond thermal paste.

Anybody who is a true computer hardware enthusiast these days knows that keeping your CPU from overheating while pushing it to its limits is one of the most important concerns. Thermal compounds like Arctic Silver are the front line of that defense, conducting the heat directly from the CPU to the heat sink. Without the compound, small imperfections in the surface of the heat sink can render the heat sink almost useless and lesser compounds can actually insulate your processor. Thermal compounds that are available for purchase have remained unchanged for some time. The most popular type of thermal compound has silver suspended in silicone grease. Research has been done by overclockers.com demonstrating a far superior type of thermal compound using diamond. Silver has a respectable thermal conductivity at: 429W/m K. Diamond on the other hand has a thermal conductivity of 900-2320 W/m K. So worst case scenario we double performance, and best case is roughly a 5x multiplier.

Another nice advantage with diamond is that it is not electrically conductive. Silver based compounds will conduct electricity which makes a sloppy application of the compound a risk for shorting out your expensive hardware.

It appears that several people have come up with this idea independently, but we didn’t want to make that fact stop us from sharing our two cents on the matter as well. There are mumbling's about commercially available compounds being in the works but we thought, “Why wait when we can have our candy now?” We are going to show you how to make your own diamond compound, and provide you with some of our own results for the improvements it provides in actual cooling performance. We will be comparing Arctic Silver to our home brewed batch of diamond compound.

Source (http://recommendedspec.com/blogs/jared-bouck/archive/2007/12/01/diy-diamond-thermal-compound.aspx)

Paulieg
12-19-2007, 01:52 AM
Has some potential...take a look at these reviews:

http://www.cluboverclocker.com/reviews/thermal_paste/paste_roundup2/index.asp

http://icrontic.com/forum/showthread.php?t=64731

ntdouglas
12-19-2007, 02:29 AM
I just bought some of this stuff from Petra's Tech Shop (http://www.petrastechshop.com/icdi7cathco.html) about an hour ago. Im hoping that it will do my B3 Q6600 some justice and bring down the temps.

When I get it, I will post up idle temps with AS5 along with load temps using Prime95 (the multi threaded one).

Then I will post up the Diamond idle temps and load temps using Prime95 as well. Then, I will post up the idle temps and load temps with a 2 hr cure.

Im expecting to do this around Christmas time. If not soon after. Depends on UPS and when PTS ships it.

Im really looking forward to working with this.

I made this thread because I did not see any mention of it anywhere else on the forums. Please correct me if I am wrong.

EDIT: PTS has already shipped it! That was super fast. I ordered about 515PM my time and I got a trackign number in my email at 524PM. Very nice.

I've got a B3 also. I idle at 37-39 and load at 56-58. Whats your temps? And what vcore are you at?

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-19-2007, 02:50 AM
I've got a B3 also. I idle at 37-39 and load at 56-58. Whats your temps? And what vcore are you at?

Believe it or not, my idle temps on a stock cooler and an after market cooler are 50-55C. Load is just shy of 65C. Temps are teh same overclocked as well.

Vcore is 1.35 atm. if I go higher, my temps get into the 100C range.

ntdouglas
12-19-2007, 03:10 AM
Believe it or not, my idle temps on a stock cooler and an after market cooler are 50-55C. Load is just shy of 65C. Temps are teh same overclocked as well.

Vcore is 1.35 atm. if I go higher, my temps get into the 100C range.

Damn thats hot dude. So your at 3g on a stock cooler?:eek: Try lowering vcore. I'm at 1.3v in bios and vdroop's to 1.256.

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-19-2007, 03:14 AM
Damn thats hot dude. So your at 3g on a stock cooler?:eek: Try lowering vcore. I'm at 1.3v in bios and vdroop's to 1.256.

Nay. Im at 3GHz with a TT V1 cooler. I also have the fan going full boat.

kwchang007
12-19-2007, 03:31 AM
Well if diamond does have better heat transfer that's great! I think the next generation should do even better as they learn how to crush it up betterish and make it into more of a liquid before it settles (from what I could tell from the first review Paulieg posted that's probably what would hold it back is that it's too solid)

ntdouglas
12-19-2007, 04:04 AM
Nay. Im at 3GHz with a TT V1 cooler. I also have the fan going full boat.


I wonder why your running so hot? Have you tried lowering vcore?

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-19-2007, 04:19 AM
I wonder why your running so hot? Have you tried lowering vcore?

Im not sure. Ill reboot and go into bios right now and lower it down a bit and run prime and see where it stands with that.

ntdouglas
12-19-2007, 04:57 AM
I think you can lower it a little, which would really help with temps.;)

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-19-2007, 05:15 AM
I think you can lower it a little, which would really help with temps.;)

Right now, I am at 1.31 or thereabouts for Vcore and my temps are still 44*C. idle. If I go lower than that, my OC is unstable and Prime fails in less than 5 seconds.

ntdouglas
12-19-2007, 05:21 AM
Right now, I am at 1.31 or thereabouts for Vcore and my temps are still 44*C. idle. If I go lower than that, my OC is unstable and Prime fails in less than 5 seconds.

Ok, you have done well. Your down about 6-10c, right? How important is 3g to you? I ask because like I've said I'm at 2.9g at 1.256 vcore. You should be able to drop into the high 30's like me. :D

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-19-2007, 05:32 AM
Ok, you have done well. Your down about 6-10c, right? How important is 3g to you? I ask because like I've said I'm at 2.9g at 1.256 vcore. You should be able to drop into the high 30's like me. :D
Im one of those that like to squeeze as much out of my rig as I can and this B3 is holding me back. Either that or the board is. Yet others claim the they OC with it just fine. *shrugs*

Random Murderer
12-19-2007, 05:33 AM
Im one of those that like to squeeze as much out of my rig as I can and this B3 is holding me back. Either that or the board is. Yet others claim the they OC with it just fine. *shrugs*

the board is. the 680i just doesn't oc quads well. sorry.

ntdouglas
12-19-2007, 05:43 AM
Im one of those that like to squeeze as much out of my rig as I can and this B3 is holding me back. Either that or the board is. Yet others claim the they OC with it just fine. *shrugs*

Its just a claim dude. Is it your q6600 or the ram?

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-19-2007, 05:44 AM
the board is. the 680i just doesn't oc quads well. sorry.

So ive been told. Yet I think its someone on here (cant recall who it is) said that its a load and that he has his eVGA 680i board paired with a quad core and has his overclocked to 3.6GHz stable.

Random Murderer
12-19-2007, 05:45 AM
So ive been told. Yet I think its someone on here (cant recall who it is) said that its a load and that he has his eVGA 680i board paired with a quad core and has his overclocked to 3.6GHz stable.

could you find that?

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-19-2007, 05:45 AM
Its just a claim dude. Is it your q6600 or the ram?

RAM is DDR2 800 but its known to overclock pretty decently. I have it at 1000Mhz right now.

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-19-2007, 05:46 AM
could you find that?

Ill work on it but I cant guarantee it.

EDIT: Found it!

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showpost.php?p=514479&postcount=30

Random Murderer
12-19-2007, 05:47 AM
RAM is DDR2 800 but its known to overclock pretty decently. I have it at 1000Mhz right now.

what color are the heatspreaders?

ntdouglas
12-19-2007, 05:49 AM
So ive been told. Yet I think its someone on here (cant recall who it is) said that its a load and that he has his eVGA 680i board paired with a quad core and has his overclocked to 3.6GHz stable.

Its just a claim dude.:D

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-19-2007, 06:00 AM
what color are the heatspreaders?

Black. These (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231065) to be precise.

Its just a claim dude.:D

I know it. :)

Prime failed btw at 1.31ish vcore after 20 minutes.

ntdouglas
12-19-2007, 06:33 PM
Black. These (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231065) to be precise.



I know it. :)

Prime failed btw at 1.31ish vcore after 20 minutes.

Is that 1.31 vcore in bios? Or is that after vdroop?

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-19-2007, 11:13 PM
Is that 1.31 vcore in bios? Or is that after vdroop?
Bios.

ntdouglas
12-20-2007, 12:40 AM
Bios.

Thats interesting. I wonder why yours needs more.

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-20-2007, 12:43 AM
Thats interesting. I wonder why yours needs more.

Not sure. All i can figure is I got one that doesnt like to overclock well. Which is just my luck anyway. :banghead:

ntdouglas
12-20-2007, 12:47 AM
Not sure. All i can figure is I got one that doesnt like to overclock well. Which is just my luck anyway. :banghead:

Have you tried raising fsb termination voltage? Also, are you getting a 1000mhz running all 4 sticks?

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-20-2007, 12:58 AM
Have you tried raising fsb termination voltage? Also, are you getting a 1000mhz running all 4 sticks?

I have tried bumping the voltage on every voltage option I have in the BIOS and it doesnt make a difference.

Ill run CPUz here shortly and post up what it says.

Actually, try clicking the link in my sig for the CPUz verification thing. That may have what you are looking for.

ntdouglas
12-20-2007, 03:14 AM
I have tried bumping the voltage on every voltage option I have in the BIOS and it doesnt make a difference.

Ill run CPUz here shortly and post up what it says.

Actually, try clicking the link in my sig for the CPUz verification thing. That may have what you are looking for.


Yeah, thats impressive. DD2 1000 with 4x1g sticks.:toast:

ntdouglas
12-20-2007, 06:02 AM
Check this out.

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-20-2007, 03:36 PM
Check this out.

Thats hard to see.

PyroX1040
12-20-2007, 04:11 PM
Thats hard to see.

I agree...

ntdouglas
12-20-2007, 05:37 PM
Thats hard to see.

I shrunk it too much. I was showing I was stable at 3g @ 1.256 vcore. Ram is at ddr2 1116 with 2.1 vdimm. Maybe its our boards. Maybe yours vdroop's more.

trog100
12-20-2007, 07:02 PM
my new E6750 runs with a shown temp reading of 39 C.. a shown v core of 1.6 volts.. at 3.8 gig.. under load..

with all fans slowed down and near silence i see 22 C at idle..

all with an artic feezer pro with the gloop that comes stuck to the bottom of the cooler..

sounds way too low.. far lower than i expected but my tried and trusted "feel around the hot bits" method kinda makes me thing it might be true..

true

ps.. my ram is rather toasty thow.. he he

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-20-2007, 11:46 PM
I just got the IC Diamond stuff today. So once I get done with my final, Ill put it on my rig and post results.

ntdouglas
12-21-2007, 12:03 AM
I just got the IC Diamond stuff today. So once I get done with my final, Ill put it on my rig and post results.

I will be curious to see results.:D

PyroX1040
12-21-2007, 12:22 AM
I will be curious to see results.:D

Ditto ^.^

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-21-2007, 04:15 AM
The results are IN!!!!

They are quite impressive so far.

Here are my idle temps using AS5

Idle
Load
47*C
67-70*C

With IC Diamond 7 carat:

Idle
Load
39*C
55-57*C

Random Murderer
12-21-2007, 04:16 AM
The results are IN!!!!

They are quite impressive so far.

Here are my idle temps using AS5

Idle
Load
47*C
67-70*C

With IC Diamond 7 carat:

Idle
Load
39*C
55-57*C

wow.

ntdouglas
12-21-2007, 04:53 AM
The results are IN!!!!

They are quite impressive so far.

Here are my idle temps using AS5

Idle
Load
47*C
67-70*C

With IC Diamond 7 carat:

Idle
Load
39*C
55-57*C

Awesome crash. What vcore are you running stable. I know 1.31 didn't work for you.:toast:

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-21-2007, 04:54 AM
1.35

PyroX1040
12-21-2007, 04:54 AM
For just changing the Thermal Compound that's amazing atleast a idle difference of 8+ Degree's C and over 10 while loading O.O I gotta order me some of this stuff!!!

ntdouglas
12-21-2007, 04:56 AM
1.35

Where did you get it from?

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-21-2007, 04:56 AM
I am very very happy with the results. Wonder if 25 carat would make an impact? To bad they dont have that out yet.

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-21-2007, 04:57 AM
For just changing the Thermal Compound that's amazing atleast a idle difference of 8+ Degree's C and over 10 while loading O.O I gotta order me some of this stuff!!!

Order away:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/icdi7cathco.html

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-21-2007, 04:58 AM
Where did you get it from?

Bios. Thats what it is set at. Everest Ultimate is also reading a 1.3v range.

PyroX1040
12-21-2007, 04:58 AM
proboly would but only like 2-3C Idle and 5-6C Load

PyroX1040
12-21-2007, 04:59 AM
I just ordered 5 of these bad boys for all my CPU's in my house ^.^!!!

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-21-2007, 05:04 AM
I just ordered 5 of these bad boys for all my CPU's in my house ^.^!!!
Nice!

How much did all that come to with shipping?

ntdouglas
12-21-2007, 05:13 AM
Nice!

How much did all that come to with shipping?

Who cares.I'm getting some.:p

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-21-2007, 06:17 AM
Who cares.I'm getting some.:p

It'll cost me $35 to get 5 more. :(

Need a new video card first, then motherboard, then CPU, then im set. :)

trog100
12-23-2007, 03:33 PM
all this magic potion stuff sounds good.. what puzzles me thow is why i am seeing figures around 20 C idle.. 40 C load.. on my e6750 at 3.8 gig running 1.6 vcore..

all with the standard gloop that comes stuck to the bottom of my artic pro cooler..

its easy to say my temps are wrong.. but its equally easy to say everybodies temps are wrong..

i have used three different motherboards amd and intel over the past month.. all have show lower than expected temps with the stuff stuck to the bottom of the artic cooler..

i have been lazy and broken all the "rules" and simply just bunged the cooler on with what it came with.. but the results have been a pleasant surprise.. odd..

trog

CrAsHnBuRnXp
12-23-2007, 11:03 PM
Check this out.

http://www.overclockers.com/home.asp

Look at the news for December 22.

OnBoard
01-04-2008, 06:18 PM
I remember reading about ebay-diamond-powder-silicon-paste-user-mixes a while back, didn't take long to someone make it commercially :) Performance being SO much better than AS5, I wouldn't be surprised if we see AD5 paste this year too (Arctic Diamond 5) :p

Can't wait for this stuff to get here, wouldn't mind doing a test with one tube for CPU/GPU. (price just might get Europe extra)

CrAsHnBuRnXp
01-18-2008, 04:32 AM
If anyone managed to pick some of this stuff up, can you please tell me what the precuationary measures says on the slip of paper that comes with it? I was just working on a PC that has this stuff on it (I was swapping HSF's) and I started to become very light headed and almost passed out.

Please post what the slip that came with the ICD7 says.

Thanks.