i need help to decide

[The_Real_DeaL31]

i'm thinking about upgrading to intel 775 socket, whats the best processor and chipset that overclocks the best, and what chipset is better intel or nvidia, i'm really not concerned about the price thanks!!!

[panchoman]

the intel x38 is currently the best lga775 chipset out there. nvidia's 680i sli cannot work with quads correctly (however nvidia is working on a fix) so therefore as of now, intel chipsets are a lot better then nvidia's, however this might change with the upcoming releases of the x48 chipset for intel (but this is very similiar to the x38 chipset, im not sure exactly of the difference but its not a huge one), and the 780i chipset for nvidia (theres a lot of speculation about this chip, for example, it has been speculated that the southbridge is a 680i chip and it also an amd CFX chip in order to enable crossfire X on the chipset). for now, i would recommend the gigabyte x38 dq6 here:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128068
a flaw with this board's bios, as alerted to me by namslas90, is that the bios cannot work very well with 4 gigs of ram(especcially with a 64bit os such as vista 64bit) , however gigabyte is fixing that up. so i would definently recommend this board . however if the board is too expensive, the gigabyte p35 ds3 series or the gigabyte p35 dq6 will do a very nice job as well

as for the cpu, i would say a q6600 g0(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128068) stepping is one of the best choices out there, however the best cpu would be: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128068
of ocurse though i'd wait a few weeks for the new intel penryn 45nm chips to come out.

[The Haunted]

For budget/overclock id recommend a e6750 and a p35 motherboard like the dfi blood iron or similar. The e6750 overclock nicely and is a lot cheeper than the e6850.

[cdawall]

for on the cheap a dfi blood iron P35 board and a Q6600 G0 stepping

[kwchang007]

If price isn't an issue, go all out. Nice x38 with a yorkfield, watercooling, good ddr2 ram (ddr3 is faster, but not really worth it imo), dual 3870s....that'll be a nice system. For a more reasonable budget, q6600, p35, crucial ddr2 800mhz ram, 8800 gt or gts (g90) or hd3870.

[The_Real_DeaL31]

i've owned a few old intels system in the past, but recently i've stock with amd, i have 3 computers 754, 939, and am2, so its a learning curve understanding intel, btw thats a nice board, also i heard dual cores are better considering quad are usless to this point in time, i was looking at this, http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=014822&cid=CPU.84
or the quad core, which is better..
http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=012505&cid=CPU.84

[panchoman]

both are EXCELLENT chips, its up to you. many people will argue that quads are better, and many will argue that duals are better. its up to you, as you're going to be paying for and using your system.

[The_Real_DeaL31]

im staying far away from ati thanks hehe, i've had nothing but bad luck with ati cards

[cdawall]

what do you plan on doing with your rig thats the main thing when you look at getting the dual or the quad

[The_Real_DeaL31]

ok if your saying ethier or, then whats the best mobo for sli, and o.c's well

[panchoman]

what do you plan on doing with your rig thats the main thing when you look at getting the dual or the quad

exactly, someone wanted to run things like photoshop, power director, cpu intensive things like them, you're better off with the quad, however with older games which aren't optimized for multi-core systems (however many are) then you're better off sticking with dual. remember, you cannot just multiply the number of cores by the speed to get the effective power of a cpu but a quad will give me more power then a dual.

[The_Real_DeaL31]

i wanna pick up 2 8800gt's, and have lots of head room to overclock the cpu and ram etc

[panchoman]

ok if your saying ethier or, then whats the best mobo for sli, and o.c's well

for sli, you'd want to grab an evga 680i a1 or t1 motherboard. the a1's are on backorder so you'll most likely end up with a t1. and you're getting off with the e6850 cpu on the 680i chipset.

[The_Real_DeaL31]

im not to sure of the company, but the price looks good what do u guys think
http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=016876&cid=999.243.390

[The_Real_DeaL31]

i cant seem to find a x38 mobo that supports nvidia sli, it seems most of them are all crossfire, thats lame, so if i wanna go sli, i should be looking at nivdia chipset, btw is doesnt make any sense, we all know nvidia cards are faster along with intel cpu's, then why would they make intel boards that support crossfire, when intel and nvidia is the way to go

[cdawall]

intels X38 "supports" sli through hacked drivers


680i or 780i board would be your best/only bet for sli

[Hawk1]

im not to sure of the company, but the price looks good what do u guys think
http://www.canadacomputers.com/main.php?do=ShowProduct&cmd=pd&pid=016876&cid=999.243.390

Are you picking up locally or will have it shipped?

[kwchang007]

Yeah you'll have to go 680i or 780i for sli. If you do go that way, get a dual as pancho said, nvidia can't really overclock Intel quads that well unless you get an extreme edition with a unlocked multi....well I think anyways.

[panchoman]

intels X38 "supports" sli through hacked drivers


680i or 780i board would be your best/only bet for sli

not fully, the hacked drivers only work with geforce 6k & 7k 8k cores (for ex. 8800gt) wont work with the hacked drives. high end video cards tend to do better with intel cpus because they are more powerful then amd chipsets. amd's phenom cpu's bottleneck the performance of the 2900xt and the like..

[The_Real_DeaL31]

thats friggin gay, i guess im best off sticking x38 chipset, running a single nvidia card, btw u guys havent told me what do u think of the 8800gt palit, is it any good!!!

[panchoman]

damulta will know more about palit, but you shouldn't have a problem, theres not that much of a difference between video card companies.

[Hawk1]

thats friggin gay, i guess im best off sticking x38 chipset, running a single nvidia card, btw u guys havent told me what do u think of the 8800gt palit, is it any good!!!

Seems like a decent brand (I'm sure DaMulta can attest).

Heres (http://www.tddirect.ca/products/129219/NE%2F880TSXT352/Palit%20Multimedia%20Inc./) a better deal on one with free shipping, if you go with it.

Also, for an offbrand, This (http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27328&promoid=1087) is a great deal (but only good till tomorrow.)

[The_Real_DeaL31]

just my opinion intel should go back to the drawing board, and make intel mobo's, with intel chipsets that support's sli

[The_Real_DeaL31]

i heard the 8800gt palit cooler's are one of the best there, for overclocking and produce less noise, compared to other 8800gt's, i think im gonna buy it, i'll post back and let u all know, whats scores i get etc.....

[panchoman]

just my opinion intel should go back to the drawing board, and make intel mobo's, with intel chipsets that support's sli

well intel would have to obtain rights to implement nvidia's sli into the chipsets and then spend time developing it correctly. nvidia has to work with intel to do this and intel has to pay nvidia good money for sli. so thats why currently its CF only, however i believe that intel has agreed with nvidia about obtianing rights to use sli or something..

[The Haunted]

Here a good price for a 8800gt http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=27328&promoid=1087

[B1gg3stN00b]

As many have said, P35 chipset and E6750 is a great pair.

[The_Real_DeaL31]

the Galaxy 8800gt looks ok, downside nothing is cooling the memory, the palit version is alot better, with higher clocks on both the core and mem, also it has a better cooler, that cools down the memory

[The_Real_DeaL31]

the Galaxy has 2x 6 pin connectors, whats the deal with that