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Can it overclock an Intel 955XE XBK or XCS

Jewfromdahood

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I'm getting a new system soon and it has an intel 955XCS i believe (it's an HP xw4300). but i plan on changing it over to the 955XBK so i get more room between the two PCI-E X16 looking slots, and a built in optical sound out. The specs of the system are Intel Pentium 4 670 3.8 Ghz 800Mhz FSB, ATI FireGL 3100 (changing with a Visiontek Xtasy ATI Radeon X850XTPE), 2X512MB DDR2 667 ECC Sticks (may add another 2X512MB DDR2 667 ECC sticks later), 1X160GB SATA II 3GB/s Main HD, adding 2X250GB SATA II 3GB/s Slave HD's. i'm not braging about the specs i just need to know will it be compatible with it? and if not when do you think i can expect it to be able to overclock intel motherboards?
 
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intel and ocing on intel boards isnt possible

the specs seams to be compatible
 

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well then i have no choice but to go to intels own overclocking utility, Intel Desktop Control Center. It can control Fans, Memory timings, monitors CPU load and temperatures as well as speed, it can also boost the FSB by as much as +/- 30%. Which means i can get a 692.9Mhz FSB with a 533 FSB, 1040Mhz with an 800Mhz Bus, and 1385.8Mhz with a 1066Mhz Bus. So my Pentium 4 670 will actually be better than a 3.73Ghz EE only by a mere 44Mhz (trust me i ran the numbers on my Algebraic Calculator.) plus it has CPU Performance and stress tests. and other things i may have forgot about.
 

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find out which clock generator it uses
 

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how can i find that out? Sorry but I'm new to CPU Overclocking or any other overclocking other than Video Card Over Clocks. My new computer is the first computer i am going to overclock anything other than the video card. As well as doing some major modifications, the only thing i keepign thats stock is the Video Card as a spare, some fans, the PSU for a backup for the new PC power & cooling 510 SLI, the processor, the Hard drive, the CD-RW/DVD Drive
 

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so how do i find what clock generator it has?
 

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ok as soon as i get my new computer i will post the Clock generator for my board. But i found out HP makes their own motherboards so i t will be the HP Intel 955XE board not the intel 955Xe XBK or XCS
 

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Am thinking of getting Intel's D955XCS, were you able to find a clock gen for it ?
Or should I go in for a better Mobo ? :wtf:
Also which CPU's would you recommend on this Mobo ? :rolleyes:
 

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yes shoot for better

the XCS aint worth it. go for the XBK, it's well worth the money, digital sound in up to 7.1 in coaxial or optical (optical is better though i use it) ao you can hook a home theater surround system up, as well as able to use dual graphics cards, but if i were you, hold out for the Intel 975XE mobo if possible, it's an even better dual-graphics card solution, but if you must, go with the D955XBK it's crossfire compatible no matter what they tell you, digital sound. But with the intel Mobo i would have to say don't use the Systool it screws up the windows driver for the mobo so you can't use intel desktop control center. Right now i'm waiting for the intel 975XE with dual PCI-E X16 (X8 electrical), with digital optical sound, and as soon as they come out Intel 940EE Pentium 4 Extreme Edition 3.2Ghz w/ 2X2MB Cache's and they say it will be at 65nm so it well be able to OC a hell of a lot faster. I use this mobo with my ATI Radeon X1800XT and it is sweet, going to go with an X1800 Crossifre Edition 512MB to pair up with this. it's going to be sweet. XCS is good, but shoot for XBK or wait for the 975XE version, if i get updates of it's release i'll post
 

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Ummm I've an ATi Radeon 9600PRO 256MB, and also Creative SoundBlaster 5.1 Live! card :eek: .. So I dont think I would need somethin with Graphics/Sound onboard. I need something which I can upgrade without any much expense.. Overclocking is my second option :rolleyes:
The machine will be used mainly for gaming and usual browsing on the net(I download a lot :p). Dual Core + HT sounds striking to me .. but I saw somewhere that Gamers dont need a Dual Core machine. My budget is around $555 thats around 25k Rs. here in India :eek: and I just need a CPU , a Motherboard which suits the CPU and a Cabinet to fit the Motherboard :). I have the rest of the shit.

Oh I did buy 2x512 DDR's a few weeks back. They are @ 400Mhz. I wouldn mind in buying new RAM either :D
 

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also OC'ing Mobo's is possible, you just crank the FSB up, only 10% max with single cored chips up to 30% with dual cored, plus the multipliers are unlocked on dual-cored up to 20X. So i did the math,
Single Cored Core/FSB speeds:
Stock: 15X= 3.0Ghz/800Mhz, 16X= 3.2Ghz/800Mhz, 17X= 3.4Ghz/800Mhz, 18X= 3.6Ghz/800Mhz, 19X= 3.8Ghz/800Mhz, 20X= 4Ghz/800Mhz
OC'ed: 15X= 3.3Ghz/880Mhz, 16X= 3.52Ghz/880Mhz, 17X= 3.74Ghz/880Mhz, 18X= 3.96Ghz/880Mhz, 19X= 4.18Ghz/880Mhz 20X= 4.4Ghz/880Mhz
Dual Cored Core/FSB speeds:
Stock: same as above
OC'ed: 15X= 3.9Ghz/1040Mhz, 16X= 4.16Ghz/1040Mhz, 17X= 4.42/1040Mhz, 18X= 4.68Ghz/1040Mhz, 19X= 4.94Ghz/ 1040Mhz, 20X= 5.2Ghz/1040Mhz
But by my calculations using an Artic Freezer 7 Pro CPU cooler due to heat limits the fastest possible on dual cored (this is an estimate) would be a 16X, 17X, or 18X multiplier on the core at a 30% OC, otherwise the CPU cooler couldn't handle it, due to it only being able to dissipate 200watts of heat, but using a stock cooler these numbers would be near impossible to reach. But as you can see usign a dual-cored CPU on the dual-cored motherboards would actually be faster, using a P4 840EE or the soon to be P4940EE you could probably (definanately with a 940EE) out run an Intel P4EE 3.74Ghz or any other one, but if they happen to go with a 65nm process of the 940EE heat limitations may not be a factor and possibly even be able to OC that baby to 5.2Ghz or 4.94Ghz. But high CPU core frequencies are not necessary if you only play games, that would only really require stock CPU speeds and faster bus and memory speeds, keep in mind OC'ing base FSB bus speeds will increase all other speeds as well, so PCI, PCI-E, Memory, and maybe even other speeds and bandwidth may be increased. I've estimated a MAX OC of PCI bandwidth from stock 133MB/s to 172.9MB/s or even 228.918MB/s, PCI-EX1 from stock 2.5GB/s uni-directional 5GB/s bi-directional up to 3.5503GB/s uni-directional, 7.1006GB/s bi-directional, PCI-EX4: multiply X4's by 4, X8's multiply X4's by 2, X16 multiply X8's by 2
but to save you time PCI-EX8= Stock 20GB/s uni, 40GB/s bi, OC 28.4024GB/s uni, 56.8048GB/s bi
PCI-EX16= Stock 40GB/s uni, 80GB/s bi, OC 56.8048GB/s uni, 113.6096GB/s bi,
note these are dual-cored OC'ed mobo's, single cored chips only have a max of 10% oc unlike dual-cored's 30%
bi-directional items are things such as internet cards i believe, however graphics cards i believe are uni-directional, Why does bandwidth matter? because things like high-end graphics cards need lots of it. my X1800XT for example has 48GB/s of bandwidth so to use it's full potential i increased bandwidth, since i only have one GPU in my system. however if you have two GPU's such as a crossfire system, i highly recommend a dual-cored chip, wait until the 9xx series is released along with the 975XE mobo. because i highly recommend a dual-cored chip so for instance if both of my X1800 cards in crossfire making both X8, instead of having only 20Gb/s of stock bandwidth each can have 28.4024GB/s of bandwidth in each. hopefully intel will release a new mobo after that with dual PCI-EX16 slots. so each card has it's full potential used.
 

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i dont think you will get that 670 over 1000 bus speed maybe with watercooling also dont use an intel mobo go with abit or asustek(for an intel chipset) they have a ton of easy to use ocing bios opitions and os programs and remember that intel relaseing a new lime of moble and desktop cpu (new skockets)
 

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while browsing through Google I found that 955XBK will in the future provide ATI CrossFire after a Bios Upgrade. Is it true ?
I just found out D955XBKLKR is available for $378 here in India. 975X is not yet available in India. So umm I guess I'll go with 955XBK. Now which will be a good CPU for this Motherboard :) .. a lil more help please :D also I think I'll have to buy new RAM too .. so please suggest a good RAM too, around 1GB. If any of you guys are in India please lemme know about the prices you got for the stuff I m lookin for. Thanks
 

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hitu said:
while browsing through Google I found that 955XBK will in the future provide ATI CrossFire after a Bios Upgrade. Is it true ?
I just found out D955XBKLKR is available for $378 here in India. 975X is not yet available in India. So umm I guess I'll go with 955XBK. Now which will be a good CPU for this Motherboard :) .. a lil more help please :D also I think I'll have to buy new RAM too .. so please suggest a good RAM too, around 1GB. If any of you guys are in India please lemme know about the prices you got for the stuff I m lookin for. Thanks

there is a recommened memery list that will come with the motherboard that memory is sappost to work best but i never used it but i only was able to get 33 mhz oc on mine but ocz consir geli patriot samsumg r good place to start your sreach

a 6xx series processor would be a good choice the daul core intels suck the 5xx series lack some fetures
 

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no single cored processors, namely every other series so far than the bxx and 9xx series can't get higher than a 10% OC meaning the highest you can get is 880Mhz only the dual-cored procs are enabled to go as high as a 30% OC maybe you should READ! didn't mean to be well mean and if i offended you sorry.
Intel 9xx series is available soon i checked my distributor Ingram Micro they have the 910, 920 and 930 all in stock and cataloged and for me only $340 because it's distributors price however i need to check retail pricing, i'm shooting for a 940 preferably with hyper-threading, although i believe, but i need to do some more researching before i am certain, that Intel has unlocked, yes i said it, unlocked the multipliers up to 20X, i know the 840EE has it unlocked not sure about the rest.
Also here is something you should learn when it comes to memory it's either Corsair or Kingston trust me i've tried every DDR2 brand there is for my dads clients those 2 are the most stable. plus i've noticed due to Corsair's one piece heatsink it enabled higher frequencies on the ram. I'm very fond of getting 2 TWINX1024-5400UL but i gues i'll have to settle for TWINX1024-5400C4 hey with any luck i can get the same latencies of 3-3-2-8 instead of 4-4-4-12
 

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my bad i meant 8xx and 9xx instead of bxx
 
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